2024 Triumph Street Triple RS | SC Project S1 | Exhaust Video

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
  • Welp, still have some things to tweak, but the exhaust is on and the bike feels and sound incredible. Couple things to note, This is NOT an exact fit. You will need 2017-2022 Headers to make this setup work! (i used 2021 headers specifically) Hope you enjoy!
    0:00 Installation
    4:43 First Start
    6:17 Riding Clips
    2024 Triumph Street Triple Parts:
    Sc Project S1 Exhaust: tinyurl.com/38p3e8ua
    2021 Street Triple Headers: Check Ebay :/
    Motodynamic Tail Light: tinyurl.com/29tuwse2
    Motodynamic Tail Tidy: tinyurl.com/43uyy6v5
    Quadlock Stem Mount: tinyurl.com/7pn6h5x5 (Grab a Vibration Damper!)
    Fenrir Mirrors: tinyurl.com/mp8te8xd
    Brogue Bar Ends: tinyurl.com/yc3bu7ve
    Frame Sliders: tinyurl.com/236e2et3
    Rear Bobbins: tinyurl.com/4mhk6bpp
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  • @MCvS97
    @MCvS97 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is sick! Congrats! Was scouring the internet for the first person to put a pipe on the '24 STRS.
    You've a new subscriber

  • @ZabDevin
    @ZabDevin ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Congrats! You’re probably the first in the world to do this mod on the new STR 765.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maybe!

    • @jacobleppard2039
      @jacobleppard2039 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You’ve done it as logically as possible too. Im so pleased someone’s gone for it and it’s worked so well for you. I have the same colour scheme as yours. Love the “2024” as it’s being called. Had the previous gen also and they’ve done great things with this version. My only concern is getting by track regs here in uk. Big ask, but do you know roughly the dB output?

    • @pcarts232
      @pcarts232 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s definitely better quality than stock but it doesn’t sound much better tbh , i wouldn’t do it myself but it looks amazing

    • @littlewiener5580
      @littlewiener5580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesnt sound much better ? Really ? I am sure you have not heard it other than from video . In reality it does sound way better than stock and its loud !!

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pcarts232 gotta hear it in person, the internet is deceiving :)

  • @arfb8
    @arfb8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOL just finished replying to our last chat and bang here’s it is, looks & sounds great, good job being the first person to have a go at the conversion well worth it .

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha thanks!

  • @MotorcyclerideCyprus
    @MotorcyclerideCyprus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your honesty in your videos has made me Subscribe! Please continue to tell it how it is!

  • @MrBinkz
    @MrBinkz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds wicked mate, you have a new subscriber. Keep up the good work and videos

  • @saleemanwar31
    @saleemanwar31 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is probably one of the best exhausts, I know because I have the same exhaust on my 2020 Street Triple R. High quality and sounds incredibly good 👍.

  • @dynamoz5191
    @dynamoz5191 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This refresh looks so good

  • @pines2000
    @pines2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got a 2024 rs yesterday. This is definitely what im going for. I dont want a full system thats basically a straight pipe. Sounds great but isnt too much! Thank you

  • @jackaitken5306
    @jackaitken5306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picking mine up next week can't wait to get a new pipe on it

  • @daveo9844
    @daveo9844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job. Sounds awesome 😎🍻

  • @Warren71x
    @Warren71x ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great sound - love the popping on decel. I did this to a 2010 and loved the sound but was a bit self conscious re the noise level given I leave for work so early - wish it were a few db lower. But the deep sound was perfection. If i go down this route will likely do the headers too - love the look of titanium pipes, just not sure it goes with the red though !

  • @Yorenzo27
    @Yorenzo27 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn that sounds sweet! I got CRT on my 2020 Striple and SC project is amazing! Deep!

  • @adamcain4603
    @adamcain4603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds so good

  • @Davey_ItsaRS
    @Davey_ItsaRS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sheesh she looks clean 🧼

  • @sompobutama3761
    @sompobutama3761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sound great I’m looking for aftermarket exhaust for my 2022 Speed Triple having hard time finding it thanks for sharing 🙏

  • @gonbikes
    @gonbikes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sound awesome 👏

  • @superkai6483
    @superkai6483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds awesome mate! I really want this exact exhaust but not sure if I should buy the SC headers along with it!. Rapid Bikes have made a tuning module like the power commander that will be on their website in a couple days. Might be a good option if you go with a full system in the meantime until a proper flash is available. Cheers from New Zealand

  • @wassolldermuell689
    @wassolldermuell689 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bro you sound exactly like Ryan Reynolds!

  • @ENDUROMARAW
    @ENDUROMARAW ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ohhhhh thanks a lot ! 🤤

  • @barrintimo7412
    @barrintimo7412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    that is sweet

  • @CraterLakey
    @CraterLakey ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Damn, well done dude. I'm not sure how long I'll be able to leave mine stock knowing it can sound this good. Might wait check prices for full systems when they come out but this is certainly a great option!

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Im extremely impatient sooooooo an exhaust was necessary

    • @pcarts232
      @pcarts232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But why ? There’s nothing wrong with the exhaust on the bike

    • @CraterLakey
      @CraterLakey ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pcarts232 you do realize you could say that about literally anything that anyone would want to modify right? It's subjective.

    • @pcarts232
      @pcarts232 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CraterLakey it’s just my opinion.. ride safe enjoy 👍🏾

    • @superkai6483
      @superkai6483 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pcarts232 Whats the point in asking him why if he wanted to do it?

  • @charles_2495
    @charles_2495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this video, it’s really usefull !
    I’ve got a question, do you know if the diameter between the 3 in 1 and the catalyst from the original exhaust système is the same as on the 2021 exhaust ?
    (Sorry if my english is not perfect : I’m French 😅)

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I dont know the diameter but i think its very close compared to the 2021. Any exhaust shop will be able to mate a 2022 exhaust to a 2024 tbh. Even if a reducer pipe is needed

  • @alexisv7087
    @alexisv7087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to do the same on my 2023 street. Did you need to adapt something to do it ? Did you change the attachment ?

  • @benjones6625
    @benjones6625 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you getting such clear engine sounds? external mic or? and if so where are you placing the external mic to get no wind noise etc - nice vid dude

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha this was a complete accident. Im not sure if it recorded off the purple panda in my helmet, or the media mod mic with the "low raw" audio setting...

  • @MrLousme
    @MrLousme หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the part that makes the link between the original collector and the elbow part of the sc project, Thanks for the video ✌️

  • @akramalsheikh3868
    @akramalsheikh3868 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job man she looks 🔥. I went to triumph dealership here in Boise Idaho last week, having hard time to decide which one to buy the street triple or 660. I had 2012 CBR1000rr, BMW 2011 1000rr, 2009 & 2010 harley and much more in the past. Never owned Triumph or Ducati.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh man youll be stuck! Both are great bikes. Sounds like the 660 might be more for you based on past bikes, but def give both a try! Im an Audi guy so ducati is probably next on my list but i need to RELAX...

    • @Khmersupra
      @Khmersupra ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motocorn test ride a supersport ducati , i got a tune n werkes with db killer , planning for a 660 or triple in next two years

    • @Khmersupra
      @Khmersupra ปีที่แล้ว

      btw what app are you using for the db i haven’t tested mine basically got a 3/4 exhaust db killer , they say to put packing and steel wires in the db killer planning to try it next week , pull it out wrap the packing and secure with wire and reinstall

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Khmersupra I haven't tested mine. Im not worried about it haha

  • @jamesjaneczek8256
    @jamesjaneczek8256 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you notice any slight performance drop with the full system? Because I understand the 2024 cannot be tuned yet properly. Im looking at doing a Grind O full system.

  • @honeyrattan6486
    @honeyrattan6486 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there any product out there to hide that exhaust bottom part?

  • @gryphongryph
    @gryphongryph ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds great, but maybe too loud 😂 can I ask how tall you are, do you find the bike to be comfortable for a whole day of riding?
    Like your channel.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its pretty damn loud haha. Im 5'6 (on a good day) Ill make a height video this week :)

  • @777MOTO
    @777MOTO ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sorry if its a dumb question but what headers are those? are they stock oem but from 17-22? did you get any warning lights with the new system at all?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sorry for the late response! Theyre Specifically 2021 headers if i remember.. But all from 2017 to 2022 is the same! No warning lights, bike runs perfectly fine. Would recommend since there are no tunes out yet.

  • @NexusVibee
    @NexusVibee ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like you can also fit SC FullSystems. So if you can afford the SC project option but this is a nice cheaper alternative

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ill I would need is the headers and this would be the full system :) No tune so no headers yet

  • @fredoc9125
    @fredoc9125 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sounds good. What's the third moto in the background?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh, either a royal enfield int650 (friends) or a BMW f850gsa (fathers)

  • @wernerxldata
    @wernerxldata 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good stuff, I like creative people :)
    Did you do the riding part with or without the baffle in the back ?
    It really doesn't seem to be insanely loud, thought the S1 would be. Love it actually.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!
      This video had the baffle in the entire time :)

    • @wernerxldata
      @wernerxldata 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@motocorn How did you experience the sound ? In your video it doesn't seem a lot louder than stock, mainly a lot deeper sound. But it's always hard to judge in a video.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its alot louder than stock. Trust me. Sounds awesome@@wernerxldata

    • @wernerxldata
      @wernerxldata 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@motocorn Sounds cool :)

    • @danthexamn
      @danthexamn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you make a video with the baffle out 🤤 please lol

  • @emilbrynjar251
    @emilbrynjar251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What year sc project exhaust would I need to buy? I just ordered some 2017 headers. I will be fitting this to my 2024 RS. Great video BTW

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The 2021/2022 version SC is what you need.
      Thanks!

    • @emilbrynjar251
      @emilbrynjar251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much!

  • @chr1zy0
    @chr1zy0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do you know if the 2019 collector fits with 20-22 s1?

  • @SaruRaw
    @SaruRaw ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey. Are you liking the sound with or without the baffle more? Is there a big difference between the two, also which one are you keeping?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I havent even taken the baffle out. Its super loud with it in. Maybe im just used to a vacuum cleaner sounding bike :)

    • @SaruRaw
      @SaruRaw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motocorn That's better for your neighbours atleast. Congrats on the bike btw absolutely gorgeous. I was big on the red but the silver is just as sick.

  • @alexisv7087
    @alexisv7087 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. I want to do the same but did you lose some power ?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      No idea. Definitely doesn’t feel like it. You could take 10hp off the thing I wouldn’t know. Haha. I’m 95% sure it didn’t

  • @robita25
    @robita25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good work! What are those for mirrors? Thanks

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fenrir "Arrow" mirrors :)
      www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PP55WV7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
      With Brogue Bar ends:
      broguemotorcycles.com/collections/universal-parts-bar-end-mirrors/products/triumph-bar-end-finishers

  • @NJRabbleRousers
    @NJRabbleRousers ปีที่แล้ว

    I just installed the full Spark exhaust on my 2024. But same problem with the rear set bolt and the bracket to the right of the rear set. Curious what did you use to bolt it up to the two points? I see the wholes for the bracket to the right but wonder what parts to buy to get it to bolt up. Cool if we could chat somehow.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems like the spark exhaust uses the right side bracket, the SC project only uses the Rear set as a mounting point. Funny enough, the Leo Vince uses that same bracket, but doesn't bolt up to the rear set, so its no able to be used unless you get the same bracket youre after!

    • @NJRabbleRousers
      @NJRabbleRousers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motocorn yeah going to take a trip to Triumph this week to get the other bracket to see if I can hook it up to both the rear set and the bracket. Also need to look into the older radiator bracket for the headers.

  • @emilbrynjar251
    @emilbrynjar251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone know the diameter of the pipe connecting to the midpipe?

  • @trevorschietroma5816
    @trevorschietroma5816 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like it pops a lot on decel.
    Did it run any hotter than with the stock exhaust?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not that I can tell tbh. I’ll check into it next time I ride

    • @ThatGermanFella
      @ThatGermanFella ปีที่แล้ว +1

      normal, does the same on my Trident 660 with identical exhaust, dealer installed, been told its normal and actually sounds really good.

  • @LucaalessandroSartori-dz5sn
    @LucaalessandroSartori-dz5sn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is full exhaust or only slip on???

  • @Nine.siixxx
    @Nine.siixxx ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey mate did the slip on mounting bracket line up fine besides the spacer?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It did. You need to make sure you get a slip on that mounts to the rear set (foot pegs) and not the OTHER mount that can be found on the 2022 and lower. The Leo Vince uses the other bracket just for reference.

    • @Nine.siixxx
      @Nine.siixxx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motocorn cheers mate really appreciate the info!

  • @jeffro5032
    @jeffro5032 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sitting watching this , looking for info on the Triumph triple street and after market exhaust. You go for a spin , and hot Damn , Hwy 30!! I drive that dang road almost every day! Exhaust sounds great Connor!

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love the 30!

    • @jeffro5032
      @jeffro5032 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@motocorn It's the dang autoban now days! Used to not be that way. Now if you're doing 70 , you're the slowest guy on the road!

  • @wooomit
    @wooomit 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a sc muffler compatible with the 2024 model? I'm confused because on the sc official website it says it's from 20 to 22.

    • @emilbrynjar251
      @emilbrynjar251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wondering about the same thing

  • @wojciechkubik2247
    @wojciechkubik2247 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is db killer easy to remove?

  • @user-ss8ge5yb1s
    @user-ss8ge5yb1s ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m wondering if my 2020 sc project full system will fit on the same bike it’s the same exhaust as this?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      It will! You just need headers and some bushings if you have a 2024 model

    • @user-ss8ge5yb1s
      @user-ss8ge5yb1s ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool thanks I have full system which was fitted on my 2020 now got the 765rs Moto 2 just waiting on a tune to come out before fitting. Thanks for the reply great video 👍

  • @drrrd9536
    @drrrd9536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you need to upgrade the headers to get the pipe installed?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did. Had to buy 2017-2022 stock headers to keep the Cat

  • @Bluecollarguy87
    @Bluecollarguy87 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is the wind on the highway? Could you go for some time on the highway?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not great but its not bad at all

  • @hypermotardking
    @hypermotardking ปีที่แล้ว

    Was missing a stock sound start compared to the SC..?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, i completly forgot to throw in a clip of the stock sound. I mean there are tons of videos on youtube with sound clips. But i for sure should have added one, sorry.

  • @DatOldeBiker
    @DatOldeBiker ปีที่แล้ว

    The bike sounds even better, but why don't you use quick shifter? :>)

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tbh I dont have an answer haha. Guess Ive just been in the mood to use the clutch haha

  • @cole2917
    @cole2917 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds awesome! it's too bad that it requires this amount of money and time sourcing parts just to run a slip on

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree... But im glad i got to show youtube that its possible :)

  • @FrenchyRider574
    @FrenchyRider574 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to tune the ecu now ?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not with a slip on :) Factory cat is still there

  • @oofskzy
    @oofskzy ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you still have the MD fender eliminator? Id love to buy it off you

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Message me on Instagram! @moto_corn

  • @ThatGermanFella
    @ThatGermanFella ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same exhaust on my Trident 660, completely transformed the bike, sounds very mean and no one is suspecting its "only" a 660 ... lol

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is something special about the triples!!!

  • @SpeckNV
    @SpeckNV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not titanium headerers from the previous gen?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No tunes out yet :/

    • @SpeckNV
      @SpeckNV ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the sound of the exhaust but not sold on the looks with this bike. This bike is classy to me, personally I like the looks of the Zard but nonetheless great work man!!! Good work for the new owners like myself

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SpeckNV Oh i LOVE the zard, i would have gone with that but they couldnt get them in the states for months.. :/

    • @SpeckNV
      @SpeckNV ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@motocorn where did you get the headers from? Price? New or used?

  • @WindowsPlaysFPS
    @WindowsPlaysFPS ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you need to tune

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      No because it still retains a cat, due to the stock headers. Wouldnt hurt tho, they just arent out yet

  • @poopertrooperz
    @poopertrooperz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    damn how much do your S4 plates cost. >_

  • @adamcain4603
    @adamcain4603 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the cat gutted or intact

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Intact! Did not wanna tune it

  • @joelg2751
    @joelg2751 ปีที่แล้ว

    hope this bike fit me i am 5′ 11″ tall 180cm

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh it will fit. I feel like thats the perfect height for it

  • @anirudhauttarkar8806
    @anirudhauttarkar8806 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much of efforts and money on the exhaust, just to make us hear the sound of wind 😂. Please use a h1n for clearer audio of exhaust.
    We would love to hear it.

  • @aperlia6603
    @aperlia6603 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In case nobody knew, that's an S4.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is true. Gotta let em know from afar

  • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
    @stanleyblazeraznik6047 ปีที่แล้ว

    Needs a TUNE. Needs. Not optional. Flash it.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely optional :) it’s a slip on with stock headers stock cat

    • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
      @stanleyblazeraznik6047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motocorn ….and you gain what? Looks? Sound? Not performance.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stanleyblazeraznik6047 this is more bike than I’ll ever need. If I drop a few HP I don’t care and wouldn’t notice. Reminder, this is just a slip on. Also, not sure if you’re aware, there are no tunes for this. I’ve mentioned that probably 10 times now

    • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
      @stanleyblazeraznik6047 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motocorn No tunes yet. By the time the warranty expires there will be full systems and tubes. No one wants to wait. I get it.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stanleyblazeraznik6047 yea exactly, once a tune comes out I was going to get different headers and the tune. For now tho, the slip on is just fine. I didn’t notice anything different with the performance yet

  • @fizzhogg23
    @fizzhogg23 ปีที่แล้ว

    So dumb that this bike is being called a 2024 not even half way throught 2023

  • @chrisdadigger1018
    @chrisdadigger1018 ปีที่แล้ว

    They have the ugliest headlight ever designed for a motorcycle it’s a complete dealbreaker for me

  • @jamesjaneczek8256
    @jamesjaneczek8256 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you notice any slight performance drop with the full system? Because I understand the 2024 cannot be tuned yet properly. Im looking at doing a Grind O full system.

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didnt notice anything. It still has the Factory Cat so the AFR should still be somewhat similar to stock. The big thing is, the ECU has to adjust slightly just because these bikes are sold all over the world. Living at sea level vs in the mountains would change alot for the bike and if it didnt correct, well, youd have problems.
      Theres only so much correction the bike can do tho, which is why youre safe with running just a slip on, and retaining the Cat because its still within factory perimeters for the bike. If there was a drop in performance, i dont think anyone would truly notice, it would be so very small.

    • @jamesjaneczek8256
      @jamesjaneczek8256 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So would running a full system be that much more lean, enough to cause damage?

    • @motocorn
      @motocorn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesjaneczek8256 Well, Some do and have for a while without problems. Its not like running the full system will instantly blow the bike up, however it will cause the bike to run a little lean or rich (i forget) and thus degrading the engine life. But its not an instant thing right. You can get a way with it for a while. I wouldnt do it, but you can. You should get a tune whenever you run a full system