Around the 18 minute mark you mentioned the firing of Robert "Bobby" Lopez from SWBTS. The semester prior to his firing I was his teaching assistant, prior to that I was a student of his in 3 of his classes, and the treasurer of the drama club he was the faculty advisor for. I can tell you personally he was unfairly and unjustly silenced for suggesting that freedom from sexual sin (specifically same sex attraction) was possible through faith in Jesus. Other staff did not like that he was a point of controversy, even though the root of that controversy was the gospel itself and he was on the correct side of it. God bless Bobby and it was shameful how he was treated.
That is so tragic to hear. If possible, the devil would no doubt be happy that such heresy and abominations are being taught in the very seminaries supposedly teaching future preachers of The Word. Thank you for your faithfulness.
I left Scarborough last semester after realizing that heister is openly an ecumenical professor and had the blessing from Greenway. I’m over all of them.
Bro I remember the last day I saw you with your son after they blew Lopez out. Everyone was all worried about to speaking out because you were leaving.
@@christophercunningham5434 hey man good to here from you! 😀 I had no idea about that with Dr. Heister.:-( It was hard to leave, because I wanted to stay around and speak, but other factors came up and it was best for us to leave.
In the old “Battle for the Minds” documentary some moderate Baptists accused him of being a brilliant political operator and opportunist who was extremely liberal in seminary then jumped on the conservative bandwagon when he realized that was his path to power. It worked and it is really hard not to sympathize with those folks who said that back in the early 90s.
I watched a video of moderates on vhs, I think, making these statements. Though I was conservative and did not believe their theology, I tended to believe they may be genuine in their statements about Mohler.
Can you please explain "moderates"? Sometimes I only have time to read comments before I can watch a conversations that matter by Jon. Thank you. I personally have been mostly attending non-denominational churches.
Jon, grateful for your professionalism and fairness in this report. The questions regarding Dr Mohler are spot on and every SBC pastor needs to listen to this podcast. Thank you for your stand for truth.
Sadly, it appears many SBC pastors do not want to hear these realities. Many are more concerned with losing members and being painted as "Intolerant" or "Racist," than they are with teaching God's Word.
(commenting without watching, I'm going to listen to this on podcast while driving around) Dude, what really got me was there was a certain important thing happening in this nation this last November/December, and what did Dr. Mohler say about it on his daily news podcast? Not a word. He showed his position on this subject by his abject silence.
GREAT Point Floyd. Total cowardice on open Fraud. Craven, is the word that applies here. Our own SBC Calvinist pastor was equally worthless. We laymen were HIGHLY concerned but so called 'leadership' ? Not a peep. I think we see who the real leader is / are. Its King Jesus - and those who follow HARD after him and embrace suffering reputation & other loss, for the sake of knowing & standing for Him who IS Truth.
@@psalm2forliberty577 Our pastors were silent. It was awful. Even a congregant ran for statewide office and they would barely mention it. Many people have left since 2020.
@@Lin-gv3fi Sorry to hear. I think they're cowed / silenced by their 501(c)3 status. Accept Caesars favor, become Caesars' church. The Black Regiment - where are you ?
Jon. Very good work in looking into Al Mohlers background statements. In 2008, I did the same to President Obama background due to attendance of Rev. Wright church and personally knowning someone who served at the church during the 1980's. I knew what was taught at the church then and was not surprised on what President Obama was and what his policies would be.
I gave up on Al Mohler when he went on CNN and said he believed the allegations against Roy Moore. He said Christians in Al were experiencing a crisis of conscience. Told him in a comment I was not having a crisis of conscience and guilt is not determined by accusations. Mohler is the John Roberts of SBC. I am of the conclusion he is conservative until being conservative does not advance Him and his need for power and position.
Yes. A politician, or as John Strickland wrote above, "a brilliant political operator and opportunist." And that's what drives Al Mohler, his all-consuming desire for power among the men (and women) who comprise his base. This lust for power destroys whatever lies in its path, and often sexual misconduct (cf Ravi Zacharias) is much more about power and ego needs than it is about desire. And of course, you cannot serve two masters. So it's sad, because Al Mohler is indeed brilliant, but his priorities? Whom does he serve?
@@brucemercerblamelessshamel3104 Don't see the relevance of your statement. It seems that Molar, a professing Christian, has bought into "Critical Race Theory" (i.e. zeitgeist). Hence my statement. I never said he wasn't a Christian, and that seems to be your assumption.
Thanks brother, great video and analysis. The judgment of God has began and God is purifying His Church. God is revealing what is in the heart of many people. The grace of the Lord Jesus be on all those who call on the name of the Lord Jesus.
Thank you for this thorough examination of Al Mohler. To be honest, I've listened to him sometimes, but wasn't a follower so to speak. But every time I heard him, I always got a strange vibe. He seemed intellectual for sure, but that seemed to override scripture. He seemed conservative, but that didn't always seemed to be rooted in scripture. And many times he spoke in circles and I wasn't sure what he meant. But he seemed to be the darling of conferences for awhile so I thought maybe others are seeing something I'm not seeing (I felt a similar vibe about the apologetics of Ravi Zacharias as well). I think the key here is the double-mindedness you pointed out, which James 1:8 tells us is a sign of unstable ways. When this happens, you will subtly, then increasingly, see a shift from the God-breathed, sufficient Word being your guide (2 Timothy 3:16-17) to violating Proverbs 3:5 and Colossians 2:8.
Sorry to get in on this a year after the first discussion, but I am realizing that when God is opening people/s eyes, it looks like double-mindedness. First, they may start questioning their former beliefs, then they reconsider them, and ultimately, they reject them for the truth. Those who do not wish to be changed by the Holy Spirit criticize them and call them "liberals in conservative clothing." The divine reality is different: those so-called conservative have only conserved their old ways of thinking, so that the true gospel is ineffective in their transformation. You really want to know who is right? Just look around you at the fruit of conservatism: darkness all around us. Where is that light that you are supposed to be for the world? Why is everyone leaving the church? Read Act 2:41 and Acts 4:4. When the preachers are in the truth, the church grows. Therefore, when they are out of the truth, the church shrinks.
Thanks Jon, great job as usual. I think Mohler was exposed particularly at the Shepherds Conference in 2018?, where he wouldn't sign the Dallas Statement but danced around the reason why. He appears to be a cultural progressive which should alarm any true Disciple of Jesus Christ. He needs to man up but more importantly repent....
@@clewis5974 I didn’t call him a wolf! I said I said wolf meaning it reminded me of Paul saying wolves in sheep’s clothing will come into the church after he leaves. Context is everything. Back off!
I don’t understand what the SBC thinks they will gain by embracing the social justice narrative. It’s a nebulous concept and extremely divisive. I’m in an SBC church now but barely. It won’t take much of this for me to leave.
Great work. And yes, thank you for your boldness to take the lead. Many years when Mohler was editor of the Christian Index I had very high respect. But over the last 5-6 years that respect has eroded. I will cast my messenger vote for Mike Stone in June.
Sadly, the CRT movement reminds me of the ungrateful slave in Matthew 18 (verses 24-34). The true Gospel provides forgiveness from infinite debt. Yet sociologists add conditions other than faith in Christ for one to be forgiven of “racism.” Like the beleaguered fellow-slave of Matthew 18:28-30, according to CRT, you can never be truly forgiven! This movement thus damns all who embrace it (Matthew 18:34). In the name of Christ Jesus, flee CRT and have nothing to do with it, please!
While I still frequently listen to The Briefing because I often find Mohler's cultural commentary to be insightful, I have to admit he does seem very double minded when you consider how he presents himself on The Briefing compared to how he seems to lead Southern Seminary. I think I also lean toward the conclusion that he is an opportunist. If he were genuinely as principled as he likes to appear, I think he would have pushed back against CRT and other progressive ideologies making inroads on Southern's campus under his watch.
I think you're dead-on. Double-minded is the word. I think he uses The Briefing as his PR/branding tool, but the actual leadership actions at Southern Seminary show the heart. As he himself has said, "Look at the people I platform." He only elevates and empowers progressives who champion the causes of the left and give no benefit of the doubt to anyone on the right. Moore, Hall, Williams, Woods, and his less-infamous minions. Meanwhile, all three of the conservative faculty who voiced their concerns about Hall as provost? He fired them all within a year.
Essentially everything I hear from him on The Briefing is very good analysis, even if I may disagree somewhat at times on some finer points. It seems to me that if anything, the podcast has become *more* conservative over the past year. Maybe he's lobbying for better positioning to become President of SBC. I know essentially nothing of how he runs the SBTS, although my pastor's son goes there.
I began to have suspicions, or at least be wary, about Al Mohler, even before I heard you begin to comment on him, back when I learned that he had refused to sign the Dallas Statement on Social Justice. His never presented a satisfactory (in my view) reason for not doing so, that was consistent with a person professing to be a theological conservative. Thank you for helping me be discerning.
As Southern Seminary trustee Tom Rush has mentioned, Al claimed at one point that he doesn't sign any statements not drafted by his own organization. A semi-plausible excuse... if it weren't for all of the external statements he HAS signed such as the Chicago Statement on Inerrancy etc....but refuting the phony systemic racism narrative was a bridge too far for him.
I had to do this same thing grapple with the information and I just came to this conclusion 3 weeks ago and finally unsubscribed to all his programs and just can't support this anymore.
Comment from Matt Hall at 16:50 confessing his racism.....so he can needle Y'ALL into the same forced browbeaten position. Somebody aught to have said: "Wow Brother how UnChristian of you. Why not repent right now ? We'll pray with & for you !?" But that would BEG his point - he ISNT CONFESSING. Hes ACCUSING his hearers of such - which is a ridiculous assertion to a crowd of Believers. Sins are Individual & Personal. 'Groups' cant SIN. This is the height of Disingenuousness. No wonder we Christians fail to lead in Cultural battles - with Con Artistry like this we do the enemies job for him !
There's 2 factors that weren't considered here. (1) Southern Baptist entities are considered by Southern Baptists to be immune to criticism, and (2), the SBC is strongly influenced by Bill Hybels, Rick Warren, and the Church Growth movement. In other words, the convention is overrun with pragmatism.
I hope Jon covers Rick Warren and the church in Southern California. It’s such a shame my own father helped build that church to only see what it and the SBC has become
Thank you for taking the lead on this. It seems like the older generation except for maybe James White just isn’t willing to do it. I’ve seen Doug defend him for too long and even Mac hasn’t directly called him out (to my knowledge). You’d think after both Shepherd’s and, you know, HAVING CHURCH, Mac would have done so, but seems there’s too much history for them all there.
We don't know what is going on behind closed doors and JMAC's had a lot going on with his church and Masters seminary in the last year. He's 81 yrs old has to slow down at some point!
James White never, ever calls out Mohler. White has had the "phone call." John MacArthur eludes to old friends he has lost and Mohler seems to be in that group.
@@darrelljackson6175 He definitely has called him out that way, but I was thinking he had directly called him out. I could be wrong. JMAC is the last man standing.
Thank you for making this video and for your hard work and excellent insight and information about Al Mohler...Well said brother and I sincerely appreciate you always doing your videos first and foremost for the mission of glorifying the kingdom of God, bringing truth to the church body, and lastly doing it with class/humility so that Christ is always exulted. As difficult as I'm sure it can be calling people out within the church that are well known/popular it's so critical and I praise God for brothers like you who are willing to do so boldly but always in love I must add and also for the great work you've done and continue to do....God bless brother, Jesus is Lord!!! 👑💖💒🙏💯🔥
The root of the problem is that the Board of Trustees in these Seminaries are Liberal. The Trustees set the agenda and direction of the seminary; the seminary president is basically a figurehead who executes their agenda. This also means that the last several SBC presidents "elected" for the last several terms have all been liberal who appointed liberal committees and in turn liberal trustees. It could be argued that there was no conservative resurgence to begin with. It was merely a facade.
He's 100% supporting liberalism/unbelief but desperately wants to maintain his conservative street cred. His actions over a long period of time simply do not match his words. After a while we have to decide that we're just not going to be fooled by his words anymore.
His quotes made me feel so burdened, and I don't even believe him. I can only imagine the burden placed on those who put stock in his words. The yolk of Jesus is light. This is a different yolk altogether. I feel sorry for his poor listeners.
It seems like institutions have struggled through this covid craziness to survive. God is testing the genuineness of their faith. Social Justice offered relevance and a social platform to bail them out from extinction. Sadly they took the bait especially with the Breonna Taylor case brewing in Louisville.
Two and a half years later, I am going to listen in on what seems to be a very important one according to the comments. I appreciate your conversations backed by research. Thanks! ✝️
Great presentation. People need to read their bibles and take responsibility for knowing God through His Word rather than being taught by people these days. Too many doctrines of deception. Leaders are seeking to please men and appease God and that won’t work. Saul was eventually taken out of leadership. I suppose Al Mohler will be too at some point.
From all the conflicting evidence presented here, it seems that depending upon the texture and nutritional make-up of any particular food for thought, Al alternates chewing between his right and left molars, but do we know whether his wisdom teeth have been removed? The upcoming convention will probably offer a sumptuous buffet, but may also produce some profuse expectoration.
I have been SBC for 2.5 years and was, at first an Al Mohler fan. Then I got queasy and could not put my finger on it. "He is first and foremost a politician." That comment got to me. I know someone just like him. Both are very successful and both scare the bejeebies out of me.
The Breanna Taylor story is about a woman killed due to her being in drug activity not her color. Pastors should preach about drugs which contributes to crackdowns by drug enforcement.
What happened? As always happens to once successful people who gain a taste of that success and what it can bring materially - it brings complacency and a willingness to cut corners to keep that success coming. And it also means accommodating to the spirit of the age (wokeness) and making the gospel just an appendage to that success.
I am an Independent Baptist since I was saved in 1976. I believe this is the closest to the first church. Everything is local to the individual church. The second church I joined because I moved from Illinois to Arizona, was pastored by a man that left the SBC. He did not talk much about why he left. In the years since my membership in that church, I have heard many things about the SBC and I would never attend a church that is a part of this group. I appreciate the gentleman who made this podcast, and I would tell him that he should leave this convention and join an Independent Baptist Church and get on with learning and living the Bible and follow JESUS and only JESUS!
I left the Independent Baptist movement because of unbiblical legalism and Pharisaical attitudes, and an emphasis and focus on outward actions rather than focusing on the heart loving God that leads to holy living.
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. I know because I was one It was the reason I had depression and anxiety. Man or woman, it will affect you physically, mentally and spiritually.
Scary stuff. I think we should get used to seeing this from our Christian leaders more and more if they want to stay relevant. As it's been said,"Our list of allies grows thin"
It would seem Mohler is a squish. Racism is an individual sin. No program, agenda or resolution has the power to root it out. Only individual reaction to the Gospel has that power. So preach that. CRT is based on the premise that accusation equates to truth. This is the same premise Satan has always operated under.
The titles of Sadiccess and Pharisees comes to mind as these wranglings remind me that we are in the End Times Prophecies spoken of in I and II Timothy and the Book of Revelations, specifically Chapters 2 & 3
Yes, this is helpful. This reminds me of the folks 100 years ago that came up with the JEDP theory of inspiration. Good guys on some level but slippery, fast and loose with Scripture and also vague with definitions of terms.
If this (racism) is to be the unpardonable sin that no white Christian can overcome and if the popular belief that blacks can’t be racist then you are creating an entire people group that don’t sin and therefore don’t need the gospel. By defining the central problem with humanity as the sin of sins what is not being said is the central essence of sin is against the holy God and therefore there is no need for the gospel.
I am convinced by your assessment (Mohler being just an opportunistic conservative) as I already had some question marks in the back of my head before concerning his credibility. He never seemed to be as sincere as John MacArthur (to name just one other prominent evangelical personality). Covid-19 and how churches (seminaries) dealt with it, was revealing too.
I used to distribute his videos for campus crusade for Christ. If Christians don't have the full Gospel then he has to blame himself for bearing no fruit and failing to feed the sheep. By now he should have made a difference however the only difference he has made is to declare the Baptist Church apostate.
It is a different gospel guys. Be very careful. Read what the Word says about a different gospel. Do not be deceived. He is a politician. So was Ravi sad to say. Maybe Billy Graham also.
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. Proverbs 18:17. I wish Mohler would answer clearly these accusations. Mohler is a Winston Churchill disciple. Not a bad thing to be. But one must realize that Winston was in both parties and supported his principles. Mohler might have taken on Churchill's style of doing politics. Just a thought.... Mohler may be sitting in a precarious chair. He may indeed be the last bulwark of conservatism in a sea of wolves at SBTS. In order to keep his position perhaps he has to be careful which battles he stands upon.
Frankly i'm surprised it took you so long to get here. Perhaps because I had no idea who he was (being raised Catholic) the first time I saw you showing us some of his statements (perhaps a year and a half ago when i first found you) i thought it was rather odd how much benefit of the doubt you were giving him. Sometimes when you have attachments to people it is hard to clearly see them for who they are. He is simply a con man who talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Jon, How much do you think the fact that pastor’s retirement program being supplemented/funded by the cooperative program keeps pastors from being willing to be frank with their congregations on the state of things in the SBC and their leaders. As an example, the church I am a member of left this last year; we however included in our pastor’s package the fee required to sustain his retirement program outside of the SBC/Cooperative Program. It’s maybe a $500 a year penalty we pay for him, but things like this may have minister’s mentality captured in ways that laymen aren’t aware of. Disgusting if true, but not a small matter to be sure. Thoughts?
@@nilwon we take care of paying the penalty for him each year so he doesn’t lose any vestment; my point is that there’s a wicked trap built into the cooperative program that at a minimum serves as a tacit anchor point for many of these pastors when their elders/deacons/boards/congregations begin moving for secession from the SBC. Many churches are making line item exclusions for their CP giving as well (i.e. designate that their giving not be distributed to any funding of ERLC, NAMB, SWBTS, etc.. ). The provable psychotic crap the NAMB has been teaching/pushing on their missionary training, the institution of affirmative action in hiring, etc is clear cause for any body to abstain from funding the NAMB. The contrivances built into the whole system of the mission boards, seminaries, and ERLC would have at least 1/3 of the congregations leave in a single year if they earnestly knew of them, I believe. But are pastors doing their people right? Are their people kept abreast of things? How many pastors were going to attend the Pastor’s Conference last year on their church’s dime without disclosing the slate of speakers or even that it was Dr Uth who was hosting?
He's busy shrinking important biblical teachings through his own doctrinal "triage" concept. Seems he's also posturing himself to be the next SBC prez.
This is sad too because I used to listen to the Briefing while having my first coffee every morning. I want to make sure we are careful because I do see people like him say things and because Social Justice Warriors use some of those same terms then it must mean that it's a knee jerk thing but with Mohler he simply sold out I think he figures it's a dad that will pass away but it's not unless we expose it and get a backbone, not letting them accuse us of racism or let their accusation hurt us because we know they use that as a weapon to silence arguments they cannot defeat.
Refreshing criticism of a man I simply tuned out last year because I thought he made everything harder to understand. He was on a couple of question and answer panels at GTY and Ligonier and everything he said sounded like “yes but!”
There seems to be a lot of hyperbole in this. Things like, "it seems", "not said be implied", and other vague implications. And I see totally different emphasis when DR. Mohler speaks. I just think this guy has a ax to grind with Dr. Mohler. I don't know why. He cherry picks clips to support his view. This is not the Dr. Mohler I have been listening to for the past 10 years. But in the end we really don't know what happened in any of this cases. Only what people say and no one is sinless.
Never Trump "Conservative" talk show host Michael Medved was a huge Al Mohler supporter, now he's off the airwaves. Al Mohler will also be gone, at least from conservative circles. Choose your side.
It seems to me that Mohler believes that letting the discussion happen and the truth prevail is a better tactic than stridency. Good for him. Some people seem to have very little confidence that the Gospel will prevail in the end and it produces a great deal of handwringing. I have great confidence in the Gospel. I think Mohler does also. I think I can identify with Mohler a bit here. I tend to think even less of the shrillness of those I agree with than I do of the irrationality and misguidedness of my opponents.
Some lay-person and natural seer like me needs to teach these Baptist cold water leaders about their actual position-in-Christ!! We are the righteousness of Christ Jesus. How can we have the Mind of Christ and be racist?
What I don’t get is why are our Shepherds attacking rather than comforting their flocks during a global pandemic? Is this really the time? Seems like psychological abuse to go down this path at this time.
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Around the 18 minute mark you mentioned the firing of Robert "Bobby" Lopez from SWBTS. The semester prior to his firing I was his teaching assistant, prior to that I was a student of his in 3 of his classes, and the treasurer of the drama club he was the faculty advisor for. I can tell you personally he was unfairly and unjustly silenced for suggesting that freedom from sexual sin (specifically same sex attraction) was possible through faith in Jesus. Other staff did not like that he was a point of controversy, even though the root of that controversy was the gospel itself and he was on the correct side of it. God bless Bobby and it was shameful how he was treated.
That is so tragic to hear. If possible, the devil would no doubt be happy that such heresy and abominations are being taught in the very seminaries supposedly teaching future preachers of The Word. Thank you for your faithfulness.
I left Scarborough last semester after realizing that heister is openly an ecumenical professor and had the blessing from Greenway. I’m over all of them.
Bro I remember the last day I saw you with your son after they blew Lopez out. Everyone was all worried about to speaking out because you were leaving.
@@christophercunningham5434 hey man good to here from you! 😀
I had no idea about that with Dr. Heister.:-(
It was hard to leave, because I wanted to stay around and speak, but other factors came up and it was best for us to leave.
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In the old “Battle for the Minds” documentary some moderate Baptists accused him of being a brilliant political operator and opportunist who was extremely liberal in seminary then jumped on the conservative bandwagon when he realized that was his path to power. It worked and it is really hard not to sympathize with those folks who said that back in the early 90s.
I watched a video of moderates on vhs, I think, making these statements. Though I was conservative and did not believe their theology, I tended to believe they may be genuine in their statements about Mohler.
Went and looked up the documentary. Then read about dr molly Marshall. She resigned as a seminary president for ethical reasons In 2019
Can you please explain "moderates"? Sometimes I only have time to read comments before I can watch a conversations that matter by Jon. Thank you. I personally have been mostly attending non-denominational churches.
May we not exalt man above Christ. No leader is above correction. Thank you for this commentary concerning Dr. Mohler.
Jon, grateful for your professionalism and fairness in this report. The questions regarding Dr Mohler are spot on and every SBC pastor needs to listen to this podcast. Thank you for your stand for truth.
Sadly, it appears many SBC pastors do not want to hear these realities. Many are more concerned with losing members and being painted as "Intolerant" or "Racist," than they are with teaching God's Word.
Thank you Tom for your courage and conviction!
(commenting without watching, I'm going to listen to this on podcast while driving around)
Dude, what really got me was there was a certain important thing happening in this nation this last November/December, and what did Dr. Mohler say about it on his daily news podcast? Not a word. He showed his position on this subject by his abject silence.
GREAT Point Floyd.
Total cowardice on open Fraud.
Craven, is the word that applies here.
Our own SBC Calvinist pastor was equally worthless. We laymen were HIGHLY concerned but so called 'leadership' ?
Not a peep.
I think we see who the real leader is / are.
Its King Jesus - and those who follow HARD after him and embrace suffering reputation & other loss, for the sake of knowing & standing for Him who IS Truth.
@@psalm2forliberty577 Our pastors were silent. It was awful. Even a congregant ran for statewide office and they would barely mention it. Many people have left since 2020.
@@Lin-gv3fi
Sorry to hear.
I think they're cowed / silenced by their 501(c)3 status.
Accept Caesars favor, become Caesars' church.
The Black Regiment - where are you ?
Jon. Very good work in looking into Al Mohlers background statements. In 2008, I did the same to President Obama background due to attendance of Rev. Wright church and personally knowning someone who served at the church during the 1980's. I knew what was taught at the church then and was not surprised on what President Obama was and what his policies would be.
Too bad we couldn't get Rush Limbaugh's comments.
I gave up on Al Mohler when he went on CNN and said he believed the allegations against Roy Moore. He said Christians in Al were experiencing a crisis of conscience. Told him in a comment I was not having a crisis of conscience and guilt is not determined by accusations. Mohler is the John Roberts of SBC. I am of the conclusion he is conservative until being conservative does not advance Him and his need for power and position.
Roy Moore is a wonderful Christian man. I am proud to know him.
Al Mohler has always been a politician first.We did have a lot of respect for him. We left him 10 years ago. We have no regrets
Yes. A politician, or as John Strickland wrote above, "a brilliant political operator and opportunist." And that's what drives Al Mohler, his all-consuming desire for power among the men (and women) who comprise his base. This lust for power destroys whatever lies in its path, and often sexual misconduct (cf Ravi Zacharias) is much more about power and ego needs than it is about desire. And of course, you cannot serve two masters. So it's sad, because Al Mohler is indeed brilliant, but his priorities? Whom does he serve?
any sin is a stain AND the Blood of Jesus washes all sin away
Indeed
Kinda the whole point of the Gospel. "Jesus paid it all, all to Him I owe, I was red with sin, He washed me white as snow."
Where’s confession and repentance?
@@lamontfaulkner5090 all saved repent and believe confess etc, but Christ alone saves
@@brucemercerblamelessshamel3104 Don't see the relevance of your statement. It seems that Molar, a professing Christian, has bought into "Critical Race Theory" (i.e. zeitgeist). Hence my statement. I never said he wasn't a Christian, and that seems to be your assumption.
Thanks brother, great video and analysis. The judgment of God has began and God is purifying His Church. God is revealing what is in the heart of many people. The grace of the Lord Jesus be on all those who call on the name of the Lord Jesus.
Daniel 12:10
@@fredderfable Amen brother
Amen & Amen ✝️
Thank you for this thorough examination of Al Mohler. To be honest, I've listened to him sometimes, but wasn't a follower so to speak. But every time I heard him, I always got a strange vibe. He seemed intellectual for sure, but that seemed to override scripture. He seemed conservative, but that didn't always seemed to be rooted in scripture. And many times he spoke in circles and I wasn't sure what he meant. But he seemed to be the darling of conferences for awhile so I thought maybe others are seeing something I'm not seeing (I felt a similar vibe about the apologetics of Ravi Zacharias as well). I think the key here is the double-mindedness you pointed out, which James 1:8 tells us is a sign of unstable ways. When this happens, you will subtly, then increasingly, see a shift from the God-breathed, sufficient Word being your guide (2 Timothy 3:16-17) to violating Proverbs 3:5 and Colossians 2:8.
Great points! I, too was thinking of Ravi Zacharias while reading your comment! He operated in a similarly over-intellectualized and "Flashy" manner.
Sorry to get in on this a year after the first discussion, but I am realizing that when God is opening people/s eyes, it looks like double-mindedness. First, they may start questioning their former beliefs, then they reconsider them, and ultimately, they reject them for the truth. Those who do not wish to be changed by the Holy Spirit criticize them and call them "liberals in conservative clothing." The divine reality is different: those so-called conservative have only conserved their old ways of thinking, so that the true gospel is ineffective in their transformation. You really want to know who is right? Just look around you at the fruit of conservatism: darkness all around us. Where is that light that you are supposed to be for the world? Why is everyone leaving the church? Read Act 2:41 and Acts 4:4. When the preachers are in the truth, the church grows. Therefore, when they are out of the truth, the church shrinks.
Thanks Jon, great job as usual. I think Mohler was exposed particularly at the Shepherds Conference in 2018?, where he wouldn't sign the Dallas Statement but danced around the reason why. He appears to be a cultural progressive which should alarm any true Disciple of Jesus Christ. He needs to man up but more importantly repent....
Yup! That’s when I knew something was up with him AND Dever.
I saw that and remember saying out loud, “wolf.”
@@markstang23 ....You don't call a believer a "wolf" because someone doesn't agree with your position...
@@clewis5974 I didn’t call him a wolf! I said I said wolf meaning it reminded me of Paul saying wolves in sheep’s clothing will come into the church after he leaves. Context is everything. Back off!
Mohler is a wolf.
I don’t understand what the SBC thinks they will gain by embracing the social justice narrative. It’s a nebulous concept and extremely divisive. I’m in an SBC church now but barely. It won’t take much of this for me to leave.
Most of the SBC pew sitters don't want it. It's the elites who have take over all of the SBC institutions who think they have something to gain.
Popularity and friendship with the world. They want a seat at the table of power within the culture.
I left the SBC 15 years ago.
Haven't watched this channel in a while. Forgot how good the content was.
Great work. And yes, thank you for your boldness to take the lead. Many years when Mohler was editor of the Christian Index I had very high respect. But over the last 5-6 years that respect has eroded. I will cast my messenger vote for Mike Stone in June.
Why do people almost "worship" this man? its disturbing.
Probably they admire his success and influence.
Sadly, the CRT movement reminds me of the ungrateful slave in Matthew 18 (verses 24-34). The true Gospel provides forgiveness from infinite debt. Yet sociologists add conditions other than faith in Christ for one to be forgiven of “racism.” Like the beleaguered fellow-slave of Matthew 18:28-30, according to CRT, you can never be truly forgiven! This movement thus damns all who embrace it (Matthew 18:34). In the name of Christ Jesus, flee CRT and have nothing to do with it, please!
While I still frequently listen to The Briefing because I often find Mohler's cultural commentary to be insightful, I have to admit he does seem very double minded when you consider how he presents himself on The Briefing compared to how he seems to lead Southern Seminary. I think I also lean toward the conclusion that he is an opportunist. If he were genuinely as principled as he likes to appear, I think he would have pushed back against CRT and other progressive ideologies making inroads on Southern's campus under his watch.
I think you're dead-on. Double-minded is the word. I think he uses The Briefing as his PR/branding tool, but the actual leadership actions at Southern Seminary show the heart. As he himself has said, "Look at the people I platform." He only elevates and empowers progressives who champion the causes of the left and give no benefit of the doubt to anyone on the right. Moore, Hall, Williams, Woods, and his less-infamous minions. Meanwhile, all three of the conservative faculty who voiced their concerns about Hall as provost? He fired them all within a year.
Essentially everything I hear from him on The Briefing is very good analysis, even if I may disagree somewhat at times on some finer points. It seems to me that if anything, the podcast has become *more* conservative over the past year. Maybe he's lobbying for better positioning to become President of SBC. I know essentially nothing of how he runs the SBTS, although my pastor's son goes there.
The Gospel is not a pragmatic tool to be used to address social justice.
I began to have suspicions, or at least be wary, about Al Mohler, even before I heard you begin to comment on him, back when I learned that he had refused to sign the Dallas Statement on Social Justice. His never presented a satisfactory (in my view) reason for not doing so, that was consistent with a person professing to be a theological conservative. Thank you for helping me be discerning.
He wanted Russell Moore hired also. That was seven or more years ago.
As Southern Seminary trustee Tom Rush has mentioned, Al claimed at one point that he doesn't sign any statements not drafted by his own organization. A semi-plausible excuse... if it weren't for all of the external statements he HAS signed such as the Chicago Statement on Inerrancy etc....but refuting the phony systemic racism narrative was a bridge too far for him.
I had to do this same thing grapple with the information and I just came to this conclusion 3 weeks ago and finally unsubscribed to all his programs and just can't support this anymore.
Thanks for your hours of effort and hard work.
Comment from Matt Hall at 16:50 confessing his racism.....so he can needle Y'ALL into the same forced browbeaten position.
Somebody aught to have said: "Wow Brother how UnChristian of you. Why not repent right now ? We'll pray with & for you !?"
But that would BEG his point - he ISNT CONFESSING.
Hes ACCUSING his hearers of such - which is a ridiculous assertion to a crowd of Believers.
Sins are Individual & Personal.
'Groups' cant SIN.
This is the height of Disingenuousness.
No wonder we Christians fail to lead in Cultural battles - with Con Artistry like this we do the enemies job for him !
There's 2 factors that weren't considered here. (1) Southern Baptist entities are considered by Southern Baptists to be immune to criticism, and (2), the SBC is strongly influenced by Bill Hybels, Rick Warren, and the Church Growth movement. In other words, the convention is overrun with pragmatism.
Good ol' Rick "Chrislam" Warren.
I hope Jon covers Rick Warren and the church in Southern California. It’s such a shame my own father helped build that church to only see what it and the SBC has become
Thank you for taking the lead on this. It seems like the older generation except for maybe James White just isn’t willing to do it. I’ve seen Doug defend him for too long and even Mac hasn’t directly called him out (to my knowledge). You’d think after both Shepherd’s and, you know, HAVING CHURCH, Mac would have done so, but seems there’s too much history for them all there.
We don't know what is going on behind closed doors and JMAC's had a lot going on with his church and Masters seminary in the last year. He's 81 yrs old has to slow down at some point!
James White never, ever calls out Mohler. White has had the "phone call." John MacArthur eludes to old friends he has lost and Mohler seems to be in that group.
@@darrelljackson6175 He definitely has called him out that way, but I was thinking he had directly called him out. I could be wrong. JMAC is the last man standing.
Thank you for making this video and for your hard work and excellent insight and information about Al Mohler...Well said brother and I sincerely appreciate you always doing your videos first and foremost for the mission of glorifying the kingdom of God, bringing truth to the church body, and lastly doing it with class/humility so that Christ is always exulted. As difficult as I'm sure it can be calling people out within the church that are well known/popular it's so critical and I praise God for brothers like you who are willing to do so boldly but always in love I must add and also for the great work you've done and continue to do....God bless brother, Jesus is Lord!!! 👑💖💒🙏💯🔥
Yes, two Al Mohlers. So shrewd.
The root of the problem is that the Board of Trustees in these Seminaries are Liberal. The Trustees set the agenda and direction of the seminary; the seminary president is basically a figurehead who executes their agenda. This also means that the last several SBC presidents "elected" for the last several terms have all been liberal who appointed liberal committees and in turn liberal trustees. It could be argued that there was no conservative resurgence to begin with. It was merely a facade.
He's 100% supporting liberalism/unbelief but desperately wants to maintain his conservative street cred.
His actions over a long period of time simply do not match his words. After a while we have to decide that we're just not going to be fooled by his words anymore.
Al Mohler is just a moderate. Not a liberal. Get a grip.
His quotes made me feel so burdened, and I don't even believe him. I can only imagine the burden placed on those who put stock in his words. The yolk of Jesus is light. This is a different yolk altogether. I feel sorry for his poor listeners.
So true. Apparently many are again willing to put on the unnecessary burdens of this world in order to appease it!
There are clearly important topics Mohler is avoiding, if you just browse his Briefing
It seems like institutions have struggled through this covid craziness to survive. God is testing the genuineness of their faith. Social Justice offered relevance and a social platform to bail them out from extinction. Sadly they took the bait especially with the Breonna Taylor case brewing in Louisville.
Two and a half years later, I am going to listen in on what seems to be a very important one according to the comments. I appreciate your conversations backed by research. Thanks! ✝️
Stage 4 chemo. At that point, it's probably best to go into hospice care :(.
This conversation makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the video
As James White says: "There is therefore now much condemnation in the woke church."
Great content as usual. Thanks for truly revealing these evil men within the church.
Thank you for sharing this. I had no idea
Great presentation. People need to read their bibles and take responsibility for knowing God through His Word rather than being taught by people these days. Too many doctrines of deception. Leaders are seeking to please men and appease God and that won’t work. Saul was eventually taken out of leadership. I suppose Al Mohler will be too at some point.
Thank you Jon for presenting facts!
He was for critical race theory before he was against critical race theory.
He's the John Kerry of southern baptists.
Excellent 2004 callback.
Finally.
He succumbed to the "Go along to get along" shibboleth.
From all the conflicting evidence presented here, it seems that depending upon the texture and nutritional make-up of any particular food for thought, Al alternates chewing between his right and left molars, but do we know whether his wisdom teeth have been removed? The upcoming convention will probably offer a sumptuous buffet, but may also produce some profuse expectoration.
I have been SBC for 2.5 years and was, at first an Al Mohler fan. Then I got queasy and could not put my finger on it. "He is first and foremost a politician." That comment got to me. I know someone just like him. Both are very successful and both scare the bejeebies out of me.
These days old Al sure seems 'woke' to me.
Worse. I don't think he's anything but committed to gathering power for himself.
A wolf in sheep's clothing.
God Bless, and have a great weekend👍💖
I was literally just about to type this into the search bar, but lo and behold the answer was in the side bar.
The Breanna Taylor story is about a woman killed due to her being in drug activity not her color.
Pastors should preach about drugs which contributes to crackdowns by drug enforcement.
Yeah cops dont sin. Is voddie your daddy?
@@lolaguide4648 They we're risking their lives serving warrants. If there were no stash or trap houses in Breonnas life she would still be here.
@@lolaguide4648 Romans 13 gives the role of governing authorities. The police need to win the drug war.
Thank you for you well researched and accurate presentations
Albert 'the mole' Mohler
Brannon Howse has been calling him that for several years.
"this is the right tone" classic. LOL
lol. "hes well versed in critical race theory"
Thank you so much. I have exactly the same position as you do
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.”
Matthew 7:15
Thank you. Very helpful. God bless you!
Thank you Jon for all your research
What happened? As always happens to once successful people who gain a taste of that success and what it can bring materially - it brings complacency and a willingness to cut corners to keep that success coming. And it also means accommodating to the spirit of the age (wokeness) and making the gospel just an appendage to that success.
I am an Independent Baptist since I was saved in 1976. I believe this is the closest to the first church. Everything is local to the individual church. The second church I joined because I moved from Illinois to Arizona, was pastored by a man that left the SBC. He did not talk much about why he left. In the years since my membership in that church, I have heard many things about the SBC and I would never attend a church that is a part of this group. I appreciate the gentleman who made this podcast, and I would tell him that he should leave this convention and join an Independent Baptist Church and get on with learning and living the Bible and follow JESUS and only JESUS!
I left the Independent Baptist movement because of unbiblical legalism and Pharisaical attitudes, and an emphasis and focus on outward actions rather than focusing on the heart loving God that leads to holy living.
Just what is his definition of "the Gospel"? Hmm... Good discussion; thanks.
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. I know because I was one
It was the reason I had depression and anxiety. Man or woman, it will affect you physically, mentally and spiritually.
Scary stuff. I think we should get used to seeing this from our Christian leaders more and more if they want to stay relevant. As it's been said,"Our list of allies grows thin"
It would seem Mohler is a squish. Racism is an individual sin. No program, agenda or resolution has the power to root it out. Only individual reaction to the Gospel has that power. So preach that. CRT is based on the premise that accusation equates to truth. This is the same premise Satan has always operated under.
He lost me years ago when he signed the ECT document years ago- evangelical and Catholics together
From what I have read, Mohler did not sign the ECT.
The titles of Sadiccess and Pharisees comes to mind as these wranglings remind me that we are in the End Times Prophecies spoken of in I and II Timothy and the Book of Revelations, specifically Chapters 2 & 3
Yes, this is helpful.
This reminds me of the folks 100 years ago that came up with the JEDP theory of inspiration. Good guys on some level but slippery, fast and loose with Scripture and also vague with definitions of terms.
If this (racism) is to be the unpardonable sin that no white Christian can overcome and if the popular belief that blacks can’t be racist then you are creating an entire people group that don’t sin and therefore don’t need the gospel. By defining the central problem with humanity as the sin of sins what is not being said is the central essence of sin is against the holy God and therefore there is no need for the gospel.
It was very helpful, thank you
I am convinced by your assessment (Mohler being just an opportunistic conservative) as I already had some question marks in the back of my head before concerning his credibility. He never seemed to be as sincere as John MacArthur (to name just one other prominent evangelical personality). Covid-19 and how churches (seminaries) dealt with it, was revealing too.
I used to distribute his videos for campus crusade for Christ. If Christians don't have the full Gospel then he has to blame himself for bearing no fruit and failing to feed the sheep. By now he should have made a difference however the only difference he has made is to declare the Baptist Church apostate.
CRU is way more liberal than Al Mohler could ever be, and has been for years. It's why I stopped supporting them years ago.
It is a different gospel guys. Be very careful. Read what the Word says about a different gospel. Do not be deceived. He is a politician. So was Ravi sad to say. Maybe Billy Graham also.
Great TH-cam cast series!! Thank you. Suggest for further study. Read Voddie Baucham’ book Fault Lines.
What happened to Mohler? Eating too many bratwursts with Karl Barth?
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. Proverbs 18:17. I wish Mohler would answer clearly these accusations.
Mohler is a Winston Churchill disciple. Not a bad thing to be. But one must realize that Winston was in both parties and supported his principles. Mohler might have taken on Churchill's style of doing politics.
Just a thought....
Mohler may be sitting in a precarious chair. He may indeed be the last bulwark of conservatism in a sea of wolves at SBTS. In order to keep his position perhaps he has to be careful which battles he stands upon.
Thank you for posting.. I so appreciate your discernment... have had concerns about Al Mohler.... He seems to like to straddle the fence....
Frankly i'm surprised it took you so long to get here. Perhaps because I had no idea who he was (being raised Catholic) the first time I saw you showing us some of his statements (perhaps a year and a half ago when i first found you) i thought it was rather odd how much benefit of the doubt you were giving him. Sometimes when you have attachments to people it is hard to clearly see them for who they are. He is simply a con man who talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Thank you for exploring the mechanics of this mess.
Jon,
How much do you think the fact that pastor’s retirement program being supplemented/funded by the cooperative program keeps pastors from being willing to be frank with their congregations on the state of things in the SBC and their leaders. As an example, the church I am a member of left this last year; we however included in our pastor’s package the fee required to sustain his retirement program outside of the SBC/Cooperative Program. It’s maybe a $500 a year penalty we pay for him, but things like this may have minister’s mentality captured in ways that laymen aren’t aware of. Disgusting if true, but not a small matter to be sure. Thoughts?
Talk Dale Walker of Tennessee Pastor’s network. He is bivocational and I’m certain he can help your church not have to waste that $500/yr.
@@nilwon we take care of paying the penalty for him each year so he doesn’t lose any vestment; my point is that there’s a wicked trap built into the cooperative program that at a minimum serves as a tacit anchor point for many of these pastors when their elders/deacons/boards/congregations begin moving for secession from the SBC. Many churches are making line item exclusions for their CP giving as well (i.e. designate that their giving not be distributed to any funding of ERLC, NAMB, SWBTS, etc.. ). The provable psychotic crap the NAMB has been teaching/pushing on their missionary training, the institution of affirmative action in hiring, etc is clear cause for any body to abstain from funding the NAMB. The contrivances built into the whole system of the mission boards, seminaries, and ERLC would have at least 1/3 of the congregations leave in a single year if they earnestly knew of them, I believe. But are pastors doing their people right? Are their people kept abreast of things? How many pastors were going to attend the Pastor’s Conference last year on their church’s dime without disclosing the slate of speakers or even that it was Dr Uth who was hosting?
He's busy shrinking important biblical teachings through his own doctrinal "triage" concept. Seems he's also posturing himself to be the next SBC prez.
I'm looking for the links you mentioned in the "info section" and I am unable to find them. Where are they?
This is sad too because I used to listen to the Briefing while having my first coffee every morning. I want to make sure we are careful because I do see people like him say things and because Social Justice Warriors use some of those same terms then it must mean that it's a knee jerk thing but with Mohler he simply sold out I think he figures it's a dad that will pass away but it's not unless we expose it and get a backbone, not letting them accuse us of racism or let their accusation hurt us because we know they use that as a weapon to silence arguments they cannot defeat.
The irony he represents the place he battled against at the beginning of his life.
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Whats that old Keith Green classic story song where He sings that the Judge in ALL races stand at the FINISH LINE ?
Sure applies here.
My concern with Mohler has always been his Calvinism being crammed down our throats. Thanks for this video. I had no clue about any of these issues.
WAIT. Al Mohler became president of a seminary - at age 33??!! 🤔
Since the convention does not have a legitimate governing relationship, how much can Mohler do anyway?
Refreshing criticism of a man I simply tuned out last year because I thought he made everything harder to understand. He was on a couple of question and answer panels at GTY and Ligonier and everything he said sounded like “yes but!”
Typical compromise by Billy Graham evangelicals.
Fools rush in....A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in airing his opinions. Proverbs 18:2
He didn’t have a spine
There seems to be a lot of hyperbole in this. Things like, "it seems", "not said be implied", and other vague implications. And I see totally different emphasis when DR. Mohler speaks. I just think this guy has a ax to grind with Dr. Mohler. I don't know why. He cherry picks clips to support his view. This is not the Dr. Mohler I have been listening to for the past 10 years. But in the end we really don't know what happened in any of this cases. Only what people say and no one is sinless.
Bro, do you have a condensed version of your podcast? I like what you’re saying, but I’d love a 17 minute version of it.
Anyone else a little bothered that the door wan't completely closed? LOL
My cat came in while I was recording lol
Jon, I was with you all the way til you mentioned your cat. Only one good kind of cat...
Never Trump "Conservative" talk show host Michael Medved was a huge Al Mohler supporter, now he's off the airwaves. Al Mohler will also be gone, at least from conservative circles. Choose your side.
It seems to me that Mohler believes that letting the discussion happen and the truth prevail is a better tactic than stridency. Good for him. Some people seem to have very little confidence that the Gospel will prevail in the end and it produces a great deal of handwringing. I have great confidence in the Gospel. I think Mohler does also. I think I can identify with Mohler a bit here. I tend to think even less of the shrillness of those I agree with than I do of the irrationality and misguidedness of my opponents.
Mohler has bowed the knee to Marx
Some lay-person and natural seer like me needs to teach these Baptist cold water leaders about their actual position-in-Christ!! We are the righteousness of Christ Jesus. How can we have the Mind of Christ and be racist?
Hey, I’m not challenging you, just trying to understand. Are you saying that a Christian can’t have the mind of Christ and still sin?
Has Mohler succumbed to the “zeitgeist?”
Pretty damning evidence.
One can't force multiethnicity...
Al and Russell are 2 men I regret following.
What I don’t get is why are our Shepherds attacking rather than comforting their flocks during a global pandemic? Is this really the time? Seems like psychological abuse to go down this path at this time.
Wut
?? It's a global pandemic, so the shepherds should let the wolves eat the flock instead of attacking them to protect the flock?