I've had my 2024 ID.4 since March (placed the order in January). Maximized all the equipment except for the sport seats which felt very comfortable to my back, but very uncomfortable to my thighs. I'm very satisfied with my choice so far. I love the HUD (#1 reason why I rejected all Teslas), and I absolutely love the panoramic roof, which I wouldn't have ordered if it wasn't bundled in one package with the laminated noise-suppressing windows.
VW, please bring DCC, the seats with thigh extender, and small wheels to the US. We want comfort too! I rented a 2022 RWD with 20” wheels. Those killed the ride and added lots of road noise. Other than that and the weight, I was impressed. The tight turning circle of the RWD was useful.
Great video. I have been driving the ID.4 1:st (Pro) for three years now and enjoy the car very much except the software that so has far been disappointing but I believe in the new hardware and software so I have ordered the new GTX. I have test driven the ID.7 and know roughly what is new but it was still fun to see the new 12.9 inch screen with its new features. I will ask my local VW dealer if they have any ID.4 2024 in stock so I can try it myself. The sad thing is that I have to wait until September for my new GTX.
My ID.5 GTX with all the updates has just finished production and is slowly making it's way to Cyprus. Can't wait.... Thank you for this review. You have made my day!!! What did you think of the steering with the sports package?
For the charger in the navigation software. It would also be nice to have a setting to use only/mainly chargers on the highway. Because now it sometimes sends you to a charger some km's away of the highway
Thanks for really good tests and videos in general. I am missing information on how your tested ID4 Pro is equipped. In particular, I wonder if the tested ID4 has a sports suspension? Lowered? Adjustable chassis? Which rims and tyres are fitted? I have watched some of your videos (very informative videos) but all of them lack the above information. In addition, I would like to see a detailed test of e.g. Skoda Enyaq and Audi Q4 e-tron if you have time one day. Here in Denmark, the Enyaq and ID 4/5 are very popular. The Q4 e-tron is a strange car as it doesn't feel like a ‘premium car’ like other Audis do. FDM, which is the Danish version of your ADAC, only gives 3 out of 6 stars to Q4 against 4 out of 6 stars to ID4/5 and Enyaq! I myself am getting ready for an electric car ... but I want to go down in class as I will soon retire (usually drive approx. 45,000 km / year in Mercedes E-class E220d) and must therefore go out and test drive e.g. ID5, Enyaq, Q4 e-tron, Volvo EX40 as there are probably some hurdles that I have to overcome :-) So thanks again for the great videos and I'd love to know a bit more about the cars' drivetrain and tires :-)
You, my friend, have earned a new subscriber. Thanks for the review. I have learned several new things. Maybe, next year for the 2025 model, because we have the 2023 VW ID.4. God bless,
The 2024 VW ID.4 Pro is an all-electric SUV that comes with a spacious interior, impressive driving range, and advanced technology features. It features a 82 kWh battery pack that delivers an estimated range of up to 300 miles on a single charge. The ID.4 Pro also comes with a 201-horsepower electric motor that provides quick acceleration and a smooth ride. The interior is well-designed and offers plenty of legroom and headroom for passengers. The dashboard features a 10-inch touchscreen infotainment system that comes with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto capabilities. Safety features include adaptive cruise control, forward collision warning, and automatic emergency braking. Overall, the 2024 VW ID.4 Pro is a great choice for anyone looking for a reliable and efficient electric SUV.
I have the older 2023 ID4. I love the car, despite some of the criticism by journalists. The software is stable and the styling and build quality is great. Has a number of advantages over my old Tesla MY IMO.
My daughter has an ID.3 from 2021. Unlike Tesla, it appears VW have no plans to provide meaningful updates. Will more recent ID.4 cars get any of these software updates? If my daughter bought another new VW ID.x, for how long will updates be offered? Your comments about "take the new one" sounds like a VW slogan. How long will it be "the new one"? Thanks for the review.
@@timmurphy5541 I understand that hardware constraints apply. These hardware restraints have impacted 2 and 3 year old VW IDs so there is no comparison with the Tesla range. Tesla recently updated European models 3 and Y with adaptive headlights, as they had thought ahead about fitting the hardware long before they had the approval process completed needed. As someone who has worked in the IT industry for many years, it is evident that VW used low-powered components in their initial systems, saving probably $20 or $30 per car. As a result, early purchasers have faced serious depreciation.
The difference in regen power you're feeling could have to do with the weight and weight transfer. Being a taller vehicle they may have tune it down a bit more for the ID.4 vs 7
The EU spec ID4 looks much better compared to a fully loaded US spec ID4. Does anyone know where retrofit kits are available for things like the AR HUD or the foot motion activated rear hatch, let alone the really attractive options like the DCC and DDC?
Have you tried the 2024 Skoda Enyaq with he same drive train? The danish motor journalist all agree, that the Enyaq is a better buy than the ID4 - mainly because of the exterior styling and the cabin quality.
@@2kMariook but they must do a different between the models. If not VW makes not more profit😢 to bad for them 😂 Because a ID7 cost more and brings VW more profit. If everything would be the same why you should buy a ID 7? OK only if you have a family and need more space ..
@@connclissmann6514Just like other companies do, too, that's the reality... But to be honest, the first edition cars still had good ride quality, etc. At least they didn't made updates that made the experience worse, like Tesla - which at some point removed support for sensors installed in cars, and nerfed autopilot on highways
With the new more powerful drive train and the new cabin quality I only need a real center armrest to sit comfortably and buttons on the steering wheel to return to VW
I've had 2 id.4's the car itself is very well made, but the interior designs, capacitative buttons for everything, has always been trash and this new hand controls are terrible and much worse - not sure how they managed this. and the main letdown of the computer and software being garbage, frankly I'm not expecting much now at all. as been mentioned multiple times, VW should really be making a effort to get their early adopters whole and replace comptuers/software - but given VW management, they're not going to do that.
Unfortunately, I am inclined to agree. I have received one software update since our purchase in February 2023. The only things that I don't like: one, likewise, software could be better a FAR MORE consistent; two, access to the VW Service Center in limited, and that by far is the most frustrating part about ownership for me. Thanks for sharing, and, God bless,
I so want VW to produce a GOOD version of the MEB. My company 2022 Tesla M3LR lease runs out in 18 mths, and I don't like the changes on the current version. If I could have a VAG MEB rwd with the new motor, for a comparable price to the rwd TM3, I'd opt for that over another Tesla. And I genuinely very rarely go out of Chill mode anyway, so 6.5 is absolutely fine to keep my licence...
You say it is the best comfortable SUV. Is this the case, too, if you compare it to the new Skoda Enyaq (2024)? Or is this the same and just a different design?
frankly I agree, we had a first, it got totaled, replaced it with a newer one, it's a phoenomally well made car, but the onboard computer and software is just not good and although they should be replacing them, I don't see VW doing that
Interesting view...the old Hardware still receives Updates...think 3.7 is the latest. And it was always the case for any OEM and car, that new Hardware meant new and better Software, too. As long all Features of a car are working it is OK. A Golf 7 will never get Software of the Golf 8...a Facelift of a BMW gets OS 8.5, but older never. Better than Tesla, which asked for 7500 and never delivered a working Autopilot..and will never work with Vision Only...no USS, no Radar. Even the Rain Sensor and traffic sign recognition is still not working at all.
@@josefv-y8m but the originally released HW/SW for the first 3 model years is essentially defective and frankly dangerous, it's not the issue of switching over from a SU Carb to Weber Carb, it's that the drivers screen goes dead while driving.
@@Harrythehun I have an ID.3 and a model Y Building quality, suspension and stability at higher speeds is better in the VW, but efficiency, software, simplicity, comfort and space is way better in MY
If you don't like... Parking Sensor, Radar, Display at Steering Wheel, Headup, capacitive Steering Wheel, Matrix LED, Really working Rain Sensor, Travel Assist which is at 50 at the beginning of City, DCC etc...a Model Y is for you. If the ID4 would be as naked, without any Feature of a modern car like the Y, it could be 15k cheaper.
The words "best" and "VW" cannot be used in the sam sentence. Had bought new Tiguan 2 years ago and sold it only after 4 months due to reccuring issues with the car. VW made last good car in 2017, from there it only went downhill.
The best *comfortable* SUV 😂. Because Model Y is not comfortable? Well fair enough, the new VWs are great, but when will you test the Renault Scenic then?
Classic VW design failure. Put the gear selector you use once per trip into the space of the wiper stalk, remove functionality on that thing you actually use.
There she is. Outstanding timing here mate, thanks :)
Thanks for your revue with focus on the important things for day-to-day use.
I still have to wait a month for mine to arrive.
And it's the same reasons i bought the id4 4motion 2024 that i'm going to receive next month!
I've had my 2024 ID.4 since March (placed the order in January). Maximized all the equipment except for the sport seats which felt very comfortable to my back, but very uncomfortable to my thighs. I'm very satisfied with my choice so far. I love the HUD (#1 reason why I rejected all Teslas), and I absolutely love the panoramic roof, which I wouldn't have ordered if it wasn't bundled in one package with the laminated noise-suppressing windows.
I like the simplicity of the controls and the panels. Simpler than their Audi counterparts.
VW, please bring DCC, the seats with thigh extender, and small wheels to the US. We want comfort too!
I rented a 2022 RWD with 20” wheels. Those killed the ride and added lots of road noise.
Other than that and the weight, I was impressed. The tight turning circle of the RWD was useful.
Thanks for the update. Do you know if these improvements are coming to ID3 this year. I want all of them, and need to order for December delivery.
I really like how high the rear seats are. It really increases forward visibility for kids and reduces the risk of motion sickness.
Great video. I have been driving the ID.4 1:st (Pro) for three years now and enjoy the car very much except the software that so has far been disappointing but I believe in the new hardware and software so I have ordered the new GTX. I have test driven the ID.7 and know roughly what is new but it was still fun to see the new 12.9 inch screen with its new features. I will ask my local VW dealer if they have any ID.4 2024 in stock so I can try it myself. The sad thing is that I have to wait until September for my new GTX.
So basically you paid 30.000 Euro to have a bigger screen 🤦🤦
@@Greatdane-qf8kd Of course. Among many other things :-)
My ID.5 GTX with all the updates has just finished production and is slowly making it's way to Cyprus. Can't wait.... Thank you for this review. You have made my day!!! What did you think of the steering with the sports package?
For the charger in the navigation software. It would also be nice to have a setting to use only/mainly chargers on the highway. Because now it sometimes sends you to a charger some km's away of the highway
I like your reviews and tests. Keep up doing a great work.
Would be nice a video with your opinion about current state and future of EV's.
Thanks for really good tests and videos in general.
I am missing information on how your tested ID4 Pro is equipped. In particular, I wonder if the tested ID4 has a sports suspension? Lowered? Adjustable chassis? Which rims and tyres are fitted?
I have watched some of your videos (very informative videos) but all of them lack the above information.
In addition, I would like to see a detailed test of e.g. Skoda Enyaq and Audi Q4 e-tron if you have time one day. Here in Denmark, the Enyaq and ID 4/5 are very popular. The Q4 e-tron is a strange car as it doesn't feel like a ‘premium car’ like other Audis do. FDM, which is the Danish version of your ADAC, only gives 3 out of 6 stars to Q4 against 4 out of 6 stars to ID4/5 and Enyaq!
I myself am getting ready for an electric car ... but I want to go down in class as I will soon retire (usually drive approx. 45,000 km / year in Mercedes E-class E220d) and must therefore go out and test drive e.g. ID5, Enyaq, Q4 e-tron, Volvo EX40 as there are probably some hurdles that I have to overcome :-)
So thanks again for the great videos and I'd love to know a bit more about the cars' drivetrain and tires :-)
Hello how do I recognize the new model from old one? What would you chose between the new model and the EV6?
one of signs is that the old version has drive selector on the small display side and new as a lever behind steering wheel
You, my friend, have earned a new subscriber. Thanks for the review. I have learned several new things. Maybe, next year for the 2025 model, because we have the 2023 VW ID.4. God bless,
My ID.3 lease ends in December, eyeing this up...
The 2024 VW ID.4 Pro is an all-electric SUV that comes with a spacious interior, impressive driving range, and advanced technology features. It features a 82 kWh battery pack that delivers an estimated range of up to 300 miles on a single charge. The ID.4 Pro also comes with a 201-horsepower electric motor that provides quick acceleration and a smooth ride. The interior is well-designed and offers plenty of legroom and headroom for passengers. The dashboard features a 10-inch touchscreen infotainment system that comes with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto capabilities. Safety features include adaptive cruise control, forward collision warning, and automatic emergency braking. Overall, the 2024 VW ID.4 Pro is a great choice for anyone looking for a reliable and efficient electric SUV.
I have the older 2023 ID4. I love the car, despite some of the criticism by journalists. The software is stable and the styling and build quality is great. Has a number of advantages over my old Tesla MY IMO.
My daughter has an ID.3 from 2021. Unlike Tesla, it appears VW have no plans to provide meaningful updates. Will more recent ID.4 cars get any of these software updates? If my daughter bought another new VW ID.x, for how long will updates be offered? Your comments about "take the new one" sounds like a VW slogan. How long will it be "the new one"? Thanks for the review.
The id3 has had updates but some features need updated hardware so there is a limit. Even Tesla went through phases like this.
@@timmurphy5541 I understand that hardware constraints apply. These hardware restraints have impacted 2 and 3 year old VW IDs so there is no comparison with the Tesla range. Tesla recently updated European models 3 and Y with adaptive headlights, as they had thought ahead about fitting the hardware long before they had the approval process completed needed. As someone who has worked in the IT industry for many years, it is evident that VW used low-powered components in their initial systems, saving probably $20 or $30 per car. As a result, early purchasers have faced serious depreciation.
The 2021 ID.3 is still amazing.
It must be good. The wife and I love our 2023 ID4.
Which one would you choose, ID.4 MY24 or Enyaq 85? Why?
wow they kept the daft touch buttons, i'm glad i didn't wait for this update. My old ID4 was a nightmare
I am confused, 3.2 already has the ability to only use Ionity chargers, they removed that for 4.0?
My Irish spec one has just arrived.
The difference in regen power you're feeling could have to do with the weight and weight transfer. Being a taller vehicle they may have tune it down a bit more for the ID.4 vs 7
Excellent review .
this car now only needs battery capacity bump similar to Ioniq 5 refresh... 80+ kWh usable would make it great
77->79 kWh?
Lack of buffer would accelerate degradation surely?
The EU spec ID4 looks much better compared to a fully loaded US spec ID4. Does anyone know where retrofit kits are available for things like the AR HUD or the foot motion activated rear hatch, let alone the really attractive options like the DCC and DDC?
I saw and heard that the 2024 ID4 standard not got all new updates only only the the ID4 with the bigger battery, is this true??
Thank you for your nice review of iD.4 Pro 2024, i miss something, weight empty of the car ?
Have you tried the 2024 Skoda Enyaq with he same drive train? The danish motor journalist all agree, that the Enyaq is a better buy than the ID4 - mainly because of the exterior styling and the cabin quality.
More expensive. Better interior, but you pay extra for it, and wait longer...
I think this model has the 12.5inch info screen. I think I would prefer the 15inch screen from the ID7.
15'' screen should be a standard in this car , it is only less than 30 euro more cost
Why do you need 15 " if the software doesn't even allow you to use Netflix or TH-cam?
Eh? Supports apple car play and android auto, so you can play both. When stopped....
@@jellyd4889how can you use TH-cam or Netflix via Android Auto? 😮
@@2kMariook but they must do a different between the models. If not VW makes not more profit😢 to bad for them 😂 Because a ID7 cost more and brings VW more profit. If everything would be the same why you should buy a ID 7? OK only if you have a family and need more space ..
Glad VW made their homework, FINALLY!
They left the early buyers behind, though.
@@connclissmann6514Just like other companies do, too, that's the reality... But to be honest, the first edition cars still had good ride quality, etc.
At least they didn't made updates that made the experience worse, like Tesla - which at some point removed support for sensors installed in cars, and nerfed autopilot on highways
Hi Chris thx for the video ,does the id4 has heads-up/travel assist as a standard??
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Heads? How many do you have? 😂
No, it's an additional package (in Germany two different options)
All the new updates are what it was missing to be able to compete with TMY at the first place! Now it's only the matter of price!
A shame we can’t get battery heating, navigate to a charger etc when using google maps. The built in navigation isn’t as good.
Can you replace the glossy steering button?
nope ... it's a ID.x haptic touch control (may be except ID.7, I'm not sure)
I've rented both of them but given that you drive these cars a lot, how would you compare the noise, vibration, harshness to the Ioniq 5?
With the new more powerful drive train and the new cabin quality I only need a real center armrest to sit comfortably and buttons on the steering wheel to return to VW
Is DCC worth the money? Really does anything important? I did not felt like any difference in ID7. Is it comfortable enough without DCC?
The speedwarning: can you switch it off permanently? Or do you have to turn it off again each time you start the car?
If you live in Europe you need to turn if off everytime you start the car (it is just legally required)
I've had 2 id.4's the car itself is very well made, but the interior designs, capacitative buttons for everything, has always been trash and this new hand controls are terrible and much worse - not sure how they managed this. and the main letdown of the computer and software being garbage, frankly I'm not expecting much now at all. as been mentioned multiple times, VW should really be making a effort to get their early adopters whole and replace comptuers/software - but given VW management, they're not going to do that.
I used it with capacitattive buttons and it was fine. This is a wildly overblown complaint.
Eh? The software is fine. OTA updates make the old version work ok. Interior quality is meh, true.
@@timmurphy5541 I'm glad you got good one, mine are crap, unresponsive and offer no feedback. yet they take ghost inputs all the time.
The capacitive buttons are just fine.
Unfortunately, I am inclined to agree. I have received one software update since our purchase in February 2023. The only things that I don't like: one, likewise, software could be better a FAR MORE consistent; two, access to the VW Service Center in limited, and that by far is the most frustrating part about ownership for me. Thanks for sharing, and, God bless,
Great content. Thanks for sharing!
Hopefully it doesn't have LG batteries anymore. My 2021 is currently in the service department having modules replaced for the second time.
I so want VW to produce a GOOD version of the MEB. My company 2022 Tesla M3LR lease runs out in 18 mths, and I don't like the changes on the current version. If I could have a VAG MEB rwd with the new motor, for a comparable price to the rwd TM3, I'd opt for that over another Tesla. And I genuinely very rarely go out of Chill mode anyway, so 6.5 is absolutely fine to keep my licence...
I prefer the 2024 Skoda Enyaq Coupe 4wd Sportline. Gonna order it in July.
You say it is the best comfortable SUV. Is this the case, too, if you compare it to the new Skoda Enyaq (2024)? Or is this the same and just a different design?
Best EV 👍
The bests are the Teslas.
Good Seat upgrade but i realy dislike the brown dash.
stil haptic feedback controls
At least here it cheaper than the Enyaq (what a world!!!)
Great review, but I am worried that you're driving on the wrong side of the road.
Why they dont use fabric in the doors, and seat sides and back instead of cheapo plastic leather, is a mystery. The new id3 door cards are better.
VW is the best
It just need the new Passat steering wheel buttons. Then I am ready to return to VW... after upgrading my former E-Golf to another brand...
I hope they really have resolved all software problems, bugs, ... It was awful and only gets sh*t for Volkswagen.
vw has abandoned the original owners of these cars. would have zero trust on support going forward.
frankly I agree, we had a first, it got totaled, replaced it with a newer one, it's a phoenomally well made car, but the onboard computer and software is just not good and although they should be replacing them, I don't see VW doing that
Interesting view...the old Hardware still receives Updates...think 3.7 is the latest. And it was always the case for any OEM and car, that new Hardware meant new and better Software, too. As long all Features of a car are working it is OK. A Golf 7 will never get Software of the Golf 8...a Facelift of a BMW gets OS 8.5, but older never.
Better than Tesla, which asked for 7500 and never delivered a working Autopilot..and will never work with Vision Only...no USS, no Radar.
Even the Rain Sensor and traffic sign recognition is still not working at all.
That’s why I changed my ID3 with a Tesla
@@josefv-y8m but the originally released HW/SW for the first 3 model years is essentially defective and frankly dangerous, it's not the issue of switching over from a SU Carb to Weber Carb, it's that the drivers screen goes dead while driving.
Best support is the one you don't need 😊
If VW and Tesla make an Electric SUV it will be the perfect one :D
VW contribute with turning indicator stalks, rest would be Tesla
@@Harrythehun I have an ID.3 and a model Y
Building quality, suspension and stability at higher speeds is better in the VW, but efficiency, software, simplicity, comfort and space is way better in MY
VW and Ford make one 😇
@@HarrythehunEpic comment. So truth. 😊
Still the Model Y.
I’m torn between ID4 and the Ford copy of this. The ford looks a bit nicer and has gtx power under 60k€
Take the VW if you want to have any real SW support etc.
21 min review, 14 min spent with the controls and infotainment.. maybe that is how it is nowadays.
7:13 How is it allowed to sound like a Porsche Taycan? 🤯
Because Porsche is part of the Volkswagen group (and vice versa)
@@fgerstm2069 VW Porsche revival 😅
Now all they have to do is to reduce the price a little bit more and we are done. I still think Tesla Y is better than ID.4 for the price.
If you don't like... Parking Sensor, Radar, Display at Steering Wheel, Headup, capacitive Steering Wheel, Matrix LED, Really working Rain Sensor, Travel Assist which is at 50 at the beginning of City, DCC etc...a Model Y is for you.
If the ID4 would be as naked, without any Feature of a modern car like the Y, it could be 15k cheaper.
@@josefv-y8m The biggest downside of the Model Y is the suspension. It's just terrible.
Tesla ride is too harsh. ID 4 is one of the most sold EV in Europe and it s understandable. Most older People go for the ID 4.
I hope you are getting paid by VW. You do a much better job of communicating than they do!😂😂
The Enyaq 85 is a better buy and car. Especially the L&K version.
We don't get that nice blue anymore. 😑
Still the "Shitty" LG Chem battery?
The words "best" and "VW" cannot be used in the sam sentence. Had bought new Tiguan 2 years ago and sold it only after 4 months due to reccuring issues with the car. VW made last good car in 2017, from there it only went downhill.
The best *comfortable* SUV 😂. Because Model Y is not comfortable? Well fair enough, the new VWs are great, but when will you test the Renault Scenic then?
Yeah, I also want to see the Scenic
Model Y is a toy.
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Ridiculous they don’t update the old ids. Never would I buy a VW. The software is just garbage.
Classic VW design failure. Put the gear selector you use once per trip into the space of the wiper stalk, remove functionality on that thing you actually use.
MEB platform is still rubbish...
Umm...no.
Tesla is just better!
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Same old software new skin.
New hardware, new software
So? It works.