@@Rinacgolf I would say allow any character class to make the switch. That's how it was in WotLK. We've seen death knights in retail WoW who were mages and priests before becoming death knights.
Same, didn’t play for 5+ years but with all runes at lvl 1 I wanted to give it a go and it’s much better, the whole game experience gets imo destroyed with the boring lvling, but many classic players seem not to agree, sod made this far better with runes and now it’s not so hard to level anymore IMO
The idea of sacrificing your character to become a death knight was confirmed by Kevin Jordan in an interview a few years back. It’d take me forever to find it but he definitely said it was their original intention but ultimately decided against it
Idk if I’m just being dumb but I feel like people who wanted classic plus didn’t want 5 different difficulties at that point why not just play retail and do LFR, N, H, and M
it's much different. in retail the higher the difficulty, the better the gear. in sod, you get the same gear regardless. any change to gear you'd get from a harder difficulty is purely cosmetic. hard mode in sod adds quantity, not quality. you get a couple more pieces of loot and "cooler" looking wepons. so the casual player doesn't ever get fomo or feel behind as far as power level.
bro people speedrun in classic just to have a "harder experience" i dont get why would u complain about 5 different difficulties if the drop is the fucking same, let everyone enjoy the game at their own rhythm
After playing classic and loving the game world in its original form Sod is refreshing. Making the classic world new again is better than playing the same classic for a 5th time.
@@dancinglight8411 boosting trivialized leveling in vanilla anyway, i do agree they should get rid of the EXP buff per phase if they do relaunch SoD though
There is definetly a bright future for classic+ and I hope for the best but SOD aint it we got to many runes/abilities/power. I would love to see the next season like SOD, but with less power so we dont do fricking 7-8k dps...
They need to make new wow from the end of classic. Make scarlet crusade expansion Make bloodsaol buccaneers expansion Nesingwary expension Then add scarlet crusade as faction and make a new raid for scarlat crusader
@@powercheifit's phenomenal. All the runes. Fast leveling. 5 end game raids open and being ran everyday. 2 on bi weekly lockout and 3 on weekly lockout. Having a blast. Mage finally good again!
What stops me from playing is not knowing what will happen with SoD eventually. My guess is there's gonna be a new Classic+ thing with new servers, so I don't really want to put any effort in any characters in SoD, I'll just wait for the big thing
They literally have said numerous times now that there will be a place to play your SoD characters anytime you want (SoD era servers) once SoD content is over. How are you ppl still not knowing this ??
@@DaFreezeey Okay but they also hinted several times at SoD being an experimantation for a future Classic+ thing (which is kinda obvious). So meaning: okay we might have SoD era realms to play our SoD characters, but who the fuck wants to play it once Classic+ comes out?
@@krizaxe1 Thats IF classic + comes out. Everyone thought they were going to announce it at this years blizzcon thing (i forget what they called it) and guess what... No announcement. So now we wait another year. If it does eventually come out. Then so what. You have Classic + and then you have your SoD toons on their own servers. OR... SoD has been the actual Classic + all along and everyone is waiting around for a ghost when the actual game they wanted has been here this entire time...
Having to level to 55 to sacrifice for a death knight is a beautiful idea. Would give incentive for people to reroll and repopulate low level zones (i understand a lot will just ask for boosts... that's still an incentive for boosters to log geared characters and make gold). If they keep adding fresh waves of content, within the world of azeroth, in that kind of fashion... would be amazing. Keep looking for incentives to reroll / travel the world
I think having to sacrifice a character to play a death knight is a genius fucking idea. The decision has weight and is super cool. If you see Death Knights running around you know those players made a sacrifice.
As someone who has played Classic, Hardcore, Retail for the past 10 years, I find SOD way more engaging. I am tired of the same ole content for classic or retail acrade type feeling where nothing matter but m+ and Raid. SOD runes changing classes has me playing to 60 and wanting to creat alts. I'm happy if they keep this path of death knights and brand new raids.
The only thing that can save Wow classic is Reset every few years. People reached goals by now, the game is stagnated. Community getting smaller, the ones who left playing became grumpy and disatisfied. All while refusing reset, fearing to lose their progress to reset. That's how Classic slowly dying, and no amount of SOD is going to save it.
I've always talked about the Idea of people needing to sac a character to make a DK, I wanted them to do that initially. Also waiting for WoW2 and Half-Life 3 :p
definitely worth checking out if you haven’t yet, XP gains are boosted by 150% and gold is boosted by 300% from quests. you also can get all runes for your character in every starting zone for one copper each so it makes leveling even faster. only issue is the economy is severely inflated at least on the server Crusader Strike and makes the AH pretty much unusable for someone starting fresh.
sod is 10/10 fun for normal working people. all classes and speccs just blasting. every guild is recruiting every class. super easy to rank now in pvp with more honor gains.
Everyone know SoD is classic + beta. Not sure why you saying saying this in your video. It’s been clear since day one. People are leveling again with the rune changes made and after experiencing the horrific leveling in Fresh/HC. Now’s the time to level if you are interested in playing. The difficult is to PREVENT speed clearing toxicity. This was a poison in Era and the reason the whole 15+ warriors in raid meta became a thing. Now, you will need to bring different classes to succeed in the new Hard Modes in SoD
I can't bring myself to return to SoD, the new rune changes are just way too little way too late for me. Actually kind of pisses me off they didn't do it 6months ago.
The new rune changes? You like being handed all your runes and having no class fantasy and progression feel? God, you people are the kind of brainlets who enjoying cheating in games and then wonder why the game isn’t fun anymore.
If they do add Death knights, I'd like to see them also add the Tauren Paladins and Dwarven Shaman. I don't want to see Goblins or Worgen but maybe open up Trolls and Humans or Dwarves to be Druids. Seasonal Servers are NOT Vanilla/Classic. Blizzard has already added expansion abilities via Runes. Not a lot of point in having Faction specific Classes. I'd also love to see them add a vendor or to a vendor's loot table the ability to buy quest related cooking recipes. Maybe you can't buy the recipe after you finish the quest or can only buy it if you do finish the quest. There is a ton of Trade Good loot that is basically locked to one faction or the other. Very few are willing to sell those recipes on the Neutral Auction House when it means leveling alts or going without it on a character.
I don't see why they just didn't go in the direction of a pre TBC patch era with SoD and just extend it into Azeroth... They could have actually made it really good instead of making ot feel like retail.@@stagnacja1
@@Az00069 Rogues have a freaking teleport at level 1. That is NOT the same game. Also I never played past level 30 but the most common complaint about SoD I've heard from others is how terrible the class balance is.
idk i liked it at first but it just felt like it was to far removed from the original. im enjoying anniversary more then i did the SoD. Idk how many people are on SoD, but anniversary has tons of toons all level ranges.
If you enjoy fun and much more variety than vanilla then yes it's a great time to jump back to SoD. Rune vendor added with all runes to purchase for 1 copper each and lots of people leveling currently.
SoD has 62k players, Fresh has 20k players and Era has 10k players. So yes, SoD is very much alive and well. Wild Growth US alone has the entire Classic Era population and 50% of the population of Fresh. HC is only perceived as alot because of the Streamers but that will die down once people start dying in MC.
I wouldn't hold your breath for anything bigger than what we have come to expect with sod end game. I just hope they release an actually functioning raid tier this time.
I love the people clowning on SoD, yall funny. SoD is meant to be their testing on what they could do for a classic+, basically the beta for it. Bringing in the runes to polish the classes (everything from bc-wrath) that made these classes better to play then they were in classic. The harder raids is to bring in new players from retail to get more people playing that version of their games. But besides all of that, id love for them to add a new version of the dk it would be nice to see what theyll do for it.
I agree with you on most of the insight. However, the harder raids are to prevent the toxic speed clearing meta that infected Classic Era from infecting SoD. Speed clearing was starting to impact SoD in P1, P2 and P3 but with the difficulty levels, it finally died in P4. It was extremely difficult for players to get in raid prior to P4 because that dam meta was prevent certain classes from participating. Now, every class is able to participate and you can't just roll in a raid and avoid mechanics (especially in AQ40). People advocated for 1 difficulty but the problem with that is if you have just 1 difficulty, people will naturally created their own difficulty (aka the speed clearing challenge) to differentiate who is the best among the players.
I'm super torn meta. I have a level 47 hunter in classic anniversary but I do want to go back and see phase 7. I feel like I can level really fast with e XP boost and runes. Tell me which one should I play?!?!?
Think of it this way, there will always be normal classic to go back to (private servers + anniversary realms, etc…) but there will not always be a modified classic with the large population SOD currently has. Choose the one you can’t experience later
Really depends to be honest. My guild is in hard raid log mode. Most log in once a week for AQ then either log off till reset or are playing fresh. But that's just my guild. I know some people are still ranking and gaming on SoD
@@kyoden1928 probably not. The guild im in is a different beast than my SoD guild. On anniversary we got 2 full MC raid teams with over 50 unique sign ups for MC and Ony. Most days they got 70ish players online. My SoD guild just doesn't have the same numbers. We will see what happens in a month or so but classic degens will always be classic degens.
If you can’t see that sod is classic + and you can’t see that it’s the only new classic content available to play. Then your brain dead sheep that just follows the masses.
Blizzard is abusing its player base. Release multiple versions of the game and having them shuffle between them with new releases, only for the that versions to die out after 1-2months of releasing another version. This is how they keep players subscribed. Instead of people unsubbing when they get bored, they are exploiting the hype and excitement of new releases. The issue is the game is not long term and sustainable. Player base is fragmented. And the world often feels empty in every version.
Are they really "abusing" their player base by offering plenty of options within the subscription? If players are enjoying the various versions-like Retail, Classic, Season of Discovery, Plunderstorm, or Remix-and mixing them up as they please, how is that a bad thing? For $15, you’re getting access to several games instead of just one. That’s a clear upside. Even if you’re not interested in the other versions, others might be. And if someone isn’t enjoying the game, they can simply unsubscribe. If they can’t, then they're addicted, and they weren’t approaching the game in a healthy way to begin with. Blizzard offering more value for the same price shouldn’t be criticized just because some players would keep playing no matter what. Those players aren’t the majority driving the game’s evolution. It's players who spend their time wisely, and only play when it is fun for them to do so, and they saw that and their margins-this is the anwster to that, and a good one. As for fragmenting the player base-it’s irrelevant. I don’t play Retail because I’m not interested, not because other versions exist. Removing options wouldn’t create a more unified player base; it would just mean fewer players overall.
Nah. It’s too late to redeem SoD which is too far gone at this point. It will never be the coveted Classic+ even when pulling out the big cards in terms of lore and the requested Scarlet raid. For that reason I actually see this as a bad thing, being wasted on SoD sadly.
Everyone wanted classic+ and its been here since season of discovery and they are now keeping servers open not ending them. All the while people have been asking for classic+ 😂😂😂😂😂😂. You morons this is it and you have fkn missed the start 😅😅😅😅
I'm on a locked low pop SoD realm, The Lash. RestedXP has one of the better responsive rare trackers. It often signals a rare well before the other rare scanners imo anyways. And the free version RXP scanner works with all rares of any level. On locked realms rare hunting is a simple meta. And every morning, every rare, every where, are up and waiting for you. Like deer standing in a field. And rested xp is the best co-pilot for wrangling them all. RXP is a well built traveling companion for a quick 1 to 60 journey.
They said many times we get to keep our characters in some form. Most likely SoD era permanent servers. It's also possible they just keep adding content to it, and it's Blizzards version of classic+
Really wish they’d add new content to anniversary realms and not SOD. don’t need SOD runes giving us copies of tbc and wotlk abilities..Most players want classic with new content and minor changes/updates like paladin taunt and hots/dots crits
yea man i want a third talent so i can fit in a third holy spec for my paladin wohoo, and they should give boomy less CD on mana pots so i can pump 10 extra dps for my warriors
I think they're trying to make things more accessible because SoD is going to end soon. The logic being, well it's about to end so might as well let people go crazy with runes, and it's something people have been asking for a while. I don't think they would so nonchalant about adding bugs into the game (the rune purchase warning) and removing all the rune quest content if SoD was going to continue. Expecting SoD to continue after the next phase is probably just cope, but I expect them to do another season later on.
Word. It emptied the world for the xp train. Plus seed thing. Then the vendor had gear that was basically the gear you'd get in the raid. Since everyone else did I xp in irsuon train. Got all the vendor gear. Ran a raid twice. No upgrades in gear. Quit
They did for a small period in SoD's life span... Then Phase 4, 5 and 6 came out and the game has been WORLDS better. If you are so smol brained enough to let one mistake in a game that has many phases, ruin it all for you. Then good. I'm glad you are gone. Stay gone.
@ It’s not a matter of skill, it’s a matter of being accessible to the majority of the player base . This is why sod tanked . People have jobs and a life , not everyone is a streamer .
@Rinacgolf My dad guild got it done in 2hrs on hm this week. Idk how much more accessible it can be when the only mechanics are "switch target", "stack", "don't stack", and "decurse"
@@Rinacgolf bro this is such a horrific take, I’m in an okay guild, cleared hard mode AQ in an hour and 15 mins. Full time job, friends other hobbies and raid log sod once a week, it’s literally the most casual friendly easy game there is. Streamers aren’t even playing sod, nothing you’ve said is even close to true
@@jayv9073incursions haven't really been a thing in 6 months dude. Get over it. Bots are what ruin every version of WoW. Incursions were at most like taking the highway instead of the scenic route. There are tons of people out in the open world again. Open world PvP is popping every where you go.
So sick of the rested xp shit. How about or promote things that are free.m I’ve been playing for fifteen years blizzard has made enough money and so have you.
SoD is retail- NOT classic+ most of SoD is retail mechanics. classic+ correctly should be an unchanged game mechanically and class abilities. just add in the stuff that vanilla never got content wise, not make up something that has no connection to classic, for instance all the quest lines and NPCs in vanilla/classic that just never went anywhere or are unfinished, thats the + not retail. i swear SoD andies dont even realize they are just playing retail with a classic skin.
Remember EVERYTHING in SoD npc wise story wise, is suppose to just fill in the gaps or add references into vanilla to future things. Some of these things might not be unfinished or not go anywhere, but simply references to future things, or just simply nods to things that are small.
You clearly don't play retail. Retail is actually fun and has an infinite amount of things to do at all times. The only similarities between SoD and retail are some of the abilities and having multiple raid difficulties.
@@drjjloveman SoD is Classic +, What you are asking for is Classic with new content. Thats not Classic +. Classic has horrible class designs and quality of life aspects. BC was miles ahead of Classic in this area. Its quite clear you are a Classic Andy with your mindset but guess what you have TWO version of the game you can play Classic Era or Classic Fresh. Unfortunately, both combine have less player base than SoD.
@@andrew2616 uhh. Homie what game are you playing because Fresh 100% has more players than SoD it’s not even a debate. Than era sure SoD has more but definitely not more than Fresh.
I wouldn’t come back to SoD if they paid me to play. This current dev team needs to go! The people who like SoD started in cata or later and don’t know what makes a game good anyway. 12 million down to 60K.
@@UnCtmare So true bro!! I love playing the exact same game with 0 changes I´ve been playing since 20 years ago! And if I wanted changes, I want something very small like... Like Karazhan!
so new instanced content yadyada. well well.... what about: bringing ghostlands with bloodelf and draenei and exodar, theres no flying in the zones, its not that hard. bring ZA as 10 man raid with time runs. thats like zero effort but nice content. for me sod still 10/10 game. best version since legion
@kyoden1928 figures a sod fan boy struggles to even quote correctly, sod sucks and the sod players are the worst, that's another thing that put everyone off on sod, it was toxic af, but cope harder like reality doesn't exist, upset responding to all the posts that say sod sucks still won't make you correct.
@@kyoden1928 Is that what you and the other 14 sod players tell each other? Dude i remember the blizz forums and the denial/cope from shamans/horde at the start of the downfall of sod and how everyone of them said there we were stupid, git gud and blah blah blah for having concerns and saying if it wasnt fixed sod would die... nothing got fixed and the game is dead like we said and the same copium is still happening apparently.
@@LC-zk5ri theres no "cope" if the game is "dead" that means anniversary fresh is dead on arrival as well cuz it has less activity per week than SoD lmao, but yea keep cope up man enjoy ur "leveling" experience until boost happens and everyone quits cuz the game is just boring
Classic plus should be 60-80 leveling takes as long as 1-60 to get from 60-80. Add 2 more rows of talents in the same talent tree that's available now. Add two races Add two classes not necessarily ones in retail.
Deathknights are kind of hard to see in SOD, you sacrafice your character and with the exp bonus your back to level 60 in ... a day. But i guess your gear and mounts are gone. You can just transfer money and and big BOEs to an alt. And i know a TONNNNNN of players where asking for account wide rep.
What i think blizzard should do is scrap the whole idea of SoD being a seasonal server and turn it into full blown classic+ by maybe adding Death Knights and just continuing to add new content to Classic
Adding death knights but requiring people to sacrifice a level 55+ character would be a good way to make players weigh the pros and cons.
They should make it so paladins can choose to become death knights .
@@Rinacgolf Paladins and warriors so it's not alliance locked
@@Rinacgolf I would say allow any character class to make the switch. That's how it was in WotLK. We've seen death knights in retail WoW who were mages and priests before becoming death knights.
Good bye warrior hello death Knight.
I don't think DKs should be in the game at all. They ruin the pvp experience. They are what Brig was to Overwatch in wow.
Making you sacrifice a geared lvl 60 somehow would make it so fucking sick
Yup with a max GS of 900 at least
@@Turtlemilkgearscore isn’t a thing in classic
if you are a cave dweller sure...
@@suprementmgr3586 Yea I don't want free shit. I want hard things to work towards. Naxx would fucking suck if everyone could do it
@@MikeyJ28it totally is…. It’s just dumb lol
Sod is peak wow for me. I have so much fun. Just started lvling another alt druid with all runes at lvl 1 its just busted 😂👍🏻
I’m leveling a Druid right now, it is indeed busted 😂
Same, didn’t play for 5+ years but with all runes at lvl 1 I wanted to give it a go and it’s much better, the whole game experience gets imo destroyed with the boring lvling, but many classic players seem not to agree, sod made this far better with runes and now it’s not so hard to level anymore IMO
Same here bro. Played rogue since 2005 and this is PEAK Rogue gameplay. Now recently leveled a Resto sham alt and having a blast!
The idea of sacrificing your character to become a death knight was confirmed by Kevin Jordan in an interview a few years back. It’d take me forever to find it but he definitely said it was their original intention but ultimately decided against it
Idk if I’m just being dumb but I feel like people who wanted classic plus didn’t want 5 different difficulties at that point why not just play retail and do LFR, N, H, and M
it's much different. in retail the higher the difficulty, the better the gear. in sod, you get the same gear regardless. any change to gear you'd get from a harder difficulty is purely cosmetic. hard mode in sod adds quantity, not quality. you get a couple more pieces of loot and "cooler" looking wepons. so the casual player doesn't ever get fomo or feel behind as far as power level.
We want everything thats new. DK in classic would be sick, bring it on, you dont have to play it if you dont want to.
@@TeamAYBUntil crybabies will force Blizzard to turn it retail-like.
bro people speedrun in classic just to have a "harder experience" i dont get why would u complain about 5 different difficulties if the drop is the fucking same, let everyone enjoy the game at their own rhythm
Yep one of the main reasons I quit SOD. If this is their vision of classic plus count me out.
After playing classic and loving the game world in its original form Sod is refreshing. Making the classic world new again is better than playing the same classic for a 5th time.
the open world was completely trivialized due to the leveling mechanics they added.
Yeah SoD blows plain vanilla out of the water. Level up raids, runes, better class balance. It's better in every way 👍
@@dancinglight8411 boosting trivialized leveling in vanilla anyway, i do agree they should get rid of the EXP buff per phase if they do relaunch SoD though
YOU can do that yourself now. Just go to any innkeeper and turn your exp buff off. That was always in SoD since day one.@@kyoden1928
There is definetly a bright future for classic+ and I hope for the best but SOD aint it we got to many runes/abilities/power. I would love to see the next season like SOD, but with less power so we dont do fricking 7-8k dps...
I would sacrifice my paladin to make it a death knight
still super busy on the servers that they funneled everyone into. Wild growth and crusader strike
BETRAYER OF THE LIGHT
They need to make new wow from the end of classic. Make scarlet crusade expansion
Make bloodsaol buccaneers expansion
Nesingwary expension
Then add scarlet crusade as faction and make a new raid for scarlat crusader
Terrible advice. You have no idea what you’re on about.
I just got back into sod today I have a lvl 50 hunter and 45 mage wish me luck lol everyone’s so geared but f it, it looks fun
SOD is the best version of classic wow . People who left game after bad phase 3 may regret it now .
Hardly
i agree is the best version
hardcore is the best
Yeah right. TBC is the #1 version of WoW.
Played Sod since day1 and its by far best adventure i had in wow
dont tell me sod will be classic+ ....
That's exactly what it is. What possibly could be different than sod that would be classic +? Another raid or two?
It is classic+ .. that’s exactly what it is
It's still more retail minus
than it is classic +
@@t-money8572 SoD is too radically different from Classic to be called Classic plus. Hundreds of new abilities at level 1? That's retail
@@Tartersauce101 hundreds of abilities yeah. hundreds dude. literally hundreds
still feels hard to come back after being gone, the rune merchant is a year too late , too bad.
Is mommy still spoon feeding you?
Year? So all runes should have been purchasable at level 1 in starting zone at SoD launch? Heh.
Its now the best time to play. You get access to all the runes now to play with.
@@powercheifit's phenomenal. All the runes. Fast leveling. 5 end game raids open and being ran everyday. 2 on bi weekly lockout and 3 on weekly lockout. Having a blast. Mage finally good again!
Right now is LITERALLY the best time to play again. Like for actually fucking real.
Do you think SOD would be less dead if they were more upfront about sod getting into classic +?
Yes. This is literally most people’s hangup with SoD… the unknown of whether they’re actually going to go Classic+ with it or not.
What stops me from playing is not knowing what will happen with SoD eventually. My guess is there's gonna be a new Classic+ thing with new servers, so I don't really want to put any effort in any characters in SoD, I'll just wait for the big thing
They literally have said numerous times now that there will be a place to play your SoD characters anytime you want (SoD era servers) once SoD content is over. How are you ppl still not knowing this ??
@@DaFreezeey Okay but they also hinted several times at SoD being an experimantation for a future Classic+ thing (which is kinda obvious). So meaning: okay we might have SoD era realms to play our SoD characters, but who the fuck wants to play it once Classic+ comes out?
@@krizaxe1 Thats IF classic + comes out. Everyone thought they were going to announce it at this years blizzcon thing (i forget what they called it) and guess what... No announcement. So now we wait another year. If it does eventually come out. Then so what. You have Classic + and then you have your SoD toons on their own servers. OR... SoD has been the actual Classic + all along and everyone is waiting around for a ghost when the actual game they wanted has been here this entire time...
@@krizaxe1 They never gonna do classic+ its a pipe dream played up streamers and youtubers for content. SOD is their version of classic+.
@@krizaxe1 SoD IS the classic+ dude this is all we're getting lol
Having to level to 55 to sacrifice for a death knight is a beautiful idea. Would give incentive for people to reroll and repopulate low level zones (i understand a lot will just ask for boosts... that's still an incentive for boosters to log geared characters and make gold). If they keep adding fresh waves of content, within the world of azeroth, in that kind of fashion... would be amazing. Keep looking for incentives to reroll / travel the world
I think having to sacrifice a character to play a death knight is a genius fucking idea. The decision has weight and is super cool. If you see Death Knights running around you know those players made a sacrifice.
I dropped out at level 40, should I go back to SoD?
SAME
Worth it to go back
This is peak vanilla wow tbh
As someone who has played Classic, Hardcore, Retail for the past 10 years, I find SOD way more engaging. I am tired of the same ole content for classic or retail acrade type feeling where nothing matter but m+ and Raid. SOD runes changing classes has me playing to 60 and wanting to creat alts. I'm happy if they keep this path of death knights and brand new raids.
DKs in SoD is not going to happen. I think it would hype af though and I’d love to see it.
I would love to see a level 60 lateral to Nax outland + new content and a reimagined way to get around w.o flying mounts in Outland honestly
Dear Metagoblin,
what background music you use in your video? which game?
The only thing that can save Wow classic is Reset every few years. People reached goals by now, the game is stagnated. Community getting smaller, the ones who left playing became grumpy and disatisfied. All while refusing reset, fearing to lose their progress to reset. That's how Classic slowly dying, and no amount of SOD is going to save it.
they will add the stuff your talking about then progress into burning crusade and proceed to fuck it up and everyone will quit XD
I've always talked about the Idea of people needing to sac a character to make a DK, I wanted them to do that initially. Also waiting for WoW2 and Half-Life 3 :p
Aww, man , i wannabe on the Scarlet Crusader side, not fight em .
Is it worth starting season of discovery now?
definitely worth checking out if you haven’t yet, XP gains are boosted by 150% and gold is boosted by 300% from quests. you also can get all runes for your character in every starting zone for one copper each so it makes leveling even faster. only issue is the economy is severely inflated at least on the server Crusader Strike and makes the AH pretty much unusable for someone starting fresh.
sod is 10/10 fun for normal working people. all classes and speccs just blasting. every guild is recruiting every class. super easy to rank now in pvp with more honor gains.
Well pretty much everyone seems to have rolled a new alt since the runes dropped in starting areas, so I would say yeah :)
@@bestjal654 every guild is recruiting every class because the playerbase for SOD is so low they need everything lmao
no
Everyone know SoD is classic + beta. Not sure why you saying saying this in your video. It’s been clear since day one.
People are leveling again with the rune changes made and after experiencing the horrific leveling in Fresh/HC. Now’s the time to level if you are interested in playing.
The difficult is to PREVENT speed clearing toxicity. This was a poison in Era and the reason the whole 15+ warriors in raid meta became a thing. Now, you will need to bring different classes to succeed in the new Hard Modes in SoD
I can't bring myself to return to SoD, the new rune changes are just way too little way too late for me. Actually kind of pisses me off they didn't do it 6months ago.
why not? it takes u like 2 days from 40 to 60 and u can literally join any MC/ZG/AQ10 group and be ready to do BWL 2 days after hitting max level xd
The new rune changes? You like being handed all your runes and having no class fantasy and progression feel? God, you people are the kind of brainlets who enjoying cheating in games and then wonder why the game isn’t fun anymore.
Yeah, the Death Knight raid is called Naxxramas...
If they do add Death knights, I'd like to see them also add the Tauren Paladins and Dwarven Shaman. I don't want to see Goblins or Worgen but maybe open up Trolls and Humans or Dwarves to be Druids. Seasonal Servers are NOT Vanilla/Classic. Blizzard has already added expansion abilities via Runes. Not a lot of point in having Faction specific Classes.
I'd also love to see them add a vendor or to a vendor's loot table the ability to buy quest related cooking recipes. Maybe you can't buy the recipe after you finish the quest or can only buy it if you do finish the quest. There is a ton of Trade Good loot that is basically locked to one faction or the other. Very few are willing to sell those recipes on the Neutral Auction House when it means leveling alts or going without it on a character.
Blizzard's biggest mistake with SoD is not calling it Classic+
that would be a horrible classic+, more like season of retail...
whole SOD is C+ beta
I don't see why they just didn't go in the direction of a pre TBC patch era with SoD and just extend it into Azeroth... They could have actually made it really good instead of making ot feel like retail.@@stagnacja1
When they announced SOD, they called it Classic PLUS a bit more.
Wow anniversary better
SoD is alternative Retail, not Classic+.
Cool, my comment got removed.
SoD is classic+.
It's literally the same game with level up raids and better class balance.
@@Az00069these people haven't played retail. They are just sheep parroting others.
@@Az00069 Rogues have a freaking teleport at level 1. That is NOT the same game. Also I never played past level 30 but the most common complaint about SoD I've heard from others is how terrible the class balance is.
@@Tartersauce101 and how is plain vanilla's class balance?
I made my third paladin just because I like being op with all the runes lol
Are people still playing SoD? Is it worth jumping back in? Feels like Hard core has taken most players?
There is a $hit load of new chars rolling on Wild Growth.
idk i liked it at first but it just felt like it was to far removed from the original. im enjoying anniversary more then i did the SoD. Idk how many people are on SoD, but anniversary has tons of toons all level ranges.
If you enjoy fun and much more variety than vanilla then yes it's a great time to jump back to SoD. Rune vendor added with all runes to purchase for 1 copper each and lots of people leveling currently.
SoD has 62k players, Fresh has 20k players and Era has 10k players. So yes, SoD is very much alive and well. Wild Growth US alone has the entire Classic Era population and 50% of the population of Fresh. HC is only perceived as alot because of the Streamers but that will die down once people start dying in MC.
Hardcore took the content creators, because lets face it, dying on hc and the drama is way more entertaining.
I wouldn't hold your breath for anything bigger than what we have come to expect with sod end game. I just hope they release an actually functioning raid tier this time.
I love the people clowning on SoD, yall funny. SoD is meant to be their testing on what they could do for a classic+, basically the beta for it. Bringing in the runes to polish the classes (everything from bc-wrath) that made these classes better to play then they were in classic. The harder raids is to bring in new players from retail to get more people playing that version of their games. But besides all of that, id love for them to add a new version of the dk it would be nice to see what theyll do for it.
I agree with you on most of the insight. However, the harder raids are to prevent the toxic speed clearing meta that infected Classic Era from infecting SoD. Speed clearing was starting to impact SoD in P1, P2 and P3 but with the difficulty levels, it finally died in P4. It was extremely difficult for players to get in raid prior to P4 because that dam meta was prevent certain classes from participating. Now, every class is able to participate and you can't just roll in a raid and avoid mechanics (especially in AQ40).
People advocated for 1 difficulty but the problem with that is if you have just 1 difficulty, people will naturally created their own difficulty (aka the speed clearing challenge) to differentiate who is the best among the players.
DK would be awesome for SoD also TBC lol but doubt it blizzard hates fun
I'm super torn meta. I have a level 47 hunter in classic anniversary but I do want to go back and see phase 7. I feel like I can level really fast with e XP boost and runes. Tell me which one should I play?!?!?
100% SoD
Think of it this way, there will always be normal classic to go back to (private servers + anniversary realms, etc…) but there will not always be a modified classic with the large population SOD currently has. Choose the one you can’t experience later
Yeah, until they stop making the old zones and content irrelevant, I don’t think we will see phase one numbers again.
I would love to see a classic version of Death Knights, and even of Monks and Demon Hunters
God, please no.
Lol no, then it is no longer Classic. I think DK's makes sense but the other classes, hell no.
What happened with Throne and Liberty, last video 2 months ago, the contract ran off?😅
Tbf i would level an alt and swap it to a DK but not my main 😂
Who’s playing SOD??
People are still playing SoD?!?!
Fuck yes. Higher pop than Anniversary servers too.
Really depends to be honest. My guild is in hard raid log mode. Most log in once a week for AQ then either log off till reset or are playing fresh. But that's just my guild. I know some people are still ranking and gaming on SoD
@@claytommn006 yea well your guild will do the same after clearing MC once in anniversary servers
@@kyoden1928 probably not. The guild im in is a different beast than my SoD guild. On anniversary we got 2 full MC raid teams with over 50 unique sign ups for MC and Ony. Most days they got 70ish players online. My SoD guild just doesn't have the same numbers. We will see what happens in a month or so but classic degens will always be classic degens.
@@claytommn006 i get what u mean but like, Running MC for 3months+ will kill the game regardless lol
I hope they don't drop all 3 instances in the next phase. Space it out.
No its not its way to far for class changes for classic plus
It will be the same as the first they added, insanely broken and fun
Jesus people were not kidding when they said Vanilla-Andys will continue to play the same game forever
people didnt think they would turn retail into a woke mobile game with fortnite style graphics and kill the faction conflict
is season of discovery classic still alive?
Yes.
@brandoncastellano1858 wanna play with me? im a good time
@@MrLevonhardt we have an active guild on Crusader strike on Horde.
@@brandoncastellano1858 is crusader strike an NA server? East coast by chance?
@@MrLevonhardt I don’t remember if it’s east or west truthfully.
If you can’t see that sod is classic + and you can’t see that it’s the only new classic content available to play. Then your brain dead sheep that just follows the masses.
Blizzard is abusing its player base. Release multiple versions of the game and having them shuffle between them with new releases, only for the that versions to die out after 1-2months of releasing another version. This is how they keep players subscribed. Instead of people unsubbing when they get bored, they are exploiting the hype and excitement of new releases. The issue is the game is not long term and sustainable. Player base is fragmented. And the world often feels empty in every version.
The world has always felt empty unless you have a classic fresh for less than 3-4 months
Are they really "abusing" their player base by offering plenty of options within the subscription? If players are enjoying the various versions-like Retail, Classic, Season of Discovery, Plunderstorm, or Remix-and mixing them up as they please, how is that a bad thing? For $15, you’re getting access to several games instead of just one. That’s a clear upside.
Even if you’re not interested in the other versions, others might be. And if someone isn’t enjoying the game, they can simply unsubscribe. If they can’t, then they're addicted, and they weren’t approaching the game in a healthy way to begin with.
Blizzard offering more value for the same price shouldn’t be criticized just because some players would keep playing no matter what. Those players aren’t the majority driving the game’s evolution. It's players who spend their time wisely, and only play when it is fun for them to do so, and they saw that and their margins-this is the anwster to that, and a good one.
As for fragmenting the player base-it’s irrelevant. I don’t play Retail because I’m not interested, not because other versions exist. Removing options wouldn’t create a more unified player base; it would just mean fewer players overall.
@@LuxuriaU I don't think so. More value for money.
Dks OP don’t ever need them in classic the game not designed for them yet lol
This video is gonna get people too excited. Please temper expectations until it actually happens.
Nah. It’s too late to redeem SoD which is too far gone at this point. It will never be the coveted Classic+ even when pulling out the big cards in terms of lore and the requested Scarlet raid.
For that reason I actually see this as a bad thing, being wasted on SoD sadly.
Everyone wanted classic+ and its been here since season of discovery and they are now keeping servers open not ending them. All the while people have been asking for classic+ 😂😂😂😂😂😂. You morons this is it and you have fkn missed the start 😅😅😅😅
I'm on a locked low pop SoD realm, The Lash.
RestedXP has one of the better responsive rare trackers. It often signals a rare well before the other rare scanners imo anyways.
And the free version RXP scanner works with all rares of any level.
On locked realms rare hunting is a simple meta. And every morning, every rare, every where, are up and waiting for you. Like deer standing in a field. And rested xp is the best co-pilot for wrangling them all.
RXP is a well built traveling companion for a quick 1 to 60 journey.
Think you commented on the wrong video?
@@manoqueenz I made a comment about the RXP addon mentioned in the vid.
It's a decent leveling helper and the best rare scanner I've used.
Season of Discovery is a season.
They said many times we get to keep our characters in some form. Most likely SoD era permanent servers. It's also possible they just keep adding content to it, and it's Blizzards version of classic+
Nice. I want rdf tool!
SoD doesn't feel ike classic at all.. Ascension WoW's new upcoming server has 21 new classes and they feel far more classic than SoD does.
When does that drop?
@@zacharyshort384 I'd guess in the next 2-3 months. Same with Epoch WoW.
Cool. No one cares. Go play that 👍
thats exactly why its awesome, its basically Classic+, for true classic you have Era and anniversary realm .
how much are they paying you per post
Really wish they’d add new content to anniversary realms and not SOD. don’t need SOD runes giving us copies of tbc and wotlk abilities..Most players want classic with new content and minor changes/updates like paladin taunt and hots/dots crits
Well the numbers beg to differ. More people are playing sod that anniversary so...
@@aaronrodgers9202 Bingo
yea man i want a third talent so i can fit in a third holy spec for my paladin wohoo, and they should give boomy less CD on mana pots so i can pump 10 extra dps for my warriors
I think they're trying to make things more accessible because SoD is going to end soon. The logic being, well it's about to end so might as well let people go crazy with runes, and it's something people have been asking for a while. I don't think they would so nonchalant about adding bugs into the game (the rune purchase warning) and removing all the rune quest content if SoD was going to continue. Expecting SoD to continue after the next phase is probably just cope, but I expect them to do another season later on.
They literally said in a blue post that more is to come after next phase which is Naxx, Aka SM raid and more.
I'll try out SOD if they let me play Goblins or Blood Elves
Incursions destroyed sod
How ?
Word.
It emptied the world for the xp train.
Plus seed thing.
Then the vendor had gear that was basically the gear you'd get in the raid.
Since everyone else did I xp in irsuon train.
Got all the vendor gear.
Ran a raid twice.
No upgrades in gear.
Quit
They did for a small period in SoD's life span... Then Phase 4, 5 and 6 came out and the game has been WORLDS better. If you are so smol brained enough to let one mistake in a game that has many phases, ruin it all for you. Then good. I'm glad you are gone. Stay gone.
The real classic + is called Turtle xd
The problem is they made the raids too hard . Doesn’t feel like classic .
Literal skill issue.
@ It’s not a matter of skill, it’s a matter of being accessible to the majority of the player base . This is why sod tanked . People have jobs and a life , not everyone is a streamer .
@@Rinacgolf SoD seems pretty popular to me.
@Rinacgolf
My dad guild got it done in 2hrs on hm this week. Idk how much more accessible it can be when the only mechanics are "switch target", "stack", "don't stack", and "decurse"
@@Rinacgolf bro this is such a horrific take, I’m in an okay guild, cleared hard mode AQ in an hour and 15 mins. Full time job, friends other hobbies and raid log sod once a week, it’s literally the most casual friendly easy game there is. Streamers aren’t even playing sod, nothing you’ve said is even close to true
More like retail minus, turtle wow did it way better.
No, this isn't classic plus. The runes made it way too easy and made it way too similar to retail. Feels nothing like classic anymore
Exactly this
but classic gameplay is boring soo you really wanna play clasic plus exactly like classic? thats just lame and boring😂
Bro you are coping and deflecting. We know you prefer to press that one button because sod is too hard for you.
And incursions ruined the game lol
@@jayv9073incursions haven't really been a thing in 6 months dude. Get over it. Bots are what ruin every version of WoW. Incursions were at most like taking the highway instead of the scenic route. There are tons of people out in the open world again. Open world PvP is popping every where you go.
So sick of the rested xp shit. How about or promote things that are free.m I’ve been playing for fifteen years blizzard has made enough money and so have you.
Awesome 😎 I love SoD.
People still play SoD lol?
you guys are still being punked by blizzard?
yes. yes they are. Pathetic isn't it?
SoD is retail- NOT classic+ most of SoD is retail mechanics. classic+ correctly should be an unchanged game mechanically and class abilities. just add in the stuff that vanilla never got content wise, not make up something that has no connection to classic, for instance all the quest lines and NPCs in vanilla/classic that just never went anywhere or are unfinished, thats the + not retail. i swear SoD andies dont even realize they are just playing retail with a classic skin.
Remember EVERYTHING in SoD npc wise story wise, is suppose to just fill in the gaps or add references into vanilla to future things.
Some of these things might not be unfinished or not go anywhere, but simply references to future things, or just simply nods to things that are small.
You clearly don't play retail. Retail is actually fun and has an infinite amount of things to do at all times. The only similarities between SoD and retail are some of the abilities and having multiple raid difficulties.
@@drjjloveman SoD is Classic +, What you are asking for is Classic with new content. Thats not Classic +. Classic has horrible class designs and quality of life aspects. BC was miles ahead of Classic in this area.
Its quite clear you are a Classic Andy with your mindset but guess what you have TWO version of the game you can play Classic Era or Classic Fresh. Unfortunately, both combine have less player base than SoD.
your comment literally speaks for a guy that played P1 of SoD and didnt even try any other Phase lmao
@@andrew2616 uhh. Homie what game are you playing because Fresh 100% has more players than SoD it’s not even a debate.
Than era sure SoD has more but definitely not more than Fresh.
I wouldn’t come back to SoD if they paid me to play. This current dev team needs to go! The people who like SoD started in cata or later and don’t know what makes a game good anyway. 12 million down to 60K.
SoD... yawn too many class changes, too much power creep. Disappointing.
I agree, I really hope this is not the classic+ we get :/
Yeah the game is funnier with 25 warriors in 40 man raids
Go play fresh, take a year to level and be a warrior! lol
@@UnCtmare So true bro!! I love playing the exact same game with 0 changes I´ve been playing since 20 years ago! And if I wanted changes, I want something very small like... Like Karazhan!
That was the point lol.
so new instanced content yadyada. well well.... what about: bringing ghostlands with bloodelf and draenei and exodar, theres no flying in the zones, its not that hard. bring ZA as 10 man raid with time runs. thats like zero effort but nice content. for me sod still 10/10 game. best version since legion
sod ended up being complete dog shit no1 wants sod to become classic+
"no one" said the guy that plays on ERA dead servers
@kyoden1928 figures a sod fan boy struggles to even quote correctly, sod sucks and the sod players are the worst, that's another thing that put everyone off on sod, it was toxic af, but cope harder like reality doesn't exist, upset responding to all the posts that say sod sucks still won't make you correct.
@@LC-zk5ri by that logic classic sucks too cuz servers are giga dead and not even bringing back a fresh will save that shit game
@@kyoden1928 Is that what you and the other 14 sod players tell each other? Dude i remember the blizz forums and the denial/cope from shamans/horde at the start of the downfall of sod and how everyone of them said there we were stupid, git gud and blah blah blah for having concerns and saying if it wasnt fixed sod would die... nothing got fixed and the game is dead like we said and the same copium is still happening apparently.
@@LC-zk5ri theres no "cope" if the game is "dead" that means anniversary fresh is dead on arrival as well cuz it has less activity per week than SoD lmao, but yea keep cope up man enjoy ur "leveling" experience until boost happens and everyone quits cuz the game is just boring
Classic plus should be 60-80 leveling takes as long as 1-60 to get from 60-80.
Add 2 more rows of talents in the same talent tree that's available now.
Add two races
Add two classes not necessarily ones in retail.
Give me Tauren Sunwalkers and I’ll buy a 6 month sub
C´mon, Bli$$ard will ruin it like everytime before,. Dont be fools. Turtle WoW is the only thing to play WoW these days.
Get some people who love this game to work on it. Until then I'm not interested.
Deathknights are kind of hard to see in SOD, you sacrafice your character and with the exp bonus your back to level 60 in ... a day. But i guess your gear and mounts are gone. You can just transfer money and and big BOEs to an alt. And i know a TONNNNNN of players where asking for account wide rep.
DKs!? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You’re not getting classic plus, you’re gonna get retail minus. Just play turtle wow if you want classic plus. Stop giving blizzard your money.
What i think blizzard should do is scrap the whole idea of SoD being a seasonal server and turn it into full blown classic+ by maybe adding Death Knights and just continuing to add new content to Classic
For the love of god no, we already have retail, don’t need another version like it
no don’t turn a season into something permanent
No DKs is one of the big reasons I liked SoD... DKs ruin the pvp experience. They are what Brig was to Overwatch.
I just came back after p3 and I'm gonna be gone again if DKs are a thing.
People still play this garbage?
SoD is a joke ngl
blizz sucks at making new content
It will be the same as the first they added, insanely broken and fun