Installed 25mm risers today. Clutch cable seemed a little tight at full lock but sliding in the perch seems sufficient. Thanks for the vid! Also, in case anyone needs it, torque for the handlebar clamps is 20Nm and 40Nm for the risers.
@@advmatt Not yet. I want to try out the bike with the risers and see how it is now; should be a little more comfortable standing up. What's the main benefit of a handlebar upgrade? More rise or backwards sweep?
@@luciano136 there are several ergonomic effects. The first part of this video will explain easier than typing a novel here. th-cam.com/video/tV-GQT4m5VY/w-d-xo.html
Just fitted mine today, super easy, 30 minutes tops, allowing for how tight the original riser bolts were, I was freaking that I might strip them somehow, so took it extremely cautiously. The amount of rust at the bottom of the original 'riser' bolts was rather concerning on a 1 year old bike, so maybe folks should whack a bit of grease around the base of the risers, as that is where the water can get in, and it can't get back out. I did however hit what seemed to be a major snag. When I went to start the bike, I couldn't turn the key. When fiddling around, I somehow moved that plastic shield that is in front of the ignition. In a panic I thought the entire ignition barrel had dropped, and I started sweating, but it was just that the plastic shield had somehow got pushed up, stopping the key from going in fully. Mentioning it in case anyone else comes along thinking of doing the risers, so there is more knowledge shared. Just the bar risers alone made a huge difference, I can stand (I'm 6ft) without having to bend my neck to get my head up. Once I fit the lowered pegs this wee bike will be a beast offroad! Yeehaaa.
Just did this on my 2023 and used your amazon link and got the same ones. Bolts were threaded all the way on the ones I got and way longer than needed. Also some weird size was not a usa or metric allen I had so just bought new ones at the hardware store. Worked out great and did have to mess with the clutch cable a little bit.
I bought the risers you linked to in a reply to a comment here; all's good with the different bolts which were easy to find. FWIW, I measured the bar risers I received and I couldn't find anything about them that measured 22mm even if the ad said they were 22mm. More like 28mm. But they worked if i moved the lever slightly to the right as you suggest.
Hey just clicked in here to ask if you have had the new ECU flash done? I had my bike in for something else and I asked if they could do the new update. But I’m telling you I pulled out expecting nothing from the ECU flash….. it’s like a whole new bike. The jerky throttle response at low speeds in 1-2 gear is completely gone. The fuel is delivered way more evenly throughout all the gears. I could go on and on. I’m absolutely blown away by how much better the bike is now. It’s really so drastic and so much better words just can’t describe it you have to feel it to understand. And If you disagree then all I can think is maybe my bike was messed up from the factory ? But I think that’s impossible it’s a computer program in the end. Also I’ve heard dozens of people talk about the stalls (totally gone) , the jerky throttle , etc. Oh and also the extreme engine breaking is gone , now it feels like a normal big adventure bike with just smooth engine breaking not jerk your head around if your not careful. Which I had totally gotten used to and mastered but boy is it nice now. The entire experience just feels more smooth and the power doesn’t wind out in the low gears and spread so long in the high gears. It’s just more like what every other motorcycle I’ve ever owned was like.
Even though this is a late commit, I put on the 1 1/8” riser and man what a difference that little bit can make. Like others having a problem with the clutch cable I ended up sliding the clutch lever in a 1/2”. The directions say to run the cable a quicker way. Humm, quicker not shorter. Anyways I really couldn’t see a “quicker” route. Sliding the clutch lever in seemed to work. I’ve seen others that bought a longer cable. So now at 6’ I can stand up without being crouched over. Still looking at straightening out the pegs though
Check out the BDCW'S pegs. I love them. I did a video on them if you want to know more. SW-MOTECH also has the Evo peg for this bike. Both pegs sit lower than stock and are flat. Huge improvement.
Hey matt wanted to know if you had changed windscreen visior in the bike cause it looked taller than the stock in the video. If yes then let me know which brand
Sorry, right now I dont have a handle bar recommendation. I would like to upgrade to a thicker bar but need new mounts to do it. Maybe look at a 690 configuration with clamps and bars. The name brand bars all seem good.
Hello!! Have you ever felt that 2inch raiser would have been a more suitable one for you after using this. I am 5.10 and not sure what should i go with(1 or 2 inch). You suggestion will be helpful
@@uv4366 a 2" risers will require a longer clutch cable. That was the reason I stayed with the shorter one. I also installed the Black Dog Cycle Works pegs which lowered my foot position 1/2". This seemed to work pretty well for me. I am also 5'10".
Hey Matt! Since my last post a week ago I found a new 390 Adventure and I'm picking it up tomorrow. At 6'2" I definitely need bar risers. Rox makes great adjustable risers that come in 1,2,3 and 4" heights. I'll be needing at least 2" and maybe more. I've read that you might be able to get away with 2" risers without replacing the clutch cable. Do you have any idea how high one might be able to go without replacing the clutch and the brake cable? Appreciate your input. I'm really enjoying your channel.
My experience with the risers was 1" was the limit on the clutch cable without rerouting it. I looked at this very closely to see what I could do. There is a lot if brake line so I think 2" would be fine but I dont know about anything more than that. I recommend replacing the clutch cable for the heights you want. Thanks for the feedback.
@@jonasbaine3538 I did get the Rox risers which I believe are1.75”. It was tight but I did not have to change any cables. I also lowered the pegs .5”. Between the two I feel pretty good standing up. I’m really liking the bike and rode the MABDR with it.
@@michaelsupple6081 I just put the rox 1.75 on my 22 and clutch cable seems tight did you re route yours? I love how they feel sitting and standing completely better just worried on the clutch.
Hi Matt, I’m thinking of getting a KTM 390 adv and have been watching your posts. Would you recommend the 390 having one yourself or would you recommend a different brand? Pros and cons of the bike given your experience would be welcome 😁
That is a tough question to answer directly. I think it depends on the kind of riding you plan to do. The areas I think there may be better bikes is long distance touring and aggressive offroad riding. I really like mine, I haven't regretted the purchase one second. I rode mine in some really aggressive terrain and thoroughly enjoyed camping off of it. There are a lot of pros and only a few cons. The biggest pro in my opinion is the weight. A sub 400 pound adventure bike is so much easier to handle than a a bike in the high 500s. The two cons that come to mind are the allow wheels, but spoke wheels are on the way and single cylinders vibrate more and require being ridden harder to get the most out of them. It is hard to be comprehensive here but this a good video idea. Thanks for watching.
@@advmatt thanks for your honest reply on your bike. I’m taking the 390 out for a second ride in January, I found the bike a little vibrating on the first ride but was impressed at how light and well balanced it was. It also had some get up and go if you reved it up to about 8 thousand rpm. I took it up to 70mph on a A road and it had lots left but the wind at 70 was not good due to the lack of a decent wind screen. I’m hoping to get a test ride on a Honda CB500X as it’s got all the things the KTM has not got like twin cylinder and a better wind screen and faring, but has a lot more weight to carry. I don’t know yet how the bike feels in relation to weight and balance. I think a lazy torquey ride may suite me but I’m just concerned about the weight of the bike. I do lick your videos on the bike as you seem to be addressing all the concerns that I see I would have if I purchased a 390. Thanks 😊
Hey Matt. Thanks for your install videos. Did you run into the problem of your brake cable not having any slack? I did and can't seem to find any extra line.
@@advmatt interesting. No one else has either. Also, have you added a headlight grill? I picked one up from AliExpress and painted it. Find me on Instagram Miotch77
@@advmatt I said the pitch of screw, not lenght. The "normal/commercial" pitch is 1,50mm. The fine pitch is 1,25mm. You know if is 1,50 or 1,25? Thanks again
I'm sorry I dont know what pitch rating was on the bolts. I would only be guessing. I dont remember it being the more fine pitch, but I cant say for sure. As a suggestion, remove one of the original bolts and match the thread up to a known pitch.
El cable del clutch no es lo suficientemente largo para usarlo con esos risers, los hand guards podrían golpear el windshield, sobre todo si usan uno alto como el se la 790 👍🏻
@@advmatt I just got these risers from Amazon. You mention concern about the clutch cable but what about other cables? Did you have to cut any ties or reroute any of them?
Hi Matt, Greatings from Poland. I see that you have KTM crash bars installed. I just bought such, but regardles KTM send for installation manual to their website, there is no manual there. Have a bit of doubts regarding installation so could you pls, share manual if you had it with your kit? Or you just installed them following your experience.
It's the Givi windscreen. I did a video on it. It is way better than the stock windscreen. It takes all the wind off of my chest and shoulders. I still get wind hitting right about mid visor on my helmet.
I got the same windscreen after seeing your video and it makes a huge difference. I'm on the low side of 5 ft 8 and that was getting a lot of wind blast in my chest after 45 miles per hour but with this guy it takes a lot of that wind away without being too much for ventilation.
@@thomastoquothty7450 I work on getting links added to videos. This is what I purchased, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QTWVJQB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Installed 25mm risers today. Clutch cable seemed a little tight at full lock but sliding in the perch seems sufficient. Thanks for the vid! Also, in case anyone needs it, torque for the handlebar clamps is 20Nm and 40Nm for the risers.
Have you considered upgrading the handle bars?
@@advmatt Not yet. I want to try out the bike with the risers and see how it is now; should be a little more comfortable standing up. What's the main benefit of a handlebar upgrade? More rise or backwards sweep?
@@luciano136 there are several ergonomic effects. The first part of this video will explain easier than typing a novel here. th-cam.com/video/tV-GQT4m5VY/w-d-xo.html
See my post above (bacbladerunner) about a longer clutch cable.
I bought the 25 mm riser from Tourtech for my 790 R and everything worked great took me about 30 minutes to install and no moving of cables. $79.99
Just fitted mine today, super easy, 30 minutes tops, allowing for how tight the original riser bolts were, I was freaking that I might strip them somehow, so took it extremely cautiously. The amount of rust at the bottom of the original 'riser' bolts was rather concerning on a 1 year old bike, so maybe folks should whack a bit of grease around the base of the risers, as that is where the water can get in, and it can't get back out.
I did however hit what seemed to be a major snag. When I went to start the bike, I couldn't turn the key. When fiddling around, I somehow moved that plastic shield that is in front of the ignition. In a panic I thought the entire ignition barrel had dropped, and I started sweating, but it was just that the plastic shield had somehow got pushed up, stopping the key from going in fully.
Mentioning it in case anyone else comes along thinking of doing the risers, so there is more knowledge shared.
Just the bar risers alone made a huge difference, I can stand (I'm 6ft) without having to bend my neck to get my head up. Once I fit the lowered pegs this wee bike will be a beast offroad! Yeehaaa.
Thanks for adding those notes. Really helpful.
Just did this on my 2023 and used your amazon link and got the same ones. Bolts were threaded all the way on the ones I got and way longer than needed. Also some weird size was not a usa or metric allen I had so just bought new ones at the hardware store. Worked out great and did have to mess with the clutch cable a little bit.
Glad it worked for you. It really helped my riding position. Dropping the footpegs a 1/2" also helped a bit more.
@@advmatt waiting for those now and cant wait for them the factory ones stink........
I bought the risers you linked to in a reply to a comment here; all's good with the different bolts which were easy to find. FWIW, I measured the bar risers I received and I couldn't find anything about them that measured 22mm even if the ad said they were 22mm. More like 28mm. But they worked if i moved the lever slightly to the right as you suggest.
Thats makes sense
Almost to a thousand subscribers- way to go Matt 👍🏻😃
Hey just clicked in here to ask if you have had the new ECU flash done? I had my bike in for something else and I asked if they could do the new update. But I’m telling you I pulled out expecting nothing from the ECU flash….. it’s like a whole new bike.
The jerky throttle response at low speeds in 1-2 gear is completely gone. The fuel is delivered way more evenly throughout all the gears. I could go on and on. I’m absolutely blown away by how much better the bike is now. It’s really so drastic and so much better words just can’t describe it you have to feel it to understand.
And If you disagree then all I can think is maybe my bike was messed up from the factory ? But I think that’s impossible it’s a computer program in the end. Also I’ve heard dozens of people talk about the stalls (totally gone) , the jerky throttle , etc.
Oh and also the extreme engine breaking is gone , now it feels like a normal big adventure bike with just smooth engine breaking not jerk your head around if your not careful. Which I had totally gotten used to and mastered but boy is it nice now. The entire experience just feels more smooth and the power doesn’t wind out in the low gears and spread so long in the high gears. It’s just more like what every other motorcycle I’ve ever owned was like.
Thanks for the info. I havent had the ecu flashed with the latest upgrade yet. Dealers are not close, but I will need to do it. Cheers.
What year model is yours? Would the '22 models already have the new ECU flash done?
@@db0zr0z yes the 22 does. But that’s just second hand what I heard. I would check with the dealer.
Even though this is a late commit, I put on the 1 1/8” riser and man what a difference that little bit can make.
Like others having a problem with the clutch cable I ended up sliding the clutch lever in a 1/2”. The directions say to run the cable a quicker way. Humm, quicker not shorter. Anyways I really couldn’t see a “quicker” route. Sliding the clutch lever in seemed to work. I’ve seen others that bought a longer cable.
So now at 6’ I can stand up without being crouched over. Still looking at straightening out the pegs though
Check out the BDCW'S pegs. I love them. I did a video on them if you want to know more. SW-MOTECH also has the Evo peg for this bike. Both pegs sit lower than stock and are flat. Huge improvement.
Thanks for great vid. Bought same product on Aliexpress for 12 bucks. 2 bolts and 2 pieces of alu.
Ordered 22mm Orange risers from Ali for $20 can . 😎 Thanks for the nicely done video! @ADV Matt
More installation video please 🤜🏼🤛🏻✌🏻
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The clutch cable is not long enough for those risers, please also note that the hand guards could hit the windshield.
It worked out fine for me. The hand guards dont contact the windscreen. Maybe you recieved a taller version.
Thank you Matt!
Excelente video. Saludos desde Perú.
Saludos de Argentina amigo!
Great instructions!
Hey matt wanted to know if you had changed windscreen visior in the bike cause it looked taller than the stock in the video. If yes then let me know which brand
Yes, I did a video on it. It's a Givi windscreen. Video will detail it all out.
Thank you very much for your video! I really liked the way you look.
Please, can you share where to buy the long screws?
Any hardware store. I had the bolts from another motorcycle project. Try Ace Hardware or Lowe's.
@@advmatt Perfect! Thank you.
Hi can you recommend a different handlebar that will fit 390 and from where?? Your video’s are Great thks
Sorry, right now I dont have a handle bar recommendation. I would like to upgrade to a thicker bar but need new mounts to do it. Maybe look at a 690 configuration with clamps and bars. The name brand bars all seem good.
My man 👊
Hello!! Have you ever felt that 2inch raiser would have been a more suitable one for you after using this. I am 5.10 and not sure what should i go with(1 or 2 inch). You suggestion will be helpful
@@uv4366 a 2" risers will require a longer clutch cable. That was the reason I stayed with the shorter one. I also installed the Black Dog Cycle Works pegs which lowered my foot position 1/2". This seemed to work pretty well for me. I am also 5'10".
@@advmattthank you! it helped
For 26 mm risers do i need a new cable ???for KTM 390 adv 2022
I didn't need one, but I did slide the clutch perch closer to the center of the bars.
Hey man thanks for the video, how tall are you? I am 6'1 and scared that I will look funny big on this bike..
@John Currie true brother, I bought this bike and I am loving it :))
So sorry, I just saw this question. I am 5' 10". I think you will be fine if you get the ergos sorted out.
Hey Matt! Since my last post a week ago I found a new 390 Adventure and I'm picking it up tomorrow. At 6'2" I definitely need bar risers. Rox makes great adjustable risers that come in 1,2,3 and 4" heights. I'll be needing at least 2" and maybe more. I've read that you might be able to get away with 2" risers without replacing the clutch cable. Do you have any idea how high one might be able to go without replacing the clutch and the brake cable? Appreciate your input. I'm really enjoying your channel.
My experience with the risers was 1" was the limit on the clutch cable without rerouting it. I looked at this very closely to see what I could do. There is a lot if brake line so I think 2" would be fine but I dont know about anything more than that. I recommend replacing the clutch cable for the heights you want. Thanks for the feedback.
@@advmatt Thank you very much.
@@michaelsupple6081 Did you get the 390 and rise the bars 2inches? Was it comfortable? How's the bike?
@@jonasbaine3538 I did get the Rox risers which I believe are1.75”. It was tight but I did not have to change any cables. I also lowered the pegs .5”. Between the two I feel pretty good standing up. I’m really liking the bike and rode the MABDR with it.
@@michaelsupple6081 I just put the rox 1.75 on my 22 and clutch cable seems tight did you re route yours? I love how they feel sitting and standing completely better just worried on the clutch.
Hi Matt,
I’m thinking of getting a KTM 390 adv and have been watching your posts.
Would you recommend the 390 having one yourself or would you recommend a different brand? Pros and cons of the bike given your experience would be welcome 😁
That is a tough question to answer directly. I think it depends on the kind of riding you plan to do. The areas I think there may be better bikes is long distance touring and aggressive offroad riding. I really like mine, I haven't regretted the purchase one second. I rode mine in some really aggressive terrain and thoroughly enjoyed camping off of it. There are a lot of pros and only a few cons. The biggest pro in my opinion is the weight. A sub 400 pound adventure bike is so much easier to handle than a a bike in the high 500s. The two cons that come to mind are the allow wheels, but spoke wheels are on the way and single cylinders vibrate more and require being ridden harder to get the most out of them. It is hard to be comprehensive here but this a good video idea. Thanks for watching.
@@advmatt thanks for your honest reply on your bike.
I’m taking the 390 out for a second ride in January, I found the bike a little vibrating on the first ride but was impressed at how light and well balanced it was. It also had some get up and go if you reved it up to about 8 thousand rpm. I took it up to 70mph on a A road and it had lots left but the wind at 70 was not good due to the lack of a decent wind screen.
I’m hoping to get a test ride on a Honda CB500X as it’s got all the things the KTM has not got like twin cylinder and a better wind screen and faring, but has a lot more weight to carry. I don’t know yet how the bike feels in relation to weight and balance. I think a lazy torquey ride may suite me but I’m just concerned about the weight of the bike.
I do lick your videos on the bike as you seem to be addressing all the concerns that I see I would have if I purchased a 390.
Thanks 😊
Keep the RPMs above 5k, the bike really smoothes out between 6k and 8k. It's the sweet spot. Cheers.
The 390 adventure isn't really a travel bike imo after riding for the last 45 years.
Sir I want this handle bar riser replay me
Hey Matt. Thanks for your install videos. Did you run into the problem of your brake cable not having any slack? I did and can't seem to find any extra line.
I didnt have any issues with the brake line, only the clutch cable.
@@advmatt interesting. No one else has either. Also, have you added a headlight grill? I picked one up from AliExpress and painted it. Find me on Instagram Miotch77
@@mitchkettering I havent but a grill on yet. I will take a look.
Hi Matt, the screw is M10x1,50 or M10x1,25? Y search at spare parts catalogue and said M10x1,25. Thanks!
I recommend using the longer one. There is room for the the threads to go through.
@@advmatt I said the pitch of screw, not lenght. The "normal/commercial" pitch is 1,50mm. The fine pitch is 1,25mm. You know if is 1,50 or 1,25? Thanks again
I'm sorry I dont know what pitch rating was on the bolts. I would only be guessing. I dont remember it being the more fine pitch, but I cant say for sure. As a suggestion, remove one of the original bolts and match the thread up to a known pitch.
El cable del clutch no es lo suficientemente largo para usarlo con esos risers, los hand guards podrían golpear el windshield, sobre todo si usan uno alto como el se la 790 👍🏻
Sorry just saw your comment. The risers have worked ok for me.
Had you found any other risers in your search? The ones that you are using won't get to me until mid-November. Why not Rox risers?
I was looking for a less expensive option since it just a block of aluminium. I expect Rox risers will work too.
@@advmatt I just got these risers from Amazon. You mention concern about the clutch cable but what about other cables? Did you have to cut any ties or reroute any of them?
@@davidringgenberg8538 the clutch cable was the only one that was a problem. The electronic cables and brake line had plenty of slack.
Hi Matt, Greatings from Poland. I see that you have KTM crash bars installed. I just bought such, but regardles KTM send for installation manual to their website, there is no manual there. Have a bit of doubts regarding installation so could you pls, share manual if you had it with your kit? Or you just installed them following your experience.
My bike came with the bars installed. I found the manual for the bike online, but I dont think it covers the installation of the bars. Sorry.
@@advmatt Got it and thks for replay. More or less I have idea how to fit them so anyway I will try. Brgds and stay safe on the trail.
Matt the new link goes to a 30mm bar riser not a 22mm do you think that will still work with stock clutch cable?
Let me fix the link. Stick with a 22mm riser. I think 30mm is too tall.
@@advmatt thanks man! Just picked up my 390 adventure this week!
@@niclynch319 just updated the link to the exact bar risers I purchased.
Hey Matt- Where/what bar risers did you purchase? Thanks!
Amazon, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QTWVJQB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@advmatt Thanks & keep your vids coming. Much appreciated.
Hi. The amazon link is dead. Do you have a new one please?
I updated the link. Thanks for letting me know.
Thank you.JHB-SA
What windscreen is that and how do you like it? Thanks!
It's the Givi windscreen. I did a video on it. It is way better than the stock windscreen. It takes all the wind off of my chest and shoulders. I still get wind hitting right about mid visor on my helmet.
I got the same windscreen after seeing your video and it makes a huge difference. I'm on the low side of 5 ft 8 and that was getting a lot of wind blast in my chest after 45 miles per hour but with this guy it takes a lot of that wind away without being too much for ventilation.
❤️👍
Hi! where did you buy the kit???
Amazon, KTM bar riser for 790 maybe or 690, they are all the same
@@advmatt Do you happen to have the link to what you ordered? It would be very helpful to add to the description of the video.
@@thomastoquothty7450 I work on getting links added to videos. This is what I purchased, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QTWVJQB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@advmatt Awesome thanks! I just picked them up
Thank you!!!👌🏽
how tall are you mate?
5 foot 10 inches, with riding boots nearly 6 foot.
how tall are you ???
5 foot 10 1/2 inches
how tall are you ???
I am 5' 10", with boots, 6 foot, probably