The Lion King: Is Simba the VILLAIN? - Wisecrack Edition
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Written by: Tommy Cook & Alec Opperman
Narrated by: Jared Bauer
Directed by: Michael Luxemburg
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Motion Graphics by: Drew Levin
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"It's responsible for everything bad in western Society" shows atomic bomb , war , fidget spinners and Jared leto's joker PERFECT
yeah, i think that was a kind of joke. Because every kind of government can only be
justified by opinion. Its true that was very ironic.
Then go to north korea and live in a communist country 😁 im sure they would need more people working in the coal mines
Then tell me why absolutist monarchy does not work?
The thing is who rules makes the diference not the government.
Nodrit Sonk cause it has the word monarchy in the title
"Wait isn't that just cannibalism with extra steps???"
"Someone's getting laid in college"
are you impliing that you gonna eat girlfriend and then eat her? or visa versa?
It's a Rick and Morty reference!
Kristoffer Valen rick and Morty reference the line is.
Morty: “That sounds like slavery just with extra steps”
Rick:”(sarcastically) Someone’s getting laid in college”
*'eek barba derkel'
'eek barba derkel', that a pretty F%$#ed up, "ooh la la"
for one lion to become grass, it takes 1000 antelope to be eaten
prey far outnumber predator.
That's how life works
It´s the CIIIIIRCLE OF LIIIFE
but most of the antelopes will just die of old age not eaten by a stupid predator
What about when it takes a huge lion dump fertilizing the soil?
"Cannibalism with extra steps"? Ooh-la-la, someone's gonna get laid in college.
Kevin Ludwig rick&Morty reference. iiiiii like dat
Eek barba durkle
Herrman Selcher lol
Wubba Lubba Dubdub !!!!
But the tooth fairy is still real right?
24 Frames Of Nick kid I’ve got some bad news for you.................
Totes. I heard she and the Easter Bunny got engaged.
24 Frames Of Nick the tooth fairy is really a drug addict that grinds up teeth into a cocaine-like powder.
24 Frames Of Nick *sarcastic* Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Dwayne the Rock Johnson is totally real
Simba Killed JFK. Keep asking questions
Our Founding Liars Stay woke
Nice avatar, literally watching Jojo right now
I thought the Comedian had killed JFK.
You are fake news.
Simba is a Zionist puppet
Great theory! I like how you expanded on it. Regarding the second point though, I wanna debate that a little. The notion that Scar is the brains and Mufasa is the muscle is only how Scar himself sees the situation. During the movie, we have no reason to think Mufasa is just a noble brute, in fact he seems really smart, and Scar's "grand masterplan" is reduced to using violence (what he claims Mufasa would do) to solve his problems and then poorly convincing everyone that he's not responsible. As soon as Simba appears, nobody questions his version and everyone turns on Scar, who doesn't have any arguments to give other than pleading for his life. As a kid I always thought Scar wasn't "the brains" as much as he claims to be and that the movie was subtly saying you can't be right if you use the same methods you criticize.
Agreed wholeheartedly 100%
You could say Santa isn't real or cereal makes you fat but never criticize my beloved Space Jam
I was under the impression that the animals respected the lions but weren’t ruled by them. Kinda like the elephants in the new Jungle Book movie.
Also, the pride lands don’t suffer just because Scar was ruling. It was implied (more so in the Broadway play) that scar misused the resources of land.
"Also, the pride lands don’t suffer just because Scar was ruling. It was implied (more so in the Broadway play) that scar misused the resources of land."
By letting the Hyenas use the same hunting lands as the lions, which could be taken as a comment on social services like universal healthcare.
"I was under the impression that the animals respected the lions but weren’t ruled by them. Kinda like the elephants in the new Jungle Book movie."
They bow at the beginning, and during Simba's "King" song, they join in to hail him as their prince.
All Scar did was let the Hyenas take over and they ate all the prey animals that didn't migrate. I don't see why that would trigger a drought.
MDoorpsy it is never explicitly said that, when the animals bow, they are hailing Simba as their prince. I’ve always interpreted that as more of a gesture of respect rather than a gesture of submission
Greatsaiyakirby I can’t explain the drought, but the lack of food makes sense
It basically is submission though, what reason to the animals have to respect the lions? That they don't hunt them into oblivion? The prey don't seem to be getting anything out of the arrangement and they just mindlessly bow to the lions who exist to hunt and eat them. I wouldn't expect my dinner to bow to me our of respect because I don't eat it all in one go, it seems like the prey are kept deliberately less sentient than the lions so it's less disturbing they they are their food.
Much like the Salmon Scene from Brother Bear. The Bears are fully sentient but the Salmon aren't sentient at all and are devoured by the score.
If you watch the animals of the lion king as humans, than this video applies ... if you watch them as animals the message becomes "if you temper with an eco system that has been balanced by nature from the outside, it collapses. E.g. if you disrupt the food chain, nobody gets to eat anything and all will starve". So you can either look at them as cute animals that talk, or as humans.
bruv this is a human creation.
Exactly, mans out here comparing human races to different species of animals
I read an article where re-introducing four timer wolves back into their natural habitat reinstated the ecosystem and even altered the landscape over fifteen years. It's therefore not that farfetched of an idea that carnivores have a place 'in the circle of life'. Scar's invasion with the hyenas made it barren because he had no restraint and no regulation.
Scar forced his personal vendetta of envy [being a rejected heir when Simba was born] unto his own nephew and the hyenas themselves and it was poetry they became his ultimate demise. He cared nothing for them. Whereas Simba returned because of his personal responsibility and because he cared. Him being a "rightful" ruler was not simply because of his birthright - but because he was raised into a culture to care.
I think there should have been more on Mufasa's and Scar's relationship as to why Scar and the hyenas got banished /exiled to the Dark Elephant Graveyard which is not considered part of the Kingdom / Pride Rock. (I suppose that is told in later stories.) Mufasa probably was aware of Scar's inclinations having grown up with him and was too late to protect himself and his son from it.
There's a actually a video of the wolves being reintroduced to Yosemite. It's beautiful. Yes, I think there really is something to the natural order framework. We must again strive for it as an ideal.
I remember reading somewhere that Scar and hyenas we’re responsible for the elephant graveyard.
So Black Panther is basically a Lion King remake. Got it.
I don't recall The Lion King dealing with & rejecting the concepts of isolationism, ethnocentrism, the American Jeremiad, & blind traditionalism... In that sense, Black Panther is really an anti-lion king. The only place it stumbles is in not repealing monarchy entirely -- but then again, I suppose they need room for Black Panther 2 plot.
There's a lot of weird reductionism that has happened around the Black Panther movie, & I think it suffers from the Scrooge problem. Scrooge becomes a kind & generous man, repenting for his failings in the past... but still "scrooge" is a byword for miserly, unkind, & selfish. I think the same has happened among some people with the Black Panther movie... they see that, at the beginning of the movie, Wakanda is an isolationist, traditionalist, elite club & that's how they remember it -- but the whole plot of the movie is about tearing that shit down.
@@dr.zoidberg8666 finally someone said it.
@@dr.zoidberg8666 nice
@@dr.zoidberg8666 Isn't it why people praise so much Erik Killmonger?
Kimba is the original Lion King
You didn't ruin my childhood because I didn't watch The Loin King until I was 18
Satanist parents?
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I love how jared's voice over voice has gone from peppy TH-camr to jaded TH-camr in a year or so
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But...but Simba's time in the hippie commune turned him into a peace-loving vegetarian.
Tre' Jones bugs are aninals too
You need education..badly
Heil Hux Own... gonna cry...
Title sounds like it could be from film theory.
I thought it was Film Theory too. I was surprised when I heard Jared's voice instead of MatPat's squeals.
I noticed how Simba wasn't mentioned in the entire video, except when he went hippieing around with a warthog and meerkat.
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No this is ridiculous, man. This was a Cracked article, with better citations. You assert that Simba was the true villain for restoring the natural order, and the natural order was there to make animals just accept their fate. But when Scar disrupts the natural order for power he unleashes all of the hyenas onto the pride lands, killing and eating all of the other animals without regard for its ultimate effect on society (which may be one reason the hyenas were forced to be on the outside). He, like all tyrants, feel that he is smart enough and strong enough to go beyond the moral law and not recognize the governing principle of the pride lands, Circle of Life. Simba as a cub recognizes the problem in the system when he asks, "don't we eat the antelope" and mufasa offers an explanation. But once outside the kingdom, Simba is offered an alternative to the moral failings of this system that you've pointed out, which is to eat bugs.(that's a sentence I'd never thought I'd write) In the end he's able to uphold the moral system, while attending to its flaws.
The movie makes clear, at least in my opinion, that the Mufasa-Simba dynasty rules with the consent of the other animals, and therefore has legitimacy, and the Scar Regime is brought about by appealing to the worst and most rapacious aspects of the society. Presenting this movie as if it were Autocracy vs. Democracy is wrong, Scar wasn't offering democracy. It wasn't a might makes right vs. ruling with intelligence play, if anything Scar was asserting that might makes right by getting all of the hyenas to rule the pride lands by force. This seemed to me to be asking what makes a good leader vs what makes a bad leader. A good leader upholds the moral law of the pride lands, and a bad leader subverts it, and even willingly destroys it for political gain. I mean, what else is a ruler of any governmental system supposed to do if not that?
This is excellent! I never bothered to think very deeply about the philosophy of The Lion King, and this has given me a completely new perspective. I love seeing new takes on things and broadening my own understanding of them. This was entertaining and enlightening. Thanks, Wisecrack!
I always thought it was weird how they awknowledge that they eat the antelope even tho they r kings. Like, do the antelope have rituals where they decide who gets sacrificed? Do they sacrifice their weak and disabled? Or does mufasa just get to pick which poor antelope he rips from their family to be eaten alive by him and his concubine? This aspect of the movie always creeped him tf out
Every time Jared says "Hey Wisecrack, Jared here" I say "Hey Jared!" Alone in my room idk why
The Lion King has always been a disgrace for its dubious take on politics (and its implicit approval of incest), but one thing with it irritates me in particular: its inexcusable slander of spotted hyenas.
Here are a few facts about spotted hyenas: they are actual predators, they catch live preys, and only resort to scavenging when there is no other food source. Lions steal spotted hyenas' catches FIVE times more often than the opposite. Spotted hyenas are several times smarter than lions: their Dunbar number is almost a couple of orders of magnitude bigger. Spotted hyenas are so efficient they eat and digest even bones, and have evolved a new intersex gender that is even stronger than males and which has entirely replaced females in their species.
Are you implying... that giant women with both dicks and cunts are destined to become the future human woman 2.0 if we play our cards right?
Please don't let DeviantArt be a prophecy...
This was really insightful thanks guys
Simba-“What’s that dark shadowy lights with the neon red lights?!?.”...
Mufasa-“That’s where my stash of other available pussy cats at.”
Wow the cliche of "is the hero really the villain??"
Philosophy of Psycho-Pass, what is law is it because of law we become animal in pen, we become docile.
Fadel Rama that video will be awesome
Oh yeah! Psycho-pass would be awesome
Punctuation, I can't understand you.
I'd love to see what they think about the idea of a person being unjudgeable by the system.
Crazyhart sorry
“It’s like cannabilism, but with extra steps” lolll I wonder where you got that from ;)
Great stuff guys! Wisecrack is definitely one of my favorite channels
I think you've messed up a bit. In the Lion King, everybody isn't equal. They aren't all equal humans, and don't use ad hominem (totalitarian dictators follow Plato's ideas of harmony, totalitarian dictators are bad, ergo Plato's ideas are bad) to paint the Lion King as promoting authoritarian propaganda. Lions have to eat other animals to survive, as giraffes are herbivores. This isn't "oh, everyone is the same, how about nobody eats anybody else", it's necessary for survival. Human's don't require the flesh of other humans to survive, if the Lion King was about some antelopes being king and forcing the other antelopes to accept their place as weak, inferior, and food it would actually be more similar to totalitarianism. Technically, you only have a certain amount of choice in your life. If you were born in the 12th century, you could've died at childbirth, no matter how much free will you have. Lions have to eat other animals or else they starve. They can't just switch to grass since they can't process it and they need a certain amount of energy (see MatPat's video). If worms were sentient in the movie and had cute voices and faces people would call Simba a monster. Therefore, the Lion King isn't saying that humans are cogs in the machine, you are just extending this viewpoint to humans, where it doesn't apply. Humans and the animals in the movie have a lot of differences.
Also, Scar is not supportive of democracy. He doesn't want equality, he wants control, and to that end he is causing an imbalance in the "natural order". This isn't "natural order" in the sense that everyone is forced into roles and cogs, this is "natural order" in the sense of food webs and ecology. You said that Lion King says democracy leads to tyranny, but it was never a "democracy". Scar wasn't elected democratically or anything, he just took power because of his strength and promises, more of a cult / army than a democracy. Scar is more similar to Hitler than Simba. Yes, Simba used might to beat Scar, but so did Britain and the Allies using might to beat the Axis during World War II. Scar doesn't want a better quality of life for everyone, just letting the strong (hyenas and lions) survive by eating the weak (herbivores, else), like how Hitler was antisemitic.
Cybertronian Exactly. Finally, someone who can actually interpret the lion king.
Just because the characters in this movie are made up of animals doesn't mean that human philosophy doesn't apply, because this movie is a work of FICTION.
Should we ignore the lessons of childhood fables just because the characters were animals?
And also just because the "circle of life" establishes order in a natural ecosystem doesn't mean that this movie should promote it in the system of governance.
Cybertronian
coulda simply asked what monarchy/kingship had to do with democracy ... 😜
Cybertronian i think its safe to say the shat the bad with this video. As if there is a metaphor for different government methods in this film, its simply about two despots, one is corrupt and other isnt
Mert Su Yeah, wisecrack jumped the gun a bit by saying there was democracy in The Lion King
Why you hating on New Jersey though lmao
there's an Honest Trailer in existence for a while now. i think it's a wink showing jared knows he can't be all that original here.
New Jersey is the armpit of America
we goin come and blow new jersey up! - Chief Keef
New Jersey is good......in some places!
It's very convenient
Don't worry Jared's pansy ass couldn't handle it here.
first video i watched of you and instantly subscribed !
Do a philosophy on Dexter(TV series).
I second this.
the circle of life is cannibalism with more steps ohlala someone's gonna get laid in college
It is a good video but i think it needs a different title
This one is more clickbait-y though
1st time watching wisecrack and I’m already subscribed
well, the problem with scar was that he didnt convince the providers the one who go hunt and brings the food.
just like when you tax to much the people at top
Plz neon Genesis evangelion or psycho pass wisecrack plz
Eshan karnik dude yes !
this comment needs way more attention
Psycho Pass could be a very good one, but to be fair, it may require a lot of work for there is a shit ton of Philosophy in this anime. However, it depends on what he chooses to study, if he decides to focus on the main Philosophy of the anime which is Utilitarianism, then it might alleviate the work, but again we would miss some important points... Guess it's up to you Wisecrack :)
Hey have any of you guys watch perfect blue
No i haven't, though i think a friend of mine talked to me about it. Is it the anime with the duality as the main theme ?
bruh so simba did 9/11?
Yes, but the one that installed a Dictatorship in Chile, not the one that destroyed the World Trade Center.
I am not nearly that competent.
Simba attacked Pearl Harbor,landed on the Moon with Yuri Gagarin and killed Franz Ferdinand in Zagreb,all on a same day.Also he owes me money.
Great video!!!
My childhood have already been destroyed when i learned that The Lion King is a rip off of a animem "Kira: the jungle emperor".
I thought it's a ripoff of "Kimba, the white lion" ?
Lion King is actually inspired on Hamlet.
pantelis skyllas what film 🎞 is on .26
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 I thought it was inspired by both
Kimba
Video is a bit confusing.
All the stuff you said is true but not evil and is simply a benchmark of rigid societies, such as monarchies of auld.
Your analysis of lion king I spot on. I can’t say the same about Plato. Besides his views of democracy and the fact that it leads to tyranny, you are far off. You are taking jumps in logic. Plato was for a system like Rome or the United States, not exactly but fairly close. He didn’t talk about people have a place and they should stick to it. Unless you have read something I have not. He liked the oligarchy of Sparta not eugenics culture. The other thing along those lines is when he says some people aren’t fit for certain things. He notes that certain people are better at certain things, and a government shouldn’t give equal power to everyone. He is just saying they aren’t fit to rule not that they should only do one thing. Nothing about eugenics just skill. He never mentions forcing people into jobs, but limiting those with power. Sorry for the rant, if I some how missed one of his writings where he says other wise please point me to it.
Dominic Petrone I see some of your point, but on the eugenics aspect think about what they did to sickly kids...
great video, i always knew something felt off about lion king when i was a kid
You guys need to do the philosophy of Gus Fringe (Antagonist of Breaking bad)
I think the limits to this analogization between pride lands politics and human politics come from the inherent limits of anthropormorphization. There is a natural order to nature, if there are too many predators the prey dies out and if there’s too much prey the grass dies and things starve. There is a natural hierarchy within the animal kingdom were animals are predators and prey. This doesn’t apply to human politics because all humans are equal, and there is no natural order between us. (Any deviation from that fact results in racism, sexism and nazism.)
The politics of the animal kingdom don’t translate to human politics because it isn’t human politics, it’s animal politics. That’s why the main themes of the movie were that of identity and dealing with the past rather than the politics of the animal kingdom because any focus on the animal kingdom becomes muddled by the translation of anthromophization.
Jonathan Eby
Humans are not equal either...
some can play violin, some can play the piano, some are good at it, some are not that good... in all areas;
heriarchys are part of this world... of course a vilian must be replaced... and everybody must have the right to go up and down on whatever heriarchy, if he/she wants.
I miss 8bit philosophy
Yup. Me too.
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I miss disembodied British accent guy
Good god this one was great. Excellent work, I'd usher you to look back to the situation of how you've made this one if it's not just that this movie simply being a goldmine for thinking space.
THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
I usually agree with your stuff but this one feels like MatPat nonsense. You're analyzing this far too literally. And it's concerning that you put intellect and reasoning above all. The reason Scar is the bad guy is becsuse he believes he can order the world properly and does not need the transcendent. He is the danger of the intellect. You can never forget that what you don't know is always more important than what you do know, and you will never know everything. This is something intellectuals struggle with greatly to the detriment of all mankind.
>.> I think you're reaching here with that interpretation of a children's film. Wise crack's criticisms of the film aren't new. They've been pointed out since the film was released. How a story is structured matters a great deal. Especially a story directed at children. So saying they're taking it too literal, is missing the context. Because kids will take it literal... they'll take it at face value and absorb it on an emotional level. Looking at how prevalent holism is in the crusade against racism... the pursuit of environmental security and the exclusionary solutions discussed during the occupy movement... I'd say the damage has already been done. (It's the same generation that also grew up on Captain planet, X-men and GIJoe PSAs)
Soletestament it being a children's film makes it more likely to have more esoteric meaning not less. Have you ever read a fairy tail?
Very true. Interestingly enough so many intellectuals were sympathetic to communism
Great video! As a child the Lion King actually made me wounder about some of these questions. This answers to a whole lot of them-[I'm no longer alone thinking Mufasa works like a totalitarian dictator]. The balance between individualism and collectivism describes tons of difficulties. I don't really believe in any natural given order, even though, nature is all there is. Right is also might. Given "right" can be dictated by social standards, not only physical or mental power. The basic principle is all the same... Nowadays, Plato probably would have hated our society.
Thanks for another awesome episode!
Hey a darker version of Lion king would be welcomed now that the remake's live action...
Kenneth Satria The worst part is they're not putting Scar's song Be Prepared in the Remake Be Prepared is the best remembered Lion King song and really popular too I can't believe they're not putting Be Prepared in the Remake WHAT GIVES?
@@katelynbodiford5680 I've got a lov"e"ly bunch of coconuts is clearly the best song
@@imluvinyourmum
Yeah it's really good and funny too.
Do the philosophy of "The Zero Theorem" please!
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Slurms Mckenzy!
Everything the light touches is our kingdom
"what about that scary dark place over there?'
That's the Kanye West's African retreat, you must never go near there Simba
What's the jok e
Wisecrack and Jared PLEASSSSSSEEEEEEE make a Code Geass philosophy video!
he is making the lion king more understandable and make me look at it future
5:00 i love that this became a running joke ever since the death note vid bless
A movie reviewer that goes by Confused Mathew took a similar tone for his multi part breakdown of the lion king several years back. Seems like the guys at wise cracked would likely agree with some if not all of confused Matthew's conclusions
I read an article where re-introducing four timber wolves into their natural habitat reinstated the diverse eco-system and even changed the landscape over fifteen years. The fact that carnivores had their place in the the 'circle of life' is not far-fetched.
Scar pushed his personal vendetta of envy [being rejected as heir when Simba was born] unto his own nephew and the hyena that it became poetic when they became his demise. He cared nothing for them. Scar's temporary rule made the lands barren because he had no restraint and no regulation. His intelligence was eclipsed by his folly.
Simba was the rightful ruler not only because of birthright but because he was raised in a culture of care. There should have been more on Mufasa's and Scar's backstory (which was probably better explained in the sequels) leading to why Scar and the hyenas were banished / exiled to the Dark Elephant Graveyard which is not considered part of the Kingdom / Pride Rock.
Simba returned because of his sense of responsibility and his culture of care winning out.
TIFFANY PERSAUD
Why doesn’t this comment have more likes?
Hyenas are necessary for the ecosystem
And in the real world lions steal a lot of the food of the hyenas
I always thought the hyenas were kickout because they had to many numbers and didn't respect the circle of life, so they over consumed the pridelands leading to scars rise.
There's so many layers to the lion king story it amazes me...
I always read as a morality tale about moderation, and Scar failures are because of overindulgence
Yet the first book of Plato's Republic is Socrates refutating Trasymachus' views that might makes right, so when you try to connect his critique of democracy with the principle of might makes right, while also commenting on his preference for your anachronistic misrepresentation of Sparta, you are trying to lump in two things that are not intrinsecally connected... Plato's philosopher king has nothing to do with a mighty lion on the top of the food chain...
Mufasa = Darth Vader
If Darth Vader was never a Sith (same voice actor)
I dont think movie makers were thinking about this when creating Lion King :D great job guys, as always spot on.
Wisecrack totally cracks my childhood :))
this feals like filmtheory
I have a small problem with this theory, as I've seen it a few times. Because the animals clearly do not have jobs, they just live. There's no economy because they are just animals. The movie is more about harmony. And can be compared to the Wolf Populations in America. Forests without wolves often look desolate and are overpopulated by deer. Once the wolves were re-introduced to these areas, life returned to the forests. This actually happened. And it feels that many of the themes are tailored to how the animals work (The Lion leader is always the strongest).
As for the Hyenas? The issue here is that Scar is lazy, it's shown that Scar takes all of the meat from the Hyenas, he regulates their food supply, when they are supposed to be scavengers. He forces them into poverty with the promise that they will one day become rich (corrupted American dream). This, you guys nailed. I think the issue that is presented here, is that we attempt to apply humanity to the Animals. Where the writers of Disney were trying to show how the Animal Kingdom worked. And that Scar is the "Human" in all of this. That's just how I saw it.
I would like to see you do a followup video about the themes of Lazy=bad. Which is the theme in the movie that I notice more. Simba, Timon, Pumba, Scar and the Hyenas are all Lazy at some point, and are seen as unhelpful members of the "Circle of life." they don't contribute to society.
There is however one thing to take notes of: sure, Disney goal was probably about showing how animals and life coexists. Except there's one little issue here; the lions here are the "kings", thus being superior to all other animals. This is a common animal stereotype, to call the lion the kinkg of the jungle, but in reality lions are actully scavegers (most of the time), just like hyenas are.
It makes you at least think that, for this lions in particular ro be called monarchs and protectors of the circle of life, thus having the respect and servility from all other animals, someone might have played with that concept to raise in power. Probably a long time ago, so much that no one, not even the current lions, remembers that and they just take it as just the way things always were...
But hey, maybe I'm just overthinking a Disney movie made for children xD
Wait hold up, Scar doesn't regulate their food supply does he? To me it seemed like he was bringing them food from the Pride lands, something they are not allowed to have. In the lions version of the circle of life, the heynas are meant to starve to death.
I mean that fits in with real world hyenas and lions as despite the myth, hyena are actually the other apex predator of the African plains, this often leads to fierce competition for food between lions and hyenas.
Loved it!!!
BTW I'd love you to perform a philosophical analysis based on "Good Omens" either the Series or the Novel itself. Regards from Mexico
Just in time for the holidays
Oh, a movie about becoming king preaches totalitarianism? Shocker.
You guys got this from Cracked, didn’t you?
Just watched Space Jam again recently. 100% holds up, a perfect light comedy that showcased a bunch of non-actors in very comedic performances. It never took itself too seriously and mocked the troupes of sports movies (inspirational locker room speech, an old companion from earlier that joins the team in the last act, etc)
Glaring flaw In your theory, scar MURDERED mufasa, instant 10/10 villain points!
Jokes on you, my childhood has already been ruined. :'(
The comments are.... angry? 8| I thought it was a good video....
A lot of people can't take criticism about the movies/stories/etc they like
And now I'll drown my childhood in Whiskey. Thanks Wisecrack! 🥃
"Everything bad that happened ever since" and you are putting in a picture of Jared Letos Joker.. I love you
As much as I love this film and was my childhood favorite, I grew up and realized how messed up the messages it sends are. And yes I didn’t get why hyenas were bad. Seemed like Scar in a way brought equality, bad deeds aside. Thanks for this video. Great nose dive into it :)
Scar didn’t bring equality though. He put himself above everyone else and also ate herbivores (hard to avoid if you’re a lion but still).
@@kangaroo9816 ok valid point. So both were bad in their own way.
@@Bashar3A I wouldn’t necessarily say bad. All words are man-made, just random assortments of sounds that carry arbitrarily assigned meaning. There are no ‘true’ names that capture the essence of the object that they refer to. The word Deutschland is just as random as any other, and not better or worse for it, from the objective standpoint.
Then again, I’m from the Czech Republic - and it sure is nice to be able to hear it sound similar in English to how it does in Czech. It’s completely irrational but what can you do :)
Misinterpreted Mufasa's words "When we die, our bodies become the grass".....He wasn't talking about the antelopes he and the lions ate and inevitably shatted out causing "cannibalism", but when ALL living things die, their bodies become the grass, or fertilizer for the grass.
Plato also views democracy as the best of the systems, but understood it has its inherent flaws. Good video, but the message was extremely poor.
I agree with your opinion. It's just another controversial mash for views. It's getting annoying lately. If anyone can use their imagination anything is controversial (any message getting twisted in the way anyone wants to)... so at the same time it means also nothing.
But it was indeed interesting to know the flaws of the democracy and I do support democracy but never seen what kind of flaws itself has.
I am sorry, but in which of his works did Plato compliment democracy and say it was the best system? His notion of perfect society presented in The Republic is as close to totalitarianism as it gets.
@Deon Denis In fact, in a democratic republic you also can make changes through things such as lobbying. Now, it is true that the politician you chose makes the decisions for you, but that is simply because you are not qualified to make them yourself. The average person knows little about how a state worls, all the bureaucracy, and even if our democracy were direct, that would require we get lots of political training and spend lots of time making decisions. Would it be worth it?
Representative democracy is not so time consuming, and requires less politicians.
jvstice56 your clarification was not needed and doesn’t change what Jared’s comment intended at all. He was making a joke
Scar to Mufasa: “You Like Huey Lewis and the News?!?”
Wish you guys would bring back 8-Bit philosophy
so Lion king is actually a creepy movie :))
It's nooot it's just the circle of life
DO PHILOSOPHY OF PUNISHER AND THE NETFLIX SERIES
Nigga it just came out. Give them time.
one thing i am wondering can you do a video on the philosophy of the manga Battle Angel Alita as it is going to have a live action movie adaptation in the summer of 2018.
I'm studying for my ethics exam and this video is a several papers on ethics in a nutshell
"Space Jam is a bad movie" disliked, negative commented, unsubscribed, Tumblr shamed, hate Tweeted.
Here's why this video is wrong and dangerous:
You assume out of materialistic bias that the different animals are different races or castes. They're NOT. They're different levels of competence. The lions would be tyrants if everyone was the same animal, but a lion literally IS at the top of the food chain (not in real life but in the movie and in folklore.) From your Incredibles video we can tell that you don't believe in natural differences between people or in different levels of competence. That is factually wrong. Some people are more competent than others, and in a just society, those people will rise to the top. The lions are clearly shown as being good-hearted, brave, strong, and wise. Being strong is btw not the same as being violent. The hyenas, on the other hand, represent people who don't have their act together, who are lazy, devious, resentful, incompetent etc. Scar is the black sheep in the lion family, with lots of intelligence but zero wisdom, and uses his wits to manipulate the loser hyenas into following him.
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner, as someone once said. What we have in America is a republic. We vote for representatives to avoid the tyranny of the majority. The Lion King symbolizes the communist nightmare: The breakdown of all values, all competence hierarchies; lions and hyenas (i.e. the competent and the incompetent) are both equal, but what happens is the state can't sustain itself, just like a communist state, and in the end the lions are forced to hunt more and more for less and less reward or admiration while the hyenas act as Scar's thugs. And the herds move on, just like people tried to flee communist countries, because there are no ideals and no one to look up to or aspire to be.
In our current social justice climate, people claim that everyone's equal and good and evil are just a matter of perspective and circumstance. That is wrong and deep down, everyone knows this, which is why The Lion King is such a powerful movie. You're not just a cog in a machine, but you do have a place and an optimal way to serve your community, and that is by aspiring to the best person you can be, the hero archetype, i.e Simba, Christ, Hercules, Thor etc. Once you get yourself in order, you are aligned with the right path, by definition, and symbolically speaking at least, "you are enlightened by God/ a higher power." Don't sit around chewing on a bone waiting for some devious despot to GIVE you your share. Work for and learn from people who are worthy of admiration and EARN your share.
Enter a name here But ethically speaking doesn't everyone have the right to live?
Everyone should have equal chances look at Trump who is trying to take away the opportunitys for ilegal inmigrants to have better lifes, thats fucking unfair and its people like you that with this its nature in law are wrong.
Of course. That's why the lions don't go after the hyenas. Mufasa leaves them alone, and even when they try to kill two lion cubs, he spares them because the cubs crossed their border.
Under Scar, however, everyone who stands in the way of his selfish power gets murdered.
Enter a name here Yes...but the point I'm driving at is that if people are simply left alone, than, as you said, "some people are more competent than others...and those will rise to the top," but then those incompetent will not be able to provide for themselves, like the hyenas could not. Now in a world like this, less competent people would not have the right to live, since they are unable to survive. So if you believe in this model, logically speaking, you believe that incompetent people deserve to die. (I say this in a observational manner. I am not trying to make you mad or offend you.)
Enter a name here on top of that the hyenas are forbidden from coming into the pride lands due to their incompetence as well as the fact that they cause a lot more harm than good. Look what happens after scar takes over and allow the hyenas to take over. The whole entire Place became desolate to the point where even the hyenas are starting the question their own motives and do see that scar was not good for anyone especially for them and actually turned out they realized that Mufasa despite being a strong ruler that push the hyenas away realize it was actually a benefit for them that they didn't take over the pride land because there is literally nothing left after they came and took over
Your have not ruined the Lion King for me but i am half way through The Republic. I'm not going to be able to think of anything but The Lion King when reading it now :). You guys are ace!.If it wasn't for your channel i probably would never have started to read any Plato. Every video you release gives me either something new to think about or a different angle to come at it from. Once again you guys are ace! Keep up the great work xxxx
It would be awesome if you make a video on Dororo. The 2019 anime was exceptional and I believe it could be a good source material to discuss about the moral dilemma of using Dororo for the benefit of Daigo’s people.
You should the Philosophy of Doki Doki Literature Club.
This would be way expand "the Philosophy of". Wisecrack focus only TV shows, movies, books. By doing a 'the Philosophy of" video on Doki Doki its gives the channels expand into the area of video games. Many games have their own deep rooted philosophy. Like the different fractions of groups in video games like: Stormcloaks or Imperials. The option of choice like in the truly matters; life is strange. Having multiple timelines or multiple save files affect the game as well like undertale or Doki-Doki.
I've been a fan of wisecrack for years and I'm suggesting that you guys can broaden in the channel by having video games featured.
That's not true
This just made me love the movie even more
You still didn't tell us why Simba is the villain.
Cowboy Bebop or Darker Than Black please!
how can you fucking put Bebop and DTB on the same level, asterof no bakayaro. dame..
no I didn't, i just find them to be really interesting with their concepts
like how Cowboy Bebop is more about letting go of the past to live for the future.
Darker Than Black is plays with the idea of loosing your humanity for power.
both are different from each other and i would like to see both of their ideas trough the philosophical lens of Wisecrack . that is all.
that is all fine. i just want to mess with you because darker than black is shit and bebop is a classic. not shit like black clover or sao but it's not good even.. and the philosophy of that is pretty wack and nonsensical. bebop on the other hand is quite interesting.
i have to disagree with you on darker than black. thou not as good as Cowboy Bebop. i really like the premise. It may not be original, but the way it handles it's premise is done differently making it stand out, and I really like the idea of the main character trying to give up his humanity in order to be more like a contractor, and I think that is really interesting. that's my stance in the series anyways.
SPACE JAM IS ONE OF THE BEST GODDAMN MOVIES EVER!!!!!!!!!!!
It was when I was a kid now it just cringy
Come on and slam
And welcome to the jam
It really isn't.
You ain't Charles Barkley!!!!!!
no matter what anyone says space jam is a masterpiece.
The hyenas were banished because they are both the only predators who would attack lion cubs, and because they don't wish to balance themselves into the Circle. The famine of Scar's rule was created by having an abundance of predators and not enough prey, turning the Pride Lands into another Elephant Graveyard.
Cannibalism with extra steps...BEST LINE EVER