Turquoise vs Longprimer
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- A comparison of the Cambridge Turquoise and Allan Longprimer. Both are excellent KJV's and are some of the best Bibles available.
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TURQUOISE may he best ever printed.
I like and have the TURQUOISE. Best in my opinion.
I have both but my Longprimer is the Sovereign in same Brown and my Turquoise is brown as well. I love both but Turquoise to me edges the win due to opaqueness and better paper although it’s 28 gsm. Turquoise also feel like authentic piece of history that is hard to put down. I’m impressed! Cambridge has shown me that you don’t need to add all of the bells and whistles to be amazing! Go Cambridge! Concord next!
I have the latest Longprimer (Chartfleet) 53C and Turquoise to compare. The paper in the Turquoise has a silkier feel to it while the Longprimer paper is slightly thicker but feels stiffer, as if it has some rice paper content to it. The brightness (whiteness) of the Turquoise paper along with the slightly darker typeset gives it a perfect contrast. The words just jump off the page. The font used in the Turquoise also just makes me happy to read, obviously a very subjective thing, but it just does.
Thanks for the comparison!
Thanks for posting. I have several premium Bibles and I know exactly what you mean about certain Bibles making you feel happy while reading them.
@@codpieceofjustice4595 Interesting you say that. When I was little I always heard about the Turquoise (the semi-precious stone) always making people smile or feel happy when they look at it.
I was literally looking for a video about this last night! Lol thanks for making this!
I would anyday take the Turquoise over the RL Allan... I like the Cambridge, I had the RL Allan. Good review!
I have them both, it is hard to decide which is my favorite. For reading, I prefer the Longprimer and for preaching, I prefer Turquoise.
When reading type size such as 10/11 the numbers on each side of the slash indicate different things. The 10 is the type size. The 11 indicates the leading
(pronounced led-ing, it refers to the extra bar of lead the typesetter added between lines of lead type) the leading is the amount of extra space between lines. The more leading the greater the space between lines. Such as 10/12, 2 extra points, 10/14, 4 extra points between lines. Hope that clarifies things a little.
I was curious about that - thank you!
Thanks
I was confused also.
Many THANKS.
Is it between lines OR between the next character?
Thanks again
Font is first thing I cheque. Then opacity. Then added white to paper ..I forget what its called. In most premium BIBLE s such as CAMBRIDGE. My favourite.
Cambridge wins easily. Better white space and leading.
I have both but if I had to choose 1 I would choose RL Allan due to having the black letter edition and having the dates on the top of the pages
This is a very helpful comparison, thank you
Thanks!
10 point font seems a bit low for a premium Allan bible
Plus floppy. Think I will skip Allan.
I have the 180 CBP in top grain cowhide and I love it. The only thing I dont love is red letter which I find annoying but other than that it is a great bible. The 10 point font makes it easy and a delight to read.
The only reason why I chose the Longprimer over the Turquoise is because of the black letter text throughout the Bible. I think Cambridge is doing a really bad job offering the Turquoise and Cameo in red letter and not black letter. TBS has a really good article explaining why Bibles should be black letter text only and I agree with them.
Never have liked the red letter. The least they can do is give you a choice. Not everyone needs to have it pointed out when Jesus is speaking.
@@stpierreforjesusthesavior984 true but I for one like it. Maybe a holdover from my first bible being red letter.
I have both and they are both lovely. I’ve used the longprimer a lot and it is a lovely reading bible. I only just got the turquoise but it looks lovely too. If you are in the uk try buying from a bookshop and haggling in price. I’ve found they will knock about 20% off or match prices and saves postage.
One of these days, I will get the Cambridge Turquoise.
I bought the CBP version of it...one of the very first. I gave it to my neighbor. Reason I couldn't use it was because the paper was too shiny/glare and the paper was too white and letter too bold. It all meant a LOT of contrast. Imagine taking a TV and turning the brightness and contrast all the way up and turning the lights off and watching it for hours on end....that's what it did to my eyes.
@@jkdbuck7670 I don't like the glossy paper CBP uses. That's what keeps me away from their Bibles. Rather spend a few extra $ for the Cambridge.
I noticed "GNAT" is in the LP concordance with it's one entry... lol. Irony?
The R L Allan Longprimer uses the Oxford text block while the Turquoise obviously uses the Cambridge text block. Can you do a video on the differences between the two? I would find that to be interesting.
Hey Randy good morning, I have the CBP. Turquoise Reference edition,wish I had purchased the full yapping one, but I do really like it. I had to put my Thompson Chain Reference aside because print was a bit small for these old eyes.
Hi Terence. I'm with you. The small Thompson font is the reason I started looking for a new Bible that led me to start Bible Buying Guide in the first place. I think you'll like the print in the new versions that start releasing this year. Instead of 8-point, the regular edition has a 9.5 font. I've already seen it and it's impressive. The large print will be 10.5, which matches the Maclaren.
Can you highlight in the Turquoise? I might get it. For highlighters I use Zebra Mildliner (double ended) and Zebra Zebrite (double ended). Those work well in my CSB (Holman, black and red text). How is the paper in the Turquoise?
Yes you can definitely highlight in the turquoise. The paper while thin is very opaque. It's a premium paper from France. I highlight with sharpie brush pens and 01 and 03 microns for notes.
Thank you for making this comparison, two awesome looking Bibles. For future reviews please slow down with your hands, your moving the Bibles so fast it's hard to see.
Thanks. Sorry about that.
I have the Cambridge Turquoise and the Allan longprimer 52....I like the Allan better, but the Cambridge is still a GREAT Bible....really can't go wrong with either one.
Why?
@@davegarciaofficial if you are asking why I like the Alan better it is because of the meriva calfskin
@@randywheeler3914 the Allan calfskin is nice. I will say though that the Cambridge turquoise with full yapp in calfskin is probably just as nice. So then it becomes more apples to apples with the Cambridge being easier to read for me :)
I don't like yapp. So go w TURQUOISE. Any day.
OOPS!!, Randy's video automatically switch to your video unknowingly. Nevertheless, I am also a subscriber of your channel and wouldn't mind your feedback on this question.
Blessings
I love the turquoise for I am studying bible numbers and having the whole Bible chapter #'s by normal book chapters helps alot when finding the 1000th or the 666th chpt.
I have the Cambridge turquoise in calf split. the stiff cover is perfect for holding the Bible while preaching if you're into that as i am
That's awesome! I love a stiffer cover.
Hi Randy, Is there a reason why some of the Cambridge Turquoise words are joined together and is this a flaw that is widelyacceptedby people in the Christian community? Maybe since the the print of this bible is from the 20's, Cambridge decide decided to keep the print in its original format.
Thank you for the excellent reviews on God's gift to humanity
Thanks, Errol! Cambridge did keep the original setting of the 100-year-old Turquoise layout. This is actually a scan of an older printing. It was typeset by hand with moveable type. The large font, small word count on each line, and the difficulty of targeting a specific page count was a huge challenge. Reducing the spacebetweenthewords was, unfortunately, sometimes their best option.
Randy I was wondering on you opinion regarding color for Allan 53. I had the black speckled 53c but someone bought it from me because they really wanted it and I felt it was too thick to carry. I am going to get the 53 because I like the paper thickness. I am not sure if I should get a navy blue or black. Black is pretty safe. My ideal bible is a Cambridge large print with nicer paper and great leather. Basically if Allan made the cambridge large print. Thank you
I haven't seen them in person, but from the photos, I like the blue and the black a lot. I actually bought a used 53 in black that's on its way to me now. I think both are great choices, but black is always a safe color. I'm looking forward to seeing the paper on this one.
@@BibleBuyingGuide is the 53 you got older. Making the paper different. Black is safer and since they are expensive I will not be getting multiple colors just to have them. I would buy a grey one if they came back out. I will say the speckled was nice looking but I prefer the red and gold. I would like it if Allan makes the red under gold a little richer in color instead of a salmon red. I do hope you put up a review. It give me and others a chance to experience bibles that we may not be able to afford or have access to.
@@LegBuilder Thanks! My 53br is the older edition with 32gsm paper. The one arriving today is the newer edition with 36gsm. I will be reviewing it and showing it in comparison videos.
I currenlty have the Cambridge text edition Large print, Moroccon leather as my favourite due to the size and the fact that all that extra bloating of concordance and maps are all removed, so nice and light and easy to hold. My Concord Wide-Margin has too many extra pages and just so uncomfortable to read in a couch setting.
Yeah, the Cambridge and Allen bibles. Are as big or bigger than my Nelson 12 point giant print. Nelson has a premium thinline 10 point which is similar to what you have. And its far more comfortable to hold and read.
But you do miss out on the really good reference systems that sometimes explain what certain things mean for my KJV in the thinline. But they do add too much bloat. All that stuff should be a companion book. Not part of the Scripture itself. Just my opinion on it. I prefer text only also.
Still to date. There is only 1 bible I have that is personal size, and also 10 point. But its not a thinline. Personal size, thinline, 10 point text. Is about impossible if not impossible to find in a premium bible.
I’ve always thought it strange that the Longprimer does not include italics. Why? Some of their other bibles do and they are all Oxford texts.
I think it was a conscious choice to make the text as readable as possible while still remaining a reference bible. Whether folks realize it or not, the italics DO create a bit of a bumpier reading experience. And while many of us KJB readers have gotten used to it, the bumps are still there. The LP Oxford text is definitely a smoother reading experience while still retaining a classic feel.
Also, most avid KJB readers just accept the italicized words as part of the translated text (just like a ESV, NLT, or NIV reader does).
Where can I get this wonderful HOLY BIBLE ??
Hi. The links are in the description.
I prefer the Turquoise. I love the Highland Goatskin of the Allan, but I prefer the added words of the translators to be italicized, if for no other reason than tradition.
The main difference in these two Bibles is that you can buy the turquoise in the United States and the other one you cannot. Also if I ever buy another turquoise it will probably be one from church Bible publishing and since I've already done that if I do buy another one will be from Amazon in a calfskin cover and not the Goatskin.
The calf skin supports the text block when opened. Not everyone wants a sagging Bible.
why calfskin over the goat?
I don't like floppy or yapp. Will buy Cambridge in calfskin in future. I have a great CONCORD and large PRINT and TURQUOISE which is not so floppy..I got a floppy Quentel from evangelical bible but damaged so will stay w Amazon. Free returns if damaged and ups pick up next day. Evangelical bible is service with a sneer. I am too old for that. Retired baby boomers remember better times.
I actually prefer the natural goatskin to highland goatskin and to be honest, highland goatskin is way over rated in my personal opinion.
Highland is natural goat skin, its totally unprocessed with any tooling that is why it is so flexible. It's just the finest selection on the leather.
Overrated?? The Allan highland goat is the best in the biz.
Why isnt revelation in Red?? Very critical mistake!.
It used to bug me too, but what Cambridge did for a while, and may still do, is use the red to represent Jesus' words during his earthly ministry.
@@shaneblue4966 That is exactly what I know, the words of Our Lord are in Red.
@royal priest Red lettering, also known as "Rubrication," was introduced by a publisher, Louis Klopsch, to represent the "blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Mt 26:28). Because the new covenant was sealed with the blood of our Saviour, Klopsch used the red lettering to remind readers of that reality in a striking way. The first rubricated New Testament was published in 1899. It's both a devotional design choice and also serves a practical purpose to help a reader immediately find the words of Christ. Along with chapters, verse numbers, concordances, and section headings, its main purpose was to aid the reader in navigation. It does not indicate that the red-letter text carries more weight than the rest of the Scriptures.
Very few of the Bibles I own use red lettering, but when it's done well (preferably, in a darker crimson) I enjoy it, and it does serve its purpose well when I'm trying to find a quote from the Lord, without knowing the specific verse number.
The TURQUOISE you CAN read the concordance. The Quentel you cannot.
Definitely Turquoise. At least it leaves the holy text alone, and doesn't change italics to regular which is abominable. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus are definitely NOT the best manuscripts. They are the worst.
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