@@garrett69 I loved Cadets' Appalachian Spring. It was a great show. It was clean. The drill was beautiful. However, this SCV show's GE was far, far beyond Cadets'. So, I 100% agree that SCV should have taken it this year. Having said that, the '89 Phantom show deserved to beat out SCV's Phantom . . . at least it did on Finals Night. Isn't opinion fun?
This is the standard of talent and power that is lacking today. Everyone who had anything to do with the production of this masterpiece. Is an ICON. They still cast a shadow on today’s DCI. I was a freshman at Wilcox high school. This Corp was god to me.
My first junior drum crops show was at West Chester College in August 1987. The crowd included 3000 band students attending a band camp at the college and the Philadelphia Eagles were also there at the same time for training camp. My point of reference at that time were the senior corps and I was very skeptical about what these kids could do... The show was great and then.... SCV came onto the field.. The opening from the contra line felt like a freight train running over our heads and into the stands like a giant wave, in unison every member of the audience rose as one ..... Something special was about to happen and by the time the brass line made the snap turn, and moved towards the stand the kids behind me were screaming and crying .... the music in front and the screaming behind was just deafening,,,,, by the end of the show I was in tears, and shaking from emotion... At that moment, I knew it was over, I was hooked on DCI... 30 years since and seeing over a hundred shows, no performance has ever come as close to this from an emotional impact that it had on me. To this day, that show is the greatest show I have ever seen or heard,,, seeing this again still gives me goosebumps... All I can say is that you had to be there to know it...
What I loved about the old school hornlines is you felt the music as much as you heard it. Those G bugles punched you in the chest when those kids took it to FFF......
steven marcalus My God your post gave me CHILLS! I started watching DCI in 1987 and it has remained an obsession! I'm just disappointed in the current direction. I'm fine with the evolution in drill, but my God the music IMHO (save for a few corps numbers here and there) has suffered greatly. It becomes glaringly obvious when you look back on these older performances! Thanks for your post!
I had a very similar experience in Denver. For some reason I can’t remember (must have been weather), the competition in Utah where I live was canceled that year and I didn’t get to see this show so I decided to drive to Denver. A few years before in my high school marching band, we had played Russian Christmas Music and Great Gate of Kiev in separate shows so I really wanted to see SCV do it. Like you, when those first low contra notes sounded, the hairs raised all over my body and my right knee started to shake and , like you, by the end I had tears running down my face. So glad I drove the 500 miles to Denver. I’ll never forget it. Still my favorite show of all time.....and like you, it still gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.
To me, this is the quintessential SCV moment of the '80s. Having marched Cavies in the '80s and '90s, we, of course, point to moments that say, "that's all Cavalier, there." If I marched SCV, though, this would be one of those moments for me. It's one of my favorite openers of any corps in any decade. Great job!
1987 was one of my favorite years for drum corps. Between this show and Garfield/Bergenfield/Allentown/Bergen County/Hackensack or where the hell ever they will be from next year, I looked forward to every performance. Fans nearly got into fistfights in 1987 over who had the better show, SCV or Cadets, both were fantastic performances.
After seeing this opener in Allentown that summer with a couple of friends, I remember we just sat there and didn't say a word to each other. We had just witnessed greatness.
After all these years I just realized that the sopranos' move up front-- in opposite directions away from the 50 that begins at 0:39, and has them going into the curvilinear form hooking up with the contras--- is a dead on duplicate of the opening move SCV did during the first 32 counts of Fanfare & Allegro in 1984, just moved closer to the front sideline. I marched that show and many of my former '84 colleagues I had the honor of marching with aged out in '87, and it's neat to see their faces in this clip.
I saw this late in the season. It was one of the most memorable shows that I have ever seen. When the drumline came out from under the tent, it was magical!
JUST listen to those contras about the last 1:15 or so !!!! Now I know what they mean when they say "play like you've got 18 Russian big ones !!!" Holy Schneike !!!!!
If I recall King’s K90 contra bugles made their debut this year. The horn had a massive bore - really made you learn how to breathe and fill the horn - but then oh my what a sound!
The pinnacle of this art form was achieved on this day, in that night, with these young people, in this music which is full of power, full of beauty, full of magic. This deserves attention.
Then, at some point in the future, somebody said: "Hey, that percussion is way too colorful and sparkly and interesting. Let's just have a bunch of marimbas playing the same thing." And so they did. Then somebody noticed the thrilling, warm, powerful low brass, and said, "Hmm. Gotta get rid of that, or at least cover it up with something cheap, easy, and annoying." This was harder to do! But a switch to nasal-sounding indoor instruments, and a quick trip to Guitar Center for an amp and a Casio keyboard did the trick. And at last, all was new and lame. Praise be.
I have stood and screamed (and cried) only a few times in my life at a drum corps show. I was there in Madison and this was one of them. I have it on my iPhone and when I am heading to a meeting, I cannot play it any louder.
Along with Muchachos "Pictures of Spain" this is one of my favorite openers of all time! Different times and styles, but they both punch you in the face with pure energy!
When I learned a technique at my college we call "freeze spin" that's basically the same but bringing your upper body around too, I immediately thought of this moment for how snappy it should be. It's so fun, and I don't recall seeing this in any other shows
Going back to the g Bugle years wow contras amazing at 2:34 great sound you got my blood pumping at that moment!! this is one of the best openers Ive ever seen the gradual build up from the horn line and drum line great job to all of you
this opener at first you wonder where its going, then it keeps building and building and the more you enjoy. Saved to my favorites, and I keep reminding myself to buy the album.
Through the years I keep coming back to this totally inspirational and dynamic opener . . . . it's the BEST I've ever seen including right up thru 2019 AND I've been in drum corps since 1955.
Ah, @1:11, the unmistakable snarl of a contrabass bugle. It is odd how our perceptions of acceptable tone quality alter with the instrument. Yes, the sound is definitely out of control, and if it had been one of my contrabass players, I probably would've gone up one side of them and down the other after the show. On the other hand, if it was a bass trombone player making that sound, we would all be worshipping at their feet! I would be lying if I said I didn't miss hearing that sound every now and then...
BrassTeacher As a former contra player myself, I love how the contras are used in this. SNARL is the perfect description of that unmistakable sound that shakes you to your core...that edginess seems to be missing since the switch to Bb horns.
Some of my all-time favorite DCI shows were those that did not win championships. This is one of them. I'd love it if someone posted the whole show. From beginning to end, it's both beautiful and powerful.
Having played Russian Christmas Music in a wind ensemble setting, THIS is what I listen to when I want to recapture the feeling of performing it. Chills, every time.
As far as I'm concerned this is one of the top three openers of all time, right up there with Rocky Point Holiday (Cadets) and (here's an oldie for you) Kenton's "Fanfare for the New" by Hutchinson Sky Riders (1970s)
You just can't pump up the volume enough for this show.. I have Great Gate blasting away in the car and punch the voulm at the push; by God if I didn't blow a speaker!
I don't remember if it was 1986 or 1987, but I was in the parking lot next to Camp Randall Stadium in Madison, WI. I listened to the SCV horn line warming up (just simple chords), and it gave me goosebumps.
@Marcus Jones I assume you're talking about 2:23. Yeah, that's kinda nutz given the level of Vanguard. Maybe last to make the cut gets last choice of uniform? I marched for the Troopers that year. I was fitted for my uniform at Jim Jones' house. Mrs. Jones hemmed my uniform pants and shortened the sleeves on my jacket as both were too long. Not really sure why other corps had folks running around in hight waters.
The Garfield performance on that night, far surpassed competition, recognition of other corps. All that existed that night during that performance, was us all together as one. You could feel each and every member on the field. It's one of those rare special moments and it elevates you way past the reality of a judged competition to the beauty and freedom to just perform, fuck the numbers. That was a great drum corps performance by SCV, but an amaaaaazing performance by Garfield that night. The spread should've been more.
Oh Christ; this would be so great with flutes and violins! there should be sing and skate board ramps to run up!!!! Yeah, now we're talk'n first class crap
It was more than a distraction and dimed the quality of the shows in the 4 yrs that Royer focused on the gauty scabbed together uniforms and goofy broom/'magic' stunts. I never heard comments but for two different instructors that they wanted to stick with the clean uniforms.... The gold overlays were a joke! Sorry, it's a bad way to follow up with my other comment :-(
Great corps and great show..BUT..why for the love of god is there always a guy in these old school SCV videos who is wearing pants two sizes too big and about 4 inches too short? While this is great history, I accept that time marches on. I enjoy what the corps of today are doing just as much.
Marcus Jones that same individual with the "shorter" pants who does the Left Flank from Hell is John C who marched SCV euphonium from 83-87; he is a super guy and to this day even ribs himself about the pant length. A lot of the guys I marched with in 84 & 85 aged out in this show and it's great to see so many of my friends be a part of this historical performance.
You never know during what uniform problems can happen...could be someone had a growing spurt....someone was replaced during tour....I know it can be a distraction...but, the show must go on....I lost my shoes on tour and had to use black socks to cover tennies....it was a temporary fix, but it worked
Yes. Joe somehow lost his hat at the warmup. The general consensus is that someone probably stole it. But no one noticed, except when you see this video, and he was such a chill guy it didn’t phase him one bit.
If you look closely, you will see the words City appearing before 88. The 88 finals were in Kansas City so I imagine that complete sign was advertising next year's DCI finals.
No sir. Cadets Appalachia Spring was also an all-time classic and deserved to win. Losing by a tenth of one point, both Vanguard and Cadets were a worthy champion.
I also started during the tic era. A friend of mine who marched this show still has his hat and the linings inside them were slippery nylon. It also looks too big on her so maybe it was a last minute replacement or she lost a hair clip (I marched with her in a prior year and she always wore her long hair up during shows.) The comment that "and that's why you're in 2nd place" is utter nonsense.
“And that’s why you’re in 2nd place.” 😂😂😂 This was 1987, not 1977. The reason we came in 2nd is because Garfield was better, not because Serena adjusted her hat.
If you're referring to the "flat bells" at the very beginning I believe that was a "call to prayer" used in Russian Orthodoxy. SCV's director of the time was all about historical accuracy and wrote most of SCV's arrangements which were tweaked as the season went on.
I’m the one playing them. They represented church bells. How do they ruin it when they’re literally solo? I think you’re talking about the scale runs at the end of the piece. That was a micing issue, I presume. How else do a couple of bell players overplay THAT horn line? :)
WHOLE NOTE (Overblow); WHOLE NOTE (Blast); WHOLE NOTE (Tone quality out the window); WHOLE NOTE (PITCH!); WHOLE NOTE (Ensemble tear); WHOLE NOTE (Drum Major throws his hat and looks at the audience thinking, "No. We aren't going to lose by 0.1.") :::Cut to "...Kiev": WHOLE NOTE (Out of tune); WHOLE NOTE (missed the note entirely); WHOLE NOTE (Really. It would be louder if it were in tune). :::Cut to, "In 2nd place, with a score of 97.8: Santa Clara Vanguard!"
The fact that Garfield had to beat them by 0.8 in the 3 drum captions to win by 0.1 still stymies me. This overblown, underwritten slob of a show is the most overrated old-school mess in DCI history -- with Phantom '08 right behind. Ugh.
Vee 10 Some of the comments are HILARIOUS. I guarantee, 99% of the people making negative comments about SC or the Cadets A) didn’t see any of the top 12 shows live in 87. If ya did see it live, that’s because your corps went on when it was still light out. SC was still at the housing site when y’all were changing after your “finals” show and B) have never marched a Corps that was even in contention much less in the running for one of the best shows of all time. Cadets were insane! So was phantom, Cavs, Suncoast, Madison any top 12 Corps crushes and for you to take swipes from the couch 30+ years later reveals more about you character and integrity than anything. Life got you down? You’ll get through it. I believe in you. Maybe even more than you believe in yourself. BTW, if you didn’t march Cadets ‘87, no one cares what you have to say. If you did March Cadets 87 you’d keep spit cave shut.
pure balls to the wall one of the finest openers ever in DCI history Gail was correct this season was the epitome of Drum corp shows of shows.
This show was way better than Cadets' Appalachian Spring, SCV should have taken the title for '87.
@@garrett69 I loved Cadets' Appalachian Spring. It was a great show. It was clean. The drill was beautiful. However, this SCV show's GE was far, far beyond Cadets'. So, I 100% agree that SCV should have taken it this year. Having said that, the '89 Phantom show deserved to beat out SCV's Phantom . . . at least it did on Finals Night. Isn't opinion fun?
It’s the beauty of subjectivity. SCV could not March and the .1 is funny. They were so good, but the rules are the rules and it was a crazy night.
When the battery comes out of the tunnel, I have chills.. One of the best performances ever.. always brings tears to my eyes..
I'd much rather watch this 100 times in a row than watch 3/4 of the boring ass shows out there today even once.
This is the standard of talent and power that is lacking today. Everyone who had anything to do with the production of this masterpiece. Is an ICON. They still cast a shadow on today’s DCI. I was a freshman at Wilcox high school. This Corp was god to me.
My first junior drum crops show was at West Chester College in August 1987. The crowd included 3000 band students attending a band camp at the college and the Philadelphia Eagles were also there at the same time for training camp. My point of reference at that time were the senior corps and I was very skeptical about what these kids could do... The show was great and then.... SCV came onto the field.. The opening from the contra line felt like a freight train running over our heads and into the stands like a giant wave, in unison every member of the audience rose as one ..... Something special was about to happen and by the time the brass line made the snap turn, and moved towards the stand the kids behind me were screaming and crying .... the music in front and the screaming behind was just deafening,,,,, by the end of the show I was in tears, and shaking from emotion... At that moment, I knew it was over, I was hooked on DCI... 30 years since and seeing over a hundred shows, no performance has ever come as close to this from an emotional impact that it had on me. To this day, that show is the greatest show I have ever seen or heard,,, seeing this again still gives me goosebumps... All I can say is that you had to be there to know it...
What I loved about the old school hornlines is you felt the music as much as you heard it. Those G bugles punched you in the chest when those kids took it to FFF......
steven marcalus My God your post gave me CHILLS! I started watching DCI in 1987 and it has remained an obsession! I'm just disappointed in the current direction. I'm fine with the evolution in drill, but my God the music IMHO (save for a few corps numbers here and there) has suffered greatly. It becomes glaringly obvious when you look back on these older performances! Thanks for your post!
I had a very similar experience in Denver. For some reason I can’t remember (must have been weather), the competition in Utah where I live was canceled that year and I didn’t get to see this show so I decided to drive to Denver. A few years before in my high school marching band, we had played Russian Christmas Music and Great Gate of Kiev in separate shows so I really wanted to see SCV do it. Like you, when those first low contra notes sounded, the hairs raised all over my body and my right knee started to shake and , like you, by the end I had tears running down my face. So glad I drove the 500 miles to Denver. I’ll never forget it. Still my favorite show of all time.....and like you, it still gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.
Thanks for sharing your story. I saw the show live and I know what you are saying.
To me, this is the quintessential SCV moment of the '80s. Having marched Cavies in the '80s and '90s, we, of course, point to moments that say, "that's all Cavalier, there." If I marched SCV, though, this would be one of those moments for me. It's one of my favorite openers of any corps in any decade. Great job!
1987 was one of my favorite years for drum corps. Between this show and Garfield/Bergenfield/Allentown/Bergen County/Hackensack or where the hell ever they will be from next year, I looked forward to every performance. Fans nearly got into fistfights in 1987 over who had the better show, SCV or Cadets, both were fantastic performances.
I remember my black eye. Hard to beat SCV that year. even if they didn't win because it was pure magic.
After seeing this opener in Allentown that summer with a couple of friends, I remember we just sat there and didn't say a word to each other. We had just witnessed greatness.
and that folks is why I marched SCV...
Eric Bolivar Jonz!
Me, too!!! Watched this show 1,000 times. Wore out my VHS.
After all these years I just realized that the sopranos' move up front-- in opposite directions away from the 50 that begins at 0:39, and has them going into the curvilinear form hooking up with the contras--- is a dead on duplicate of the opening move SCV did during the first 32 counts of Fanfare & Allegro in 1984, just moved closer to the front sideline. I marched that show and many of my former '84 colleagues I had the honor of marching with aged out in '87, and it's neat to see their faces in this clip.
I saw this late in the season. It was one of the most memorable shows that I have ever seen. When the drumline came out from under the tent, it was magical!
Yes, quite the unveil!
You said it best.
Those contras are BEAST! At the time, I would have loved to march in this line...30+ years later..I still wish!
They made pipe organs jealous
They were so badass... when they were on the calendar, I was just "oh well, maybe well get second "
I literally get chills every time.
i dont
JUST listen to those contras about the last 1:15 or so !!!! Now I know what they mean when they say "play like you've got 18 Russian big ones !!!" Holy Schneike !!!!!
If I recall King’s K90 contra bugles made their debut this year. The horn had a massive bore - really made you learn how to breathe and fill the horn - but then oh my what a sound!
The pinnacle of this art form was achieved on this day, in that night, with these young people, in this music which is full of power, full of beauty, full of magic. This deserves attention.
rs272r and second place. Don’t forget second place.
Vee 10 again, Ouch!
Those growling contras!
Also, the best ever drum-major-hat-discard at the very end. (Not kidding. It was slick!)
Then, at some point in the future, somebody said:
"Hey, that percussion is way too colorful and sparkly and interesting. Let's just have a bunch of marimbas playing the same thing." And so they did.
Then somebody noticed the thrilling, warm, powerful low brass, and said,
"Hmm. Gotta get rid of that, or at least cover it up with something cheap, easy, and annoying."
This was harder to do! But a switch to nasal-sounding indoor instruments, and a quick trip to Guitar Center for an amp and a Casio keyboard did the trick.
And at last, all was new and lame. Praise be.
one of the best openings, PERIOD. The drumline one sticking at the end, had me up from my seat.
They should have been in first Place with this great show !
80's was such a pivotal decade in the Drum Corps movement.
I have stood and screamed (and cried) only a few times in my life at a drum corps show.
I was there in Madison and this was one of them.
I have it on my iPhone and when I am heading to a meeting, I cannot play it any louder.
Along with Muchachos "Pictures of Spain" this is one of my favorite openers of all time! Different times and styles, but they both punch you in the face with pure energy!
After all these years I'm still singing pictures of Spain in my head. Love it
My high school played Pictures of Spain as an opener. Loved it!
@G. Adamson Mine too! Fall 1981.
One of my favorite openers EVER!! And that hip-ball change at 2:27...epic marching technique!!
YES! I always watch for that hip-ball change (even though you can't help but see it) every time I watch this show. Love it!
When I learned a technique at my college we call "freeze spin" that's basically the same but bringing your upper body around too, I immediately thought of this moment for how snappy it should be. It's so fun, and I don't recall seeing this in any other shows
One of my favorites. The build up in the first minutes is how a top show should be.
Oh...Dear HEAVEN!!! I SO much LOVE Santa Clara Vanguard!!!!
G bugles. The K90 contras. Pure Magic.
We’re they kanstul? Awesome deep sound.
@@barrypelham3237 Ours were made by King. I believe SCV’s were too. Massive bore, light silver plate, hard to keep clean but sounded wonderful
@@kascinoh1 definitely agree on sound. Good old G’s
Remember when individual marching technique was taught and positively adjudicated? Pepperage Farms does. And so do I. This was fantastic.
To be the drum major for this show must have been awe-inspiring. Like being a conductor for a world class symphony.
Going back to the g Bugle years wow contras amazing at 2:34 great sound you got my blood pumping at that moment!! this is one of the best openers Ive ever seen the gradual build up from the horn line and drum line great job to all of you
did i say opener i meant closer
@Ericb2424 No...you meant opener!
I marched Crossmen, and I am an SCV enthusiast. This makes me sooooooo happy!
What a great opener.
One of there best shows
This will never not be my favorite show of all time.
this opener at first you wonder where its going, then it keeps building and building and the more you enjoy. Saved to my favorites, and I keep reminding myself to buy the album.
Legendary opener. Thank you SCV. This never gets old.
This was a life changing show. It ignited a love for music and the activity for me. Thank God for drum corps and marching band.
A CLASSIC!!!!!!
!!!
This is reallllllllll fucking drum corps
G bugle goodness.....
The finest show ever put on a field.
Through the years I keep coming back to this totally inspirational and dynamic opener . . . . it's the BEST I've ever seen including right up thru 2019 AND I've been in drum corps since 1955.
And I love that mid-horn line at the climax.
No mics, no ballet for 2 minutes just pure power.
Ah, @1:11, the unmistakable snarl of a contrabass bugle. It is odd how our perceptions of acceptable tone quality alter with the instrument. Yes, the sound is definitely out of control, and if it had been one of my contrabass players, I probably would've gone up one side of them and down the other after the show. On the other hand, if it was a bass trombone player making that sound, we would all be worshipping at their feet! I would be lying if I said I didn't miss hearing that sound every now and then...
BrassTeacher As a former contra player myself, I love how the contras are used in this. SNARL is the perfect description of that unmistakable sound that shakes you to your core...that edginess seems to be missing since the switch to Bb horns.
Some of my all-time favorite DCI shows were those that did not win championships. This is one of them. I'd love it if someone posted the whole show. From beginning to end, it's both beautiful and powerful.
Oh those lovely, powerful contras starting at about 2:17
Wonder how many modern tubas would be required to produce that glorious sound
Having played Russian Christmas Music in a wind ensemble setting, THIS is what I listen to when I want to recapture the feeling of performing it. Chills, every time.
Just goosebumps... amazing!
Gorgeous SCV perfection. Saw this show in Boomington, IN that year. One of the classiest things ever put on a drum corps field. 🤩👍
So good the directions changes... 🤤
As far as I'm concerned this is one of the top three openers of all time, right up there with Rocky Point Holiday (Cadets) and (here's an oldie for you) Kenton's "Fanfare for the New" by Hutchinson Sky Riders (1970s)
I kinda like Phantom opening with Nessun Dorma in 91....
billock sorry but "Fanfare for the New" in 1973 was not by the Hutchinson Sky Ryders, you are off by about 60 miles Great Bend Ks. Argonne Rebels.
billock Rocky Point!
Blue Devils played Fanfare For The New as their opener in 87 as well. That one is a personal guilty pleasure for me.
You just can't pump up the volume enough for this show.. I have Great Gate blasting away in the car and punch the voulm at the push; by God if I didn't blow a speaker!
I don't remember if it was 1986 or 1987, but I was in the parking lot next to Camp Randall Stadium in Madison, WI. I listened to the SCV horn line warming up (just simple chords), and it gave me goosebumps.
Chris Halkides Had to be 1986. The sonority was amazing. This shit was overblown, out of tune and just splatted.
Vee 10 ouch 🙁
@@ImVee10 jealous dickwad
@@arfshesaid4325 Yeah, I’m so jealous of shitty tone quality.
Merry Christmas...indeed.
magnificent!
I'll never understand why SCV got rid of their male rifle line two years later...
Had to play this for concert this year
SCV should have WON this SHOW HANDS DOWN over the Cadets ! The Opener was the BEST EVER !
TBH I’ve never seen the Garfield 87 show maybe once or twice 🤷🏿♂️ this will carry me until I’m gone
woah those contras f""king balls to the walls man hell yeahhh !!! who says g bugles dont sound good one of the best openers of any show ever...
G bugles don’t sound good…they sound GREAT!! Grrrrowwwlllll!
@Marcus Jones I assume you're talking about 2:23. Yeah, that's kinda nutz given the level of Vanguard. Maybe last to make the cut gets last choice of uniform? I marched for the Troopers that year. I was fitted for my uniform at Jim Jones' house. Mrs. Jones hemmed my uniform pants and shortened the sleeves on my jacket as both were too long. Not really sure why other corps had folks running around in hight waters.
I was saying the CADETS SHOW BORING 🥱🥱🥱🥱To SCV I FELL ASLEEP 😵😵😵😵during the SHOW , There was now comparing the 2 of Them !
Wonder how many hernias were caused by that pivot at 2 27
Aside from the skateboard helmets this was a great corps
I can't believe this lost to Cadets.
The Garfield performance on that night, far surpassed competition, recognition of other corps. All that existed that night during that performance, was us all together as one. You could feel each and every member on the field. It's one of those rare special moments and it elevates you way past the reality of a judged competition to the beauty and freedom to just perform, fuck the numbers. That was a great drum corps performance by SCV, but an amaaaaazing performance by Garfield that night. The spread should've been more.
@@JNZEE36 You have your opinion, I have mine.
Only lost because of Garfields drumline which were far superior. Plus Garfield were top draw that year!
Oh Christ; this would be so great with flutes and violins! there should be sing and skate board ramps to run up!!!! Yeah, now we're talk'n first class crap
HOPPIE! get offa Scott's account and let him back to the keyboard!
No
I know it's old skool, but is there a better example of foot technique anywhere, than at 2:26 on this video? I say nay, nay.
I replayed that moment like 6 times in a row. Wow!
I would point to Madison of the same era as a contender, but doubtless, it was spectacular.
Yeah, definitely one of my favorite "marching moments".
It was more than a distraction and dimed the quality of the shows in the 4 yrs that Royer focused on the gauty scabbed together uniforms and goofy broom/'magic' stunts. I never heard comments but for two different instructors that they wanted to stick with the clean uniforms.... The gold overlays were a joke! Sorry, it's a bad way to follow up with my other comment :-(
Yep…at the time, I thought the “magic tricks” were cheesy showmanship…boy…do they seem tame to what goes on today!
SCV 90-91
This is good and all, but WHY are their pants so short?
Great corps and great show..BUT..why for the love of god is there always a guy in these old school SCV videos who is wearing pants two sizes too big and about 4 inches too short?
While this is great history, I accept that time marches on. I enjoy what the corps of today are doing just as much.
Marcus Jones that same individual with the "shorter" pants who does the
Left Flank from Hell is John C who marched SCV euphonium from 83-87; he is a super guy and to this day even ribs himself about the pant length. A lot of the guys I marched with in 84 & 85 aged out in this show and it's great to see so many of my friends be a part of this historical performance.
Marcus, I remember YOUR uniform not fitting all that well either! :)
BrassTeacher I had my issues, true..but I never made the broadcast!
You never know during what uniform problems can happen...could be someone had a growing spurt....someone was replaced during tour....I know it can be a distraction...but, the show must go on....I lost my shoes on tour and had to use black socks to cover tennies....it was a temporary fix, but it worked
It looks like the snare drummer on the end doesn’t have his hat on. Does anyone know the story behind that? Or am I mistaken?
You are not mistaken
Yes. Joe somehow lost his hat at the warmup. The general consensus is that someone probably stole it. But no one noticed, except when you see this video, and he was such a chill guy it didn’t phase him one bit.
Um at 0:06 it says 88’... are we sure it’s 87’?
Absolutely sure this is '87 ...'88 was the first of two Phantom of the Opera years.
If you look closely, you will see the words City appearing before 88. The 88 finals were in Kansas City so I imagine that complete sign was advertising next year's DCI finals.
Still hurts to see this. biggest rip off in DCI History
No sir. Cadets Appalachia Spring was also an all-time classic and deserved to win. Losing by a tenth of one point, both Vanguard and Cadets were a worthy champion.
When that girl in the pit fixes her hat, it irks me every time.
And that's why you're in 2nd place.
@Dave Martinez As someone who started marching when the tic system was still in place, little details like that still make me cringe!
I also started during the tic era. A friend of mine who marched this show still has his hat and the linings inside them were slippery nylon. It also looks too big on her so maybe it was a last minute replacement or she lost a hair clip (I marched with her in a prior year and she always wore her long hair up during shows.) The comment that "and that's why you're in 2nd place" is utter nonsense.
“And that’s why you’re in 2nd place.” 😂😂😂 This was 1987, not 1977. The reason we came in 2nd is because Garfield was better, not because Serena adjusted her hat.
The Cadets Show SO BORING Compared to SCV I
and this is why you don't f*ck with scv
those damn bells ruin the beginning of this song.................clanging away................good gosh
If you're referring to the "flat bells" at the very beginning I believe that was a "call to prayer" used in Russian Orthodoxy. SCV's director of the time was all about historical accuracy and wrote most of SCV's arrangements which were tweaked as the season went on.
Whatever. It ruins the recording
I’m the one playing them. They represented church bells. How do they ruin it when they’re literally solo? I think you’re talking about the scale runs at the end of the piece. That was a micing issue, I presume. How else do a couple of bell players overplay THAT horn line? :)
WHOLE NOTE (Overblow); WHOLE NOTE (Blast); WHOLE NOTE (Tone quality out the window); WHOLE NOTE (PITCH!); WHOLE NOTE (Ensemble tear); WHOLE NOTE (Drum Major throws his hat and looks at the audience thinking, "No. We aren't going to lose by 0.1.")
:::Cut to "...Kiev": WHOLE NOTE (Out of tune); WHOLE NOTE (missed the note entirely); WHOLE NOTE (Really. It would be louder if it were in tune).
:::Cut to, "In 2nd place, with a score of 97.8: Santa Clara Vanguard!"
Yeah, ok. You're watching a nearly 30 year old recording. But don't let that stop you.
I just watched a nearly 40 year old recording of the 1976 Blue Devils. Brass clinic, that. What else do you have?
Ian 98 And....?
SCV won GE Brass and tied for 1st in Performance Brass. Just saying.
The recordings from 1987 are notable for their complete lack of balance. Garfield 87 also has baritones sticking out all over the place.
The fact that Garfield had to beat them by 0.8 in the 3 drum captions to win by 0.1 still stymies me. This overblown, underwritten slob of a show is the most overrated old-school mess in DCI history -- with Phantom '08 right behind. Ugh.
Vee 10 don’t come for Spartacus lol...
Larranz Guider Too late:)
Vee 10 let me guess, you’re a Cadets fan?...............they were sick AF, in the 80’s
Vee 10 Some of the comments are HILARIOUS. I guarantee, 99% of the people making negative comments about SC or the Cadets A) didn’t see any of the top 12 shows live in 87. If ya did see it live, that’s because your corps went on when it was still light out. SC was still at the housing site when y’all were changing after your “finals” show and B) have never marched a Corps that was even in contention much less in the running for one of the best shows of all time. Cadets were insane! So was phantom, Cavs, Suncoast, Madison any top 12 Corps crushes and for you to take swipes from the couch 30+ years later reveals more about you character and integrity than anything. Life got you down? You’ll get through it. I believe in you. Maybe even more than you believe in yourself. BTW, if you didn’t march Cadets ‘87, no one cares what you have to say. If you did March Cadets 87 you’d keep spit cave shut.
Vee is entitled to their opinion, no matter how wrong it is. 😂
OMG, those contras - wondrous.