I think we can all agree that the world is ready for an AudioPilz debut album! - The little tracks you come up with for each of these vids have their own potential.
It is true that's the sad thing. I really don't grok the modular mindset. Why would you physically wire an oscillator to a filter when you can get a synth where that work is done for you?
@@XanarchistBlogspot the same reason you wire an lm13700 to a tl074 to make a filter? its fun. Also designing/building modules is less prone to error than an entire synth at once? You do want SOMEONE to build synths dont you? Tho even if thats not ur scene, theres entire synth voices in a module, and some of the most innovative designs in synths are nerds messing with euro, cos again its easier than having to design the whole synth, from the power up (esp the power for a lot of people lol)
And now this mindset is infecting the iOS world with "Drambo.". It's supposedly an amazing modular virtual groovebox. But it looks like you would have a 10 hour learning curve just to create the equivalent of a thin sounding monosynrh. No thanks...
I own the original 303 and what I miss from this demo is the noise between notes, randomly generated sequences after power-off and last but not least the positively absurd sounds you get when you reach for the corner cases. For example type in a pattern of all lower C transposed down with accent, then crank up the sequencer speed. You will have some weird self oscillation happening between the sequencer's triggering of notes vs. the filter envelope. It truely sounds like your face is melting like ice cream and gives the name "acid" meaning.
Dr. Gear! You gave another informative meme-filled electronic music history lesson that pleasantly corroded my mind with this acid bass line instrument! If only all classes and videos could be as memorable and informative like yours!
Like all clones, the TB-03 sits in the mix just fine. People dancing don't know and don't care. And I tell myself that's fine. But the guy sitting on my other shoulder whispers 'But YOU know' in my ear! 😜
@@AudioPilz "when I was using Rebirth as a kid" ... now I feel old, I remember playing with Rebirth and reminiscing "when I was using a TB303 as a kid". The original 303 manual was so bad, it was like they'd put Japanese text through a translator written on a Commodore 64, that I spent my whole summer break figuring out how to use it and writing a new manual for my friends to read.
Listen to him, he wants to drag you down into the 303rd level of Dantes analog Inferno! 😈🙂 the guy with the feathers just wants to sell you crispy digital duck giblets. 🦆
I come for the entertaining info and memes but honestly I am always impressed by how musical and joyous your original songs are that you craft when really trying to show off the gear near the end of every video. The jam with the space echo rules! You're a bad ass Florian!
Couple thoughts: 1. Just like with any 303 or clone, compression makes all the difference. Getting the dynamics a bit more smoothed out is important (also, with the TB-03, it makes the Overdrive actually useful). 2. Really wish they'd made it possible to use the filter on external audio (wound up getting a TD-3 for this reason).
Roland's digital synthesis is certainly quite good, and I think it's better than a lot of us give it credit (even myself at times), but when you've got other companies cranking out new and repro analogs left and right, and doing so for fairly cheap at that, it gets a little annoying to see Roland create yet another digital recreation with tiny knobs and arguably lackluster features. I have a Behringer TD-3 and it's the first hardware TB clone I've ever used (like you, my first synth was ReBirth). Even without effects, it sounds so good that I can spent a good hour or more with a couple of simple patterns just tweaking the knobs back and forth without getting tired of the sound. I think that's what's missing in the TB-03: it just doesn't have the HAIR of that gnarly analog sound. It's so close, but not quite there. It starts to sound a little thin and boring after a while, and this is most notable when you spend a lot of time tweaking the knobs... the very REASON to own a 303 in the first place! That said, I'm not the kind of person that collects 303's, although I have been strongly considering getting a second TD-3 for obvious reasons. But I just can't see buying a TB-03 when the TD-3 is so cheap. There are already mods out there for the TD-3 as well, which might appeal to tinkerers who want to further refine the sound. You won't be able to do that with Roland's digital recreation, either. I still enjoyed the music you created with it though. I think for at least 90% of listeners out there, any TB clone will be "close enough" especially when using quality effects with them. The details tend to disappear a bit when in a full mix anyway, but I think when the bass itself is the star, those details can make a difference.
That’s ironic because I brought a bass guitar expecting it to sound like my 303. I ended up setting fire to the guitar and threw it out of the window when I realised it wasn’t even remotely similar! Very disappointing!
By this point, I think the most important differentiating quality of a 303 clone is the user interface, and that's where e.g. the TD-3 falls flat. Just a small change like being able to step freely through a sequence with the next/back keys would be a massive improvement.
@@NEOREV_MUSIC I got one, but I think I still prefer the x0xb0x UI for entering sequences. Most clones do improve on the UI in some way, so I was surprised Behringer didn't. Maybe they thought editing on your computer was good enough?
@@DMStern The whole OG 303 sequencing system is wrong from the ground up. You either live with it or you will want to have full visual feedback of each slide and accent
Dude! my kids started school this week so i didnt even know it was friday. always happy when you show bad gear i own. this little guy hasnt left my hardware set up and compliments the Se-02 quite nicely, even more excited when you ran em through the space echo, which I own the more economical boss pedal, sometimes the fast tempo tb-03 can quickly get lost into distortion w the tape echo. it did take a long time for me to start loving this gear, so you just need more time and it will grow on you. thanks again for the laughs and great content.
Awesome video as usual! The TB-03 definitely has that 303 flavour, even if it's not perfect. Both jams were really nice in this episode, as was the Acid Techno Meditation at the end!
This was my second favorite Boutique, after the D-05. I know it's not a perfect recreation, but I like having access to that 303 workflow, and some eq and compression can get it sounding quite nice.
+++ UPDATE +++ I just bought myself a TB03 after watching this video. Thanks, Florian 🥳 Excited to add this to my setup as a third 303-flavour. --- 3:29 That realtime-mode was already present in the #OG TB-303. 4:06 #SONGMODE - oh yes! After owning it for like 25 years now, I just tried that mode two weeks ago. And it's fun! A little bit strange, but I did it like the manual suggest; mute the output while writing the song. What I like about this mode is that the song repeats. So you can program something like a fill-in-pattern every 8 bars or whatnot. I used it together with the 808's auto-fill-function, nice combo. Gives you the chance to have longer sequences than the average 1-bar-loop.
i got the behringer bug and bought 2 td3s, and i just recently taught myself how to use the song mode so i could play the american football "never meant" riff to myself in da basement for meme points. midwest 4eva
Great vid yet again, and the first time I actually heard the subject gear in the intro tune before it was pointed out. You have to fit 'zehr schmutzig' into one of your song titles.
Ah! Best start for the weekend! Bad Gear comes on and it tears Roland gear a new one. 🤣 At 0:06 i wasn't sure, i see correctly and had to look twice. The D50 User Manual is the best easteregg, i've seen in a loong time! 😃 And i'm kinda glad the "Ulification" happened. It allowed me to get the 303 sound for less than half the price of the TB-03. Not only does the TD-3 cost less, it sounds, at least to me, infinitely better than the digital Rolands.
Another great video! I'm patiently awaiting for the release of Florian's boutique gear line. Taking everything he's learned from Bad Gear and making epic gear! ;)
There is nothing bad about the TB-03. Lots of professional producers use it. Out of all the boutiques the knobs and size are good. I do prefer my TD-3 but both together are great
What I like about the TD-3 is the look and that you can also mod them to sound more like the OG Roland if you want to, plus there is now a cheap devil fish modded version of TD-3.
Caught myself singing Chaka Khan's 'Ain't Nobody' at 6:50. The song you conjured up is great, quite possibly my favourite Bad Gear original song :-). Very nice episode. I couldn't find a TB-03 where I live so settled for an egg yolk yellow TD-3, which I am very happy with 🙂
Had the original tb 303 and my manual was in Japanese...One thing about the original is you could take apart the unit and adjust the osc's up or down radically...Check out Josh Wink- Higher state of Consciousness! He adjusted his to get the high squeching sounds....great track!
I've tried most of the 303 clones except for the Avalon (which is as expensive now as the OG), and I always come back to the Roland TB-03. It has that sound, but more importantly, control features like CC assignable knobs that can be automated by your sequencer. I also find the step-sequencing to be super easy.
I know I'm in the right multiverse when my TB-03 is the audio interface for an overproduced reboot of a 90s console boomer racer soundtrack acid techno meditation.
Back in the hospital, third heart attack in one year. Had a visit from my dream woman earlier, laughed so hard my ribs hurt (turns out that CPR saves lives but breaks ribs!) and have been feeling more than a little sad all day, since she’s moving away unrequitedly soon. The only thing that can redeem this day is some Bad Gear!
YOOOOOO • The big *ss Jumbo TB-303 Bassline Replica at 1:49 though !!! #Tiny • I have to say I copped a TB-03 Boutique over 2 years ago and I love it…..Great episode nonetheless 🤍
I just read a comment that the TD3 doesn't have reverb/delay, but it is analoge & that is what people want & you can buy a TD3, 3pedals or a mixer with 99effects, for the same price as one TB03.
I have a TD3 I'm bored of the way it sounds now. But... I have to agree that onboard FX aren't a particular advantage. In fact I don't like them at all. Pedals are a much more flexible way to go - and as you say the TD3 is analogue and consequently sounds and feels far better than a TB03 even it's not a Roland product. Roland are the masters of giving the people what they want implemented the wrong ways. I feel like almost all Roland's classics were accidents!
@@hydorah You're right, to my ear the TD3 sounds squelchy & digital, especially at high resonance. Most classics are not even accidents, but failures, the 303/808/909/AlphaJuno2 were all received poorly. It's the artists who made them classics.
@@XHALE303 Yeah that's part of what I mean. Like the TB303 was supposed to play basslines and the 808 was supposed to be a drummer, they both actually had awesomeness that Roland didn't intend and the target market wasn't onboard with. New unintended customers came along and made them legends. They were indeed failures, which is what I mean about them being 'accidents'
3:45 I like the nod towards The Prodigy’s Give Me a Signal (feat. Barns Courtney). They used this machine quite heavily on the No Tourists album and Liam still uses it live. Actually noticed you using the Oman break riff a few times. I like these little nods.
Amazing videos as always!! I’m picking up my first vintage analog 8-voice polysynth tomorrow, if you can find one you should totally do a video on the Casio HT-6000! I never knew it even existed 5 minutes before I snapped one up at a bargain $100!!
My friend got a TB-03 a year back while I've been using the xoxbox clones with effects. I think the 03 sounds very much alike the xoxboxes (wich also sound different from each other). And the overdrive effect is a plus because you really need it and personally I like the selection of overdrives. The delay is way to basic on the 03 tho. The added 3 parameter delay on my xoxboxes is a billion times better and hits the sweetspot between maximum choice while not frickeling on the sound for hours. (choose delay lengh, delay volume and about 4-5 seemlessly evolving delay types). Overall I still think the TB-03 is way better all in total because of the really easy to use interface. Its much simpler and faster to use then the clones and doesn't have those software hiccups or hardware surprises from the xoxboxes. ------------------ Much love to your channel! Your skills while using all this different gear is so impressive and the review is always on point and entertaining. I've been using some of the gear you made videos on for a long time and completely approve every video you did on those. Can u do a video on the octatrack?
Never regretted selling my beaten up original 303 or MC202. The Atari sequenced smarter and the original plastic Bass Station had just as much squelch. A nerdy collector bought the OG Rolands off me, and probably still has them in a locked vault. The TB-03 and all the other boutique Rolands are a fiddly nightmare for the banana-fingered fraternity, so I own precisely none of them. The Aira TB3 is cute, and I get to play with one occasionally, and the TD3 is as cheap, tacky, and wibbly as the original, so I'm nostalgia-proof. Plus, there are dozens of vst emulations around if I need a quick fix of squelch, without having to clear any valuable desktop real estate. Although I'd still rather use a Pro 1 for acid sounds, proud heretic that I am.
I agree mostly, except there is one boutique that is not only worth buying, but much better than the original imo. That is the D-05. It is better than the original in every way and about the same price.
So about that Aira TB-3 - I remember in the review you were rather unimpressed and described the touchscreen as a terrible interface. But now you seem to be using it on the reg - did it grow on you or did you find some particular niche it fits really well?
IMO people who obsess over whether any given clone sounds like the original often don't realize that there were often bigger sonic differences between the originals anyway. So it's really just measuring up to their ideals/nostalgia rather nailing "The Definitive" TB303 sound. It's not like synths with, say, Curtis chips where examples of a given model sounded 99.9% the same.
Ha! I'm actually having to work to keep up with the sheer number of quality jokes in this video. Loved, the manual gag in the intro. Flashes me back to the dual manuals that came with a K2500.
I often shitpost on your channel but these are the important reviews that help me make decisions (to direct my investment elsewhere), so even though I’m playing around the underlying info is always appreciated! 🙏🏻
TB-03 just lacks so much punch and raw electronic analogue buzz compared to the TB-303. Behringer TD-3 gets very close to the original. I like the Aria TB-3 very much too, so underrated. I rarely use my TB-03. My Roland Bassline TB-303 got stolen by a synth tech in England in 2020 would you believe. Absolutely gutted. Had had it since 1990. Still have the box, sling case and manual though.
Analog Dude I draughted a massive letter for solicitors but in the end it would be his word against mine. I have timestamped video of it working the night before taking it in to the tech. Vid shows it Din synched to a Tr-606.
Thanks for doing this synth! I've been very tempted to get a 303 clone for a while but I figure im fine without one. Would love to see a Behringer comparison since everyone acts like they sound exactly the same
It's not their philosophy. For real. Think about it, please. Their slogan was and kinda still is "We design the future." --- That's what they really did back in the day. They simply want to add something, make it new - instead of copying their original designs. When you read interviews with the people in charge with R&D, you can feel that in between the lines. And I respect that attitude, at least they stick to it.
@@wackerburg But their clones are literally the most outdated you can possibly buy, have you seen their miniature 808 clone? it has less functionality than the original and costs twice as much as the Behringer RD8 (which is better in every way but size), I don't personally buy that they "look towards the future", when all they can do is bank on nostalgia for when they peaked in the 80s but not put in the effort to update those products to fit modern standards, I would love to buy modern roland gear if they put out good products, but right now companies such as behringer are blowing them out the water at their own game, it's kinda sad
I still like my Volca Bass, especially for the $120 CDN I spent. Great as a 303 clone but goes beyond. I'm also diggin' my Behringer TD-3...very VERY close to the original and just like the original, it's dirt cheap. The Roland version of it's own synth just doesn't do it for me. The sound is OK I guess but, like all the boutiques, the interface is just to tiny and fiddly for me.
Speaking of Ulification... he makes garbage most of the time but his gear is missing from your channel. Are you afraid of having a synth named after you?
I love this video in particular. Started with Rebirth, still using Reason. 22 years or so of Stockholm Syndrome, but at least I showed up to modern analog modular nerdery already (kinda) knowing how my cv patch cords worked.
I personally feel the TB-03 to be the best of the bunch, when it comes to 303 emulations, whether analogue or digital. I had 2 originals back in the day, one sounded very different compared to the other, but they both sounded good. - Apparently, one component none of the other clones have inside them are the "shitty little diodes" the original had, as they haven't been available for some time, or so I hear, and they make a small but significant sonic difference. So, if Roland have used their ACB correctly to emulate said missing component, they should sound the most genuine, - and to my ears they are easily good enough. I have the TD3 and MB-33 also, and I tend to use the MB33 most of the time, over the TB-03, - purely because it has a more modern sound, and i like they way it clips internally when the volume is pushed past 12 o'clock, - but they are all great boxes.
There are some parts that are unavailable and if I understand correctly (correct me if I'm wrong, love 303 trivia anyway) the filter is a low pass and bandpass combination that is hard to recreate. Also the slide is a special form of portamento that is kinda unique to the 303.
Lovely hearing this through the space echo. Smoothed some of the edges most definitely. Got me thinking about analog modeling, it'd be lovely to see a video of some early Korg analog modeling synths like the Korg Prophecy (I can already hear your intro being played on it). Thanks as always for the videos
Oh my, has it really been 6 weeks without Roland? I'm gonna go out of my way here and guess: Good sound but not the best user experience (aided by the fact that the documentation probably sucks). 😃 Edit: Oh my god, I'm dying so hard at the little TD-3 joke. Love or hate Behringer but at least they allow some people to get their hands on things they wouldn't be able to afford otherwise. :D
This is like when you're at kindergarten as a little child and your cat dies so your father gets a replacement cat by the time you come home and he spends the next week convincing you that it's the same kitty you always had. You know deep down in your heart it's not the same cat but have to accept that this is the future and the past is the past
The original 303 was popular in the electronic music scene because it was dirt cheap back then. That's why the TD3 is the realest OG out of all clones. I even got the cheapest colour, too (red). Long live Uli!
"Long live Uli!" Fuckin' A! I find it hilarious the way people bag him for doing what all the original manufacturers could've done. But instead they just decided to remain deaf and ignorant of their customers.
It's waaaaay overpriced. And it looks like Roland overpriced themselves out of the "loop" here, ahem - aside from the phun, Rolands 500$ JD-XI completely DESTROYS it (and yes, you can adjust and record the resonance changes on-the-fly internally without an external groovebox, because ...surprise to no one...the JD-XI is a ...groovebox), except it's got no less than 4 of the best Roland Drum machines in it.
What I love about the TB-03 is that all the FX and frequency controls can be controlled by Midi CC - unlike most of its rivals. Just got mine 2nd hand dirt cheap too!
I have a TB-03, a real one, and a Behringer clone. The real one knocks the other two out of the park, but I'm understandably wary of taking it out of its silica gel-lined coffin, in which it lies with the replacement set of buttons I dare not try to install, just in case I somehow manage to fry the chip before some kind of quantum-powered future tech allows me to clone it into an FPGA. The raw sound of the Behringer is a good deal better than the Boutique, but raw sound is of little consequence because Strymon Magneto. As for song mode… I just don't get it. Were it not for the Pocket Operators, the Roland TB and TR song modes would be the fastest, most sensibilist song modes going. If you're going to have a go at song modes, take on the clunky Akais and the flat-out-insane Elektrons!
I have a confession to make. I only used song mode on any machine once in my life... and that was on my original 303. I know, autism, and you're right. I was preparing a live DUHless jam of the Doctor Who theme with the Microbrute and the MS20 mini and during that period I always kept the 303 connected to its PSU to retain the patterns and song. Then there was a blackout. That's the last time I used song mode and that was probably the last time I will use song mode on anything ever again.
I think we can all agree that the world is ready for an AudioPilz debut album! - The little tracks you come up with for each of these vids have their own potential.
Thank you! Working on it!
Until now I thought it was AudioPlz
YES!
Oh yes!
yep
0:50 "…The iconic, the legendary, the one and only" -> Shows Behringer-clone.
Good one Florian ;-)
I was waiting for it, did not disappoint 😀
Thanks! This had to come;)
Q7a
Wow, I missed that the first time. 😂
I'm always missing stuff, no matter how I pause the vid, then find stuff here in comments.
"2000 dollars worth of gear
Sounds like car alarm"
I'm dying, here. That may be the best thing I see all day.
It's true and it hurts;)
It is true that's the sad thing. I really don't grok the modular mindset. Why would you physically wire an oscillator to a filter when you can get a synth where that work is done for you?
@@XanarchistBlogspot the same reason you wire an lm13700 to a tl074 to make a filter? its fun.
Also designing/building modules is less prone to error than an entire synth at once?
You do want SOMEONE to build synths dont you?
Tho even if thats not ur scene, theres entire synth voices in a module, and some of the most innovative designs in synths are nerds messing with euro, cos again its easier than having to design the whole synth, from the power up (esp the power for a lot of people lol)
And now this mindset is infecting the iOS world with "Drambo.". It's supposedly an amazing modular virtual groovebox. But it looks like you would have a 10 hour learning curve just to create the equivalent of a thin sounding monosynrh. No thanks...
Some of us would rather make music than learn engineering mumbo jumbo about control voltages. Oh well, too each his own, have fun wiring...
I own the original 303 and what I miss from this demo is the noise between notes, randomly generated sequences after power-off and last but not least the positively absurd sounds you get when you reach for the corner cases. For example type in a pattern of all lower C transposed down with accent, then crank up the sequencer speed. You will have some weird self oscillation happening between the sequencer's triggering of notes vs. the filter envelope. It truely sounds like your face is melting like ice cream and gives the name "acid" meaning.
I assume that's quite hard to fake;)
"The one and only TB-303!"
(shows the Behringer clone)
Florian - This kind of wit is why I love your videos so much!
Thanks!
@@AudioPilz What do you mean, they’re completely different... the original was cheap and plasti.. oh hmm 🤨
Dr. Gear! You gave another informative meme-filled electronic music history lesson that pleasantly corroded my mind with this acid bass line instrument! If only all classes and videos could be as memorable and informative like yours!
Thank you so much!!!
My two Dobermans do NOT like the TB-03 sounds. They have been grunting in the background. Adds a little low end. I like it.
I would call them Sub and Sine
You are the Easter-egg edit master. The "Uli-fication of the market" I like that; keep 'em coming.
Thanks!
Yeah great phrase
They fly by me like a flock of seagulls..
Like all clones, the TB-03 sits in the mix just fine. People dancing don't know and don't care. And I tell myself that's fine. But the guy sitting on my other shoulder whispers 'But YOU know' in my ear! 😜
Funny, there was no one whispering when I was using Rebirth as a kid;)
@@AudioPilz Actually Rebirth was way closer to the original than all the clones nowadays. I guess that's the reason.
@@AudioPilz "when I was using Rebirth as a kid" ... now I feel old, I remember playing with Rebirth and reminiscing "when I was using a TB303 as a kid".
The original 303 manual was so bad, it was like they'd put Japanese text through a translator written on a Commodore 64, that I spent my whole summer break figuring out how to use it and writing a new manual for my friends to read.
But you know
Listen to him, he wants to drag you down into the 303rd level of Dantes analog Inferno! 😈🙂 the guy with the feathers just wants to sell you crispy digital duck giblets. 🦆
I come for the entertaining info and memes but honestly I am always impressed by how musical and joyous your original songs are that you craft when really trying to show off the gear near the end of every video. The jam with the space echo rules! You're a bad ass Florian!
Thank you!!!
Dude that space echo bit was 100% superb.
Thank you!!!
Couple thoughts:
1. Just like with any 303 or clone, compression makes all the difference. Getting the dynamics a bit more smoothed out is important (also, with the TB-03, it makes the Overdrive actually useful).
2. Really wish they'd made it possible to use the filter on external audio (wound up getting a TD-3 for this reason).
True on both accounts!
Roland's digital synthesis is certainly quite good, and I think it's better than a lot of us give it credit (even myself at times), but when you've got other companies cranking out new and repro analogs left and right, and doing so for fairly cheap at that, it gets a little annoying to see Roland create yet another digital recreation with tiny knobs and arguably lackluster features.
I have a Behringer TD-3 and it's the first hardware TB clone I've ever used (like you, my first synth was ReBirth). Even without effects, it sounds so good that I can spent a good hour or more with a couple of simple patterns just tweaking the knobs back and forth without getting tired of the sound. I think that's what's missing in the TB-03: it just doesn't have the HAIR of that gnarly analog sound. It's so close, but not quite there. It starts to sound a little thin and boring after a while, and this is most notable when you spend a lot of time tweaking the knobs... the very REASON to own a 303 in the first place!
That said, I'm not the kind of person that collects 303's, although I have been strongly considering getting a second TD-3 for obvious reasons. But I just can't see buying a TB-03 when the TD-3 is so cheap. There are already mods out there for the TD-3 as well, which might appeal to tinkerers who want to further refine the sound. You won't be able to do that with Roland's digital recreation, either.
I still enjoyed the music you created with it though. I think for at least 90% of listeners out there, any TB clone will be "close enough" especially when using quality effects with them. The details tend to disappear a bit when in a full mix anyway, but I think when the bass itself is the star, those details can make a difference.
Thanks! I have to admit that I liked their Supernatural engine quite a bit
There's something poetic about someone with an "anarchy" symbol avatar collecting cheap plastic toys made by Chinese sweatshop laborers.
@@t.n.3819 I do wish Behringer would move their manufacturing out of China, but I doubt they're going to do that any time soon.
@@t.n.3819 🤣🤣🤣
Cheers Florian, doesn't sound anything like a bass guitar, it's a no from me. :)
Lol;)
That’s ironic because I brought a bass guitar expecting it to sound like my 303. I ended up setting fire to the guitar and threw it out of the window when I realised it wasn’t even remotely similar! Very disappointing!
I used the original in song mode back in the day
👁👄👁
By this point, I think the most important differentiating quality of a 303 clone is the user interface, and that's where e.g. the TD-3 falls flat. Just a small change like being able to step freely through a sequence with the next/back keys would be a massive improvement.
Yeah, that one is not always super convenient to use
Get a Cyclone Analogic TT-303 mk2 instead
@@NEOREV_MUSIC I got one, but I think I still prefer the x0xb0x UI for entering sequences. Most clones do improve on the UI in some way, so I was surprised Behringer didn't. Maybe they thought editing on your computer was good enough?
With Behringer SynthTribe you can edit, save and replay your acid sequence on the fly
@@DMStern The whole OG 303 sequencing system is wrong from the ground up. You either live with it or you will want to have full visual feedback of each slide and accent
Whenever you stray from Roland for a month, you always come back to it with a grand slam. Great ep!
Thank you!!!
I still wholeheartedly defend this piece of machinery.
I respect that!
@@AudioPilz it's my first synth too 😁
Keep fighting the good fight
I own one too, love it (excellent review regardless)
Great episode! Re-birth was my first musical instrument too! I spent countless hours jamming as a teenager! Oh those wonderful simple times...
Thanks! Loved ReBirth so much!
I still use my Rebirth 338 on my old white Apple ibook, personally one of the best TB-303 clones ever ;-)
Me too, still have the original rebirth 338, good emulation of the 303 plus the 808 & 909 in one box.
Dude! my kids started school this week so i didnt even know it was friday. always happy when you show bad gear i own. this little guy hasnt left my hardware set up and compliments the Se-02 quite nicely, even more excited when you ran em through the space echo, which I own the more economical boss pedal, sometimes the fast tempo tb-03 can quickly get lost into distortion w the tape echo. it did take a long time for me to start loving this gear, so you just need more time and it will grow on you. thanks again for the laughs and great content.
Thanks for watching!!!
Awesome video as usual! The TB-03 definitely has that 303 flavour, even if it's not perfect. Both jams were really nice in this episode, as was the Acid Techno Meditation at the end!
Thank you!!!
This was my second favorite Boutique, after the D-05. I know it's not a perfect recreation, but I like having access to that 303 workflow, and some eq and compression can get it sounding quite nice.
Once you get a Boutique you gotta catch them all;)
Recommendation to everyone: Listen to the final song at 6:50 while watching a muted Wipeout 2097 gameplay video :)
The weekend always starts with 'Bad Gear'. You're a hero already, thanks for the great entertainment!
Thank you so much!!!
"Internal speaker: I don't care [fart sounds that are vaguely an arpeggio of something]" - I nearly died.
Thanks! That thing is borderline useless
+++ UPDATE +++ I just bought myself a TB03 after watching this video. Thanks, Florian 🥳 Excited to add this to my setup as a third 303-flavour.
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3:29 That realtime-mode was already present in the #OG TB-303.
4:06 #SONGMODE - oh yes! After owning it for like 25 years now, I just tried that mode two weeks ago. And it's fun! A little bit strange, but I did it like the manual suggest; mute the output while writing the song. What I like about this mode is that the song repeats. So you can program something like a fill-in-pattern every 8 bars or whatnot. I used it together with the 808's auto-fill-function, nice combo. Gives you the chance to have longer sequences than the average 1-bar-loop.
Nice, thanks for the heads up!
The track at the end is sick. Nice job. Love that bass line on the minimal track as well.
Thank you!!!
Almost everytime when I see clickbait title at TH-cam I know that's Your channel. Starting watching right now.
Nice! A little clickbait goes a long way!
@@AudioPilz your demo track is an Ace. Back to 1996
i got the behringer bug and bought 2 td3s, and i just recently taught myself how to use the song mode so i could play the american football "never meant" riff to myself in da basement for meme points. midwest 4eva
❤️❤️❤️Tradition❤️❤️❤️
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Nice jams this week. It’s amazing how complete a basic drum track & a 303 can sound all on their own.
Thanks! Yeah, keeping people dancing all night long!
I stand by my TB-3. even when the cutoff knob falls off and I accidently hit the wrong note on the touchscreen. it's perfect in every way.
I like that one too!
Good day becomes great, AudioPilz has a new vid!
Thanks! Have a nice weekend!
Sweet, kicking off the weekend with some acid vibes. Always a treat!
Yeah, always a pleasure!
Great vid yet again, and the first time I actually heard the subject gear in the intro tune before it was pointed out.
You have to fit 'zehr schmutzig' into one of your song titles.
Thanks! Great idea, "zehr schmutzig" is going to happen!
@@AudioPilz
Love the finale tune - just went down a 90's PC game rabbit hole trying to remember what it reminded me of!
Thanks! Wipeout was my favorite game soundtrack!
@@AudioPilz YES!!! That was what I was trying to remember. I'd just got Cubase VST and a decent sound card so really annoyed my neighbours with it :)
You need to release an Acid house album Florian, seriously I could listen to these jams all day.
Thank you!!!
Ah! Best start for the weekend! Bad Gear comes on and it tears Roland gear a new one. 🤣
At 0:06 i wasn't sure, i see correctly and had to look twice. The D50 User Manual is the best easteregg, i've seen in a loong time! 😃
And i'm kinda glad the "Ulification" happened. It allowed me to get the 303 sound for less than half the price of the TB-03. Not only does the TD-3 cost less, it sounds, at least to me, infinitely better than the digital Rolands.
Thanks! Yeah, Uli really changed the game in so many ways
hahah i didnt see that :D brilliant
Another great video! I'm patiently awaiting for the release of Florian's boutique gear line. Taking everything he's learned from Bad Gear and making epic gear! ;)
Thanks! Maybe start with an app;)
I'm using the "song mode" of a 303-type synth: chaining four patterns together makes it easier to record them into the OT for slicing fun.
Nice technique!
I'm a big acid techno head, and even if I don't like the tb-03, I must admit your pattern and knobs tweaking was very enjoyable
Yup, super responsive machine!
There is nothing bad about the TB-03. Lots of professional producers use it. Out of all the boutiques the knobs and size are good.
I do prefer my TD-3 but both together are great
Getting both is, of course, the preferred option;)
What I like about the TD-3 is the look and that you can also mod them to sound more like the OG Roland if you want to, plus there is now a cheap devil fish modded version of TD-3.
TB-03 got me used to be able to reprogram while the sequencer is running T_T my TD-3-MO can`t do it and makes me sad!
Caught myself singing Chaka Khan's 'Ain't Nobody' at 6:50. The song you conjured up is great, quite possibly my favourite Bad Gear original song :-). Very nice episode. I couldn't find a TB-03 where I live so settled for an egg yolk yellow TD-3, which I am very happy with 🙂
Thanks for posting! I can't unhear that now;)
Had the original tb 303 and my manual was in Japanese...One thing about the original is you could take apart the unit and adjust the osc's up or down radically...Check out Josh Wink- Higher state of Consciousness! He adjusted his to get the high squeching sounds....great track!
Love Josh Wink!!!
90s rave classic
I've tried most of the 303 clones except for the Avalon (which is as expensive now as the OG), and I always come back to the Roland TB-03. It has that sound, but more importantly, control features like CC assignable knobs that can be automated by your sequencer. I also find the step-sequencing to be super easy.
Midi implementation is super nice!
@@AudioPilz Oh really? Interesting.
I know I'm in the right multiverse when my TB-03 is the audio interface for an overproduced reboot of a 90s console boomer racer soundtrack acid techno meditation.
Yes! Maybe we're just a decoy;)
the entertainment value of these videos is off the charts.
Thank you!!!
Back in the hospital, third heart attack in one year. Had a visit from my dream woman earlier, laughed so hard my ribs hurt (turns out that CPR saves lives but breaks ribs!) and have been feeling more than a little sad all day, since she’s moving away unrequitedly soon. The only thing that can redeem this day is some Bad Gear!
All the best!!!
I fear the day I'll watch all your old videos and have to wait for it every friday.
Thanks! I feel you;)
it was only a question of time to see every rolca boutique here :))
Rolca - lol;)
I'd recommend the Jp-08 especially. It's too dang small, and any of the good sounds leave you with two note polyphony. It's useless!
Love how you create a new subgenre every video you make
Thank you!!!
I miss ReBirth, my first software groovebox. Wouldn't it be great if Behringer was to steal, I mean, be inspired to remake it as hardware?
You can already do that with Behringer gear;)
They actually did. You just have to buy the parts separately.
Although the TD-303 only implements the extremely weird original sequencer modes, and can't record motion, which is Really cool with Rebirth.
@@strelokknoize I know....but...
We all miss Rebirth :((
YOOOOOO • The big *ss Jumbo TB-303 Bassline Replica at 1:49 though !!! #Tiny • I have to say I copped a TB-03 Boutique over 2 years ago and I love it…..Great episode nonetheless 🤍
That's a size I can work with! Thanks!
I just read a comment that the TD3 doesn't have reverb/delay, but it is analoge & that is what people want
& you can buy a TD3, 3pedals or a mixer with 99effects, for the same price as one TB03.
There's some truth to that
I have a TD3 I'm bored of the way it sounds now. But... I have to agree that onboard FX aren't a particular advantage. In fact I don't like them at all. Pedals are a much more flexible way to go - and as you say the TD3 is analogue and consequently sounds and feels far better than a TB03 even it's not a Roland product. Roland are the masters of giving the people what they want implemented the wrong ways. I feel like almost all Roland's classics were accidents!
You can get the TC Electronic Echobrain delay (which is analog) for $68... really nice on my TD-3.
@@hydorah You're right, to my ear the TD3 sounds squelchy & digital, especially at high resonance. Most classics are not even accidents, but failures, the 303/808/909/AlphaJuno2 were all received poorly. It's the artists who made them classics.
@@XHALE303 Yeah that's part of what I mean. Like the TB303 was supposed to play basslines and the 808 was supposed to be a drummer, they both actually had awesomeness that Roland didn't intend and the target market wasn't onboard with. New unintended customers came along and made them legends. They were indeed failures, which is what I mean about them being 'accidents'
3:45 I like the nod towards The Prodigy’s Give Me a Signal (feat. Barns Courtney). They used this machine quite heavily on the No Tourists album and Liam still uses it live. Actually noticed you using the Oman break riff a few times.
I like these little nods.
Thank you!!!
I feel that this will be a acidish video. ❤️
Not sooooooo bad;)
Those jams made me dance while making dinner 🥳
Slowly but surely my favorite channel on TH-cam 👍👍
So happy to hear that, thanks!
Suggestion: the KORG volca modular, the West Coast-style synth that’s too small for insects to use.
Great idea, thanks! I'll take a closer look!
Amazing videos as always!! I’m picking up my first vintage analog 8-voice polysynth tomorrow, if you can find one you should totally do a video on the Casio HT-6000! I never knew it even existed 5 minutes before I snapped one up at a bargain $100!!
Thanks! Currently monitoring one in the local classifieds but it's a little more costly
I love my 03, it’s a modern 303 for the new generation of producer .
Isn't the new generation using plugz?;)
@@AudioPilz nah not anymore, as you grow up you learn to enjoy the pleasures of life like hardware gear ✨
901 thumbs up, 6 thumbs down. Yup, another great video! I so love this channel.
Thank you!!!
My friend got a TB-03 a year back while I've been using the xoxbox clones with effects.
I think the 03 sounds very much alike the xoxboxes (wich also sound different from each other). And the overdrive effect is a plus because you really need it and personally I like the selection of overdrives. The delay is way to basic on the 03 tho. The added 3 parameter delay on my xoxboxes is a billion times better and hits the sweetspot between maximum choice while not frickeling on the sound for hours. (choose delay lengh, delay volume and about 4-5 seemlessly evolving delay types).
Overall I still think the TB-03 is way better all in total because of the really easy to use interface. Its much simpler and faster to use then the clones and doesn't have those software hiccups or hardware surprises from the xoxboxes.
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Much love to your channel!
Your skills while using all this different gear is so impressive and the review is always on point and entertaining. I've been using some of the gear you made videos on for a long time and completely approve every video you did on those.
Can u do a video on the octatrack?
Thank you so much! I would have to get a bulletproof vest before I do the Octatrack;)
Thank you for making this show - it is quite literally my favorite show
Thank you so much!
Never regretted selling my beaten up original 303 or MC202. The Atari sequenced smarter and the original plastic Bass Station had just as much squelch. A nerdy collector bought the OG Rolands off me, and probably still has them in a locked vault.
The TB-03 and all the other boutique Rolands are a fiddly nightmare for the banana-fingered fraternity, so I own precisely none of them.
The Aira TB3 is cute, and I get to play with one occasionally, and the TD3 is as cheap, tacky, and wibbly as the original, so I'm nostalgia-proof. Plus, there are dozens of vst emulations around if I need a quick fix of squelch, without having to clear any valuable desktop real estate. Although I'd still rather use a Pro 1 for acid sounds, proud heretic that I am.
Love to use non-303 type synths for 303 duties as well!
I agree mostly, except there is one boutique that is not only worth buying, but much better than the original imo. That is the D-05. It is better than the original in every way and about the same price.
I'd have said the SE-02 because it's a Studio Electronics design and sounds fat, but I have big fingers, and the tiny pots are wonky..
Who wants to sound like everyone else anyway.
You are funny 🤣
I have to give a shout out to your video graphics and editing. Especially the intros.
Thank you so much!!!
This is the episode that REALLY needs that epilepsy warning.
Yup, better safe than sorry;)
Dr. Bad Gear. How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Roland TB-03.
Yee-haw!!! (thanks;)
i made the same joke about 3.5mm MIDI 2 weeks ago, i dont think Florian got it then either XD
@@mycosys Cool! :) I think he got it, because of the Yee-Haw comment.. Riding the bomb down! :)
So about that Aira TB-3 - I remember in the review you were rather unimpressed and described the touchscreen as a terrible interface. But now you seem to be using it on the reg - did it grow on you or did you find some particular niche it fits really well?
I think the consensus is that it's extremely versatile in just about every aspect even though it's the weakest authenticity wise.
Fave title so far, captured the "remember gran turismo?" vibe perfectly
Thanks!
IMO people who obsess over whether any given clone sounds like the original often don't realize that there were often bigger sonic differences between the originals anyway. So it's really just measuring up to their ideals/nostalgia rather nailing "The Definitive" TB303 sound. It's not like synths with, say, Curtis chips where examples of a given model sounded 99.9% the same.
Agreed, there seem to be quite some differences between the originals
Yeah, I remember similar discussions when the MS20 mini came out. Most original MS20 vary from each other Aging analog circuitry alters the sound
Ha! I'm actually having to work to keep up with the sheer number of quality jokes in this video. Loved, the manual gag in the intro. Flashes me back to the dual manuals that came with a K2500.
Thanks! Yeah, these videos are not necessarily a linear medium;)
One day all the "Bad Gear" will be the future classics.
Some of them already are classics.
True! I'm hodling that stuff like mad;)
I often shitpost on your channel but these are the important reviews that help me make decisions (to direct my investment elsewhere), so even though I’m playing around the underlying info is always appreciated! 🙏🏻
I never expected anything differently😉
TB-03 just lacks so much punch and raw electronic analogue buzz compared to the TB-303. Behringer TD-3 gets very close to the original. I like the Aria TB-3 very much too, so underrated. I rarely use my TB-03. My Roland Bassline TB-303 got stolen by a synth tech in England in 2020 would you believe. Absolutely gutted. Had had it since 1990. Still have the box, sling case and manual though.
i hope you filed a charge at the Police.
Analog Dude I draughted a massive letter for solicitors but in the end it would be his word against mine. I have timestamped video of it working the night before taking it in to the tech. Vid shows it Din synched to a Tr-606.
@@volt7cooltangs701 somthing simular happend to me tr-606 and it was near prestine, sold to me af non functioning, but it was good.
Thanks for doing this synth! I've been very tempted to get a 303 clone for a while but I figure im fine without one. Would love to see a Behringer comparison since everyone acts like they sound exactly the same
Thanks for watching! Let's see if my legal consultant lets me review the Behringer?;)
I honestly don’t get why Roland doesn’t simply restart producing the 303. Instant worldwide buy, hands down, and a win-win solution
I'm afraid they just don't have the facilities for that
It's not their philosophy. For real. Think about it, please. Their slogan was and kinda still is "We design the future."
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That's what they really did back in the day. They simply want to add something, make it new - instead of copying their original designs. When you read interviews with the people in charge with R&D, you can feel that in between the lines. And I respect that attitude, at least they stick to it.
@@wackerburg But their clones are literally the most outdated you can possibly buy, have you seen their miniature 808 clone? it has less functionality than the original and costs twice as much as the Behringer RD8 (which is better in every way but size), I don't personally buy that they "look towards the future", when all they can do is bank on nostalgia for when they peaked in the 80s but not put in the effort to update those products to fit modern standards, I would love to buy modern roland gear if they put out good products, but right now companies such as behringer are blowing them out the water at their own game, it's kinda sad
think how sick fridays gonna be when we've done ALL the bad gear and start on Good Gear
I think chances are pretty slim;)
I still like my Volca Bass, especially for the $120 CDN I spent. Great as a 303 clone but goes beyond. I'm also diggin' my Behringer TD-3...very VERY close to the original and just like the original, it's dirt cheap. The Roland version of it's own synth just doesn't do it for me. The sound is OK I guess but, like all the boutiques, the interface is just to tiny and fiddly for me.
Yeah, I think Roland tried to hard not to make mistakes here
I’m here for the jams. And humor. And reviews. And visuals.
Speaking of Ulification... he makes garbage most of the time but his gear is missing from your channel. Are you afraid of having a synth named after you?
My legal consultant advised me NOT to release any Behringer episodes;)
@@AudioPilz He is to synth manufacturers what the Church of Scientology is to religion. :)
@@AudioPilz what??? Really??? Or are you just trying to avoid some obvious discussions? :-)
@@AudioPilz smart man. I have words for narcists but i’ll keep m to myself. Maybe.
@@SE-144 Uli has sued, defamed, and threatened journalists for giving satirical or unfavorable reviews of his products
that final acid blew me away, youre amazing
Thank you!!!
sorry to say, but Roland messed around since the 90s starting with the mc303. Everyone wanted a faithful 303, Behringer delivered 25 years later.
No one expected the future to be like this;)
@@AudioPilz just noticed the "one only, original tb303D at 50 seconds mark :D . Loving your work!
I love this video in particular. Started with Rebirth, still using Reason. 22 years or so of Stockholm Syndrome, but at least I showed up to modern analog modular nerdery already (kinda) knowing how my cv patch cords worked.
Thanks! Yeah, the Re-s were/are very educational
i want to buy one of these and jam along to the Blade soundtrack in the same way i used to play along to zeppelin albums
That's actually a great idea!
Ugg...I'm late. TH-cam didn't notify me that you were up. But..yeah I want one.
Thanks for watching! Sorry, YT isn't very reliable when it comes to notifications recently. It's every Friday 6pm CET
I personally feel the TB-03 to be the best of the bunch, when it comes to 303 emulations, whether analogue or digital.
I had 2 originals back in the day, one sounded very different compared to the other, but they both sounded good.
- Apparently, one component none of the other clones have inside them are the "shitty little diodes" the original had, as they haven't been available for some time, or so I hear, and they make a small but significant sonic difference. So, if Roland have used their ACB correctly to emulate said missing component, they should sound the most genuine, - and to my ears they are easily good enough.
I have the TD3 and MB-33 also, and I tend to use the MB33 most of the time, over the TB-03, - purely because it has a more modern sound, and i like they way it clips internally when the volume is pushed past 12 o'clock, - but they are all great boxes.
It's like Pokemon - you gotta catch them all;)
There are some parts that are unavailable and if I understand correctly (correct me if I'm wrong, love 303 trivia anyway) the filter is a low pass and bandpass combination that is hard to recreate.
Also the slide is a special form of portamento that is kinda unique to the 303.
Try the Avalon Bassline
The Phoscyon VST has some crazy sounds paired with FX
Lovely hearing this through the space echo. Smoothed some of the edges most definitely. Got me thinking about analog modeling, it'd be lovely to see a video of some early Korg analog modeling synths like the Korg Prophecy (I can already hear your intro being played on it). Thanks as always for the videos
Thanks! Space Echo is king! Still trying to find a Prophecy for a reasonable price
Oh my, has it really been 6 weeks without Roland? I'm gonna go out of my way here and guess: Good sound but not the best user experience (aided by the fact that the documentation probably sucks). 😃
Edit: Oh my god, I'm dying so hard at the little TD-3 joke. Love or hate Behringer but at least they allow some people to get their hands on things they wouldn't be able to afford otherwise. :D
Longer than the J guy was in the desert;)
yet another delightful (and very phunny I must add, are you sure you are german?) episode from Audiopilz!!! Hillarious, thank you!
Thank you! 100% Austrian born&raised;)
@@AudioPilz forgive my ignorance, sir!
@@nexuzeb79 all good, no worries!
This is like when you're at kindergarten as a little child and your cat dies so your father gets a replacement cat by the time you come home and he spends the next week convincing you that it's the same kitty you always had. You know deep down in your heart it's not the same cat but have to accept that this is the future and the past is the past
That got dark really quickly;)
The original 303 was popular in the electronic music scene because it was dirt cheap back then. That's why the TD3 is the realest OG out of all clones. I even got the cheapest colour, too (red).
Long live Uli!
Word!
Interesting
"Long live Uli!" Fuckin' A!
I find it hilarious the way people bag him for doing what all the original manufacturers could've done. But instead they just decided to remain deaf and ignorant of their customers.
Its funny cause its true
@@anthonybrett Behringer makes the cheapest, most shoddily built chinesium stuff. And the prices reflect it.
More brilliance, humor and great music. Has the Yamaha A 3000 sampler been examined ? I lost my mind to one somewhere around the turn of the century.
Thanks! Great idea, I'll take a closer look!
It's waaaaay overpriced. And it looks like Roland overpriced themselves out of the "loop" here, ahem - aside from the phun, Rolands 500$ JD-XI completely DESTROYS it (and yes, you can adjust and record the resonance changes on-the-fly internally without an external groovebox, because ...surprise to no one...the JD-XI is a ...groovebox), except it's got no less than 4 of the best Roland Drum machines in it.
I really like the analog voice on the JD-Xi but it's not super-303 IMHO
The memes are killing me. :) And the track at the end is brilliant! Thank you.
Thank you!!!
Plastikman - Sheet One is my fave acid based record.. spooky stuff
Love that record!
ICH HABE AUF DIESES VIDEO GEWARTET!!! DANKE FLORIAN
Immer gerne!
The ACB sounds are GREAT. Not a joke. Roland is great at digital.
I really liked the supernatural engine of the JD-Xi!
What I love about the TB-03 is that all the FX and frequency controls can be controlled by Midi CC - unlike most of its rivals. Just got mine 2nd hand dirt cheap too!
I have a TB-03, a real one, and a Behringer clone. The real one knocks the other two out of the park, but I'm understandably wary of taking it out of its silica gel-lined coffin, in which it lies with the replacement set of buttons I dare not try to install, just in case I somehow manage to fry the chip before some kind of quantum-powered future tech allows me to clone it into an FPGA. The raw sound of the Behringer is a good deal better than the Boutique, but raw sound is of little consequence because Strymon Magneto. As for song mode… I just don't get it. Were it not for the Pocket Operators, the Roland TB and TR song modes would be the fastest, most sensibilist song modes going. If you're going to have a go at song modes, take on the clunky Akais and the flat-out-insane Elektrons!
Nice collection!
Bad Gear Friday!!!! Awesome episode!
Thanks! Have a nice weekend!
The moral of the story is: The Roland RE-201 will make any synth sound good.
I have a confession to make. I only used song mode on any machine once in my life... and that was on my original 303. I know, autism, and you're right. I was preparing a live DUHless jam of the Doctor Who theme with the Microbrute and the MS20 mini and during that period I always kept the 303 connected to its PSU to retain the patterns and song. Then there was a blackout. That's the last time I used song mode and that was probably the last time I will use song mode on anything ever again.
Sometimes you just need a song mode;)