@@thanatoast Plus, to be fair, a shocking amount of places (including countries) are named after their attributes. "Zootopia" just requires a modicum of more thought than "Element City." Though it is admittedly silly for a society of animals to name their city that; would be the equivallent of us naming a city, "Virtopia" or "man land".
what if toys were actually people. what if cars were actually people. what if emotions were actually people. what if scottish people were actually people.
The mucinex boogerman has a more interesting design. Pixar over here putting peach fuzz on a sphere and calling it detail. I legit thought "Ember" was a villain, with her being the only fire character while strutting so menacingly past everyone. Also, I hope their full names are "Ember Burns" and "Wade Walter" because it would be the funniest thing Pixar has written.
"Fellas fellas fellas what the fuck do we turn into a kid's movie now????" "ummmmmm..... oh, fuck. like, I dunno. Fuck it, the elements?" "THAT'S GENIUS ENOUGH WRITE THAT DOWN IT'LL DO"
Well yeah. New and original ideas can be... THOUGHT PROVOKING 😨 and if the audience... THINKS (gross and bad 🤢) they may get sad 😥 and then they may have to introspect and *You're only allowed to be happy* and of course if you wanna be happy 😃 then yah gotta go to the happiest place on Earth *DISNEY LAND!!!* -and be forever obedient to our brand-
I feel genuinely bad for the people who have disassociated so hard they feel personally attacked when a Disney movie isn’t liked. What a horrible existence they must lead.
You're forgetting that a lot of criticism for the movies is also directed at the people who love the slop they're being fed. So it's not just feeling personally attacked, they are being mocked for it. And they deserve it, they're dumb as shit.
I hope the big climax drama of the movie is a Chlorine guy and a Potassium guy who really want to smooch and our heroes have to prevent the gay kiss at all costs to save the city from the resulting explosion.
There's this strange mentality where "positivity should be vocal, negativity should be silent." People who follow this line of thinking end up believing that if somebody is being critical, that it's "abusive" or mean-spirited because "if you don't like it, then you shouldn't invest any time thinking about it, which is why you shouldn't talk about it." That then extends out. Suddenly, a lack of outward positivity logically (in the minds of zealous fans) represents the silent disapproval... but in the absence of any actual vocal disapproval, silent disapproval becomes the most pushback they receive, and therefore they are *still* being attacked even if you buy into the idea that negativity should be silent and therefore don't say anything. Twisting into pretzels because it was never about managing negativity, it was about framing an out-group as essentially harmful and bad.
It's the culture. People refuse to accept the good with the bad. They have this idea that they can have more good than bad or more positivity than negativity when i find going too far one way sucks. Trying to be happy an acceptive of everything all the time is honestly soul crushing, as you quickly become a hypocrite who has no real opinions and therefore fails to truly appreciate anything. And being super negative and critical all the time gets depressing and alienating. Your comment is a happy reminder to me that I'm not alone in seeing this. It's why Disney and it's fans scare me, they feel like they'd rather burn the nay sayers than break their delusions. I honestly quiet like authentic and honest opinions form people. When someone says something insulting to me i often times giggle as I find it charming. I'd hate to live in a world without bitter or sour.
@@voidishprattles4319 A world without bitter or sour is tasteless. To flee from negativity in any form is to accept a steady hum of unfeeling, not joy. People are so infantile in their preferred fiction, you either get grimdark powerfantasy OR copium overdose. The dark and gritty settings genuinely have more hope and intrigue than the optimistic works these days. When you even mention optimism, people assume you mean heckin wholesome kitten montage rather than heroes fighting evil. Makes me sick.
"They've been coasting on goodwill for 15 years, and people should be praising movies like Anomalisa and Wolfwalkers instead of just giving Disney more Oscars" How is that a bad point for a strawman meme? Like, that's an unironically good point lmfao
On one hand. I agree that Pixar gets a unfair advantage with the Oscars, that's why I never respect the decitions even if a movie I liked won. On the other I feel like people overpraise movies for not being Disney/Pixar I really liked Wolfwalkers but really, I don't think it was the masterpiece everyone talked about, it was kinda of the same quality of Soul tbh
Wade is at least a semi decent name for a water dude since it isn't immediately obvious it's water related. Ember, on the other hand, is stupidly generic and obvious. Does everybody in that universe have a pun name based on what element they are? Each element would only have a couple dozen names they'd be able to choose from.
How is that not immediately obvious? That was the connection I instantly made in my head. I'm not smart or anything, and I immediately got it and thought "huh huh water joke." "Wade" is as painfully obvious as "Ember."
@@emissaryofcharybdis105 wade is an obvious joke whereas you could probably guess the character’s name was ember just by looking at her and being given 1-2 guesses.
Water boy: "I didn't choose to be born this way!" Fire girl: "Neither did I!" *Fire girl walks away with girl boss strut, water boy turns to ice* *Conflict resolves after 30-40 minutes of action alongside comic-relief characters* *Water boy and fire girl apologise, everyone is happy, the end* *Cut to 30 years later; passive-aggression, drug abuse and divorce lawyers made of Uranium or something*
@@JoePesciBallsack the famous Disney "forced drama" moment "we're two thirds of the way through the movie and we need both main characters to argue over something stupid so they can have a sincere moment of reconciliation and unite to achieve whatever dipshit plot contrivance we thought up"
@@NarcissistMargarine Even as a child I could see this 'moment' coming from a mile away in movies. It is probably one of the tropes i hate the most, because It is treated as something that a movie ought to have, and is often just shoved into the plot in an unnatural way.
What kinda ticks me off is how people are calling this concept "original". Are Flash games really already a forgotten art? The only thing original about the two main characters is that fire is now the girl and water is now the boy.
Just looks like "Visual gags: The movie". Something that would be a cute short before the ACTUAL Pixar movie. Not to mention the "star-crossed lovers" premise is so overdone. You can imagine every scene and joke in your head if you've seen any similar movies.
Why can't these visual gags be more subtle or funny? We get whole screen focus on some dumb blooper stuff that would be fine in the background. When WALL-E put the spork between the spoons and forks out of confusion, I at least smiled. Pixar clearly ran out of ideas before 2010.
@@zedmercury2605 couldn't they just explore that theme in a Zootopia or Insideout sequel instead of making a completely new movie in a vaguely similar settings.
@@cman8995 Zootopia had nothing to do with Pixar though. You can tell because it was much better than a Pixar movie. But I agree that they should have just done a romance in that world if that's what they wanted to do. Anything for another furry movie.
coming in 2031 what if, had feelings? Yes they ran out of ideas so much they asked the question, what if questions had feelings? The concept of concepts in a question of a question.
@@the-birbo Not really. Kung Fu panda isn't "what if panda had feelings", neither is porco rosso "what if pig had feelings". But it does work on pixar a lot which is why people are worried they're getting stale.
@@WakoDoodle but that doesnt work with most of their films as well as you think. Maybe you could say they are "what if the main character were (blank)" but that also fits every story. Toy Story isn't really about "what if toys had feelings". It's about a new guy in town making the head honcho jealous enough to try to kill him and then instantly regret it and they just happen to be toys. Cars isn't really about "what if cars had feelings". It's about a famous racer learning humility and respect after almost losing everything (or something like that) and they just happen to be cars. You could say Kung Fu Panda is "what if pandas had feelings" if you just ignore the story like everyone does with their extremely shallow critiques of pixar movies lol
I get that you don't want to come up with an entire history for a fictional world but no city on earth is called "Human Town" cough cough Zootopia cough cough Element City
Zootopia at least makes sense. Animals inhabit zoos, it’s a utopia for all animals; it’s definitely more creative than Element City. It sounds like a placeholder for the actual name.
@@TheMedicatedArtist literally was about to comment this, element city sounds so boring and unoriginal like at least try to make it sound cool like elementum or periodi city or something actually clever
@@dodojesus4529 Reach is a colony world - New York, New York City etc Only way it'd be comparable would be if Element City was not only a colonial city, but was also named as such after the elementals broke free of slavery and decided to have the city itself be a monument to that achievment
Honestly if they went with the city I feel like the least we could've gotten is making this element city feel more like it's built for and by element people. I mean, why are they all just travelling on some sort of boat train? Why not have the cloud people be propelled to different areas with giant fans, or for water people to travel via waterslides or hoses or something? And maybe those aren't perfect but I made them up on the spot. Literally anything that ties in more strongly with their designs and the world. I'm sure you could get a lot of mileage of whatever themes you choose to explore with that as well. It's just that of what we've been shown so far it... feels really uncreative
I saw the teaser to Elemental and it already feels like I've seen the whole film and then forgot it as soon as I saw it. The whole _these two are different but will they work out_ love story plots aren't terrible, but will this film _wow_ audiences or give them something they've never seen before in a hundred other things? Even the style looks boring, just because we've been exposed to it too many times in _Inside Out_ and _Soul._ The world doesn't have a firm identity: it just feels like _modern Disney Pixar urban fantasy city 03._ It feels weird that this is the same company that made Ratatouille, which I personally think is the best Pixar film of them all.
I like Incredibles the most, cause its probably the best of them that doesnt reuse the " what if X thing was people" idea that almost every pixar movie integrates to some degree.
I think the first teaser trailer for Monsters Inc was better in terms of lore and world building than the first teaser trailer for Elemental. It could turn around and the actual film could be amazing, but Element City is still the laziest name they could have could up with.
As a lifelong videogame enjoyer, I've seen both sides of the "QUIT HAVING FUN!"-discourse more times than I can count. Either someone thinks you're objectively a terrible human being for enjoying something they didn't, or they think you're actively trying to ruin their life by not enjoying something they liked. The internet did something weird to the concept of opinions. It's like we need everything to be streamlined now. Either something is the best thing ever or the worst thing ever; you don't get to have a subjective opinion of it. Oh, and the whole "Shut up and let people enjoy things!"-things is one of the worst and most toxic manifestations of manufactured positivity and fake optimism there is. If you cannot enjoy something unless the world is expunged of anyone's critical opinion of it, you are a literal baby, and you need to grow up and build the confidence to stand by your own opinions and preferences without constantly needing the rest of the world to reaffirm your beliefs in order to feel valid. I enjoy criticizing stuff I don't like. In fact, it's even part of my job. Why shouldn't I be allowed to enjoy that? Shut up and let me enjoy not enjoying the stuff you like.
I think to be fair, this isn't an internet thing: it's a human thing. Just the internet has made it worse. Not sure about the whole " shut up and let people enjoy things" thing either, but I don't think I've ever seen it as meaning for zero criticism or negative takes on something. Mostly I've seen it used to address people who excessively go out of their way to be shitty towards people because they are enjoying something that a person didn't like, or is objectively not great.
@@reddawnstudios2016 Honestly, the only times I've ever seen anyone use "Let people enjoy things!" as an argument is when something they enjoy is criticized. There have been pushed to "end negativity" and that sort of thing. To try and make it against ToS to make critical content on TH-cam or whatever. It's obnoxious and asinine. People will actively seek out negative buzz about things they like and then be upset when they find it. And then claim that other people not enjoying the thing they like is somehow ruining their experience, because their emotions have to be universally applicable to be valid or something. I get it. I like a lot of trash media too. I just don't depend on the validation of others in order for my enjoyment to feel justified.
Yeah, I’ve been on the negative side of that argument somewhat with video games and it’s the worst but if it weren’t for the toxic positivity I would never have gotten that bad. I can look back and cringe at that part of my past, but it doesn’t really excuse how shitty gaming fandoms are when it comes to this. For whatever reason it seems like gamers are some of the most likely to judge you just based on what you like/dislike and I know it happens with everything but it’s like with gaming it leads to insults and shit.
@@Sc4recrow44 I'm paraphrasing, but at some point I'm sure I either heard or read that the most lucrative 'gamer' segment are middle aged women playing Candy Crush and its one billion derivatives.
A story with Periodic Elements could be fun. Seperating the world into different levels for each energy level of elements, having the noble gases be the kings of each level, the nonmetals are in kingdoms because of covalent bonds and metals are solitary that capture nonmetals into their own form. Not sure how the story could go down, but having something about reactions or fusing would fit.
I've heard that movie got fucked by studio demands and shit, and that this one is about the author's experience with his love life as an immigrant or whatever, which does sound more interesting but of course we get none if that in the teaser, like I get not wanting to spoil the whole thing obviously, but refusing to at least properly introduce the premise and just fill the teaser with predictable visual gags in an urban setting like they didn't do this shit already in Soul, Onward, and Zootopia if we wanna count Disney too doesn't help making the film not look generic.
Good dinosaur had a lot of trouble production, and changed 2 or 3 times of director. Its not entireley his fault, he had to fix something already "broken" if u see what i mean.
People have to see it in the perspective of having grown up with Pixar in the 2000s. I imagine most of the people dunking on this film already are people around my age (23) who grew up with Pixar when it was in its prime (2001-2010). Each film was completely fresh and original apart from the Toy Story sequels. Each one is iconic and stands alone in its own way. So it's understandable why people are getting fed up with very similar movies from Pixar each year.
That's the thing, right? I get the impression that people don't even really hate this trailer, they're just kind-of disinterested. But because Pixar fans are so vocal and aggressive about people liking the thing, it's pushing people into being more frustrated and doubling down. Like this isn't going to be an Emoji movie, it's not going to be terrible. It just feels really bland and forgettable, and in a way that's almost worse than being bad to some people because at least something bad gets talked about. I feel like this film is going to come out, it'll have maybe a few days of discourse, then it'll be gone and nobody will really care. And I feel like the hard Pixar stans are going to fucking HATE that!
To be fair they have been reusing this "what if X thing was a world with people" in almost every movies setting since the start. Toy Story is what if toys were people, Bugs Life is what if bugs were people, Cars is what if cars were people, Finding Nemo is what if fish were people, Monsters Inc is what if monsters were people, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
@@NudeSophist Those aren't unique worlds, though, which is what helped them be more imaginative. Toy Story is just about toys that come alive, it's not about toys that go to their own unique toy world. They're out dealing with real situations that make sense for what they are. Same for Bugs Life, there's the 'big city' but it's not like that's just a special magic bug world or something, it's just made out of soup cans and other garbage, which is pretty neat. I feel like even Cars kind-of gets a pass here? It's not a great movie, but at least there's stuff specific to being a car that you can work with to make an interesting setting. I look at Elemental and it just feels like Soul, right? Because "What if afterlife" doesn't really give you much to go off of. I mean, I like Soul, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't want EVERYTHING to be like Soul, right? This just kind-of feels like they're out of ideas for things to anthropomorphize because we did animals, insects, vehicles, toys, robots, fish, dinosaurs, ghosts, emotions... dogs....... Monsters.....? I guess they could do urban legends or mythology? "What if Bigfoot but people"? I don't know what the right move is, but this just feels really bland because there's just nothing to work with in a "What if elements but people" film. You can't really make a house out of just water and have it look interesting and believable, right? It's not a great start for worldbuilding, I think.
I feel so bad for everyone who has incredible stories and work their lives to get to work for a company with long notoriety and so much money but they’re forced to work on the blandest, most common stories of this era just to make rent and eat … painful
lol, "Forced to work". What a dumb argument. It's fine if you're not looking forward to Elemental. But being offended for people working on a movie that you lack interest in, is both hilarious and sad.
@@crfstewarje … yeah if you want to get by and you work in the animation field which is hard to get a job in, you end up working in projects you don’t really get a choice in, unless you want to go back to a minimum wage job, which isn’t livable. that’s what I mean by “forced”
@@crfstewarje this also isn’t me making an attempt at making an argument. I was just stating a different perspective I haven’t seen a lot of people state in the comments
Im gonna play devil's advocate for the furbait cop movie and say that calling the city where all types of animals live together in harmony zootopia (zoo + utopia) is a cute wordplay, elemental city is just a nothing name cant defend that
the most interesting thing about the movie is that it might be Pixar's first romantic comedy. previews Pixar films like walle had romantic elements, but they were never the main plot.
@UCwF0Db3WEj9Pe0KxGFed-hw you could argue that, and it does have way more romance than even the average Disney princess movie. what i mean is that Elemental seems to be way more of a standard love story.
The subtext of "let people enjoy things" is essentially "everything is subjective, therefor no one can observe things in a critical way" Its an overarching ideal rather than a situational response.
Tbh everything is subjective isn’t entirely wrong because just how much you enjoy something is subjective, but there are definitely standards, as much as they are up for debate. You can enjoy a game with bad framerate, your enjoyment and having a good time is subjective and you can wax on about philosophy there, but is anyone going to argue 20FPS is good for a video game? It’s just really stupid messy semantics. Adum mentions a lot how you can enjoy bad things, and some people take that too personally. I agree it’s a blunt way for him to say it, but Adum is right about it honestly. And being blunt doesn’t really make it rude, and if he went on about it, then any resulting argument would go pretty much nowhere. Saying “everything is subjective” really is just people trying to avoid/shut down criticism when they can’t have a more mature conversation or realise the nuance there. Wether they’re really defensive, or just not that introspective, it’s dumb. It isn’t even very nuanced anyway. Edit: sorry if my reply is kinda harsh lol idrc random youtube comments.
I once saw a comment of one of these people defending Elemental, that guy/gal/whatever had the audacity to write "it's because of people like them that creativity is dying". There's so much to unpack from such idiotic sentence.
Can you imagine the potential edutainment value if they'd chosen the periodic table over the classical elements? Give kids their laugh while teaching them something, and give their parents a laugh with all the potential science kids won't get up front... But instead they went the lazy shovelware route because they know it'll still make money. How tragic.
How tf does that end up being approved for the final script? Element city feels like a place-holder name, so they can write the script , flesh out the story and then come up with some creative name.
Best case scenario, this film goes the complete opposite direction we expect it to. Instead of your typical, run of the mill "forbidden love" and "opposites attract" route, they go completely the other way by presenting a harmful and toxic relationship. Think about it, it is a fact that water and fire do not mix. Not figuratively, literally these two characters have the capacity to seriously harm each other. The very first interaction we see is the fire girl being hurt from the water dude's touch. Pixar has tackled mature themes before. I think it would be very unique and interesting to show the reality of a harmful relationship and when to recognize that a relationship is putting you out and walk away from it.
I can already imagine elements having societal problems with each other as a metaphor for racial discourse like it hasn't been done in last 500 animated movies.
$100 says the fire people are discriminated against because they're too destructive and Ember will be the one who changes that (she will be the only one to try in the last 10000 years)
@@Keygentlemen that or it will be like an interracial relationship slander, fire and water cant be together, it just doesn’t work. Or something like that
I'm 99% sure that's where they are going with it but I really hope to be wrong because it's just... stupid. Water and fire literally cannot mix, not just because of society, but because of PHYSICS ._.
and then they'll make the marginalized people actually have genetic or natural differences that give the majority a reason to be afraid of them which adds just a taste of eugenics into the film
@@alexiss5807 I've recently read that the director is Korean, and said on the interview that elemental reflects how he felt living in America as a Korean so... 99% sure it's going to be another metaphor animated movie about a race lol.
I swear this movie was made off that Tumblr comic I've seen a million times about the water boy loving the fire girl, but they're uncompatible due to their nature, but they try to make it work or something. Works alright in a comic, but in a movie it sounds downright painful.
My big takeaway is just how good Kevin Temmer Tunes is. I only saw this trailer once when I went to see Puss in Boots so when I saw your thumbnail, I thought you included his video as an extra little goof. Highly recommend seeing Kevin's stuff, excellent animator! Oh, and the movie's okay I guess. I'm not excited for it. (Elemental is okay, I mean. The new Puss in Boots is great)
3:41 this is literally every fanbase, I said I hated a certain popular DC character on some forums and you would have thought I murdered these peoples kids in front of them and shot their dog. And I'm talking constant messages for nearly a week. Fanbases are insane when you criticize anything they like and then they'll sit there and wonder why quality goes down. People get DEATH THREATS for not liking certain video games. Its so out of hand.
I love the four elements as a... well, element of a story. that's why at first it looked interesting to me. But that whole setting for only a love story? between fire and water? it's like I've already watched this movie a thousand times
I have a few theories as to why some people interpret contrary opinions as personal attacks: 1: They believe that if something they really like doesn't become super popular it won't make a lot of money and therefore they'll stop making more of that thing they like. Which is only sort of true, but plenty of things that have been largely panned by critics and casual viewers alike have had sequels and entire franchises. 2: They spend a lot of time on the internet, specifically social media. The vast majority of the user content of these sites consist of people's opinions on stuff, and the most visible ones are always the most extreme and negative/reactionary. So it is likely they've come across lots of hyperbolic negative opinions on That Thing They Like, maybe even a few making fun of fans like them, calling them childish, gullible, nostalgia-blind, etc. and they interpret that as a judgemental attack on their tastes and personal character.
I feel the latter is more accurate. It's not a calculated effort get more content. When it becomes a special interest or hyperfixation, the thing that is criticized starts feeling like a part of someone's identity (it's not really an identity but neurodivergence can often make it feel that way). I do think it is low to make judgements about the people who enjoy something. 'X fans must be childish and emotionally stunted if they think something like this is good.' Why would anyone feel the need to pick apart the people who enjoy something? Some people do take a leap in logic though and assume that picking apart the thing they like means they're shaming people for liking it. I've found 'I' statements on opinions help diffuse these kinds of situations a lot but there is definitely this unfair standard that hating on media is rude and hurtful when it really is just an inconsequential opinion.
@@privernd I’m neurodivergent myself and I enjoyed listening to people’s opinions on stuff online when I was a kid. And the thing you mentioned is literally what happened to me as a kid. (Combine that with a low self esteem and you got some issues) I grew out of it but I still feel the need to hide the stuff I enjoy sometimes out of fear that the person I’m talking to would think less of me. This basically comes from my neroudivergence and general anxiety. I’m much better about it now but it was difficult to get rid of
@@cloudshines812 I think that’s mostly hyperbolic exaggeration but I am intrigued in the Mario movie but no where near as excited for across the spiderverse
The "quit having fun" meme is basically just the guy who gets dunked on but repeats "I'm not bothered, you're the one who's bothered" with tears in his eyes. Almost every time I see it it's in response to very normal criticism of a generally commercially popular product that people often don't hold to any kind of basic standard out of either nostalgia or generally low quality standards (the Pokemon community has this battle a lot). And it just feels like such a smug way to try and dismiss criticism as "trying to ruin people's enjoyment of a thing". I'm sorry but, if a handful of people voicing their criticism of something really makes you mad enough to make a passive aggressive meme about it, did you ever really like the product at all? Or did you like being in something you think is "universally liked" because you've got nothing else going on? Like, people criticize the hell out of the Danganronpa series, a lot, and I still love all of the games and even the canonical sequel anime that people hate. It's crazy how you can just...y'know...like something regardless of other people not liking it.
Dude I totally agree, but you know what? I absolutely love love love Skylanders and talking about that series is a shit show. The fandom itself sucks with a bunch of corrupt cliques, a shit ton of kids and everyone else hates the series. I don’t really know what my point is except that I know what being in a similar position is like and being called “cringe” and shit and tbfh life is too short to worry about that shit just because you like an unpopular game or something. It definitely sucks liking something so unpopular and being unable to share it with more than a handful of people but it would suck more getting in arguments over it. People who waste their time being so defensive over this shit… yeah well it just really is a waste of time imo and they need just suck up criticism, its a pixar movie so its going to be fine anyway. You can see the same thing in pokemon fans going after criticism, its very stupid and sad these people use so much time on this which genuinely is annoying and in extreme cases can be like harassment toward other people. I guess when a fandom/people are genuinely toxic and making bad faith arguments it gets more complicated, but those people won’t listen to genuine arguments anyway which I have seen with Skylanders because people are just fixated on one screenshot from 2011 and clearly know nothing about the series so they make the most idiotic arguments lmao. So I don’t really bother with the debate because those people won’t listen anyway. You have to know when to cut your losses
Reminds me of one video talking about modern Star Wars fans and how they made the brand part of their core personalities and any criticism of a movie is like a personal attack to their very selves. They can't just like or dislike a movie anymore.
@@SammEater yes, but even more fundamentally it is quite concerning that there is so little motivation by so many to conduct independent research i.e buy the game, play it, read the article instead of skimming the gist of it from the reddit post headline
I need a layman’s breakdown of the psychology motivating Disney adults and why they identify so strongly with a corporation that they feel the need to go way out of their way to defend its products like this. I’ve never seen someone do this with Pepsi or McDonald’s so I’m wondering what makes someone stan a media conglomerate like this.
In the era of VHS/DVD some families just slapped on Disney movies as the easy babysitter they could trust to be safe and inoffensive. Thus those people grew up with a deep love for Disney. I'm just worried about the zoomer generation and gen alpha, when they grow up are they going to identify strongly with cringe TH-camrs and Chinese content farm videos?
@@SamuelCatsy I think this gets pretty close to explaining it. See also the Nintendo stans who are now hyped for the Mario movie because the trailers blew away everyone's rock-bottom expectations.
Some people (most) never grow up to develop their tastes, just idly sitting back and reexperiencing the same shit that once was unique and new to them. Low standard people with no barometer for quality. There's a reason they made so many transformers movies, it's cause dipshits kept going to watch them. I think people Stan this shit cause it's all they know, and they get offended when being informed that they just aren't that nuanced in their opinion to understand that their taste is trash.
@@SamuelCatsy my 5 yearr old cousin watches these russian minecraft videos literally all day to the point where he speaks like the titles illd be making a sandwich and he'd be like "my cousin? making a sandwich? in real life?" which is to say the fact that clickbait youtube videos forms almost his entire lexicon means it might have already happened lmao
I mean a romance plot doesn't feel "recycled" in terms of Pixar films, because I can't think of a Pixar film that was a romance tbh. I don't count Up or Toy Story, because the romance in those wasn't really the central plot itself. So congrats to Pixar for branching out and trying something new, and by that I mean the oldest story in the book.
The elements are: Earth, Clouds, Fire, Water, Plants Other Than Someone's Hair, and Someone With Green Christals Growing Out Of Her Head. Or, maybe Earth and Plants are a single element called Nature.
It's probably for the best they didn't go with, like, elements elements, because one of the morals would be... some things just shouldn't mix, probably. That could possibly send the wrong message with anthropomorphic creatures lol EDIT: WELL lmao we'll see!
You can already tell it's going to be a plot that doesn't actually use the concept of the world and will just be the typical "romeo and juliet" crap we've seen a thousand times. Maybe we'll see some visual gags and set pieces, but the actual story won't change.
I hate Disney as much as the next guy but I've not seen anyone be defensive about people not liking this trailer. Most people have just disliked the teaser from what I've seen.
Feeling personally attacked by others opinions is a sign of insecurity. Meaning, deep down they know full well that the product is not that good, so they desperately try to deflect any kind of criticism by labeling it as "hate speech", but in reality they are in full denial. A pointless endeavour really, because at the end of the day, they are only delaying the inevitable next 8 stages of grief, considering the current state of Pixar's animations. That's the advantage of being skeptical. You are always ready for uncertainties and changes.
@Z S That's not how projection works, but if you don't know that, you're definitely part of the target audience for the crap they have been putting out for the last couple of years.
If the movie is imperfect but you still like it, fucking own that. Don’t be like “you don’t understand” just be like “yeah I can see why you wouldn’t like it, I still like it though.”
I just feel like it looks super standard. 🤷♂️ I'm sure that future trailers and stuff will show us what spice this story has, but right now, it feels very generic.
"Pixar is copying Avatar" mfs when I tell them Last Airbender didn't invent the elements. (They don't know air, water, earth, and fire occur in nature).
At least Pixar made Plant and Earth different elements (because the one made of crystals is very clearly distinct from the plants) otherwise this would be even more lame
This movie releases 2 weeks after Across the Spiderverse, 1 week after Transformers 6, and the same week as The Flash Is Disney trying to tank their theatrical animation branches
With Disney Animation studio pretty much doing the 3D animations better than modern Pixar, there might be some truth to that. Maybe the corporate suits need a reason to axe one of their studios, because in their heads: "why keep two studios making basically the exact same thing?"
What I enjoy about the movie's concept is that the director, Peter Sohn, is making the movie based on his experiences being raised as a Korean immigrant in New York and the cultural clashes that came when dating someone who wasn't Korean. So yeah, it is a love story with race and diversity as a theme. Sorry for the people who think just because Zootopia had similar topics then it can't be done again because that's not creative enough... Even though this is a personal story that took 8 years in development and is being done by a man who was thankfully given another chance to make a movie at the studio after The Good Dionsaur turned out to be a box office and critical flop thanks to the coorporate interferance. Thankfully, this time it seems like he and his team were given enough time to make Elemental (and I personally enjoy that the film is taking a more stylized look in its element effects and character designs). Sorry again for the people who don't like the "Cal-Arts Style". I, and many others, can allow people to not be excited over this, but I also want those people to let the ones who are looking foward to the film (who aren't just doing it for it being Pixar) enjoy it as well without being grouped with the Disney simps just because this movie is under the corporation's umbrella. I also agree with Adam when he mentions that its too early to say anything about the film itself since it's just a teaser (also this isn't even a scene that'll appear in the film), and the story is a bit of a mystery other than "opposites react", but I bet we can all give it a chance and draw positive AND negative opinions on it as a film and not "just another Pixar movie".
I really don’t want to be that guy but Disney Pixar consistently consistently consistently makes movies about these kinds of forbidden loves and like each one has been straight.
@@umjammerlammy9993 i would agree with this statement if this case wasn't different. I do agree that Disney keeps pretending to be pro LGBTQIA and yet doesn't promote Strange World for being part of the community, and insisted that their "First Gay Characters" were super progressive while banning the mentions of their orientations on places like Russia and China to gain that dough. But, at least for me, the film's "Forbidden Love" story can work in the type of themes Peter Sohn wants to portray. I.e, those he experienced. And even though they are a straight couple, I don't think it will deminish other stories outside of Disney from creating more queer couples. I was gonna argue that since it's based on Sohn's own relationship with his wife that it would be logical for him to envision a straight couple... Although he does represent himself as a hot fire lady (as she's the odd one out in that society) so idk 👀
I mean, people *should* stop defaulting the animation Oscars to Disney/Pixar. The Academy is so dismissive of animation as a medium of film that they don't even bother watching the nominees, they just say "Whatever Pixar movie came out this year, I dunno."
I'm calling it now- there will be a scene where some character attends 'element-ary school'. Possibly a college or institute of higher learning. Certainly a major miss of a joke.
First impressions: - I like that they didn't give a plot synopsis. - Pixar shot themselves in the foot by choosing Avatar elements over the periodic table. All the background characters look the same. - Is "Element City" the best you could do? What about "Avogadro" or "Ario" or some other cool sounding chemistry pun? Similarly, you could've made "Track 2" into "Track 2p6" - I'm getting strong "not like the other girls" vibes from the main character. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
Elemental literally feels like a fake Pixar movie. It looks like its premise was spat out by an AI after feeding it the plot of all previous Pixar films.
7:35 Even though it may be going for the more general states of matter angle of elements, there seems to be a big focus in the art assets on the periodic elements as well. Even right after Adum says this it cuts to a subway map where instead of a map its the periodic table. Everything I've seen about this movie leading up to the trailer were the designs for the two main characters. I hope the setting is more exciting than "generic city".
Board member A: What if elements were like... people? Board member B: Sounds good to me, but what's the plot? Board member A: Like a love story? Or something? Board member B: Great! Let's do it!
This trailer feels so empty. From the moment Ember steps on the train I get what they’re going for. Then there’s like a full minute of basic, 2-second gags that raise more questions than answers about the actual physics of the world. And then about 5 seconds to tease the actual story. Also, having your movie about elements, called “Elementals,” take place in “Element City,” teases more about the creativity going into this story than I think they wanted to reveal this early.
Want to know something fun that many people seem to not know? Most combustion reactions actually create water as a byproduct. If you have a character that is made out of fire, they are literally just making water constantly.
I’d say it’s because she’s a bit stylised in terms of the fire, whereas the other elements all have a kind of hyper-realism texture to them. It looks jarring because she’s the only one with that effect.
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I died when one of the comments said, “This concept is literally from cool math games.” 😂
They're right tho
God I miss coolmathgames. Gave you exactly what it was advertising, it was math games and they were cool
Grew some grey hair just now. Where hath the time gone?
yeah this is fire boy and water girl but swaped
that game was the shit man
very nostalgic
@@umjammerlammy9993 you be lyin’. We all know 99.9% was not math related
The main city being called “Element City” is the equivalent to if Zootopia was called “Animal Land”
I mean that's basically what Zootopia means. The zoo- prefix means "Animal" and the -topia sufix means "Place".
@@thanatoast Well yeah, but at least it’s not *as* blatant and is at least a little punny.
@@thanatoast Plus, to be fair, a shocking amount of places (including countries) are named after their attributes. "Zootopia" just requires a modicum of more thought than "Element City." Though it is admittedly silly for a society of animals to name their city that; would be the equivallent of us naming a city, "Virtopia" or "man land".
@@HolyApplebutter tbf I think the vast majority of places are named after their attributes
@@hd_harold7587 Eh... that's kind of what I said, but yup!
what if toys were actually people. what if cars were actually people. what if emotions were actually people. what if scottish people were actually people.
What if rats were people? What if fat people and robots were people? What if teenagers were people?
Nah brave was a great movie tho
@@ivythealiencat If ya had ta chance ta change yer faayte, woodju?
@@Slop_Dogg yaaes
What is scottish ppl had feelings, what if feeling had feelings
This animation looks like some kind of allergy medicine commercial.
Lmao
This is exactly what I thought like she's walking past everything that gives you a runny nose. They even had the water sneezing
Imo the animation looks pretty fucking good
Imagine the trailer were Shaq shows up and said Icy Hot... or one of those chewing gum commercial.
YES! it's such a corporate-feeling style.
it looks like a toothpaste and cough syrup commercial
Oh my god, it does! I was wondering why the textures and style looked so off.
This trailer looks like that fruit flavored bottled water commercial where the water bottle gets cucked by a bunch of fruits
The mucinex boogerman has a more interesting design. Pixar over here putting peach fuzz on a sphere and calling it detail. I legit thought "Ember" was a villain, with her being the only fire character while strutting so menacingly past everyone. Also, I hope their full names are "Ember Burns" and "Wade Walter" because it would be the funniest thing Pixar has written.
I was thinking heartburn / allergies
@@Duskool Don't remind me...
Damn these animation companies really working hard these days to make the exact same movie 800 times
"Fellas fellas fellas what the fuck do we turn into a kid's movie now????"
"ummmmmm..... oh, fuck. like, I dunno. Fuck it, the elements?"
"THAT'S GENIUS ENOUGH WRITE THAT DOWN IT'LL DO"
Well yeah. New and original ideas can be... THOUGHT PROVOKING 😨 and if the audience... THINKS (gross and bad 🤢) they may get sad 😥 and then they may have to introspect and *You're only allowed to be happy* and of course if you wanna be happy 😃 then yah gotta go to the happiest place on Earth *DISNEY LAND!!!*
-and be forever obedient to our brand-
They broke new grounnnnnd!
@@Keygentlemen That was a joke in American Dad. "Clothes. It's about the secret life of clothes".
well not all animation companies. mostly just disney
I feel genuinely bad for the people who have disassociated so hard they feel personally attacked when a Disney movie isn’t liked. What a horrible existence they must lead.
They're literally that girl in the Lion King 2019 trailer reaction video.
*_"I LOVE DISNEY SO MUCH! 🥺"_*
@@michaelstrong5383 dude pride rock
@LemonFish64 If they're being bullied, then they are being personally attacked.
You're forgetting that a lot of criticism for the movies is also directed at the people who love the slop they're being fed. So it's not just feeling personally attacked, they are being mocked for it. And they deserve it, they're dumb as shit.
Nintendo and Pokémon fans especially are like that but 1000x more
I hope the big climax drama of the movie is a Chlorine guy and a Potassium guy who really want to smooch and our heroes have to prevent the gay kiss at all costs to save the city from the resulting explosion.
Bold of yoou to assume this would be a plot poi t and not a 10 second background gag
At least it could be played in China!
@@SuperdreadnoughtLiebehm
isn't this what disney does already
I hate anybody who unironucally comments "Based" but at the same time I hate myself so,
Based.
There's this strange mentality where "positivity should be vocal, negativity should be silent." People who follow this line of thinking end up believing that if somebody is being critical, that it's "abusive" or mean-spirited because "if you don't like it, then you shouldn't invest any time thinking about it, which is why you shouldn't talk about it."
That then extends out. Suddenly, a lack of outward positivity logically (in the minds of zealous fans) represents the silent disapproval... but in the absence of any actual vocal disapproval, silent disapproval becomes the most pushback they receive, and therefore they are *still* being attacked even if you buy into the idea that negativity should be silent and therefore don't say anything.
Twisting into pretzels because it was never about managing negativity, it was about framing an out-group as essentially harmful and bad.
That's a really good way of wording it. Gonna save your comment.
Unironic toxic positivity slippery slope is real.
It's the culture. People refuse to accept the good with the bad. They have this idea that they can have more good than bad or more positivity than negativity when i find going too far one way sucks.
Trying to be happy an acceptive of everything all the time is honestly soul crushing, as you quickly become a hypocrite who has no real opinions and therefore fails to truly appreciate anything.
And being super negative and critical all the time gets depressing and alienating.
Your comment is a happy reminder to me that I'm not alone in seeing this. It's why Disney and it's fans scare me, they feel like they'd rather burn the nay sayers than break their delusions.
I honestly quiet like authentic and honest opinions form people. When someone says something insulting to me i often times giggle as I find it charming. I'd hate to live in a world without bitter or sour.
Well spoken.
@@voidishprattles4319 A world without bitter or sour is tasteless. To flee from negativity in any form is to accept a steady hum of unfeeling, not joy. People are so infantile in their preferred fiction, you either get grimdark powerfantasy OR copium overdose. The dark and gritty settings genuinely have more hope and intrigue than the optimistic works these days. When you even mention optimism, people assume you mean heckin wholesome kitten montage rather than heroes fighting evil. Makes me sick.
"They've been coasting on goodwill for 15 years, and people should be praising movies like Anomalisa and Wolfwalkers instead of just giving Disney more Oscars"
How is that a bad point for a strawman meme? Like, that's an unironically good point lmfao
When you strawman so hard you accidentally steelman
tfw the strawman comic trying to make critics look bad just makes the fans look like braindead consumers.
On one hand.
I agree that Pixar gets a unfair advantage with the Oscars, that's why I never respect the decitions even if a movie I liked won.
On the other
I feel like people overpraise movies for not being Disney/Pixar
I really liked Wolfwalkers but really, I don't think it was the masterpiece everyone talked about, it was kinda of the same quality of Soul tbh
@@capucharoja6887 I'd rather people over praise indie projects over anything made by Disney nowadays
@@wrthgdrver710 Does it have to be one or the other tho?
Wade is at least a semi decent name for a water dude since it isn't immediately obvious it's water related. Ember, on the other hand, is stupidly generic and obvious. Does everybody in that universe have a pun name based on what element they are? Each element would only have a couple dozen names they'd be able to choose from.
Hell, they could have just gone with Amber. Still obvious and sort of a pun, but at least it's a real name that exists.
Char-olette. There. It took me two seconds to think of a new name.
Luce, pronounced 'lucy' as a purposeful mispronunciation of the latin word for light
How is that not immediately obvious? That was the connection I instantly made in my head. I'm not smart or anything, and I immediately got it and thought "huh huh water joke." "Wade" is as painfully obvious as "Ember."
@@emissaryofcharybdis105 wade is an obvious joke whereas you could probably guess the character’s name was ember just by looking at her and being given 1-2 guesses.
99% chance there's going to be a scene where the water guy gets sad and becomes ice and I'm imagining about 15 other identical Pixar scenes for this
Water boy: "I didn't choose to be born this way!"
Fire girl: "Neither did I!"
*Fire girl walks away with girl boss strut, water boy turns to ice*
*Conflict resolves after 30-40 minutes of action alongside comic-relief characters*
*Water boy and fire girl apologise, everyone is happy, the end*
*Cut to 30 years later; passive-aggression, drug abuse and divorce lawyers made of Uranium or something*
@@JoePesciBallsack the famous Disney "forced drama" moment
"we're two thirds of the way through the movie and we need both main characters to argue over something stupid so they can have a sincere moment of reconciliation and unite to achieve whatever dipshit plot contrivance we thought up"
Fire lady is going to dim out when she is sad or is dying
@@NarcissistMargarine Even as a child I could see this 'moment' coming from a mile away in movies. It is probably one of the tropes i hate the most, because It is treated as something that a movie ought to have, and is often just shoved into the plot in an unnatural way.
What kinda ticks me off is how people are calling this concept "original".
Are Flash games really already a forgotten art? The only thing original about the two main characters is that fire is now the girl and water is now the boy.
so proud of their transition
happy for them meeting their transition goals!
Even that’s not original because sharkboy and lava girl did it first
sharkboy and lavagirl tho
flame princess from adventure time
The water elements look like they belong in a mucinex commercial
It sure looks like a movie.
Agree to disagree
Of all the movies coming out in 2023, this will be one of them
in this motion picture, the pictures definitely move
Of all the movies made, this was one was certainly animated
This says something
Just looks like "Visual gags: The movie". Something that would be a cute short before the ACTUAL Pixar movie. Not to mention the "star-crossed lovers" premise is so overdone. You can imagine every scene and joke in your head if you've seen any similar movies.
For Pixar, at the very least, a whole movie centered around "star-crossed lovers" is something they haven't really done in the past.
Why can't these visual gags be more subtle or funny? We get whole screen focus on some dumb blooper stuff that would be fine in the background. When WALL-E put the spork between the spoons and forks out of confusion, I at least smiled. Pixar clearly ran out of ideas before 2010.
@@zedmercury2605 couldn't they just explore that theme in a Zootopia or Insideout sequel instead of making a completely new movie in a vaguely similar settings.
You summed it up pretty well, this 100% seems like it should be a short film, not a feature length production
@@cman8995 Zootopia had nothing to do with Pixar though. You can tell because it was much better than a Pixar movie. But I agree that they should have just done a romance in that world if that's what they wanted to do. Anything for another furry movie.
"Thicc fire thighs" is a phrase that will live in my head rent free forever now lmao
Good song title tbh
You've got to start charging.
Skyrim, anyone?
Let the Rule 34 commence. Aw who am I kidding - it's totally already happening. God bless the internet.
This truly follows the Pixar formula of "What if (blank) had feelings?"
They should have stopped after they did "what if feelings had feelings?".
coming in 2031 what if, had feelings?
Yes they ran out of ideas so much they asked the question, what if questions had feelings?
The concept of concepts in a question of a question.
you could say that about any story...
@@the-birbo Not really. Kung Fu panda isn't "what if panda had feelings", neither is porco rosso "what if pig had feelings".
But it does work on pixar a lot which is why people are worried they're getting stale.
@@WakoDoodle but that doesnt work with most of their films as well as you think. Maybe you could say they are "what if the main character were (blank)" but that also fits every story. Toy Story isn't really about "what if toys had feelings". It's about a new guy in town making the head honcho jealous enough to try to kill him and then instantly regret it and they just happen to be toys. Cars isn't really about "what if cars had feelings". It's about a famous racer learning humility and respect after almost losing everything (or something like that) and they just happen to be cars.
You could say Kung Fu Panda is "what if pandas had feelings" if you just ignore the story like everyone does with their extremely shallow critiques of pixar movies lol
I get that you don't want to come up with an entire history for a fictional world
but no city on earth is called "Human Town"
cough cough Zootopia cough cough Element City
Zootopia at least makes sense. Animals inhabit zoos, it’s a utopia for all animals; it’s definitely more creative than Element City. It sounds like a placeholder for the actual name.
Zoo is just greek for animal .
@@TheMedicatedArtist literally was about to comment this, element city sounds so boring and unoriginal like at least try to make it sound cool like elementum or periodi city or something actually clever
Reach city on planet reach cough COUGH
@@dodojesus4529 Reach is a colony world - New York, New York City etc
Only way it'd be comparable would be if Element City was not only a colonial city, but was also named as such after the elementals broke free of slavery and decided to have the city itself be a monument to that achievment
Ah, yes, the wild, untamed forces of nature in...a city. Just the environment they can best be utilized. 10 out of 10, Pixar.
Honestly if they went with the city I feel like the least we could've gotten is making this element city feel more like it's built for and by element people. I mean, why are they all just travelling on some sort of boat train? Why not have the cloud people be propelled to different areas with giant fans, or for water people to travel via waterslides or hoses or something? And maybe those aren't perfect but I made them up on the spot. Literally anything that ties in more strongly with their designs and the world. I'm sure you could get a lot of mileage of whatever themes you choose to explore with that as well.
It's just that of what we've been shown so far it... feels really uncreative
I saw the teaser to Elemental and it already feels like I've seen the whole film and then forgot it as soon as I saw it.
The whole _these two are different but will they work out_ love story plots aren't terrible, but will this film _wow_ audiences or give them something they've never seen before in a hundred other things?
Even the style looks boring, just because we've been exposed to it too many times in _Inside Out_ and _Soul._ The world doesn't have a firm identity: it just feels like _modern Disney Pixar urban fantasy city 03._
It feels weird that this is the same company that made Ratatouille, which I personally think is the best Pixar film of them all.
I like Incredibles the most, cause its probably the best of them that doesnt reuse the " what if X thing was people" idea that almost every pixar movie integrates to some degree.
@@NudeSophist It does to a degree. It asks, "What if Superheroes were people?"
@@lagerku.3137 thats a stretch, superheroes have always been humanised and had their daily lives and feelings explored
@@Mars-dw2zc Yeah, but it still conforms to Pixar's _Hidden Lives of X_ motif.
Oddly enough, I don't think Ratatouille follows that formula, either.
I think the first teaser trailer for Monsters Inc was better in terms of lore and world building than the first teaser trailer for Elemental. It could turn around and the actual film could be amazing, but Element City is still the laziest name they could have could up with.
"a love story between fire and water"
*Sounds..... steamy.*
As a lifelong videogame enjoyer, I've seen both sides of the "QUIT HAVING FUN!"-discourse more times than I can count. Either someone thinks you're objectively a terrible human being for enjoying something they didn't, or they think you're actively trying to ruin their life by not enjoying something they liked. The internet did something weird to the concept of opinions. It's like we need everything to be streamlined now. Either something is the best thing ever or the worst thing ever; you don't get to have a subjective opinion of it.
Oh, and the whole "Shut up and let people enjoy things!"-things is one of the worst and most toxic manifestations of manufactured positivity and fake optimism there is. If you cannot enjoy something unless the world is expunged of anyone's critical opinion of it, you are a literal baby, and you need to grow up and build the confidence to stand by your own opinions and preferences without constantly needing the rest of the world to reaffirm your beliefs in order to feel valid. I enjoy criticizing stuff I don't like. In fact, it's even part of my job. Why shouldn't I be allowed to enjoy that? Shut up and let me enjoy not enjoying the stuff you like.
I think to be fair, this isn't an internet thing: it's a human thing. Just the internet has made it worse.
Not sure about the whole " shut up and let people enjoy things" thing either, but I don't think I've ever seen it as meaning for zero criticism or negative takes on something. Mostly I've seen it used to address people who excessively go out of their way to be shitty towards people because they are enjoying something that a person didn't like, or is objectively not great.
@@reddawnstudios2016 Honestly, the only times I've ever seen anyone use "Let people enjoy things!" as an argument is when something they enjoy is criticized. There have been pushed to "end negativity" and that sort of thing. To try and make it against ToS to make critical content on TH-cam or whatever. It's obnoxious and asinine. People will actively seek out negative buzz about things they like and then be upset when they find it. And then claim that other people not enjoying the thing they like is somehow ruining their experience, because their emotions have to be universally applicable to be valid or something.
I get it. I like a lot of trash media too. I just don't depend on the validation of others in order for my enjoyment to feel justified.
Yeah, I’ve been on the negative side of that argument somewhat with video games and it’s the worst but if it weren’t for the toxic positivity I would never have gotten that bad. I can look back and cringe at that part of my past, but it doesn’t really excuse how shitty gaming fandoms are when it comes to this. For whatever reason it seems like gamers are some of the most likely to judge you just based on what you like/dislike and I know it happens with everything but it’s like with gaming it leads to insults and shit.
@@Sc4recrow44 I'm paraphrasing, but at some point I'm sure I either heard or read that the most lucrative 'gamer' segment are middle aged women playing Candy Crush and its one billion derivatives.
At this point there going to inadvertently remake Hetalia and I will laugh every step of the way.
What If countries had emotions?
I wonder how they can incorporate generational trauma into Rome and Juliet starting that flash game
Didn't Romio and Juliete die cause of generational trauma?
@@captaincrazycreative No they died on Cool Math Games.
I’m so excited to see Wade confess that he likes the word moist on the big screen
A story with Periodic Elements could be fun. Seperating the world into different levels for each energy level of elements, having the noble gases be the kings of each level, the nonmetals are in kingdoms because of covalent bonds and metals are solitary that capture nonmetals into their own form. Not sure how the story could go down, but having something about reactions or fusing would fit.
I'd unironically watch this idea over Elementals any day
and just like that you have better worldbuilding then whatever tf pixar's "element city" is
Remember also that this movie is being directed by the same director as the good dinosaur, which even the most die-hard of pixar fans don’t like
I've heard that movie got fucked by studio demands and shit, and that this one is about the author's experience with his love life as an immigrant or whatever, which does sound more interesting but of course we get none if that in the teaser, like I get not wanting to spoil the whole thing obviously, but refusing to at least properly introduce the premise and just fill the teaser with predictable visual gags in an urban setting like they didn't do this shit already in Soul, Onward, and Zootopia if we wanna count Disney too doesn't help making the film not look generic.
Good dinosaur had a lot of trouble production, and changed 2 or 3 times of director. Its not entireley his fault, he had to fix something already "broken" if u see what i mean.
People have to see it in the perspective of having grown up with Pixar in the 2000s. I imagine most of the people dunking on this film already are people around my age (23) who grew up with Pixar when it was in its prime (2001-2010). Each film was completely fresh and original apart from the Toy Story sequels. Each one is iconic and stands alone in its own way. So it's understandable why people are getting fed up with very similar movies from Pixar each year.
Toy Story 2 is definitely very different from the first one. I'd say there were certainly some great, original ideas behind it
That's the thing, right? I get the impression that people don't even really hate this trailer, they're just kind-of disinterested. But because Pixar fans are so vocal and aggressive about people liking the thing, it's pushing people into being more frustrated and doubling down. Like this isn't going to be an Emoji movie, it's not going to be terrible. It just feels really bland and forgettable, and in a way that's almost worse than being bad to some people because at least something bad gets talked about.
I feel like this film is going to come out, it'll have maybe a few days of discourse, then it'll be gone and nobody will really care. And I feel like the hard Pixar stans are going to fucking HATE that!
Cars blew
To be fair they have been reusing this "what if X thing was a world with people" in almost every movies setting since the start. Toy Story is what if toys were people, Bugs Life is what if bugs were people, Cars is what if cars were people, Finding Nemo is what if fish were people, Monsters Inc is what if monsters were people, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
@@NudeSophist Those aren't unique worlds, though, which is what helped them be more imaginative. Toy Story is just about toys that come alive, it's not about toys that go to their own unique toy world. They're out dealing with real situations that make sense for what they are. Same for Bugs Life, there's the 'big city' but it's not like that's just a special magic bug world or something, it's just made out of soup cans and other garbage, which is pretty neat. I feel like even Cars kind-of gets a pass here? It's not a great movie, but at least there's stuff specific to being a car that you can work with to make an interesting setting.
I look at Elemental and it just feels like Soul, right? Because "What if afterlife" doesn't really give you much to go off of. I mean, I like Soul, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't want EVERYTHING to be like Soul, right?
This just kind-of feels like they're out of ideas for things to anthropomorphize because we did animals, insects, vehicles, toys, robots, fish, dinosaurs, ghosts, emotions... dogs....... Monsters.....? I guess they could do urban legends or mythology? "What if Bigfoot but people"? I don't know what the right move is, but this just feels really bland because there's just nothing to work with in a "What if elements but people" film. You can't really make a house out of just water and have it look interesting and believable, right? It's not a great start for worldbuilding, I think.
I feel so bad for everyone who has incredible stories and work their lives to get to work for a company with long notoriety and so much money but they’re forced to work on the blandest, most common stories of this era just to make rent and eat … painful
lol, "Forced to work". What a dumb argument. It's fine if you're not looking forward to Elemental. But being offended for people working on a movie that you lack interest in, is both hilarious and sad.
@@crfstewarje … yeah if you want to get by and you work in the animation field which is hard to get a job in, you end up working in projects you don’t really get a choice in, unless you want to go back to a minimum wage job, which isn’t livable. that’s what I mean by “forced”
@@crfstewarje this also isn’t me making an attempt at making an argument. I was just stating a different perspective I haven’t seen a lot of people state in the comments
@@crfstewarje They’re not offended? What?
Im gonna play devil's advocate for the furbait cop movie and say that calling the city where all types of animals live together in harmony zootopia (zoo + utopia) is a cute wordplay, elemental city is just a nothing name cant defend that
"The water hurt her?"
Yeah Adum, don't you play Pokémon?
ikr smh 🤦♀️
Can’t wait for the stunning cameos from “sh*t*ng toothpaste man” and “Musinex booger guy”
the most interesting thing about the movie is that it might be Pixar's first romantic comedy. previews Pixar films like walle had romantic elements, but they were never the main plot.
WallE smashed in that movie… garbage that is
@@julianmx13 crushed it
@UCwF0Db3WEj9Pe0KxGFed-hw you could argue that, and it does have way more romance than even the average Disney princess movie. what i mean is that Elemental seems to be way more of a standard love story.
@@maccas1206 Maybe in the first half, second-half revolves way more around getting back to earth.
@@zedmercury2605Until it becomes about saving WALL•E again.
I can't believe they made an adaptation out of my favorite flash game, Fire Boy & Water Girl!
Weird they genderbent the characters tho.
i guess they thought fire boy would be too obv, cause fire is masculine, water is not blah blah
Nah, the fire boy and water girl games were 2 player games trying to get to a door, great games, but doesn't look anything like this trailer
How does Osmosis Jones, a film from 2001, look better than this?
Traditional animation ages better than cgi
@@ChiangKai-Shrek Also, it had an unique artstyle instead of looking like a toothpaste ad.
That feels like the most paint-by-numbers idea for a Pixar movie possible
The subtext of "let people enjoy things" is essentially "everything is subjective, therefor no one can observe things in a critical way"
Its an overarching ideal rather than a situational response.
Tbh everything is subjective isn’t entirely wrong because just how much you enjoy something is subjective, but there are definitely standards, as much as they are up for debate. You can enjoy a game with bad framerate, your enjoyment and having a good time is subjective and you can wax on about philosophy there, but is anyone going to argue 20FPS is good for a video game? It’s just really stupid messy semantics.
Adum mentions a lot how you can enjoy bad things, and some people take that too personally. I agree it’s a blunt way for him to say it, but Adum is right about it honestly. And being blunt doesn’t really make it rude, and if he went on about it, then any resulting argument would go pretty much nowhere. Saying “everything is subjective” really is just people trying to avoid/shut down criticism when they can’t have a more mature conversation or realise the nuance there. Wether they’re really defensive, or just not that introspective, it’s dumb. It isn’t even very nuanced anyway.
Edit: sorry if my reply is kinda harsh lol idrc random youtube comments.
"Let people enjoy things"? Jokes on you, I enjoy being a hater
I once saw a comment of one of these people defending Elemental, that guy/gal/whatever had the audacity to write "it's because of people like them that creativity is dying". There's so much to unpack from such idiotic sentence.
Can you imagine the potential edutainment value if they'd chosen the periodic table over the classical elements? Give kids their laugh while teaching them something, and give their parents a laugh with all the potential science kids won't get up front... But instead they went the lazy shovelware route because they know it'll still make money. How tragic.
Nah periodic table the movie is going to be a different movie and they'll title it as "The Chemicals"
@@cman8995 it takes place in chemical town
yeah make the starcrossed lovers an uhh caesium and h2o lmao if they touch they turn into a nuke
But then the Radiums would make everyone sick around them and poison them to death. Too graphic and terrible for the kids
@@Mars-dw2zc "was it good for you?"
"It was a blast!"
I reached a point in my life where, with few exceptions, every disney/pixar movie just melds together in my mind, cant tell them apart anymore
I've finally figured out what this movie looks like. It looks like a 3d platformer adaptation of a 2d animated film.
"Element City" is like if Zootopia was called "Animal City". Big first draft energy.
How tf does that end up being approved for the final script?
Element city feels like a place-holder name, so they can write the script , flesh out the story and then come up with some creative name.
Best case scenario, this film goes the complete opposite direction we expect it to. Instead of your typical, run of the mill "forbidden love" and "opposites attract" route, they go completely the other way by presenting a harmful and toxic relationship. Think about it, it is a fact that water and fire do not mix. Not figuratively, literally these two characters have the capacity to seriously harm each other. The very first interaction we see is the fire girl being hurt from the water dude's touch. Pixar has tackled mature themes before. I think it would be very unique and interesting to show the reality of a harmful relationship and when to recognize that a relationship is putting you out and walk away from it.
I want to work for the studios just so I can upload a trailer in 144p and see what Adum does.
This feels like an AI wrote a concept for pixar using its previous movies.
AI would do better than this.
I can already imagine elements having societal problems with each other as a metaphor for racial discourse like it hasn't been done in last 500 animated movies.
$100 says the fire people are discriminated against because they're too destructive and Ember will be the one who changes that (she will be the only one to try in the last 10000 years)
@@Keygentlemen that or it will be like an interracial relationship slander, fire and water cant be together, it just doesn’t work. Or something like that
I'm 99% sure that's where they are going with it but I really hope to be wrong because it's just... stupid. Water and fire literally cannot mix, not just because of society, but because of PHYSICS ._.
and then they'll make the marginalized people actually have genetic or natural differences that give the majority a reason to be afraid of them which adds just a taste of eugenics into the film
@@alexiss5807 I've recently read that the director is Korean, and said on the interview that elemental reflects how he felt living in America as a Korean so... 99% sure it's going to be another metaphor animated movie about a race lol.
I swear this movie was made off that Tumblr comic I've seen a million times about the water boy loving the fire girl, but they're uncompatible due to their nature, but they try to make it work or something.
Works alright in a comic, but in a movie it sounds downright painful.
My big takeaway is just how good Kevin Temmer Tunes is. I only saw this trailer once when I went to see Puss in Boots so when I saw your thumbnail, I thought you included his video as an extra little goof. Highly recommend seeing Kevin's stuff, excellent animator! Oh, and the movie's okay I guess. I'm not excited for it. (Elemental is okay, I mean. The new Puss in Boots is great)
Adam would probably love it if the water guy confessing he likes the word “moist” was an actual scene!
3:41 this is literally every fanbase, I said I hated a certain popular DC character on some forums and you would have thought I murdered these peoples kids in front of them and shot their dog. And I'm talking constant messages for nearly a week. Fanbases are insane when you criticize anything they like and then they'll sit there and wonder why quality goes down. People get DEATH THREATS for not liking certain video games. Its so out of hand.
who was the character tho because im curious
It was batman, wasn't it?
Most people are idiots
At this point, I’m more excited for the Kingdom Hearts worlds that could come from Disney/Pixar flicks than the flicks themselves
Disney movies at this point are just "what if X had feelings".
Well, that's what it always was. Literally from the beginning
Is this comment from 2010
Waiting for them to go full circle and have a world full of those living desk lamps.
@@soapbiter36577 Is this reply from 2008?
Next up is "What if corporations had feelings" and it's just a movie making them seem like the victim
I love the four elements as a... well, element of a story. that's why at first it looked interesting to me. But that whole setting for only a love story? between fire and water? it's like I've already watched this movie a thousand times
I have a few theories as to why some people interpret contrary opinions as personal attacks:
1: They believe that if something they really like doesn't become super popular it won't make a lot of money and therefore they'll stop making more of that thing they like. Which is only sort of true, but plenty of things that have been largely panned by critics and casual viewers alike have had sequels and entire franchises.
2: They spend a lot of time on the internet, specifically social media. The vast majority of the user content of these sites consist of people's opinions on stuff, and the most visible ones are always the most extreme and negative/reactionary. So it is likely they've come across lots of hyperbolic negative opinions on That Thing They Like, maybe even a few making fun of fans like them, calling them childish, gullible, nostalgia-blind, etc. and they interpret that as a judgemental attack on their tastes and personal character.
I feel the latter is more accurate. It's not a calculated effort get more content. When it becomes a special interest or hyperfixation, the thing that is criticized starts feeling like a part of someone's identity (it's not really an identity but neurodivergence can often make it feel that way). I do think it is low to make judgements about the people who enjoy something. 'X fans must be childish and emotionally stunted if they think something like this is good.' Why would anyone feel the need to pick apart the people who enjoy something? Some people do take a leap in logic though and assume that picking apart the thing they like means they're shaming people for liking it. I've found 'I' statements on opinions help diffuse these kinds of situations a lot but there is definitely this unfair standard that hating on media is rude and hurtful when it really is just an inconsequential opinion.
@@privernd I’m neurodivergent myself and I enjoyed listening to people’s opinions on stuff online when I was a kid. And the thing you mentioned is literally what happened to me as a kid. (Combine that with a low self esteem and you got some issues) I grew out of it but I still feel the need to hide the stuff I enjoy sometimes out of fear that the person I’m talking to would think less of me. This basically comes from my neroudivergence and general anxiety. I’m much better about it now but it was difficult to get rid of
“Quit criticizing the thing I like”
It’s like they don’t know Adam at all. Lmao
The only animated film I'm excited to see this year is Across the Spider-Verse.
They're making another one of those?
@@WoahLookAtThatFreak yeah Sony is making 2 more
Same. Everything else looks so bad…
Mario being “Peak fiction”? Please…..
@@WoahLookAtThatFreak luckily yes. And beyond the spider-verse is coming in 2024
@@cloudshines812 I think that’s mostly hyperbolic exaggeration but I am intrigued in the Mario movie but no where near as excited for across the spiderverse
The "quit having fun" meme is basically just the guy who gets dunked on but repeats "I'm not bothered, you're the one who's bothered" with tears in his eyes.
Almost every time I see it it's in response to very normal criticism of a generally commercially popular product that people often don't hold to any kind of basic standard out of either nostalgia or generally low quality standards (the Pokemon community has this battle a lot). And it just feels like such a smug way to try and dismiss criticism as "trying to ruin people's enjoyment of a thing".
I'm sorry but, if a handful of people voicing their criticism of something really makes you mad enough to make a passive aggressive meme about it, did you ever really like the product at all? Or did you like being in something you think is "universally liked" because you've got nothing else going on?
Like, people criticize the hell out of the Danganronpa series, a lot, and I still love all of the games and even the canonical sequel anime that people hate. It's crazy how you can just...y'know...like something regardless of other people not liking it.
It’s almost as if redditors try to enjoy everything vicariously through what they see on reddit
Dude I totally agree, but you know what? I absolutely love love love Skylanders and talking about that series is a shit show. The fandom itself sucks with a bunch of corrupt cliques, a shit ton of kids and everyone else hates the series. I don’t really know what my point is except that I know what being in a similar position is like and being called “cringe” and shit and tbfh life is too short to worry about that shit just because you like an unpopular game or something. It definitely sucks liking something so unpopular and being unable to share it with more than a handful of people but it would suck more getting in arguments over it. People who waste their time being so defensive over this shit… yeah well it just really is a waste of time imo and they need just suck up criticism, its a pixar movie so its going to be fine anyway. You can see the same thing in pokemon fans going after criticism, its very stupid and sad these people use so much time on this which genuinely is annoying and in extreme cases can be like harassment toward other people. I guess when a fandom/people are genuinely toxic and making bad faith arguments it gets more complicated, but those people won’t listen to genuine arguments anyway which I have seen with Skylanders because people are just fixated on one screenshot from 2011 and clearly know nothing about the series so they make the most idiotic arguments lmao. So I don’t really bother with the debate because those people won’t listen anyway. You have to know when to cut your losses
Reminds me of one video talking about modern Star Wars fans and how they made the brand part of their core personalities and any criticism of a movie is like a personal attack to their very selves. They can't just like or dislike a movie anymore.
@@SammEater yes, but even more fundamentally it is quite concerning that there is so little motivation by so many to conduct independent research i.e buy the game, play it, read the article instead of skimming the gist of it from the reddit post headline
The only thing I could think of when I saw this movie got announced was how it's so similar to the cool math game's FireBoy and WaterGirl.
God the character designs are so bad lmfao 💀 they could have done something so cool but I want the water guy to evaporate like holy shit
I need a layman’s breakdown of the psychology motivating Disney adults and why they identify so strongly with a corporation that they feel the need to go way out of their way to defend its products like this. I’ve never seen someone do this with Pepsi or McDonald’s so I’m wondering what makes someone stan a media conglomerate like this.
In the era of VHS/DVD some families just slapped on Disney movies as the easy babysitter they could trust to be safe and inoffensive. Thus those people grew up with a deep love for Disney. I'm just worried about the zoomer generation and gen alpha, when they grow up are they going to identify strongly with cringe TH-camrs and Chinese content farm videos?
@@SamuelCatsy I think this gets pretty close to explaining it. See also the Nintendo stans who are now hyped for the Mario movie because the trailers blew away everyone's rock-bottom expectations.
Some people (most) never grow up to develop their tastes, just idly sitting back and reexperiencing the same shit that once was unique and new to them. Low standard people with no barometer for quality. There's a reason they made so many transformers movies, it's cause dipshits kept going to watch them. I think people Stan this shit cause it's all they know, and they get offended when being informed that they just aren't that nuanced in their opinion to understand that their taste is trash.
They are adults who can’t grow up and are in denial.
@@SamuelCatsy my 5 yearr old cousin watches these russian minecraft videos literally all day to the point where he speaks like the titles
illd be making a sandwich and he'd be like "my cousin? making a sandwich? in real life?" which is to say the fact that clickbait youtube videos forms almost his entire lexicon means it might have already happened lmao
I mean a romance plot doesn't feel "recycled" in terms of Pixar films, because I can't think of a Pixar film that was a romance tbh. I don't count Up or Toy Story, because the romance in those wasn't really the central plot itself.
So congrats to Pixar for branching out and trying something new, and by that I mean the oldest story in the book.
no
The elements are: Earth, Clouds, Fire, Water, Plants Other Than Someone's Hair, and Someone With Green Christals Growing Out Of Her Head.
Or, maybe Earth and Plants are a single element called Nature.
I always chuckle abit when YMS is watching a new trailer and complains its not in 4k. Its a valid thing to be annoyed about but its also so consistent
It's probably for the best they didn't go with, like, elements elements, because one of the morals would be... some things just shouldn't mix, probably. That could possibly send the wrong message with anthropomorphic creatures lol
EDIT: WELL lmao we'll see!
You can already tell it's going to be a plot that doesn't actually use the concept of the world and will just be the typical "romeo and juliet" crap we've seen a thousand times. Maybe we'll see some visual gags and set pieces, but the actual story won't change.
I hate Disney as much as the next guy but I've not seen anyone be defensive about people not liking this trailer. Most people have just disliked the teaser from what I've seen.
Feeling personally attacked by others opinions is a sign of insecurity. Meaning, deep down they know full well that the product is not that good, so they desperately try to deflect any kind of criticism by labeling it as "hate speech", but in reality they are in full denial. A pointless endeavour really, because at the end of the day, they are only delaying the inevitable next 8 stages of grief, considering the current state of Pixar's animations. That's the advantage of being skeptical. You are always ready for uncertainties and changes.
It's called Buyers Remorse.
Nice projection
@Z S That's not how projection works, but if you don't know that, you're definitely part of the target audience for the crap they have been putting out for the last couple of years.
@@electricfishfan That's anonymity bias
If the movie is imperfect but you still like it, fucking own that. Don’t be like “you don’t understand” just be like “yeah I can see why you wouldn’t like it, I still like it though.”
That Quit Having Fun meme template is so ass. You can tell someone's angry about backlash when they use it.
When it opened up to the train/subway thing my mind was like...."Oh ok so its copying the Zootopia trailer."
*_Disney/PIXAR's Tax Write-off_*
I just feel like it looks super standard. 🤷♂️ I'm sure that future trailers and stuff will show us what spice this story has, but right now, it feels very generic.
In general, the less I'm sold on a Pixar premise, the better the movie turns out. But that was back when Pixar used to produce excellent films.
"Pixar is copying Avatar" mfs when I tell them Last Airbender didn't invent the elements.
(They don't know air, water, earth, and fire occur in nature).
Fr, im an avatar fan but i like how avatar worked elements into its story and worldbuilding but ofc they didnt create the elements
At least Pixar made Plant and Earth different elements (because the one made of crystals is very clearly distinct from the plants) otherwise this would be even more lame
Me, who knew of Chakan the Forever Man on Sega Genesis:
They missed the opportunity to name the city Electri City
Water guy is looking like a discount Osmosis Jones
This movie releases 2 weeks after Across the Spiderverse, 1 week after Transformers 6, and the same week as The Flash
Is Disney trying to tank their theatrical animation branches
This shit aint making NO BREAD
With Disney Animation studio pretty much doing the 3D animations better than modern Pixar, there might be some truth to that. Maybe the corporate suits need a reason to axe one of their studios, because in their heads: "why keep two studios making basically the exact same thing?"
5:48 HE SAID THE LINE!
What I enjoy about the movie's concept is that the director, Peter Sohn, is making the movie based on his experiences being raised as a Korean immigrant in New York and the cultural clashes that came when dating someone who wasn't Korean.
So yeah, it is a love story with race and diversity as a theme. Sorry for the people who think just because Zootopia had similar topics then it can't be done again because that's not creative enough... Even though this is a personal story that took 8 years in development and is being done by a man who was thankfully given another chance to make a movie at the studio after The Good Dionsaur turned out to be a box office and critical flop thanks to the coorporate interferance.
Thankfully, this time it seems like he and his team were given enough time to make Elemental (and I personally enjoy that the film is taking a more stylized look in its element effects and character designs). Sorry again for the people who don't like the "Cal-Arts Style".
I, and many others, can allow people to not be excited over this, but I also want those people to let the ones who are looking foward to the film (who aren't just doing it for it being Pixar) enjoy it as well without being grouped with the Disney simps just because this movie is under the corporation's umbrella.
I also agree with Adam when he mentions that its too early to say anything about the film itself since it's just a teaser (also this isn't even a scene that'll appear in the film), and the story is a bit of a mystery other than "opposites react", but I bet we can all give it a chance and draw positive AND negative opinions on it as a film and not "just another Pixar movie".
Use paragraphs plz
@@FlintSparkedStudios whoops. Okay 😗
I really don’t want to be that guy but Disney Pixar consistently consistently consistently makes movies about these kinds of forbidden loves and like each one has been straight.
It’s just so stagnant at a point
@@umjammerlammy9993 i would agree with this statement if this case wasn't different. I do agree that Disney keeps pretending to be pro LGBTQIA and yet doesn't promote Strange World for being part of the community, and insisted that their "First Gay Characters" were super progressive while banning the mentions of their orientations on places like Russia and China to gain that dough. But, at least for me, the film's "Forbidden Love" story can work in the type of themes Peter Sohn wants to portray. I.e, those he experienced. And even though they are a straight couple, I don't think it will deminish other stories outside of Disney from creating more queer couples. I was gonna argue that since it's based on Sohn's own relationship with his wife that it would be logical for him to envision a straight couple... Although he does represent himself as a hot fire lady (as she's the odd one out in that society) so idk 👀
So character design has regressed from simple shapes to just lighting effects and shaders?
Since day one I've been saying at best it'll be visually interesting because the concept of the plot itself just seems very basic.
I mean, people *should* stop defaulting the animation Oscars to Disney/Pixar. The Academy is so dismissive of animation as a medium of film that they don't even bother watching the nominees, they just say "Whatever Pixar movie came out this year, I dunno."
I'm calling it now- there will be a scene where some character attends 'element-ary school'. Possibly a college or institute of higher learning. Certainly a major miss of a joke.
Man that thumbnail is so well animated for 1987
First impressions:
- I like that they didn't give a plot synopsis.
- Pixar shot themselves in the foot by choosing Avatar elements over the periodic table. All the background characters look the same.
- Is "Element City" the best you could do? What about "Avogadro" or "Ario" or some other cool sounding chemistry pun? Similarly, you could've made "Track 2" into "Track 2p6"
- I'm getting strong "not like the other girls" vibes from the main character. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
this looks like an animation you would find on yt for free
Ikr? Like those “award winning animation shorts” that pop up from time to time.
Elemental literally feels like a fake Pixar movie. It looks like its premise was spat out by an AI after feeding it the plot of all previous Pixar films.
7:35
Even though it may be going for the more general states of matter angle of elements, there seems to be a big focus in the art assets on the periodic elements as well. Even right after Adum says this it cuts to a subway map where instead of a map its the periodic table. Everything I've seen about this movie leading up to the trailer were the designs for the two main characters. I hope the setting is more exciting than "generic city".
I wish it was about actual elements like Lithium and Lead and Uranium
Board member A: What if elements were like... people?
Board member B: Sounds good to me, but what's the plot?
Board member A: Like a love story? Or something?
Board member B: Great! Let's do it!
As someone who screams "Stop Having Fun" at people, I can confirm that Anomalisa does deserve more praise
This trailer feels so empty. From the moment Ember steps on the train I get what they’re going for. Then there’s like a full minute of basic, 2-second gags that raise more questions than answers about the actual physics of the world. And then about 5 seconds to tease the actual story.
Also, having your movie about elements, called “Elementals,” take place in “Element City,” teases more about the creativity going into this story than I think they wanted to reveal this early.
I hope there isn't another botched allegory where water and fire represent different races
The director already confirmed it's a race allegory
Want to know something fun that many people seem to not know? Most combustion reactions actually create water as a byproduct. If you have a character that is made out of fire, they are literally just making water constantly.
I'm actually unironically really excited to see this movie, it looks so good!
The animation style is... Interesting. I can't explain it, but the fire chick seems almost unfinished compared to the others.
I’d say it’s because she’s a bit stylised in terms of the fire, whereas the other elements all have a kind of hyper-realism texture to them. It looks jarring because she’s the only one with that effect.
He loves the word moist, its who he is.
I’m calling it right now, there will be a scene where the main characters fight and break up before reuniting later for the climax.
if ember and wade don't end up together in the movie I will be blown away
I feel like this is going to be a Romeo and Juliet type story just with the elements
Making a movie about the periodic table would’ve been so cool tbh
I got a prager u ad on this video, i hate youtube