The worst part is that disney has such a massive hate-boner for 2d animation that they couldn't even make the "2D" characters look 2D . Its just cell-shaded CGI
Disney has made recent short films that blend traditional and computer animation way better than this, like Paperman for example. Why they couldn't just use it in this film I have no idea.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit is over 30 years old and looks so much better. It really proves that all the technological innovations don't mean anything if you just don't care.
@@GarredHATES Someone on Adum's Space Jam 2 said sth: Space Jam 1 was animated by 2d animation veterans, while 2 was animated by a bunch of fresh people who didn't study hand drawned animation anymore.
Everyone’s already mentioned how Rodger Rabbit has already outdone this movie in 1988, but I think it’s also important to note that Epic Mickey did the “corrupted nostalgia” concept better as well. IMO it’s a much healthier dose of meta for lighthearted cartoon characters acting like themselves but in a darker wasteland setting, rather than cynical versions of cartoon characters populating a cynical modern world.
Epic Mickey is PAINFULLY slept on. It's a great take on the darker shiz that Disney has done and let happen to its characters, and it shows people that SURPRISE MICKEY ISN'T PERFECT which is why I like his character SO much in Kingdom Hearts-bring THAT Mickey to the ACTUAL Mickey Mouse dammit.
@@LordLucario12 To be fair, the darker concept art wasn't intended to be actually used, it was only for Warren Spector to see how far he could take the idea before executives told him it was too much.
Bruh, Epic Mickey *slapped*. The sequel did away with a LOT of the grime, which made it less of a satisfying experience, but the first one was HEAT straight through
The fact that they added 2019 Pumbaa into this movie feels like a joke. A joke that was purposely made just to fuck with Adum. Plus the "weird dead eyes" line carries so much irony it's laughable in a different way.
Isn't that the entire point of the joke? Like, the only punchline of that joke is that the "dead eyes" jab was thrown at the new lion king movie so much? I hate it when people are pedantic about irony, but is it ironic at all when that's the intended take away?
@@Chance57 Yeah i don't understand how people are so dense to it. The dead eyed Lion King character makes a joke about the Zemeckis character having dead eyes. Pretty cut and dry set up and punchline.
@@Chance57 I think adum has what we all have inside us, that inner fanboy that gets very...uptight about certain fandoms. I have it, you have it, we all have it.
@@MrBman9001 Maybe, but I think the only intended joke is that both characters are voiced by Seth Rogen and there was no actual intention to poke fun at Disney's own property
What they don't get is that if you remove the satire from Shrek, there is still a story with genuine heart in it. They're trying to be all "It's okay, look! See, we can take it!" but they forgot the soul, so it's only cynicism.
Shrek was honestly a lot better than this. It's tone and pacing was way better established. Looking at this trailer it just looks like they read off a list of IP's they could use and forced them together without thinking about anything other than how they can make jokes at there expense. The animation looks like they just picked up a bunch of assets they already made for other films and slapped them together cheaply over some generic live action footage.
I wish positions for voice actors were actually filled with talented voice actors instead of brand name celebrities that can't voice act but bring in higher revenue and marketing.
Do they though? I don’t give a fuck that Chris Pratt is voicing X and Y. I’m not looking at him act on camera, i want his voice to fit the character which, 99.99999999% of the time, it doesn’t
@@adsweaty thing is I think that some actors do have a knack for voice acting. Chris Pratt was pretty good in the Lego movie but that’s like lightning in a bottle. That almost never happens otherwise.
@@AnimatedTerror Chris Pratt was good in the Lego movie because the character was designed for Chris. It was a brand new character voiced by Chris Pratt that was basically the main character from guardians of the galaxy. Is Chris Pratt Mario? No, thats charles martinet Is Chris Pratt Garfield? Fuck no Is Chris Pratt talented? Yes he is, but let’s save the voice acting for the voice actors shall we?
from my knowledge the amazing world of gum ball uses 3-D rendered sets, they look real but it’s all models they can control this allows them to see the grid it’s made from and place the characters in it properly, actually using footage makes it harder to pin down exact angles and proper placements for the characters
They hate 2D animation so much that not only is the “2D” just cell shaded 3D animation, but the “2D” chipmunk is behind the times and still uses old technology! Surely such a self-congratulating piece of media will do great with an audience that is so burned out on this shit 😂
The 2021 Tom & Jerry movie had better stylized 3D models that at least somewhat captured the style of 2D, and that movie was still terrible. This is just embarrassing.
The weird thing is that they still use 2d for their tv shows/cartoons on the Disney Channel, like Amphibia and The Owl House. And they seem to do just fine...
Trying to make a deconstructive comedy filled with self-digs doesn't work when the company making it is completely in love with themselves. Pumbaa making that joke proves it, they really think that the animation of Lion King 2019 is expressive in comparison to early mo-cap like Beowulf, and they are seriously trying to pat themselves on the back for how great their animation is.
It's odd that this film is making fun of Zemeckis' mo-cap animated films, but Disney actually distributed two of them themselves. A Christmas Carol and Mars Needs Moms to be exact. Hell, they were going to make a Yellow Submarine remake in that style, but it was canceled after Mars Needs Moms bombed.
This is my biggest issue too. Disney is now incapable of being the butt of a joke for even a second cause they think it’s gonna destroy their brand. The movie could actually be a fun time if this was more like Enchanted and actually made fun of themselves.
@@konkeydong7194 maybe? But the fact that live action Seth doesn’t say anything back and it’s just Seth Rogan Pumbaa laughing at him makes me think not.
It's such a cop-out. The main conceit of the joke is absolutely dead in the water. Oh you cell shaded him and cranked down the FPS a little bit? He's still CGI! We can see hand-drawn 2D characters in the background of other shots ffs.
@@joinsideke I suspect it might also have something to do with planning? I feel like these days, things are constantly expected to change last minute but with old animation a lot more stuff has to be set in stone and meticulously planned out. It's easier to go in and change little things with cgi than with hand drawn stuff. On top of no planning, you can try shit more and see what sticks, mix and match. But these new work pipelines might not be conducive to creating a good story or creative animation. But the union thing is still probably the biggest reason
It seems kinda... shitty/insensitive to have Peter Pan be played in the way they are when the voice actor from the Disney Peter Pan died thanks to alcohol and drug abuse. Having it be Bojack Horseman seems... not great.
That is messed up. Really goes to show the amount of effort that went into this, they literally just threw it into a blender and poured out the sludge. Edit: effort in the writing. I have no doubt that there was work by the film crew and animators. also I'm sure there are some good scripts of this movie that were shot down by producers too
@@suetyhercules7717 to be fair, I'm sure they thought they were being clever by having the boy who never grows up grow up and have very adult oriented struggles, especially as the secondary villain in their corrupted nostalgia storyline, and just no one thought to check and see what happened to the actor that voiced Peter Pan or something. But, damn, ya couldn't have had it be like Christopher Robin or some shit??
@@MacabreMole lmao, tbh I would have hated this less if it was Christopher Robin. Thing is, it would have actually made sense, didn't the kid the books were written after hate Winnie the Pooh?
Oh wow, look how _meta_ the movie is being. Look at all those _ironic_ jokes. I'm so glad this *movie* has all of that and not an actual story to follow. That would be boring.
Pumbaa’s recasting is one of the most egregious imo, despite Ernie and Seth’s voices sharing superficial similarities. Timon and Pumbaa were tailor-made for Nathan Lane and Ernie Sabella, with Ernie returning to voice Pumbaa in nearly every single one of his on-screen appearances for decades. Pumbaa is not a Seth Rogen character, that laugh is not a Pumbaa laugh. It’s literally just funny man Seth Rogen as a dead-eyed warthog model.
I mean, I don't think it's a surprise considering Genie pretty much was Robin Williams in animated form. Yet they still felt it necessary to remake Aladdin, despite no soul on earth being able to measure up to Robin William's Genie. It's just Disney blatantly banking on Nostalgia Bait and remaking shit for the money because they know they have an audience who would probably buy a turd on a plate if it had the Micky mouse brand on it.
I wish this movie wasn't like the comedy and visual equivalent to the PS2 Family Guy game. There are a lot of little references in the background that show some level of care, and a giant evil corporation like Disney showing any willingness at all to laugh at their own properties and make *sliiiiightly* edgy jokes is somewhat refreshing in a way, but if this is what they're showing off to generate hype, it's clearly not very well-made at all. Also, thanks for mentioning the Gadget cult. People must know.
I can’t believe they would diss Peter Pan like this. Also, why the fuck would he age? I thought one of the unwritten, universally agreed upon rules of Cartoons and toon logic was that they are basically immortal and couldn’t age? With that logic, shouldn’t have Chip & Dale and all other toons that have made appearances in this movie been aged up too? Also yes, I know the joke is “ha ha Peter Pan is this icon of childhood purity and he’s old now!” And I get, it’s not funny, but I get it.
i think that's the point, the whole idea of peter pan is that he doesn't age so i assume that will either be relevant to the plot or at least be the butt of a few jokes.
6:06 Whoever gave Dale the CGI surgery should be charged with medical malpractice. Whoever gave Chip the cell-shaded surgery should also be charged with medical malpractice. Also, maybe drawing attention to animation styles could make people notice how bad it is compared to the original. I hope it does. I want this to blow up in Disney's faces.
Is no one going to mention how they did Peter Pan on horrendous taste considering Bobby Driscoll(Peter Pan’s voice actor) and his sad life after Peter Pan????
The defenders will insist that it's not supposed to be Peter Pan, but a new character dressed as Peter Pan. If you turn the captions on his name comes up. Edit: turns out it is supposed to be Peter Pan.
Well the movie is already pissing on the work by a defunct studio by mocking the uncanny valley art style so I'm not surprised how oddly mean spirited the film is.
@@klg9549 you can put as much love into something and it’s still shit or looks like shit. Think of The Room. It’s not meant to be a parody, Wiseau was completely serious about it and wanted to make it his magnum opus. He’s now self aware enough to know it was terrible and people love it because it’s so terrible but it doesn’t mean it’s “good”. There has to be talent in something, love, and effort.
The weird thing is that Chip (or Dale? I don't care) is being done in a cell-shaded CGI style, but there's also characters that are being hand drawn. Cheap anime does this, the background characters that will be in one scene for the whole show get hand drawn, because it isn't worth the expense of modeling and rigging a whole CGI character for the one shot, but then it's not in the budget to hand draw the main characters for the whole show, so they go with this crap 9-12 fps cell shaded CGI style because it "looks hand drawn" and instead it just looks like you're bean-counting cretins. Disney actually has the money to do this right, and they aren't because they know this movie is shovelware garbage that Didney fans will pay for regardless.
@@CloneLoli I wouldn't say it's unpopular all together, they use it quite a lot in live action shows, just not often in anime (or at least as a replacement to traditional animation)
it pisses me off that they can get away with making any trash and profit from it simply because they’re disney. they’ve grown so big that they will always be successful no matter what and don’t even have to try anymore…
I was going to say this movie looked like what would happen if the people that made Roger Rabbit didnt care, but then I remembered Space Jam exist. So, then I guess this is more like if the people that made Space Jam didnt care, but Space Jam 2 also exist. So I guess this movie is like if the people that made Space Jam 2 didnt care, and thats just depressing to think about.
I hadn’t thought about it like that but you’re right - this has less effort in it than Space Jam 2 and that movie already had plenty of effects that looked amateurish. If I was the Disney CEO I’d shut this thing down because it’s going to cost more in brand reputation than it will gross in the theatres.
@@quaglegagle674 I, like most people, completely forgot that Cool World even existed. It is Ralph Bakshi, but there was also a lot of studio intereferance. Id put it far below Roger Rabbit, but only just above the first Space Jam on the "how much did they care about this animated/live-action hybrid movie" scale.
@@quaglegagle674 Cool World would be lower on the list than Roger Rabbit for obvious reasons. But I feel like it probably shouldn't be last place because at least there were some innovative artistic ideas that they tried with it. Unlike Space Jam 2 and this Chip N Dale film which look like lifeless corporate projects
The quircky thing in Who framed Roger Rabbit is that despite the context of that movie being cartoon characters existing in real life and cartoons is just them "acting", they have similar personalities irl and bring their quirckyiness in the "real" world. The dark and moody setting of WFRR was complemented by cartoons being themselves (from Roger Rabbit being annoying and loud to Jessica Rabbit being all sensual and sultry). These trailers give zero of that. Each character from other disney IPs seems to be in-on-the-joke, self aware and NOT like they are in their movies. On a side note, why the hell does the fish from the little mermaid live in an apartment?
There was also the fact that despite the animated characters blend well in live action scenes due to good edits and effects. The toons are intentionally made to look out of place, like they're treated as minorities. This makes the scene where Eddie goes to their world to catch Doom all the more reflecting. Since now HE'S the one that looks out of place.
Conspiracy theory: This was supposed to be the sequel to Who Framed Roger Rabbit before Disney grew a braincell and realized they didn't want to sully it's legacy and so they slapped it on to Chip n Dale and expected no one to notice or care. edit: watched it; Roger, I'm so sorry that everyone is comparing you to this shitty fucking movie oh dear God.
That is an interesting theory cause Robert Zemeckis has been trying to get a Roger Rabbit sequel off the ground for decades, just a few years ago he said he had the script ready for shooting but that Disney didn't want to make it due to Jessica ruining their image or something. So I would not be surprised if this is meant to fill that hole.
Well...Amblin/Speilberg have co-ownership of Roger Rabbit so anything with Roger in it needs Amblin's approval. Rescue Rangers is their's lock stock and barrel.
Maybe at a very early stage of production, but the tone of this is incredibly different and I'm not sure Disney would want to take the risk when they don't know if people would pay to see another Roger Rabbit. If anything I'd say this was the studios testing the waters to see if there's sufficient audience interest to do more stuff like it.
I really don't like The CG masquerading as 2D thing. They cell shaded something and dropped the frame rate and it's supposed to be 2D? Why not just commit to the bit? He didn't have the CGI surgery and he's actually traditionally hand drawn 2D. Of course that's rhetorical, we know profits and laziness are why, but it'd be nice if they said it out loud.
Its certainly gotten better, but its executives thinking 2D isn't as profitable and it takes time they don't want to spend. It sounds like things might be changing very soon, but given the current leadership at Disney not holding my breath
Well was the bad frame rate done on purpose or was it because Disney was cheap? Because 2D animation shouldn't look like it's running at 10 Frames per second.
@@samzilla567 I only noticed it with the "2D" character so I highly doubt it's anything other than intentional. We can be cynical without being myopic. If all the characters are CGI, even the "2D" one, we have to assume that the strobing is done on purpose to show the 24FPS off In a way that pre-rendered CGI characters currently do not. Thei motion blur is rendered and traditional Disney animation didn't have many smear frames between key frames. If you want both on the screen at once, the only way you'd be able to do that is if you turned down the FPS on the render. It looks like they did do exactly that. I'd wager it's intentional but look awful because they're lazy, not because they didn't understand.
This film is trying to do a Gumball situation with the mixed animation and that's fine but at the least freaking Gumball, on a tv budget, had actual 2D animation
Considering that people liked Into the Spider Verse for managing to blend 2D looks with a 3D environment (Peni and Spider Ham are stylized in a way to look 2D) I think Disney is doing the technique for Chip and others to cash in on that Spider Verse craze but ironically other studios are ending perfecting it _better_ than they can.
They couldn’t even bother with ‘actual’ 2D animation for the Chip and Dale, it instead use that crappy cel shaded CGI like they used for the recent Tom and Jerry movie. This reminds me of when they Disney brought back aging 2D animators for Mary Poppins returns because they stopped focusing on training young blood for 2D animation because the Disney company gave up. It’s legitimately disheartening how much they don’t care about 2D animation when that was their main thing ever since it’s inception. They treat CGI like an evolution of 2D rather than it’s own separate medium, which it totally is. CG animation is not an advancement of hand drawn animation, but it’s own separate medium that has its own rules.
I have seen a Newgrounds user (not going to say his name) with no budget make 3D cell animation better than what Disney is making and the guy makes art and animation for fun.
13:10 the cult is mostly just a very vocal fanbase as rescue rangers was pretty huge in the soviet union due to being one the rare disney cartoons there and having a more attractive female design. Shes like lola bunny in the american world. ~~fun fact this reboot is somehow not available in russia because russia wont be getting new disney+ movies~~
This feels like it was supposed to be a live-action reboot of Bonkers (a cartoon which, itself, was a "different enough to avoid legal action" ripoff of Roger Rabbit), a show which ran on the Disney Channel along with Chip & Dale. I remember there was a plotline where Mickey Mouse got kidnapped, and one where a villain with a "make-people-sad" gun got Goofy and he started crying. (Both characters were never actually shown on screen, mind you, but they were referenced and voice acted). I wonder if this is a mad-scientist's amalgamation of two different pitches?
I remember that in the 'kidnapped iconic cartoons' episode they had Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny impressions coming out of cages in the villain's hideout, and we never quite get a look into the shadowy cages to confirm it, but I always liked that. Reminds me of how Marvel and DC used to snipe at each other way back in the day, including each other's characters without naming them... Occasionally actually naming them, I vaguely remember a pair of reporters named Clark and Lois showing up at the Daily Bugle once in Spider-Man...
I used to love fourth wall breaking meta stuff. It seemed so cool to me… done sparingly. Then the concept just went out of control and then companies realized they could use it to pander and it all fell apart with ready player one. When they found out you could just flash popular ips in peoples faces for an hour and people would buy into that. At least roger rabbit mostly used characters that had been around for ages already and set itself In the past thusly avoiding being seen as dated. This’ll hasn’t even come out and has already dated itself.
The biggest issue with this for me is that it could actually be a fun made for streaming movie despite some of the middling animation if they actually were able to make fun of Disney at all but they definitely won’t. They’ll roast everything but themselves in this and it’s gonna come be super obvious and annoying. Some elements look cool but overall just very meh 5/10 fair.
@@HerohammerStudios I don’t think it is at all. The movie is going to come off as very unselfaware and mean if it just shits on other animated stuff and they never makes fun of themselves.
Yeah, Disney is so painfully in love with itself. I still remember the princesses scene and the Oh My Disney scene from Wreck-It Ralph 2 and this movie has those exact same tones of "commercial disguised as satire".
@@yeeyeeyeeye yeah and Disney wasn’t always like that. I remembered enchanted was a solid movie that made a lot of jokes about the tropes and cliches in classic Disney movies, which is why people like it. But now I bet they are scared to make jokes like that cause they are turning out a lot of genuine garbage. If they were still making great stuff I’m sure they’d be confident enough to make fun of themselves.
Someone on 4chan leaked the entire story of the film a few weeks ago and this trailer has very specific elements that confirm it. Basically this movie steals the plot of the live action Scooby Doo where Scrappy is the villain. Here, Pluto is the bad guy who uses plastic surgery to disguise himself and ends up a chimera monster of different toons.
That actually sounds kinda cool, A chimera of characters that we forgot about trying to stay relevant, all fuse together and end up driving people away.
the cell shading is ATTROCIOUS! It reminds me of a Telltale game without the intrigue or general stylization of a Telltale game and it MAKES MY EYES WANT TO VOMIT.
After watching the lion king 2019 review it killed me that the Seth rogan pumba is in this. I could only imagine what Adam’s initial thoughts in his head were
*Disney* is so self-effacing, that what was once _its actual face_ is now a bloody pulp from all the years of beating itself up. This is truly what *irreverent self-destruction* looks like and _I can't look away._
TLK 2019 Pumbaa: (APPEARS) Adam: *VIETNAM FLASHBACKS* Seriously, I actually screamed "FUCK YOU" when his cameo popped up. How is it that that version of Pumbaa shows up, but Lumiere is the same from the original Beauty and the Beast film?
I'm still really confused who this movie is for. This has been in development for over 5 years now, especially since it was announced around the same time as that Tom and Jerry movie that came out on HBO max, and was supposed to compete with the Alvin and the Chipmunk movies. After all that time, and it looking like this, I get the feeling that execs are finally starting to get 2d can have more appeal cgi is lacking, but would rather force it kicking and screaming into CG to save cost
that pumba joke is so surreal to think about. this is supposedly a kids movie but every other joke relies on you knowing seth voiced both characters and also the early mocap animation and its problems. just reminds me of how they're making that movie about a kid trying to go see a disney broadway musical. it's just the snake devouring itself. it's the same shit as the space jam sequel, these 'childrens' movies with the humor designed exclusively for in-the-know studio executives makes me want to vomit.
and the fact that they used the original flounder in 2d but also are erasing the original lion king movie by doubling down on forcing a god forsaken Seth Rogan pumba onto us
Let's all admit that this movie is just Disney's excuse to either reuse older assets / use assets that got left on the cutting room floor because I can really see no other reason for this existing.
The funny thing is, they sort of did a similar concept with Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which executed this attempt at a style far better than this probably will.
Roger Rabbit was done with real passion and attention to detail to the concept. A lot of the effects were done practically and then animated over. Like the scene where Roger hides in the sink. They had a machine to splash the water then animated the Weasel over the top. Just looking up clips, they paid attention to the lighting, with a rocking light constantly changing the shadows over Roger in the handcuff cutting scene. That was one of my favourite films as a child and I still love it to this day. It earned its three Oscars for effects and still looks good to this day. This Chip and Dale film will be forgotten by next year.
@@chrischandler4151 Also, the toons acted like themselves. Like off camera, they were the same, cause that's how they were drawn. These are the actors that played the characters in those animations.
@@bigbawlzlebowski8886 I had my doubts at first, but later on in the trailer it shows Chip has one of his ears switched with Pluto's, which was one of the things he mentioned.
It's honestly hilarious how 2D is considered kids movies stuff and yet 2D had the subtly, good themes and restraint from being as vulgar as possible seems that makes it more mature than this type of garbage. Even the 3D mixed with 2D is done so lazily. I remember watching Iron Giant a few weeks ago and it handled a lot of that stuff so well. The least I can say for something like this is that it makes for entertaining content to watch the Canadian horse man suffer so others can smile.
Noone - and I mean NOONE - wanted a meta "lolol, we were stars" movie. We just want a 90 min/2 hours RR movie during which they have an adventure with a new and/or old villain.
Because this let them save 98 cents and most people will never care because they consume products for the purpose of bringing themselves one movie length closer to death. Nobody going to this movie is going because they think it will bring value to their lives, they just can't imagine a better use of their time or they're 3 and have parents that can't imagine having standards for the media their kids consume.
I like that Disney spent money to get characters they don't own in this movie to make it more like Rogger Rabbit but they're all wasted on this crap. What a shame because Lego movie proved this premise can be great
You can see Gadget's ear and hair at the 6:30 mark (paused 1:30 of the original trailer), piloting the balloon plane. But it's extremely subtle for what's billing itself as a Rescue Rangers movie. Tons of Chip, tons of Dale, tons of Chip and Dale, almost complete absence of Gadget, Monty and Zipper. If you're trying to tap into the nostalgic Rescue Rangers fandom and stuffing 3/5ths of the team so far into the background that you have to freeze-frame to see any of them, the clue is something weird is going on with the film.
Disney made a CGI short film that looked like somewhat convincing 2D animation... 10 years ago. It's called Paperman. Why couldn't they use _that_ for this film.
What's the point of having "CGI surgery" as a bit when one can clearly see the "2D animated" characters(especially the elf dude) are 3D models? Unless this is some kind of plot point, which I don't think it is.
I feel like if they realized what made Roger rabbit great and applied it to this it could be really good (and actually made chip n Dale 2d instead of cell-shaded 3d)
But there it looks really cool. Or at least in one of the other Guilty Gear games? I just know Guilty Gear and that Dragon Ball fighting game nailed their artstyles in 3d
There’s something so weird about the “dead eyes” joke. It just doesn’t make sense, if they’re dead eyes, wouldn’t they be in one spot for the entire movie? But they’re going all over the place, he’s literally looking at Pumbaa in the eyes in the “dead eye HEUHEUHUHUH” joke
that's not what dead eyes means, it's about the eyes not being able to express emotion. for example compare the eyes of a dog to the eyes of a great white shark, with a dog you can see there is some king of emotion there, while with the shark, you can't, hence the term dead eyes.
@@fearofowl5973 I'd say Terry Crews is the other half of what makes it appealing. But every character is so one-note, and the main character is one of the least interesting. The whole "lovable manchild" trope is so dated.
Hate that use of NPC because it’s used so much by actual neo-Nazis (and just dumb edgelords with boners for their facist TH-cam daddy-figures) to dehumanize anyone they disagree with… but I’m tempted to make an exception here 🫠
I hate how the trailer makes it seem like this is just more 2D animation hatred by Disney. Like how Dale being in cgi is considered “the modern look,” like it’s a upgrade or status symbol. Plus how it’s annoying how dirty they do the 2D characters as cell shaded video game characters. This really irks me since flounder, and luminare get their actual drawn looks but characters like chip and Peter pan get this horrible look. Like why is it so inconsistent with the style? It feels so lazy. The Shawn of the sheep, anime girl, Beowulf guy, Gumby detective, are all nice since they look like their style and I can understand the point is for animated characters to keep their style irl, but then we see the Cars car and other characters just plainly not in their style. They should’ve just went all out with it being multimedia, kind of like Gumball, but it just seems like they half assed it. I’m this annoyed and it’s just from looking at it.
anything that could be said about this movie and the studio, people have blown the load on everything preceding this; Disney doesn’t listen, does not care
Why can't they just make a "Chip and Dale" animated movie? You know... just with a good adventure story. For the whole family or for kids. Why does it have to be this uncanny-valley-franchise-mashup-self-referencial nightmare?
I hate that Disney did this. I really felt like a 2D Chip & Dale rescue rangers reboot series on Disney Channel would have been a perfect followup right as DuckTales 2017 came to an end.
Fun fact: there is a plot leak that was posted on 4chan back in February. If you read it and rewatch this trailer. You can start to see that the leak is most likely going to be true. Folks were suggesting that a disgruntled employee shared it. Adam, if the leak is real. This movie is going to be an absolute trainwreck.
Thank god someone else sees it. I thought I was going insane with all the positive feedback. Coming from someone who loves creepy animation, this shit literally hits the uncanny valley so hard in my brain that I feel nauseous. Worse still, if you know anything about the life and career of the voice actor for OG Peter Pan, you'll know how disgusting it is that he's portrayed this way.
The movie came out. It was very bad.
Not what I heard
L + the movie was awesome
Wdym the movie was great
@@BasedLegoMaul I'm not a dude. And I don't hate everything. I'm allowed to not like a movie if I find it annoying.
@@BasedLegoMaul Do you mean me or Adam? Because Adam recommends good films frequently. Watch his best movies of each year list.
The worst part is that disney has such a massive hate-boner for 2d animation that they couldn't even make the "2D" characters look 2D . Its just cell-shaded CGI
That, and they’d rather save a buck rather than make the movie more interesting.
There IS real 2D animation, it’s just mostly reserved for random background characters that have exactly 5 seconds of screen time…. for some reason!
They move so damn busted it’s wild.
Disney has made recent short films that blend traditional and computer animation way better than this, like Paperman for example. Why they couldn't just use it in this film I have no idea.
Definitley because it's way easier and cheaper
Who Framed Roger Rabbit is over 30 years old and looks so much better. It really proves that all the technological innovations don't mean anything if you just don't care.
Disney's Alice shorts from 100 years mixed animation with live action and they look better than this.
True, Richard Williams was very passionate in his career in animation and it shows in everything he ever worked on.
@@GarredHATES Someone on Adum's Space Jam 2 said sth: Space Jam 1 was animated by 2d animation veterans, while 2 was animated by a bunch of fresh people who didn't study hand drawned animation anymore.
When something was made with love, it usually shows.
There’s so many people who like this trailer but because Adam doesn’t like it you all have to ride his nuts and agree with his horrible takes.
The Pumbaa scene feels like it exists solely to give Adam material for the second part of his Lion King review
At this point, I feel like that joke was made just to specifically spite Adum. Knowing all the pain Lion King 2019 has put him through.
When I watched the trailer and saw Pumbaa, I was like “Oh, Adams not gonna like this.”
That was the only funny part
I feel like it shows what Disney’s priorities are that they went with that… thing
Everyone’s already mentioned how Rodger Rabbit has already outdone this movie in 1988, but I think it’s also important to note that Epic Mickey did the “corrupted nostalgia” concept better as well. IMO it’s a much healthier dose of meta for lighthearted cartoon characters acting like themselves but in a darker wasteland setting, rather than cynical versions of cartoon characters populating a cynical modern world.
I only wish we could've gotten the darker, more ambitious version of Epic Mickey that existed in concept art and the pages of Game Informer
Epic Mickey is PAINFULLY slept on. It's a great take on the darker shiz that Disney has done and let happen to its characters, and it shows people that SURPRISE MICKEY ISN'T PERFECT which is why I like his character SO much in Kingdom Hearts-bring THAT Mickey to the ACTUAL Mickey Mouse dammit.
@@LordLucario12 To be fair, the darker concept art wasn't intended to be actually used, it was only for Warren Spector to see how far he could take the idea before executives told him it was too much.
That sounds great- thanks!
Bruh, Epic Mickey *slapped*. The sequel did away with a LOT of the grime, which made it less of a satisfying experience, but the first one was HEAT straight through
The fact that they added 2019 Pumbaa into this movie feels like a joke. A joke that was purposely made just to fuck with Adum.
Plus the "weird dead eyes" line carries so much irony it's laughable in a different way.
Isn't that the entire point of the joke? Like, the only punchline of that joke is that the "dead eyes" jab was thrown at the new lion king movie so much?
I hate it when people are pedantic about irony, but is it ironic at all when that's the intended take away?
@@Chance57 Yeah i don't understand how people are so dense to it. The dead eyed Lion King character makes a joke about the Zemeckis character having dead eyes. Pretty cut and dry set up and punchline.
@@Chance57 I think adum has what we all have inside us, that inner fanboy that gets very...uptight about certain fandoms. I have it, you have it, we all have it.
@@MrBman9001 Maybe, but I think the only intended joke is that both characters are voiced by Seth Rogen and there was no actual intention to poke fun at Disney's own property
DUDE PUMBA IS HERE THAT'S SICK DUDE
This is the type of satire that Shrek was doing back in 2001 to make fun of Disney, and now they're doing it to themselves unironically
What they don't get is that if you remove the satire from Shrek, there is still a story with genuine heart in it. They're trying to be all "It's okay, look! See, we can take it!" but they forgot the soul, so it's only cynicism.
Shrek was honestly a lot better than this. It's tone and pacing was way better established. Looking at this trailer it just looks like they read off a list of IP's they could use and forced them together without thinking about anything other than how they can make jokes at there expense. The animation looks like they just picked up a bunch of assets they already made for other films and slapped them together cheaply over some generic live action footage.
Yeah thats called a joke
@@WinstonPoptart can you not read?
@@JimmyBoy9878 yeah?
I wish positions for voice actors were actually filled with talented voice actors instead of brand name celebrities that can't voice act but bring in higher revenue and marketing.
Do they though? I don’t give a fuck that Chris Pratt is voicing X and Y. I’m not looking at him act on camera, i want his voice to fit the character which, 99.99999999% of the time, it doesn’t
@@adsweaty thing is I think that some actors do have a knack for voice acting. Chris Pratt was pretty good in the Lego movie but that’s like lightning in a bottle. That almost never happens otherwise.
I think a lot of people don't realize the differences between voice acting and acting. Not to mention voice actors are already underappreciated.
@@AnimatedTerror Chris Pratt was good in the Lego movie because the character was designed for Chris. It was a brand new character voiced by Chris Pratt that was basically the main character from guardians of the galaxy. Is Chris Pratt Mario? No, thats charles martinet
Is Chris Pratt Garfield? Fuck no
Is Chris Pratt talented? Yes he is, but let’s save the voice acting for the voice actors shall we?
@@AnimatedTerror case in point: Mark Hamill
I like the concept of this being mixed-media, but it's not exactly easy-on-the-eyes like Amazing World of Gumball
Even Smiling Friends looked visually better than this.
Amazing World of Gumballs wasnt easy on the eyes but it at least had unique animation.
from my knowledge the amazing world of gum ball uses 3-D rendered sets, they look real but it’s all models they can control this allows them to see the grid it’s made from and place the characters in it properly, actually using footage makes it harder to pin down exact angles and proper placements for the characters
@@cdubsb3831 compared to this it's Picasso
@@suetyhercules7717 for sure
If this is where the movie industry is headed, county out!
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@@AttemptedVoices Hollywood, you CAN'T escape YOUR destiny.
They hate 2D animation so much that not only is the “2D” just cell shaded 3D animation, but the “2D” chipmunk is behind the times and still uses old technology! Surely such a self-congratulating piece of media will do great with an audience that is so burned out on this shit 😂
I mean even now the 2d department was separated for roughly 5 years. I doubt theyd want to reunite it for this cash grab..
@@soulslvr9562 Yeah, that's kinda the problem. Maybe they shouldn't have gotten rid of their 2D department in the first place.
The 2021 Tom & Jerry movie had better stylized 3D models that at least somewhat captured the style of 2D, and that movie was still terrible. This is just embarrassing.
Tom and Jerry's animation was pretty flat. No color contrasting against the backgrounds and NO use of lighting and shadows.
The weird thing is that they still use 2d for their tv shows/cartoons on the Disney Channel, like Amphibia and The Owl House. And they seem to do just fine...
Trying to make a deconstructive comedy filled with self-digs doesn't work when the company making it is completely in love with themselves. Pumbaa making that joke proves it, they really think that the animation of Lion King 2019 is expressive in comparison to early mo-cap like Beowulf, and they are seriously trying to pat themselves on the back for how great their animation is.
It's odd that this film is making fun of Zemeckis' mo-cap animated films, but Disney actually distributed two of them themselves. A Christmas Carol and Mars Needs Moms to be exact. Hell, they were going to make a Yellow Submarine remake in that style, but it was canceled after Mars Needs Moms bombed.
This is my biggest issue too. Disney is now incapable of being the butt of a joke for even a second cause they think it’s gonna destroy their brand. The movie could actually be a fun time if this was more like Enchanted and actually made fun of themselves.
I'm pretty sure Pumbaa calling Beowulf dead and inexpressive is even do he isn't any better is supposed to be the joke.
@@konkeydong7194 maybe? But the fact that live action Seth doesn’t say anything back and it’s just Seth Rogan Pumbaa laughing at him makes me think not.
I’m pretty sure that was supposed to be ironic
The “non-CGI” gopher is actually CGI, just cel-shaded with an outline effect 💀
Which makes the "CGI surgery" joke fall flat on its face. That joke could have worked if Chip was in 2D.
And it looks so bad! Is it just easier to CG everything? Compare this to the crazy shit they did in Roger Rabbit years ago, it's disgraceful.
It's such a cop-out. The main conceit of the joke is absolutely dead in the water. Oh you cell shaded him and cranked down the FPS a little bit? He's still CGI! We can see hand-drawn 2D characters in the background of other shots ffs.
@@joinsideke apparently Disney is so against 2d to do it for any lengthy period of time because 2d animation is more unionized than 3d
@@joinsideke I suspect it might also have something to do with planning? I feel like these days, things are constantly expected to change last minute but with old animation a lot more stuff has to be set in stone and meticulously planned out. It's easier to go in and change little things with cgi than with hand drawn stuff. On top of no planning, you can try shit more and see what sticks, mix and match.
But these new work pipelines might not be conducive to creating a good story or creative animation.
But the union thing is still probably the biggest reason
It seems kinda... shitty/insensitive to have Peter Pan be played in the way they are when the voice actor from the Disney Peter Pan died thanks to alcohol and drug abuse. Having it be Bojack Horseman seems... not great.
Disney just wants that money bro
That is messed up. Really goes to show the amount of effort that went into this, they literally just threw it into a blender and poured out the sludge. Edit: effort in the writing. I have no doubt that there was work by the film crew and animators. also I'm sure there are some good scripts of this movie that were shot down by producers too
@@suetyhercules7717 to be fair, I'm sure they thought they were being clever by having the boy who never grows up grow up and have very adult oriented struggles, especially as the secondary villain in their corrupted nostalgia storyline, and just no one thought to check and see what happened to the actor that voiced Peter Pan or something. But, damn, ya couldn't have had it be like Christopher Robin or some shit??
@@MacabreMole boo hoo snowflake ❄️
@@MacabreMole lmao, tbh I would have hated this less if it was Christopher Robin. Thing is, it would have actually made sense, didn't the kid the books were written after hate Winnie the Pooh?
Oh wow, look how _meta_ the movie is being. Look at all those _ironic_ jokes. I'm so glad this *movie* has all of that and not an actual story to follow. That would be boring.
"Guys the movie knows it's terrible. That means it's actually good."
Haha look it’s the fish that was in The Little Mermaid haha I remember that
Thats not irony, thats called a joke :/
What jokes were ironic?
You people made fun of them for being sincere and making good movies.
This is the hell you made, now live in it.
Pumbaa’s recasting is one of the most egregious imo, despite Ernie and Seth’s voices sharing superficial similarities. Timon and Pumbaa were tailor-made for Nathan Lane and Ernie Sabella, with Ernie returning to voice Pumbaa in nearly every single one of his on-screen appearances for decades. Pumbaa is not a Seth Rogen character, that laugh is not a Pumbaa laugh. It’s literally just funny man Seth Rogen as a dead-eyed warthog model.
I mean, I don't think it's a surprise considering Genie pretty much was Robin Williams in animated form. Yet they still felt it necessary to remake Aladdin, despite no soul on earth being able to measure up to Robin William's Genie.
It's just Disney blatantly banking on Nostalgia Bait and remaking shit for the money because they know they have an audience who would probably buy a turd on a plate if it had the Micky mouse brand on it.
#thatsnotmypumba
No wonder it sounded off. Thanks internet stranger!
I wish this movie wasn't like the comedy and visual equivalent to the PS2 Family Guy game. There are a lot of little references in the background that show some level of care, and a giant evil corporation like Disney showing any willingness at all to laugh at their own properties and make *sliiiiightly* edgy jokes is somewhat refreshing in a way, but if this is what they're showing off to generate hype, it's clearly not very well-made at all.
Also, thanks for mentioning the Gadget cult. People must know.
I can’t believe they would diss Peter Pan like this. Also, why the fuck would he age? I thought one of the unwritten, universally agreed upon rules of Cartoons and toon logic was that they are basically immortal and couldn’t age? With that logic, shouldn’t have Chip & Dale and all other toons that have made appearances in this movie been aged up too?
Also yes, I know the joke is “ha ha Peter Pan is this icon of childhood purity and he’s old now!” And I get, it’s not funny, but I get it.
Saying exactly what I was thinking
I thought he could age if he left Neverland?
it's not Peter Pan basically
i think that's the point, the whole idea of peter pan is that he doesn't age so i assume that will either be relevant to the plot or at least be the butt of a few jokes.
Remember Hook and it's prequel Pan. He was able to age in that, but it wasn't Disney
6:06 Whoever gave Dale the CGI surgery should be charged with medical malpractice.
Whoever gave Chip the cell-shaded surgery should also be charged with medical malpractice.
Also, maybe drawing attention to animation styles could make people notice how bad it is compared to the original. I hope it does. I want this to blow up in Disney's faces.
Just another “we are self aware look at all these epic references!” movie. I have no idea why anyone especially “animation fans” are excited for this
It looks fun and stupid 🤷🏾♂️
/watch?v=D7pKjTfrETI
because it looks fun? shocking i know.
@@trey5973 stupid? yes.
fun? people need to stop associating mediocre half-assed comedy and stories that numb you for an hour and a half with fun
I’m more curious about it I’m not expecting anything amazing, excited about it or not some people need to calm down.
Is no one going to mention how they did Peter Pan on horrendous taste considering Bobby Driscoll(Peter Pan’s voice actor) and his sad life after Peter Pan????
The defenders will insist that it's not supposed to be Peter Pan, but a new character dressed as Peter Pan. If you turn the captions on his name comes up.
Edit: turns out it is supposed to be Peter Pan.
@Dex Stewart Funny how if it weren’t for the captions you’d never guess that
Peter in this trailer looks like he finally touched them
Well the movie is already pissing on the work by a defunct studio by mocking the uncanny valley art style so I'm not surprised how oddly mean spirited the film is.
@@dexstewart862 it gets worse its Pluto
I am fairly convinced that the polar bear that pops up a couple times in the trailer is just supposed to be the Coca-Cola polar bear .
LEGALLY DISTINCT NON-SPECIFIC COLA POLAR BEAR
Thought it was the track suit wearing polar bear from Zootopia
@@HectorLopez0217 “you’re DEAAAD, bunny bumpkins!”
I can't believe it's 2022 and Who Framed Roger Rabbit is still the peak of 2D animation in live-action settings. How do they keep fucking this up!?
Because good movies take talent and effort. Something Disney refuses to spend money on.
@@wdf70 More like effort and LOVE.
@@klg9549 you can put as much love into something and it’s still shit or looks like shit. Think of The Room. It’s not meant to be a parody, Wiseau was completely serious about it and wanted to make it his magnum opus. He’s now self aware enough to know it was terrible and people love it because it’s so terrible but it doesn’t mean it’s “good”. There has to be talent in something, love, and effort.
@@absolutelydegenerate1900 yeah, but if the room was intentionally terrible, it wouldn’t have the charm it does, and people love it.
I'm so mad, 2d animation and live action can be used to make something so cool...it's not fair
The weird thing is that Chip (or Dale? I don't care) is being done in a cell-shaded CGI style, but there's also characters that are being hand drawn. Cheap anime does this, the background characters that will be in one scene for the whole show get hand drawn, because it isn't worth the expense of modeling and rigging a whole CGI character for the one shot, but then it's not in the budget to hand draw the main characters for the whole show, so they go with this crap 9-12 fps cell shaded CGI style because it "looks hand drawn" and instead it just looks like you're bean-counting cretins.
Disney actually has the money to do this right, and they aren't because they know this movie is shovelware garbage that Didney fans will pay for regardless.
usually they use CGI in anime for background characters cuz it's cheaper?
@@Princeomishore Yeah most anime does this in reverse, especially since CG is generally unpopular in Japan.
@@CloneLoli I wouldn't say it's unpopular all together, they use it quite a lot in live action shows, just not often in anime (or at least as a replacement to traditional animation)
The irony being that some anime can actually make it work with animal characters -like Beastars.
@@kamenraider1175 CGI in Kamen Rider is so fun lol
Disney made a billion dollars off the 2019 soulless Lion King film & now can make fun of it? Piss off.
Exactly THAT'S OUR F*CKIN JOB!
it pisses me off that they can get away with making any trash and profit from it simply because they’re disney. they’ve grown so big that they will always be successful no matter what and don’t even have to try anymore…
I was going to say this movie looked like what would happen if the people that made Roger Rabbit didnt care, but then I remembered Space Jam exist. So, then I guess this is more like if the people that made Space Jam didnt care, but Space Jam 2 also exist. So I guess this movie is like if the people that made Space Jam 2 didnt care, and thats just depressing to think about.
Aggressive apathy
I hadn’t thought about it like that but you’re right - this has less effort in it than Space Jam 2 and that movie already had plenty of effects that looked amateurish. If I was the Disney CEO I’d shut this thing down because it’s going to cost more in brand reputation than it will gross in the theatres.
If that's the case I'd hate to know where Cool World fits into this
@@quaglegagle674 I, like most people, completely forgot that Cool World even existed. It is Ralph Bakshi, but there was also a lot of studio intereferance. Id put it far below Roger Rabbit, but only just above the first Space Jam on the "how much did they care about this animated/live-action hybrid movie" scale.
@@quaglegagle674 Cool World would be lower on the list than Roger Rabbit for obvious reasons. But I feel like it probably shouldn't be last place because at least there were some innovative artistic ideas that they tried with it. Unlike Space Jam 2 and this Chip N Dale film which look like lifeless corporate projects
The quircky thing in Who framed Roger Rabbit is that despite the context of that movie being cartoon characters existing in real life and cartoons is just them "acting", they have similar personalities irl and bring their quirckyiness in the "real" world. The dark and moody setting of WFRR was complemented by cartoons being themselves (from Roger Rabbit being annoying and loud to Jessica Rabbit being all sensual and sultry).
These trailers give zero of that. Each character from other disney IPs seems to be in-on-the-joke, self aware and NOT like they are in their movies.
On a side note, why the hell does the fish from the little mermaid live in an apartment?
Because the housing market is awful right now?
because beachfront property is ludicrously expensive in L.A. *wink*
the baby was different when not acting but he's like, one character, so your point still stands
There was also the fact that despite the animated characters blend well in live action scenes due to good edits and effects. The toons are intentionally made to look out of place, like they're treated as minorities. This makes the scene where Eddie goes to their world to catch Doom all the more reflecting. Since now HE'S the one that looks out of place.
Conspiracy theory: This was supposed to be the sequel to Who Framed Roger Rabbit before Disney grew a braincell and realized they didn't want to sully it's legacy and so they slapped it on to Chip n Dale and expected no one to notice or care.
edit: watched it; Roger, I'm so sorry that everyone is comparing you to this shitty fucking movie oh dear God.
They still did by proxy of putting him in as a cameo
That is an interesting theory cause Robert Zemeckis has been trying to get a Roger Rabbit sequel off the ground for decades, just a few years ago he said he had the script ready for shooting but that Disney didn't want to make it due to Jessica ruining their image or something. So I would not be surprised if this is meant to fill that hole.
Well...Amblin/Speilberg have co-ownership of Roger Rabbit so anything with Roger in it needs Amblin's approval. Rescue Rangers is their's lock stock and barrel.
Disney care about "sullying" art? Lol
Maybe at a very early stage of production, but the tone of this is incredibly different and I'm not sure Disney would want to take the risk when they don't know if people would pay to see another Roger Rabbit. If anything I'd say this was the studios testing the waters to see if there's sufficient audience interest to do more stuff like it.
So the voices they did at around 1:20 wasn't making fun of Alvin and The Chipmunks. That is how Chip and Dale voices are in the original cartoons.
I know! And it's so sad because those voices are what people wanted in a movie like this
"Yes, we get the youth's sense of humor 😎".....the producers/writers of this film
Disney Presents:
*How Do You Do, Fellow Kids?*
I really don't like The CG masquerading as 2D thing. They cell shaded something and dropped the frame rate and it's supposed to be 2D? Why not just commit to the bit? He didn't have the CGI surgery and he's actually traditionally hand drawn 2D. Of course that's rhetorical, we know profits and laziness are why, but it'd be nice if they said it out loud.
Its certainly gotten better, but its executives thinking 2D isn't as profitable and it takes time they don't want to spend. It sounds like things might be changing very soon, but given the current leadership at Disney not holding my breath
Well was the bad frame rate done on purpose or was it because Disney was cheap? Because 2D animation shouldn't look like it's running at 10 Frames per second.
@@samzilla567 I only noticed it with the "2D" character so I highly doubt it's anything other than intentional. We can be cynical without being myopic. If all the characters are CGI, even the "2D" one, we have to assume that the strobing is done on purpose to show the 24FPS off In a way that pre-rendered CGI characters currently do not. Thei motion blur is rendered and traditional Disney animation didn't have many smear frames between key frames. If you want both on the screen at once, the only way you'd be able to do that is if you turned down the FPS on the render. It looks like they did do exactly that.
I'd wager it's intentional but look awful because they're lazy, not because they didn't understand.
This film is trying to do a Gumball situation with the mixed animation and that's fine but at the least freaking Gumball, on a tv budget, had actual 2D animation
Considering that people liked Into the Spider Verse for managing to blend 2D looks with a 3D environment (Peni and Spider Ham are stylized in a way to look 2D) I think Disney is doing the technique for Chip and others to cash in on that Spider Verse craze but ironically other studios are ending perfecting it _better_ than they can.
Interesting. If you listen closely after Adum says "Who's Gadget?", you can hear a group of Russian men start to march towards Canada.
When you cleared your throat after saying Seth Rogan character, I legitimately thought for a spilt second you were doing the laugh.
The way they very clearly just made a shifty cel shaded model instead of bothering to animate the 2d chipmunk actually frustrates me primally.
And yet it still somehow manages to look more visually appealing than the "real CG" character. How did they manage to screw it up so bad?
How in the hell did Disney, freaking DISNEY let a major motion picture of theirs have such *awful* animation. I'm almost impressed!
Probably doesn't help that Chip ISN'T in 2d. They just did it with cell-shaded CGI.
Hollywood hates 2d animation and to a greater extent, us.
They couldn’t even bother with ‘actual’ 2D animation for the Chip and Dale, it instead use that crappy cel shaded CGI like they used for the recent Tom and Jerry movie. This reminds me of when they Disney brought back aging 2D animators for Mary Poppins returns because they stopped focusing on training young blood for 2D animation because the Disney company gave up. It’s legitimately disheartening how much they don’t care about 2D animation when that was their main thing ever since it’s inception. They treat CGI like an evolution of 2D rather than it’s own separate medium, which it totally is. CG animation is not an advancement of hand drawn animation, but it’s own separate medium that has its own rules.
it blows my mind that Guilty Gear has better 2.5D animation than DISNEY
Even back with Xrd
I have seen a Newgrounds user (not going to say his name) with no budget make 3D cell animation better than what Disney is making and the guy makes art and animation for fun.
Arcsys fighting games puts a lot of modern animation to shame
@@smileychips7448 I mean until they gotta animate a "storymode"...
Ya know what. They were right. First thing that pops into my head, male strippers, then rescue rangers. They got me
I mean I didn't expected they will use the joke, but it's right.
13:10 the cult is mostly just a very vocal fanbase as rescue rangers was pretty huge in the soviet union due to being one the rare disney cartoons there and having a more attractive female design.
Shes like lola bunny in the american world.
~~fun fact this reboot is somehow not available in russia because russia wont be getting new disney+ movies~~
what do you mean "somehow"?
@@ranglix1 because its a huge missed market, a country who can take advantage of the nostalgia bait.I would dare to say its their biggest lost market.
@Martian Productions well i guess is against the politics,but are the kids watching movies really responsible for a big bad man doing bs?
This feels like it was supposed to be a live-action reboot of Bonkers (a cartoon which, itself, was a "different enough to avoid legal action" ripoff of Roger Rabbit), a show which ran on the Disney Channel along with Chip & Dale. I remember there was a plotline where Mickey Mouse got kidnapped, and one where a villain with a "make-people-sad" gun got Goofy and he started crying. (Both characters were never actually shown on screen, mind you, but they were referenced and voice acted).
I wonder if this is a mad-scientist's amalgamation of two different pitches?
I remember that in the 'kidnapped iconic cartoons' episode they had Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny impressions coming out of cages in the villain's hideout, and we never quite get a look into the shadowy cages to confirm it, but I always liked that.
Reminds me of how Marvel and DC used to snipe at each other way back in the day, including each other's characters without naming them... Occasionally actually naming them, I vaguely remember a pair of reporters named Clark and Lois showing up at the Daily Bugle once in Spider-Man...
I used to love fourth wall breaking meta stuff. It seemed so cool to me… done sparingly.
Then the concept just went out of control and then companies realized they could use it to pander and it all fell apart with ready player one. When they found out you could just flash popular ips in peoples faces for an hour and people would buy into that.
At least roger rabbit mostly used characters that had been around for ages already and set itself In the past thusly avoiding being seen as dated.
This’ll hasn’t even come out and has already dated itself.
Roger rabbit came out in 1988 and it looks a million times better than this 2022 film.
Most movies from the 20th century wouldn’t even piss on modern movies.
Like foreal,, the amination here doesn't look bad, but the way it's integrated and looks is inferior.
they should have stuck to the 90’s style for the animated characters in this movie
Same goes to space jam one and looney tunes back in action.
And the CG teaser they did for the cancelled sequel in 1998 looked better than all of the CG in this movie.
Bigtop burger, an indie youtube animated series, looks more convincingly like 2D than this Disney film
Adum can't escape the wrath of Jon Favreau's Lion King.
The biggest issue with this for me is that it could actually be a fun made for streaming movie despite some of the middling animation if they actually were able to make fun of Disney at all but they definitely won’t. They’ll roast everything but themselves in this and it’s gonna come be super obvious and annoying. Some elements look cool but overall just very meh 5/10 fair.
That's a really fucking weird metric to judge it by
@@HerohammerStudios I don’t think it is at all. The movie is going to come off as very unselfaware and mean if it just shits on other animated stuff and they never makes fun of themselves.
Yeah, Disney is so painfully in love with itself. I still remember the princesses scene and the Oh My Disney scene from Wreck-It Ralph 2 and this movie has those exact same tones of "commercial disguised as satire".
@@yeeyeeyeeye yeah and Disney wasn’t always like that. I remembered enchanted was a solid movie that made a lot of jokes about the tropes and cliches in classic Disney movies, which is why people like it. But now I bet they are scared to make jokes like that cause they are turning out a lot of genuine garbage. If they were still making great stuff I’m sure they’d be confident enough to make fun of themselves.
@@makeitthrough_ bro anything with even knockoff claymation is at least somewhat interesting to me. Also live action car from the movie cars.
Someone on 4chan leaked the entire story of the film a few weeks ago and this trailer has very specific elements that confirm it. Basically this movie steals the plot of the live action Scooby Doo where Scrappy is the villain. Here, Pluto is the bad guy who uses plastic surgery to disguise himself and ends up a chimera monster of different toons.
That actually sounds kinda cool, A chimera of characters that we forgot about trying to stay relevant, all fuse together and end up driving people away.
the cell shading is ATTROCIOUS! It reminds me of a Telltale game without the intrigue or general stylization of a Telltale game and it MAKES MY EYES WANT TO VOMIT.
After watching the lion king 2019 review it killed me that the Seth rogan pumba is in this. I could only imagine what Adam’s initial thoughts in his head were
Adum should do a watch along stream for this once it comes out!
Mostly because that is the only way I'd be able to sit through this movie
*Disney* is so self-effacing, that what was once _its actual face_ is now a bloody pulp from all the years of beating itself up.
This is truly what *irreverent self-destruction* looks like and _I can't look away._
the art style of the cell-shaded characters look like the in-engine cutscenes from The Simpsons Game
TLK 2019 Pumbaa: (APPEARS)
Adam: *VIETNAM FLASHBACKS*
Seriously, I actually screamed "FUCK YOU" when his cameo popped up. How is it that that version of Pumbaa shows up, but Lumiere is the same from the original Beauty and the Beast film?
This would be a great Adum and Pals episode/ watch along. Make a drinking game too with film cliché predictions would be fun
I'm still really confused who this movie is for. This has been in development for over 5 years now, especially since it was announced around the same time as that Tom and Jerry movie that came out on HBO max, and was supposed to compete with the Alvin and the Chipmunk movies. After all that time, and it looking like this, I get the feeling that execs are finally starting to get 2d can have more appeal cgi is lacking, but would rather force it kicking and screaming into CG to save cost
Pretty funny since Disney now owns the Alvin & The Chipmunks movies
@@IcyDiamond I completely forgot about that.
that pumba joke is so surreal to think about. this is supposedly a kids movie but every other joke relies on you knowing seth voiced both characters and also the early mocap animation and its problems. just reminds me of how they're making that movie about a kid trying to go see a disney broadway musical. it's just the snake devouring itself. it's the same shit as the space jam sequel, these 'childrens' movies with the humor designed exclusively for in-the-know studio executives makes me want to vomit.
I wouldn’t call it a kids movie
I mean it’s appropriate for kids but I wouldn’t say that’s their main demographic
Please, don't ever use the term "kids movie", it's awful
and the fact that they used the original flounder in 2d but also are erasing the original lion king movie by doubling down on forcing a god forsaken Seth Rogan pumba onto us
@@nostalgiatrip7331 it’s a five second joke
@@SR.PlayAlot64 what??
Peter Pan as a bitter adult-
*insert laughs here*
*insert FFX forced laugh scene here*
Feels like a goddamn family guy joke...ugh
Someone said that this like Disney dabbling in early Adult Swim humor from Cartoon Network in the mid to late 90’s.
I've heard it's more like a sequel to Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which is an insult to that movie.
It looks like it wants to be Roger Rabbit mixed with Shrek, as far as how they're trying Disney jokes
@@briankaslewicz6130 Wouldn't be the first time Disney tries to capitalize Shrek's success.
Chicken Little, anyone?
"I didn't realize that was a Peter Pan outfit..."
You shook me to my core YMS, HOW??
Disney really can't stop saying again and again that 3D is an "upgrade" "modern" to 2D Animation... STOP IT!!!
Let's all admit that this movie is just Disney's excuse to either reuse older assets / use assets that got left on the cutting room floor because I can really see no other reason for this existing.
Wait didn't Wreck-It-Ralph 2 already do the _"Disney Ready Player One"_ thing?
The funny thing is, they sort of did a similar concept with Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which executed this attempt at a style far better than this probably will.
Yes
Roger Rabbit was done with real passion and attention to detail to the concept. A lot of the effects were done practically and then animated over.
Like the scene where Roger hides in the sink. They had a machine to splash the water then animated the Weasel over the top. Just looking up clips, they paid attention to the lighting, with a rocking light constantly changing the shadows over Roger in the handcuff cutting scene.
That was one of my favourite films as a child and I still love it to this day. It earned its three Oscars for effects and still looks good to this day. This Chip and Dale film will be forgotten by next year.
@@chrischandler4151 _Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Die Hard,_ and _Akira_ should’ve been Best Picture and Best Director nominees for 1988.
@@chrischandler4151 Also, the toons acted like themselves. Like off camera, they were the same, cause that's how they were drawn. These are the actors that played the characters in those animations.
@@chrischandler4151 "will be forgotten by next year"
More like the day after it comes out.
I like how he instantly talks about the cloaked furry in the background while 90% of us are laser focused on the anime girl in the front.
The bad guy is Pluto, Mickey's dog, there was a 4chan leak about the whole plot that came before the trailer and this new trailer basically confirms.
I can't really see Disney approving that, given he's one of the main mascots. Or do you mean just Pluto? (Mickey's dog.)
Wait where'd you find the leak? Id love to read it
What was in the leak that was confirmed in this trailer?
The same way no way home was "leaked" multiple times lol
@@bigbawlzlebowski8886 I had my doubts at first, but later on in the trailer it shows Chip has one of his ears switched with Pluto's, which was one of the things he mentioned.
It's honestly hilarious how 2D is considered kids movies stuff and yet 2D had the subtly, good themes and restraint from being as vulgar as possible seems that makes it more mature than this type of garbage. Even the 3D mixed with 2D is done so lazily. I remember watching Iron Giant a few weeks ago and it handled a lot of that stuff so well. The least I can say for something like this is that it makes for entertaining content to watch the Canadian horse man suffer so others can smile.
Noone - and I mean NOONE - wanted a meta "lolol, we were stars" movie.
We just want a 90 min/2 hours RR movie during which they have an adventure with a new and/or old villain.
Why the fuck are they pretending to do 2d animation just do 2d animation, this is the dollar store roger rabbit
Because this let them save 98 cents and most people will never care because they consume products for the purpose of bringing themselves one movie length closer to death.
Nobody going to this movie is going because they think it will bring value to their lives, they just can't imagine a better use of their time or they're 3 and have parents that can't imagine having standards for the media their kids consume.
@@zukiezuke Lmao at one movie length closer to death
I expect this shit from WB, but Disney come on
Disney just keeps giving me new exciting reasons to hate them.
I like that Disney spent money to get characters they don't own in this movie to make it more like Rogger Rabbit but they're all wasted on this crap. What a shame because Lego movie proved this premise can be great
You can see Gadget's ear and hair at the 6:30 mark (paused 1:30 of the original trailer), piloting the balloon plane. But it's extremely subtle for what's billing itself as a Rescue Rangers movie. Tons of Chip, tons of Dale, tons of Chip and Dale, almost complete absence of Gadget, Monty and Zipper. If you're trying to tap into the nostalgic Rescue Rangers fandom and stuffing 3/5ths of the team so far into the background that you have to freeze-frame to see any of them, the clue is something weird is going on with the film.
There was a leaker who revealed more of the plot, and it sounds ... well, awful.
What does Pumba do here? Lion King 2019 was live action, wasn't it?
The fact that he asks for Darkwing duck and then in the movie they reference the fact that people want Darkwing duck
Oh my fucking god, from the thumbnail alone that fat cell-shaded CGI Peter Pan made me want to commit Minecraft
Why does this movie exist
This plot is literally the same as the first episode of Bonkers. This is a Bonkers movie with Chip&Dale and Member-Berries awkwardly slotted in
Disney made a CGI short film that looked like somewhat convincing 2D animation... 10 years ago.
It's called Paperman.
Why couldn't they use _that_ for this film.
What's the point of having "CGI surgery" as a bit when one can clearly see the "2D animated" characters(especially the elf dude) are 3D models?
Unless this is some kind of plot point, which I don't think it is.
god the "2D" 3D animation looks exactly like those family guy games
I feel like if they realized what made Roger rabbit great and applied it to this it could be really good (and actually made chip n Dale 2d instead of cell-shaded 3d)
The only good thing about this type of '2D' animation is that I finally got to play Guilty Gear Strive thanks to it.
But there it looks really cool. Or at least in one of the other Guilty Gear games? I just know Guilty Gear and that Dragon Ball fighting game nailed their artstyles in 3d
This movie already looks like a runner-up for worst movie of 2022.
Snappy one-liners and non-sequitur pop culture references: The Movie #2378
I'm thinkin' the same thing.
For the Razzies, sure, but I doubt it would be the actual worst movie of 2022
Disney: oh man we're so meta and self-aware! You should buy our products lol!
Fuck. This is the first time when I almost get this "they´re ruining my childhood" attitude. Chip & Dale don´t deserve this.
There’s something so weird about the “dead eyes” joke. It just doesn’t make sense, if they’re dead eyes, wouldn’t they be in one spot for the entire movie? But they’re going all over the place, he’s literally looking at Pumbaa in the eyes in the “dead eye HEUHEUHUHUH” joke
that's not what dead eyes means, it's about the eyes not being able to express emotion. for example compare the eyes of a dog to the eyes of a great white shark, with a dog you can see there is some king of emotion there, while with the shark, you can't, hence the term dead eyes.
Andy Samberg is the definition of an NPC comedian
Andre Braugher is the only entertaining part of Brooklyn 99
@@fearofowl5973 I'd say Terry Crews is the other half of what makes it appealing. But every character is so one-note, and the main character is one of the least interesting. The whole "lovable manchild" trope is so dated.
Hate that use of NPC because it’s used so much by actual neo-Nazis (and just dumb edgelords with boners for their facist TH-cam daddy-figures) to dehumanize anyone they disagree with… but I’m tempted to make an exception here 🫠
I hate how the trailer makes it seem like this is just more 2D animation hatred by Disney. Like how Dale being in cgi is considered “the modern look,” like it’s a upgrade or status symbol. Plus how it’s annoying how dirty they do the 2D characters as cell shaded video game characters. This really irks me since flounder, and luminare get their actual drawn looks but characters like chip and Peter pan get this horrible look. Like why is it so inconsistent with the style? It feels so lazy. The Shawn of the sheep, anime girl, Beowulf guy, Gumby detective, are all nice since they look like their style and I can understand the point is for animated characters to keep their style irl, but then we see the Cars car and other characters just plainly not in their style. They should’ve just went all out with it being multimedia, kind of like Gumball, but it just seems like they half assed it. I’m this annoyed and it’s just from looking at it.
The CG surgery isnt actually that bad of a joke tbh
@@JD-jz5gu it’s fine as a joke sure, but it’s ruined for me by how Chip still is CG too, just cell shaded.
@@GuddyBuddy well yeah, both being cgi definitely ruins the joke.
The Cars car is kind of... Like the headlights are easily mistaken for eyes, I completely missed the windshield eyes.
anything that could be said about this movie and the studio, people have blown the load on everything preceding this; Disney doesn’t listen, does not care
Why can't they just make a "Chip and Dale" animated movie?
You know... just with a good adventure story. For the whole family or for kids.
Why does it have to be this uncanny-valley-franchise-mashup-self-referencial nightmare?
I hate that Disney did this. I really felt like a 2D Chip & Dale rescue rangers reboot series on Disney Channel would have been a perfect followup right as DuckTales 2017 came to an end.
Billion dollar company can’t even do 2d/live action hybrid animation and have to resort to cell shaded Fortnite skin tier styling
Maybe it's just cos I'm dead inside, but I feel nothing but contempt for this.
Every time I see trailers for this I'm fucking miserable.
“If Warner Bros. could do it with ‘Space Jam: A New Legacy,’ so can we-right?”
7:40 I felt Adum's soul leave his body here
Every frame of this movie throws so much random bullshit on screen that I don't even know where to focus!
It’s literally just “poor man’s Who Framed Roger Rabbit”.
Imagine holding out on a Roger Rabbit sequel for almost 40 years and this is the best Didne can queef out
So this is just "Foodfight" but with Disney characters, pretty much.
Fun fact: there is a plot leak that was posted on 4chan back in February. If you read it and rewatch this trailer. You can start to see that the leak is most likely going to be true. Folks were suggesting that a disgruntled employee shared it.
Adam, if the leak is real. This movie is going to be an absolute trainwreck.
Got a link to the leak? Can’t seem to find it browsing /co/.
Thank god someone else sees it. I thought I was going insane with all the positive feedback. Coming from someone who loves creepy animation, this shit literally hits the uncanny valley so hard in my brain that I feel nauseous. Worse still, if you know anything about the life and career of the voice actor for OG Peter Pan, you'll know how disgusting it is that he's portrayed this way.