One way to avoid blotchy and cloudiness
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I really appreciate your videos and your tenacity in going after solutions to problems. A lot of people blame the paint, their equipment, the booth, etc ... instead of asking themselves what they could do differently. Thank you again for what you do and God bless you.
+Dlambrt6257 thanks so much this means a lot to me!!!!
Gabe, you just can't say enough good things about your results. That's why I enjoy your videos. It's a pleasure watching and learning. Thanks for another great video. Take care.
+Steve Janka thanks so much man it means a lot! 😊😊😊😊😊
Quick tip for the dirt issue. Try back taping the wheel wells and applying the paper as smooth as possible to the exposed backtape. Cut with a blade around the wheel well. Now you have no gap between the car body and wheel for dirt to come out of.
+matt wist 👍 thanks my man!!!!!! 😊😊
i know this is an old video but heck there’s always something new to learn & what i use is tape to remove any dust particles after its been cleaned with wax & grease remover. i learned this trick from a painter were i used to work at a chevy body shop. i use geckotape to stick & remove it for the whole work surface & it doesn’t cause static. just make a circle with the sticky side out & use the palm of your hand. hope this helps now 3 years later lol
Great job beautiful finish, I love my tekna for only clearcoat, and I use my Sata and Super Nova Entech for base coat
you teach better than the others ive watch in youtube. keep it up
+patrick quimmel thanks a lot man!!!!!!!!
After a good blow with decent pressure and a couple tacks, an old Italian guy taught me to wash the vehicle with clean, warm water and a good dust free rag . Soak rag, then ring out so it's not dripping, but still good and wet. allow to dry and start spraying. I remembered to try this again recently on a complete black mustang. It came out very clean and I think it was from the old guys trick. Kills the static, Static guns are becoming more affordable and work very well on all surfaces.
Amazing !
Yes, you can wipe down last with a waterbased cleaner ( I make my own with water and iso alcohol) they charge $30-90 a gal for the same thing you can make for 25 cents! It kills the static, works great on raw plastic bumpers as last wipe. I do waterbased then wax and grease remover on most things. Then waterbase again on anything plastic or raw. Try that! Mix your own water cleaner!
Painting in 110+ degrees year around I always get a sandiness in my basecoat at the edge of the repair. After covering the primer I let it flash and then have to wet sand with 800 and then lay down my "finish" coat to get my metallics perfect. After that smash on the clear so you can see your reflection. Done.
+Luis De Leon wow that's a skill bro!!
Luis De Leon have you ever tried putting a " wet bed" down? in ppgs water I always put a wet bed of t490 reduced at 20 percent not only for metalilics to stick to but also to fill sand scrarch.
@@alyssiachambers6807I always finish with 800 blends, 600 primer, not really any sand scratches. I try not to wet bed if I don't have to, we get a lot of trash booth needs new seal. Have to sand the wetbed lol.
@Dave FlowersI like the reverse blending tip.....
Quality reducer is the best change I’ve made to control modeling.
Awesome work 👌🏼 as always Gabriel!
I use axalta chromabase and to combat motteling and sand-up edges is I mix 40% 175k to 60% 69301s basecoat blender to make a "wet bed" in the blend areas. I also use the absolutely slowest reducer I can get away with for the ambient temperature. It makes the drop coats and blends lay right down with out sand pile up. I will also increase the spray distance and lower my pressure so the basecoat wont dry in the air before it hits the panel. I get drop coats and blends down easier In the winter time when I can actually increase drop coat pressure as the substrate is colder in general.
Did that clear with the 1.4 tip or did you change it? I have the same gun ordered in the US and on my tip it says 13. Just wondering if they’re the same gun and I don’t know it but have a 1.4. Hope this made sense and happy painting!
Gabe, you need any decals or signs for Motivated Painters? for giveaways or something or to promote the channel? I recently started a mobile paint and body business using a van, inflatable booth. May start a channel here soon. 1 month in.
Dude mobile business, sounds pretty good would like to see some content. Good luck and keep it up man👏👏
I've found 2 medium wet coats and a third medium coat helps with the blotchiness. I back the gun off a bit on that third coat. Then double control coat it and clear. A wet bed also makes it easier to lay the metallics down right.
I used to have trouble with sand piling, until I started using blending clear before first coat of paint,and blending clear before every coat of base.Blending clear allows the dry spray to melt when it hits the sides.
Also known as the wet bed method.
Gabriel, first off congratulations on using triggering instead of flicking the gun. As well as not getting the overspray problem it also solves panel edge build up. As for the dirt problem I have found that after the cleaning and blow off redo the blow off with the gun as if you are painting the car. The gun drags shit out of places the blowing doesn't which is why it comes out in our paintwork, so if you tack while fake painting it finds that shit before hand. At 64 years old it's the best thing I ever found for clean work and wish I had found it earlier in my career 🤪
I Noticed you are basing right on top of the primer! No sealer is needed? I like this because this is how I sprayed my Solvent based Axalta. Didnt know you can do this with Water
Yup no sealer needed !🥰
nice video at what pressure are you spraying at ?
+pharraway 18 psi then 14-15 for control coat 😊
Nice Thanks
Great video. You can actually raise the vehicle. Will have to buy one of those gun (blue base coat ).
careful over reducing, some colors will completely change when over reduced.
My biggest struggle is convincing my boss that I need new booth filters lol
So true.. lol
Gabriel. Another informative video. Question, have you ever had a silver or gold look great, no mottling or cloudyness. Then you clear it, and it almost seems like the clear moves the metallics? Had this happen on wa636R last week.
Michael Bullock
Ive had that happen to me before...
Try letting the base flash off longer, and dont put the first coat of clear on so heavy...
These 2 things will ensure the metallics dont shift on you
+Michael Bullock sometimes that's due to to much clear so it distords the basecoat
Don’t hammer time your first coat 😜
I had that problem with modeling i always use a milky looking basemaker 5 star makes or sherwin williams has whats called a stabilizer.one stabilizer even has a hardner in it
Soon as it hits the panel
It sticks .i never had an issue with my silver or golds anymore .
Yep, when you don't let base flash long enough between coats or before clearcoating, or laying the clear too heavy.
Nice videos. I'm currently struggling with my silver Honda Accord.im getting zebra stripes even if my coats are perfect 50% overlap. Your videos are the reason my skill has got better.
+Ramiros in so glad thank you!! Just make sure it's reduced properly and your getting coverage it will help
Crisscross pattern
Also try using slower reducer
Probably you are using to much pressure, that's why looks like sebra your base..
Cover the rest of the car in plastic too. I know you use spray mask but you would be surprised how much dirt is still there that will end up in the air in the booth.
But doesn't the spray mask trap all that dirt down? Or you mean like all the dirt in the cracks that are exposed? At that point I wouldn't even use spray mask then. I mean he does have some of the cleanest jobs I've seen.
matt wist I almost lost in when I saw the whole car isn’t covered and he’s doing a whole side. Let’s talk about the overspray on that uncovered side. Oooof
The car has spray mask 🤙🏼
Gabriel Merino ohhhhh!!! My B I missed that lol
I found a gloved hand works better than a tack cloth,It also seems to get rid of static as well.
Hi. Do you do solvent based vids? And do you need to do anything to the clear coat after painting before it goes to customer? Enjoy your vids👍
Nothing with solvent unfortunately sorry! We denib 👍
Very helpfull.. thanks gabriel... I still gotta get my motivated painters blower and paint suit.. ✌
Awesome to hear that!
Gabriel my biggest concern is mottling or mottle and not getting a paint match mate 🤔
what works for me without having to light sand again, i used sealer before anything and then i use super slow reducer on ppg paint when i am doing a metallic with iwata psi 25. Then i put two light coats of DBC 500 mixed 1-1-1 with paint and reducer.
Put antistatic in a cup spray it on the car less chances dust will cling to the vehicle
We called it dry heaving in my shop good spray technique IMO
Gabriel Merino, do you think that, in the future, it will ever be possible to avoid blending the paint in the adjacent panels? Do you think that this is already possible using the Glasurit Ratio Scan 12/6?
Anything is possible but is very unlikely since all cars are different and sometimes what you see is the primer behind the transparent color
I have a question I got my door painted and top of the door handle looks super smooth and shiny.I could tell they removed a run.They refuse to paint saying it is acceptable.I called insurance company waiting for a response.Do you repaint when there is a run or sand?.
I thank you so much. I had this problem so many times
Hey really good video as always. Love the tips for the base...but do you think it would work on solvent based paints too. Like with the temp and the thinning down part. I sometimes get mottling in colours like these but not silvers. Lol.
+Ramcharran Khoon Khoon I would have to say try it and see haha since I don't spray solvent I wouldn't be able to tell you 100%
MOTIVATED PAINTERS I will. Thanks.
Air control and reducer that's it ,i never have a problem with waterborne , waterborne is pretty easy to spray
Great vids as always, I spray solvent based through an Iwata lph 400 , says 16-18 psi is preferable but that sprays sooo slowly and I notice you move quickly is that the difference between solvent and water based paint or no ?
I use same gun, you want 2.0 bar or around 29 psi for base, I bump it up to about 33-35 for clear. It is a slow moving gun compared to a Sata, which will sling some paint!
Good job gabe
i tried controlled coat in my metallic gray and it came out nice.. thanks sir, for the tip. is this will work also on colors like candy red and candy blue?
+patrick quimmel music to my ears! Thank you!!! Sometimes it does yeas but not all the time.
candy does not have a control coat. The silver or gold under it will. Candy is usually non metallic and goes over a metallic color. Three stage job like a pearl job but harder and more coats. I did a bike candy flame job that won World of Wheels car show.
Just a quick question you stated you need to spray this at 75 PSI or did you mean degrees as in Fahrenheit?
I misspoke 😂 yes
@@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS yes I thought that was a little high LOL
Gran trabajo amigo
I can never get a fflawless panel. I do everything possible
Hi it’s nice job
1-as for temperature booth for base coat is 75f
2-as for the t490 with reducer when I can use it and mix 50/50 ?????
3- A’s for the Clearcoat what’s temperature booth must be when I will start Clearcoat??????
Thanks for your learning
+Alane Atika yes 75f
I would add about 20% to whatever you have left after you have coverage but play around with it see what works for you.
Clearcoat also at 75 😊
Any temp above 50 if you have the right hardeners and reducers. But yeah 70-75 is ideal
La aplicación del color para la mano de control es la misma o agregas más solvente o (agua) si es pintura al agua para adelgazarla más y a que presión la aplicas???
A 18 y más separado
try painting from the top of the panel not the bottom shit falls downward, this means its wet under your arm as your painting more chance of getting shite in the paint hope this helps
Hi gabriel,im still having issue with mottling man! Ok what gun do you recommend for medium to heavy silver metallics,i think i need a new gun.or what gun would you use when you know you have a tricky metallic ?job ty gabriel
The reason why I have the walcom HTE base 1.3 on my website is because I truly think that it's one of the best if not the the best gun for base.
@@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS hi gabriel ty so much im gonna look into that gun,i did forget to mention that the gun im using is a sata 4000.it does gpod but as soon as i apply silver to dark silver, i get mottling. double control seem to help but gun still struggles .ty
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HI, you said you used 1.4 tip for clear. wouldn't 1.2 or 1.3 give less orange peel ? What are the advantages and disadvantages ? thank you
Julian Bacchus. 1.4 is nice with the iwata because it allows you to move so much faster also he's spraying at quite high psi which will break the droplets up so small it's a win win. Especially if you're painting in a dry or hot area 👌🏻
Akzo Nobel paints have so many weird issues and problems that you just don't see in other paint systems. They really really need to step up their game, there competition is wiping the floor with them. It's not the 70s anymore if you can get coverage in 1 coat your behind. It's never good if you have to do something more than once. Would you paint your entire house with multiple coats? Or do you buy the paint that covers in the first coat.... More than 1 coat eats up time money and product.
So you do the blend and control coat with the over reduced paint ?
+Cesar Gonzalez yes try it that way
gun must be un even holes are block or un even trigger pulling or you are just an idiot who doesn't know how to paint
Thanks man 😘😘😘
Excellent. Thank you.
Put my first coat of sealer on Ecoated part, first coat went super smooth 25 psi or so HVLP, second coat was very blotchy I even turned up the pressure, I don’t know what’s going on
Now that I have it on, can I just spray base on it, or do I need to 600 sand it, then base
Great vid.
I MISS PPG!! 😭😭😭
Cormax pro is where it's at..
One question, is a control coat useful with most jobs or just best used with metallics?
+Ramiros all jobs work 😀
Personally I don't control coat solid colors like white, red, black, etc. If they have metallic yes. solid colors are easy to do, cover quick., easy to blend.
Problem with envirobase sealer transition lines!! How do you prevent it? And also demo a walcom genesi gun.you will love this beast
+christian beahm haha sealer transition line ? Do you mean where you blend the sealer? I use SPRAY MAX SPOT BLENDER IT WORKS AMAZING
Thats what I mean? Never noticed the dark spot on lighter blues and silvers? Especially 1f7. A point of selling when it comes to the walcom heated air unit
Also, if you can demo a walcom genesi spray gun.like to hear what you think of it.I love this animal for enviro base
+christian beahm that's cool man! I got to try it out !
SXA840 blending solvent. Have it in the booth with you as you seal, melt in the edge and you’re golden. No sanding needed
HV25 aircap is good for solvent base??Is some better aircap?
mucho overspray al otro lado del carro. ... ahora tendra otro problema aparte del color en las defensas
El carro tiene spray mask. Person gracias por el comentario 😁😁
What would you recommend for a clear coat gun A sata 5500 or the iwata clear coat gun?
Hey gabe, I use spies, not ppg, do you know what I can substitute for 490?
Enjoy sema bro if you get a chance a vlog would be dope. God Bless you
+marina m I will try my best!!!😀😀
tacking! i just went to paint shop and they dont know what tack cloth or tack rag is? . am from philippines,, is that the same cloth they put bandage on your wounds?
+patrick quimmel HAHAHAHAHAH
Patrick, tack rag is basically a lint free cloth used with wax and grease remover to remove dust particles without leaving any kind of lint.
@@MOTIVATEDPAINTERS that's not a very good reply. Not everyone in the world has access to everything.
gabe, whats your go to setting on color setting and clear? full fluid??
Search here on TH-cam how I set up my clear gun so you can see it clear
Hi u say over reducer and t490
Example if I have 10 ons how much put abut water reducer and how much put t490???????? Thanks for your reply
+Alane Atika start with 1oz of each but you can put more 490 than reducer
Okay, I give up, what's "490"?
Haha t490 it's a waterbase clear type base
How do you keep pealrs from lookong blotchy
I have some problems with blending 😧😂
75 to 80 psi for water based paint???? wait what??
Sorry I misspoke lol 25 to 30
What's the difference between EC530 and EC520?
530 is slower 520 is a faster clear but not a. Super fast but much better to work with great if you don't have a bake oven
Great tips!
Hi Gabriel, you said that you are spaying at 75-80 psi! I assume you meant degrees, or are you on that high pressure?
Yes hahahaha
You mean "yes, should be degrees" or "yes, I am on that high pressure"?
B.t.w.. Your videos are the best out there on spray painting...
Degrees hahaha
Thank you so so so much !!!!😍😍
what is 490
is the 520 different from the d8175
Not sure my friend I have never used d8175
Okay so what is 490 is that a clear base?
Basically clear base
Hey gabe what would the 490 be? ???
+Jose Caudillo Caudillo for ppg it's called tinted clear additive waterbased
Thanks for your response man reason I ask i shoot solvent #cromax was wondering what I could sub 490 with. But thanks!!!
Jose Caudillo Caudillo the wet bed or blending toner I’m sure with controller
marshallpulham. Thanks man
Do you clean with alchohol
JBIRD575 i do always seems to help, pulls any antistatic out of it. I use the step one cleaner cant remember the name its a one choice, then wax an greese then i use alchohol. Seems to help. This is such a good video here buddy, been one of my biggest secrets i do as well before i tac it i always take small blower and run my hand over the whole panel then tac it. Jobs come out mint condition. Great vid buddy.
+brandon proctor thanks so much man!!!! 😊
+JBIRD575 I haven't tried it yet
MOTIVATED PAINTERS dirt cheap 1 dollar alchohol great cleaner!!!
+JBIRD575 will try that thank you 😊
How much 490 do i put in??
+Eddie Lugo a splash it all depends on how much paint you have left over I don't have a percentage to be honest. Try like 20% of what you have left over after you achieve coverage
MOTIVATED PAINTERS and do i pour it straight from the toner or do i reduce it before puting it in the cup?
Lol everything I thought I knew went out the window for a min.. I couldn't wrap my head around 75 psi.. haha I know you meant degrees.
No 25 then 18
Stuff tape in the handle holes
+Daniel Green yeah that's a good one! I'm just lazy sometimes 🙄🤔🙁🤕
it works..Not like someone is pulling off their door handles to see if there is a little over spray in them!
MOTIVATED PAINTERS some times that area gets a lot of dust and dirt.
Daniel Green not usually on those types of handles.
PainterFRO oh they can. Especially if you live in a dry dusty climate
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Nice boot
What would you recommend for a clear coat gun A sata 5500 or the iwata clear coat gun?
From those two iwata all the way