2D gets more than enough recognition with many still talked about projects, tv shows and movies that are still being made and generate more buzz alongside their 3D counterparts. Bluey, Bob's burgers, etc are still in the zeitgeist of discussion and popularity.....or I guess it doesn't matter because its digital 2D,? Well, too bad, beggars can't be choosers.
@@marshallw1902I think they’re referring to theatricals. Name the most recent theatrical 2D movie that wasn’t a anime or based on a already existing TV show
@@silashurd3597yes but studios now and days don’t respect, seeing it as something that should stick to TV or streaming. Walt Disney Animations revolutionized hand drawn animation yet now and days they dismiss it
Here's my list of favorite animation mediums from most to least. 1. Hand drawn 2D 2. Stop motion 3. 90s 3D 4. Computer drawn 2D/3D I grouped computer drawn 2D with 3D because they are literally the exact same thing.
i feel like people prefer 2D because it has more effort put into it, because as you may already know, 3D animation is much easier and faster to make than 2D animation due to you not having to draw every single frame, although people seem to forget that 3D animation isn't that simple or easy, it still takes time and talent, especially considering other stuff like special effects and stuff
3d animation isn't easier or faster to make than 2D. this is a common misconception. especially because cgi movies more and more are using more impressive technology that needs powerful computers and huge rendering farms just to render. it's ACTUALLY easier to make 2D movies because the process is far more simple and rudimentary, well, unless you want your 3D movie to look like a dated low-poly ps2 game.
@@scatmanjohnfan22 yeah, i think it comes from the fact that it seems like 2D animation is all made by one person (which isn't true most of the time) and 3D movies need to be animated by multiple people, but every movie needs a lot of people working on it no matter what
The main difference between video games and movies is that video games are more about immersion; you feel yourself essentially being part of that world because you are actively participating in it, whereas films are more about witnessing unrealistic events as they unfold. I find that 2D sells a film's fantastical elements better than 3D because it feels more stylistic.
Then why does everyone criticize the Nintendo switch for being outdated? Y’all complain about 3D animated movies entering “uncanny valley” but y’all beg for the most high quality photorealistic video games ever
@@DORAisD34D I don't play video games, so I can't answer the Nintendo Switch thing, but I find that the photo photorealistic 3D in video games sells the immersion experience more because their purpose is to be interactive. It feels like you're addressing a real person, even when you know it's fake.
@@DORAisD34D nobody wants hype-realistic games either outside of billion dollar corporations and some vocal xbox/sony fanboys. and yes, the switch's hardware IS outdated. quit your bullshit recency bias.
Thank you, that’s exactly what I said on the community post. It doesn’t matter if a film is hand-drawn or done on a computer, as long as it’s good, then that’s what matters.
Honestly, I just longingly wish that both 2D and 3D can just exist together. I get that 3D animation has so much potential, but, the truth is that 2D animation still has just as much potential. I always hate the fact that people nowadays always assume that nobody can do anything to actually advance 2D animation like they can with 3D animation. 2D animation can be just as much wholly advanced as 3D animation. That’s why it deserves to make a comeback and it kills me nonstop on the inside that people including movie companies absolutely fail to see that.😢
Exactly, so far the only Non-Anime movie studio that’s till making 2D movies is Cartoon Saloon and there recent movies were slapped on streaming instead of theatres
there actually is a 2D movie being made by warner bros. rn, called the day the earth blew up featuring porky pig and the other looney tunes stars. might be canceled or scrapped like the roadrunner movie but yeah
Animation is not a genre, its an art form that can show a genre, wether it would be a detective movie, western, an r rated movie, or a kids fairytale, and a whole lot of others. - Wise Guy.
I do agree that the type of animation doesn't make a movie better or worse, however 2D does make me feel a different way than 3D usually. it's hard to explain, but when watching a 2D movie like Spirited Away, The Secret of Kells or The Lion King I get the feeling like I'm watching a painting in a museum. there are 3D movies that also give me this feeling like Puss in Boots 2, Entergalactic, the upcoming Wild Robot or the Chinese movie Deep Sea, but usually It's a feeling that 3D rarely brings. it might also be that with every frame of animation I can feel the effort of the artist, which is also a feeling that stop motion also gives also, saying that "nobody wanted 2D animation after 3D animation" is a lie because, not only does the success of The Boy and The Heron and Klaus in the US proves this wrong, but because it's very well known that Disney sabotaged their 2D movies in the early 2000s, with Treasure Planet barely being promoted, I bet that if it had good marketing we would see a mixture of both. hell Japan pretty much proves this as most of their animation is still 2D animated and does very well, not only with shows but their movies also are successful also, this might just be bad wording, but you're making sound 2D as an inherently outdated artform is very insulting towards the effort that takes to make these movies. there is a truth that we live in an era where they are experimenting with the medium, but acting as if it inherently means that 3D is the superior artform because it's "modern" is a lie as there is still a possibility to experiment with 2D and Klaus pretty much proved it. you make the comparison that "nobody says this with videogames and ask for more pixel videogames" but that's because we still get pixel videogames; from the indie scene admittedly but games like Shovel Knight or Undertale are still very popular to the point they make collaborations with the big studios, where as 2D is made by indie studios that rarely get any recognition from the general public. you also say that "once companies got the technology to make 3D games they didn't make any more 2D games" but that's a lie. Castlevania: Symphony of the Knight or Oddworld were still very beloved games from that era, hell Sonic Mania was better received than most 3D Sonic games and that was a pixel art game, but that is another can of worms and is moving away from the main point. the point is that the comparison doesn't make sense because hand drawn animation isn't some relic of the past that we can forget and make way for the "new and superior medium", it's still something we can still experiment with you also made the point that people who say they want 2D back say it out of nostalgia and that's not really it. speaking as someone who grew in the 2000s and therefore grew up with movies like Shrek, Kung fu Panda or golden era Pixar, I can say that nowadays some my favorite studios are 2D. Science Saru, Cartoon Saloon and Ghibli make some of my favorite movies from the modern era like Ride your Wave, The Breadwinner or The Boy and the Heron(and Studio Trigger too but they mostly make shows so it's not really related to this conversation) so making it look as "It's just nostalgia" is a way to simplify the conversation as like I said 3D just doesn't usually bring the same feeling as 2D the one this I fully agree with is that one shouldn't undermine a style based since it is true that, whether is hand drawn, computer animated or stop motion it still takes a lot of effort and it is true that making a movie in this style doesn't make a movie better or worse, which is pretty much how I started this comment, funnily enough
They complain about 3D animated movies entering “uncanny valley" but they beg for the most high quality photorealistic video games ever, and they shi on the Nintendo switch for being OUTDATED (because its 3D animation isn’t as good as say the PS5). And you brought up good points about evolution. The truth is, 3D is animation is a lot more experimental. 3D movies can look awful, but movies like Encanto, Toy Story 4, Puss in Boots 2, Spiderverse (that show off the capabilities of 3D) show the POTENTIAL of 3D animation, and I’m tired of people calling it bland 😂
3D is versatile, but so is 2D. As shown by Cartoon Saloon, Studio Ghibli and even the Netflix film, Klaus. Theirs have shown that 2D isn’t dated, 2D can never be dated. 3D however can be, Toy Story was considered revolutionary but come on, are you gonna sit there and say “Yeah, this is freaking beautiful!” No, you wouldn’t. Cause 3D can becames dated, what if animation keeps improving to where those movies you mentioned will be considered dated. Whiles 2D films like The Lion King will forever be considered 1 of the most beautifully animated films to date despite being much older. I’m not hating on 3D, infract meny movies definitely benefiting from 3D. Like those movies you mentionedi could not see being in any other medium. I’m just saying that you shouldn’t throw 2D under the bus
Ah yes, the sequel video to the animation is cinema video. P.S totally not against the animation is cinema thing just like you. Yes, animation is animation and as long as I'm having a great time thats all that matters.
Exactly, who cares if it’s 2d or 3d, I was mainly a 3d kid in the mid to late 2000s to early 2010s growing up with golden age Pixar, Dreameorks first 3d movies, Disney revival era, and the most unique movie with a realistic CGI, being the LEGO movie
Not to mention that there are two concept arts of Disney's Wish that has caused everybody to outrage involving making Star a shapeshifter as well as making him a potential love interest for Asha, which a lot of people wanted because there hasn't been a romance since Tangled, but in reality, that's not the case because the Star would end up taking the form of Asha's grandfather, but people wanted to ship them anyway, and King Magnifico and Queen Amaya being a villain power couple along with a evil pet sphynx cat named Charo. Tell me if these two concepts are as derivative as the rest of the movie?
How about make a video about 90s kids trashing 2010s cartoons ( what the call tumblr era) because shows like regular show and adventure time are getting hate now, despite most gen z seeing them as classics
I totally agree with but the only thing i want is more recognition not a comeback cuz to be BRUTALLY honest 2D doesn't need anything right now because studios are already experimenting with 3D animation and i think people are going to continue experimenting with it for a while and 3D animation will continue revolutionate and there is no place for 2D to come back. (Sorry for my bad english)
This video is incredibly stupid because of Undertale, Celeste and Cuphead, kind of and kind of even the entire existence of the 3DS! And there are still some video games that are eight bit, way more than animated films anyways oh also, you mentioned sponge out of water which was made by nickelodeon lol.
Yeah it's just how the Angry video game nerd says it the best thing about any video game is being able to play it and that's how he became popular and this is probably something that Zerex would hate but avgn was one of the most popular old gaming TH-camrs to make the swearing equals funny style of jokes
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I don’t hate 3D. I just wish 2D would get more recognition.
Yes
2D gets more than enough recognition with many still talked about projects, tv shows and movies that are still being made and generate more buzz alongside their 3D counterparts.
Bluey, Bob's burgers, etc are still in the zeitgeist of discussion and popularity.....or I guess it doesn't matter because its digital 2D,? Well, too bad, beggars can't be choosers.
“More recognition”?
Dude, 2D has been around for decades and decades. It has had MORE THAN ENOUGH recognition. Calm down
@@marshallw1902I think they’re referring to theatricals. Name the most recent theatrical 2D movie that wasn’t a anime or based on a already existing TV show
@@silashurd3597yes but studios now and days don’t respect, seeing it as something that should stick to TV or streaming.
Walt Disney Animations revolutionized hand drawn animation yet now and days they dismiss it
No matter what All Types of Animation is Animation I like them all.
Here's my list of favorite animation mediums from most to least.
1. Hand drawn 2D
2. Stop motion
3. 90s 3D
4. Computer drawn 2D/3D
I grouped computer drawn 2D with 3D because they are literally the exact same thing.
As long as it's storytelling, captivating and worth watching, it's not an issue
i feel like people prefer 2D because it has more effort put into it, because as you may already know, 3D animation is much easier and faster to make than 2D animation due to you not having to draw every single frame, although people seem to forget that 3D animation isn't that simple or easy, it still takes time and talent, especially considering other stuff like special effects and stuff
3d animation isn't easier or faster to make than 2D. this is a common misconception. especially because cgi movies more and more are using more impressive technology that needs powerful computers and huge rendering farms just to render. it's ACTUALLY easier to make 2D movies because the process is far more simple and rudimentary, well, unless you want your 3D movie to look like a dated low-poly ps2 game.
@@scatmanjohnfan22 yeah, i think it comes from the fact that it seems like 2D animation is all made by one person (which isn't true most of the time) and 3D movies need to be animated by multiple people, but every movie needs a lot of people working on it no matter what
Tbh, I prefer 2D more when it's a cartoon than an animated movie.
There's alot going on with 2D when it's just a show, special or short.
The main difference between video games and movies is that video games are more about immersion; you feel yourself essentially being part of that world because you are actively participating in it, whereas films are more about witnessing unrealistic events as they unfold. I find that 2D sells a film's fantastical elements better than 3D because it feels more stylistic.
Then why does everyone criticize the Nintendo switch for being outdated? Y’all complain about 3D animated movies entering “uncanny valley” but y’all beg for the most high quality photorealistic video games ever
@@DORAisD34D I don't play video games, so I can't answer the Nintendo Switch thing, but I find that the photo photorealistic 3D in video games sells the immersion experience more because their purpose is to be interactive. It feels like you're addressing a real person, even when you know it's fake.
@@ThePrincessCH yeah I see your point about immersion
@@DORAisD34D nobody wants hype-realistic games either outside of billion dollar corporations and some vocal xbox/sony fanboys. and yes, the switch's hardware IS outdated. quit your bullshit recency bias.
While Toy Story was the first animated movie to be animated on computers, Shrek catapulted computer animation to a new level.
Thank you, that’s exactly what I said on the community post. It doesn’t matter if a film is hand-drawn or done on a computer, as long as it’s good, then that’s what matters.
As an artist who tried doing both, they're bith really hard mediums to do.
I'm mostly a 2D person. But I enjoy 3D, but I wish they bring back 2D animation films.
Honestly, I just longingly wish that both 2D and 3D can just exist together.
I get that 3D animation has so much potential, but, the truth is that 2D animation still has just as much potential.
I always hate the fact that people nowadays always assume that nobody can do anything to actually advance 2D animation like they can with 3D animation.
2D animation can be just as much wholly advanced as 3D animation.
That’s why it deserves to make a comeback and it kills me nonstop on the inside that people including movie companies absolutely fail to see that.😢
Exactly, so far the only Non-Anime movie studio that’s till making 2D movies is Cartoon Saloon and there recent movies were slapped on streaming instead of theatres
@@TheBatIsRad6436 That sucks!😞
there actually is a 2D movie being made by warner bros. rn, called the day the earth blew up featuring porky pig and the other looney tunes stars. might be canceled or scrapped like the roadrunner movie but yeah
Animation is not a genre, its an art form that can show a genre, wether it would be a detective movie, western, an r rated movie, or a kids fairytale, and a whole lot of others. - Wise Guy.
The reason people aren’t wanting games to be like they used to is because we already make games like they used to unlike animation in cinema
wasn't the last 2d film in theatres the pony movie or some thing, excluding anime+
Bobs burgers the movie
And then there’s stop motion, it’s dead.
I do agree that the type of animation doesn't make a movie better or worse, however 2D does make me feel a different way than 3D usually. it's hard to explain, but when watching a 2D movie like Spirited Away, The Secret of Kells or The Lion King I get the feeling like I'm watching a painting in a museum. there are 3D movies that also give me this feeling like Puss in Boots 2, Entergalactic, the upcoming Wild Robot or the Chinese movie Deep Sea, but usually It's a feeling that 3D rarely brings. it might also be that with every frame of animation I can feel the effort of the artist, which is also a feeling that stop motion also gives
also, saying that "nobody wanted 2D animation after 3D animation" is a lie because, not only does the success of The Boy and The Heron and Klaus in the US proves this wrong, but because it's very well known that Disney sabotaged their 2D movies in the early 2000s, with Treasure Planet barely being promoted, I bet that if it had good marketing we would see a mixture of both. hell Japan pretty much proves this as most of their animation is still 2D animated and does very well, not only with shows but their movies also are successful
also, this might just be bad wording, but you're making sound 2D as an inherently outdated artform is very insulting towards the effort that takes to make these movies. there is a truth that we live in an era where they are experimenting with the medium, but acting as if it inherently means that 3D is the superior artform because it's "modern" is a lie as there is still a possibility to experiment with 2D and Klaus pretty much proved it. you make the comparison that "nobody says this with videogames and ask for more pixel videogames" but that's because we still get pixel videogames; from the indie scene admittedly but games like Shovel Knight or Undertale are still very popular to the point they make collaborations with the big studios, where as 2D is made by indie studios that rarely get any recognition from the general public. you also say that "once companies got the technology to make 3D games they didn't make any more 2D games" but that's a lie. Castlevania: Symphony of the Knight or Oddworld were still very beloved games from that era, hell Sonic Mania was better received than most 3D Sonic games and that was a pixel art game, but that is another can of worms and is moving away from the main point. the point is that the comparison doesn't make sense because hand drawn animation isn't some relic of the past that we can forget and make way for the "new and superior medium", it's still something we can still experiment with
you also made the point that people who say they want 2D back say it out of nostalgia and that's not really it. speaking as someone who grew in the 2000s and therefore grew up with movies like Shrek, Kung fu Panda or golden era Pixar, I can say that nowadays some my favorite studios are 2D. Science Saru, Cartoon Saloon and Ghibli make some of my favorite movies from the modern era like Ride your Wave, The Breadwinner or The Boy and the Heron(and Studio Trigger too but they mostly make shows so it's not really related to this conversation) so making it look as "It's just nostalgia" is a way to simplify the conversation as like I said 3D just doesn't usually bring the same feeling as 2D
the one this I fully agree with is that one shouldn't undermine a style based since it is true that, whether is hand drawn, computer animated or stop motion it still takes a lot of effort and it is true that making a movie in this style doesn't make a movie better or worse, which is pretty much how I started this comment, funnily enough
Ok, but what about _4D_ animation?
Yes, it does matter. 2D is default animation, 3D is trying to be real life. 2D has more life than 3D. It matters.
The virgin 2D and 3D animation vs the CHAD stop motion animation
Yessss!.....YEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!
@@thardump859Vs the Gad: Cutting up your body parts and animating them
Takes so much hard work that your limping on the ground from REDACTED lost
They complain about 3D animated movies entering “uncanny valley" but they beg for the most high quality photorealistic video games ever, and they shi on the Nintendo switch for being OUTDATED (because its 3D animation isn’t as good as say the PS5).
And you brought up good points about evolution. The truth is, 3D is animation is a lot more experimental. 3D movies can look awful, but movies like Encanto, Toy Story 4, Puss in Boots 2, Spiderverse (that show off the capabilities of 3D) show the POTENTIAL of 3D animation, and I’m tired of people calling it bland 😂
3D is versatile, but so is 2D. As shown by Cartoon Saloon, Studio Ghibli and even the Netflix film, Klaus. Theirs have shown that 2D isn’t dated, 2D can never be dated. 3D however can be, Toy Story was considered revolutionary but come on, are you gonna sit there and say “Yeah, this is freaking beautiful!” No, you wouldn’t. Cause 3D can becames dated, what if animation keeps improving to where those movies you mentioned will be considered dated. Whiles 2D films like The Lion King will forever be considered 1 of the most beautifully animated films to date despite being much older.
I’m not hating on 3D, infract meny movies definitely benefiting from 3D. Like those movies you mentionedi could not see being in any other medium. I’m just saying that you shouldn’t throw 2D under the bus
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
Ah yes, the sequel video to the animation is cinema video. P.S totally not against the animation is cinema thing just like you. Yes, animation is animation and as long as I'm having a great time thats all that matters.
I could care less if a film is 2D or 3D
Well at least spider-man Across the Spider Verse won a Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards
I will enjoy the movies either way it would be nice to see both.
This guy is the definition of based
Exactly, who cares if it’s 2d or 3d, I was mainly a 3d kid in the mid to late 2000s to early 2010s growing up with golden age Pixar, Dreameorks first 3d movies, Disney revival era, and the most unique movie with a realistic CGI, being the LEGO movie
Oh god.... The Lego Movie was an idiotic and insufferable pile of shit and that's a fact.
@@thardump859 that’s the first 😅
@@thardump859I feel like a lot of people would disagree with you on that.
Not to mention that there are two concept arts of Disney's Wish that has caused everybody to outrage involving making Star a shapeshifter as well as making him a potential love interest for Asha, which a lot of people wanted because there hasn't been a romance since Tangled, but in reality, that's not the case because the Star would end up taking the form of Asha's grandfather, but people wanted to ship them anyway, and King Magnifico and Queen Amaya being a villain power couple along with a evil pet sphynx cat named Charo. Tell me if these two concepts are as derivative as the rest of the movie?
Please make a video talking about Illumination's films, and whether you agree with others' opinions about them
How about make a video about 90s kids trashing 2010s cartoons ( what the call tumblr era) because shows like regular show and adventure time are getting hate now, despite most gen z seeing them as classics
@@edwardsaldana2534Who’s hating on Regular show and Adventure time?
@@Sparklecakes13 the ones that hate cartoons with lgbq representation
I agree with this video
I totally agree with but the only thing i want is more recognition not a comeback cuz to be BRUTALLY honest 2D doesn't need anything right now because studios are already experimenting with 3D animation and i think people are going to continue experimenting with it for a while and 3D animation will continue revolutionate and there is no place for 2D to come back. (Sorry for my bad english)
It doesn't matter which is the best I just watch the movies.🍎
I mean as long as it looks good
Don't know what the issue is but I'm hearing everything just fine
I can't hear anything
This video is incredibly stupid because of Undertale, Celeste and Cuphead, kind of and kind of even the entire existence of the 3DS! And there are still some video games that are eight bit, way more than animated films anyways oh also, you mentioned sponge out of water which was made by nickelodeon lol.
3ds had a lot of 2d games, but some quality ones, except for ziplash
Like what most Pokémon fans are like after b2w2 9:49 it’s just really stupid since the 3ds Pokémon games are graphicly impressive
Even Wikipedia is going by that mindset, which is for the better!
Yeah it's just how the Angry video game nerd says it the best thing about any video game is being able to play it and that's how he became popular and this is probably something that Zerex would hate but avgn was one of the most popular old gaming TH-camrs to make the swearing equals funny style of jokes
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Honestly, you should do a PBS Kids video next.
(I know I said this way too much & it's starting to get annoying but here's my opinon:
PBS Kids shows from the 1st PBS Kids show-2014: Golden (the regular TV age) PBS Kids shows from 2015-present: Generic (the streaming age) That's all.)
this video looks intersting
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I'm kinda more of a Flash and digital ink and paint animation fan.
Cel animation, as much as I love it, is kinda overrated.