Mortified Narcissist, Borderline Switch Places: New Ideas for Therapy? (and Supply)

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  • @samvaknin
    @samvaknin  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Mortification was first described in 1957. Starting in the 1980s, scholars such as Libbey (2006) expanded the study of mortification dramatically. For more, watch this th-cam.com/video/ziIrvAm6rJw/w-d-xo.html

  • @glendaeddy6919
    @glendaeddy6919 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    They just shift blame from their wrongdoing unto someone else! They never take responsibility!!

  • @VitaInDC
    @VitaInDC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A lot of homicides and beat downs are the result of being publicly humiliated. I had a neighbor who was set on fire by another who had deliberately threw a beer on him and laughed in front of other guys. The guy who was made the butt of that 'joke' had always had a weird vibe and been to jail in the past. He returned a day or two later for revenge, and the prankster died painfully 5 days later in the hospital with over 2/3 I'd his body burned.

  • @johntracey4196
    @johntracey4196 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    my covert neighbor has started whispering instead of talking when our paths cross I'm sure I accidentally caused him mortification

    • @donniemchone
      @donniemchone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I can relate to this in so many ways.
      Thank you so much for sharing.

    • @Authentisch-Bewusstsein
      @Authentisch-Bewusstsein 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Right

  • @Maxsm19Smith
    @Maxsm19Smith 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    my ex was diagnosed narcissist and borderline. Is it possible? He stopped therapy after couple of months, because bullshit reason he couldn't find time for his therapist. Even in therapy he was using me, manipulating me. Can he eventually become better person ? or should i give up and just block him. It's so hard for me, i love him so much it's killing me. He sometimes seems like he cares about me, idolizes me, devalues me and so on, i feel like it's never gonna end. I watch all of your videos, and it seems to never get to me, that this person is dead inside, even though i look into his eyes and 95% of times i see no one there. I just wish he would be more empathetic and don't overuse my kindness.

    • @reinas1713
      @reinas1713 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Cut contact and heal what the narcissist gave you.

    • @Maxsm19Smith
      @Maxsm19Smith 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@reinas1713 it's very easy to say but i feel totally addicted to him and i have trauma bond :/ i cut off contact with him 2 months and he came back ... even i told him to leave me alone if he wants to play games... and here he is again playing games. I don't get even why i love him, he brought me so much pain.

    • @reinas1713
      @reinas1713 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Maxsm19Smith never said it was easy and at some point you’ve got to choose yourself. Work with a therapist and figure out your stuff. You deserve better.

  • @staceyeldredge9191
    @staceyeldredge9191 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I am currently "enmeshed" in this exact scenario. I recently divorced my husband and the escalation of not inly mental abuse, but physical abuse (which was not always present unless I misbehaved or broke his rules) and delusions of reality have been terrifying. The divorce has only made my life worse-much worse.

  • @kryptocatz
    @kryptocatz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One of the best descriptions of narc and borderline mortification yet... thank you Prof. Vaknin

  • @JJ-rp2df
    @JJ-rp2df 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fascinating insights. Curious if npd mortification and destroyed self image can be a positive cycle of reconstruction, achieving self awareness and insight.
    Humiliation, shame, dysregulation and acting out aside, perhaps accepting imperfection and fallibility can reduce internalised narcissistic supply and grandiosity restored.

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Search the channel for “mortification”.

  • @ginafarley6190
    @ginafarley6190 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I will have to rewatch, need more time to absorb this. Thank you

  • @Em-m2c
    @Em-m2c 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If a man (narcissist) has been involved with the same woman for many years. Can he tell that this woman has the borderline diagnosis even if she kept it a secret. Even if he himself don’t admit he is a narcissist?

  • @ljm8636
    @ljm8636 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We love you Sam. You have all the goodies. It's always a treat when you come on. Thank you for not being boring ❤

  • @aalves9453
    @aalves9453 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Could disassocation occur to a narcissist during mortification?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Dissociation. Narcissists always dissociate. Search the channel for "dissoc".

  • @fenellajames4112
    @fenellajames4112 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Sam, doesn’t‘ I am the biggest victim’ entraining, after mortification play the part of self supply?
    Btw I love your videos and always watch them to the end. Thank you.

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yes. Watch the videos here on mortification. "I am the greatest victim" is only one of the ways out of mortification.

  • @BeehiveExCult
    @BeehiveExCult 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you. The psychotic element on the way to (re-)entranment is something I think I saw. An e-cult leader was publicly humiliated and lost many followers. His repatching of himself and his cult had an uncontrollably, manic and disturbingly euphoric air to it for while in the immediate aftermath of the collapse. Witnessing it helped me to leave the e-cult.

    • @BeehiveExCult
      @BeehiveExCult 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@donandhiscampervan I simply use the term "e-cult" to refer to a cult that exists predominantly online. That's all.

  • @missellz7630
    @missellz7630 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you please do a video Sam on financial abuse and why narcissist target individuals who are financially stable ie:good credit and budgeting please 🙏🏽

  • @glauciaraadbarbosa2638
    @glauciaraadbarbosa2638 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Professor, does the narcissist have mirror neurons in their brain? I am asking because you say they are not capable of feeling empathy.

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Mirror neurons is media hype, not science (yet).