If a chromebook (based on the laziest search of the avg cost of one) is one-third-to-half the value of a suspicious wizard's hurdy gurdy, and a proper hurdy gurdy costs (perhaps??) more than twice as much as the one BDG got, then perhaps he would have had to trade FOUR to SIX or MORE books forged in chrome for a substantial hurdy gurdy
Omg I can relate to this so much! I‘ve been hanging around that site for months now, looking at pictures and comments on harmonicas, not buying the one I want (or anything at all) because student money :(
Just adding my comment to all of the other BDG fans who found this by chance, found it very informative and interesting and really wants BDG to see this, if only to give him another reason to release all twelve verses
@@danielslovak9736 But I must know how he came to converse with this wizard. For all that we know is he saw a wizard, then a time later the wizard offered his treasure
Not a hurdy-gurdy player but my thoughts on the tone of his instrument is that I think the instrument given to you by a strange wizard hanging out in central park who steals your knowledge of what a laptop is, so that you'll trade it to him should sound at least a little bit like an unholy abomination. It's an infernal instrument from an infernal being.
I came across this video randomly because I am a fan of Brian's. I thought what you had to say was super interesting! Not only did you know the exact kind of hurdy gurdy Brian had bought but you broke down what made playing that particular hurdy gurdy difficult. I would love to learn how to play this lovely instrument one day and am glad to have found your channel.
I'm also in the camp of people who want to learn to play the hurdy-gurdy, and who are appreciative to know what to look for in a suitable beginner's piece! Thank you for your excellent insight, Folkskelet!
Haha, Brian is not rich, he is just a compulsive individual who spends his extra money on instruments he rarely plays. If you want a better idea of his financial situation, watch his video on when Mario can retire.
Somewhere there's a wizard version of Folkskelet saying "Yeah this chromebook is a pretty common one you can get by scamming a dude looking for a hurdy gurdy. It's alright for a first laptop but it has some issues."
@@Folkskelet The two of you are pretty similar bar the floppy hat and wizard beard :) Also, this was such a cool video! I'm really into sound design and I love finding out about niche instruments, so when I saw the hurdy gurdy in Brian's vid i was intrigued. Getting to hear an experienced opinion on the instrument, as well as the ways the design of the instrument has been refined to produce clear sound and be easy to work was cool
you just in general shouldn't be buying instruments from etsy unless you can track down the brand elsewhere, you don't know where they come from or who really makes them. A lot of folk instruments have the same issues!
@@slithra227 But at least with this specific gurdy (and some knowledge about gurdys) you can fix almost all the issues. Well, except for the biggest one: it has no dogs.
@@sweetcrispyjesus1511 I actually bought one of the Workshop Medieval instruments for getting at least used to the mechanics while waiting for my professionally built gurdy. When I took it to my luthier for some adjustments, she was genuinely amazed by the sound of the instrument. There are, of course, a few issues with it, but soundwise it beats many other instruments out there by miles. The instrument is all in all no match for my trusty Phoenix Abraxas, of course, but it actually has its uses.
This is the decade of folk! THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN!!! ARM YOURSELVES, CHILDREN OF WHEEL AND STRING!!! MAY OUR WOOD AND RESOLVE N'ER WARP FROM THE COLD OBSCURING MISTS OF UNCERTAINTY!!!
the fond laughter at Dorian mode gave me a laugh, but the education about an instrument I have no experience with whatsoever kept me watching. Very cool to learn about the desired tonality and technique.
Haha. 🤗 But seriously though, if you look at old folk tunes, there is so much Dorian mode. I loved that he included that detail, it is such a well done video.
@@TheMeeploo there is a theory connecting all the demons Brian has encountered, mentioning how maybe Dorian Smiles already has an influence over him at the time of this video, or maybe connecting him to the wizard
I saw this video pop up when I went back to search for Brian's video again, and this was so fantastically interesting! I know next to nothing about hurdy gurdies - I never would have even considered that something so seemingly innocuous as a cap nut would have such an impact on the practicality of playing the instrument! Excellent video. Also seeing you immediately play his melody by ear and go, "Heh... dorian." made my day :D
Gurdies are VERY intricate instruments with so many bits to them that can go horribly wrong. Its kind of incredible sometimes how small a thing can throw the whole thing out
"You won't believe the number of ballads I've sung, you know with 27 verses with the main character dying over the course of half the song, it's amazing I love it" Subscribed.
Fan of Brian's, found this through search. This was well-made and informative, thank you :) (Also, shocked and impressed that you knew the model by looking at it. Wow!)
@@JurrevanHerwijnen The nerdy gurdy and the hurdy gurdy sold by Thomann but that is one by Karl Riedel and you're better of ordering directly from him as it saves you about 600,- (Thomann margin) But yes, there is no factory made segment. The hurdy gurdy is too niche for the investment in a factory and you can't actually cut out people from that much of the building process. So yes. Circa 100 craftsmen worldwide. Most work with a catalogue but it will be made to order.
So this is a hurdy gurdy player. Edit: Also side note, I somehow was recommended this video despite not knowing who the guy youre talking about is. I've never seen his videos. So maybe you hit the algorithm with this one. Hope your channel blows up and would love to see mory hot gurdy content.
Thank you! I will definitely keep making videos. 🤗 Interesting how the algorithm works, I thought it only offered it to BDG fans but apparently it is bigger. Regardless, I appreciate it. Cheers! 🙋🏻♀️
Absolutely lovely. As both a BDG and hurdy gurdy enthusiast, this was exceptionally insightful. Love the rest of your content too! Would you ever consider doing any videos on the style of playing that the French performer Guilhelm Desq does? Thanks!
Thank you so much! About Guilhem Desq: do you mean you want me to analyse what he is doing or something? Technique and gear? I can already tell you he is a lot better than I am 😅
The fact that the hurdy-gurdy isn't even that good just adds to the lore and makes it even better lol. I'm so glad I found your channel, instantly subbed!
3:56 “Dorian” It’s not much but I’m always impressed by how many instrument players are well versed in musical knowledge, when technically you don’t necessarily need to know one to do the other
*Seeing the title* What reaction could you possible have other than laughing? *After watching the video* Joins the facebook group and starts budgeting 3K for the perfect hurdy
I love love love hearing experts talking about their expertise. It’s amazing that you could identify the exact model he had after a glance at one corner of it.
Hello! I am a BDG fan (as many here are, apparently) and was drawn in by the fact that there is actually a *community* based around the hurdy-gurdy, which surprised and intrigued me. You are very kind with your commentary and knowledgeable on the subject, so thank you for making this video! You've earned a subscriber!
I think bdg actually likes the tone it has, (I think??), though, because it has this very final fantasy crystal chronicles vibe to it, and that's probably one of the reasons he wanted a hurdy gurdy in the first place? Also, great video, I really enjoyed it! It was really nice hearing your thoughts and explanations, and the way you put it and reacted made it all pretty entertaining. You have very expressive faces, it's great. Good content, thank you!
Thank you! I adore big ballads, they were like exciting and epic entertainment before there were books and movies. One of my favourites is Matty Groves. Fairport convention edited it down to 18 verses but the original had 29. Garmarna has some older albums with long epic songs and absolute peak drama is the Highwayman by Loreena McKennit. I did a Dutch classic with my band called Heer Halewijn (Lord Halewijn) we edited it down to the bare minimum needed to make the song make sense and still ended up with a 7 minute song. 🤣
This video was very interesting and informative! Loved the comparision between the song in the video and you playing part of it. Also, whilst I assume this wasnt part of the joke, the fact that, in the song he pawned a laptop (and presumably his knowledge of what a laptop is) for a sub par hurdy gurdy adds an extra layer of comedy to it. Great video!
This video has an insane amount of just general niceness and genuine helpfulness and I'm just very glad to have seen something so nice on the internet today
As someone who's a big BDG fan, I really appreciate this response!! It was really cool to listen to someone who knows a lot about this instrument respond to the video. I don't think you threw any shade. :) But now that you've pointed out the problems with the particular instrument he bought, I really hope he's able to either modify it or otherwise make it work without hurting himself. D: Also boy howdy I'm now very curious about hurdy gurdy stuff and will definitely check out more of your videos! :D
I loved the part about twelve verses. One of my favorite songs of all time is The Swindlers Ballad by Worldwide Adventures and it’s like half an hour long and has four sections where the main characters die, go to hell, and overthrow Davy Jones to sail to Fiddlers Green on the ship that would never set sail. It is glorious.
Hi. Was a concert cellist for 7 years. I know what you mean about tone. I also understand the appeal of a janky sounding instrument i.e. noisy key boxes and buzzing strings. Depends on for what one is going.
Oh definitely! Not everything needs the extremely refined, creamy sound. There is enormous variety in gurdy sounds. Personally I do really differentiate between the rustic "janky" sounds and the sounds that indicate it isn't working correctly. But I do agree with you.
@@Folkskelet Oh you responded personally! Thank you so much! It's nice to be recognised. I confess, I've not seen many of your videos as TH-cam has a way of providing so much...and I tend to lean towards metal covers...but I'm gonna binge your channel a bit now.
Oh... wow. So I came here because it's you and I love your videos, and after the first few bars of the song I went and found the original and watched that, and then came back here to watch the rest of your take. I love how clear but kind you are in your dissection of this gurdy, this sweet guy's playing, and your way of describing how to get correct right hand position. It's really awful that it would likely be quite painful to use that crank correctly so it forces a player into an all-wrong position that might be quite difficult to correct later. I actually really like the video in terms of concept, writing, singing, all of it- except that gurdy! Brian does make it sound fairly decent, all things considered, but still. I love your analogy of buying a guitar with the frets in the wrong place, by the way- that's so useful and I will be using it in my own attempts to get folks up to speed on why even a beginner needs a certain level of quality in their instrument!
What a perfect experience, watch a funny sketch, then watch a reaction that gives some interesting insight into the instrument! Seriously what makes youtube so great!
the issues you had with the crank are easily fixable by raising the nob with a longer bolt and a small length of pipe to space it. And the long nut could be completely removed and replaced with an open axel nut and have any excess rod ground down.
Came across this as a fan of Brian's but also as someone potentially interested in buying one of these instruments. What would you say is a good one to look for, since you say the one he has is not a good one to pick?
That actually depends on what you want to do with it and how much you want to spend. It is a non standardized instrument so there is a lot of variety. What I would recommend is reserving a budget of around the 2.5K to 3K ballpark and shop for a forever gurdy. Get a GOOD and not too complicated gurdy from a really reputable maker. A proven model that you really like. Really research it and see if you and the maker click, see what other players think. 5 or 6 strings. It will not be too overwhelming but complete enough to be a joy to play at any level. Take good care of it and it will barely deprecate if at all. That way you have an amazing handmade gurdy for life and if you don't take to it or if you want to sell to reinvest in an upgrade, you will barely lose any money because the demand for well made and not too costly gurdies is really high. A nerdy gurdy can be good to dip your toes for a small fee and can be a good alternative to survive the waitlist. If you build the kit yourself, you can be done for a couple hundred. You can also do it for a budget in the 800 to 2000,- if you are willing to compromise and take a lot of care because that is the price range where items like this Etsy gurdy sit. I made a long list of gurdies under 2K, it is in the Hurdy Gurdy community on Facebook. Best thing to do is be patient and really research. I hope that helps!
This is a really cool and kind video that I really enjoyed watching! I hope Brian sees it and I can't wait to check out the rest of your videos! I'm learning an instrument (flute) for the first time and I made a poor choice buying it... it was actually helpful to notice that the trouble I had playing it was down to the instrument, not me! So I didn't blame myself for struggling. I hope anyone who watches this who had a similar situation feels reassured in the same way, and I hope Brian can get a better hurdy gurdy if he's interested in learning! Great video :-)
I am obsessed with Hurdy Gurdys and love listening to them. I follow Brian so likely found your channel on that link. Its great to hear the technical parts, and you made it informative which kept it interesting. I was looking to buy one (I live in the UK) and as its a niche instrument, I accepted it will be expensive, so thanks for providing the cautions on the Etsy version. It would be brill to know if there's a good value for money option which will be reliable. I'm not looking for cheapest but would still like to spend as little as possible, without buying an inferior product (that budget sweet spot). Would be nice to see future videos on more technical things and explanations of how it works, and why parts are made a specific way :)
Thank you!! Yes, there definitely are reliable and more affordable options. I have made a big list of decent gurdies under 2K, that is in the Hurdy gurdy community on Facebook. In the UK I totally recommend Chris Allen & Sabina Kormylo. They are the makers of my hurdy gurdy and they are very, very good. Their instruments are very refined, light and sweet players. The symfonie (medieval box shaped) starts at 1200,- pounds and their other gurdies start at 2000,- pounds I think. I can imagine those numbers look a bit terrifying though, so have a look at the other list and see if there is something you really love. It is a big stack of money regardless, so take your time. I am planning other videos so I'll see if I can do a technical deep dive :)
What a nice (and informative!) reaction video. So cool to learn about what made the one BDG chose particularly hard to play. And learning he got scammed by an Etsy wizard was a great bonus--feels extremely on brand
Great video, super interesting! Did just want to let you know that Brian didn't buy the hurdy gurdy off etsy, he mentioned on his podcast that he actually got it custom made. Edit: He talks abt it in Let's Make a Music ep 6 (flailing around) around the 3:00 minute mark.
I love this! You explained really well the technical aspects of the hurdy gurdy and I feel smarter just from watching this lol, thank you for sharing your expertise!!
I'm so glad you showed up in my algorithm!! I can't believe my interests in historical performance and Brian David Gilbert have collided in this way...
I genuinely love that a channel like yours can exist on the internet, and I'm glad to see that thousands of people now know a bit more about hurdy-gurdys because they were able to find your video after watching an elaborate joke (including me)
this was really cool! I am a fan of brian's so that's what brought me here but I have also played in symphony orchestras that have brought in solo hurdy gurdy players so they've been on my radar, so to speak. I love the insight into his playing and compliments on his melodies. Very impressed you could spot dorian so quickly, I aspire to that aural skill level :)
As somebody who has wanted to learn the hurdy gurdy for ages and is also a fan of BDG, I am delighted by this video 😂 Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I always loved the hurdy gurdy but never knew much about it. As a fan of both the instrument and Brian this was a both great video and a really in depth breakdown!
No shade detected, in fact some really solid advice for someone else looking to buy. That point about the hand clearance around the nut seems like a key point when looking to buy as a beginner.
That etsy wizard scammed brian
A chromebook for a thousand dollar anything sounds like Brian was doing the scamming no matter how mediocre the gurdy.
To be fair, picking a subpar version of an instrument is completely in tune with BDG's schtick.
@@KennethWestervelt It is? Of what other instruments he has the subpar versions?
@@MrRtkwe But he clearly didn't just trade the chromebook, he traded his very concept of laptops
@@craazyy1 Only when not looking at one it seems. He can still use them, though shopping for a new one could get tricky...
It's even funnier knowing that he pawned his roommate's laptop for a BAD hurdygurdy
Thats his girlfriend
No that’s Karen Han, his roommate and also coworker
Edit: also girlfriend peachyari is right
@@kittymarie397 even better
Everyone knows not to trust a shifty wizard like that.
I think that’s the joke
So you're saying Brian should have traded TWO laptops to get a proper hurdy gurdy?
I smell a sequel!
What is a laptop? I've only heard of books forged in chrome
If a chromebook (based on the laziest search of the avg cost of one) is one-third-to-half the value of a suspicious wizard's hurdy gurdy, and a proper hurdy gurdy costs (perhaps??) more than twice as much as the one BDG got, then perhaps he would have had to trade FOUR to SIX or MORE books forged in chrome for a substantial hurdy gurdy
Worth it tho
Omg I can relate to this so much! I‘ve been hanging around that site for months now, looking at pictures and comments on harmonicas, not buying the one I want (or anything at all) because student money :(
“12 verses, that’s nothing” 😳
I consider 14 verses medium length 🙈😂
Reminds me of the name of the wind
tam lin has 300 verses I think
Wow, not only did Brian get tricked into trading away his knowledge of what a laptop is, but he didn't even get a very good hurdy gurdy for it
Fuckin faires man
and that’s why you don’t get a hurdy gurdy from a deals wizard
J Walter Weatherman is nothing if not adaptable
He should’ve gotten it from Garfield the Deals Warlock
GARFIELD??
@@ASeed17 thE DEEEEEEAAAAAALLLLS WARLOCK
Did... did he perhaps get it from Garfield the Deals Warlock?
This is a next-level niche video.
And I haven't even discussed the tonality of different kinds of cotton yet 😉
still gets recommended to everyone because of the a l g o r i t h m
al gore invented the algorithm
and yet it is exactly my niche, the universe continues to serve me and me alone
Just adding my comment to all of the other BDG fans who found this by chance, found it very informative and interesting and really wants BDG to see this, if only to give him another reason to release all twelve verses
COLLAB VIDEO
I dont really need him to release them. I mean, I got the gist of it through context
I dont really need him to release them. I mean, I got the gist of it through context
@@danielslovak9736 I'm aware, this is not about understanding the story but about having more of the song to listen to because I enjoyed it
@@danielslovak9736 But I must know how he came to converse with this wizard. For all that we know is he saw a wizard, then a time later the wizard offered his treasure
Brian is in a folk-rock band called The Altogether so that’s probably how he was able to get the folk vibe so spot on.
That must be it! 😃 I should look that up.
Wow I had no idea, but I am not remotely surprised!
He is? Wow interesting
@@TheTrueFeetMan its so good i vibe with it so hard
Wait really
He’s in a band?
Not a hurdy-gurdy player but my thoughts on the tone of his instrument is that I think the instrument given to you by a strange wizard hanging out in central park who steals your knowledge of what a laptop is, so that you'll trade it to him should sound at least a little bit like an unholy abomination. It's an infernal instrument from an infernal being.
This
Hear me out, a warlock would be more likely to give you an infernal instrument as wizards often don’t make pacts with devils and demons
"sorry for getting technical" i could listen to your hurdy gurdy knowledge for hours pls dont worry
Aw, thank you! :D
@@Folkskelet
I love how polite she is like she doesn’t want the hurdy gurdy’s feelings
She doesnt want to hurty the hurdy gurdy
I didn’t quite understand the tone comment until you played it on your instrument and it sounded so crisp and strong, wow!
I came across this video randomly because I am a fan of Brian's. I thought what you had to say was super interesting! Not only did you know the exact kind of hurdy gurdy Brian had bought but you broke down what made playing that particular hurdy gurdy difficult. I would love to learn how to play this lovely instrument one day and am glad to have found your channel.
That is really kind, thank you! :D
Agreed, very clear on how that cap would get in the way
I'm also in the camp of people who want to learn to play the hurdy-gurdy, and who are appreciative to know what to look for in a suitable beginner's piece! Thank you for your excellent insight, Folkskelet!
WHat I think is also funny is that there were people in the comment section the day it came out going "dude that instrument sucks ass"
"it costs about a thousand euro" so brian is RICH rich i get it
Fun fact! hurdy gurdy players are not rich. We are just really obsessed save for several years. :-P
No, he pawned a Chromebook for it.
did you listen to the song?
"I granted the wizard a book forged in chrome" he pawned off a chromebook
just buy his bed though, ain't nothin' bad ever happened on this bed
Haha, Brian is not rich, he is just a compulsive individual who spends his extra money on instruments he rarely plays. If you want a better idea of his financial situation, watch his video on when Mario can retire.
Somewhere there's a wizard version of Folkskelet saying "Yeah this chromebook is a pretty common one you can get by scamming a dude looking for a hurdy gurdy. It's alright for a first laptop but it has some issues."
I already like wizard me. 😂
@@Folkskelet The two of you are pretty similar bar the floppy hat and wizard beard :)
Also, this was such a cool video! I'm really into sound design and I love finding out about niche instruments, so when I saw the hurdy gurdy in Brian's vid i was intrigued. Getting to hear an experienced opinion on the instrument, as well as the ways the design of the instrument has been refined to produce clear sound and be easy to work was cool
6:40 I think it would be hilariously in-character for Brian to end up with a "Hurdy Gurdy related injury".
The true price to pay was regular blood letting 😉
Sigh, I guess BDG is now going to pawn his OWN book of chrome to get a proper gurdy 😔
If he hits me up, I'll find him a trustworthy wizard. 😉👌
Maybe the tale is unfinished and this quest for a proper gurdy is the other 15 verse. Maybe we will get a good ending after all 😌
Me not knowing anything about herdy-gerdies: "Wow bdg is a real idiot for buying one from etsy"
you just in general shouldn't be buying instruments from etsy unless you can track down the brand elsewhere, you don't know where they come from or who really makes them. A lot of folk instruments have the same issues!
@@slithra227 But at least with this specific gurdy (and some knowledge about gurdys) you can fix almost all the issues. Well, except for the biggest one: it has no dogs.
@@publicvoidmain Can't fix them without replacing nearly the entire thing. There's no adjustment that fixes a poorly constructed instrument body.
@@sweetcrispyjesus1511 I actually bought one of the Workshop Medieval instruments for getting at least used to the mechanics while waiting for my professionally built gurdy. When I took it to my luthier for some adjustments, she was genuinely amazed by the sound of the instrument. There are, of course, a few issues with it, but soundwise it beats many other instruments out there by miles. The instrument is all in all no match for my trusty Phoenix Abraxas, of course, but it actually has its uses.
Please help convince Brian to make the full 12+ verse version
1000€?? Noww I get the whole "selling a laptop to get a Hurdy Gurdy" thing
Why am I seeing so much Hurdy Gurdy content? I'm not complaining, I just didn't expect all this hurdy gurdy content this year.
People are SO bored by now
It is the Era Of The Hurdy Gurdy
Funny name and makes nice sounds! What’s not to love
These are stange times, as they say
This is the decade of folk! THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN!!! ARM YOURSELVES, CHILDREN OF WHEEL AND STRING!!! MAY OUR WOOD AND RESOLVE N'ER WARP FROM THE COLD OBSCURING MISTS OF UNCERTAINTY!!!
the fond laughter at Dorian mode gave me a laugh, but the education about an instrument I have no experience with whatsoever kept me watching. Very cool to learn about the desired tonality and technique.
3:48
I CANNOT believe Brian got SCAMMED by a WIZARD. 2020 is truly a GARBAGE year.
im still laughing tho at "do you have to sing the story?" "yes"
I do wish it was a better gurdy tho :(
The chuckle when you say "Dorian" made the video for me. Ha ha ha ha
Haha. 🤗 But seriously though, if you look at old folk tunes, there is so much Dorian mode. I loved that he included that detail, it is such a well done video.
For real. I mean, I was already feeling it, but that little moment gave me a full-body smile!
In another video of Brian David Gilbert's, he mentions working for a man named Dorian Smiles. I wonder if there's any relation there.
@@TheMeeploo there is a theory connecting all the demons Brian has encountered, mentioning how maybe Dorian Smiles already has an influence over him at the time of this video, or maybe connecting him to the wizard
I saw this video pop up when I went back to search for Brian's video again, and this was so fantastically interesting! I know next to nothing about hurdy gurdies - I never would have even considered that something so seemingly innocuous as a cap nut would have such an impact on the practicality of playing the instrument! Excellent video.
Also seeing you immediately play his melody by ear and go, "Heh... dorian." made my day :D
Gurdies are VERY intricate instruments with so many bits to them that can go horribly wrong. Its kind of incredible sometimes how small a thing can throw the whole thing out
What is Dorian, exactly? 🤔
"You won't believe the number of ballads I've sung, you know with 27 verses with the main character dying over the course of half the song, it's amazing I love it"
Subscribed.
Lol. That was easily the best comment
Fan of Brian's, found this through search. This was well-made and informative, thank you :)
(Also, shocked and impressed that you knew the model by looking at it. Wow!)
Thank you!! ^_^
I’m going to assume that there aren’t many craftsman/companies making various models that aren’t custom build to order.
@@JurrevanHerwijnen The nerdy gurdy and the hurdy gurdy sold by Thomann but that is one by Karl Riedel and you're better of ordering directly from him as it saves you about 600,- (Thomann margin)
But yes, there is no factory made segment. The hurdy gurdy is too niche for the investment in a factory and you can't actually cut out people from that much of the building process.
So yes. Circa 100 craftsmen worldwide. Most work with a catalogue but it will be made to order.
well i’ve ended up on hurdy gurdy youtube. huh
Just tweeted this at Brian
So this is a hurdy gurdy player.
Edit: Also side note, I somehow was recommended this video despite not knowing who the guy youre talking about is. I've never seen his videos.
So maybe you hit the algorithm with this one. Hope your channel blows up and would love to see mory hot gurdy content.
Thank you! I will definitely keep making videos. 🤗 Interesting how the algorithm works, I thought it only offered it to BDG fans but apparently it is bigger. Regardless, I appreciate it. Cheers! 🙋🏻♀️
Absolutely lovely. As both a BDG and hurdy gurdy enthusiast, this was exceptionally insightful. Love the rest of your content too! Would you ever consider doing any videos on the style of playing that the French performer Guilhelm Desq does?
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
About Guilhem Desq: do you mean you want me to analyse what he is doing or something? Technique and gear? I can already tell you he is a lot better than I am 😅
i must say, as a music student/obscure instrument enthusiast AND a simp for BDG, this video is [chef's kiss] stunning
i came here expecting just like laughing over his video. i did not expect to learn about hurdy gurdy technique and culture and i adore it
♬ "NOW YOU KNOW" said the Hurdy-Gurdy player ♬
The fact that the hurdy-gurdy isn't even that good just adds to the lore and makes it even better lol. I'm so glad I found your channel, instantly subbed!
3:56 “Dorian”
It’s not much but I’m always impressed by how many instrument players are well versed in musical knowledge, when technically you don’t necessarily need to know one to do the other
*Seeing the title* What reaction could you possible have other than laughing?
*After watching the video* Joins the facebook group and starts budgeting 3K for the perfect hurdy
I love love love hearing experts talking about their expertise. It’s amazing that you could identify the exact model he had after a glance at one corner of it.
Hope you plan to make a cover of his song
Haha! I wasn't planning to but if Brian releases all 12 verses, who knows ;-)
@@FolkskeletAnother reason for him to release them then!
#ReleaseTheGilbertCut
@@Folkskelet lmao in the comments section of that video someone wrote the rest of the verses. Yknow. If you were wondering.
Hello! I am a BDG fan (as many here are, apparently) and was drawn in by the fact that there is actually a *community* based around the hurdy-gurdy, which surprised and intrigued me. You are very kind with your commentary and knowledgeable on the subject, so thank you for making this video! You've earned a subscriber!
I think bdg actually likes the tone it has, (I think??), though, because it has this very final fantasy crystal chronicles vibe to it, and that's probably one of the reasons he wanted a hurdy gurdy in the first place?
Also, great video, I really enjoyed it! It was really nice hearing your thoughts and explanations, and the way you put it and reacted made it all pretty entertaining. You have very expressive faces, it's great. Good content, thank you!
This was really informative! Now I gotta find these incredibly long ballads!
I hope many more find you through the algorithm like I did!
Thank you!
I adore big ballads, they were like exciting and epic entertainment before there were books and movies.
One of my favourites is Matty Groves. Fairport convention edited it down to 18 verses but the original had 29. Garmarna has some older albums with long epic songs and absolute peak drama is the Highwayman by Loreena McKennit. I did a Dutch classic with my band called Heer Halewijn (Lord Halewijn) we edited it down to the bare minimum needed to make the song make sense and still ended up with a 7 minute song. 🤣
This video was very interesting and informative! Loved the comparision between the song in the video and you playing part of it.
Also, whilst I assume this wasnt part of the joke, the fact that, in the song he pawned a laptop (and presumably his knowledge of what a laptop is) for a sub par hurdy gurdy adds an extra layer of comedy to it.
Great video!
This video has an insane amount of just general niceness and genuine helpfulness and I'm just very glad to have seen something so nice on the internet today
As someone who's a big BDG fan, I really appreciate this response!! It was really cool to listen to someone who knows a lot about this instrument respond to the video. I don't think you threw any shade. :) But now that you've pointed out the problems with the particular instrument he bought, I really hope he's able to either modify it or otherwise make it work without hurting himself. D:
Also boy howdy I'm now very curious about hurdy gurdy stuff and will definitely check out more of your videos! :D
I loved the part about twelve verses. One of my favorite songs of all time is The Swindlers Ballad by Worldwide Adventures and it’s like half an hour long and has four sections where the main characters die, go to hell, and overthrow Davy Jones to sail to Fiddlers Green on the ship that would never set sail. It is glorious.
I’m a BDG fan and found this video, very interesting and informative!
Hi.
Was a concert cellist for 7 years.
I know what you mean about tone.
I also understand the appeal of a janky sounding instrument i.e. noisy key boxes and buzzing strings. Depends on for what one is going.
Oh definitely! Not everything needs the extremely refined, creamy sound. There is enormous variety in gurdy sounds. Personally I do really differentiate between the rustic "janky" sounds and the sounds that indicate it isn't working correctly. But I do agree with you.
@@Folkskelet Oh you responded personally! Thank you so much!
It's nice to be recognised.
I confess, I've not seen many of your videos as TH-cam has a way of providing so much...and I tend to lean towards metal covers...but I'm gonna binge your channel a bit now.
Oh... wow. So I came here because it's you and I love your videos, and after the first few bars of the song I went and found the original and watched that, and then came back here to watch the rest of your take.
I love how clear but kind you are in your dissection of this gurdy, this sweet guy's playing, and your way of describing how to get correct right hand position. It's really awful that it would likely be quite painful to use that crank correctly so it forces a player into an all-wrong position that might be quite difficult to correct later. I actually really like the video in terms of concept, writing, singing, all of it- except that gurdy! Brian does make it sound fairly decent, all things considered, but still. I love your analogy of buying a guitar with the frets in the wrong place, by the way- that's so useful and I will be using it in my own attempts to get folks up to speed on why even a beginner needs a certain level of quality in their instrument!
Thank you so much! ♥️
@@Folkskelet Of course!
Yeah, what Felicia said!
@@hurdygurdyguy1 Aw!
So if one did hypothetically want to get their hands on one, where would be the best place to buy one? What is a reasonable price for a beginner one?
She's got a video on how to buy a cheap gurdy!
@@amandajoy8947 oh nice
Yes, I made a video but I think I will do one and dive a little deeper into it
At LEAST a COUPLE laptops
What a perfect experience, watch a funny sketch, then watch a reaction that gives some interesting insight into the instrument! Seriously what makes youtube so great!
yeah that dorian mode is very legit. same with the picardy third. he really gets the vibes right
the issues you had with the crank are easily fixable by raising the nob with a longer bolt and a small length of pipe to space it. And the long nut could be completely removed and replaced with an open axel nut and have any excess rod ground down.
She looked at it for 3 seconds and knew it wasn’t a good Hurdy Gurdy
🙈😅
This is the loveliest response video I've ever seen.
this video definitely enriches BDG's original video! good job :D
Your voice is very calm and pleasant to listen to! You had a very good way of explaining the errors as well ^^
Came across this as a fan of Brian's but also as someone potentially interested in buying one of these instruments. What would you say is a good one to look for, since you say the one he has is not a good one to pick?
That actually depends on what you want to do with it and how much you want to spend. It is a non standardized instrument so there is a lot of variety.
What I would recommend is reserving a budget of around the 2.5K to 3K ballpark and shop for a forever gurdy. Get a GOOD and not too complicated gurdy from a really reputable maker. A proven model that you really like. Really research it and see if you and the maker click, see what other players think. 5 or 6 strings. It will not be too overwhelming but complete enough to be a joy to play at any level. Take good care of it and it will barely deprecate if at all. That way you have an amazing handmade gurdy for life and if you don't take to it or if you want to sell to reinvest in an upgrade, you will barely lose any money because the demand for well made and not too costly gurdies is really high.
A nerdy gurdy can be good to dip your toes for a small fee and can be a good alternative to survive the waitlist. If you build the kit yourself, you can be done for a couple hundred.
You can also do it for a budget in the 800 to 2000,- if you are willing to compromise and take a lot of care because that is the price range where items like this Etsy gurdy sit.
I made a long list of gurdies under 2K, it is in the Hurdy Gurdy community on Facebook.
Best thing to do is be patient and really research. I hope that helps!
I kinda like the almost bagpipey quality pf his herdie, but of course I don't know what the instrument is supposed to sound like
"twelve - oh God, twelve verses that's nothing" HAHA you made me laugh out loud 🤣
Man, I want my life to include regularly browsing the TH-cam for new hurdy gurdy videos
This is a really cool and kind video that I really enjoyed watching! I hope Brian sees it and I can't wait to check out the rest of your videos!
I'm learning an instrument (flute) for the first time and I made a poor choice buying it... it was actually helpful to notice that the trouble I had playing it was down to the instrument, not me! So I didn't blame myself for struggling. I hope anyone who watches this who had a similar situation feels reassured in the same way, and I hope Brian can get a better hurdy gurdy if he's interested in learning! Great video :-)
Thank you so much!
Yes, having an instrument that does not work properly makes the learning process so difficult. :-(
I came here right after watching BDG's latest video, so needless to say I fuckin PANICKED when she just muttered "Dorian" under her breath at 3:55
but, have you seen my laptop?
I am obsessed with Hurdy Gurdys and love listening to them. I follow Brian so likely found your channel on that link. Its great to hear the technical parts, and you made it informative which kept it interesting. I was looking to buy one (I live in the UK) and as its a niche instrument, I accepted it will be expensive, so thanks for providing the cautions on the Etsy version. It would be brill to know if there's a good value for money option which will be reliable. I'm not looking for cheapest but would still like to spend as little as possible, without buying an inferior product (that budget sweet spot). Would be nice to see future videos on more technical things and explanations of how it works, and why parts are made a specific way :)
Thank you!! Yes, there definitely are reliable and more affordable options. I have made a big list of decent gurdies under 2K, that is in the Hurdy gurdy community on Facebook. In the UK I totally recommend Chris Allen & Sabina Kormylo. They are the makers of my hurdy gurdy and they are very, very good. Their instruments are very refined, light and sweet players. The symfonie (medieval box shaped) starts at 1200,- pounds and their other gurdies start at 2000,- pounds I think.
I can imagine those numbers look a bit terrifying though, so have a look at the other list and see if there is something you really love. It is a big stack of money regardless, so take your time.
I am planning other videos so I'll see if I can do a technical deep dive :)
What a nice (and informative!) reaction video. So cool to learn about what made the one BDG chose particularly hard to play. And learning he got scammed by an Etsy wizard was a great bonus--feels extremely on brand
'dorian style'
the absolute genius of this man
Great video, super interesting! Did just want to let you know that Brian didn't buy the hurdy gurdy off etsy, he mentioned on his podcast that he actually got it custom made.
Edit: He talks abt it in Let's Make a Music ep 6 (flailing around) around the 3:00 minute mark.
I love this! You explained really well the technical aspects of the hurdy gurdy and I feel smarter just from watching this lol, thank you for sharing your expertise!!
this video brought me joy. i really hope bdg has/will see this
I'm so glad you showed up in my algorithm!! I can't believe my interests in historical performance and Brian David Gilbert have collided in this way...
I genuinely love that a channel like yours can exist on the internet, and I'm glad to see that thousands of people now know a bit more about hurdy-gurdys because they were able to find your video after watching an elaborate joke (including me)
You have such a nice energy around you, I’m happy I stumbled across this video!
With the context of a bunch of Brian's later videos about birds, I'm impressed that you commented on the birds without that context!
Absolutely delighted you made this video, thank you for your expertise!
My pleasure!
Huh. The first time the algorithm actually recommended something I'm interested in hearing about. Nice!
this was really cool! I am a fan of brian's so that's what brought me here but I have also played in symphony orchestras that have brought in solo hurdy gurdy players so they've been on my radar, so to speak. I love the insight into his playing and compliments on his melodies. Very impressed you could spot dorian so quickly, I aspire to that aural skill level :)
As somebody who has wanted to learn the hurdy gurdy for ages and is also a fan of BDG, I am delighted by this video 😂 Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
TH-cam recommended me this video, so you're a part of their algorithms now
I am... It is both exciting and absolutely terrifying. 😂 Thanks for being here!
I'm just happy that a hurdy gurdy player swears in the description.
This started as a meme now I'm passionate about hurdy gurdies and popular folklore music, subbed with notifications
fan of bdg and I'm hoping very hard that he finds this!
"i am going to get a bit technical" HELL YEAH DETAILS ALL MY HOMIES LOVE RANDOM INFORMATION
I’m so glad I came across this video! I want to check out some of your performances. I think the instrument sounds so beautiful.
Welp, looks like I’m spending my day browsing hurdy gurdy TH-cam instead of anything useful today. And I am thrilled about that.
I enjoyed Brian’s video a lot. I’ve listened to it like 7 times. I also really enjoyed this view a lot. This is my 3rd listen
I’m so happy you have come across his “expertise”, for he makes me laugh
Now we need a 'Laptop user responds to Brian David Gilbert: "have you seen my laptop?"'
i wasnt aware that i needed hurdygurdy content in my life but im here for it lmao
Thank you for sharing your knowledge abt hurdy gurdies in response to brian’s video, this was a delight
this is the prime Brian David Gilbert analysis I like to see in the world
I always loved the hurdy gurdy but never knew much about it. As a fan of both the instrument and Brian this was a both great video and a really in depth breakdown!
No shade detected, in fact some really solid advice for someone else looking to buy. That point about the hand clearance around the nut seems like a key point when looking to buy as a beginner.
The way she says Hurdy Gurdy, is just great
I'm so glad you made this video I learned so much!
oh my gosh this was absolutely LOVELY to watch aaaaa!!!
This was an extremely charming and informative video. Love your energy and your other videos as well!
i'm so happy youtube suggested this to me after seeing have you seen my laptop