I really like the new format integrating the MPG and off-road reviews together. I think that a car shopper would really appreciate all that info in one video.
+Invincible Osprey Except the fact that the way it's edited makes you wonder if the off-road portion is part of the mpg test. I'm pretty sure it's not, based on all of your previous videos..? The casual viewer may not be able to discern these are two separate tests. Not a criticism, just a suggestion to mention that the off-road part wasn't part of the mpg test.
Soo nice to see you guys actually saying, "wrong tires for the job" and "if you are going to do this, you should have a dedicated snow tire." Thanks for stepping up your game... and maybe even saving a life.
I'm surprised it even got up that far with the highway tires they have on! My question is, why on earth would Toyota put those tires on such an off road tough made truck? Put some BF Goodrich AT KO2 on her and she'll climb like a homesick angel!!
When you're slogging across the arse end of nowhere, and your life depends on your motor being reliable, that's where you see people driving Toyota Land Cruisers.
+MrKeyboardCommando According to Doug Demuro all Range Rover owners secretly want to be Land Cruiser owners...but they like the creature comforts of a RR.
+MrKeyboardCommando Like the Hummer was? I live in Colorado, and each time I see a Hummer I have to wonder about the person driving it. I also give them wide birth. I'm still driving a 4Runner, which is now 10 years old. I have never had an issue, and I go up mountain roads without worry. Who wants to wake up at 12k ft atop a mountain to find their beloved yuppiemobile won't start? Or as with the new Jeep Cherokee, go into gear? Toyota gets a lot of heat for not going to transmissions with a higher number of gears sooner, but Jeep is learning the hard way the error of rushing out an untested platform. 9 speeds that don't work are not preferable to 5 that do. I've heard stories of people having the 9-speed replaced 4 times before they give up and trade it in. Jeep won't even recognize the lemon law on these things.
Great format for the review looking forward to the next reviews on suvs and trucks. I hope the views enjoyed it as much as i did. much better than having them separately.
Big Beautiful SUV. Nice interior. This thing with big offroad tires. Unstopppable. Well worth the money This is the car you want to have when shit hits the fan.
I remember my parents buying a Yukon back in 2008. It had so many problems GM had to buy it back. They went for a 2008 Land Cruiser and they couldn't have made a better choice. 340k miles and runs great. Now I use it to go off road and it's a beast. Love it how may friends wranglers break all the time and this beast just keeps on going weekend after weekend.
TFL Truck I like this format, I like the real world mpg testing and you threw in the off road capabilities. Maybe in the middle of the off roading you could do a check up of the guys on the 100 mile loop. Good job guys.
like the part were the truck is going up and the camera man is running behind, that is an A+ for effort, the outcome shoot was fantastic even when running.
Yep. Those are what I put on my 2013 a few months ago. So far I am loving them in the snow. You take a hit of around 0.2 mpg in mixed driving. Road noise is just a little more than stock and you can only hear it when you really try to.
Thank you for doing this review, it was amazing! Could u do a review of the all new 2016 Lexus lx 570 and show the difference between the land cruiser and the lx
I love watching your videos. Especially these goldmine videos. Only thing I ask is if you could be a little more clear when the vehicle finishes stage 1,2,3. It becomes a little confusing to decipher which stage it is completing. Thanks for the great video guys and keep them coming.
I have a '13 LX570 basically the same as the Land Cruiser and the most I've ever gotten on the highway is 17.1mpg at a steady 70mph with the six-speed auto, so it appears the 8-speed auto improves mpg up to 2mpg better. That's impressive!!
My aunt has an old land cruiser probably a 1990 or around there and that thing has over 200,000 miles on it and lots of adventuring trips off road and such on it. It is still reliable and it still runs perfectly and now with the problems she is having it is sitting outside in her front yard without maintenance for 90% of the year. I haven't driven it but I must say it is high quality.
Can you guys do a time lapse video of the whole trip up Gold Mine hill with some commentary? That would give viewers better context of how hard this trail is.
Great vehicle, great review and great channel. Nathan, I would have liked to hear the rest of your statement before you got interrupted at 1:25 about filling gas in summer. Thx guys!
This video was great. Wish I could afford a Land Cruiser! Leasing a 2018 Outback right now. Even though I can't afford the Land Cruiser, definitely looking forward to getting a 4Runner, especially for the price.
@Randy- how are KO2s on snowy and icy roads? I know they are excellent for gripping and climbing but looking at getting them more so for midwest snowy and blizzard conditions (mostly interstate and on road). Just curious- thanks.
When In brought it for my dad 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser was two trade in old 2006 sequoia and 2013 Tacoma and then I’ll be ready for on July 25th El Paso test mpg is hopefully some 20 mpg!!!
swada02 Well hopefully he will let Andrea continue replace him often on video. To me Andra is more about the auto and Roman more about stupid JR high type jokes.Every once in a blue moon Roman will give a good review but Andra seems more consistent.
That would be great but I think it is an emissions thing. I won't be surprised if Toyota installs the Cummings Diesel they plan on installing in the Tundra.
+Retired AF CE whats wierd is when the 5.0 cummins was introduced it was suposed to go in the tundra according to all the talk,but then nissan titan hit the market 1st with the cummins v8,so where is toyota at on that diesel for the tundra now? thats my question.
I have a 2005 Land Cruiser with a 4.7L that has 69,997 miles, bought it new 10.5 years ago. It runs like clockwork. The frame has a touch of rust here and there, the rotors were just replaced along with the belts and battery. Other than that, not a single problem. So heres to another 10 years
lmao I love it the yota did better than the pro 4x titan and I know yall did the test with both on this day you can see the titan in the background in the beginning
hey guys, would appreciate a road test of the similar LX570 and test the practicality and performance and the refinement vs cars like the escalade and Range Rover if possible?
Nice car (truck) but I still can't understand why people in USA don't use winter tires when it's cold and snowing outside. For me it is an obvious procedure - change tyres before winter. And Andrey should know it very well since he is from Russia. So even this test-drive might be finished non optimistic for drivers and cruiser in that forest on summer tyres. So please tell me - winter tyres are common to use or no one heard of them in US even in those states where snow 'n' ice are usual in winter? Sorry for my English.
***** In CA state I also do not see a reason to put on winter tires when there is only rain in winter. But I guess there are a few states in US where roads are coated by the snow during the winter season? And in the news and TH-cam I see that people can't drive and even light snow called snow storm. Mostly because of all season tires. I tried to use that type of tires one season but they are only for summer time and in winter they are really sucks. In this video guys showed that this expensive LC quite weak even on light snow and the reason again those all season tires. Because everyone know that on winter tires like Continental or Nokian this truck would become a Jeep Wrangler in a mud. But on tires from dealer it can't drive even in there where they tested it.
Well in my home state of Kentucky, winters can greatly vary and are very unpredictable. In my region of the state, all season tires are okay year round.
here in the U.S most people with trucks and suv's use all terrain type tires to get the best of both worlds for wet, dry,or snowy surfaces,instead of a dedicated tire 1 way or the other.
In the USA, we have all terrain/all season tires that outperform similarly priced snow tires. IE A $400 set of all seasons generally outperforms a set of $400 snow tires, and you end up not needing two sets. I tried the snow tire route before, there was no benefits over the all seasons I have. In some winter conditions, snow tires were actually worse.
+FCFordLord I think the snow tires are made with a softer rubber similar to off road tires. They are suppose to grip better in snow but usually have poor wet traction performance. We have all season tires on the 4runner and had an unusual heavy snow fall last year and the all season tires performed great, given the fact they had deep tread.
Good video. Can you guys review a 2014 or 2015 with a 6 speed transmission. I'd be interested in the mileage difference over the ~98 miles that you drove with the 8 speed. Thanks.
Fuel economy will vary a lot depending on fuel quality, driver, location, temperature, etc. A guy on a Toyota Tundra forum just threw a transfer case from a land cruiser into his tundra to give the tundra the full time 4WD option as well as the part time 4WD option. I wouldn't really be running that hill with those tires, but it goes to show they are quite capable. Traction control is way too intrusive in these situations, but I can see why it needs to be there for those who can't drive worth crap LOL. I turn the traction control off in my truck whenever I'm in 4WD so I have more control. Trouble is there wasn't an actual fuel economy test, you can't measure fuel economy while playing in the snow LOL.
i didnt know about the temperature difference thing one night when i filled up in my car when a cold front came through, had to wait 5 mins for the fuel to drain out of my 99 altima.
Please, Nathan, finish your thought about why a vehicle holds less gas when the temp is colder. I live in Cincinnati and my Ford Fusion does this, and I am clueless as to why the tank holds more when it's warm and less when it's cold.
Some in the comments saying they wish they would spec with a diesel. Here in the states, that means dealing with diesel exhaust fluid and the diesel particulate filter for emissions. This is nothing but a headache. I’d rather have the 5.7L. It is bulletproof and will give you 300k+ miles of life easily. Keep it simple. Keep it Toyota.
I would love to see the Honda Pilot in these conditions, its that possible? Just to compare the performance on the same trial but with different conditions.
How are we lucky? And speaking on tires, you know whats sad? A G63 AMG comes with Kuhmo tires BRAND NEW!!! I love the G Wagon, and i plan on buying one the day i can afford it, but im going to tell the dealer "uh uh, dont sell me this shit if its going to come with kuhmo's" give me some michelins, pirellis, or bridgestones. Michelins are great for comfort, have the MTX M/S on my trooper and they are great. But if im going to spend $134,000 on a brand new g wagon, I don't want chinese tires
+Frank Magana Kumho's are some of the best tires out there, as far as high end all season and all terrain light truck tires go. I used them on my Impreza (KR21's) and on my '79 Chevy K20 (Road Venture AT, iirc). Both sets outperformed average snow tires. The K20 was used as a plow rig, commercial and residential. Great tires that I would recommend over just about any other brand I have tried.
Think about this: Would you say that it is the tires OR could it be weight? The tires seemed to be cleaning as they should, I have the same tire on my FJ and it hops over similiar bumps in the snow. I'm not defending the tires- just trying to think of the real problem in that STOP/ GO on a snowy hill challenge.
I really like the new format integrating the MPG and off-road reviews together. I think that a car shopper would really appreciate all that info in one video.
+Invincible Osprey Thank you for the feedback!
+Invincible Osprey Except the fact that the way it's edited makes you wonder if the off-road portion is part of the mpg test. I'm pretty sure it's not, based on all of your previous videos..? The casual viewer may not be able to discern these are two separate tests. Not a criticism, just a suggestion to mention that the off-road part wasn't part of the mpg test.
Soo nice to see you guys actually saying, "wrong tires for the job" and "if you are going to do this, you should have a dedicated snow tire." Thanks for stepping up your game... and maybe even saving a life.
the U.S companies can't build anything to compete with a Land Cruiser
nothing can compete with the land cruiser lol
There is like 2 other vehicle from top of my head that can compete with that and one of them is from toyota as well
guy proulx jeep wrangler Rubicon
Badfish89 can the Jeep compete with the reliability of the Land Cruiser
I don't think Jeep and reliability goes together
Loyal to Land Cruiser! Don't know what I'd do without my 1999 Toyota Land Cruiser. Once you go Land Cruiser, it's hard to leave!
I'm surprised it even got up that far with the highway tires they have on! My question is, why on earth would Toyota put those tires on such an off road tough made truck? Put some BF Goodrich AT KO2 on her and she'll climb like a homesick angel!!
Lol Nathan “floor it until you dig yourself in and THEN use crawl control and complain it doesn’t work” Adlen 🤣🙌
We have a 2014. It is awesome! We drove it 4000 miles to Alaska pulling a 14 foot trailer. I was going 50 mph up 5% grades with a loaded trailer.
Really good video TFL, I love the Gold Mine Hill section! Please keep them coming too!
I gotta say you guys at TFL are firing on all cylinders... Really comprehensive video with tons of valuable info!!!
When you're slogging across the arse end of nowhere, and your life depends on your motor being reliable, that's where you see people driving Toyota Land Cruisers.
+MrKeyboardCommando According to Doug Demuro all Range Rover owners secretly want to be Land Cruiser owners...but they like the creature comforts of a RR.
+Invincible Osprey I doubt that the majority of Range Rover owners even know there's such a thing as a Land Cruiser.
MrKeyboardCommando
You may have a point. I read somewhere that the number one market for Range Rovers is...NEW YORK CITY. Unbelievable.
Invincible Osprey Range Rovers are, first and foremost, a highly desirable fashion item. Their on, and off, road ability is totally irrelevant.
+MrKeyboardCommando Like the Hummer was? I live in Colorado, and each time I see a Hummer I have to wonder about the person driving it. I also give them wide birth. I'm still driving a 4Runner, which is now 10 years old. I have never had an issue, and I go up mountain roads without worry. Who wants to wake up at 12k ft atop a mountain to find their beloved yuppiemobile won't start? Or as with the new Jeep Cherokee, go into gear? Toyota gets a lot of heat for not going to transmissions with a higher number of gears sooner, but Jeep is learning the hard way the error of rushing out an untested platform. 9 speeds that don't work are not preferable to 5 that do. I've heard stories of people having the 9-speed replaced 4 times before they give up and trade it in. Jeep won't even recognize the lemon law on these things.
Great format for the review looking forward to the next reviews on suvs and trucks. I hope the views enjoyed it as much as i did. much better than having them separately.
Your videos are much better these days compared to some of your earlier ones. Cheers.
Andre you are stepping your hosting up big time!
Tires are SO important particularly in snow. Thank you for continually reiterating that. 👍
Love the 2 in 1 format and editing! Can't wait for more 2016 Tacoma videos, even though I have one in my garage!!
+Terry Torancis Khuu Same here...about the reviews that is.
+Terry Torancis Khuu Thank you for the feedback!
The best channel for truck reviews reviwing the best truck on earth!
Good work guys - love this format!
land cruiser is one of legendary off road SUV Toyota made, its same as lexus Lx, but Lexus is more luxury.
I love this new style! this video was so good. Maybe wouldn't of minded some in vehicle content during the mpg but it's no big deal.
Big Beautiful SUV. Nice interior. This thing with big offroad tires. Unstopppable. Well worth the money
This is the car you want to have when shit hits the fan.
A off-road comparison of the Toyota Land Cruiser with others in its segment would be a great video!
Now that's one good looking truck/SUV.
Love the Landcruiser!
Love how they brought back the FJ80 format with the headlights, and "repurposed" the taillights from the 2013-2015 LX 570. Favorite Land Cruiser
I remember my parents buying a Yukon back in 2008. It had so many problems GM had to buy it back. They went for a 2008 Land Cruiser and they couldn't have made a better choice. 340k miles and runs great. Now I use it to go off road and it's a beast. Love it how may friends wranglers break all the time and this beast just keeps on going weekend after weekend.
Thanks for the video. Like the Land Cruisers especially the older models.
TFL Truck I like this format, I like the real world mpg testing and you threw in the off road capabilities. Maybe in the middle of the off roading you could do a check up of the guys on the 100 mile loop. Good job guys.
I miss my 97' Land Cruiser. Would love to own one again.
great review dr.robotnik
you guys are the best keep up the great work!!!!
like the part were the truck is going up and the camera man is running behind, that is an A+ for effort, the outcome shoot was fantastic even when running.
Wow, with a set of B. F. Goodrich AT/KO2's it would rock that hill. Great test and Happy New Year!
Most definitely.
With those tires, it would annihilate that hill!!
Yep. Those are what I put on my 2013 a few months ago. So far I am loving them in the snow. You take a hit of around 0.2 mpg in mixed driving. Road noise is just a little more than stock and you can only hear it when you really try to.
+Lance Feagan My truck is straight piped, who cares about road noise? Those are definitely the next set of tires I'm owning.
I've got KO2's on my ram, 👌
Thank you for doing this review, it was amazing! Could u do a review of the all new 2016 Lexus lx 570 and show the difference between the land cruiser and the lx
Not too many vehicles left that provide full gauges any more, glad to see Toyota keeps doing so in their full size SUVs and trucks.
I love watching your videos. Especially these goldmine videos. Only thing I ask is if you could be a little more clear when the vehicle finishes stage 1,2,3. It becomes a little confusing to decipher which stage it is completing. Thanks for the great video guys and keep them coming.
Shower time guys!!
Lunch, coffee, and shower. Winner of the trucker combo.
I have a '13 LX570 basically the same as the Land Cruiser and the most I've ever gotten on the highway is 17.1mpg at a steady 70mph with the six-speed auto, so it appears the 8-speed auto improves mpg up to 2mpg better. That's impressive!!
well its basically the same engine so in theory you can buy the new 8speed transmission and install it in your SUV
Best car on the planet hands down
My aunt has an old land cruiser probably a 1990 or around there and that thing has over 200,000 miles on it and lots of adventuring trips off road and such on it. It is still reliable and it still runs perfectly and now with the problems she is having it is sitting outside in her front yard without maintenance for 90% of the year. I haven't driven it but I must say it is high quality.
once you do maintenance and not try to kill it, it will last a million miles without a problem...
Most things last 200,000 miles it not unheard of for volvos, volkswagens and some toyotas to happily walk past 1 million
great review 👍
Can you guys do a time lapse video of the whole trip up Gold Mine hill with some commentary? That would give viewers better context of how hard this trail is.
Great vehicle, great review and great channel. Nathan, I would have liked to hear the rest of your statement before you got interrupted at 1:25 about filling gas in summer. Thx guys!
This video was great. Wish I could afford a Land Cruiser! Leasing a 2018 Outback right now. Even though I can't afford the Land Cruiser, definitely looking forward to getting a 4Runner, especially for the price.
I have a 2016 Landcruiser with BFG KO 2s on it. It will go anywhere.
@Randy- how are KO2s on snowy and icy roads? I know they are excellent for gripping and climbing but looking at getting them more so for midwest snowy and blizzard conditions (mostly interstate and on road). Just curious- thanks.
Oh, my G37Xs does 19mpg. Can't believe a V8 SUV can also do 19mpg. Even they are highway miles, it is still impressive!
When In brought it for my dad 2019 Toyota Land Cruiser was two trade in old 2006 sequoia and 2013 Tacoma and then I’ll be ready for on July 25th El Paso test mpg is hopefully some 20 mpg!!!
wow thats great mpg for what it is go Toyota!!!
I gotta say Andrea is an improvement over Roman!
+T Ritchie LOL Its Romans channel
swada02
Well hopefully he will let Andrea continue replace him often on video. To me Andra is more about the auto and Roman more about stupid JR high type jokes.Every once in a blue moon Roman will give a good review but Andra seems more consistent.
Haha
es una land cruiser...que esperaban....lo mejor de lo mejor
They should get the twin turbo diesel that we have in Australia
That would be great but I think it is an emissions thing. I won't be surprised if Toyota installs the Cummings Diesel they plan on installing in the Tundra.
+Retired AF CE it's cummins there is no damn g in it.
Ivy Wells spell check. I sincerely apologize for the spelling mistake.
+Ben Flood That would be amazing but they won't sell them here. Just this year we finally got the Range Rover with a diesel.
+Retired AF CE whats wierd is when the 5.0 cummins was introduced it was suposed to go in the tundra according to all the talk,but then nissan titan hit the market 1st with the cummins v8,so where is toyota at on that diesel for the tundra now? thats my question.
Nomadic fanatic theme song at the beginning of the off road test
I have a 2005 Land Cruiser with a 4.7L that has 69,997 miles, bought it new 10.5 years ago. It runs like clockwork. The frame has a touch of rust here and there, the rotors were just replaced along with the belts and battery. Other than that, not a single problem.
So heres to another 10 years
My dream vehicle.
lmao I love it the yota did better than the pro 4x titan and I know yall did the test with both on this day you can see the titan in the background in the beginning
This is years ago, i wish toyota would see this and start putting on Some great All Terrains stock
Totally agree on tires. Put a set of bfgoodrich all terrains on it and it would be almost unstoppable.
77k Miles on my 2005 and it still runs like a clock!!
hey guys, would appreciate a road test of the similar LX570 and test the practicality and performance and the refinement vs cars like the escalade and Range Rover if possible?
I like your t-shirt Nathan :)))
You guys should do goldmine hill again under normal conditions with the land cruiser.
the key is in the situations where you could get stuck is to NOT STOP
Nice car (truck) but I still can't understand why people in USA don't use winter tires when it's cold and snowing outside. For me it is an obvious procedure - change tyres before winter. And Andrey should know it very well since he is from Russia. So even this test-drive might be finished non optimistic for drivers and cruiser in that forest on summer tyres. So please tell me - winter tyres are common to use or no one heard of them in US even in those states where snow 'n' ice are usual in winter?
Sorry for my English.
***** In CA state I also do not see a reason to put on winter tires when there is only rain in winter. But I guess there are a few states in US where roads are coated by the snow during the winter season? And in the news and TH-cam I see that people can't drive and even light snow called snow storm. Mostly because of all season tires. I tried to use that type of tires one season but they are only for summer time and in winter they are really sucks.
In this video guys showed that this expensive LC quite weak even on light snow and the reason again those all season tires. Because everyone know that on winter tires like Continental or Nokian this truck would become a Jeep Wrangler in a mud. But on tires from dealer it can't drive even in there where they tested it.
Well in my home state of Kentucky, winters can greatly vary and are very unpredictable. In my region of the state, all season tires are okay year round.
here in the U.S most people with trucks and suv's use all terrain type tires to get the best of both worlds for wet, dry,or snowy surfaces,instead of a dedicated tire 1 way or the other.
In the USA, we have all terrain/all season tires that outperform similarly priced snow tires. IE A $400 set of all seasons generally outperforms a set of $400 snow tires, and you end up not needing two sets.
I tried the snow tire route before, there was no benefits over the all seasons I have. In some winter conditions, snow tires were actually worse.
+FCFordLord I think the snow tires are made with a softer rubber similar to off road tires. They are suppose to grip better in snow but usually have poor wet traction performance. We have all season tires on the 4runner and had an unusual heavy snow fall last year and the all season tires performed great, given the fact they had deep tread.
Good video. Can you guys review a 2014 or 2015 with a 6 speed transmission. I'd be interested in the mileage difference over the ~98 miles that you drove with the 8 speed. Thanks.
nice as compared to previous land cruiser
You guys need to update your website with a summary list of these tests. Please? :-)
Nice vehicle
The guys are right. Better tires needs to be on the truck. Its an excellent truck. I wish my 80 series got 19 Mpg. But i stil love it
I'm buying one next year!!!!
Hannah Brown
Did you buy one?
Yes, I need to know as well. Did you buy one?
Have you bought one yet
Do people lift this cars like they do with truck? Great review TFL!
DO A 2016 LEXUS LX
isnt the LR4 more of a comparison rather than Discovery sport ?
more off road videos like this
Would be cool if you could have two identical veichles with propper snow tires on one and all seasons on the other.
Nice car
Hey what was Nathan trying to say about fueling up in cold/hot climates before he was cutoff?
Fuel economy will vary a lot depending on fuel quality, driver, location, temperature, etc.
A guy on a Toyota Tundra forum just threw a transfer case from a land cruiser into his tundra to give the tundra the full time 4WD option as well as the part time 4WD option.
I wouldn't really be running that hill with those tires, but it goes to show they are quite capable. Traction control is way too intrusive in these situations, but I can see why it needs to be there for those who can't drive worth crap LOL. I turn the traction control off in my truck whenever I'm in 4WD so I have more control.
Trouble is there wasn't an actual fuel economy test, you can't measure fuel economy while playing in the snow LOL.
You need to get your hands on a Land Cruiser PRADO! :D
Armando Machado nah 200 series is better but the americans have the trash petrol version
Hahaha the poor bloke running behind the car at 3:30 had me cracking up.
TFL, i love your reviews, what cameras do you use?
Sony action cams and other Sony video cameras
+The Fast Lane Truck I see a htc re!
+The Fast Lane Truck Your t-shirt says 'pimp' in russian. Do you know it?
Eugene Stepanov its a picture of andre, they are taking the piss out of him. Quite funny
u can also deflate the tires a bit to get more traction... 18PSI should do it...
tfl. y'all should do a 4runner
Need that 8 speed in the Tundra to make it more competitive.
That Titan XD in the back tho
👍 nice was fun
i didnt know about the temperature difference thing one night when i filled up in my car when a cold front came through, had to wait 5 mins for the fuel to drain out of my 99 altima.
why did you need the fuel to drain out of your Altima?
If only I could afford one!
Хороший выпуск!!! И футболка вообще супер!
Please, Nathan, finish your thought about why a vehicle holds less gas when the temp is colder. I live in Cincinnati and my Ford Fusion does this, and I am clueless as to why the tank holds more when it's warm and less when it's cold.
keep up the great work. The russian is awesome!!
can you guys use situation suited tires to see the systems work with good winter tires?
Some in the comments saying they wish they would spec with a diesel. Here in the states, that means dealing with diesel exhaust fluid and the diesel particulate filter for emissions. This is nothing but a headache. I’d rather have the 5.7L. It is bulletproof and will give you 300k+ miles of life easily. Keep it simple. Keep it Toyota.
I would love to see the Honda Pilot in these conditions, its that possible? Just to compare the performance on the same trial but with different conditions.
You guys finally get the ol'mighty Land Cruiser in the states? Now how lucky can you get!
LC's have always had the most terrible tires from the factory.
Im not sure if you can find worse tires to drive in the snow with.
We've had it for a long time...
+Frank White We've had them for a long time but only with gasoline engines unfortunately.
How are we lucky? And speaking on tires, you know whats sad? A G63 AMG comes with Kuhmo tires BRAND NEW!!! I love the G Wagon, and i plan on buying one the day i can afford it, but im going to tell the dealer "uh uh, dont sell me this shit if its going to come with kuhmo's" give me some michelins, pirellis, or bridgestones. Michelins are great for comfort, have the MTX M/S on my trooper and they are great. But if im going to spend $134,000 on a brand new g wagon, I don't want chinese tires
+Frank Magana Kumho's are some of the best tires out there, as far as high end all season and all terrain light truck tires go.
I used them on my Impreza (KR21's) and on my '79 Chevy K20 (Road Venture AT, iirc). Both sets outperformed average snow tires. The K20 was used as a plow rig, commercial and residential.
Great tires that I would recommend over just about any other brand I have tried.
so good car iloved
Think about this: Would you say that it is the tires OR could it be weight? The tires seemed to be cleaning as they should, I have the same tire on my FJ and it hops over similiar bumps in the snow. I'm not defending the tires- just trying to think of the real problem in that STOP/ GO on a snowy hill challenge.
I'm surprised that even with the crawl control it was stuck. I guess the tires were that bad.
The legend lives on....Just needs better work boots.
Does the CO altitude impact your fuel economy results/projections?
I wish they would bring the 70 series back to the US.