Just a quick note - I revisited the post-mod data and noted a small discrepancy, the first set of mods (panels only) should show 76.9º for the GPU, for the bench including the GPU shift, 74.9º. Still a big improvement, but just wanted to update with this note.
He does a bottom exhaust fan, top exhaust fans, shifts the rad over closer to the cpu side, puts the panels in a diagonal way, moves the gpu closer to the panel, and moved the psu up more with a custom bracket.
This is a great video and exploration of the Q58 modding potential, still relevant in 2025. Thank you! I see the stl for the PSU mod, you’re awesome. Have you any further updates on this setup?
Good modding idea's. This is why i like your channel, your not afraid to do some mods for science sakes 👍. I have this case and love it, im running an overclocked 5600x with the id-cooling is-60 with a new chromax NF-A12x25 and it stays around 65C while gaming. But my poor evga 3080 x3 was getting HOT, throttling unless i cranked up the fans. I got the evga hybrid kit and installed it with two t30 fans. Runs overclocked at around 65c as well, and the system is almost silent. I did have to tape up the air gaps (picked that up from your Meshlicious case review) on the aio mount to help from hot air recirculating because that top panel isn't very breathable. Anywho, great content, your fan reviews and case reviews were a big influence on my build 👍
I would love to see them rework the top panel. I’m running a 5900x and evga 3080ti ftw3 ultra card in the q58 on a 280mm ek aio all 3 fans exhausting. Saw about a 5 degree decrease on cpu and 4 degree decrease on the gpu when I took the the top panel off. Seems like a pretty huge oversight by lian li.
Yeah for sure, I actually ended up designing a new top panel in fusion 360 to 3D print. Just kept the same dimensions but replaced the holes with slots, now I see almost no difference in temps on vs off, definitely worth it.
Any link or file to the psu cage? Really interested in doing this to allow my bottom exhaust fan to breath a bit more and to allow the psu to have access to more fresh air.
Hey! Just binged ur meshlicious videos, and came across this too. Any suggestions on which one to pick or some pros/cons on the both of these? Seriously confused. Thanks for the videos 🙏😁
The ones I have seen have the mesh panels on the bottom and the acrylic up top. That screams to me to use fans up top, set to exhaust, to pull air in from the bottom sides, up and across the components. I don't remember seeing anything vented on the bottom (although I see here that there is some venting there), so this makes the most sense to me. Had MicroCenter had any black in stock, I'd have taken one home today.
Hi, I have this case and can’t understand why lian li didn’t make space for 2 intake fans at bottom of case? Do you think it’s a good idea to attach a second intake fan on outside of pc at bottom. There’s easily enough room for a 15mm thick 120mm fan.
I would love to see you look at the mods available for the Meshlicious! There are a ton of 3D print ones available which include adding extra fans to the GPU side as well as a slim fan on the top. In addition, I believe there is a "mod" where if you block off the airflow from the GPU to the radiator up front with a piece of paper, you can drastically improve CPU thermals. Please take a look!
For my setup in the LL Q58, intel 12700 and rtx 3060ti, am i understanding correctly that there's not a "most optimal" when it comes to setting the top 280 aio as exhaust or intake? and it's really up to me on whether i want to prioritize CPU or GPU temps?
Taking inspiration from your meshlicious modifications, could you do a circular makeshift gasket on the psu, sealing the bottom half of the fan against the glass, top half against the mesh, giving a direct path into the top half of the fan through the mesh and pulling it down into the whole fan
I think it could be done- one additional thought I had was just to completely enclose the GPU in its own chamber by closing off the top and forcing the exhaust through the bottom fan. That way each chamber is optimized.
@@MachinesMore yes! that could be a good idea too!! I just thought your idea of making the "gasket" for the meshlicious was incredibly creative, and it made me think you could do it for the PSU on this case as well. I literally bought an nr200 b/c of you, and 6 weeks later i'm swapping to a mshlicious instead, solely because of your work on them. maybe you should stop making case videos, you're costing me $$ and drawing the ire of my wife :)
I have watched your H20 and Q58 videos multiple times. I am just so torn. I have a Q58 case coming today and H20 (from AliExpress coming 2-3 weeks if not later) . I ordered the Q58 with extra mesh panels so I could have mesh on all 4 sections. I don't know If I should just go for the Q58 or wait for the H20. Do you have any input? which one do you like better? My components are 3070ti FE, 5600x, 240 AIO, 600 SFF, 32gb 3600mhz 16cl, 1TB m2. I have everything but the case LOL. If I go for Q58, I would go for all the mods you did here.
I like the H2O better but both are good, if you’re using a 240 AIO that fits (the pump clearance is low) then I think the H2O is the way to go. For air cooling the Q58 has critically more clearance.
@@MachinesMore thanks bro. I actually ordered it from Ali Express March 3rd and it came here yesterday. I was so shocked! Lastly, is it worth getting the Noctua fans? Do you have cheaper suggestions?
I wonder how much more you would get out of drilling larger holes in the top panel and a 280 rad. I'll be setting up a hwlabs 280 GTS in mine soon. Had to wait forever to get a white one. Wonder how fast I'll have to run the fans to keep water temp in check.
Nice work! Would it be possible to flip the power source 90 degrees so that the power source fan is aligning with either the top or bottom case fans? If so, do you think it would provide any improvement in noise and/or cooling?
With the 3D printed bracket, yes it would, since it doesn't have a solid back. The original/stock one does and that won't work since it would seal off the fan completely. Would it make a difference... I don't think it would be meaningful. One thought is that if it were flipped and took the hotter exhaust on the GPU to cool itself, it might be less effective, but it's not like PSUs need that much cooling. Oversizing it a bit for the build should be sufficient.
Moved my card. Hasn’t even hit 70 since (heavy undervolt) I did notice however that my PCB and backplate REALLY have to squeeze to be able to mount. To the point of there being a slight curve on the card. Are you experiencing the same thing in your build?
I haven’t but if that’s happening then I’d check the position of the riser cable, there is some play there so if you wiggle it a bit to a better position I think it will help.
Nope, the white ones are stock. I didn’t spend too much time organizing it though since it’s going to have to be redone anyway for air cooling testing!
If I were ever able to mod a case. I'd go for trying to make the NR200 a little taller, just enough to fit 2 140s at the bottom and at the top. And I'd like to have a drive cage for 2 2.5" SSDs "hanging" from the PSU. To maximize air cooling and storage capabilities and make the definitive case. Then it would just be missing a USB type-C port. But I that's a little more complicated.
Will do! It’s still a little “beta” since I haven’t had a chance to test it but will put it up on thingiverse shortly- check back in a day or so in the video description!
Did anyone try putting the AIO on intake instead of exhaust? So GPU and AIO intake, to exhast out the mesh panel. The PSU is then somewhat of an issue though. I wish this case wasn't sandwich style, it would be perfect then. Basically a smaller NR200 and thermals could flow bottom to top with no issues of the glass panels being on the top
I tested in my initial review- it’s great for CPU thermals but was unsustainable (topping 90 degrees) for the 3080, granted with a lower powered card it would absolutely be serviceable.
AWSOME MODS...I WENT AIR COOLED WITH A R7 2700...AND A RTX 2060...TOP INTAKE BOTTOM EXHAUST..GREAT TEMPS FOR ME...MESH ON BOTH BOTTOMS..GLASS ON TOPS HELPS CHANNEL AIR TO THE MOBO ...GOT A 3.5IN 4TB HANGING UNDER TOP FANS...2TB BEHIND POWER SUPPLY AND A 500G SSD IN THE FRONT...ITS A GOOD LIL PC.
No idea why they didn't make full mesh on both sides but they came out with this stupid idea. Front panel should be moved up or on the right side, this would make a bit more space for a GPU. Nice case but some strange decisions were made here.
Do you have the ability to print one? I'm finalizing the design (this one is v2), I just wanted to do a longer term test to see how the screw holes hold up and then I'll probably just put it up on Thingiverse.
Just a quick note - I revisited the post-mod data and noted a small discrepancy, the first set of mods (panels only) should show 76.9º for the GPU, for the bench including the GPU shift, 74.9º. Still a big improvement, but just wanted to update with this note.
He does a bottom exhaust fan, top exhaust fans, shifts the rad over closer to the cpu side, puts the panels in a diagonal way, moves the gpu closer to the panel, and moved the psu up more with a custom bracket.
Awesome mods and analysis on the performance effects!
This is a great video and exploration of the Q58 modding potential, still relevant in 2025. Thank you!
I see the stl for the PSU mod, you’re awesome. Have you any further updates on this setup?
Good modding idea's. This is why i like your channel, your not afraid to do some mods for science sakes 👍. I have this case and love it, im running an overclocked 5600x with the id-cooling is-60 with a new chromax NF-A12x25 and it stays around 65C while gaming. But my poor evga 3080 x3 was getting HOT, throttling unless i cranked up the fans. I got the evga hybrid kit and installed it with two t30 fans. Runs overclocked at around 65c as well, and the system is almost silent. I did have to tape up the air gaps (picked that up from your Meshlicious case review) on the aio mount to help from hot air recirculating because that top panel isn't very breathable. Anywho, great content, your fan reviews and case reviews were a big influence on my build 👍
I would love to see them rework the top panel. I’m running a 5900x and evga 3080ti ftw3 ultra card in the q58 on a 280mm ek aio all 3 fans exhausting. Saw about a 5 degree decrease on cpu and 4 degree decrease on the gpu when I took the the top panel off. Seems like a pretty huge oversight by lian li.
Yeah the holes are too small. Thinking of drilling larger ones but that would destroy the finish.
Yeah for sure, I actually ended up designing a new top panel in fusion 360 to 3D print. Just kept the same dimensions but replaced the holes with slots, now I see almost no difference in temps on vs off, definitely worth it.
Ok I'm a little late to this but replacement top and side panels are being sold on Etsy.
Any link or file to the psu cage? Really interested in doing this to allow my bottom exhaust fan to breath a bit more and to allow the psu to have access to more fresh air.
Hey! Just binged ur meshlicious videos, and came across this too. Any suggestions on which one to pick or some pros/cons on the both of these? Seriously confused. Thanks for the videos 🙏😁
The ones I have seen have the mesh panels on the bottom and the acrylic up top. That screams to me to use fans up top, set to exhaust, to pull air in from the bottom sides, up and across the components.
I don't remember seeing anything vented on the bottom (although I see here that there is some venting there), so this makes the most sense to me. Had MicroCenter had any black in stock, I'd have taken one home today.
Hi, I have this case and can’t understand why lian li didn’t make space for 2 intake fans at bottom of case? Do you think it’s a good idea to attach a second intake fan on outside of pc at bottom. There’s easily enough room for a 15mm thick 120mm fan.
I always figured this case had potential. With a 280mm rad, and full mesh panels I wonder how much better the temps could become
You can order a second order of mesh panels, I have them, temps are very good, only have a 240 aio tho
@@watlerinc.7924 do you think a 280 would make much of a difference than a 240?
@@watlerinc.7924 what temps are you getting with all mesh setup?
7:10 can a single slot capture card (like Elgato 4K60 Pro) and a M.2 to PCIe riser fit in that gap?
Does moving the riser cable work for the 3060 ti founders edition?
What size drill bit did you use?
how about a custom water loop build on this case?
The panels can be set diagonally without needing to modify the case, correct?
yes dont know why he cut them
Thanks for the mod info
What fan do you have on the bottom of the case?
You can actually just order a glass panel from LianLi in Taiwan, it's about $6 or something and takes about 2 weeks to dispatch.
I would love to see you look at the mods available for the Meshlicious! There are a ton of 3D print ones available which include adding extra fans to the GPU side as well as a slim fan on the top. In addition, I believe there is a "mod" where if you block off the airflow from the GPU to the radiator up front with a piece of paper, you can drastically improve CPU thermals. Please take a look!
Hi. Is there possibility to put SFX-L Power Supply and 280 mm Aio at the same time i to Lian Li Q58?
Impressive stuff!
I hope Lian Li updates the SFX PSU bracket like yours. I prefer a steel one than a 3D printed version
For my setup in the LL Q58, intel 12700 and rtx 3060ti, am i understanding correctly that there's not a "most optimal" when it comes to setting the top 280 aio as exhaust or intake? and it's really up to me on whether i want to prioritize CPU or GPU temps?
Nice advice & modification done. Keep that momentum.. 👍🏻👌🏻👌🏻👏🏻
Taking inspiration from your meshlicious modifications, could you do a circular makeshift gasket on the psu, sealing the bottom half of the fan against the glass, top half against the mesh, giving a direct path into the top half of the fan through the mesh and pulling it down into the whole fan
I think it could be done- one additional thought I had was just to completely enclose the GPU in its own chamber by closing off the top and forcing the exhaust through the bottom fan. That way each chamber is optimized.
@@MachinesMore yes! that could be a good idea too!!
I just thought your idea of making the "gasket" for the meshlicious was incredibly creative, and it made me think you could do it for the PSU on this case as well.
I literally bought an nr200 b/c of you, and 6 weeks later i'm swapping to a mshlicious instead, solely because of your work on them.
maybe you should stop making case videos, you're costing me $$ and drawing the ire of my wife :)
I have watched your H20 and Q58 videos multiple times. I am just so torn. I have a Q58 case coming today and H20 (from AliExpress coming 2-3 weeks if not later) . I ordered the Q58 with extra mesh panels so I could have mesh on all 4 sections. I don't know If I should just go for the Q58 or wait for the H20.
Do you have any input? which one do you like better?
My components are 3070ti FE, 5600x, 240 AIO, 600 SFF, 32gb 3600mhz 16cl, 1TB m2. I have everything but the case LOL. If I go for Q58, I would go for all the mods you did here.
I like the H2O better but both are good, if you’re using a 240 AIO that fits (the pump clearance is low) then I think the H2O is the way to go. For air cooling the Q58 has critically more clearance.
@@MachinesMore thanks bro. I actually ordered it from Ali Express March 3rd and it came here yesterday. I was so shocked!
Lastly, is it worth getting the Noctua fans? Do you have cheaper suggestions?
How tall is that GPU stand off? Thanks
Is it safe thermally for the PSU/CPU side to be all glass? I would imagine there needs to be air intake for the PSU.
Are the feet/stands removable?
Would making the motherboard side all mesh enhance the CPU thermals in lieu of re positioning the PSU?
I wonder how much more you would get out of drilling larger holes in the top panel and a 280 rad.
I'll be setting up a hwlabs 280 GTS in mine soon. Had to wait forever to get a white one.
Wonder how fast I'll have to run the fans to keep water temp in check.
Thank you so much! Really appreciate your Tipps!
Nice work! Would it be possible to flip the power source 90 degrees so that the power source fan is aligning with either the top or bottom case fans? If so, do you think it would provide any improvement in noise and/or cooling?
With the 3D printed bracket, yes it would, since it doesn't have a solid back. The original/stock one does and that won't work since it would seal off the fan completely. Would it make a difference... I don't think it would be meaningful. One thought is that if it were flipped and took the hotter exhaust on the GPU to cool itself, it might be less effective, but it's not like PSUs need that much cooling. Oversizing it a bit for the build should be sufficient.
Moved my card. Hasn’t even hit 70 since (heavy undervolt)
I did notice however that my PCB and backplate REALLY have to squeeze to be able to mount. To the point of there being a slight curve on the card.
Are you experiencing the same thing in your build?
I haven’t but if that’s happening then I’d check the position of the riser cable, there is some play there so if you wiggle it a bit to a better position I think it will help.
Hey man, great video. Have you tried doing intake on the AIO instead of the exhaust? Wouldn't you get fresh air in for both cpu and gpu?
In a CPU priority scenario, yes absolutely. But the positive pressure setup really hurts GPU thermals.
I just ordered a set of mesh panels from Newegg Jan,13 2022 . We're 20 bucks shipped
Awesome! Glad to hear they’re coming!
what are the chances an i9 13900k can survive in a full mesh setup?
The space behind the glass on a gpu side looks a bit empty. I think putting some sort of small monitor inside it would be pretty cool!
you know, great idea. the open space just looks odd, might as well use it!
Nice tweaks! I wonder if there are any replacement for the top panel. It limits airflow too much. Did you try temps with your tweaks and no top panel?
Let me do that! And yeah, there aren’t quite as many vents as there should be.
@@MachinesMore nice! Let me know, interested in the results.
They sell seperate airflow-pannels in my country. Would be nice to see what difference it makes.
@@jonasmaas6548 top panels also? Or just the side mesh panels?
Did you use custom cables for psu?
Nope, the white ones are stock. I didn’t spend too much time organizing it though since it’s going to have to be redone anyway for air cooling testing!
If I were ever able to mod a case. I'd go for trying to make the NR200 a little taller, just enough to fit 2 140s at the bottom and at the top. And I'd like to have a drive cage for 2 2.5" SSDs "hanging" from the PSU. To maximize air cooling and storage capabilities and make the definitive case. Then it would just be missing a USB type-C port. But I that's a little more complicated.
Yeah, NR200P Liquid (tall) and NR200P Air (wide) would be an awesome v2 development!
Hey any chance you could upload the 3d printed psu cage file? I just ordered the Q58 and I'd love to try out that mod!
Will do! It’s still a little “beta” since I haven’t had a chance to test it but will put it up on thingiverse shortly- check back in a day or so in the video description!
@@MachinesMore Awesome! I'm looking forward to it
Did anyone try putting the AIO on intake instead of exhaust? So GPU and AIO intake, to exhast out the mesh panel. The PSU is then somewhat of an issue though. I wish this case wasn't sandwich style, it would be perfect then. Basically a smaller NR200 and thermals could flow bottom to top with no issues of the glass panels being on the top
I tested in my initial review- it’s great for CPU thermals but was unsustainable (topping 90 degrees) for the 3080, granted with a lower powered card it would absolutely be serviceable.
AWSOME MODS...I WENT AIR COOLED WITH A R7 2700...AND A RTX 2060...TOP INTAKE BOTTOM EXHAUST..GREAT TEMPS FOR ME...MESH ON BOTH BOTTOMS..GLASS ON TOPS HELPS CHANNEL AIR TO THE MOBO ...GOT A 3.5IN 4TB HANGING UNDER TOP FANS...2TB BEHIND POWER SUPPLY AND A 500G SSD IN THE FRONT...ITS A GOOD LIL PC.
Mantap!
For once yt algorhytm bring me something useful. Thanks for the tip!
No idea why they didn't make full mesh on both sides but they came out with this stupid idea.
Front panel should be moved up or on the right side, this would make a bit more space for a GPU.
Nice case but some strange decisions were made here.
Early crew
Print and sell me bracket pls )))
Do you have the ability to print one? I'm finalizing the design (this one is v2), I just wanted to do a longer term test to see how the screw holes hold up and then I'll probably just put it up on Thingiverse.
@@MachinesMore nope :( no one will print here
@@MachinesMore Please do post. I have access to 3D printer at work.
@@MachinesMore I second posting on thingiverse! Would love to print one for my build and would happily give a donation!
@@MachinesMore Please post the STL, this is exactly what I'm looking for!