I really appreciate that you talked about the realistic clearances. I think we've all been stuck with reading specs and then finding out that a component just won't fit. With the GPU shortage, it isn't easy to return something and be able to get a different component either.
Drop in ssds should be standard. In the center of a two chamber sff, this drop in idea could be a game changer. As far as the rear fan hub, that could also be a pretty nifty thing to be standard.
hotswappable SSD, the PWM and argb hub, option for bottom intake fans, really great work Lian Li ! cinematic mode is soooo goood ! keep up the excellent work !
Once again, you never fail to give us quality videos that are extremely descriptive and that dive into every single detail that a regular person like me would probably would’ve missed if it weren’t for informative videos like this. Keep up the amazing job, we appreciate you!
Found out to use a 280mm AIO you have to mount the fans to the case and the radiator below it. The radiator limit is 315mm or 325mm if you remove that SSD cage
Do you know if the NZXT Z63 280mm AIO would fit in this case? Would I have to do the same configuration that you are suggesting? The NZXT AIO is 315mm long, so I don't think there should be a problem with fitting it in since I will not be using the SSD cage.
@@lucianootiniano9307 that should fit with no issue. The fans have to be fitted to the case first then radiator due to case having a bit of a lip at the top of the case that just barely fits two 120mm fans side by side.
just had to stop by and say i very much appreciate your in-depth showings and reviews. Your the only channel I've come across that gets to the things i actually want to know and find out. So huge shout out. 🙂
It’s great to see great innovation being made in the SFF ITX case scene over the past year or two! Great review Nick and to the entire GS crew, Claire & Bindi, appreciate the work you do 🥰🥰👍🏆
You could mount the fans 1st and put the rad below and then you could fit a 280mm rad. And have the fans exhausting air still. I wonder if they could of made the front Io along the bottom to help with GPU clearance or if there is room on the other side. Would also be good if you could but 2x mesh and 2x TG if you wanted to. Now I have to make a hard choice nr200p max or this 🤔
The configuration mentioned at 13:55 implies that the best configuration would be to have the mesh on the bottom on one side and the top for the other. I decided to do this as I was watching this while I was building. This is not possible. The glass panels have a tab so they can only be both on the same side, both on top, or both on bottom. But not top on one side and bottom on the other. The mesh panels don't have that tab so it's fine. I'm now considering cutting off that tab but they don't sell additional glass panels (and I can't find where to order additional mesh panels in the states). The reason I wanted to do it was because the aio I chose looked nice and clean and I wanted to show off the CPU block. And I needed mesh on the other side for air intake for the GPU.
Nick, you mentioned you couldn’t fit the ROG strix card in at 318.5mm (as per ASUS website) but you fit the msi 3070 which is measured at 323mm? So is the clearance more towards 323mm?
What an awesome case. Lian Li really know how to make a quality product. I have the Lancool 205 Mesh myself. I would love to see the setup and thermals with an ATX PSU. I have a white Cooler Master PSU that would look great in this. Now I have something to strive for in the next few years when I build another PC. Thanks for the detailed review!
My tip for everyone: You can buy the PCIe 3.0 version of this case for $80 on NewEgg right now and a white PCIe riser cable on Amazon for $50-$60. This is not only cheaper than buying the PCIe 4.0 version of the case, but you can drill new mounting holes closer to the case window/mesh to bump your GPU out away from the motherboard, so you aren't creating such a hot spot between major components (this is a mod that many have done and they have gotten better thermals).
16:16 Oh wow when you said that I felt relieved. I was actually going to get the NR200-P but it unfortunately went out of stock, so I got the Q58 instead
Lol, I legit was about to ask if Bindi ever plays or bites your cases when she builds with you and sure enough she did it right as I was typing it out :D. I smile every time I see her.
The case lists support for 320mm GPU while the Strix 3090s are 319mm. Are we 100% sure they can't fit? This is a major make/break for me as I love how this case looks but refuse to give up my white 3090. I fully trust you and Bindi but my wishful thinking can't help but consider "there has to be some way!"
I wish this case would have all 4 mesh panels - this would help CPU (AIO) a lot. Also, the front panel should be higher (on the upper half) or on the right side so it would give more space for a longer GPU.
Will ask you to use both mesh panels on the gpu side and both glass on the mobo side.... the gpu will breathe better and the cpu block and ram will showcase the rgb better along with the fans
Asus 280mm AIO fits perfectly without having to remove the fan hub or 2.5 inch drive tray. NZXT 280mm AIO fits, but you have to remove either the fan hub OR the drive tray - the radiator is just a smidge too long. Also - NZXT kraken AIO pumps are too large to fit on Asus Z690-i boards.
I didn't even see this until I was looking at Reddit earlier. Looks like this will be my next case for my build. Might just have to sell all my extra full size and mid towers haha. Thinking of going 12th gen Intel once them prices go down a bit.
I just bought the black version, went with the MSI B550I, Ryzen 7 5800x, Kraken z63 aio, g skill z neo 32gb, but i am debating on the power supply cooler master v850 or the silverstone sx1000 platinum for my 3080ti.
I love the idea of cases like this and the NR200, but micro-ATX is more neglected every year. It only needs to be slightly larger to fit an mATX board, it wouldn't make too much of a difference in height. Missed opportunity.
Did you get to try different AIOs considering the size of radiators? :) Would love to see your next build! Also would like to see you trying to use a regular PSU and combining a single fan AIO! Thanks for the good quality videos!
Think it is pretty good, but I never personally liked to have the mb upside down, like to see all the logos rgb or not like they should be, to me is the only negative about it, aside from that is perfect
Hej mate, just watched your video. I did a little research: the ASUS ROG Gundam 3080 has a length of 318.5 mm and the MSI 3070 Gaming X Trio a length of 323.00 mm. How is it possible that the ASUS didn't fit but the MSI did? Is it because of the chunky ASUS cooler? I am a little confused as I want to try to fit a 4070 TI with a length of 323.00 mm which would be the same length as the 3070 you used here.
I just can’t help but think what this case would look like in a vertical orientation with the mobo io at the bottom. I do wish you could have the glass open slightly on top with the top mesh panel installed.
this looks so good, my next build is probably gonna be something small, so mini atx is great, was looking for a either 3080 team green or team red 6800 or 6800 xt. problem: there is literally NO custom card design that would fit. the reference cards are smaller lol! but sexy case for sure, thermals also look ok!
Ive looked at strix specs and they say its less than 320mm when that msi trio board is 323 so its such cointoss if they give accurate specs in that regard. Even a red devil is meant to be a couple mm shorter but that remains to be seen.
great review as ever , managed to fit 280mm nzxt aio in this case along with the asus rog rtx3080 10gb v2 which is 318.5mm long ( had to take the power plug-in out and refit after card)
PSA: NZXT Kraken X63 RGB 280mm does ~~not~~ fit in this case Edit: it does work! Just need to take off drop in ssd slot before installing. I was able to put the ssd slot back after I got the radiator in.
I love the the design and the challenge of building with this case but unfortunately it's very bad in the thermo department. I ordered mesh side panels , tried air cooler and different air intake and exhaust dan settings . I played with 3 diferent gpus to test thermos and still the thermos were a bit too hot for my standard . i5-12600K / RTX 3060ti / 3080/ and in the end an FE 3070ti which is a smaller GPU with better headroom and lower temps but still running at low 70s celcius temps. Love the case and design but Inhad to take down the build and transfer it to the NR200 and let me say that the NR200 is way better in temps but not as beautiful as the Q58. I would say the Q58 is good for a lower tier 1080p gaming build like i3 /i5/R5 5600X /5600G with an RX 6600XT / GTX 1660ti / RTX 3050 or 3060 at the most .
Could you mount two 3.5in HDDs in there? My SG05 at nearly 11L can fit two 3.5s and two (to four) 2.5s, a 120mm AIO with P12 push-pull, SFX PSU, 60mm gpu exhaust. Heck I'm planning on mounting a couple of 40-50mm fans beneath the PSU for some VRM ventilation. I'm thinking of the Meshlicious or maybe this case as a potential future upgrade
hmm now i watched GGF and well that guy is just brilliant and custom. This build is necessary because its what 90% would have to build. Making it look good though, just pure looks, the open spaces, the window configuration either custom water cooling, or lets say gpu side vented side panel put on bottom and top. Then we have double window where the motherboard/power supply is, then your cable management needs to be top tier. If you double window gpu side, then you are just suffocating the gpu and I am pretty sure everyone here would just not do that.
I have found that SFF cases have too many compromises to be made such as cooling CPU and GPU, cable management, etc,. I will stick with mid-size towers and ATX motherboards.
Hey GS, can you please make a ATX build in the SFF-Time N-ATX case. Particularly with watercooled parts. I have a i7-7700K under a 240mm corsair aio on a ASUS TUFF Z270, a EVGA 1080ti 120mm aio Hybrid, and a EVGA G2 850W ATX psu. If possible, I would like to move them into this slim ATX case to better fit my cramped dorm desk. I've come to despise my Corsair Crystal 570X RGB case younger (very dumb me) purchased.
I really appreciate that you talked about the realistic clearances. I think we've all been stuck with reading specs and then finding out that a component just won't fit. With the GPU shortage, it isn't easy to return something and be able to get a different component either.
So glad to hear Nick is healthy !!
Drop in ssds should be standard. In the center of a two chamber sff, this drop in idea could be a game changer. As far as the rear fan hub, that could also be a pretty nifty thing to be standard.
For those of us in video production, yup!
I would totally buy a case that has a stack of those hotswap style SATA SSDs.
You have to restart your PC to detect SSD though.
And removing it while PC is on will lead to drive failure.
@@matasa7463 it's not hot swappable.
Lian Li's engineers are obviously from the future.
Can't wait to get ahold of one of these beauties for my first ITX build.
Lian Li has been killing it with the SFF cases recently, would totally cop if I didn't already have an NR200.
I am in the same boat. Still loving NR200P.
Same
I dream of getting my NR200 soon but this case def looks nice
the nr200 is leagues ahead of this one...
@@cl4ssic I dont know if leagues ahead but I def prefer the NR200
One of the most underrated tech channels on TH-cam!
Not sure if I keep coming here for the tech or the brilliant music and cinematics!
hotswappable SSD, the PWM and argb hub, option for bottom intake fans, really great work Lian Li ! cinematic mode is soooo goood ! keep up the excellent work !
Once again, you never fail to give us quality videos that are extremely descriptive and that dive into every single detail that a regular person like me would probably would’ve missed if it weren’t for informative videos like this. Keep up the amazing job, we appreciate you!
Found out to use a 280mm AIO you have to mount the fans to the case and the radiator below it. The radiator limit is 315mm or 325mm if you remove that SSD cage
Do you know if the NZXT Z63 280mm AIO would fit in this case? Would I have to do the same configuration that you are suggesting? The NZXT AIO is 315mm long, so I don't think there should be a problem with fitting it in since I will not be using the SSD cage.
@@lucianootiniano9307 that should fit with no issue. The fans have to be fitted to the case first then radiator due to case having a bit of a lip at the top of the case that just barely fits two 120mm fans side by side.
The Lian Li Leow is an amazingly hyper realistic robocat, too. Well done Lian Li!
Right when i saw the integrated pwm/rgb hub I was sold I'm definitely gonna pick this up when i can
Would like to see it with two more mesh panels to go all mesh
@@BattlerigsComputing I noticed it's an optional purchase so that's good enough for me
You can order spare panels from Lian-Li, so that's easily doable.
Lian Li's own video shows the panels are swappable, and you can do full mesh.
i think u will can buy it when the case is for sale
Luv LUV LOVE yer content, yer advice, yer music, yer aesthetic, AND YOUR CAT Bindi! (Klaire is yours to love, but I appreciate her, as well)
just had to stop by and say i very much appreciate your in-depth showings and reviews. Your the only channel I've come across that gets to the things i actually want to know and find out. So huge shout out. 🙂
Great review and love that Kitty is ensuring good quality control.
Ugh, the flip open PWM and RGB hub, and the SSD rack, wow. Lian Li is killing it lately. Love to see the innovation
Testing all the panel configurations was such a legend move! So many people would’ve slipped over them all!
Damn Lian Li is hitting strong rn
Lian Li killing it again. this itx case is epic as hell, great video fams
It’s great to see great innovation being made in the SFF ITX case scene over the past year or two! Great review Nick and to the entire GS crew, Claire & Bindi, appreciate the work you do 🥰🥰👍🏆
Nice to see Bindy is over-seeing the build to ensure no short-cuts or the like are taken! Super vid thanks Nick. Go well ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
What a superb little case, have the Lancool 2 Mesh myself, can see my next build being in this little beauty...thanks for sharing guys.
Excellent coverage on this new case! You covered everything about it and after watching this, makes me want to purchase one and do a build.
I might’ve missed it but did he cover the size of this case in liters?
You could mount the fans 1st and put the rad below and then you could fit a 280mm rad. And have the fans exhausting air still.
I wonder if they could of made the front Io along the bottom to help with GPU clearance or if there is room on the other side.
Would also be good if you could but 2x mesh and 2x TG if you wanted to.
Now I have to make a hard choice nr200p max or this 🤔
Banger of a case. Lian Li killing it with another great case. Excellent video fams.
Been looking forward to this, great review and build as always.
The configuration mentioned at 13:55 implies that the best configuration would be to have the mesh on the bottom on one side and the top for the other. I decided to do this as I was watching this while I was building.
This is not possible. The glass panels have a tab so they can only be both on the same side, both on top, or both on bottom. But not top on one side and bottom on the other. The mesh panels don't have that tab so it's fine. I'm now considering cutting off that tab but they don't sell additional glass panels (and I can't find where to order additional mesh panels in the states).
The reason I wanted to do it was because the aio I chose looked nice and clean and I wanted to show off the CPU block. And I needed mesh on the other side for air intake for the GPU.
Sorry for stalking you guys. Finally. The wait is over. It looks amazing.
Cat at 1:58 “wow, they really outdid themselves”
😂
The sub bass on that montage beat is so fire. Would love for you to do some beat streams man, you got some sick stuff. Cheers!
Nick, you mentioned you couldn’t fit the ROG strix card in at 318.5mm (as per ASUS website) but you fit the msi 3070 which is measured at 323mm? So is the clearance more towards 323mm?
What an awesome case. Lian Li really know how to make a quality product. I have the Lancool 205 Mesh myself. I would love to see the setup and thermals with an ATX PSU. I have a white Cooler Master PSU that would look great in this. Now I have something to strive for in the next few years when I build another PC. Thanks for the detailed review!
Great build... And the cat visual 0:18 is pure class
clicked just for the thumbnail... a Gaming X Trio card in an ITX case is seriously impressive
My tip for everyone:
You can buy the PCIe 3.0 version of this case for $80 on NewEgg right now and a white PCIe riser cable on Amazon for $50-$60. This is not only cheaper than buying the PCIe 4.0 version of the case, but you can drill new mounting holes closer to the case window/mesh to bump your GPU out away from the motherboard, so you aren't creating such a hot spot between major components (this is a mod that many have done and they have gotten better thermals).
Nice job! This is the first build I've seen that utilized the fan underneath the PSU - how difficult was that to do with the thick PSU cables?
I pre-ordered this case right away!
16:16 Oh wow when you said that I felt relieved. I was actually going to get the NR200-P but it unfortunately went out of stock, so I got the Q58 instead
That cat knows a quality case
Honestly thinking of getting this case now!
I’ve been waiting for this video 😁
Lol, I legit was about to ask if Bindi ever plays or bites your cases when she builds with you and sure enough she did it right as I was typing it out :D. I smile every time I see her.
That Case Has Some Distinctive Look to It : )
Bindi looks like a super model next to that case
Very Nice build 🙂 I do like the smaller itx builds I just finished a build using a kolink citadel white micro atx case for a friend 😀
Beautiful case. Thx for the excellent, thorough review.
I swear, how is that cat so photogenic, i came for the case(wonderfull build btw) , but the cat hooked me fr
😂 Trust me I have some derp photos of her haha
@@KlaireGearSeekers ahaha, I can imagine! She must be a great help while Nick is trying to assemble a build, like at 2:06 😂
The case lists support for 320mm GPU while the Strix 3090s are 319mm. Are we 100% sure they can't fit? This is a major make/break for me as I love how this case looks but refuse to give up my white 3090. I fully trust you and Bindi but my wishful thinking can't help but consider "there has to be some way!"
I wish this case would have all 4 mesh panels - this would help CPU (AIO) a lot.
Also, the front panel should be higher (on the upper half) or on the right side so it would give more space for a longer GPU.
Your cat is so photogenic, I love them!
Well there's no PC parts list in description and you haven't mentioned what kind of PSU is that, that's what I'm interested in.
Interesting. I want to try 2x 120mm AIOs for the CPU and GPU.
My desire to go ITX grows as the cases get better.
i wish you would include what all the parts are in a list or a quick section of the video.
Will ask you to use both mesh panels on the gpu side and both glass on the mobo side.... the gpu will breathe better and the cpu block and ram will showcase the rgb better along with the fans
Asus 280mm AIO fits perfectly without having to remove the fan hub or 2.5 inch drive tray. NZXT 280mm AIO fits, but you have to remove either the fan hub OR the drive tray - the radiator is just a smidge too long.
Also - NZXT kraken AIO pumps are too large to fit on Asus Z690-i boards.
Big brain move by Lian li to eliminate gpu sag by resting big cards on the front io panel 🧠
I wish you had the option to push the motherboard try back so you can plug in the GPU in without the riser cable.
I would like to see you build it with a atx psu, air cooler and a 3.5 inch hdd
same me too
I didn't even see this until I was looking at Reddit earlier. Looks like this will be my next case for my build. Might just have to sell all my extra full size and mid towers haha. Thinking of going 12th gen Intel once them prices go down a bit.
haha your cat is such a model at 20:47
Wow so perfect. Buy daum i thought this whiteout case was made specifically for 30-Rog cards. I think this calls for cutting action.
I'm in love with this case.
Came for the tech, stayed for the cat.
This man's cat for some reason just seems to match the aesthetic appearance of the pc and I'm not really sure why.
I just bought the black version, went with the MSI B550I, Ryzen 7 5800x, Kraken z63 aio, g skill z neo 32gb, but i am debating on the power supply cooler master v850 or the silverstone sx1000 platinum for my 3080ti.
I love the idea of cases like this and the NR200, but micro-ATX is more neglected every year. It only needs to be slightly larger to fit an mATX board, it wouldn't make too much of a difference in height. Missed opportunity.
Did you get to try different AIOs considering the size of radiators? :) Would love to see your next build! Also would like to see you trying to use a regular PSU and combining a single fan AIO! Thanks for the good quality videos!
Think it is pretty good, but I never personally liked to have the mb upside down, like to see all the logos rgb or not like they should be, to me is the only negative about it, aside from that is perfect
Are there any company’s that prebuild in this case???
Probably not.
can't wait to build in one and paint it.
sideways meshlicious!!
looks great
Looks a bit too tight for a custom water cool build what do you think??
Hej mate, just watched your video. I did a little research: the ASUS ROG Gundam 3080 has a length of 318.5 mm and the MSI 3070 Gaming X Trio a length of 323.00 mm. How is it possible that the ASUS didn't fit but the MSI did? Is it because of the chunky ASUS cooler? I am a little confused as I want to try to fit a 4070 TI with a length of 323.00 mm which would be the same length as the 3070 you used here.
I just can’t help but think what this case would look like in a vertical orientation with the mobo io at the bottom. I do wish you could have the glass open slightly on top with the top mesh panel installed.
Great video buddy, Can to do a side by side comparison between the Q58 and Meshlicious !!
for your thermal test you should be adding fan speeds in the graphs so people know if youre using default curves or custom curves
No
@@GearSeekers Then your thermal tests are invalid
Your opinion is invalid
@@GearSeekersYour data is invalid
20:46 best part
great review Nick!
this looks so good, my next build is probably gonna be something small, so mini atx is great, was looking for a either 3080 team green or team red 6800 or 6800 xt. problem: there is literally NO custom card design that would fit. the reference cards are smaller lol! but sexy case for sure, thermals also look ok!
Ive looked at strix specs and they say its less than 320mm when that msi trio board is 323 so its such cointoss if they give accurate specs in that regard.
Even a red devil is meant to be a couple mm shorter but that remains to be seen.
You should show where you stashed the Unifan controller
I didn't use one.
great review as ever , managed to fit 280mm nzxt aio in this case along with the asus rog rtx3080 10gb v2 which is 318.5mm long ( had to take the power plug-in out and refit after card)
PSA: NZXT Kraken X63 RGB 280mm does ~~not~~ fit in this case
Edit: it does work! Just need to take off drop in ssd slot before installing. I was able to put the ssd slot back after I got the radiator in.
Hi love your breakdown case and motherboard videos! I wanted to know what you think of compatibility with an RTX 4080 FE card in this case?
another amazing video
Lian Li just owns the game honestly! This is pretty sexy !!
Great review mate. Keep it up. Still waiting on the PC Partpicker list. Yes I'm lazy :-)
I love the the design and the challenge of building with this case but unfortunately it's very bad in the thermo department. I ordered mesh side panels , tried air cooler and different air intake and exhaust dan settings . I played with 3 diferent gpus to test thermos and still the thermos were a bit too hot for my standard . i5-12600K / RTX 3060ti / 3080/ and in the end an FE 3070ti which is a smaller GPU with better headroom and lower temps but still running at low 70s celcius temps. Love the case and design but Inhad to take down the build and transfer it to the NR200 and let me say that the NR200 is way better in temps but not as beautiful as the Q58. I would say the Q58 is good for a lower tier 1080p gaming build like i3 /i5/R5 5600X /5600G with an RX 6600XT / GTX 1660ti / RTX 3050 or 3060 at the most .
pretty neat looking.
Think I'm over non glass windows. for the sake of aesthetics over time.
Would love to fit a 280mm artic aio in here. Probably need slim fans tho
Could you mount two 3.5in HDDs in there?
My SG05 at nearly 11L can fit two 3.5s and two (to four) 2.5s, a 120mm AIO with P12 push-pull, SFX PSU, 60mm gpu exhaust. Heck I'm planning on mounting a couple of 40-50mm fans beneath the PSU for some VRM ventilation.
I'm thinking of the Meshlicious or maybe this case as a potential future upgrade
How did you fit that gpu? It’s length is 233mm which is longer then the strix card you tested.
Will your gigabyte vision card fit into the case? I have the exact same card and I think I’m getting this case.
hmm now i watched GGF and well that guy is just brilliant and custom. This build is necessary because its what 90% would have to build. Making it look good though, just pure looks, the open spaces, the window configuration either custom water cooling, or lets say gpu side vented side panel put on bottom and top. Then we have double window where the motherboard/power supply is, then your cable management needs to be top tier. If you double window gpu side, then you are just suffocating the gpu and I am pretty sure everyone here would just not do that.
Just got scored this card and was looking at this case. Bad idea for a first timer?
wont be too long for lian li to make a travel suit case.. them so sleek!
I have found that SFF cases have too many compromises to be made such as cooling CPU and GPU, cable management, etc,. I will stick with mid-size towers and ATX motherboards.
There were a few stretches during the B-Roll where the music seems to stop completely. Was this some sort of test? :D If so you got me.
Hey GS, can you please make a ATX build in the SFF-Time N-ATX case. Particularly with watercooled parts. I have a i7-7700K under a 240mm corsair aio on a ASUS TUFF Z270, a EVGA 1080ti 120mm aio Hybrid, and a EVGA G2 850W ATX psu. If possible, I would like to move them into this slim ATX case to better fit my cramped dorm desk. I've come to despise my Corsair Crystal 570X RGB case younger (very dumb me) purchased.
Do you think a Deepcool Gamer Storm Captain 240X can fit in there ? I'm worry about the size of the body pump