I have it from 2 weeks now and it's the best case I've ever own. Very good size, temperatures and performance. It's also very flexible with how you can build it. I've got mini-itx motherboard, ATX power supply, RTX 4060 dual, 120mm AIO water cooling and 3 additional 120mm fans. Even have more room for at least 2 SATA SSD's but instead I use 2 NVMe's.
I actually love you, very helpful. This case has a lovely exterior and a compact interior. No TH-camr has shown that a 280 mm rad can fit, so I thank you sir.
gotta give LL credit for putting a lot of time and models into sff. i'm hopeful their revamp of the 011 air mini comes out really good sick intro as always, thanks for the video!
Try it with all 4 as mesh panels once they come available. This may help. Another custom idea is to mount a slim 120mm fan or 2 as an exhaust out of the upper mesh above the GPU. Maybe cut in a wider custom metal mesh for the fans only.. Just a thought.
I have completed a hardline custom loop in the PCIeV4 white version of this case - extremely tight and I had to mod the case to get the EK FLT80-D5 pump/res in (cut circular hole behind PSU to let pump extend back from other side). It was a lot easier once I decided to make my own cables to fit exactly where they are needed. Both glass panels on the GPU side to show off the GPU block, pump and pipes, both mesh panels on the MB/PSU side for the PSU to breathe, just as is mentioned in this vid. With only a 240 rad cooling both CPU and GPU I went for a 5600X and a 3060Ti to keep thermal load down and have under-volted both to assist with that. I originally built it with a DDC pump/res from BarrowCH, but that died so I got the drill out and fitted the EK unit. I used 16mm Acrylic tubes from Alphacool with their white fittings except the elbows - those are Bitspower shiny-chrome, low-profile elbows that keep the 16mm fittings clear of the glass and are a nice focus point. I have the build in pcpartpicker and will edit this with the link later. edit - link to pcpartpicker build - uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/fPF8TW
I'm really excited about some of the better design features in this case. However, I have to say that in terms of the critiques you offer, I pretty much agree 100%. Maybe it will take years before we have a fully featured value alternative to the NR200. But if someone was able to take the pricing and value of the NR200 and add in some of the better features from the Q58, we would have a game changer.
Indeed, I think at least in terms of the layout, it is what it is, some tweaks would help but an NR200 or performance oriented competitor would have to come in the form of a traditional layout. In fact Lian Li does have a template to work off of, the TU150, and if they tweak that, we could be seeing some interesting competition. Sure the Q58 is quite a bit smaller in volume but at the same time, if it had that extra volume it would still have ground to make up in the performance department.
This is such a great case. Fairly easy to build in and it looks fantastic. Edit: Thanks for showing the clearance between the CPU and the glass. I just picked up a new Lian Li AIO and was unsure if the pump would fit...
Thank's for this great and in depth review, intersting to see that the t30s fits well on this case, i wonder if it would be better with the nh a12 though. Indeed thermals are better on the cm nr200p but it's kinda predictable as this one is a smaller case. Personally I would consider it a great choice for an sff build if lian tweeks it for a better thermal performance.
You can get extra mesh (or acrylic) side panels for better breathability. (Not sure if this video mentions it or not; I'm on the phone writing this waiting to watch the video.)
I have the PCIE4.0 version and put a 120mm fan in the bottom with a full size 170mm ATX PSU :D barely fits but it’s epic!!! Make sure to use a high static pressure fan to fight the cable clutter since it congest the air flow a lot.
@chaotik core Hey there. Im currently looking into getting a build for 1440p gaming but also silent and small as possible. How are your thermals and noise levels with your solution mentioned?
@@Blacksadify Yh and you can fit a 4 slot card or have two 140mm fans at the bottom. Plus you can also fit a 240mm aio on top. Just ashame it’s not from a company like coolermaster or phantek
Nice case and well thought out to be unique.. However, the uniqueness doesn't win with me. I prefer to stay with the cooler master NR200p for its solid air flow in a sff case.
@@MachinesMore I've got the nzxt kraken x62 and I don't need the ssd caddy so that is not an issue. Any chance I could fit the radiator on top and fans under? Would give more room for the tubes.
I want to say the X63 is exactly the same length as the H115i I test fit so no, the fans have to go on top. Not my preferred install for SFF since the tubing is more annoying to manage but not the end of the world either. Thanks for the info on the panels!
Those mesh and glass panels can be mixed and matched on opposite sides. Mesh panels or glass panels from one side would fit on the opposite side of the case if you flip them top to bottom.
Thanks for the review and thermal outcome, think I'll stick back to my NR200 due to thermal of high end cards gonna make CPU suffer more. Maybe a low-mid build will be much more suitable for this case... Still waiting for a NR200 successor in the future.
Indeed, I think this one is perfect for a medium build (or lopsided build with one OP component). For the higher powered builds the airflow and layout of the NR200 is the answer.
Idk why I just assumed the T30s wouldnt fit in the meshilicious. Im looking to build one soon and just love the look and performance of the T30s. Is the fit extremely tight or is it ok?
@@zizo5535 I have the nzxt z53 and w/that radiator and the Phantex you have a few mm of space between the fan and the edge of the mobo/GPU center frame. I have the front panels connectors routes so they don’t rest close to the front of the fans. You can do it. I’ll try and take some pix later, post on Imgur and drop the link here
@@Geezimac Just opened the link. Thank you for the detailed pictures. It seems like routing the mobo power cables is only possible by going downwards, like the way you did it. I love how you painted the T30s white to match the aesthetics. I also love white builds and was wondering today if the T30s would ever be released in white. Thanks again!
@@zizo5535 np. If you extend the mobo stand offs you may be able to route in between board/frame/GPU. I ruined my NZXT water pump block when I tried to vinyl wrap it white. I scratched the glass like crazy. I ended up masking everything off and painting in white- 2 weeks later NZXT announced their white AIOs😖 good luck on the build!
@@swizzler8053 I never spoke of the quality. You are the one that assumed I meant bad. In fact, I think the NR200 has pretty solid build quality, especially considering the price. I'm using one myself.
I think they should have provided 2 additional mesh panels at this price point. The glass looks stupid at the top with barely anything on show and only serves to reduce airflow. I think it would look cleaner with mesh everywhere
I think I will wait for the upcoming Silverstone SG16 itx case, which is basically a flipped SG13 tower itx case. I am personally just not a fan of pc cases using pci-e riser cards. Would be actually cool to see small ATX cases as well. Still think a 21L or so ITX case would be cool...so a 21L NR 200. Im personally burned out of the ITX craze and my current build is in the old, but classic Silverstone TJ08-E mATX case. The included 180mm high static pressure tunnel fan is amazing, but only but thing is only one available exhaust fan mount.
Do you think having full mesh panels on all sides would bring this case even with the NR200? Great review. Very helpful. The Q58 case just arrived, but now I'm wondering about getting the OG NR200 or NR200P because due to the better thermals. I will be using a 12700k with 3070 (or better if able)
Honestly, I'm skip the case completely, as the thermals don't seem that good and the glass panel dissent show off anything I really want to look at and just hinder temps. If I did have this case of consider "opening the doors" while in use. All mesh panels would be good option and something if prefer over the glass. I'm sticking to my NR200, Meshlicious & Ophion EVO for my builds.
I have a question I just recently did a build using this very same case however after upon putting everything together I was concerned that it wasn’t gonna turn out how I wanted meaning everything was gonna work just fine.. turns out no the fan to the psu wasn’t spinning my aio lian li fans didn’t light up as well my ram glowed so I’m assuming the MOBO is getting power so then what did I do wrong I was going back and fourth with my father saying that perhaps the cables to the psu wasn’t installed correctly I followed pctechnicians Q85 build but felt my father rushed through the process because he wanted to see if it will power on knowing he didn’t know which wires goes where himself am I screwed????? Or can I fix this? My father keeps saying it’s my psu however I honestly believe he didn’t know what he was doing and rushed the process..help me get this thing turned around!!
Hello I really like the case and your review. Can you tell me if this would be fine GPU RTX 3090 TI (Zotac 310mm long) + Water cooled Ryzen 7 5700X I would put one fan as intake fan at the bottom And CPU radiator fans would be blowing air outside to the top ? Would you recommend something like that or i would have to choose another case. Thanks in advance
Wow, I'm shocked the T30's fit in here. I have the Arctic Bionix P120's in my Q58 setup and they're pretty close as it is, but I might have to look into T30's when they're a little more accessible. The Bionix fans on the Phanteks 240MP are doing a great job cooling my 5900X so far, though, so T30's are more of a dream, I suppose.
Yeah, I noticed the T30s are difficult to get right now. The thickness should be fine, the MP240 has a very similar rad thickness to the ML240 Illusion so assuming your riser isn’t pushed out a lot it should clear. What I’m a little curious about is if a regular 25mm fan will give better airflow in this case, for that I’m going to wait until the Chromax A12x25s arrive.
This case is begging for a custom loop. That'll solve the top exhaust/intake issue. I'm sure that video is coming soon. 🤓 Where did you find this in stock? I looked and couldn't find a vendor.
Hi Caren, at some point, yeah! It’ll need a few mods here and there to get it to where a bottom rad can be serviceable but we’ll get there. Newegg is the only US distributor right now that has them but I believe they are shipped from Lian Li directly.
Hey thanks a ton for the review and benchmarked results. Ive been eyeing this case recently, do you think it'd be an issue thermally speaking, for a 3070 ti and 5600x or should I look to the nr200 and just suck up no USBC on the front I/o
I want to say maybe, but I’d be a bit hesitant just because in my experience the PSU fan is going to kick on with your 3060ti power draw in a gaming scenario, and if it can’t draw air it’s just going to ramp up heavy. Granted, that level of power isn’t too bad but I have a feeling that the PSU will heat up and want to ramp fans to max (it’ll be super loud). But… try it and see what happens, it might be fine, at worst you have to swap the panels to vent the PSU. I wish it were just offset 1cm though, that would have made that orientation totally workable.
@@MachinesMore thanks for the input. Will definitely give it a try when it arrives. I wonder if there will be some custom glass/ acrylic panel that'd have have air hole cutout for the psu in the future.
With all the different posts about computers random shutdown with the 3070 and up, im wondering if that SF600 is a little on the small side with a 3080?
For sure, at load it’s higher than optimal but for this particular card and CPU it’s OK. The XC3 runs at reference power and the 3700X at OC and full load is ~100. I am going to take it apart and do some mods and at that point should have an 850W that’s not tied up that I will throw in.
There’s a few restrictions on how long the rad can be, 325 is the absolute max but that requires removal of the hot swap SSD tray. For less restrictions you’ll want something less than 315mm. Something like the EK 280 and NZXT X63 (both less than or equal to 315mm) will be a better fit than the 320mm H115i I test fitted with, but any of these will require the fan to be above the rad.
@@MachinesMore Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply. I watched another review on TH-cam and the reviewer mentioned the poor compatibility for 280 AIO. It's really useful to have the exact measurements for the limitations.
@@MachinesMore thanks for the answer. Now will wait to see your video about the aircooler build for this case. Really appreciate your review about this case, much thorough than other youtuber. 👍🏻
Lian Li makes cool looking cases, but cooling performance potential and functionality wise leaves a bit to be desired. Hopefully the Silverstone SG16 gives NR200 some competition.
@@CknSalad That, and I am not a huge fan of the white version of the case. For the price premium over the black anodized version, I would have preferred an electrophoretic deposition finish rather than powder coating. Every thing else I don't like about the case he already highlighted in the video haha. I bought it originally because it was on a decent sale right now in Canada, but I can't see myself keeping it with the issues and the cooling performance it has..
I’m glad that was helpful to you. The case has its feature set that will be appealing to some, but a lot of folks like you might want better performance. Sounds like you made a confident choice. Thanks for checking in.
I have it from 2 weeks now and it's the best case I've ever own. Very good size, temperatures and performance. It's also very flexible with how you can build it. I've got mini-itx motherboard, ATX power supply, RTX 4060 dual, 120mm AIO water cooling and 3 additional 120mm fans. Even have more room for at least 2 SATA SSD's but instead I use 2 NVMe's.
I actually love you, very helpful. This case has a lovely exterior and a compact interior. No TH-camr has shown that a 280 mm rad can fit, so I thank you sir.
I've been waiting for your take on this case... Can't wait to watch it
gotta give LL credit for putting a lot of time and models into sff. i'm hopeful their revamp of the 011 air mini comes out really good
sick intro as always, thanks for the video!
Cheers! Yeah, they’re working on some good stuff!
Nailed this and answered a bunch of questions I have. Solid content man.
I've watched every review on this case and you went above and beyond other reviewers.
Your camera work on the intro screams 190k subs not 19k subs… keep up the quality content man
Thank you! Always learning something new.
TYVM. Very happy with my NR200. CPU & GPU temps hang around 58-61c during gaming (RTX 3080 Ti FE & R9 5900X). All because of you. :)
I doubt anyone can make a better case than the NR200p.. Size, price, airflow, good luck 😅😅
@@leonardsmith82 The NR200 is a bit on the larger side and it is by no means perfect. Improvements can definitely be made.
What cooler are you using for your 5900X? :)
Try it with all 4 as mesh panels once they come available. This may help. Another custom idea is to mount a slim 120mm fan or 2 as an exhaust out of the upper mesh above the GPU. Maybe cut in a wider custom metal mesh for the fans only.. Just a thought.
ive seen a video test where they used all mesh panels on both sides and the temps didn't make any differnece :3
I have completed a hardline custom loop in the PCIeV4 white version of this case - extremely tight and I had to mod the case to get the EK FLT80-D5 pump/res in (cut circular hole behind PSU to let pump extend back from other side). It was a lot easier once I decided to make my own cables to fit exactly where they are needed. Both glass panels on the GPU side to show off the GPU block, pump and pipes, both mesh panels on the MB/PSU side for the PSU to breathe, just as is mentioned in this vid. With only a 240 rad cooling both CPU and GPU I went for a 5600X and a 3060Ti to keep thermal load down and have under-volted both to assist with that. I originally built it with a DDC pump/res from BarrowCH, but that died so I got the drill out and fitted the EK unit. I used 16mm Acrylic tubes from Alphacool with their white fittings except the elbows - those are Bitspower shiny-chrome, low-profile elbows that keep the 16mm fittings clear of the glass and are a nice focus point. I have the build in pcpartpicker and will edit this with the link later.
edit - link to pcpartpicker build - uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/fPF8TW
I'm really excited about some of the better design features in this case. However, I have to say that in terms of the critiques you offer, I pretty much agree 100%. Maybe it will take years before we have a fully featured value alternative to the NR200. But if someone was able to take the pricing and value of the NR200 and add in some of the better features from the Q58, we would have a game changer.
Indeed, I think at least in terms of the layout, it is what it is, some tweaks would help but an NR200 or performance oriented competitor would have to come in the form of a traditional layout. In fact Lian Li does have a template to work off of, the TU150, and if they tweak that, we could be seeing some interesting competition. Sure the Q58 is quite a bit smaller in volume but at the same time, if it had that extra volume it would still have ground to make up in the performance department.
@@MachinesMore for the same price, wich is better, nr200 or lian li q58? (ryzen 7 5800x and 3070 gpu)
This is such a great case. Fairly easy to build in and it looks fantastic.
Edit: Thanks for showing the clearance between the CPU and the glass. I just picked up a new Lian Li AIO and was unsure if the pump would fit...
Thank's for this great and in depth review, intersting to see that the t30s fits well on this case, i wonder if it would be better with the nh a12 though. Indeed thermals are better on the cm nr200p but it's kinda predictable as this one is a smaller case. Personally I would consider it a great choice for an sff build if lian tweeks it for a better thermal performance.
You can get extra mesh (or acrylic) side panels for better breathability. (Not sure if this video mentions it or not; I'm on the phone writing this waiting to watch the video.)
I have the PCIE4.0 version and put a 120mm fan in the bottom with a full size 170mm ATX PSU :D barely fits but it’s epic!!! Make sure to use a high static pressure fan to fight the cable clutter since it congest the air flow a lot.
Yeah, it’s tight. I’ve been mulling over the mods needed to get a 120mm rad in there for a custom loop.
@chaotik core Hey there. Im currently looking into getting a build for 1440p gaming but also silent and small as possible.
How are your thermals and noise levels with your solution mentioned?
A great sff case to try out is the c28 pulse from mechanic master. The only issue is the item will be coming from China so be careful of import tax
That one does look really good. I kind of prefer a few things about it, like the PSU covered area, and the full 120mm at the back.
@@Blacksadify Yh and you can fit a 4 slot card or have two 140mm fans at the bottom. Plus you can also fit a 240mm aio on top. Just ashame it’s not from a company like coolermaster or phantek
Nice case and well thought out to be unique.. However, the uniqueness doesn't win with me. I prefer to stay with the cooler master NR200p for its solid air flow in a sff case.
I've got an NR200P, and although its great, its not really SFF IMO. Sure, its ITX, but thats where it ends.
Nr200 is not SFF
Would love to see you review the Hyte Revolt 3 next.
I just got my black pcie4 version from mail but still have to rebuild my pc into it 🥳 I love it! I would like to see you fit a 280mm AIO inside.
Awesome. The H115i I tested fits but you need to take off the hot swap SSD.
@@MachinesMore I've got the nzxt kraken x62 and I don't need the ssd caddy so that is not an issue. Any chance I could fit the radiator on top and fans under? Would give more room for the tubes.
@@MachinesMore oh and btw we have those mesh panels for sale separately here in Finland but not in stock yet.
I want to say the X63 is exactly the same length as the H115i I test fit so no, the fans have to go on top. Not my preferred install for SFF since the tubing is more annoying to manage but not the end of the world either. Thanks for the info on the panels!
@@MachinesMore Lian Li just released a tutorial video on how to install different kinds of cooling solutions: th-cam.com/video/EW1o758WRRQ/w-d-xo.html
Those mesh and glass panels can be mixed and matched on opposite sides. Mesh panels or glass panels from one side would fit on the opposite side of the case if you flip them top to bottom.
Just build a pc in this a few days ago.
The black one definitely look way better
Thanks for the review and thermal outcome, think I'll stick back to my NR200 due to thermal of high end cards gonna make CPU suffer more. Maybe a low-mid build will be much more suitable for this case... Still waiting for a NR200 successor in the future.
Indeed, I think this one is perfect for a medium build (or lopsided build with one OP component). For the higher powered builds the airflow and layout of the NR200 is the answer.
This case would be way better with solid single piece mesh side panels
Loved the build. I also love the Phanteks T30- I have it installed on my NZXT Z53/3090/Meshilicious mining rig- keeps the temps low
Idk why I just assumed the T30s wouldnt fit in the meshilicious. Im looking to build one soon and just love the look and performance of the T30s. Is the fit extremely tight or is it ok?
@@zizo5535 I have the nzxt z53 and w/that radiator and the Phantex you have a few mm of space between the fan and the edge of the mobo/GPU center frame. I have the front panels connectors routes so they don’t rest close to the front of the fans. You can do it. I’ll try and take some pix later, post on Imgur and drop the link here
@@Geezimac That would be great. Thank you so much!
@@Geezimac Just opened the link. Thank you for the detailed pictures. It seems like routing the mobo power cables is only possible by going downwards, like the way you did it. I love how you painted the T30s white to match the aesthetics. I also love white builds and was wondering today if the T30s would ever be released in white. Thanks again!
@@zizo5535 np. If you extend the mobo stand offs you may be able to route in between board/frame/GPU. I ruined my NZXT water pump block when I tried to vinyl wrap it white. I scratched the glass like crazy. I ended up masking everything off and painting in white- 2 weeks later NZXT announced their white AIOs😖 good luck on the build!
The mesh version looks like a budget version of the FormD T1; like how the NR200 is the budget version of the M1.
Budget doesn't always mean it's bad though 😉
👍Haha in fact it often works better
@@swizzler8053 I never spoke of the quality. You are the one that assumed I meant bad. In fact, I think the NR200 has pretty solid build quality, especially considering the price. I'm using one myself.
@@Unhomiee thats true bro.
I think they should have provided 2 additional mesh panels at this price point. The glass looks stupid at the top with barely anything on show and only serves to reduce airflow. I think it would look cleaner with mesh everywhere
Yeah, at the end of the day, you come back to square one and wonder what the point was other than a very unique look. 😂
@@MachinesMore I think that’s the only reason. Otherwise I guess it’s just a bigger version of sandwich layout
I think I will wait for the upcoming Silverstone SG16 itx case, which is basically a flipped SG13 tower itx case. I am personally just not a fan of pc cases using pci-e riser cards. Would be actually cool to see small ATX cases as well. Still think a 21L or so ITX case would be cool...so a 21L NR 200. Im personally burned out of the ITX craze and my current build is in the old, but classic Silverstone TJ08-E mATX case. The included 180mm high static pressure tunnel fan is amazing, but only but thing is only one available exhaust fan mount.
Do you think having full mesh panels on all sides would bring this case even with the NR200?
Great review. Very helpful. The Q58 case just arrived, but now I'm wondering about getting the OG NR200 or NR200P because due to the better thermals. I will be using a 12700k with 3070 (or better if able)
Really like your work!
Honestly, I'm skip the case completely, as the thermals don't seem that good and the glass panel dissent show off anything I really want to look at and just hinder temps.
If I did have this case of consider "opening the doors" while in use. All mesh panels would be good option and something if prefer over the glass.
I'm sticking to my NR200, Meshlicious & Ophion EVO for my builds.
Yeah, agreed, the glass panels show me the rad.. and some tubes 🤨
@@MachinesMore glad can be nice when done right, but in ITX cases usually lead to thermal compromises.
I'm a performance over aesthetics kind of guy.
I hate the split panels. They need a full mesh panel version of this case.
Yeah, it looks cool but then you wonder why you really need that. 🤣
Could you have gone without the bottom exhaust fan? I wonder if it really makes a difference.
Waiting for your air cooling system test on Q58...
Show us 280 mm in full build, pleeease 🙏
Lian Li be like "what's the current trend in PC Cases (Glass? Mesh?)? Okay Crank it to 11"
I have a question I just recently did a build using this very same case however after upon putting everything together I was concerned that it wasn’t gonna turn out how I wanted meaning everything was gonna work just fine.. turns out no the fan to the psu wasn’t spinning my aio lian li fans didn’t light up as well my ram glowed so I’m assuming the MOBO is getting power so then what did I do wrong I was going back and fourth with my father saying that perhaps the cables to the psu wasn’t installed correctly I followed pctechnicians Q85 build but felt my father rushed through the process because he wanted to see if it will power on knowing he didn’t know which wires goes where himself am I screwed????? Or can I fix this? My father keeps saying it’s my psu however I honestly believe he didn’t know what he was doing and rushed the process..help me get this thing turned around!!
Hello I really like the case and your review. Can you tell me if this would be fine
GPU RTX 3090 TI (Zotac 310mm long) + Water cooled Ryzen 7 5700X
I would put one fan as intake fan at the bottom
And CPU radiator fans would be blowing air outside to the top ?
Would you recommend something like that or i would have to choose another case. Thanks in advance
Wow, I'm shocked the T30's fit in here. I have the Arctic Bionix P120's in my Q58 setup and they're pretty close as it is, but I might have to look into T30's when they're a little more accessible. The Bionix fans on the Phanteks 240MP are doing a great job cooling my 5900X so far, though, so T30's are more of a dream, I suppose.
Yeah, I noticed the T30s are difficult to get right now. The thickness should be fine, the MP240 has a very similar rad thickness to the ML240 Illusion so assuming your riser isn’t pushed out a lot it should clear. What I’m a little curious about is if a regular 25mm fan will give better airflow in this case, for that I’m going to wait until the Chromax A12x25s arrive.
This case is begging for a custom loop. That'll solve the top exhaust/intake issue. I'm sure that video is coming soon. 🤓
Where did you find this in stock? I looked and couldn't find a vendor.
Hi Caren, at some point, yeah! It’ll need a few mods here and there to get it to where a bottom rad can be serviceable but we’ll get there. Newegg is the only US distributor right now that has them but I believe they are shipped from Lian Li directly.
hi there. Have you checked the ssd and vrm temps? I think if rad is set to intake it should lower those temps? (nvme-s, VRM, chipset). thanks
Have you tried with air cooling? It might get better numbers with cold top intake instead of hot radiator intake
Just a note that those graphs are very hard to read on mobile. Especially the labels
Noted for future reference. I’ll watch it on my phone and tweak 😀
Out curiosity, i wonder if you can flip and use this case vertically..? Any benefits with the cooling?
Do you think its possible to put this case on its side so it can be used like a console in a TV stand? Or would that choke the system too much?
Hey thanks a ton for the review and benchmarked results. Ive been eyeing this case recently, do you think it'd be an issue thermally speaking, for a 3070 ti and 5600x or should I look to the nr200 and just suck up no USBC on the front I/o
hello, did you build the project with this configuration and this case?
Are these completely stock cables?
Great review. Do you think having both glass on cpu side would be fine if I run a combo of sf600, 5600x, 240 aio, and 3060ti fe?
I want to say maybe, but I’d be a bit hesitant just because in my experience the PSU fan is going to kick on with your 3060ti power draw in a gaming scenario, and if it can’t draw air it’s just going to ramp up heavy. Granted, that level of power isn’t too bad but I have a feeling that the PSU will heat up and want to ramp fans to max (it’ll be super loud). But… try it and see what happens, it might be fine, at worst you have to swap the panels to vent the PSU. I wish it were just offset 1cm though, that would have made that orientation totally workable.
@@MachinesMore thanks for the input. Will definitely give it a try when it arrives. I wonder if there will be some custom glass/ acrylic panel that'd have have air hole cutout for the psu in the future.
With all the different posts about computers random shutdown with the 3070 and up, im wondering if that SF600 is a little on the small side with a 3080?
For sure, at load it’s higher than optimal but for this particular card and CPU it’s OK. The XC3 runs at reference power and the 3700X at OC and full load is ~100. I am going to take it apart and do some mods and at that point should have an 850W that’s not tied up that I will throw in.
i have lower cpu temps with 5900x and 240 aio
Can I do an atx power supply and a 3.5mm drive at the same time?
Yup, you’ll use the ATX bracket plus the 3.5” HDD bracket. No top rad though so best bet is a low profile air cooler.
Could you please let us know which make and model of 280 AIO fill fit in this case?
There’s a few restrictions on how long the rad can be, 325 is the absolute max but that requires removal of the hot swap SSD tray. For less restrictions you’ll want something less than 315mm. Something like the EK 280 and NZXT X63 (both less than or equal to 315mm) will be a better fit than the 320mm H115i I test fitted with, but any of these will require the fan to be above the rad.
@@MachinesMore Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply. I watched another review on TH-cam and the reviewer mentioned the poor compatibility for 280 AIO. It's really useful to have the exact measurements for the limitations.
Will saphire nitro 5700xt fit in this case?
It should, almost at the max length but all dimensions check out.
@@MachinesMore thanks for the answer. Now will wait to see your video about the aircooler build for this case. Really appreciate your review about this case, much thorough than other youtuber. 👍🏻
Thanks. Watched the video and cancelled my order just now.
Lian Li makes cool looking cases, but cooling performance potential and functionality wise leaves a bit to be desired. Hopefully the Silverstone SG16 gives NR200 some competition.
@@CknSalad That, and I am not a huge fan of the white version of the case. For the price premium over the black anodized version, I would have preferred an electrophoretic deposition finish rather than powder coating. Every thing else I don't like about the case he already highlighted in the video haha. I bought it originally because it was on a decent sale right now in Canada, but I can't see myself keeping it with the issues and the cooling performance it has..
I’m glad that was helpful to you. The case has its feature set that will be appealing to some, but a lot of folks like you might want better performance. Sounds like you made a confident choice. Thanks for checking in.
@@MachinesMore I already bought two cases because of your videos so I'm glad to see it change for once.