An ITX MASTERPIECE? Lian Li Q58 is Here!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- The Lian Li Q58 is aiming to be the best ITX case of 2021 with a ton of new features, great cable management, full size GPU support and some interesting airflow. But in a market with a lot of competitors like the NR200, the Q58 price and availability are probably two of the most important things. In this preview we look at where it stands.
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This case is freakin' dope! If the price is right it looks like my pc will have a new home in the near future.
Price is $119
@@DanGerbe That's an awesome price too
@@Itzz_Gamby I’m not into ITX, but I agree
Yeah its really appealing in our books.
@@DanGerbe Oh yeah I know. It's in the video. But with supply in the tech space in general being an issue these days I won't believe it until I see it out in the wild.
The removable bracket below the PSU is some seriously appreciated innovation
Completely agree with this!
ITX case makers have finally discovered cases can be modular...
Its not new big titan companys just dont want to rush things when they can slow roll billions of profit on old tech
@@LastSecBloomer Finally? Modularity with itx cases isn't new.
Holy crap. I'm such a fan of what lian li has been doing for itx, this and nr200 are gonna be super popular, we need more big case makers making amazing and affordable itx cases!
🔥🔥🔥 everything about this video is just amazing!
You fine gentlemen have both a similar editing styles. GuCCI!
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy my man bt
Except the PCI E riser, this isn't NZXT XD
is this better than the NR200?
I would love to see them give us the option of replacing that glass with a mesh panel. I think double mesh would look pretty cool if it carried on with the different colour and texture two-tone look.
Oreo
Heck yeah mesh is the future. Get with the program lian li. They should know better. They have some nice mesh cases already.
Yeah…the window really is ugly. Maybe if it had smaller bezels? Idk. It may have the same problem like really short and wide windows on "modern“ houses. It just looks unnatural.
They should have double glass option.
Having the top part not in mesh will force more air from entering the lower mesh part and is improving the GC cooling.
Wow this case looks incredibly well-designed and decently optimized. The attention to detail is as expected of Lian Li. Can't wait to see some builds and more revews in it!
Lian Li has been killing it lately. I love how modular and adjustable their designs continue to move towards .I even had a Lancool II that I accidentally destroyed the glass panel recently, but because of the design I was pretty easily able to disassemble and convert into a surprisingly capable and versatile open test bench.
I've been looking into doing my first ITX build lately and up until now I'd narrowed my case selection down to the Inwin A1 Plus. But depending on when other areas of the parts market stabilize and when Lian Li releases this model to the public, I might just have to end up using the Q58.
Thank you Hardware Canucks for another outstanding breakdown and review!
Personaly, I'd love to get a full mesh version of the side panels.
That said, I kinda do understand that they also have to sell towards the TG-obsessed market.
@@AravindVennu tempered glass
@Grayson Peddie Same. However, we have to admit we are not a representative sample of the current market.
@Grayson Peddie Yeah me too. Function before looks.
Personally I don't mind the look of this. The glass gives it a unique appearance, and it's still mesh where it really matters (in front of the GPU). In fact, it's probably beneficial to GPU thermals since a negative pressure setup would be forced to draw in all of the air directly in front of the GPU, not above it as well.
thats the Formd T1 literrally, so just get that instead lol
I've always loved Fractal, and Phanteks personally, but I can't deny that Lian Li are killing it!
Easily the consistently best 3 manufacturers in the space over the last year or two.
Cough Fractal Design Cough Era Cough
ATX PSU, 3 slots GPU, 280 rad, brilliant SSD position, and almost same size with Nr200?
This one is a dream....
how about now, are u get it ??
The only downside is that it dosent have a full mesh front panel but everything else about it is very good
@@boah-ist65 why would u need a mesh front panel
I just watched the a4 h20 from optimum tech who gave you guys a shout out! Half chub with all this itx everywhere
ITX chub
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A White/Silver version would be nice.
thats the Formd T1 literrally, so just get that instead lol
@@robertohernandez1642 No front IO and $210. No thank you. Although I cannot deny that that case is sexy lol
Harder to keep clean, but yeah. White would be nice.
@@robertohernandez1642 YOU CAN'T BUY FORMDT1s, they don't exist 🤣🤣🤣
White Q58 is out
This channel has more cinematography than some movies.
Imagine having 2 of them 1 in living room & 1 at desk and swapping the os & games inbetween the 2 setups in seconds. Wow what an idea. Hotswap everything
They should release it in like the end of April and do a full mesh side panel. I'd buy the whole stock
@@defeatatron5663 would fit me, but basically as early as possible
Same man, a full mesh would be a godsend
Yeah. Full sized side meshes. Then the case should be simpler, cheaper and - on my opinion - better. I like the dual tone look but I would not sacrifice the performance for it. With that in mind it should be quite a good option.
With all the price gouging going on... dont joke about "buying the whole stock" please lol
I do agree with full mesh side panels. Opinions may vary but I do like the mesh look.
Lian-Li is from Taiwan! Very proud of this company!
Thank you for your review and feedback! ❤❤
Make a full mesh option and ill be the first one to buy it ☺️
I love the aesthetic of this case, and I bet it's going to be really good for thermals compared to a lot of other ITX cases as well.
Great video, thanks for the content! The partial TG at the top had me excited, until you said the mobo is upside-down. Total head-scratcher, there! I like the idea of some mesh to improve airflow, the layout is good (allowing for a Top Rad, unlike the NR200), and there's a ton to like about this case! But it feels like the team designing the exterior panels maybe weren't talking to the folks engineering the internal layout. The two-tone look is nice, but if they're going with this layout (and thick black borders where the glass is adhered to the frame, as you can see @00:40 ) then it feels like the TG should take up 66% to 75% of the side (instead of just 50%). The point of TG is to show off your components, not your cables. It needs to be sized and placed on the case to achieve this; otherwise its just wasted cooling potential. Here's hoping they refine the design before summer - after 20 years of building PCs I'll be diving into my first SFF build this summer. The more case options, the better!
The Front SATA hot swop bay is a great idea. Makes it very clean and very accessable along with the fan hub. Nicely done.
Lian Li, please remove the tempered glass and replace it with a mesh, in ITX segment cooling is №2 priority after size.
This setup could actually result in better GPU thermals than a full mesh panel. Think about it, a negative pressure setup would be forced to draw in all of the air directly in front of the GPU, not above it as well. CPU thermals might suffer a bit, especially when the GPU is under load (although let's face it, a 280mm rad is more than capable).
It's actually quite a smart design imo, based on the more focused airflow design I'd expect it to beat similar cases like the formd T1 in terms of GPU temps. The fact that you can mount a bottom fan is pretty cool too, the double sided exhaust method worked amazingly well on the sliger SM580, and it should work just as well here.
More mesh isn't necessarily better cooling.
@@LyK0sayour are totally right and with this layout an air cooled system could perform better then an aio, because the rad is blocking the only viable exhaust.
I like how Lian Li actually care about other feedback and opinion! ☺️
I cannot wait for this case. This is my dream itx case. Imma get it when it's released and do a custom soft tube custom loop with that sexy 280mm aio compadability
It's amazing that it actually supports an ATX PSU. I've been wanting to move into smaller cases and was disappointed that the 011 Mini didn't support an ATX PSU as I don't want to give up my current PSU.
Got myself their 205M when I first built my PC, now i removed all the RGB and it lives in the O11 mini (so many more fans!), Now when I build a new PC I'll be moving my current build into that case after I get an ITX motherboard because I think it looks beautiful and would work well for bringing a PC to lan parties. Lian Li is definitely my favorite case manufacturer.
i can see the full potential of this case. 3 slot gpu, supports ATX psu (sacrifice one gpu slot), clean and unique look (i love it IMO), hot swappable 2.5 drive. i really do hope they finalize it right. This would be my next ITX case for my future build.
I like it. Finding a proper iTX case just got a little easier.
You know I can see someone saying I have a Q58 to impress someone less informed just to end up getting to their house to see this case.
They could bring this anywhere.
Lian Li just NAILS every case they make. Unreal. When it's time for me to upgrade, I think I'm going to slim down, build an ITX build, and this will be the case I use.
Really cool concept. I had imagined a similar TG/Mesh split side panel myself, but with a diagonal split with the mesh going to the bottom right corner and the TG the top left near the CPU.
looks pretty good but youre right about the tempered glass top section only showing off a radiator and cables. maybe lian li should just let it be aluminum and sell it for a few bucks cheaper?
if you look at the meshlicious (which is made by lian-li), the mesh panel is more expensive than tempered glass.
If they dump the tg panels, go all mesh and sell that version for 100$, I'm sold.
Not happening, lol. Mesh is most likely costlier than TG.
Add fanmounts to it and boom, incredible cooling as well
Or they can not develop anything, pocket the money, and be always out of stock on the current product. 🤔
This is the case I've been waiting for. Literally been hawking for an ITX case that won't make me buy an SFX power supply. Those are super rare and usually end up being large for an ITX form factor.
Immediate purchase when it's launched.
or you could buy a inwin a1 plus? includes a 80+ gold 650w power supply.
This is amazing! The SSD hotswap is awesome for getting footage off my Atomos Ninja V without an extra dongle Looking forward to this case
Came here from jay review and dude this case is amazing. I been meaning to get a good itx case and this makes it look simple to build. Will be looking to buy one soon
what's the point of the tempered glass? I'm confused
in my opinion, it looks really really good
Aesthetics? RGB?
What's the point of motherboards, cables, etc. in different colors? :D
@Tom Storm he means in this specific case. Even Dmitry said that the TG panels don’t show anything but the radiator and some cables lol
Lian li try something different.. Other cases either full glass or full metal... This case look beautiful with glass and metal. I take it the price is ok but not the cheapest
Its similar size as Raijintek Ophion Evo, some years old case, but i love it and use it for my daily ITX PC.
Love the LianLi, own their old "LanCool" brand DragonLord ATX case and love it - wish those type of cases would come back.
At 3:28 you point to a video that doesn't exist, just FYI. It might just be me though. Either way, great video as always. Love your case reviews.
Dimitri, the tempered glass and mesh panels are interchangeable and can be placed in any position, with glass or mesh on top or under and also with one side all glass and one side all mesh.
Route the power extension between the riser cable and the back of the motherboard, and it will disappear behind your GPU. Worked quite well for my setup.
You can have everything "Full Power" in the ITX space. They make SFX-L up to 1000W. I'm running top tier hardware in my NR200 with 280mm radiator and a clean install.
This is *great* looking case. Lian Li really diving into SFF, which is awesome to see.
all the best SFF cases are already made by Lian Li, just not branded as such
@@tommihommi1 well it's seems they're putting their own money into it now to lower the prices.
SSUPD Meshlicious ($120 w/ gen 3 riser), Dan A4-H2O ($120 w/ gen 3 riser; original A4 is >$200), now this.
your cinematography is off the chain dude, keep it up
My new case for my future AM5 build!
Lian Li has been my favourite case manufacturer since 2000, and now they have become better than ever!
I made stanky bass face during this entire video. This case is beautiful.
I 100% want this, this will be my first SFF build case
Update, after 11 months I just ordered everything to make a build in this case :D so excited.
This case would be fantastic if it just had mesh on the sides.. 3 Slot GPU!! Atx PSU!! in that small case. Everything i want, except for the random glass panel..
The CPU side panel if can swap from TG on the upper half to mesh it would be great. The reason being is the CPU is cooled by AIO which is mounted on the top, PSU can mount fan below to feed enough air for it. slight RGB leak from the mesh on the top looks nice too. GPU side top panel is TG, some GPU is not that tall, hence if they allow the mount of a small screen is not bad too. cheers, just my opinion.
i really like the look of the Tg and mesh panel, even tho there isnt much to show of
I fell they should do it like the nr200, where you can get a cheaper version with full mesh for those who dont care about the galss
@@quantumsniper9433 agreed
$119? What are Lian Li's margins holy moly they keep bringing out bangers
I kinda love it!! My only concern would be about getting air into the case... Would love to see the thermal results.
It would be the same as a nr200. Intake at bottom and exhaust at top
I've been getting bored of my Nouvolo Steck and have been looking for some new options with tempered glass like the CM NR200p and LL TU150. The only boutique case I like currently is the Form T1D but I don't know if I want to pay that much. This on the other hand ticks all my boxes and if it keeps the price under $150 CAD will be my next case to try my first custom loop!
What about a slim rad at the front of the gpu, and a barrow cpu pump block res?
The quality of this video is even higher than Lian Li's build quality. And that's not easy.
About time doe a matx case review 🤔 maybe one under $50 or $70 🤔🤔🤔
Cool case. One thing of note: I have the NR200, with the water cooler on the side, and I have it pulling air in. So even with the rad on the side, I still only get hot air out of the top.
Hot air rises, that's why top is always exhaust.
Just wanted to say thank you to You and Optimum Tech bringing itx cases to the attention of mainstream manufacturers.
Excellent showcasing of the testing. You have just added me to the ITX group. Keep up the good work.
Looks like they took your recommendations on board!
the updated version looks amazing and i'm definately waiting for this 1!
thanks so much! was about to pull trigger on the nr200 pleased i saw this
At first it made me really think of the FormD T1 (sadly no size comparison with it :( ), but the internals, especially the hotswap SSD and rotatable fan hub are really nice touches! I hope that some other manufacurers are gonna start making more SFF cases as well (hopefully while bringing something new to the table too)!
I'd still like to see brushed aluminum. Call me old fashioned, but it just doesn't seem like a lian li without it, and they do it so well.
Lian Li designs are off the scale. After the O11 this is another super design.
Kind of reminds me of the Lancool 2 mesh with its mesh side panels, and its competitive price point, oh and that Lian Li build quality that we all know and love.
This is definitely my next case coming from an Ncase M1
I agree with you about the view opportunities with regards to the position of the glass. Having said that, I usually avoid glass like the plague, even in midtowers, where are the opportunities of travel are significantly lower, and therefore unlikely to break it. But this design is the first one I've seen, with glass anywhere, that actually appeals to me. It would require thinking about how to build in it. I much prefer the idea of good airflow, and aesthetically, I find this two tone, mesh/glass, to be very pleasing and interesting. I might consider this for my next build, tho, I am really pulled to the nr200 still. I particularly like what you showed about the mechanics and build quality, and that is as important to me as aesthetics. (Airflow, price, mechanics and looks, in that order of importance)
Would love to buy this and install my imaginary GPU.
I really love the unique "Half Mesh - Half TG - Design". It is functional and looks good the same time.
Only this big bunch of front cables makes me a little nervous.
Finally an actual SSF itx case.
Nice to see more smaller cases hitting the market!
Lian Li is also helping Dancase to manufacture theirs - including a new case like the Dan A4 with 240mm rad support
I like it a lot.
Could be my next itx case if i ever move away from my Node 304
If they ever offer a full size mesh side panel, im 100% sold
Sir Canucks: This product is great, but with some problems.
Lian Li: Sure we`ll fix that later.
NZXT: *What I CAN`T HEAR YOU!!!*
That comment is FIRE! Lol
It was not fun to build in, but it was rewarding. Fitting a 280 in this thing is a headache. I have my fans in the top underneath the panel so that they wouldn't sit inside the case, cause i hate that in ITX builds. Sticking to the radiator piece they have the perfect size cutout on all 4 corners so that you can route you fan cables cleanly to the supplied fan hub. A+the rest of the cable just chills under the top panel. As the the side panels, mine are very stiff, especially the glass ones, they dont like to come off or go on. There's so much good to say, but some bad too. Like the GPU sits right against the spine of the case, which basically mean it's a pressure cooker. I found that at least with mine, it required a lot of dissasembly to assemble. I'm not new to ITX world. I have had cases that require a complete tear down of the case to even start a build. And this one seems like a case that would benefit from being able to remove more of the case. But the biggest thing is going to be that bottom fan panel. Thankfully it is removeable, beause my GPU cables were preventing it from spinning, and with a quick removal of the thumbscrew bam fixed in seconds. Definitely recommend a low profile 120 for that spot.
You did such a fantastic job with this vide-Ohhhh!!! You are helping Lian Li sell hundreds of these things likely. I hope they are cutting you in with more than just a free case!!! You did a full on advertisement video for them!!!
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That opening broll was just epic
7:40 side panels can be swapped like one whole side can be mesh, if you switch it with the other side.
I still prefer to TU150 because of the handle. Probably can't put as powerful a build in it, but I can live with that.
Lian Li really know what their doing! Seems like an awesome SFF! 🔥🔥
this is a good itx case but if they make the front all mesh and extend the depth to fit 2x 120mm fans for air in-take that would make this perfect ;) just a suggestion
they should make the panels swappable. Where you can put the TG at the bottom and mesh on top, or have a version with both mesh or both TG. TG bottom would make for a nice showcase for watercooled GPU.
What I haven't seen in any reviews of this case yet is that you can move the panels around and make it different. Lian Li shows this on the release video, I'd like to see someone actually do that and test it with the different scenarios.
the fact that i can buy a seasonic focus GX use the NVIDIA approved 12 pin modular cable from seasonic with my 3070 FE on an ITX build is amazing. To add the thermal performance of a full atx psu over a SFX...280mm aio support XD. I may have to move My nh-d15 based tu-150 build into this. Once i get a bigger GPU/psu need.
this case is everything we asked for
I already bought my black TU-150. I was trying to figure a mod for my great Seasonic ATX PSU (which I found on the web) and I wish it could have taken a 240/280 AIO. Alas this is my answer 8 months too late but still, I love my elegant TU-150. The Q58 solves my issues but it isn't as cool as my TU-150, knowing Lian Li they will have a solution for that too!
Riser cable only cases is really off putting for me, i just dont need something else that could be an issue when running a pc. Nr200p case is still the best itx case ive seen in a long time.
wft is that into music I NEED IT
Lian Li kinda outdid themselves here. This case has some quite ingenious options.
Want step down size-wise with the next CPU upgrade (most likely switching my 3700x with a 5800x3d), switch air cooling for a 240mm aio and also upgrade from 16gb RAM to 32GB. I guess this case will be perfect, even tho I'll have to go with a new PSU. My 5700XT Nitro+ will stay with me for at least till 2023, so I'm glad this case has actually the space needed for that GPU.
Can you do a video on a full custom watercooled build in this case?
wish they would remove the redundant ports on the front panel for a minimalist look. at least the headphone port can go (though some people may want and use them)!
this looks fantastic! the ATX PSU support, fan hub, airflow design, general versatility and great price are really unique. not quite ultra compact at 15L, but in turn it has huge compatibility for tons of fans, rads PSUs and even full size mass storage SSDs. matches perfectly with the external WD mybook HDD i have sitting here too.
I'm starting to think I want an ITX 5900x/3080 build. Even If I can't run everything balls to the walls, It would be amazing.
I don't really care for the ITX trend of having no front I/O. Nice to see Lian Li gave us some.
The case is definitely a fingerprint magnet will be good if that is better taken care of in the final product.
Full Build Tutorial Needed!!!
Could you do a temperature comparison between this and the NR200 when the final product is out, please?
Case looks really good, but my one major disappointment is the riser cable.
I currently have my system in a Shift Air 2, I had a horrible time getting my gpu to be recognized due to pcie gen 4 compatibility. I would love to see more small enclosures that find a way to not use a riser cable.
Beyond that though, I personally love the mesh sides and dual door design. At a $120 price point it's a very compelling case.
I hope there will be a possibility to have all mesh sides because that would be clean.
It would be super cool if you were able to buy another glass panel or another mesh panel so you can do full glass or full mesh
These small cases are so nice, I can't wait to build in a small case one day, imagine they're fiddly to build in but they're so nice. I have a Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh RGB coming tomorrow to replace my NZXT H510i. I ran 1440p 144hz on my brother's monitor. While playing COD it heated up quite a lot, GPU was about 80 and was loud so I thought I'd change to something with more airflow.
Can anyone tell me if my decision was correct or not? I have a 240mm AIO which is on the front of my NZXT case right now but I imagine with more airflow I should get a lot better temps all round and quieter?
They should have options for choosing what the side panel looks like.
Half Mesh, Half Tempered Glass
Full Tempered Glass
Full Mesh
Different configurations for different folks. It'd be a win then.. but I guess TG might mess up that vertical GPU orientation :l