Robert was delighted to be asked to do the voiceover for this incredible animation by Mark Linthicum looking at the truth behind which pollutes more - combustion engine vehicles or electric vehicles? Spoiler alert: It's not EVs! We are delighted to share this with you as it is another tool to expose the truth behind vehicle pollution, as well as asking what we can all do to help combat this. This is an open source project which means anyone can post this but please contact Mark via us at communications@fullycharged.show to get permission first. Let's get this shared far and wide!
"Open Source" is the wrong terminology. Open source means something else. This might be "Creative commons" assuming he has used a CC license. Open source means he is giving away the original media files and allowing anyone not only to republish, but also to rewrite and represent parts of this video without his permission. Open sourcing this animation would allow, for instance, an oil company to take the animation and put a different voice over and message on it, without having to ask permission.
Can you explain what open source means here? It has different connotations in the software world i.e. grants users the rights to use, study, change, and distribute the software to anyone and for any purpose Also I'm sure I'm allowed to post this video wherever I want as it comes under youtubes terms and conditions now? Can you clarify why I need Mark's permission first?
@@raidengodoflightenin you would be allowed to link to it, but you can't republish it without a license, such as an appropriate Creative Commons license. If it had a true open source licence you would (as I pointed out above) be able to republish it *and* modify it without the author's permission.
Ok... Now make a video how lithium mining is destroying the enviroment etc.... And how much of mining you would need to change all vehicles ships planes to electric!! What to do with billions of used batteries after..... I could write some more dont have the time.... Not a fan of all electric also not a fan of the all oil... The solution is somewhere in the midle....or some new tech.... Have a nice day.....
As I work in the renewables industry, I see first hand what the effect of renewable technologies do to the market, grid and consumers - for the better. That is why I bought an EV 3 years ago (and I'll never go back to a IC). And I just pulled the trigger on a solar/battery array for my home that will charge my car(s). Creating a "nano"-grid for your home is surprisingly affordable now. And Robert is 100% spot on - it starts with you. Work LOCAL. Change LOCAL and then once all of the local places implement their improvements it will spread. Great job, Robert!
Good job, Curtis. You're well on your way towards being energy self-sufficient. It feels good...and you can help your neighbors if/when their power goes out. Good luck with everything mate.
Funny, I used to be a fuel tanker driver. Now I am a cook and drive an EV, have electrified everything including my lawn mower and snow blower. And tell everybody how great that is.
@@ElyFrankes That's cool, yours is 18v right? The cordless tools I've been using are from a company called Swift, I think they're UK-based but they use 40v batteries instead!
Yeah, I definitely share this moment of "funny": Learned in the chemical industry 30 years ago, a Shell product lab associated to a vast refinery, being mocked at my activism against nuclear power by then. Now, at least I've ordered my first EV (indeed the first German solar electric vehicle, the Sion), built my own off-grid PV on my landlord's roof and replaced many petrol-powered appliances / tools and even some electric wired ones by battery-powered ones. It's fun beyond words! 😁
@@esk8jaimesMy chain saw, since a couple of days: Makita DUC353Z, using 2x 18V in series = 36V. Advantage: Compatible with my Makita screw/drill, angle grinder and planer.
Brilliant video. As an EV owner I am sick of the tired argument of " & where does electricity come from...." whilst completely disregarding where petrol & diesel comes from!
Definitly. None of this comes at a surprise, yet seeing it animated and explained in such a simple manner still makes it way easier to understand actually how polluting ICE cars actually are.
I live in Australia.. we have a country larger than the United States, only 26 Million People.. And FARMS, Larger than England, 1 million acres plus.. An Electric vehicle in Australia is about as useful as? "An Ashtray on a Motorbike".. 90% off Batteries, have TOXIC Chemicals in their make up, so you wont die from them, but your Grandkids will, when all the Dead, Tesla, Leaf, etc batteries, end up in Land Fill.. It is Fake economy, to have an electric car.. live in a Block of flats? have a power point to charge it? um nup.. unless you have dedicated charging in the Parking Garage.. I am a disability pensioner, I use my car about, once a month, if it was electric, it would have to be on a trickle charger.. Petrol, let it sleep, then when needed, jump in and start.
@@graemejohnson9025 This is not the right attitude for you to take. You're thinking ' it won't work for me so it'll never work.'. Think for the future and lobby your representatives in government to work towards evolving to the use of electric vehicles instead of internal combustion engines. Think about your grandkids, if not for the rest of the future generations that will otherwise be buried under the wasted energy expenditures and toxic emissions generated by the efforts required to fuel your gas powered vehicle. I vote for the cleaner (less polluting) option.
@@graemejohnson9025 Wow, it's like not only have you not watched the information video but not bothered to do any research yourself. Incredible! No rose tinted glasses here and yes range & charging speed is still an issue but not as great as is often promoted. We are only in the first real decade of serious investment in electric vehicle technology and the real story of electric cars is going to be this next ten tears. Already they have halved in price and doubled in range with the first of 400-500 mile cars starting to appear, something claimed as impossible only a few years ago by combustion car lobbyists. Expensive now obviously but the knock on effect is cheaper and longer range cars on the way. Electric Car Batteries are a serious investment and contain a significant amount of materials very much worth recovering which is why recycling them is now becoming a a rapidly growing industry, only slowed by the lack of batteries as they have long outlasted the predictions of doom sayers of a decade ago. As the video explained there is a life for batteries after their time in the car as energy storage and so it can be up to twenty years before they become available for recycling. It doesn't matter if you live in a tree house if you have somewhere to park then you have somewhere to charge. Here in the UK we now have appearing street slow charging bollards and even converted street lamps. Yes it will take time for infrastructure to be put in place but the move from combustion engines is a two to three decade plan. Let's not forget the first Combustion cars were for the very rich and you had to go to a chemist for fuel. If you only do short journeys you may only charge you EV a couple of times a week and there is no need to leave it on trickle charge they're not lead acid batteries although even those only ever needed a top up charge with storage trickle charging just a lazy practice. Charging technology now means you can automatically chose when to charge so as to avoid the peak cost times of the day. Well I hope this has helped... I doubt it... but hey worth a go. Keep well x
@@graemejohnson9025 I'm retired too so in my case, living in a more populated area in the US and doing far shorter trips to run errands to the store, an EV is much more efficient for my uses, however, you bring up an important point and that is the total amount of miles many of drive in a year. While my 2004 Pontiac GTO (Holden Monaro) and my 2016 Chevy Spark EV are both driven less than 4000 miles (6437km) the amount of pollution created by my ICE vehicle in operation is not too bad. The only problem is the more time the GTO sits, the more likely seals, brake rotors, belts, etc., decorate. BTW, I think you missed the part about the EV batteries are recyclable and in fact we'll be seeing more battery recycling operations happening in future. Also, there are many small shops the do EV conversions reusing older battery packs or creating their own battery packs using discarded laptop battery cells.
One way to get a EV charging option installed is to reserve a spot in a new development. It's much easier to convince a developer to include a charging option in the planning phase than after the fact. This is how I got 50% of parking in our condo with 16Amp 230V charging capability.
A question, many apartments already install electric outlets in the parking lots for car heaters, do those have enough output to charge EVs? It would probably only allow slow class 1 charging, but that is still better than no charging at all.
@@AnalystPrime Typically in Finland these "heating" outlets are rated for a maximum of 8 Amps and are limited by timer to operate a maximum of 2 hours uninterrupted, so are relatively useless for EV charging. The charging outlets in my case have "heating" socket and "charging socket" separately. The only thing different from a normal installation is the heavier cabling and fuses in the electric center. The Socket for charging is also much more heavy duty "super schuko" that is rated to handle 16 amp continuous charging without melting. My Granny cable charger pulls 12 Amps at max setting so 2.7 Kw which is enough to put 150-200km in the tank during a 10 hour charge. Separate from all this is of course that the "heating" outlets are un-metered and typically you pay some flat charge per year for using it based on expected average use so using one for charging is morally suspect.
That's really the best option for charging in condos. The morons in my city either insist on installing 1-2 DCFC stations that generate huge lineups, or the install like 5-10 11 kW chargers. People can charge overnight, 16 amps at 240v and you can charge pretty much any vehicle overnight. It's also MUCH cheaper to install 16 amp circuits, because they only need 12 gauge wire instead of 6 gauge wire, so you can build 4x as many charging spots for the same price. If people need a charge faster than 3.6 kW, they can go to a DCFC station elsewhere.
@@AnalystPrime I was able to get 4 miles per hour of charging at my Mom's wall outlet at her condo. If you are home 10-12 hours that is 40-48 miles per day. Several of the grocery stores I shop at have either level 2 or DCFC chargers. The level two give about 30-40 miles per hour and the DCFC will fill the car completely before you finish shopping. Unfortunately my work doesn't have charging, but the light poles in the parking lots could supply power to 2-4 cars at a slow rate and at a minimal cost to the company. I looked at buying a condo in the city closer to work than my house recently and while they did not have an option to charge my car in the garage, it was about 6 miles from work so I would probably ride my electric bicycle at least on the nicer days and save miles on the car altogether.
Love this video, I have independently looked at the peer reviewed research on these subjects myself and agree with the points made but there really should be a document attached to this vid with the citations for the papers and statistics mentioned. Would make it much more convincing for people already on the fence. Again, loved the video and love the channel, keep up the excellent programming.
It's mostly made up. When he started talking about Australian oil refineries it was just outright silly. There are only 2 small refineries kept open by constant government hand outs. 95% of Australian oil is refined overseas.
@@stevebuckley7788may be that wasn't the case when the video was published. That actually makes sense, because if they hate them so much, it's likely they shut some of them down.
@@bishoyrafik8995 The last major refinery (Sydney-Kernel) closed about 10 years ago so yes it's almost entirely made up nonsense. The main issues were unprofitable running costs and poor quality products not environmental concerns.
Hello, maybe you should have a look to the videos of "Le Réveilleur" about this and many other similar subjects. Sorry it's in french, but you can activate subs and he gives all the sources links in his comments.
Great video highlighting the supply chain of petrol/diesel, however I feel some of the figures quoted are a little meaningless without context. Its all well and good to say driving an oil pump consumes 1MWh a month - which could power a tesla for 35k miles, but how many petrol/diesel miles does that 1MWh pump deliver in an average car? (not forgetting the energy use throughout the remainder of the supply chain). If that pump delivers sufficient petrol to drive 100k miles for 1 MWh, then it’s a bit of a pointless statistic to be highlighting. I feel the video could really benefit from summarising the total electricity consumption for petrol/diesel to drive 1 mile in an average car, which would give a much simpler figure to compare and contrast against the average EV consumption for 1 mile. Not trying to detract from the message of the video, just feel it would benefit from some further clarity. Keep up the good work!
8 kwhs of electricity is used per gallon of gas or diesel refined when you count from well-pump station. At least that is the figure I found when searching from a couple year's ago.
Can't remember the source, maybe a presentation by ICI at my grammar school, or at university, but I saw some statistics around the mid-1970's, showing the (in)efficiencies of different fuel sources for generating electricity. From memory, coal is something like 1% efficient, oil is about 0.1% and nuclear is about 0.001% efficient, when the whole process of extracting, refining, transporting and burning, plus the building, running and decommissioning of power stations, and the transmission losses are taken into account. Some online searching will have to be done. In cars, petrol engines are reckoned to be a maximum of 25% efficient, and Diesel engines are calculated to be a maximum of about 30% efficient, thermodynamically. (This agrees with the 70% loss mentioned in the video.) Reading about the Carnot Cycle is enlightening, because it explains the reasons why a piston engine cannot even be close tom100% efficient. Then there are friction losses in the transmission, aerodynamics and tyre friction losses. In addition, there are losses whilst warming up and idling an engine, and varying degrees of efficiency in the engine itself as rpm, load, climate and air pressure change. These all add up to an average overall efficiency of closer to 15% for petrol and 18% for Diesel fuelled cars, in terms of the available energy from burning the fuel. For a well-designed EV, 'fuel' efficiency, taking into account all transmission and other friction losses, plus power losses between wind farm/solar PV farm, charging, discharging and electrical resistance losses, is about 70%. This was explained quite well in one of Robert's videos within the past year. Manufacture, transportation, running and decommissioning the generating equipment will be markedly less inefficient than doing the same for fossil and nuclear fuel power plants. I've made solar cells, and have some idea about the large amount of energy which goes into making them. But once made, they will work fine for at least 25 -30 years - close to the working lifetime of some nuclear plants - without requiring any power supply, other than sunlight. The Silicon can then be recycled at no greater cost than producing the material for the arrays in the first place. As far as I can see, the only real potential source of pollution from wind turbines is the fibreglass which is used in making the blades. Perhaps carbon fibre could be a better substitute for it, but that's outside of my experience.
@@RWBHere very well thought out reply. Wind turbines are now being recycled at a plant in Pittsburgh. They are able to reuse some of the materials and for the rest it's being added to cement. I imagine like battery recycling for evs this will also scale up and gain efficiency over time. 🤔
Well said, Simon. It would be helpful for all of these totals (of inefficiencies from burning fossil fuels) to be calculated and compared to the efficiency of using Electricity in EV cars. We have a lot of numbers, but no direct comparison(s) between the TWO car options for consumers. Maybe a 2nd video is needed or at least a revision.
You missed the point of including pumpjack electric usage, or you stopped watching the video and missed all the other electric and energy inputs needed to create fossil fuels. Of course a pumpjack is going to produce more energy than it consumes. That's the whole purpose of the endeavor to drill oil out of the ground. Then add-in transportation, refining, and engine loss, and all the other added expenses on the vehicle such as exhaust, (which an EV does not need), and the life-cycle of ICE vehicles is always going to be far more polluting and energy intensive than an EV. The cost savings themselves (1/2 the cost per mile in some cases, like Semi freight) point to higher efficiency. This animation simply drives the point home!
Yes, a great big picture view. The one detail not covered is that "gas pumps" are also electric. And every drop of fuel pumped into every customer tank requires electricity.
I live in Australia.. we have a country larger than the United States, only 26 Million People.. And FARMS, Larger than England, 1 million acres plus.. An Electric vehicle in Australia is about as useful as? "An Ashtray on a Motorbike".. 90% off Batteries, have TOXIC Chemicals in their make up, so you wont die from them, but your Grandkids will, when all the Dead, Tesla, Leaf, etc batteries, end up in Land Fill.. It is Fake economy, to have an electric car.. live in a Block of flats? have a power point to charge it? um nup.. unless you have dedicated charging in the Parking Garage.. I am a disability pensioner, I use my car about, once a month, if it was electric, it would have to be on a trickle charger.. Petrol, let it sleep, then when needed, jump in and start.
Battery powered cars are middle class westerners wet dreams. It's all BS. Electric grids won't cope with demand Battery technology is reaching its limits with lithium and cobalt (cobalt mining never mentioned) There are no other elements in the earth to develop for such batteries. Oil,gas and coal will still be extracted for power stations providing AC electricity for the EV batteries to power DC motors- the technology of the 19th century. It's all BS!
@@MrMusic1950 British cities had zero emission electric vehicles from 1890-1966. They were trams, trolley busses, trains and underground systems. Perhaps,in urban areas,the ridiculous and inefficient desperation for "private" transport, needs to be looked at again.
I live in Australia.. we have a country larger than the United States, only 26 Million People.. And FARMS, Larger than England, 1 million acres plus.. An Electric vehicle in Australia is about as useful as? "An Ashtray on a Motorbike".. 90% off Batteries, have TOXIC Chemicals in their make up, so you wont die from them, but your Grandkids will, when all the Dead, Tesla, Leaf, etc batteries, end up in Land Fill.. It is Fake economy, to have an electric car.. live in a Block of flats? have a power point to charge it? um nup.. unless you have dedicated charging in the Parking Garage.. I am a disability pensioner, I use my car about, once a month, if it was electric, it would have to be on a trickle charger.. Petrol, let it sleep, then when needed, jump in and start.
It should also mention where the coal and gas come from for the power station and what happens with radioactive waste from nuclear power. Otherwise it is not a properly balanced argument.
It's obviously biased towards EVs. I'm an EV advocate, but I don't think this video is going to change many minds. Maybe (hopefully) I'm wrong. I will add, I had never considered the amount of electricity required to pump oil. That was eye opening. Numbers like that would sway people more IMO than snarky cartoons.
If only this were bunkum, sadly it couldn't be more factual. Why is it that, as humans, it's even a debate?!!? Who actually wants to breath and use dirty fuels?!? We'd have to be insane!!! Funnily enough, we've got lithium places next to our refineries, the smell from our refinery can be intense, but the same can't be said for the lithium! Such a brilliant visual illustration!!! Very well done!! Nice to see you getting blunt Robert!!!
@You Tube Imports are done for both economical, environmental, and socioeconomical reasons. I don't believe you even understand the basics of electricity making such a stupid statement saying that every home should generate it's own electricity. I don't speak to idealists I speak to realists.
@You Tube Then how much will that cost? Do we have enough batteries to make that happen? What are the maintenance costs? What are the costs of that type of installation to begin with? How many people can afford that installation? Provide me with at least these basic numbers then we can talk.
Problem with your analysis is you do not state that these exact same processes used for drilling, pumping, refining and transporting is used for Electricity powered from "dirty sources" as well. @10:20 Coal doesn't just magically appear at the power plant!
In the UK coal makes up around 2% of our power generation. and is being phased out. Meanwhile renewables make up around 40% and is growing. By 2030, every home in the UK is set to be powered by wind.
@@daydreamer8373 Coal will be gone in a few years time. A contract has been signed between the UK and Morocco to import 3.6GW of electricity per day. They are building solar farms in their western desert. 3.6GW is about the same output of DRAX which is one of the largest power stations in Europe. The cables will run through Spain, Portugal, France and the sea. Those countries will also import energy from Morocco. Poor Morocco has found an industry.
Whilst I get the point that you are making and the reason for doing so, what I’d really like to know is the energy cost of extracting, refining and transporting the 55 litres of fuel that I pump into my gas tank. (Rather than the energy costs of all the oil in the world, not all of which is used to power cars.)
Isn’t the fact that you waste 70% of the fuel you burn as useless heat in a vehicle enough to convince you how wasteful ICE engines are? You’re looking at this all wrong. It’s not about you!
@@billcichoke2534 I'm not sure what you mean. I have talked to hundreds and hundreds of polish people and they are not educated on the subject due to a lack of videos like these. Not just polish people most people from most countries can relate. I just said polish because I can speak polish I would of said russian for example but I can't speak Russian
@@gerardjachymiak5822 What you assume is ignorance, might be an unwillingness to give up prosperity for someone else's version of progress. As you know, they've had their fill of that over the last however many decades...
Inspired in part by youtube channels like yours I recently switched from a petrol Peugeot 208 to an electric Peugeot e-208. I am amazed at how incredibly vast the difference is between the two, even though they’re basically identical cars with the only difference in the power train. I will never go back because the electric Peugeot is so much more fun to drive, more powerful and less stressful. I am convinced that once you get someone to try an ev they’ll most likely be converts within minutes. Unless they’re only interested in how much engine noise a car makes because there is none... 😂
Welcome aboard. I made a similar move years ago into a Chevy Volt Hybrid then replacing another vehicle with a LEAF. There is no going back once you try driving electric. This year I am installing solar on the house and wiring in a new 50a outlet in the garage near the doors while I wait for the Cybertruck. Never ever going back.
It's always baffled me how someone can attach sentiment or emotion to a noise...... but then I'm one of these people who likes no noise. The less the better....
If there were a problem with Lithium mining they would talk about it. The best argument u will ever need. Incredible. That sounds like "Source: Trust me bro" thing...
It would have been good to throw in oil sands oil. The mine I used to work In used over 400,000 liters of diesel every day. Yes every day, not every month. That was an average size mine, there were bigger mines than that. And as far as I'm aware there was at least seven mines in operation. CNRL Horizon CNRL Albian Suncore Fort Hills Suncore Millenium and Northsteep Imperial Oil Kearl Syncrude Mildred Lake TEC Resources Frontier The haul trucks we used were CAT 797Fs which have a fuel capacity of 7500 litres. This wouldn't even last 2 12 hour shifts. The mine I worked at had roughly 65 of these trucks, somewhere 797Bs which are even less fuel efficient. Even if 50 of the trucks were running at any one time that would be 375,000 of fuel every day just for the 797 haul trucks. But they also had CAT 793 trucks, which are smaller and burn 400 litres of diesel every hour. Some other mines use diesel electric haul trucks which are apparently a little more fuel efficient, but ours didn't. That was only the haul trucks. If you count all the support vehicles and hundreds of pickup trucks we had, then the fuel consumption figure gets even higher. And that's only the company vehicles. I didn't even mention the army of contractors that worked there, some of them with their own haul trucks. That is just diesel every day. They also used vast amounts of natural gas and electricity everyday. Natural gas to boil the water to make the bitumen slurry, so it can be pumped down the pipelines to the next stage of processing, and generate the electricity which was done on site, yes they had their own power plant. Add to that all the chemicals that have to be added to the slurry in the frothing process to finally create the synthetic crude oil. And that is just 1 mine which was actual open cast mining. Most oil sands operations are not mining but rather steam injection to get bitumen is that further underground. Steam injection uses huge amounts of natural gas to generate the steam to melt the bitumen to get it to flow to the surface. This happens every hour of everyday of the year. It only ever stops for planned maintenance shutdown (refurb and repair)work that happens maybe once a year. And to think that the vast majority of the oil produced, 60% to 70%, will be used for transportation. I would love to see an updated video including this type of unconventional oil extraction.
I think you only need to look at the impact COVID has had on drastically reducing vehicle emissions by virtue of lockdowns - the pollution indices have never been better. I have been able to see the horizon day after day whereas it was a very rare occurrence before.
Absolutely! Look how fast the world started healing itself from this pollution when we stopped pumping the carbon into the air. I mean it started changing almost immediately:) this shows that if we changed now and started using electric or fuel cell cars it’s not too late to fix the planet. We can still reverse this mess we created. But everyone has to be on the same page and our government especially here in Texas will not change so easily.
Go outside and see it for yourself mate : ) Also try visiting a harbour where oil tankers dock and maybe visit any refinery nearby. Its not pretty :) There are plenty of sources online.
Yes. The calculation of 43,500 pumps using up 4,300 GW hour/month of electricity comes out, in electricity costs, close to $300,000,000/month which makes it believable that the equivalent amount of electricity would power 15,164,100 EV's which roughly comes out to $20/month per EV. It would be good to see how many barrels of oil are pumped out for this cost as oil enriches the society when it is processed overall. Providing objective numbers and where they come from as evidence should be part of every such argument.
@@TinMan111112 I'm not worried about mathematics. Where did the figure 43500 come from? Where did the power consumption of each well come from? I cannot refer people to this video in good confidence as the sources are not listed. The information is probably correct but is worthless without the referenced sources.
I'm afraid some is just plain wrong. The shipping industry is regulated and the introduction of IMO 2020 Specs or the use of scrubbers was definitely a major step in the right direction. Personally, I am all for the electrification of the transportation industry but I think Rob needs to be a little less preachy. Not all of us can afford to change our cars, when my car needs to be changed it will be for an EV but not trading in a perfectly usable car, at considerable cost, until we've had value from our present car.
@@simonmackenzie4227 Preachiness is always a bad thing when trying to get people to take you seriously. However, presenting balanced views seems to be regarded as heresy in these days of comfirmation bias. This could be reworked to give a bit more balance, but then it would be more boring...
Missing Information in Animation: Regenerative braking - imagine internal combustion engines start producing gas when you hit the break! On traffic, if I don't move my car my gas gets constantly used which is not the case in EV. Great animation though!
Technically not true. Whilst I applaud the efforts to move to EV, current ICE cars have regen braking to recoup and use on ancillaries, coasting, and even powerboosts and step of acceleration. Almost all new ICE cares also have stop start, so when sat in traffic, the engine is off. Again, want to push for EVs but lets not be as bad as the ICE supporters by going as low to misrepresent.
@@leebutler9470 I absolutely hate stop start and I can tell you that people just turn that setting off. They never use it. The rest of what you said is correct tho.
@@leebutler9470 Yes, don't want to misrepresent ICE. But I'm 39 years old from India and hearing this stop-Start technology for the first time - it's not at all common here. Regen breaking in ICE? Does it exist? OMG we are far behind - might be very top-end car selling here which might have this kind of tech - but 99.9% of the Indians are not at all using this and are polluting the environment for 100% sure.
@@leebutler9470 I wasn't aware that any production cars had implemented KERS. Can you give an example? EDIT: The Volvo 2020 XC90 has it, but I can't find any others. It certainly doesn't seem widespread.
Great video, but should also have mentioned a little bit of minimal loses of energy with the electric model too - transmission losses, and 10% loss with battery storage, just for the sake of completion and giving the full picture. The aspect ratio is also a bit weird and distracting. Otherwise, great work!
It's all very compelling. But the EV industry isn't so squeeky clean when all energy and life of service is considered. EVs don't just pop into existence nor does the infrastructure required to keep every single EV charged.
It was obviously a bit exagerated, the oil pumping production and consumption are not 100% used to fuel cars, there is a big industry behind.... But in the end of course it is clear that the production of electric energy should go almost directly to charge cars instead of wasting it on oil stuff..
70% is gasoline and Diesel though, the rest is, or used for Petroleum coke, still gas, asphalt, naphtha, lubricants, waxes, bunker fuel, plastic products, synthetic rubber, fuels for heating & cooking, additives for gasoline, Kerosene & Kerosene-type jet fuel, heating oil.
60% of all oil pumped is used for transportation. 70% in the United States. Just multiply the figures by 0.7 to get the actual figures for the United States.
A fossil fuel engine can't run at high efficiency until warmed up. Most journeys are too short. In cold climates the vehicle may not even reach optimum efficiency very often.
I took out the data for this film, it would be a good idea to have this in table form. Oil is found 1900 meters One jack pump takes 9.96 MWh per month An EV can drive 34,860 miles, enough for 3 years 435,000 jack pumps in US uses 4,300 GWh per month 4,300 GWh can power over 15 million EVs each month Deep sea pump uses diesel generator 20 to 30 tons of diesel per day electrical eq is 300 MWh per day 1,470 offshore rigs uses 1.3 TWh per month this would power 19.5 million EVs per month 337,000 miles of pipeline in world for transport 542,914 km for 199 million bbl per day we consume Pump stations use energy Ships contribute 1 billion tons of CO2 per year, oil shipping is 10% Refinery heats oil to 427°C / 800°F for 100 million bbl per day Refinery is largest pollution source where they are After refining, it’s transported and an ICEV is 30% efficient at best. US power sources 47% clean / 53% dirty Europe 56% /44% dirty Australia produces 50% of lithium OZ has 1% of oil use in world, refine only 1/4 of their oil, and it’s worst pollution source in OZ
@@doomguard731 Exactly what is fake about this? Your comment's lack of substance is what is sad here. Not to mention the irony of using corruption as an argument against a green change. IF there's corruption involved in the change towards a more sustainable future, it will never surpass the level of corruption that has taken place in the oil and ICE-industries through history, with Dieselgate being the last perfect example.
@@DJTFan2024 Where's the logic in that? Why would governments need to blame the environment for raising taxes, limiting rights, etc.? They could easily do that without an excuse, or with a less elaborate excuse if they thought they needed one. Besides, how do you explain the 99% consensus among climate scientists? If you believe 99% of climate scientists could be involved in a scam, I guess you also believe in Santa Claus? Stop and think about where the real money in the world is and who has anything to gain from what. The real money in the world is in petroleum products. If anyone wants you to believe a lie it's the people who stand to benefit from a continued production of petroleum products.
@@NoMoYOUsernames enjoying your life in la-la land? It is a scam. Man made climate change is another way to say communism. 99% of so called scientists are liars. The liberal governments paid those so called scientists to say those things, so more people can fall for the scam.
It should also be pointed out that power stations have to be fuelled by something whether it is coal, gas, oil or nuclear. These fuels have to be mined one way or another and then transported either by pipeline or tanker so power generation for EV use is not as clean as it is portrayed here. However, in overall terms, switching to EV's is still a no brainer especially with home power generation
Good video! I was expecting to hear about cobalt too and the overall efficiencies from well to wheel, but it's still a very good educational video 😊 Good job Mark and Fully Charged!
I agree. Still an informative and hopefully convincing video.The cobalt mining problem is often used to critisize EVs, so leaving that question out may leave some ammunition for the 'dark side'.
@@henriklund6179 agreed. I understand (from data that may be a little old) that 50% of cobalt is used in batteries. 5% is used as catalyst, mostly to desulphurise oil, so it's a small amount, but not nothing. Also, cobalt-free batteries will come. Having said that, nothing will ever be totally clean...
I think the biggest problem with fuel stations are the underground fuel tanks which must be constantly monitored for leaks and removed . Very costly to clean up the site for other uses, more than the land is worth.
The fuel station takes little power. The 'C' store attached to it sucks a lot of power. Replacing pumps with charging stations won't change the 'C' store.
♥ Love this. But sadly it only mentions that a ICE engine efficiency losses 70% energy but then never mentions its only 15% for an electric car. This needs to be hyped more. Ultimately this is what saves lots of energy, less pollution and money in the end. And this is why EVs will succeed.
Will it really make That much difference? Once up to speed I’m not convinced EVs are quieter outside. Maybe during traffic jams it’ll be quieter though.
@@SquareoftheyearFM I've found that, I don't think EVs are any quieter at motorway speeds. The main noise is tyre noise, you don't hear engines next to a motorway.
Road conditions are a factor in car noise. Have you ever noticed how quiet cars are on new pavement? Have you also noticed how freaking loud pickup trucks are? Some young people also modify their cars to be louder. Some people, mostly men, like their vehicles louder than everyone else on the road. I walk every day around town and loud cars, mostly pickup trucks, pass me all the time. I can't wait for EVs to dominate the road.
@@matchrocket1702 pickup trucks aren’t really a thing in the UK same as in the states. Also people tend not to modify cars here so much as insurance can be expensive for modified vehicles, especially for younger people.
@@SquareoftheyearFM People in the States have this thing about their cars. To many they are an extension of their egos. The bigger the noise, the bigger the ego, the bigger the...
Excellent, thanks. It used to be called a "Well to wheel" analysis, possibly still is, but so many people do not have the full knowledge of all the factors in the chain from well to wheel. For balance, there are transmission losses for electricity and charging losses, and of course efficiency losses in the EV car. The big factor is how much renewables we now produce, which really nail the argument for EVs, of course the localised pollution level is a big factor as well.
Well done, Mark Linthicum and Robert! This explained so much of the inefficiencies of ICE cars as opposed to ELECTRIC. I'm going to show my stubborn family this video and it might change some minds. I've owned a Fiat 2013 500e for years and have saved THOUSANDS of dollars...in fact the savings have paid for the cost of the car - bought used for $8,500 back in 2015. If I was still driving an ICE car, I would've thrown an additional $10,000 up into the atmosphere...at least according to my most recent calculations. Keep up the great work, Robert.
my father didnt allow a renter to install charger for electric scooter because he was afraid of battery explosion , but when i give all the data now we also own an ev
not keen on the taxing part, that will only make it hard for people to afford a new electric car and those taxes will be used on electric vehicles anyway, people will want a charging station at every parking lot, including apartment parking when electric cars overtake diesel anyway
This is so cool! It addresses such a dark and nasty subject in a way that is easy to follow and understand, and is fun to watch too. And obviously it is spot on. Love this video.😍😍👌👌👍👍
Great video, always wondered what happens to the battery after they no longer work in cars. What about this for an idea why can't we lease the battery when we buy a car that would make the cars a lot cheaper to buy and when the battery dead just replace and carry on with the lease. An old car with dead battery could have a new life with a replacement lease battery.
That's unfortunate to hear. There will always be people who are adamant about their decision. However, the vast majority of people are more than willing to keep an open mind. I think our efforts are best focused on the latter cohort!
Or the two guys I met on here some time ago. One was utterly solid in his belief that electric cars would need (quote) " the battery and electric engine replacing every 3 years".. Another steadfastly refused to believe my Kia came with an 8 year battery warranty. "Impossible" he said.... "electric car batteries only last 4 years". Neither had owned or driven an EV.... You make your own mind up.. I did! The sheer amount of misinformation, and sometimes total b****cks is breathtaking at times..... I do actually wonder if these people are plants, working for the big oil giants?
Your Step Dad sounds quite like the guy in one of Les Dawson's jokes. This guy was extremely highly skilled, yet could not find work anywhere. When asked what was his trade/skill, Les replied " he was a Zeppelin builder".. Mention to your step dad that we didn't leave the Stone Age behind because we ran out of stones......
Volumetric density of diesel is 0.85kg/l so when your animation says cubic metres (which isn't m3 btw) it's not correct to state the same figure in metric tonnes.
@@rogerstarkey5390 I think more "accuracy". Important here as otherwise the petrol heads and oil barons will point out these numeric inaccuracies to trash the whole video.
That was awesome guys! Well done. I just watched it when my 5 year old son and he loved it, he asked if we can watch it again tomorrow night. High praise! He particularly liked the various smashing and bashing and people getting run over 😂
Brilliant. Simple enough even for politicians and journalists. What is the proposal to get it to them all or do we each have to do our own MP and newspaper? Do we need to ask?
the video has a good basic idea. but I think one could have been more specific on the facts. I want to know exactly how electric cars and ICE compare 1 to 1 in terms of consumption. Also it is not very impartial. This is especially a problem if you try to convincing the people that hating electric cars. For example: why dont you compare the co2 or energy that a car uses in a lifespan of a ICE car vs a electric car from production to end of life. But still i like the video. I would love to see a part 2
Nicos -- I had the same thought. This is a wonderfully informative and entertaining video, but it lacks mathematical rigor. It would be great to pair it with a video that really attempts to calculate the wells-to-wheels carbon footprint of two cars -- one EV and one conventional -- over some arbitrary distance -- say, 1000 miles. It should also include the amortized impact of producing and disposing those vehicles. Of course, that all gets a bit murky, due to the large number of assumptions one would have to make (and clearly state). It would be a bit difficult to make such a video entertaining, but maybe this fellow is up to the task. In the summary, I'd envision a chart with two stacked bars -- each bar showing all of the various components of one car's carbon footprint. The video is also vulnerable to criticism of some of it's facts. It gives the impression that all lithium batteries are repurposed, then recycled. That's a laudable goal, and technically (if not economically) feasible today. However, it is FAR from the current reality -- about 5% recycled. When you provide one opening for attack, the end result may be to give disbelievers an excuse to dismiss your whole argument. On the whole, I think that this is a great job, if carefully advertised for what it is.
@tie pup I'm not really disagreeing with the main point here -- EVs are a better solution. I'm just saying that this analysis, while entertaining, is not complete enough. It should provide some links to those "numerous studies over the years" that you cite (sort of). Unfortunately, those tend to be dry. A combination of mathematical rigor (with clearly stated assumptions) and this creator's entertaining presentation style ... that would be great.
Too many figures would have made it unwatchable for many. It got the message across in a light hearted way. Anyone who seriously wanted more information regarding statistics and figures, would doubtless find them.
It was a great video with plenty of good data, and I agree with all of it. However, it seems almost slightly aggressive towards the ICE option, which will put off quite a few people on paying attention to the factual content. I would think toning down the fraction of aggression would tie the video together nicely and would actually result in more people being convinced. That is the goal after all, as mentioned at the beginning. I don't believe I am baised in saying this, as I agree with everything said in the video.
Great video. I found the stats really interesting regarding the energy used to pump oil out the ground and how it was compared to number of EVs that could be run for a month. It would have been great if that could have been applied to oil refineries, shipping of oil and wasted energy from burning petrol and diesel. And then providing a cumulative total.
Also anyone who starts to say 'Well what about manufacturing solar panels transmission lines EV batteries etc' Tell them how do you think they build pipelines, oil derricks, wells, ships and also internal combustion engine vehicles etc? Compare what needs comparing. Love my EV
The only issue I have with this is that not all of that oil is being used for powering cars. Apparently, in the US it is 68% transportation and 26% industrial, with the left overs being split between residential, commercial and electric power. I'm guessing plastics will remain a thing, if only for medical purposes. Generally speaking, a good video and I will be buying my first electric car either this or next year.
@@nmtb1972 there are much more issues, starting with the fact that the source is biased - if this would come from something like "engineering explained", we could assume it's neutral, but in a channel like you can suspect it's biased, and it is - strange figures and no references to anything.
@@mylesrussell allright, let's compare. Pipelines - it's metal. Oil derricks - it's metal. Wells - it's metal. Ships - it's metal. Engines - mostly metal, could be almost fully metal [if not for weight and cost saving on plastic parts]. They all can be stored for long time, nothing happens to them if they are stored for decades in right conditions, and once they are done - they can be simply recycled in a cost effective way - you probably have noticed scrap metal merchants, and they are buying the scrap metal, not you paying them to take your scrap. Meanwhile - lithium ion batteries - AFAIK they cannot be recycled in a cost effective way, only processed to be buried as dangerous waste - in case I'm wrong, you can give a source that says the opposite. And, unlike engines, they have built in clock that starts to tick once they are made - while engines are being worn by milage, cold driving and starting, batteries are being worn by charge cycles and age - meaning an engine could last for you 30 years and more if you don't drive much, but no battery will withstand that. Solar panels - once they are done, they are toxic waste, with probably the same story as batteries. Wind turbines - once they are done, they are BIG waste, especially the blades. Btw - isn't it strange that without any taxes, "inefficient" internal combustion engines and supporting infrastructure would result in cheaper costs per mile than "green" EV's, especially if they are powered by "renewable" energy? The future is very bleak, and the first signs are already apparent - like the illustrative trip between Stockholm and Nice done by some swedish car magazine, where nine charges of Jaguar I-Pace was three times as expensive than three tanks of diesel fuel for Volvo XC60, despite hat fuel having hefty duty on it. Or the very fact that in Germany fuel costs for EV are slightly lower than for diesel - if you will add to these electricy costs duty and additional price increase due to push for renewables, then you will get higher costs than currently for V8 petrol engine - nice, isn't it?
@@mshathlonxp That plus the electrical grid can't handle EV's. California cries for EV owners to not charge therir cars during "peak" periods and the ban on selling internal combustion engine powered cars hasn't taken effect yet.
Open source is basically 'do whatever you want with it', asking for permission is not open source. It is more like good will or closer to Creative Commons.
Thanks Robert, I've sent you an email about sharing it. I am building two new homes to sell on and I will include EV charging in the build. Dedicated chargers are a little expensive here but I plan to put in the wiring for a home charger and install a caravan plug so the buyers / tenants have some options.
You have missed things here, the oil pumped from the ground is used in oils, greases, aeroplanes, ships and most importantly, plastics to produce all the plastic in cars and many other goods.
Yes it's ironic that the thing that caused the widespread adoption of petrol cars was an electric motor. The starter motor. As most women at the time were loath to start a car that could break their arm.
Electric engines and batteries back then were so weak it makes perfect sense they were replaced. Unfortunately it took decades to find tech that could replace them as well as the other options.
An excellent start and is just what I have been trying to put together myself in my own mind eyes, but it does need to be tweak to suit the audience it’s targeting. Kids would be the best path way to the parents, so that if shown in school and shared in school with the kids, they take it home and ask mum and dad, which one of these do we use electric or fossil? To the adults a different approach would be needed maybe adverting on TV with some like Octopus or any other green energy supplier. It’s called telling truth something that has been needed for a very long time, and is well over due. Well done and keep up the good work! So please let me share!!
@@papasmith7648 Electric car fan here. I think e-fuels and hydrogen are a valid option for a vast number of applications, I don't think that ground-based motor vehicles are one of them. At least not for 90-95% of all vehicles.
You can buy Aspen synthetic petrol now. It's used by tree surgeons and guys who use petrol garden machinery. It has no smell and doesn't go "off" like unleaded does. Sitting in a van with the smell of petrol fumes can make some people violently sick. You can get fuel stabiliser to prevent unleaded going off though..... The main issue with producing synthetic fuels will be the cost. The Aspen I mentioned is double the price of unleaded...... There is some fancy synthetic petrol being developed which looks promising. But again, production and transport costs will be a big factor given the huge amounts which would be needed for all fossil cars if they were to switch to it. And e fuels will do nothing to address the inefficiency of i.c. engines.
@@Brian-om2hh transport costs shouldn't be as bad as efuels can be made in your own country. We just need the government to legislate for various types of fuels. Will check out the Aspen one though. 👍
In the last 12 months I paid about GBP 130 on public chargers, all the rest of the power came from my off-grid solar meaning power cost me about GBP 2.00 per week. Based on a grid CO2e of about 0.2kg/KWh I emitted about 90kg CO2 as a result of my driving plus the embodied energy in my 9 year old EV. I'm happy with this :)
that's so true, would be also good to mention about enviromental cost associated to internal combustion servicing (oil, filter, belt etc.) ; even if EV also need a service at, really doesn't produce any waste other then actually going to the dealeship
Thanks for a great video. I am surprised however at the % of clean energy produced in US and Europe you mention in your video (around 50%). I think it would be great if you could mention your source as it would strengthen your argument. Again thanks a lot for a great video!
@@johnburns4017 In today's age with the level of misinformation we can unfortunately see it is quite common to back up what is exposed as fact with where these facts have been sourced so that no one can question the validity of these facts. You do not need to edit the video though you could put the link of the source in the description like other youtube video channel do.
Well...that opened my mind about EVs even more. I already knew gas was ineffectient and very pollutive, but this animation is so good. I'm saving for an EV and I'm hoping in 2025 I will exchange my car for and eletric one. Until there I will keep studying and working for making my dream come true. I absoluty love the tech that is coming with every new car that is coming out and the future that is waiting for us. And the dude in the end of the video was so good :D.
Thank you yet again for addressing the daily concerns here. Find and informative. Well done. I would love if you could address the embodied energy and recycling concerns. Renewables don’t start with putting up a solar panel and it doesn’t finish with taking it off. Material sourcing, manufacturing and recycling is easily looked over.
recycling is a non issue, Tesla claims to have a 1 million mile battery. we need to reduce emissions b 50% in 10 years, Tesla batteries wouldn't be recycled for like 80 years. average batteries are expected to last for 15-20 years
Robert was delighted to be asked to do the voiceover for this incredible animation by Mark Linthicum looking at the truth behind which pollutes more - combustion engine vehicles or electric vehicles? Spoiler alert: It's not EVs!
We are delighted to share this with you as it is another tool to expose the truth behind vehicle pollution, as well as asking what we can all do to help combat this.
This is an open source project which means anyone can post this but please contact Mark via us at communications@fullycharged.show to get permission first. Let's get this shared far and wide!
"Open Source" is the wrong terminology. Open source means something else.
This might be "Creative commons" assuming he has used a CC license.
Open source means he is giving away the original media files and allowing anyone not only to republish, but also to rewrite and represent parts of this video without his permission. Open sourcing this animation would allow, for instance, an oil company to take the animation and put a different voice over and message on it, without having to ask permission.
Can you explain what open source means here? It has different connotations in the software world i.e. grants users the rights to use, study, change, and distribute the software to anyone and for any purpose
Also I'm sure I'm allowed to post this video wherever I want as it comes under youtubes terms and conditions now? Can you clarify why I need Mark's permission first?
@@raidengodoflightenin you would be allowed to link to it, but you can't republish it without a license, such as an appropriate Creative Commons license.
If it had a true open source licence you would (as I pointed out above) be able to republish it *and* modify it without the author's permission.
@@KeithMilner lol, I was just typing my original post at the same time you posted. Would be good to see what Mark says about this.
Ok... Now make a video how lithium mining is destroying the enviroment etc.... And how much of mining you would need to change all vehicles ships planes to electric!! What to do with billions of used batteries after..... I could write some more dont have the time.... Not a fan of all electric also not a fan of the all oil... The solution is somewhere in the midle....or some new tech.... Have a nice day.....
As I work in the renewables industry, I see first hand what the effect of renewable technologies do to the market, grid and consumers - for the better. That is why I bought an EV 3 years ago (and I'll never go back to a IC). And I just pulled the trigger on a solar/battery array for my home that will charge my car(s). Creating a "nano"-grid for your home is surprisingly affordable now.
And Robert is 100% spot on - it starts with you. Work LOCAL. Change LOCAL and then once all of the local places implement their improvements it will spread.
Great job, Robert!
This is the way.
I have spoken.
Good job, Curtis. You're well on your way towards being energy self-sufficient. It feels good...and you can help your neighbors if/when their power goes out. Good luck with everything mate.
100% agree.
@@esk8jaimes Rob has spoken
My first ev arrives today, Hyundai Kona. Don't think I will ever own an ice car again, and this show has a lot to do with my conversion
Congratulations! Enjoy your new car!
Funny, I used to be a fuel tanker driver. Now I am a cook and drive an EV, have electrified everything including my lawn mower and snow blower. And tell everybody how great that is.
Tell you what, those cordless garden tools with rechargeable battery packs are a game-changer too!
@@esk8jaimes
Love my Milwaukee M18 electric chain saw!
@@ElyFrankes That's cool, yours is 18v right? The cordless tools I've been using are from a company called Swift, I think they're UK-based but they use 40v batteries instead!
Yeah, I definitely share this moment of "funny": Learned in the chemical industry 30 years ago, a Shell product lab associated to a vast refinery, being mocked at my activism against nuclear power by then.
Now, at least I've ordered my first EV (indeed the first German solar electric vehicle, the Sion), built my own off-grid PV on my landlord's roof and replaced many petrol-powered appliances / tools and even some electric wired ones by battery-powered ones.
It's fun beyond words! 😁
@@esk8jaimesMy chain saw, since a couple of days: Makita DUC353Z, using 2x 18V in series = 36V. Advantage: Compatible with my Makita screw/drill, angle grinder and planer.
Brilliant video. As an EV owner I am sick of the tired argument of " & where does electricity come from...." whilst completely disregarding where petrol & diesel comes from!
even when you know all of this, this is just so eye opening to summarize it such a visual way.
Definitly. None of this comes at a surprise, yet seeing it animated and explained in such a simple manner still makes it way easier to understand actually how polluting ICE cars actually are.
I live in Australia.. we have a country larger than the United States, only 26 Million People..
And FARMS, Larger than England, 1 million acres plus..
An Electric vehicle in Australia is about as useful as? "An Ashtray on a Motorbike"..
90% off Batteries, have TOXIC Chemicals in their make up, so you wont die from them, but your Grandkids will, when all the Dead, Tesla, Leaf, etc batteries, end up in Land Fill..
It is Fake economy, to have an electric car.. live in a Block of flats? have a power point to charge it? um nup.. unless you have dedicated charging in the Parking Garage..
I am a disability pensioner, I use my car about, once a month, if it was electric, it would have to be on a trickle charger..
Petrol, let it sleep, then when needed, jump in and start.
@@graemejohnson9025 This is not the right attitude for you to take. You're thinking ' it won't work for me so it'll never work.'. Think for the future and lobby your representatives in government to work towards evolving to the use of electric vehicles instead of internal combustion engines. Think about your grandkids, if not for the rest of the future generations that will otherwise be buried under the wasted energy expenditures and toxic emissions generated by the efforts required to fuel your gas powered vehicle. I vote for the cleaner (less polluting) option.
@@graemejohnson9025 Wow, it's like not only have you not watched the information video but not bothered to do any research yourself. Incredible!
No rose tinted glasses here and yes range & charging speed is still an issue but not as great as is often promoted. We are only in the first real decade of serious investment in electric vehicle technology and the real story of electric cars is going to be this next ten tears. Already they have halved in price and doubled in range with the first of 400-500 mile cars starting to appear, something claimed as impossible only a few years ago by combustion car lobbyists. Expensive now obviously but the knock on effect is cheaper and longer range cars on the way.
Electric Car Batteries are a serious investment and contain a significant amount of materials very much worth recovering which is why recycling them is now becoming a a rapidly growing industry, only slowed by the lack of batteries as they have long outlasted the predictions of doom sayers of a decade ago. As the video explained there is a life for batteries after their time in the car as energy storage and so it can be up to twenty years before they become available for recycling.
It doesn't matter if you live in a tree house if you have somewhere to park then you have somewhere to charge. Here in the UK we now have appearing street slow charging bollards and even converted street lamps. Yes it will take time for infrastructure to be put in place but the move from combustion engines is a two to three decade plan. Let's not forget the first Combustion cars were for the very rich and you had to go to a chemist for fuel.
If you only do short journeys you may only charge you EV a couple of times a week and there is no need to leave it on trickle charge they're not lead acid batteries although even those only ever needed a top up charge with storage trickle charging just a lazy practice. Charging technology now means you can automatically chose when to charge so as to avoid the peak cost times of the day.
Well I hope this has helped... I doubt it... but hey worth a go.
Keep well x
@@graemejohnson9025 I'm retired too so in my case, living in a more populated area in the US and doing far shorter trips to run errands to the store, an EV is much more efficient for my uses, however, you bring up an important point and that is the total amount of miles many of drive in a year. While my 2004 Pontiac GTO (Holden Monaro) and my 2016 Chevy Spark EV are both driven less than 4000 miles (6437km) the amount of pollution created by my ICE vehicle in operation is not too bad. The only problem is the more time the GTO sits, the more likely seals, brake rotors, belts, etc., decorate. BTW, I think you missed the part about the EV batteries are recyclable and in fact we'll be seeing more battery recycling operations happening in future. Also, there are many small shops the do EV conversions reusing older battery packs or creating their own battery packs using discarded laptop battery cells.
One way to get a EV charging option installed is to reserve a spot in a new development. It's much easier to convince a developer to include a charging option in the planning phase than after the fact. This is how I got 50% of parking in our condo with 16Amp 230V charging capability.
Easier adoption will be make cheaper EVs and better range for many applications possible.
A question, many apartments already install electric outlets in the parking lots for car heaters, do those have enough output to charge EVs? It would probably only allow slow class 1 charging, but that is still better than no charging at all.
@@AnalystPrime Typically in Finland these "heating" outlets are rated for a maximum of 8 Amps and are limited by timer to operate a maximum of 2 hours uninterrupted, so are relatively useless for EV charging. The charging outlets in my case have "heating" socket and "charging socket" separately. The only thing different from a normal installation is the heavier cabling and fuses in the electric center. The Socket for charging is also much more heavy duty "super schuko" that is rated to handle 16 amp continuous charging without melting. My Granny cable charger pulls 12 Amps at max setting so 2.7 Kw which is enough to put 150-200km in the tank during a 10 hour charge.
Separate from all this is of course that the "heating" outlets are un-metered and typically you pay some flat charge per year for using it based on expected average use so using one for charging is morally suspect.
That's really the best option for charging in condos. The morons in my city either insist on installing 1-2 DCFC stations that generate huge lineups, or the install like 5-10 11 kW chargers. People can charge overnight, 16 amps at 240v and you can charge pretty much any vehicle overnight. It's also MUCH cheaper to install 16 amp circuits, because they only need 12 gauge wire instead of 6 gauge wire, so you can build 4x as many charging spots for the same price. If people need a charge faster than 3.6 kW, they can go to a DCFC station elsewhere.
@@AnalystPrime I was able to get 4 miles per hour of charging at my Mom's wall outlet at her condo. If you are home 10-12 hours that is 40-48 miles per day. Several of the grocery stores I shop at have either level 2 or DCFC chargers. The level two give about 30-40 miles per hour and the DCFC will fill the car completely before you finish shopping. Unfortunately my work doesn't have charging, but the light poles in the parking lots could supply power to 2-4 cars at a slow rate and at a minimal cost to the company.
I looked at buying a condo in the city closer to work than my house recently and while they did not have an option to charge my car in the garage, it was about 6 miles from work so I would probably ride my electric bicycle at least on the nicer days and save miles on the car altogether.
This is a brilliant video. Some of the animation is just hilarious. Thanks Robert for voicing over this piece.
I agree, some of the little "mishaps" gave me quite a chuckle.
Love this video, I have independently looked at the peer reviewed research on these subjects myself and agree with the points made but there really should be a document attached to this vid with the citations for the papers and statistics mentioned. Would make it much more convincing for people already on the fence.
Again, loved the video and love the channel, keep up the excellent programming.
Thank You!
It's mostly made up. When he started talking about Australian oil refineries it was just outright silly. There are only 2 small refineries kept open by constant government hand outs. 95% of Australian oil is refined overseas.
@@stevebuckley7788may be that wasn't the case when the video was published. That actually makes sense, because if they hate them so much, it's likely they shut some of them down.
@@bishoyrafik8995 The last major refinery (Sydney-Kernel) closed about 10 years ago so yes it's almost entirely made up nonsense.
The main issues were unprofitable running costs and poor quality products not environmental concerns.
Hello, maybe you should have a look to the videos of "Le Réveilleur" about this and many other similar subjects. Sorry it's in french, but you can activate subs and he gives all the sources links in his comments.
Very nice. EYE opener for me. EV is the future..
Great video highlighting the supply chain of petrol/diesel, however I feel some of the figures quoted are a little meaningless without context.
Its all well and good to say driving an oil pump consumes 1MWh a month - which could power a tesla for 35k miles, but how many petrol/diesel miles does that 1MWh pump deliver in an average car? (not forgetting the energy use throughout the remainder of the supply chain). If that pump delivers sufficient petrol to drive 100k miles for 1 MWh, then it’s a bit of a pointless statistic to be highlighting.
I feel the video could really benefit from summarising the total electricity consumption for petrol/diesel to drive 1 mile in an average car, which would give a much simpler figure to compare and contrast against the average EV consumption for 1 mile.
Not trying to detract from the message of the video, just feel it would benefit from some further clarity.
Keep up the good work!
8 kwhs of electricity is used per gallon of gas or diesel refined when you count from well-pump station. At least that is the figure I found when searching from a couple year's ago.
Can't remember the source, maybe a presentation by ICI at my grammar school, or at university, but I saw some statistics around the mid-1970's, showing the (in)efficiencies of different fuel sources for generating electricity. From memory, coal is something like 1% efficient, oil is about 0.1% and nuclear is about 0.001% efficient, when the whole process of extracting, refining, transporting and burning, plus the building, running and decommissioning of power stations, and the transmission losses are taken into account. Some online searching will have to be done.
In cars, petrol engines are reckoned to be a maximum of 25% efficient, and Diesel engines are calculated to be a maximum of about 30% efficient, thermodynamically. (This agrees with the 70% loss mentioned in the video.) Reading about the Carnot Cycle is enlightening, because it explains the reasons why a piston engine cannot even be close tom100% efficient.
Then there are friction losses in the transmission, aerodynamics and tyre friction losses. In addition, there are losses whilst warming up and idling an engine, and varying degrees of efficiency in the engine itself as rpm, load, climate and air pressure change.
These all add up to an average overall efficiency of closer to 15% for petrol and 18% for Diesel fuelled cars, in terms of the available energy from burning the fuel.
For a well-designed EV, 'fuel' efficiency, taking into account all transmission and other friction losses, plus power losses between wind farm/solar PV farm, charging, discharging and electrical resistance losses, is about 70%. This was explained quite well in one of Robert's videos within the past year.
Manufacture, transportation, running and decommissioning the generating equipment will be markedly less inefficient than doing the same for fossil and nuclear fuel power plants. I've made solar cells, and have some idea about the large amount of energy which goes into making them. But once made, they will work fine for at least 25 -30 years - close to the working lifetime of some nuclear plants - without requiring any power supply, other than sunlight. The Silicon can then be recycled at no greater cost than producing the material for the arrays in the first place.
As far as I can see, the only real potential source of pollution from wind turbines is the fibreglass which is used in making the blades. Perhaps carbon fibre could be a better substitute for it, but that's outside of my experience.
@@RWBHere very well thought out reply.
Wind turbines are now being recycled at a plant in Pittsburgh. They are able to reuse some of the materials and for the rest it's being added to cement. I imagine like battery recycling for evs this will also scale up and gain efficiency over time. 🤔
Well said, Simon. It would be helpful for all of these totals (of inefficiencies from burning fossil fuels) to be calculated and compared to the efficiency of using Electricity in EV cars. We have a lot of numbers, but no direct comparison(s) between the TWO car options for consumers. Maybe a 2nd video is needed or at least a revision.
You missed the point of including pumpjack electric usage, or you stopped watching the video and missed all the other electric and energy inputs needed to create fossil fuels. Of course a pumpjack is going to produce more energy than it consumes. That's the whole purpose of the endeavor to drill oil out of the ground. Then add-in transportation, refining, and engine loss, and all the other added expenses on the vehicle such as exhaust, (which an EV does not need), and the life-cycle of ICE vehicles is always going to be far more polluting and energy intensive than an EV. The cost savings themselves (1/2 the cost per mile in some cases, like Semi freight) point to higher efficiency. This animation simply drives the point home!
Thank you for revealing the "big picture" - it's quite an eye - opener!
Yes, a great big picture view. The one detail not covered is that "gas pumps" are also electric. And every drop of fuel pumped into every customer tank requires electricity.
I live in Australia.. we have a country larger than the United States, only 26 Million People..
And FARMS, Larger than England, 1 million acres plus..
An Electric vehicle in Australia is about as useful as? "An Ashtray on a Motorbike"..
90% off Batteries, have TOXIC Chemicals in their make up, so you wont die from them, but your Grandkids will, when all the Dead, Tesla, Leaf, etc batteries, end up in Land Fill..
It is Fake economy, to have an electric car.. live in a Block of flats? have a power point to charge it? um nup.. unless you have dedicated charging in the Parking Garage..
I am a disability pensioner, I use my car about, once a month, if it was electric, it would have to be on a trickle charger..
Petrol, let it sleep, then when needed, jump in and start.
Battery powered cars are middle class westerners wet dreams.
It's all BS.
Electric grids won't cope with demand
Battery technology is reaching its limits with lithium and cobalt (cobalt mining never mentioned)
There are no other elements in the earth to develop for such batteries.
Oil,gas and coal will still be extracted for power stations providing AC electricity for the EV batteries to power DC motors- the technology of the 19th century.
It's all BS!
@@MrMusic1950 British cities had zero emission electric vehicles from 1890-1966.
They were trams, trolley busses, trains and underground systems.
Perhaps,in urban areas,the ridiculous and inefficient desperation for "private" transport, needs to be looked at again.
@@MrMusic1950 And you say this because?
Well done on this breakdown! I would appreciate a series of animated videos explaining all the subtopics this explanation summarizes.
I live in Australia.. we have a country larger than the United States, only 26 Million People..
And FARMS, Larger than England, 1 million acres plus..
An Electric vehicle in Australia is about as useful as? "An Ashtray on a Motorbike"..
90% off Batteries, have TOXIC Chemicals in their make up, so you wont die from them, but your Grandkids will, when all the Dead, Tesla, Leaf, etc batteries, end up in Land Fill..
It is Fake economy, to have an electric car.. live in a Block of flats? have a power point to charge it? um nup.. unless you have dedicated charging in the Parking Garage..
I am a disability pensioner, I use my car about, once a month, if it was electric, it would have to be on a trickle charger..
Petrol, let it sleep, then when needed, jump in and start.
I like it but it starts off with lots of figures but doesn't tell us a total of the whole process. It's half way there, maybe needs a part 2.
was also waiting for the figure comparison at the end... good non the less.
True...
It should also mention where the coal and gas come from for the power station and what happens with radioactive waste from nuclear power. Otherwise it is not a properly balanced argument.
It's obviously biased towards EVs. I'm an EV advocate, but I don't think this video is going to change many minds. Maybe (hopefully) I'm wrong.
I will add, I had never considered the amount of electricity required to pump oil. That was eye opening. Numbers like that would sway people more IMO than snarky cartoons.
@@daxvolfan Totally agree. I'd just like the facts, don't need the cartoon.
If only this were bunkum, sadly it couldn't be more factual. Why is it that, as humans, it's even a debate?!!? Who actually wants to breath and use dirty fuels?!? We'd have to be insane!!! Funnily enough, we've got lithium places next to our refineries, the smell from our refinery can be intense, but the same can't be said for the lithium! Such a brilliant visual illustration!!! Very well done!! Nice to see you getting blunt Robert!!!
The father and son TH-camrs from Now You Know posted this on their channel. It's brilliant.
I saw it on BestInTESLA not NowYouKnow
ah, didn't know they were father and son.
Brilliant, this will be very useful to all of us who deal with these questions day after day :)
Not having to import oil from a Country like Saudi Arabia is a good enough reason for me to make my next vehicle purchase an EV
So true!!!!
And the other paradises of Iran, Iraq, Venezuela and Russia.
You do realize that America makes most of its own oil especially when it comes down to using it for cars right?
@You Tube
Imports are done for both economical, environmental, and socioeconomical reasons.
I don't believe you even understand the basics of electricity making such a stupid statement saying that every home should generate it's own electricity.
I don't speak to idealists I speak to realists.
@You Tube
Then how much will that cost? Do we have enough batteries to make that happen? What are the maintenance costs? What are the costs of that type of installation to begin with? How many people can afford that installation?
Provide me with at least these basic numbers then we can talk.
Excellent and illuminating. Thanks to all involved
Problem with your analysis is you do not state that these exact same processes used for drilling, pumping, refining and transporting is used for Electricity powered from "dirty sources" as well. @10:20 Coal doesn't just magically appear at the power plant!
In the UK coal makes up around 2% of our power generation. and is being phased out. Meanwhile renewables make up around 40% and is growing. By 2030, every home in the UK is set to be powered by wind.
Once we are all 100% clean energy, all manufacturing and transportation will be clean.
@@daydreamer8373
Coal will be gone in a few years time. A contract has been signed between the UK and Morocco to import 3.6GW of electricity per day. They are building solar farms in their western desert. 3.6GW is about the same output of DRAX which is one of the largest power stations in Europe.
The cables will run through Spain, Portugal, France and the sea. Those countries will also import energy from Morocco. Poor Morocco has found an industry.
@@johnburns4017the last coal power station in the UK is closing in September 2024.
@johnburns4017 2024 bingo!
Whilst I get the point that you are making and the reason for doing so, what I’d really like to know is the energy cost of extracting, refining and transporting the 55 litres of fuel that I pump into my gas tank. (Rather than the energy costs of all the oil in the world, not all of which is used to power cars.)
If you can find out how many litres of oil it takes to make 55 litres of your chosen fuel then I think the test of the info is in there.
Isn’t the fact that you waste 70% of the fuel you burn as useless heat in a vehicle enough to convince you how wasteful ICE engines are? You’re looking at this all wrong. It’s not about you!
The answer will always be: ‘significantly more than just using electricity to power an EV’.
@@jeffbransky6499 It also ignored the energy recovered by vehicles using regenerative braking.
Did you watch the video?
I think I am going to do a polish voice over for all the coal and oil loving poles
Pray tell what you THINK that sounds like? Pretty pretentious and off base right out of the gate...DUDE.
@@billcichoke2534 I'm not sure what you mean. I have talked to hundreds and hundreds of polish people and they are not educated on the subject due to a lack of videos like these. Not just polish people most people from most countries can relate. I just said polish because I can speak polish I would of said russian for example but I can't speak Russian
@@gerardjachymiak5822 What you assume is ignorance, might be an unwillingness to give up prosperity for someone else's version of progress. As you know, they've had their fill of that over the last however many decades...
@@billcichoke2534 sorry it might just be my dyslexic ass but I don't understand what you are saying try to speak simpler please
Inspired in part by youtube channels like yours I recently switched from a petrol Peugeot 208 to an electric Peugeot e-208. I am amazed at how incredibly vast the difference is between the two, even though they’re basically identical cars with the only difference in the power train. I will never go back because the electric Peugeot is so much more fun to drive, more powerful and less stressful. I am convinced that once you get someone to try an ev they’ll most likely be converts within minutes. Unless they’re only interested in how much engine noise a car makes because there is none... 😂
Welcome aboard. I made a similar move years ago into a Chevy Volt Hybrid then replacing another vehicle with a LEAF. There is no going back once you try driving electric. This year I am installing solar on the house and wiring in a new 50a outlet in the garage near the doors while I wait for the Cybertruck. Never ever going back.
It's always baffled me how someone can attach sentiment or emotion to a noise...... but then I'm one of these people who likes no noise. The less the better....
If there were a problem with Lithium mining they would talk about it. The best argument u will ever need. Incredible. That sounds like "Source: Trust me bro" thing...
Lithium mining is like table salt mining, you do not hear about it.
It would have been good to throw in oil sands oil. The mine I used to work In used over 400,000 liters of diesel every day. Yes every day, not every month. That was an average size mine, there were bigger mines than that.
And as far as I'm aware there was at least seven mines in operation.
CNRL Horizon
CNRL Albian
Suncore Fort Hills
Suncore Millenium and Northsteep
Imperial Oil Kearl
Syncrude Mildred Lake
TEC Resources Frontier
The haul trucks we used were CAT 797Fs which have a fuel capacity of 7500 litres.
This wouldn't even last 2 12 hour shifts.
The mine I worked at had roughly 65 of these trucks, somewhere 797Bs which are even less fuel efficient. Even if 50 of the trucks were running at any one time that would be 375,000 of fuel every day just for the 797 haul trucks. But they also had CAT 793 trucks, which are smaller and burn 400 litres of diesel every hour. Some other mines use diesel electric haul trucks which are apparently a little more fuel efficient, but ours didn't.
That was only the haul trucks. If you count all the support vehicles and hundreds of pickup trucks we had, then the fuel consumption figure gets even higher.
And that's only the company vehicles. I didn't even mention the army of contractors that worked there, some of them with their own haul trucks.
That is just diesel every day. They also used vast amounts of natural gas and electricity everyday. Natural gas to boil the water to make the bitumen slurry, so it can be pumped down the pipelines to the next stage of processing, and generate the electricity which was done on site, yes they had their own power plant. Add to that all the chemicals that have to be added to the slurry in the frothing process to finally create the synthetic crude oil.
And that is just 1 mine which was actual open cast mining.
Most oil sands operations are not mining but rather steam injection to get bitumen is that further underground. Steam injection uses huge amounts of natural gas to generate the steam to melt the bitumen to get it to flow to the surface.
This happens every hour of everyday of the year. It only ever stops for planned maintenance shutdown (refurb and repair)work that happens maybe once a year.
And to think that the vast majority of the oil produced, 60% to 70%, will be used for transportation.
I would love to see an updated video including this type of unconventional oil extraction.
Thats all fake this video is lieing.
@@doomguard731 so are you saying I didn't work in a mine because somehow this video insults your ideology that you have pandered to for years?
I think you only need to look at the impact COVID has had on drastically reducing vehicle emissions by virtue of lockdowns - the pollution indices have never been better. I have been able to see the horizon day after day whereas it was a very rare occurrence before.
Absolutely! Look how fast the world started healing itself from this pollution when we stopped pumping the carbon into the air. I mean it started changing almost immediately:) this shows that if we changed now and started using electric or fuel cell cars it’s not too late to fix the planet. We can still reverse this mess we created. But everyone has to be on the same page and our government especially here in Texas will not change so easily.
It was the coldest winter in a long time
Unless you live in a megacity, in most parts of the world clear horizons depend on humidity, not on vehicle emissions.
@@CandycaneBeyond Any idea why?
@@BatAtBat Ignore the science, stick with your reasons, you know better.
We need this referenced. Please post a list so we can confirm the claims made.
Go outside and see it for yourself mate : ) Also try visiting a harbour where oil tankers dock and maybe visit any refinery nearby. Its not pretty :)
There are plenty of sources online.
Yes. The calculation of 43,500 pumps using up 4,300 GW hour/month of electricity comes out, in electricity costs, close to $300,000,000/month which makes it believable that the equivalent amount of electricity would power 15,164,100 EV's which roughly comes out to $20/month per EV. It would be good to see how many barrels of oil are pumped out for this cost as oil enriches the society when it is processed overall. Providing objective numbers and where they come from as evidence should be part of every such argument.
@@TinMan111112 I'm not worried about mathematics. Where did the figure 43500 come from? Where did the power consumption of each well come from? I cannot refer people to this video in good confidence as the sources are not listed. The information is probably correct but is worthless without the referenced sources.
I'm afraid some is just plain wrong. The shipping industry is regulated and the introduction of IMO 2020 Specs or the use of scrubbers was definitely a major step in the right direction.
Personally, I am all for the electrification of the transportation industry but I think Rob needs to be a little less preachy. Not all of us can afford to change our cars, when my car needs to be changed it will be for an EV but not trading in a perfectly usable car, at considerable cost, until we've had value from our present car.
@@simonmackenzie4227 Preachiness is always a bad thing when trying to get people to take you seriously. However, presenting balanced views seems to be regarded as heresy in these days of comfirmation bias. This could be reworked to give a bit more balance, but then it would be more boring...
Missing Information in Animation: Regenerative braking - imagine internal combustion engines start producing gas when you hit the break! On traffic, if I don't move my car my gas gets constantly used which is not the case in EV. Great animation though!
Technically not true.
Whilst I applaud the efforts to move to EV, current ICE cars have regen braking to recoup and use on ancillaries, coasting, and even powerboosts and step of acceleration.
Almost all new ICE cares also have stop start, so when sat in traffic, the engine is off.
Again, want to push for EVs but lets not be as bad as the ICE supporters by going as low to misrepresent.
@@leebutler9470 I absolutely hate stop start and I can tell you that people just turn that setting off. They never use it. The rest of what you said is correct tho.
@@leebutler9470 I heard one time in my life a start stop car in Europe. Nobody use it here (a lot better in Japan).
@@leebutler9470 Yes, don't want to misrepresent ICE. But I'm 39 years old from India and hearing this stop-Start technology for the first time - it's not at all common here. Regen breaking in ICE? Does it exist? OMG we are far behind - might be very top-end car selling here which might have this kind of tech - but 99.9% of the Indians are not at all using this and are polluting the environment for 100% sure.
@@leebutler9470 I wasn't aware that any production cars had implemented KERS. Can you give an example?
EDIT: The Volvo 2020 XC90 has it, but I can't find any others. It certainly doesn't seem widespread.
Great video, but should also have mentioned a little bit of minimal loses of energy with the electric model too - transmission losses, and 10% loss with battery storage, just for the sake of completion and giving the full picture. The aspect ratio is also a bit weird and distracting. Otherwise, great work!
It's all very compelling. But the EV industry isn't so squeeky clean when all energy and life of service is considered. EVs don't just pop into existence nor does the infrastructure required to keep every single EV charged.
I like the concept, but I think people will be distracted by the people getting run over, blood and the lorry at the end.
It was obviously a bit exagerated, the oil pumping production and consumption are not 100% used to fuel cars, there is a big industry behind.... But in the end of course it is clear that the production of electric energy should go almost directly to charge cars instead of wasting it on oil stuff..
70% is gasoline and Diesel though, the rest is, or used for Petroleum coke, still gas, asphalt, naphtha, lubricants, waxes, bunker fuel, plastic products, synthetic rubber, fuels for heating & cooking, additives for gasoline, Kerosene & Kerosene-type jet fuel, heating oil.
60% of all oil pumped is used for transportation. 70% in the United States.
Just multiply the figures by 0.7 to get the actual figures for the United States.
I have been waiting for the final cut of this video to come out. Thanks for making this.
I have watched this soo many times. Love it
A fossil fuel engine can't run at high efficiency until warmed up. Most journeys are too short. In cold climates the vehicle may not even reach optimum efficiency very often.
I took out the data for this film, it would be a good idea to have this in table form.
Oil is found 1900 meters
One jack pump takes 9.96 MWh per month
An EV can drive 34,860 miles, enough for 3 years
435,000 jack pumps in US uses 4,300 GWh per month
4,300 GWh can power over 15 million EVs each month
Deep sea pump uses diesel generator 20 to 30 tons of diesel per day
electrical eq is 300 MWh per day
1,470 offshore rigs uses 1.3 TWh per month
this would power 19.5 million EVs per month
337,000 miles of pipeline in world for transport 542,914 km for 199 million bbl per day we consume
Pump stations use energy
Ships contribute 1 billion tons of CO2 per year, oil shipping is 10%
Refinery heats oil to 427°C / 800°F for 100 million bbl per day
Refinery is largest pollution source where they are
After refining, it’s transported and an ICEV is 30% efficient at best.
US power sources 47% clean / 53% dirty Europe 56% /44% dirty
Australia produces 50% of lithium
OZ has 1% of oil use in world, refine only 1/4 of their oil, and it’s worst pollution source in OZ
TH-cam played a commercial for an oil company at the beginning of this 🤣
But corupt big green payed for this FAKE propgander. SAD.
@@doomguard731 Exactly what is fake about this? Your comment's lack of substance is what is sad here. Not to mention the irony of using corruption as an argument against a green change. IF there's corruption involved in the change towards a more sustainable future, it will never surpass the level of corruption that has taken place in the oil and ICE-industries through history, with Dieselgate being the last perfect example.
@@NoMoYOUsernames it’s all a big scam. It’s all about raising taxes, severely limiting our rights, and freedoms.
@@DJTFan2024 Where's the logic in that? Why would governments need to blame the environment for raising taxes, limiting rights, etc.? They could easily do that without an excuse, or with a less elaborate excuse if they thought they needed one.
Besides, how do you explain the 99% consensus among climate scientists?
If you believe 99% of climate scientists could be involved in a scam, I guess you also believe in Santa Claus?
Stop and think about where the real money in the world is and who has anything to gain from what.
The real money in the world is in petroleum products.
If anyone wants you to believe a lie it's the people who stand to benefit from a continued production of petroleum products.
@@NoMoYOUsernames enjoying your life in la-la land? It is a scam. Man made climate change is another way to say communism. 99% of so called scientists are liars. The liberal governments paid those so called scientists to say those things, so more people can fall for the scam.
Some great bits of humour in an excellent and well-needed animation. Thank you for sharing.
Can't tell you how many times I've referred uneducated trolls on social media to this video. It's so informative and explains things so well.
It should also be pointed out that power stations have to be fuelled by something whether it is coal, gas, oil or nuclear. These fuels have to be mined one way or another and then transported either by pipeline or tanker so power generation for EV use is not as clean as it is portrayed here. However, in overall terms, switching to EV's is still a no brainer especially with home power generation
Also clean air in towns where we breath.
Good video! I was expecting to hear about cobalt too and the overall efficiencies from well to wheel, but it's still a very good educational video 😊 Good job Mark and Fully Charged!
I agree. Still an informative and hopefully convincing video.The cobalt mining problem is often used to critisize EVs, so leaving that question out may leave some ammunition for the 'dark side'.
@@henriklund6179 agreed. I understand (from data that may be a little old) that 50% of cobalt is used in batteries. 5% is used as catalyst, mostly to desulphurise oil, so it's a small amount, but not nothing. Also, cobalt-free batteries will come. Having said that, nothing will ever be totally clean...
Great work.The clip forgot to mention the power required to run a Petrol/Gas station (which is also considerable)...
I think the biggest problem with fuel stations are the underground fuel tanks which must be constantly monitored for leaks and removed . Very costly to clean up the site for other uses, more than the land is worth.
The fuel station takes little power. The 'C' store attached to it sucks a lot of power. Replacing pumps with charging stations won't change the 'C' store.
@@JohnRoss1 Depending on the type of future use, some old fuel stations just get their empty tanks filled with concrete.
The naughty truck got it's come uppance at the end!
@Ross Bourne I often think that everytime a bird shits on my car window.
♥ Love this. But sadly it only mentions that a ICE engine efficiency losses 70% energy but then never mentions its only 15% for an electric car. This needs to be hyped more. Ultimately this is what saves lots of energy, less pollution and money in the end. And this is why EVs will succeed.
Just conducted a survey on the barriers to electric vehicles. The biggest barrier is cost, then where people live.
as I said above, buy a used one...
It really is so obvious what way our civilization has to go. The future is electric
Not for people on low incomes it isn't .
Excellente video, congratulations!
Yeah, really good! Also what about the benefits of noise pollution... I live near a very noisy, and busy Motorway (M25) and it drives me potty?
Will it really make That much difference? Once up to speed I’m not convinced EVs are quieter outside. Maybe during traffic jams it’ll be quieter though.
@@SquareoftheyearFM
I've found that, I don't think EVs are any quieter at motorway speeds.
The main noise is tyre noise, you don't hear engines next to a motorway.
Road conditions are a factor in car noise. Have you ever noticed how quiet cars are on new pavement? Have you also noticed how freaking loud pickup trucks are? Some young people also modify their cars to be louder. Some people, mostly men, like their vehicles louder than everyone else on the road. I walk every day around town and loud cars, mostly pickup trucks, pass me all the time. I can't wait for EVs to dominate the road.
@@matchrocket1702 pickup trucks aren’t really a thing in the UK same as in the states. Also people tend not to modify cars here so much as insurance can be expensive for modified vehicles, especially for younger people.
@@SquareoftheyearFM People in the States have this thing about their cars. To many they are an extension of their egos. The bigger the noise, the bigger the ego, the bigger the...
Excellent, thanks. It used to be called a "Well to wheel" analysis, possibly still is, but so many people do not have the full knowledge of all the factors in the chain from well to wheel.
For balance, there are transmission losses for electricity and charging losses, and of course efficiency losses in the EV car. The big factor is how much renewables we now produce, which really nail the argument for EVs, of course the localised pollution level is a big factor as well.
its kind of fails to mention that 1,000,000,000 tons of co2 cargo shipping includes EVs and while they're just 1% of fleet now, they'll be 10% by 2030
Well done, Mark Linthicum and Robert! This explained so much of the inefficiencies of ICE cars as opposed to ELECTRIC. I'm going to show my stubborn family this video and it might change some minds. I've owned a Fiat 2013 500e for years and have saved THOUSANDS of dollars...in fact the savings have paid for the cost of the car - bought used for $8,500 back in 2015. If I was still driving an ICE car, I would've thrown an additional $10,000 up into the atmosphere...at least according to my most recent calculations. Keep up the great work, Robert.
Is there a version with metric values available?
I've been an advocate for electric cars for years but seeing this still is an eye opener. We need as many people to see this as possible.
Nope
Fantastic!! Can’t wait to get my hands on my first electric car. Hopefully soon. Great video with hilarious animation.
What ev are you going for?
Dream is Tesla model Y. 😉
my father didnt allow a renter to install charger for electric scooter because he was afraid of battery explosion , but when i give all the data now we also own an ev
not keen on the taxing part, that will only make it hard for people to afford a new electric car and those taxes will be used on electric vehicles anyway, people will want a charging station at every parking lot, including apartment parking when electric cars overtake diesel anyway
Funny, saw this on BestInTesla around 2 weeks ago. You were credited for voice-over. I 'shared' it...it's brilliant.
Heck, I'll share it again.
Very educational, excellent video very well put together.
Has changed my mind
Fact check it first 😏
8:58 I believe the biggest risk to human health in Australia is spiders.
I thought it was Drop Bears?
More people end up in hospital here with bee stings. Read that just today
@@WonkoTheSaneUK
That's only tourists, they don't attack Aussies.
Nope, beer.
Incorrect. The biggest current risk/threat to human health in Australia is the Australian Government.........
Great video! Well done to everyone involved!
This is so cool! It addresses such a dark and nasty subject in a way that is easy to follow and understand, and is fun to watch too. And obviously it is spot on. Love this video.😍😍👌👌👍👍
Awesome video Mark! Brilliant! Perfect choice for voice over. Definitely passing this along. Thank you for educating us.
Great video, didn't realize how much of what goes on with fossil fuel, my next car will definitely be electric
Electrofuels, as well as biofuels plus that interesting CO2 negative one Biomethane. Check them out!
Best video I've seen this year. Honest, simple to understand and exactly what needs to be said.
Great video, always wondered what happens to the battery after they no longer work in cars. What about this for an idea why can't we lease the battery when we buy a car that would make the cars a lot cheaper to buy and when the battery dead just replace and carry on with the lease. An old car with dead battery could have a new life with a replacement lease battery.
Superb video on the full reality of energy and pollution impact of oil. Thanks for making this.
Excellent video. Sadly I doubt even this would convince my grumbling Step Dad. Some people's minds are set in concrete unfortunately.
That's unfortunate to hear. There will always be people who are adamant about their decision. However, the vast majority of people are more than willing to keep an open mind. I think our efforts are best focused on the latter cohort!
@@catkiller395 agreed!
Or the two guys I met on here some time ago. One was utterly solid in his belief that electric cars would need (quote) " the battery and electric engine replacing every 3 years".. Another steadfastly refused to believe my Kia came with an 8 year battery warranty. "Impossible" he said.... "electric car batteries only last 4 years". Neither had owned or driven an EV.... You make your own mind up.. I did! The sheer amount of misinformation, and sometimes total b****cks is breathtaking at times..... I do actually wonder if these people are plants, working for the big oil giants?
Your Step Dad sounds quite like the guy in one of Les Dawson's jokes. This guy was extremely highly skilled, yet could not find work anywhere. When asked what was his trade/skill, Les replied " he was a Zeppelin builder".. Mention to your step dad that we didn't leave the Stone Age behind because we ran out of stones......
Thank you! Provides a succinct (and entertaining) overview on the insanity of burning fossil fuels when the alternatives are right in front of us.
Volumetric density of diesel is 0.85kg/l so when your animation says cubic metres (which isn't m3 btw) it's not correct to state the same figure in metric tonnes.
The phrase "splitting hairs" comes to mind?
@@rogerstarkey5390 I think more "accuracy". Important here as otherwise the petrol heads and oil barons will point out these numeric inaccuracies to trash the whole video.
That was awesome guys! Well done. I just watched it when my 5 year old son and he loved it, he asked if we can watch it again tomorrow night. High praise! He particularly liked the various smashing and bashing and people getting run over 😂
Brilliant. Simple enough even for politicians and journalists. What is the proposal to get it to them all or do we each have to do our own MP and newspaper? Do we need to ask?
the video has a good basic idea. but I think one could have been more specific on the facts. I want to know exactly how electric cars and ICE compare 1 to 1 in terms of consumption. Also it is not very impartial. This is especially a problem if you try to convincing the people that hating electric cars.
For example: why dont you compare the co2 or energy that a car uses in a lifespan of a ICE car vs a electric car from production to end of life.
But still i like the video. I would love to see a part 2
Nicos -- I had the same thought. This is a wonderfully informative and entertaining video, but it lacks mathematical rigor. It would be great to pair it with a video that really attempts to calculate the wells-to-wheels carbon footprint of two cars -- one EV and one conventional -- over some arbitrary distance -- say, 1000 miles. It should also include the amortized impact of producing and disposing those vehicles. Of course, that all gets a bit murky, due to the large number of assumptions one would have to make (and clearly state). It would be a bit difficult to make such a video entertaining, but maybe this fellow is up to the task. In the summary, I'd envision a chart with two stacked bars -- each bar showing all of the various components of one car's carbon footprint.
The video is also vulnerable to criticism of some of it's facts. It gives the impression that all lithium batteries are repurposed, then recycled. That's a laudable goal, and technically (if not economically) feasible today. However, it is FAR from the current reality -- about 5% recycled. When you provide one opening for attack, the end result may be to give disbelievers an excuse to dismiss your whole argument.
On the whole, I think that this is a great job, if carefully advertised for what it is.
You can find all this information in much more detail online, if you're really interested. This video targets a different audience.
@tie pup I'm not really disagreeing with the main point here -- EVs are a better solution. I'm just saying that this analysis, while entertaining, is not complete enough. It should provide some links to those "numerous studies over the years" that you cite (sort of). Unfortunately, those tend to be dry. A combination of mathematical rigor (with clearly stated assumptions) and this creator's entertaining presentation style ... that would be great.
Too many figures would have made it unwatchable for many. It got the message across in a light hearted way. Anyone who seriously wanted more information regarding statistics and figures, would doubtless find them.
It was a great video with plenty of good data, and I agree with all of it. However, it seems almost slightly aggressive towards the ICE option, which will put off quite a few people on paying attention to the factual content. I would think toning down the fraction of aggression would tie the video together nicely and would actually result in more people being convinced. That is the goal after all, as mentioned at the beginning. I don't believe I am baised in saying this, as I agree with everything said in the video.
@A N Other his point being it'll put naysayers on the defensive without them opening their ears and will have the opposite effect to educating
Great video. I found the stats really interesting regarding the energy used to pump oil out the ground and how it was compared to number of EVs that could be run for a month. It would have been great if that could have been applied to oil refineries, shipping of oil and wasted energy from burning petrol and diesel. And then providing a cumulative total.
Also anyone who starts to say 'Well what about manufacturing solar panels transmission lines EV batteries etc' Tell them how do you think they build pipelines, oil derricks, wells, ships and also internal combustion engine vehicles etc? Compare what needs comparing. Love my EV
The only issue I have with this is that not all of that oil is being used for powering cars. Apparently, in the US it is 68% transportation and 26% industrial, with the left overs being split between residential, commercial and electric power. I'm guessing plastics will remain a thing, if only for medical purposes.
Generally speaking, a good video and I will be buying my first electric car either this or next year.
@@nmtb1972 there are much more issues, starting with the fact that the source is biased - if this would come from something like "engineering explained", we could assume it's neutral, but in a channel like you can suspect it's biased, and it is - strange figures and no references to anything.
@@mylesrussell allright, let's compare. Pipelines - it's metal. Oil derricks - it's metal. Wells - it's metal. Ships - it's metal. Engines - mostly metal, could be almost fully metal [if not for weight and cost saving on plastic parts]. They all can be stored for long time, nothing happens to them if they are stored for decades in right conditions, and once they are done - they can be simply recycled in a cost effective way - you probably have noticed scrap metal merchants, and they are buying the scrap metal, not you paying them to take your scrap. Meanwhile - lithium ion batteries - AFAIK they cannot be recycled in a cost effective way, only processed to be buried as dangerous waste - in case I'm wrong, you can give a source that says the opposite. And, unlike engines, they have built in clock that starts to tick once they are made - while engines are being worn by milage, cold driving and starting, batteries are being worn by charge cycles and age - meaning an engine could last for you 30 years and more if you don't drive much, but no battery will withstand that. Solar panels - once they are done, they are toxic waste, with probably the same story as batteries. Wind turbines - once they are done, they are BIG waste, especially the blades.
Btw - isn't it strange that without any taxes, "inefficient" internal combustion engines and supporting infrastructure would result in cheaper costs per mile than "green" EV's, especially if they are powered by "renewable" energy? The future is very bleak, and the first signs are already apparent - like the illustrative trip between Stockholm and Nice done by some swedish car magazine, where nine charges of Jaguar I-Pace was three times as expensive than three tanks of diesel fuel for Volvo XC60, despite hat fuel having hefty duty on it. Or the very fact that in Germany fuel costs for EV are slightly lower than for diesel - if you will add to these electricy costs duty and additional price increase due to push for renewables, then you will get higher costs than currently for V8 petrol engine - nice, isn't it?
@@mshathlonxp That plus the electrical grid can't handle EV's. California cries for EV owners to not charge therir cars during "peak" periods and the ban on selling internal combustion engine powered cars hasn't taken effect yet.
Brilliant video
Nice video! But it lacks the numbers on efficiency of electric cars which are around 95%.
Not asking, sharing everywhere. 😂
It makes no sense to make this video then limit it's distribution. If you have a message, then simply get it out there.
Open source is basically 'do whatever you want with it', asking for permission is not open source. It is more like good will or closer to Creative Commons.
Thanks Robert, I've sent you an email about sharing it. I am building two new homes to sell on and I will include EV charging in the build. Dedicated chargers are a little expensive here but I plan to put in the wiring for a home charger and install a caravan plug so the buyers / tenants have some options.
Love this! Thank you Robert
You have missed things here, the oil pumped from the ground is used in oils, greases, aeroplanes, ships and most importantly, plastics to produce all the plastic in cars and many other goods.
It never missed a point at all. It was comparing how dirty petrol burning in vehicles is to EVs. Look again.
Should be a prime time public health message, excellent work!
the combustion engine should have never been adopted,electric cars existed in the beggining but were not adopted
To be fair, at the time electric vehicles were not the best choice for most people.
Yes it's ironic that the thing that caused the widespread adoption of petrol cars was an electric motor. The starter motor. As most women at the time were loath to start a car that could break their arm.
@@Mountain-Man-3000 I totally agree with you, and its even the case today for sooo many applications
Electric engines and batteries back then were so weak it makes perfect sense they were replaced. Unfortunately it took decades to find tech that could replace them as well as the other options.
@@AnalystPrime uhm batteries always evolved even after the first EVs in 1990 it was the lithium battery birth
4:25 okay, that was legitimately funny xD
Simple, easy to understand, BRILLIANT.
Very nice video, I haven't read or seen the differences between the two technologies explained better.
An excellent start and is just what I have been trying to put together myself in my own mind eyes, but it does need to be tweak to suit the audience it’s targeting. Kids would be the best path way to the parents, so that if shown in school and shared in school with the kids, they take it home and ask mum and dad, which one of these do we use electric or fossil?
To the adults a different approach would be needed maybe adverting on TV with some like Octopus or any other green energy supplier. It’s called telling truth something that has been needed for a very long time, and is well over due. Well done and keep up the good work!
So please let me share!!
Would be interesting to see a comparison about synthetic fuels and their production.
I don't think the electric car fans would like that...
@@papasmith7648 Electric car fan here. I think e-fuels and hydrogen are a valid option for a vast number of applications, I don't think that ground-based motor vehicles are one of them. At least not for 90-95% of all vehicles.
@@jadziadax8658 because you are an electric car fan.
You can buy Aspen synthetic petrol now. It's used by tree surgeons and guys who use petrol garden machinery. It has no smell and doesn't go "off" like unleaded does. Sitting in a van with the smell of petrol fumes can make some people violently sick. You can get fuel stabiliser to prevent unleaded going off though..... The main issue with producing synthetic fuels will be the cost. The Aspen I mentioned is double the price of unleaded...... There is some fancy synthetic petrol being developed which looks promising. But again, production and transport costs will be a big factor given the huge amounts which would be needed for all fossil cars if they were to switch to it. And e fuels will do nothing to address the inefficiency of i.c. engines.
@@Brian-om2hh transport costs shouldn't be as bad as efuels can be made in your own country. We just need the government to legislate for various types of fuels. Will check out the Aspen one though. 👍
I remember how remarkably clean the air was during the first lockdown. It could be like that every day.
What? A lockdown, or clean air?
Are we going to just overlook the hit and run by the Tesla?! 🤣😅 Great video! 💯👍🏼🔥
I did know all this, but seeing it all put together is shocking. A real eye opener.
Agreed....
In the last 12 months I paid about GBP 130 on public chargers, all the rest of the power came from my off-grid solar meaning power cost me about GBP 2.00 per week. Based on a grid CO2e of about 0.2kg/KWh I emitted about 90kg CO2 as a result of my driving plus the embodied energy in my 9 year old EV. I'm happy with this :)
that's so true, would be also good to mention about enviromental cost associated to internal combustion servicing (oil, filter, belt etc.) ; even if EV also need a service at, really doesn't produce any waste other then actually going to the dealeship
There are many costs we have ignored fot way too long, and the environmental, is one of them.
Amazing animation! Can you please make a German version of this? I need these facts almost every single day!
There is already an official german version from TH-cam Channel "Move Electric".
When I was in Germany I realised that an aversion to subtitles was a national characteristic. Strange for a country with such a high literacy rate.
Already been done. Here you go
th-cam.com/video/Mm6n9FUm5f8/w-d-xo.html
There is an amazing version in Spanish
@@zivkovicable since all the movies here are synchronized, we are not so used to subtitles
This is amazing, let's share it everywhere
in australia we're about to add an EV tax.... awesome
Thanks for a great video. I am surprised however at the % of clean energy produced in US and Europe you mention in your video (around 50%). I think it would be great if you could mention your source as it would strengthen your argument.
Again thanks a lot for a great video!
A Google brings it up. Why clutter a simple vid?
@@johnburns4017 In today's age with the level of misinformation we can unfortunately see it is quite common to back up what is exposed as fact with where these facts have been sourced so that no one can question the validity of these facts. You do not need to edit the video though you could put the link of the source in the description like other youtube video channel do.
Well...that opened my mind about EVs even more. I already knew gas was ineffectient and very pollutive, but this animation is so good. I'm saving for an EV and I'm hoping in 2025 I will exchange my car for and eletric one. Until there I will keep studying and working for making my dream come true. I absoluty love the tech that is coming with every new car that is coming out and the future that is waiting for us. And the dude in the end of the video was so good :D.
Hope this goes Viral!
Great video. I wouldn't have made the Tesla driver when he trashed the Mustang a hit and run jerk though!
Thank you yet again for addressing the daily concerns here. Find and informative. Well done.
I would love if you could address the embodied energy and recycling concerns.
Renewables don’t start with putting up a solar panel and it doesn’t finish with taking it off. Material sourcing, manufacturing and recycling is easily looked over.
recycling is a non issue, Tesla claims to have a 1 million mile battery. we need to reduce emissions b 50% in 10 years, Tesla batteries wouldn't be recycled for like 80 years. average batteries are expected to last for 15-20 years
Grt initiative. Worthy. Feeling like we are ahead of new revolution.