The end of the combustion engine? | FT Energy Source

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  • Across the globe, billions are being invested in the electrification of the car industry. Governments have put future bans on the sale of internal combustion engines, but recently we’ve seen politicians backtracking a little on the issue. Also, there are still huge infrastructure and cost challenges ahead for EVs. So, are reports about the death of the internal combustion engine a little premature?
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  • @ianl.4470
    @ianl.4470 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    I wholeheartedly agree that we need to move towards more green energy, electrification, etc. But as someone who has travelled often to Tokyo, Osaka, HK, Shanghai... you'll notice that pushing aggressively towards EV's just isn't that "front of mind". Why? Because ~95% of the people living in or around those cities don't even own cars. People get around on public transit which - while not perfect - is generally working well and so much more efficient than everyone getting around in personal vehicles. Instead of throwing billions into incentivizing the sale / purchase of EV's, governments would get better bang for buck if they just invested in better public transportation. My 2 cents.

    • @davestagner
      @davestagner 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Efficiency and effectiveness of public transportation is VERY dependent on population density. Works great in dense cities, but it’s terrible in rural or even suburban areas.

    • @bbasleigh6149
      @bbasleigh6149 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Public transport run by the State not for profit? As with Labour government to renationalise the train companies. Impossible for people living in apartments to charge cars unless the battery technology more accessible. The cost of electricity to charge cars? EV cars expensive to repair? Replacement batteries cost?

    • @marcor5886
      @marcor5886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Governments prefer to give away taxes via subsidies to Ellon Must and the chinese rather than investing the same amount in the real environmentally-friendly solution: public transport. We should reduce the energy and materials consumption per person. For those who live outside the urban areas the use of a combustion engine is acceptable

    • @davestagner
      @davestagner 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marcor5886 That’s not stopping CO2, that’s just slowing it down a bit. Even if we reduced by 50% (which ain’t happening), that just means hitting 3c in 75 years rather than 50. Arguing to reduce consumption rather than replace it with a clean alternative is maybe a good anticapitalist argument, but it’s a lousy environmental argument and shouldn’t be made as an environmental argument.

    • @ianl.4470
      @ianl.4470 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davestagner the climate change dilemma is going to take multiple solutions. Especially when you have a significant chunk of the population ingrained in their beliefs or modes of transport - you have to work with them, sometimes around them; but in pushing EV's on that crowd, you are missing the low hanging fruit right in front of you. For folks living in cities, replacing every one of their ICE vehicles with an EV is just going to replace one large, inefficient mode of transportation with another (I would argue, expensive and resource intensive) mode.
      Imagine if even half of the millions of ppl riding around on the light rail systems (in cities that have them) had their own cars - how much more space, road infrastructure, vehicle services would these ppl need? Now imagine that in reverse, being able to take millions of cars off the roads in cities that currently have large multi-lane road networks going in every direction, never-ending traffic congestion, etc... my point is, those ppl don't actually need cars, once you give them a faster option, they will take it. Maybe they can rent a car when they need one. Sure, make that rental car an EV.
      I'm ok with some folks continuing to own ICE vehicles - ppl living in low density situations, outside of cities etc. Yeah, maybe fuel gets too expensive over time for them and encourages a shift to an EV. But address the problem that is affecting a much higher percentage of the population, and you get quicker, more efficient and longer lasting wins.

  • @sasike14
    @sasike14 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Visit Norway for a working example.
    System supported electrification many years ago, of course thanks to its oil profits as well.
    But today EV is still the option with discounted price and better benefits by the system, infrastructure is there after the decade of building, public sector uses EVs and anybody can buy their own while there is a massive 2nd-hand market thanks to all af this.
    ICE is not going anywhere.
    Electrification is a process, but it can work 😊

  • @CausticLemons7
    @CausticLemons7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    If we spend a century and trillions of dollars on EVs then maybe we can more easily make a direct comparison to oil. I hate that so many people ignore the huge amounts of subsidies and power of the established industries that has been propping up fossil fuels when talking about BEVs.

    • @number1genoa
      @number1genoa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      From what I have
      Read oil is well subsidized in most countries and the legacy auto makers in the US have also had
      Bailouts except Ford.

    • @paperhouse6282
      @paperhouse6282 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@number1genoaevery country subsidize oil, our tax money just to dig oil then we BURN it

    • @rotaryenginepete
      @rotaryenginepete 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we did. Thomas Edison made EV's in the 1800's and they failed back then too.

    • @number1genoa
      @number1genoa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was talking to a relative recently and he postulated that there isn't any industry that is truly financially independent Ie when you dig deeper it might be that all industries benefit to some degree from direct or indirect subsidies

    • @CausticLemons7
      @CausticLemons7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rotaryenginepete A lot of electric products failed in the early days but are now essential.

  • @cybertrucker300
    @cybertrucker300 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    We just bought our second Tesla and we are officially an EV only household with Solar and Powerwalls.

    • @fe2nq
      @fe2nq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fully electric vehicles, as of 2024 are worse for the environment than an efficient plug in hybrid

    • @cybertrucker300
      @cybertrucker300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fe2nq pump oil out of gulf - transport it - use electricity to refine it - then transport it again to a gasoline station in a diesel semi - drive your hybrid to a gasoline station and use electricity to pump it into your hybrid. Yeah that is better for the environment.

    • @fe2nq
      @fe2nq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There I fixed it for you

    • @raptor31able
      @raptor31able 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cybertrucker300 yes it is much worse, not too mention the child labor and abuses involved.

  • @angliccivilization1346
    @angliccivilization1346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    One of my vehicles is 30 years old, another is 20 years old. And I have two other vehicles that are IC. I am middle age and fully intend to keep them all running well into my old age.

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      t'll be down to how much you'll be willing to *pay* to keep them running.

    • @riceast9054
      @riceast9054 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No matter what it costs to fix the cost is always LESS than buying so short lived and defective EV or even one of the high priced modern SUV's and Pickups which all those with defects below the belt insist on buying !!

    • @HydroDjin
      @HydroDjin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only problem is manufactures stopping production of parts, I'm sad to be living in a time where cars are leaning more towards environmental efficiency rather than sound and power @@riceast9054

    • @fe2nq
      @fe2nq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok

    • @PyroShields
      @PyroShields 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't run an ICE vehicle when gas stations will not be around or hard to find one.

  • @andyroid7339
    @andyroid7339 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    It would have been good to hear that despite e-fuels lauded as being an solution, ICEs running on them still produce some NOx and SO emissions (as well as some partially unburnt carbon products e.g. CO) and will still require an oil change (and fuel additives) at least every 20k miles.

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also, the cost of synthetic fuels will be prohibitive. They are likely to cost 3 to 4 times the price of unleaded gas/petrol.....

    • @andyroid7339
      @andyroid7339 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Brian-om2hh - This could be relatively easily reversed. Fossil oil is currently heavily subsidised and lobbied for (one only has to look at despicable behaviour of the COP28 hosts - b*stards!) The tech required for processing crop oil is much simpler and would not require the distillation columns and the amount of energy input of fossil oil.

    • @nwmacguy
      @nwmacguy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andyroid7339 no need for crops for nuclear power-made e-fuels. Have a look at "John Bucknell - Nuclear Plant Economics & Synthetic Fuel Cogeneration @ TEAC8"

    • @caravanstuff2827
      @caravanstuff2827 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The only CO2 and particulates that are emitted are from "blow-by" from the oil rings..far lower than from conventional rice vehicles..and no one ever mentions the CO2 deficit that battery electric vehicles have at point of sale , purely because of the massive amounts of CO2 required for mining and manufacturing of batteries..if you live in a country that produces electricity with coal , gas or other CO2 emission sources then your transferring the CO2 from your exhaust pipe to a power station..the future of transportation is eclectic not battery electric!!.❤️🙏🇺🇸

    • @nwmacguy
      @nwmacguy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@caravanstuff2827 234gCO₂eq/kWh for my local area grid for 2023. About 58gCO₂eq/mile or about 37gCO₂eq/km for around town EV driving. My gasoline vehicle is about 400gCO₂eq/mile or 252gCO₂eq/km.

  • @johnpatrick1588
    @johnpatrick1588 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The top 1% (77 million people) generates the same CO2 as the bottom 65% (5 billion) in a year. A person in the bottom 95% would need 1500 years to generate the same CO2 as one billionaire. Net zero will not happen. Nonprofit Oxfam number I think.

  • @naratipmath
    @naratipmath 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I don't care if electric of ICE as long as I can buy it at less than £8000. Never bought a new car in my life (not financially ignorant enough to do it). My current car was bought at £7500 about 8 years ago and still run like normal (just typical regular services and maintenances).

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The used EV market is already thriving. One well known TH-camr bought a 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it for £4400 a few weeks ago. Something like that, along with a decent off-peak tariff, and you've got motoring at less than 2p per mile. I know a guy who got a new but unused EV home charger for £250. It was still in it's original packaging......

    • @timmurphy5541
      @timmurphy5541 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think ithe variety and quality of new models is exploding - that explosion is only just beginning to reach the 2nd hand market so I feel it's worth waiting a year or 2 - some of the great cars that were released last year might be entering the second hand market by then.

  • @johnpatrick1588
    @johnpatrick1588 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In UK people are complaining the EV costs more to charge than to fill the tank on an equivalent car.

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only because it is a new technology and the Guinea pigs buying now are paying well over the cost to manufacture to cover r&d costs.Also, you trust insurance companies, teslas cost on average three to four times more to cover than other electric cars and if insurance companies make insurance too prohibitive to buy an ev then manufacturers will have no choice but to start their own insurance, hopefully not as bad as tesla who don't have enough service centres to service existing teslas never mind those that need repairs due to accidents.@@geocam2

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you charge at home on a suitable off-peak tariff, the cost is around an 8th the price of using petrol. If you have no choice but to use public charging, then taking out a subscription to the charge network you use is the solution, and can reduce costs by as much as 50%. I take it you were not aware of subscription services? My local public charge network charges 38p per kwh using one of the 3 subscription rates they offer. That puts the cost at around the normal domestic home rate, and around half the cost of using petrol.....

    • @thewatcher5822
      @thewatcher5822 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on where you charge. Charging at home is considerably cheaper, rapid charging depends on the vendor. Tesla compete very well, Gridserve are excellent but others can be quite expensive

  • @stevehayward1854
    @stevehayward1854 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The National grid, themselves said there is no risk to the grid as EV's charge over night when the grid is under used, EV's help to balance the grid

    • @wotireckon
      @wotireckon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you mean no risk to the grid.

    • @cgamiga
      @cgamiga 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yup, in UK during a storm, utilities PAID EV owners to charge their cars as they had a surplus of wind-powered electricity.
      Soon as more cars get vehicle-to-grid features, EVs can act as home batteries, being paid to help stabilize the grid during high-demand times...

    • @stevehayward1854
      @stevehayward1854 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@cgamigaWe are slowly moving away from a centralised power generation to every house being a generator.
      Solar panels and batteries are the future as many days in the summer I am generating over twice as much as I need for any 24 hr period, in the winter it's just 50% but I am limited to 4 kWh by the ability of the cable going to the street to carry more. If building regs stated 3 phase cable instead of single phase I could use more solar panels and generate enough to cover for winter generation levels

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@stevehayward1854unfortunately solar cannot play a very large part in the UK, because they produce much less in the winter and when all heating is electrified we will need much more elecricty in the winter. Once there are enough wind turbines to cover the winter demand there will be spare electricity during the summer, even if there were no solar panels. Adding solar will just make the excess worse. You will not be paid anything for exporting electricity most of the time once we reach that point. Only when the wind drops will solar export be valuable. Wind turbines are much more economical at large scale than small scale so most electricity will still be produced by power companies.

    • @stevehayward1854
      @stevehayward1854 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adrianthoroughgood1191 Any renewable energy generation system will need a balance of all types of generators and storage to handle the intermit supply of renewables, some days Solar produces too much and others not enough and the same for wind, except with Wind it generates energy when we dont need ie overnight, so the grid must have storage to save all that excess power to use it when we dont have enough. Solar is not the whole picture nor is any other renewable. Today in the UK, Wind generated 50% of our energy needs and Gas 10%, in total fossil fuels generated just 15% of our power, soon it will be none

  • @lesp2177
    @lesp2177 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Cars using ICE are about 20% efficient in converting chemical energy to mechanical energy. Fossil fuels are one of the most dense sources of chemical energy making its portability feasible. However, electric motors are up to 90% efficient in converting electricity to mechanical energy. So that part is a no brainer. Transmissions are not necessary in EVs and most of the mechanical functions can be done with electronics making them cheaper once they are in production. The F16 is an example of how hydraulic and mechanical systems can be supplanted by electro-mechanical systems. Julia has a much better grip on the subject than the others.

    • @goodtoBfit
      @goodtoBfit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fact that you still call it "fossil fuel" when it has nothing to do with fossils just blows my mind.

    • @lesp2177
      @lesp2177 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're easily impressed.@@goodtoBfit

  • @stevehayward1854
    @stevehayward1854 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    40% of the worlds Lithium today is mined in Australia but refined in China, it wouldn't be too much of a problem to build refineries everywhere, negating the dominance of China

    • @fe2nq
      @fe2nq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe that’s why they took away Australia’s weapons

    • @stevehayward1854
      @stevehayward1854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fe2nq ?

  • @ldm3027
    @ldm3027 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    several howlers in this video, eg from Campbell FT -
    Every time someone drives up and needs
    4:13
    to fast charge, the amount of power
    4:16
    draw on that system is enormous.
    4:18
    That means the energy grid has to be much more robust.
    4:21
    That is very expensive and takes a very long time to put in.
    .....................................................
    completely wrong - fast chargers will use their own stationary batteries to charge the EV and will recharge themselves slowly from the grid so that the demand is spread out
    ............................................................
    Campbell FT-
    You will still be able to buy an internal combustion engine
    8:14
    car in Europe in 2034.
    8:16
    You'll be able to buy one in the US
    8:18
    much later than that, and Latin America much,
    8:20
    much later than that.
    8:21
    And these things are going to be on our roads for decades.
    ..........................................
    dont bet on it - making ICE cars is a numbers game and as the volumes drop it just wont be worth making them as the cost rises and EVs get cheaper and their running cost
    including charging, insurance and maintenance etc falls well below ICEs. So it will be a brave OEM that carries on with ICE in the face of market forces

  • @dantethunderstone5766
    @dantethunderstone5766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I'd like to hear a discussion around fuel prices. At what point in the reduction in oil use will it become too expensive to use

    • @bobcrow1462
      @bobcrow1462 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Why do you think that oil production will be reduced? Oil is used to make just about everything - clothes, plastics, etc.

    • @AllenGraetz
      @AllenGraetz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Half of the barrel of oil is used for things other than energy. Oil ain't going away.

    • @neilmckay8649
      @neilmckay8649 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oil producing countries will reduce prices and profit margins and increasingly sell more to developing countries that are still evolving from foot, horse, bicycle and motorcycle transport into ICE cars, likely discarded cars from first world countries ...

    • @godfreyberry1599
      @godfreyberry1599 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the general idea. Private transport and the RIGHT to own the means of transportation by the individual will be targeted by the combined obscene cost of EV's & their power source and unjustified fuel oil cost spikes by means of more TAXES on both - WATCH THIS SPACE - GOVERNMENT MANIPULATION OF THE RIGHT'S AND FREEDOMS OF THE INDIVIDUAL AT IT'S FINEST.

    • @My_HandleIs_
      @My_HandleIs_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neilmckay8649ice will not be their choice, the same way they skipped several iterations the ”west” did with phone tech.
      They go directly to current tech, or the previous generation, they skip the other gen’s!
      Oil companies are fighting tooth and nail with lobbyists, useful idiots and bribes, but in the long run, new tech will win.

  • @philv3941
    @philv3941 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    ICE : 6000 moving parts, 25 to 42% of efficiency, 95 to 200kg of materials.
    Electric machine : 1 to 4 moving parts, 90 to 97% efficiency, 35 to 90 kg of materials

    • @reboot2020
      @reboot2020 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lotus Elise 723kg, Tesla Roadster 1305kg

    • @bobcrow1462
      @bobcrow1462 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And those rare earth materials will be expensive and in short supply. On the other hand, there's almost an unlimited supply of fossil fuel thanks to fracking and shale oil extraction.

    • @mcyclonegt
      @mcyclonegt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are not 6000 moving parts on an ice drive train. You have been lied to.

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bobcrow1462 >> And those rare earth materials will be expensive and in short supply. > On the other hand, there's almost an unlimited supply of fossil fuel thanks to fracking and shale oil extraction.

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      gas is about 100 times more efficient than an average lithium battery in EVs today: 160KWh/kg (pack level density), which means more weight and raw materials.

  • @virupakshawalla5734
    @virupakshawalla5734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Food for fuel is feckin madness 😢

  • @kikolatulipe
    @kikolatulipe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    We will witnessed the death of FT before the combustion engine !

    • @bobcrow1462
      @bobcrow1462 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is FT? Why did you abbreviate it? There's plenty of room here for comments.

  • @marianoalippi5226
    @marianoalippi5226 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The recycling of electrification, is also key to stop polution.

  • @daviddean707
    @daviddean707 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have held off buying a car for 50 years now and listened to all the hypocrites who drive ICE cars since the first EV cars rolled out.

  • @mcyclonegt
    @mcyclonegt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Unless there is a major battery break through, the ICE engine is nowhere near dead. It will slowly fade out over time.

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOl the fact that existing batteries are able to do enough for 96% proves you are very wrong, battery tech is improving we need it to, but it is acceptable right now.

    • @mcyclonegt
      @mcyclonegt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewbrown6578 Ok.

    • @mcyclonegt
      @mcyclonegt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @andrewbrown6578 I don't know where you got this 96% from, but you have been lied to. Battery technology is nowhere near acceptable. I drive an EV, and it is a pain in the butt sometimes. Way more than 4 percent of the time. As is the case with the half a dozen or so people I know personally that have one. Maybe acceptable 75% of the time. We all rely on our ICE rigs for travel. Not Worth getting stranded.

    • @thewatcher5822
      @thewatcher5822 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mcyclonegt Well that depends on the EV you are diving. A Tesla would fit most peoples needs no problem. Price might be an issue, but prices will only fall.

  • @stevehayward1854
    @stevehayward1854 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Banning combustion engines by a certain date is irrelevant, EV's are commercially inevitable

  • @svtraversayiii9453
    @svtraversayiii9453 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    E fuels will be important. That said, they will be too important for the de-carbonization of long haul aviation to waste them in motor vehicles - for which battery electric is a much more efficient solution.

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will become less important and less relevant, due to the cost implications. The cost to produce e fuels will be high, and it will still need to be transported all over the place, to where it is sold and used. Electricity needs no transportation, as it uses the grid.... Even the fuelling stations e fuels might use *still* rely on a supply of *electricity*

    • @adrianthoroughgood1191
      @adrianthoroughgood1191 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. We need different things for different uses. It's only the idea that efuels mean you don't need to switch to EV that is wrong. Same as we need green hydrogen for some uses but that doesn't mean you don't need to install a heat pump for your home.

  • @thisisnumber0
    @thisisnumber0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And not a word about insurers distancing themselves from EVs because they're 25% more expensive to repair and keep bursting into flames.
    Premiums going through the roof if you CAN find an insurer.

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe in the US where they feel they can rip off everyone at will, a Kia Niro, a big car cost less to ensure than my present ford that is 16 years old in the UK, tesla has a problem , do not put that on other manufacturers, casting half the car and expecting insurance to cover the cost of replacing half the car in even a very small accident was a huge mistake by tesla, they move the cost of manufacturing to the consumer and is why there sales are dropping, that and the latest report on how there suspicions are failing regularly, and they lied that it is because people creep up a kerb like in every other car.

  • @johnpatrick1588
    @johnpatrick1588 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I keep cars for 20 years I guess that won't be affordable with replacing batteries. So a lot of people will be junking cars around 10 years if the battery gets weak. That is a lot of trash.

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope a ev battery can last much more than 20 years right now, the problem is battery manufacturers don't want them to last that long, but wait solid state is emerging as the new battery technology, 5 years max and they will be selling in huge numbers and they can basically last a lifetime. No not a future technology they exist right now.

  • @grenenthomas8115
    @grenenthomas8115 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Almost all the people complaining have no experience of owning an electric car.

  • @neilmckay8649
    @neilmckay8649 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very balanced summary. Power generation needs to be carbon free. It is carbon emissions anywhere that is the environmental issue. No gain in building gas and coal PS. Oil producing countries will cut the price and profit margins and sell to developing third world ICE driving countries.

  • @stevehayward1854
    @stevehayward1854 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Materials for electrification are plentiful and are recyclable so once mined will used over and over again.
    There is a lake in America just discovered that has enough Lithium for 327 million vehicles alone, the supply chain is growing

  • @michaelmueller9635
    @michaelmueller9635 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a change: If you can't deny the climate change, go for maximal delay and make measure as complicated as possible.
    And this is, what the FT is doing here by transporting this message.

  • @MrArtist7777
    @MrArtist7777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Peter Campbell guy is delusional, EV’s are the obvious future, and quick, of transportation. I own 2 EV’s, powered by my solar panels, and would never consider buying an oil money pit, ever again.

  • @ghitam6
    @ghitam6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Combustion engine are dirty and needs to alway change engine oil, electric cars less maintenance and more clean.

  • @brianliao5268
    @brianliao5268 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Considering extremely cold / hot weather, life expectancy of battery, charging wait time , charging availability…. EV may be a second car option of suburban. A Japan ice car can last for 20-30 years and in the meantime, EV need to change the battery 1-2 times.

    • @zbynekkriston3932
      @zbynekkriston3932 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah and during the 20-30 years of an ice car life you don't have to do anything on it!

    • @jellyd4889
      @jellyd4889 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If it's a modern ICE car, then the oil has been changed every year, a few belts exchanged, or a chain, spark plugs a few times, air filter, petrol filter, Nox sensor broken, exhaust replaced. Cost: 5000 and the rest.....as I am touching the tip of the iceberg. My oil change costs 350 from the dealer.

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would you "change" the battery? Haven't you heard of battery pack refurbishments?

    • @waynerussell6401
      @waynerussell6401 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Deeply ignorant lies not based on any research or backed with data - ie FUD!
      Average miles of an ICE without maintenance is ~3000-5000 miles before an oil change, 100k for transmission fluid and 150k for coolants. Forgetting to do these can result in catastrophic failure, because moving things wear a lot without care. Timing belts and water pump are recommended every 60,000-100,000, muffler replacement in urban driving at least twice, catalytic converter and automatic transmission ~ 100k miles. Average mileage before scrapping is 133k miles. Only 1 percent of cars built every year make it past 200,000 miles (Road&Track 6 Dec 2022).
      An extensive data base on the Dutch-Belgium Tesla Forum tracks early Tesla battery packs at 300-500k miles with an initial degradation of 5% after 50k miles and thereafter 1% per 50k. Tesla early testing in the lab simulated over 500,000 miles to 80% of its original capacity.
      Modern LFP batteries from CATL are rated at a million miles and BYD a million kilometres. Dahn has lab tested NCM cells cycling at urban use rates of 20-70% with over 10k cycles or 4 million kilometers of use.
      th-cam.com/video/rOAYjcO6kao/w-d-xo.html
      Battery management of temperature in a Tesla gives only a 15% reduction in range at zero degrees C (Recurrent Auto) and all the top (20-80+% new sales) BEV adoption countries are cold European climates.
      Battery supercharging will give 75 miles of range in the time a gas car takes to fill. Nyland shows 10K km trips are as fast as an ICE car at 10 hrs with usual comfort stops.
      ICE is DEAD.
      Ignorance is living.

  • @garryr002
    @garryr002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The market will decide this one not just because of the regulations., but because of the opportunity for profit.

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ummm that is only tesla that is suffering due to their idiotic move to cast half the car as one piece ,and the cost of a new ev, which will drop by more than 50% in 5 years, once prices drop insurance will be much, much cheaper than what we see now unless there is just a profit grasp because it is new tech. Teslas insurance costs will never drop and that is why they will be out of the market as soon as r&d costs have been paid by the Guinea pigs buying evs now. Important to remember the history of cars and how they were seen as way too expensive compared to the horse and cart the benefits outweigh the negative so much, eventually every family has a car@@geocam2

  • @Mr--_--M
    @Mr--_--M 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    *That awkward moment when the EV charging station is getting power from a coal-fired power station.....*

    • @wotireckon
      @wotireckon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Overall emissions are still way better than ice cars.

    • @davestagner
      @davestagner 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Even a “coal-fired” EV is more carbon-efficient than a gasoline-powered car, because coal turbines are about twice as efficient as gasoline engines in cars.

    • @Cap_management
      @Cap_management 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Last coal plants will be shut down in next 10 years. Most countries now make enought renewable energy to power 100% of cars electric simply from solar or wind.

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still building out the solar panels for the charging of the system and providing free energy basically after the initial few years. Also it is not generators charging evs they are too inefficient and slow unless you are prepared to pay a lot of money for something you don't need.

    • @thewatcher5822
      @thewatcher5822 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Renewables are now the cheapest and fastest growing in the energy sector.

  • @UnknownUser-in1ok
    @UnknownUser-in1ok 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Yeah... Not gonna happen any time soon

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Happening now, with increasing speed..and good job too.

    • @josephmarble2371
      @josephmarble2371 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Not really. Even in Los Angeles I don't see the adoption rate anywhere near what they hope. The problem is simple the cost of the battery. Half the price of the Mach-e base model is its battery. That makes it very expensive for most normal people to rationally buy a used electric vehicle. Until the battery cost is solved, it's going to be a long while to full adoption.
      Not to mention that forcing poor minority people out of their ICE vehicles is just going to come off as racist and inequitable.

  • @nigelmartin3339
    @nigelmartin3339 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    EV’s are far superior to Dino burners. Anyone that says different has never driven a modern EV

  • @ranjitpal9937
    @ranjitpal9937 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Replacement with Fully Charged EV Battery in 4 /5 Minutes is A Game Changer Already Huge Huge Success in China 🇨🇳

  • @shekharpaul966
    @shekharpaul966 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Copper metal …… is the backbone of Electrical transition …… and Billionaire investors already fixed their eyes in this metal !!

  • @martinbeaumier7172
    @martinbeaumier7172 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Efuels are irrelevant and stupid.. if the transition needs to be made ASAP why waste half the energy making inefficient efuels when maximum efficiency is key especially with the grid

  • @giorgiocooper9023
    @giorgiocooper9023 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No - its the end of EV’s and not the end of the internal combustion engines !

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wishful thinking on your part.......

    • @thewatcher5822
      @thewatcher5822 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EV's at this point are inevitable.

  • @graemetunbridge1738
    @graemetunbridge1738 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Usually called 'the greatest misalloation of resources in human history' though I think nuclear weapons may be even worse.

  • @johnburns4017
    @johnburns4017 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Once petro fuels become difficult to get, and more expensive, they will disappear quite quickly. In 13 years petrol cars replaced horses, the petrol car will disappear just as quick.

  • @C-Fury_LTD
    @C-Fury_LTD 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem is people take sides in this super complex debate. We need each technology to get better. The greatest issue with the internal combustion engine is not running at optimum conditions to get best thermal efficiency out of the fuel. Engines need to be under high load, with high compression and extremely fast combustion. We are working with some old and very simple converted diesel engines with pre-chamber spark ignition and port injecting Hydrous Ethanol circa 90% (The greatest error is expensive E-Fuels) and we are seeing well over 50% thermal efficiency on a wide load range. It is ideal for hybridisation for offroad applications. Let electric motors provide propulsion as they are very good at it. NOTE: Hydrous Ethanol is much easier to produce and takes significantly less energy than Anhydrous as mixed in E10 gasoline. Just adding a comment from someone who does hands on work with engines....

  • @lordwiadro83
    @lordwiadro83 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They said transportation only accounts for 8% of emissions, including airplanes, ships, etc. So why this battle against passenger cars, they probably account for 5% of emissions or less!!!

  • @bobsthea
    @bobsthea 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    personally i like ev better than ice, but here in indonesia the cheapest one can't drive uphill with four person in it plus there is some terrifying thought about batery pack replacement price as brand new car like what happen in canada with hyundai, if hyundai suggest to buy new car instead replacing defect batary pack, how other brand won't do the same thing

  • @Rnankn
    @Rnankn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The premise of the question is flawed. We need to be sensitive to the direction of causality. The available energy, is what determines the best technology, which is what determines the social arrangements in which it is embedded. Cheap abundant fossil energy made possible the culture of automobiles, and commensurate urban design, land planning and infrastructure. The future of energy cannot and will not be the same, so the technology and social organization surrounding it will be different too. Single user vehicles are not efficient or cost-effective, they do not ‘fit’ well with mass electrification. Public transportation seems far more suited to urban needs, and a high speed rail network for intercity linkages. I anticipate EV’s to be used predominantly in rural settings, to transport commodities to transportation hubs, and for emergency services and security or defense fleets. Unlike in the past, we have a specific future to achieve, and this suggests some thoughtful planning and investment are appropriate.

  • @The_Love_Doctor_Sean
    @The_Love_Doctor_Sean 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The same people do not understand the ICE will be around it has been amazing but there is a new time for other technologies. The ICE has served the human race amazingly and now it is time for us to utilize the new, I'm sure people were making the same disagreements about the ICE versus Horses.

  • @johnburns4017
    @johnburns4017 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    _"Its is not the engine [internal combustion] which is the problem, it is the fuel that is the problems"_
    *What nonsense!* 80% of the fuel in the tank is *wasted.* It is a highly inefficient engine.

  • @Joke9972
    @Joke9972 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sodium batteries are the future. And maybe also hydrogen (partly).

  • @Xamufam
    @Xamufam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Are there enough mining being done and are there enough resources on earth for that?

    • @FabioCapela
      @FabioCapela 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The answer for the first question seems to be yes, at least when you include mines that are in the process of being installed; in fact, it's predicted that for various essential minerals there will be a glut, and corresponding price fall, as production comes on-line before demand rises.
      For the second question the answer is a resounding yes; the US alone has more lithium in known reserves than the world will need for the next few decades, and it's not even where the largest known reserves are located. The same is true for the other minerals used in making EVs, the known reserves are more than enough to switch every vehicle in the world to EVs, and that even before you take into account that there are alternatives for many of those minerals.

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mining cover the sale of ten million cars a year right now , you think that will change any time soon, especially as electric cars are easier to recycle

  • @ilcomendante
    @ilcomendante 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The future is clearly OTHER types of mobility for the vast majority of people - not big bulky cars, regardless of means of propulsion..

  • @rontheoracle
    @rontheoracle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course the combustion engine is very close to the end, because everyone is looking forward to waiting in the charging station for 30 minutes just to get the additional 10% of electricity into their EV's batteries.

  • @mctfilho
    @mctfilho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ethanol is the most environment friendly fuel ever. E-fuel seems to be bulshit when you think in large scale, on the other hand bev's could works well only in central countries, but it isn't the actual scenario. So in my standpoint of view, the best solution is hybrid vehicles equiped with hydrogen, ethanol or both internal combustion engine running at high efficient range.

  • @MalindoWe
    @MalindoWe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't know there is such thing as The Great American Road Trip

  • @tomasdale5306
    @tomasdale5306 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i live in Central Ametica, a 8,000 small electric car connected to 110v enough, HAPPY, A car from Bolivia, of course that is the solution for me

  • @JonMasters
    @JonMasters 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re missing the viability of traditional infrastructure once electrification hits a tipping point. It’ll suddenly speed up.

  • @cobravoadora
    @cobravoadora 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Descentralize and liberalize the production of electricity is the key!

  • @BjorckBengt
    @BjorckBengt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    e-fuels that can be used in old cars are great. Building new cars for e-fuels is idiocy.

  • @stanleytolle416
    @stanleytolle416 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Industrial energy use can be curtail using high tempature nuclear reactors. These reactors can be reduce in size and cost by developing newer designs.

  • @carlosdeleon297
    @carlosdeleon297 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What the ICV requires are new Euro and EPA Standards harmonized with the thermodynamic limitations of the natural combustion processes, forcing them did not lead us to anything such as EGR, DPF, etc. and other unnecessary and expensive electronics.

  • @BjorckBengt
    @BjorckBengt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BEV sales will reach 80% by 2032 at the latest, purely based on economy.

  • @danielcaceres9971
    @danielcaceres9971 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coupling mobility with car ownership won’t solve it, reducing overconsumption will

  • @timeflex
    @timeflex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A combustion engine doesn't have to be petrol- or diesel-based, it may very well be running on hydrogen.

    • @thewatcher5822
      @thewatcher5822 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hydrogen will never be a thing in cars. (for many reasons)

  • @simjim21
    @simjim21 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like FT is promoting a lost cause of a shift to EVs. Key car manufacturers are turning away from EVs realizing that current production methods and solutions are inefficient and too expensive for the mass market. Plus the ecology of EVs is a false argument and collapsed quite strongly recently. The world of car producers will follow the latest steps of Toyota and it is not EVs but hydrogen.

    • @philliprobinson7724
      @philliprobinson7724 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Him Sim. Hydrogen eh? Well, that'll blow our socks off. Cheers, P.R.

  • @regolith1350
    @regolith1350 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:24 She says there's nothing inherently more expensive about EVs but in the very next sentence she explains WHY fossil fuel cars are cheaper. That's some dizzying logic. The fact that EVs might one day BECOME as cheap as gas cars doesn't change the fact that TODAY, EVs are still more expensive than comparable gas cars.

    • @geirvinje2556
      @geirvinje2556 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Toyota and VW are the companies with most debt in the world.
      Do you know why?
      They get 0% intrest loans, or subsidies.
      Oil are subsidized by $7.000.000.000.000 or 8,5% of the worlds GDP a year.
      EV's are already the cheapest.
      With the oil subsidies alone, you could give everyone in the world with a car a Tesla model 3 in 7,5 years. Or 200.000.000 cars a year ($35.000).
      PS! I know that the production of cars are 80-90 million a year. Just google the numbers...

  • @samg7123
    @samg7123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The comment about fuel being problematic and not engine is bizarre. It's a fuel which has carbon and you can't breathe co2. So what we need is 0 emission not green washing

  • @paulborneo7535
    @paulborneo7535 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EVs are on a declining cost curve. An ICE vehicle won’t be economical in 5 years.

    • @Fiskaba
      @Fiskaba 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People have a lot of feelings for ICE cars or how EVs are NOW, but when it comes to their personal or business money, all those feelings are pushed aside.
      Everyone will drive what is cheapest to run, except for car enthusiasts who want to pay more for a hobby, which are a very small percentage of people.

  • @dalethomasdewitt
    @dalethomasdewitt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    size matters. batteries don't scale.

  • @TheLRider
    @TheLRider 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do not underestimate the future of Hydrogen fuelled IC engines.. They could be our life savers. We need ALL possible solutions. .

    • @cgamiga
      @cgamiga 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hydrogen makes NO sense for passenger cars. Much too expensive/energy intensive to produce, ship, store, build fuel stations, etc... even in green California, starts for eg Toyota Mirai: fueling stations are failing, rare, running out, and VERY expensive. You are stuck in travel islands w/ no fueling network.
      For larger/longer-range eg long-range trucks, planes, ships, H2 might make sense. But not for cars. BEVs already have them beat, and the charging infrastructure is mostly already there especially Tesla

    • @TheLRider
      @TheLRider 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cgamiga Electrification of cars is fine I'm all for ALL solutions that saves us from armagedon. Green Hydrogen production and white hydrogen etc will increase in volume to satisfy heavy trucks, shipping, airlines etc and the cost will ofcourse plummet in a few years say by 2026..That cost will ofcourse make Hydrogen for cars less, expensive too. Just look at the historical cost of PVs etc for comparison.. Add to that the fact that IC engines only need modification to run on H2 and thus all the existing technology and facilities can be continued to produce those engines and you'll have a pretty compulsive financial competition with new BECVs. I get the whole desire of Tesla to try and do an Apple on us but this time he has serious competition.. BTW only 2.01% of all cars are so far electric. So a huge challenge and opportunity of course. Keep smiling and we'll get there may be.

  • @gboates
    @gboates 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I.C.E. vs EV
    from Canada
    Comparison using 180,000 km
    ICE (internal combustion engine)
    8 litres per 100km. @$1.60 per litre fuel cost
    14,400 litres of fuel at $1.60 per litre
    $23,000 fuel cost for ICE vehicle
    22 oil changes at $100per = $2200
    Total costs to run an ICE vehicle for 180,000km.
    $25,200 plus plus
    EV
    Unknown?

  • @8bitnation419
    @8bitnation419 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From Fossil Fuels to Batteries.

  • @eugp4198
    @eugp4198 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need more Hybrids than EV..
    It is easier to adopt Hybrid than EV..
    At best you might only able to get 10% of the people to own EV, but you might able to get more than 50% of people to adopt Hybrid..

    • @didierpuzenat7280
      @didierpuzenat7280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am not sure you understand what net zeo means.

  • @TrentSpriggs-n7c
    @TrentSpriggs-n7c 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hydrogen combustion engines would be around for quite a while.

  • @johnaboardviolet237
    @johnaboardviolet237 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Electric vehicles are reaching price parity with internally combustion vehicles. It will be the customer realisation that an EV is a better vehicle and cheaper to run that will be the death knell of the ICE vehicle manufacturers

    • @philliprobinson7724
      @philliprobinson7724 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi John. I think the longevity of the vehicle will have something to do with it. Cheers, P.R.

    • @PyroShields
      @PyroShields 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philliprobinson7724 EV's last longer than ICE.

  • @matthewold5816
    @matthewold5816 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ICE wil NEVER disappear.

    • @PyroShields
      @PyroShields 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good luck with that. Mandates are happening so take a picture of your ICE engine so you can remember what it looked like.

  • @Cesco_S
    @Cesco_S 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Combustion engines are not the biggest problem, EV’s are not the best solution, given the mining required to furnish new electrical infrastructure

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Combustion engines need oil based products to make them run, e-fuels are a fantasy as we will never have the feedstocks to make much of it and the conversion process is very expensive and wasteful of energy. Drilling, pumping, shipping and refining crude oil is far more damaging to the environment than mining for the minerals we need for the transition. And remember that these minerals are not burned as all fossil fuels are and at end of life will be recycled. Check out the billions of investment going into companies who recycle batteries...Redwood Materials, LiCycle, Fortum, Northvolt, EcoBat, Umicore...to name just a few. Recovery rates of lithium, nickel, copper, cobalt, manganese etc have reached 97% and this industry will be worth $50 billion by 2030. You can't recycle tailpipe emissions.

    • @vaclavnovacek1035
      @vaclavnovacek1035 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      E-fuels are probably not going to be used on mass for cars. You wont be able to buy your regular Ford or VW with it, but brands like Ferrari, Porsche and others like it will cling to them like their lives depend on it (because they probably do) and their customers will be willing to pay for it. @@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

  • @coolblu101
    @coolblu101 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As long as E fuels are more expensive and I think they always will be. They are doomed. Battery electric is cheaper and will only even more economical as time passes by.

  • @guleiro
    @guleiro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope so... (combustion engines for much more decades)

  • @neilmckay8649
    @neilmckay8649 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We've built cities that demand individual long horizontal transport.

  • @trs4u
    @trs4u 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is really a mark of how shut-in most people are to a bubble that doesn't extend much beyond their reach. Cars and vans are just kinds of vehicle. Some vehicles - warplanes are an extreme example - have no realistic prospect of electrification while remaining fit for purpose. Additionally it doesn't matter how good an electric family motor saloon is, it will be 20+ years before most people are likely to make the switch. What e-fuels give us (besides hope of real net zero instead of a bit of ooh-shiny greenwash) is the prospect of immediately displacing fossil-origin-carbon at the most basic level of our economies. EVs and heatpumps are the simply-more-efficient future for most things. They're not themselves net zero and are practically irrelevant to the problem of Climate Change. Don't be confused.

    • @jaynycha1705
      @jaynycha1705 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah pal. that's exactly what horse breeders said when the car was invented. 🙄

    • @trs4u
      @trs4u 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaynycha1705 which bit? The bit about synthetic hydrocarbons meaning we can keep petrol and diesel motors and be net zero? I had no idea horse breeders were so far-sighted!

  • @Dirk_Taggesell
    @Dirk_Taggesell 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Soundbites, soundbites, soundbites. Awful.

  • @cetocoquinto4704
    @cetocoquinto4704 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BYD is starting to sell their cars here in philippines. Mind you we have no EV charging insfrastructure like the US. Thats how aggressive the chinese are .

    • @Sergi762
      @Sergi762 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Aren't BYD cars often exploding in China?

    • @cetocoquinto4704
      @cetocoquinto4704 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sergi762 im not defending BYD but the company started as a battery manufacturing company supplying tesla. But with regards to safety standards western companies are superior.

  • @alexrazmislevich7265
    @alexrazmislevich7265 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not even close.

  • @bobm3477
    @bobm3477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The point is being missed. It doesn't take 1 ton of material to move even a whole family. First off vehicles need to be much smaller . If we moved to small monorail vehicles then the need for batteries would be greatly diminished. Such a system was used at General Motors back in the 80's to move car's and car parts around the plant. I took care of it and it works! It would eliminate accidents, traffic jambs, stoplights, weather related problems and much more. Climb in press your destination and text or read a book, the vehicle will do everything. It's a low energy alternative that could be implemented with off the shelf technology right away. The downside, it's inexpensive, our economy is largely based on automobiles.

    • @philliprobinson7724
      @philliprobinson7724 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Bob. You're right with the "smaller". were working with a conveyor belt system, not a means of personal transportation. Can you imagine the expense of putting a monorail down every second street, or the jams if everyone wanted to move at once? Also, vehicles on rails or tracks have no possibility of being "pushed to the side of the road" or "towed away" when they break down. It'll never happen mate. Cheers, P.R.

    • @bobm3477
      @bobm3477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philliprobinson7724 Monorails could be made from bamboo. Quite easy to also make them switch to different tracks somewhat like railroad tracks, all automatic. As I stated I maintained such a system and I made it work. This was in the mid 80's when computers couldn't do even close to what they can do today. Quite simple programs and we are talking about changing bits not megabits to move people all at once. Actually 29 words per communication point. Each person would take up perhaps 2 meters at the most each? I don't think that would cause much problem. I've seen it and thought it through, I've worked with most of the latest technology, this would be simple.

    • @philliprobinson7724
      @philliprobinson7724 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bobm3477 Hi Bob. Bamboo monorails? I guess you mean the vehicles themselves, not the tracks which surely must be made from steel. It might be a possibility in China or South East Asia where bamboo is one of the fastest growing plants. It must surely have a part to play in a green economy.
      My first reaction to your posting was laughter, but then I remembered the best twin engined fighter-bomber of WW2 was the DH Mosquito, made of plywood and balsa wood. I'm not sure what the rest of your letter is about, so I'll just leave you with my congratulations at being such an "outside the box" thinker. Cheers, P.R.

  • @stanleytolle416
    @stanleytolle416 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Electric vehicle are getting much cheaper. The cost of batteries is dropping and their power storage ability is increasing. These cars will be costing a third less than ICE cars and cost about a third to operate. These cars are already being produced in China with their spread to the West only a matter of time.

  • @aresivrc1800
    @aresivrc1800 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EVs are the future. Combustion engines are the past.

  • @FoxMovieRecap
    @FoxMovieRecap 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂😂😂but we in Indonesia wont change to electric ev cause very expensive 😂😂😂

  • @alexskeens9845
    @alexskeens9845 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate how people always say that we wouldn't be here without oil because we were here long before oil and it is completely destroying our world yes it did bring a lot of people out of poverty but at the entire cost of everyone living on the planet including animals doesn't seem like a good enough reason they could just feed people less poisonous food and people would be out of poverty or more practical wages the oil industry was created to take away jobs to automate things how to make machines work for us

    • @AllenGraetz
      @AllenGraetz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A newborn in 1900 on average lived ~35 years. That's 78 years today.
      Energy is life.

    • @alexskeens9845
      @alexskeens9845 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AllenGraetz that was in the 1900s and before that even the Bible States people lived hundreds of years

  • @jamespkinsella5018
    @jamespkinsella5018 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People can not afford EV's because Chinese high quality, cheap cars are not allowed or highly taxed and petrol stations/garages don't supply electricity because of weak government inflluenced by oil corporations.

  • @chasl3645
    @chasl3645 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish Joebama would stop supporting this. It's killing a lot of support..
    Ofcourse, it's making people think there's something wrong with it.

  • @somethingnewhere
    @somethingnewhere 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ICE engines are not going away - these will coexist with electric but the convenience of ICE cars will never go away - road trips with electric cars are horrible

  • @danielvandermerwe7921
    @danielvandermerwe7921 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As soon as I saw Biden I knew it wouldn’t work. And I have a model y performance.

  • @PcDoc5897
    @PcDoc5897 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah start with the ship and plane engines first.

    • @thewatcher5822
      @thewatcher5822 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are being worked on. But it makes sense to do cars as they are the easiest to switch.

  • @mehmet.albyrk
    @mehmet.albyrk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not the end of it.

  • @gotfan7743
    @gotfan7743 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As someone in Oil industry, I will tell you one thing. We will pump out a barrel of Oil for a dollar if we have to but we will not let electric cars succeed and become mainstream. Oil is tasty, Oil is yummy, Oil is the future of humanity. We will not go down without a fight. Oil is here to stay. Buy up stocks in Oil companies and bend over in respect to your Old Oil overlords.

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      🤣🤣🤣. Dream on. The petro-states need a minimum price to pay for all their social projects and to keep their populations quiet. Take away oil from those countries and what does their economy look like?...They're nothing. EV sales are now at a run-rate of 1.4 million a month globally and for every million EVs sold 20,000 bpd of crude is displaced. ICE sales peaked in 2018 and have been falling ever since. The oil industry needs to work out how to 'walk backwards slowly' and sure, countries like KSA, UAE and others in the Middle East have the lowest cost of production....they will be the 'last man standing' while those with higher costs like the tar sands in Canada and offshore drilling will go out of business. Ground transportation consumes about 40 million bpd of oil, possibly more and you will lose that to EVs, that much is certain.

    • @deeboy1957
      @deeboy1957 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 I work in mining, you would be blown away how much diesel we use mining nickel and lithium, ohhh so green

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@deeboy1957 Like the 20 to 45 cubic metres a day of diesel used by an oil drilling platform....take your pick from the outputs. You burn what you produce from your drilling rig and you can't recycle it. You can and will recycle the minerals you mine.

    • @FabioCapela
      @FabioCapela 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Don't forget two- and three-wheelers. Very light (and often cheap) electric vehicles such as electric bikes and scooters are actually displacing more oil demand than cars.

    • @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
      @kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FabioCapela Yes, I believe that is the case but cars are also displacing FF use, to the tune of 20,000 bpd for every million EVs sold.

  • @swedesam
    @swedesam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Filling up energy at the speed of gravity will still be hard to beat for a long time.

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL already beaten by kia and their ability to charge 200 miles in 20 minutes.I timed filling my car with around 200 miles range in my car, 12 minutes, if you cannot accept an extra 8 minutes to charge your car then it is a you problem as the masses would accept that with absolutely no problem, especially when malls supermarkets take away businesses . Literally every parking spot will have a charger, and you will be able to charge while doing things you do on a daily basis. Give it 5 years and you will see the changes start happening. ,Manufacturers will see anyone who wants to make a profit place chargers everywhere.

    • @didierpuzenat7280
      @didierpuzenat7280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It takes 4 seconds to charge an EV, ie the time to plug. You have need misinformed.

  • @maxthemagition
    @maxthemagition 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two fuels....Electricity and Oil (and Gas and Coal).....
    Oil Gas and Coal is easily accessible, but what about the Electricity.....
    Electricity must be generated somehow......
    Over the past century, the main energy sources used for generating electricity have been fossil fuels and, since the 1950s, nuclear energy. Despite the strong growth of renewables over the last few decades, fossil-based fuels remain by far dominant worldwide.
    So in reality we cannot get away from fossil fuels in the short term for sure.
    Fossil Fuel drives everything today.
    The reality is this....
    Can renewables replace fossil fuels.?
    Obviously at this moment in time the answer is NO.....Then how long will it take.?
    The answer is probably a VERY LONG TIME.....Decades if not Centuries.....
    Along with all of this is the EXPONENTIAL GROWTH in DEMAND for ENERGY whether it be Gas, Oil, Coal, Electricity etc.....

  • @robertn2951
    @robertn2951 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We hear the usual FUD from the naysayers...

  • @yehtan
    @yehtan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    More often than not, EVs are still charged by fossil fuels burning power stations. The best power stations have a thermal efficiency of just 60%. More energy losses will also occur along power transmission lines, during charging of EVs' batteries, inside electric motors among other things. EVs are not as efficient as proponents of the technology claimed.

    • @NeblogaiLT
      @NeblogaiLT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They are already more efficient than ICE cars in converting energy from carbohydrates into motion. Also, it is easier/better to filter all the smoke at the fossil fuel burning power stations, than from each individual car. But with wind/solar becoming available, it is already getting much cheaper to drive on your own electricity, than buying carbohydrates or grid electricity. In my own example, charging with electricity from our solar plant is 3-4x cheaper, than to use petrol. And that is from the extra electricity, which is on top of the production for our own home, where installation just for home use will pay off in 3-4 years (Lithuania).

    • @DarkBrandon1
      @DarkBrandon1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is false. You can charge your big EV truck straight from a coal plant, but your effective carbon emissions would be that of a Prius. Also, more importantly, the grid is nearly 50% nuclear/renewable now and increasing.

    • @ldm3027
      @ldm3027 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      rather odd to complain about the inefficiency of legacy (non oil fuelled) fossil power plants and point a finger at EVs. as renewables ramp up (which create electricity as a primary energy source) the demand for fossil primary energy to burn in power stations will fall and the efficiency of the whole energy system will rise

    • @yehtan
      @yehtan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarkBrandon1 You are a laughingstock. Exactly which part of my comment contains untruth. I based the 60% thermal efficiency claim on operating reports out of the newest and most efficient power stations around the world. Do you have any credible references for your claims? If not, they are just lies.

    • @yehtan
      @yehtan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NeblogaiLT I did not dispute EVs were less efficient than ICE cars. Perhaps you can read my comment again. I said that they are only marginally more efficient, maybe 10% or less, as long as they continue to tap into their local gas or coal power plants for recharging. Wind and solar is definitely the way to go but not every country has the necessary attributes for wind and solar farms. And not everyone lives in a house allowing them to install solar panels on their roof. Like many people, I live in a skyscraper inside the city so solar is not an option for me.

  • @admiralmurat2777
    @admiralmurat2777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So we're going nuclear right? That's the only way to make EVs affordable.

  • @My_HandleIs_
    @My_HandleIs_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plus, one liter of gasoline need around 1,5 kWh worth of electricity (from grid or local generators burning oil products) from well to tank.
    A 60 liter tank is therefore also ”containing” 90 kWh of electricity. Even if that number is half that, all ICEs are also electric, on top of all pollution!!
    E-fuels are even worse in kWh, as the ICE is so uber inefficient!

    • @andrewbrown6578
      @andrewbrown6578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But ice cars are not so polluting said so many, yet suck on a tailpipe for a few seconds and your dead.