The last two teams that knocked Michael Jordan’s Bulls out of the playoffs were the Detroit Pistons (1990) and the Orlando Magic (1995). Both teams were swept the next year after beating Jordan’s Bulls. Revenge is a bitch.
Tim Cooke MJ came back and played the final 17 regular season games plus the 1995 playoffs. His first game back was at Indiana in March of 95. This was the year he scored the double nickel on NY. He wore #45 until game 2, of the conference semi’s at Orlando, when he switched back to #23. Chicago beat Charlotte in the first round 3-1 then lost to Orlando 2-4 in the Conference semi’s.
Sure. And watching Laimbeer taking cheap shots every time someone gets to the rim. There is little skill in deliberately fouling another player. No thanks.
That Pistons team is one of the most overrated of all time. Mediocre to good players who were dirty as hell. You'll notice how nobody puts them up with the Lakers, Celtics, and Bulls teams of the same era.
@Harold Melvin There was no rule change at the time. Detroit was outplayed by Bulls. Second Vinny and Aguirre were the only two Pistons who played well. The others were taken out the series. I'm a Chicago native, i seen it with my own eyes!!!
@Harold Melvin Obviously you did not watch. MJ did not do to much the first two games. Everyone else did. MJ play well games 3-4. Reason he was not doubled as much is because once again he tram made plays not forcing him to do everything!!!!
well..once flagrant fouls were introduced (that year) the pistons didn't know how to play anymore. Punching someone in the stomach wasn't just a reg foul anymore. Flagrant fouls killed Laimbeer's career
The actual commentary for NBC was so Bulls' driven and anti-Pistons... no respect for the NBC crew for the back-to-back defending champion Pistons all throughout NBC's coverage of the 1990-91 season.
Lebron is way more physical than these tiny stupid so called bad boys. Ben Wallace, Ron Artest could be called bad. Bron would have posterized them all night.
The bad boy Pistons team was both. They did play great defense. But they were also dirty at times. If you think they went to 3 straight finals, winning 2 of them just by being dirty you'd be mistaken
The league should have sent them packing Crazy era when fouls like that were allowed I think the defense that Nicks and Wallace were on was a superior defense
Thats why rodman when he joins bull. His mind thought would be, this is a job nothing personal. His true feelings his true nature is what in his Pistons day and he left it there after joining Chicago
Laimber said on an interview that they get old thats why they lost. Theyre the deffending champs and they still physical as ever. Clearly theyre not getting old. He's just a bitter guy who says excuses cause they got swept. On early days of bulls they still played them great and never got swept. You just got outplayed son.
@@Da_SRB_Detroit I was a big fan of Isaiah as a kid and actually during that time Bill was cool and was on TV shows and all that. His image has been worsened over the years with all the media and such. Barry Sanders is the man though! And I say this being a Texas boy
Man I watched the Pistons do that to Jordan and the Bulls for several years before they finally decided to start lifting weights and put on some muscle to deal with their thuggish play. They knew when they went into the lane there weren't going to be any layups or dunks without a lot of contact. The Pistons knew the refs couldn't call everything so they just fouled all game long. If the refs called the game right they would have all fouled out in the 1st half.
HAHAHAHA!!!.. I respect fans for their enthusiasm but a thought must come forth, 'Did Detroit let Chicago win?'... I don't know of any situation where one team dominates another for 3 straight years and then the team that's been dominating forgets how to win a game?... Doesn't make sense, not how real life works, especially when injuries are involved. Question: Why did the Pistons break up their title-contending team? Why did Detroit play so hard vs. Boston just two days prior to the ECF and now forget how to compete or play hard vs. Chicago in the first two games? Thomas with only 9 shots in both of the first two games? Ouch. Who walked off: Aguirre, Laimbeer, Thomas... gee, I wonder where those guys are from? HAHAHAHA!!
This pistons team was one of the dirtiest teams of all time , once the bulls stopped letting the pistons push them around the pistons were done with , no respect for this pistons team they tried to bully everyone I guess they knew the couldn’t win without playing dirty
I like how the refs were more personal with the players and coaches, telling them both teams “you guys need to straighten this out right now” to prevent any more rough play
This was the difference between the Detroit Pistons of this era, and old-school NBA defense. With old-school NBA defense, they made you pay to go to the basket. They would chop your arms, or go hard at your body as you laid the ball up. Wrap you up in a bear hug. They knew they would most likely get called for the foul, but that wasn't the point - the point was they'd make you understand that to score those points, you'd have to EARN them. That was old-school NBA defense, especially late in the season or during the post-season. What the Detroit Pistons of this era did, was they didn't hit you hard as you were scoring. They would hit you hard as you were scoring, and then hit you AGAIN AFTER you scored. And that was more like being bullies than playing old-school NBA basketball. That was like being sore losers, because you already earned your points, but then you have to pay MORE afterwards. So they would throw you to the ground, or Laimbeer would stick his elbows into the side of your neck or into your spine, AFTER you scored. Because he nor they couldn't stop you from scoring to begin with - they couldn't even hit you hard AS you were scoring. SO they just hit you AFTERWARDS. Or they would take it out on the next guy on your team who was coming in for the rebound in case you missed. And that was trash.........
The Pistons leaving the floor with 07.9 is so unsportsmanlike cause it that moment sealed their fate nobody remembers the back 2 back Championship teams
@@archstanton1161 Only John Sally vinnie johnson & joe dumars shook the Bulls hands in 1991 cause the 3 main pistons that walked off the floor were mark aguire bill laimbeer and Isiash thomas
Julian Smith I know...I watched it live...They were classless assholes...But that in no way diminishes the fact they won B2B championships...Magic, Bird & MJ remember...So does everyone that watched basketball @ the time.
It’s incredible that Rodman wasn’t thrown out of the game and given a 5 game suspension for the next season. It’s so different now. All the hand checking. It’s no wonder nobody shoots threes back then. Today you can’t put hands on the guards at all.
Rodman is the only one that seemed like it wasn't personal.. It was just how he played lol I think Phil saw that and knew he could be converted to be the Bull's enforcer
Yeah that's why he had to have Pippen okay the deal 🤝... Anybody and everybody wanted Rodman. If Phil didn't have Jordan and Pippen he wouldn't have had Rodman very long or had a successful time with him. Ask John Lucas.
You can really see how much the Pistons aged during this series. They went from defending champs to being too old to compete in 4 games. At least that's the excuse you get from Pistons fans.
Pistons struggled throughout the entire playoffs in '91, getting swept by a Bulls team ran through the superior triangle offense with the more skilled core they had assembled made sense. Those Pistons were depleted. When you play ball that physically for such a prolonged amount of time since the ECF vs Celtics in '87, it takes a toll on your body and it certainly doesn't help when most of those Bad Boys players outside of Dumars and Rodman were in the tail end of their primes.
@Ulysses432 30 years old in the early 90s is different compared to today. Guys went through a harder grind during the regular season and didn't have the same medicine/technology that they do now. Isiah was past it. He definitely had better years before then. Didn't look like the Zeke a few years prior. Very small handful of players then stayed in their prime at 30, a la Magic Johnson (and it showed, as he was runner-up to Jordan in MVP voting during the '91 season carrying a weakened Lakers team). Granted, Magic's a top 10 all-time GOATs staple. Can't really say the same for Isiah. No offense but James Edwards is a non-factor as after the 80s he had slowed down tremendously. John Salley was a small time role player. Not to knock on him for what he could do but he was more known for his fights than his actual play. Salley was less relevant than Luc Longley when he arrived in Chicago. If you compare what the Pistons did as back to back reigning champs in their 1991 season, it was pretty disappointing. It doesn't help they were in a tough division with the hungry Bulls, a dog Bucks squad and a rising Pacers team, but a lot of their play looked a tad slower and people were starting to write them off even by the 2nd round. Some felt that the emergence of Reggie Lewis and a healthy Celtics team could be the end of the Pistons in as early as the Eastern Semis. Although that didn't happen, the predictors via media were clear in what they had seen that the '91 Pistons were depleted.
Yes you are right the bad boys became the sad boys an some are still sad or mad until this very day that the reef would not let them play dirty anymore it is so sad to hear isiah Thomas try to say he did not play dirty an order his team mates to play dirty that is sad 😥
@@94fleetwood49 Well because the three was not the ring leaders an they was still good an once isiah Thomas was captured Jordan Scottie an the.mighty bulls went in to dismantle the team an take.there spoiled so the general could not retreat an attack again later so it was all most like they capture those three players an turn them against the general who was ordered them to do the.dirty anyway now Jordan being the competitive as he is new by doing this it would be more worse than poring salt an hot pepper mixed with liquid acid in a whom so he had to make an example out of the general so he could put fear in every one else that you bad not come with that dirty stuff or you will get the same thing the general got yes there he is just go an ask him he use to be a bad boy but now he is a sad boy ask him an just listen for your self
John Paxson gets a foul committed against him that would be considered a flagrant foul today. And he gets the technical?? Really says a lot about MJs toughness that he was able to navigate this brutal era
Just like the Kevin McHale / Kurt Rambis foul. It was only called a regular foul. Today it would be a 2 shot foul, plus the ball, ejection, a fine, and 5 game suspension.
This is not a basket The Pistons were a very capable team, but this is not a sport, it is wrestling Even in wrestling, there is a plan in place Their two championships are invalid
You can’t blame players today for being born 25 years later. There’s nothing to suggest that they softer players other than they born or little kids during this era. They would be just adaptable because they would have known no different. Btw the Pistons did play actual basketball....this video doesn’t show Laimbeer when he was avg 18 and 10 rim protecting. This was and is not basketball the athletic quality is better
Pippen was the heart and soul of those championship Bulls teams. He was in the middle of everything, defense, toughness, ball handing, passing, and rebounding.
Bill Cartwright 34yrs old Craig Hodges 31yrs old John Paxson 31yrs old Cliff Livingston 30yrs old Michael Jordan 28yrs old Horace Grant 26yrs old Dennis Hopson 26yrs old Will Perdue 26yrs old Scottie Pippen 26yrs old BJ Armstrong 24yrs old Stacey King 24yrs old Scott Williams 23yrs old
I miss the good old days of basketball. The Pistons and Bulls rivalry was so intense. They genuinely hated each other! It was almost as intense as the Celtics and Lakers rivalry. Now the league is so soft now you get called for a foul for sneezing on somebody! SMH....Then you have almost every team in the NBA shooting 1500 threes a game is just ridiculous! What happened to running plays? Getting shots in the paint? I still watch the games but not with the same love I had..It’s not the same...🙁
The way he bullied Pippen physically, Dennis Rodman was definitley a BAD BOY as a Piston. And this was before the tattoos and piercings.. Got to give Rodman credit, one of the best, if not, the #1 defender in NBA history. No one played better defense on MJ than this guy. He was a freak of nature, for sure.
Christian Stokes You act like the Pistons were the only team in NBA history to have dirty players. John Stockton was known as a dirty player. Kobe Bryant talked about dirty tricks he would do during rebounding. James Posey would slap your calf when you went up for a dunk. You really are crying over 1 team.
There’s a world of difference between being physical and being cheap/outright life- and health endangering. Though we should all in a way be thankful Bill Laimbeer had a succesful sports career, god knows what he had done else.
This game and the walk by the pistons showed the world how they won their back to back tittles (DIRTY Play) and the tarnished ''Oh Isiah''choir boy image. Isiah now is trying to Justify the walk off with same damn sneaky smile. If it wasn't for the LAST DANCE Pistons would still be a after thought🙄
Maybe it's just me, but the Pistons cheap shots in this series seemed to be more blatant and without a lot of control. Like more for the cameras. In years past, their cheap shots were more subtle and calculated.
The Pistons' first playoff series loss since the 1988 NBA Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers. Also, their first playoff series loss to an Eastern Conference opponent since the 1987 NBA Eastern Conference Finals against the Boston Celtics.
Not just Rodman but James Edwards #53 and John Salley #22. The 3 of them teammed with the 95-96 bulls offering their defensive insight with the bulls offensive insight.
The last two teams that knocked Michael Jordan’s Bulls out of the playoffs were the Detroit Pistons (1990) and the Orlando Magic (1995). Both teams were swept the next year after beating Jordan’s Bulls. Revenge is a bitch.
*3 "Bad Boy" Pistons* on the Bulls team when MJ returned. Rodman still doing some hard fouls as a Bull.
@Lv supervisor Power1
I got this...
🤔... Probably every play.
MJ wasnt playing in 95 so wasnt his bulls. It was pipens bulls
Tim Cooke
MJ came back and played the final 17 regular season games plus the 1995 playoffs. His first game back was at Indiana in March of 95. This was the year he scored the double nickel on NY. He wore #45 until game 2, of the conference semi’s at Orlando, when he switched back to #23. Chicago beat Charlotte in the first round 3-1 then lost to Orlando 2-4 in the Conference semi’s.
@@brete1965
That's spot on, bruh...
I’m sorry but I just get bored watching teams shoot 3s all the time these days. Gimme those pure athletic drives to the basket any day
Sure. And watching Laimbeer taking cheap shots every time someone gets to the rim. There is little skill in deliberately fouling another player. No thanks.
You're delusional if you think driving is more skill than shooting on the move
Testostxrone V2 I didn’t say it’s more skill I said it’s more athletic. More strength speed and size involved.
@@levilevi9621
Tell that to Isaiah Thomas... Both of them
So your bored on watching talent? Lmao
I really dont blame any of the players from the bulls for despising the pistons until now. Just plain dirty.
Not dirty
That Pistons team is one of the most overrated of all time. Mediocre to good players who were dirty as hell. You'll notice how nobody puts them up with the Lakers, Celtics, and Bulls teams of the same era.
Agreed
@@TL2354 bro😂wat
@@christophertremain7633 Facts. They could never win anything without doing something cheap or dirty.
This is the reason Isiah was left of the Dream Team, don't blame MJ for what Thomas orchestrated, you live by the decisions you make
Isiah had beef with almost half the dream team and he was the one spreading rumors about his "best friend" Magic's sexuality.
@shawnramos1305 which I find surprising when Isiah own brother passed from aids
Once Bulls players stepped up, Pistons game plan failed.
@Harold Melvin No rule change. Bulls players stepped up. When MJ was doubled others made plays unlike previous years.
@Harold Melvin There was no rule change at the time. Detroit was outplayed by Bulls. Second Vinny and Aguirre were the only two Pistons who played well. The others were taken out the series. I'm a Chicago native, i seen it with my own eyes!!!
@Harold Melvin Obviously you did not watch. MJ did not do to much the first two games. Everyone else did. MJ play well games 3-4. Reason he was not doubled as much is because once again he tram made plays not forcing him to do everything!!!!
Yeah mj wasn't gonna lose, even the pistons player's said they knew they couldn't stop Chicago
well..once flagrant fouls were introduced (that year) the pistons didn't know how to play anymore. Punching someone in the stomach wasn't just a reg foul anymore.
Flagrant fouls killed Laimbeer's career
He lost me at “Joe Crawford is an excellent official”...
The actual commentary for NBC was so Bulls' driven and anti-Pistons... no respect for the NBC crew for the back-to-back defending champion Pistons all throughout NBC's coverage of the 1990-91 season.
Lebron might be crying all night if he played on this era 😂😂
I mean, imagine if the AC wasn't working that night... he might cramp!
True
Lebron is way more physical than these tiny stupid so called bad boys. Ben Wallace, Ron Artest could be called bad. Bron would have posterized them all night.
@@dienauto4087 - LeFlop can barely posterize the scrawny, no defense, no hand-checking fools in the league now.
No wonder Delonte f&$ked his mom.
When Scottie didn't react on the Flagrant foul, Pistons knew they'd fucked up.
Every NBA team from this era can thank the Detroit Pistons for helping create the Bulls monster! The Pistons made em nasty!!! Thanks Detroit!
Actually, thank the Celtics. Thomas said that they were the Pistons mentors.
There's a difference with great defense vs just hurting someone being dirty. The 2004 pistons shows what real defense is all about!
BUENO COMENTARIO! "RIVERA" ERES PAISANO???
Exactly 😏 True ✅
The bad boy Pistons team was both. They did play great defense. But they were also dirty at times. If you think they went to 3 straight finals, winning 2 of them just by being dirty you'd be mistaken
GTFOH nobody could guard Shaq. Both Wallace's flopped more than Vlade Divac. Refs were a joke.
Ur wrong,they was absolutely dirty
Isiash was expelled from the GOAT dream team as a result
Not exactly, Isiah had problems with Bird, Magic and Pippen but sounds better if he had problems with a Goat...
@@magicsenna Isiah wasn't Karl Malone's favorite person either.
Isiah had problems with all them dudes...Nobody wanted him on that team.
I still remember he punched Rick Mahorn on the head during a game. I think majoriy of the dream team wanted to avoid getting punched on the head
He’s a little bitch.
That pippen shove by rodman. I thought laimbeer elbow to the face was the worst part
Yes it is
The league should have sent them packing Crazy era when fouls like that were allowed I think the defense that Nicks and Wallace were on was a superior defense
SWEPT
End of story
Pippen fighting his future teammate Dennis Rodman
Thats why rodman when he joins bull. His mind thought would be, this is a job nothing personal. His true feelings his true nature is what in his Pistons day and he left it there after joining Chicago
@@brianmayabella5992 Phil Jackson made Rodman apologize to Pippen before they let Rodman onto the team tho.
@@dusttaker wow and thats good. Given Rodman is an unruly one. Godbless him
Rodman is not dirty like Lameness Lamebeer
Pippen didn’t fight anyone, he’s a pussy
The way Horace Grant looks at Bill Laimbeer at 1:09 though 🤣 🤣
That was the " you fucked up". Look
YoungGun9934 😂 😂 💯
Horace Grant Has Seen Enough Of Laimbeer's Bullshit I Don't Blame Horace One Bit I'd Be Heated Too
@@jonathanwashington9199 💯
Looking like you done bitching so we can finish sweeping your asses 😂
Laimber said on an interview that they get old thats why they lost. Theyre the deffending champs and they still physical as ever. Clearly theyre not getting old. He's just a bitter guy who says excuses cause they got swept. On early days of bulls they still played them great and never got swept. You just got outplayed son.
So true
They did get outplayed but they were also pretty old also.
@Dauntless 35 Yup. Dumars was 28, Salley, 27, Rodman 30 and Isiah 30. The only "old guys" were Laimbeer at 34 and Aguirre at 32.
Facts he a sucka
Laimbeer is such a disgrace to NBA
He's a piece of SHIT
@@wood4278 I think only Pistons fans admire him.
@@wood4278 Agree
@@Texas_Cruiser
Laimbeer ROCKS, boyyyyy. 🏀🔥😠🏀🔥😠
@@Da_SRB_Detroit I was a big fan of Isaiah as a kid and actually during that time Bill was cool and was on TV shows and all that. His image has been worsened over the years with all the media and such. Barry Sanders is the man though! And I say this being a Texas boy
Man I watched the Pistons do that to Jordan and the Bulls for several years before they finally decided to start lifting weights and put on some muscle to deal with their thuggish play. They knew when they went into the lane there weren't going to be any layups or dunks without a lot of contact. The Pistons knew the refs couldn't call everything so they just fouled all game long. If the refs called the game right they would have all fouled out in the 1st half.
Jordan gained some muscle after 91. The rest were still skinny, until the Bulls picked Rodman.
Joel Driver so I guess the Lakes and Celtics when they played was no big deal then. It’s cool if they do it but Detroit were just a bunch of thugs.
Even the shoes were beefed up, The Jordan 8's with the straps were built for war.
@@94fleetwood49 lol pippen was not skinny
HAHAHAHA!!!.. I respect fans for their enthusiasm but a thought must come forth, 'Did Detroit let Chicago win?'... I don't know of any situation where one team dominates another for 3 straight years and then the team that's been dominating forgets how to win a game?... Doesn't make sense, not how real life works, especially when injuries are involved. Question: Why did the Pistons break up their title-contending team? Why did Detroit play so hard vs. Boston just two days prior to the ECF and now forget how to compete or play hard vs. Chicago in the first two games? Thomas with only 9 shots in both of the first two games? Ouch. Who walked off: Aguirre, Laimbeer, Thomas... gee, I wonder where those guys are from? HAHAHAHA!!
This pistons team was one of the dirtiest teams of all time , once the bulls stopped letting the pistons push them around the pistons were done with , no respect for this pistons team they tried to bully everyone I guess they knew the couldn’t win without playing dirty
the dirtiest
Yeah the bulls just didn't react to it they kept grinding and frustrated the pistons
I like how the refs were more personal with the players and coaches, telling them both teams “you guys need to straighten this out right now” to prevent any more rough play
Dirty is not Tough play, did Isaiah look back at this old videos why he didn't make it to Dream Team?
I think the ref who called the double technical on Laimbeer and Paxson is the same ref who ejected Tim Duncan for smiling.
Yes, Joey Crawford. In this video, he had hair lol.
@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 and known for being "sensitive" back then too.
@@depannist For sure. Crawford will probably go down in NBA history as being the most unpopular referee in the league.
Yes, he is the same pos
Don't smile 😃...lol.
This was the difference between the Detroit Pistons of this era, and old-school NBA defense. With old-school NBA defense, they made you pay to go to the basket. They would chop your arms, or go hard at your body as you laid the ball up. Wrap you up in a bear hug. They knew they would most likely get called for the foul, but that wasn't the point - the point was they'd make you understand that to score those points, you'd have to EARN them. That was old-school NBA defense, especially late in the season or during the post-season.
What the Detroit Pistons of this era did, was they didn't hit you hard as you were scoring. They would hit you hard as you were scoring, and then hit you AGAIN AFTER you scored. And that was more like being bullies than playing old-school NBA basketball. That was like being sore losers, because you already earned your points, but then you have to pay MORE afterwards. So they would throw you to the ground, or Laimbeer would stick his elbows into the side of your neck or into your spine, AFTER you scored. Because he nor they couldn't stop you from scoring to begin with - they couldn't even hit you hard AS you were scoring. SO they just hit you AFTERWARDS. Or they would take it out on the next guy on your team who was coming in for the rebound in case you missed.
And that was trash.........
Crawford was one of the most crooked officials in NBA history.
Never forget when he fucked the Suns in ‘07
you are right....Crawford was point shaving for vegas😂😂😂
No. Its still Earl Strom.
Today's NBA players would of been out for the whole season after a shove like that.
...and still get paid millions!!!
And there would be jail time given and James Harden would get 20 FTs per foul.
Or called in sick vs Pistons which would force the owner to secretly quadruple paid his players under the table.
The Pistons leaving the floor with 07.9 is so unsportsmanlike cause it that moment sealed their fate nobody remembers the back 2 back Championship teams
Who doesn’t remember?...The 80s was the greatest decade in NBA history.
@@archstanton1161 Only John Sally vinnie johnson & joe dumars shook the Bulls hands in 1991 cause the 3 main pistons that walked off the floor were mark aguire bill laimbeer and Isiash thomas
Julian Smith I know...I watched it live...They were classless assholes...But that in no way diminishes the fact they won B2B championships...Magic, Bird & MJ remember...So does everyone that watched basketball @ the time.
The biggest reason why the Pistons were leaving early in the game was because they wanted to avoid the traffic.
The Pistons were thugs and they went out like bullies usually do, just throwing pointless temper tantrums.
This footage was in the last dance great game from 98.
You meant 91
98?
Pistons were thugs, and Marv Albert liked wearing women's underwear and biting. What a freak show
What? Haha
It’s incredible that Rodman wasn’t thrown out of the game and given a 5 game suspension for the next season. It’s so different now. All the hand checking. It’s no wonder nobody shoots threes back then. Today you can’t put hands on the guards at all.
Pat Riley and Bob Costas counted the amount of cheap-shots thrown this game, and the Pistons had 9 by halftime, iirc
That is below average on Pistons perspective by halftime.
By today's rules Laimbeer would have been called for a Flagrant Foul and ejected from the game and maybe even a one game suspension at least.
Gladiator sport! Reminds me of a great hockey game!
Rodman is the only one that seemed like it wasn't personal.. It was just how he played lol I think Phil saw that and knew he could be converted to be the Bull's enforcer
Yeah that's why he had to have Pippen okay the deal 🤝... Anybody and everybody wanted Rodman. If Phil didn't have Jordan and Pippen he wouldn't have had Rodman very long or had a successful time with him. Ask John Lucas.
Pistons bullied the bulls and departed like a bitch.
Awesome.🤣
Real talk!
You can really see how much the Pistons aged during this series. They went from defending champs to being too old to compete in 4 games. At least that's the excuse you get from Pistons fans.
Fun fact- 1991 Pistons were not old. Dumars, their best defensive player played with the Pistons till 1999.
No the BULLS WERE A BETTER TEAM, no one was saying that before the game, sore losers, not gracious at all,
Pistons struggled throughout the entire playoffs in '91, getting swept by a Bulls team ran through the superior triangle offense with the more skilled core they had assembled made sense. Those Pistons were depleted. When you play ball that physically for such a prolonged amount of time since the ECF vs Celtics in '87, it takes a toll on your body and it certainly doesn't help when most of those Bad Boys players outside of Dumars and Rodman were in the tail end of their primes.
@Ulysses432 30 years old in the early 90s is different compared to today. Guys went through a harder grind during the regular season and didn't have the same medicine/technology that they do now. Isiah was past it. He definitely had better years before then. Didn't look like the Zeke a few years prior. Very small handful of players then stayed in their prime at 30, a la Magic Johnson (and it showed, as he was runner-up to Jordan in MVP voting during the '91 season carrying a weakened Lakers team). Granted, Magic's a top 10 all-time GOATs staple. Can't really say the same for Isiah.
No offense but James Edwards is a non-factor as after the 80s he had slowed down tremendously.
John Salley was a small time role player. Not to knock on him for what he could do but he was more known for his fights than his actual play. Salley was less relevant than Luc Longley when he arrived in Chicago.
If you compare what the Pistons did as back to back reigning champs in their 1991 season, it was pretty disappointing. It doesn't help they were in a tough division with the hungry Bulls, a dog Bucks squad and a rising Pacers team, but a lot of their play looked a tad slower and people were starting to write them off even by the 2nd round. Some felt that the emergence of Reggie Lewis and a healthy Celtics team could be the end of the Pistons in as early as the Eastern Semis. Although that didn't happen, the predictors via media were clear in what they had seen that the '91 Pistons were depleted.
This was the 1st year of flagrant fouls. Interesting that it's also the Bulls' 1st championship. What was that Wilt quote about MJ again?
They so dirty
Yes you are right the bad boys became the sad boys an some are still sad or mad until this very day that the reef would not let them play dirty anymore it is so sad to hear isiah Thomas try to say he did not play dirty an order his team mates to play dirty that is sad 😥
@@davidmcdonald9412 Then why did the Bulls pickup 3 "Bad Boy" Pistons in the Bulls 2nd 3-peat including dirty Rodman?
@@94fleetwood49
Well because the three was not the ring leaders an they was still good an once isiah Thomas was captured Jordan Scottie an the.mighty bulls went in to dismantle the team an take.there spoiled so the general could not retreat an attack again later so it was all most like they capture those three players an turn them against the general who was ordered them to do the.dirty anyway now Jordan being the competitive as he is new by doing this it would be more worse than poring salt an hot pepper mixed with liquid acid in a whom so he had to make an example out of the general so he could put fear in every one else that you bad not come with that dirty stuff or you will get the same thing the general got yes there he is just go an ask him he use to be a bad boy but now he is a sad boy ask him an just listen for your self
This is REAL BASKETBALL
John Paxson gets a foul committed against him that would be considered a flagrant foul today. And he gets the technical?? Really says a lot about MJs toughness that he was able to navigate this brutal era
Just like the Kevin McHale / Kurt Rambis foul. It was only called a regular foul. Today it would be a 2 shot foul, plus the ball, ejection, a fine, and 5 game suspension.
1:09 Horace sideways glance at Lame Beer LOL
Lame Beer? OMG, that’s soooooooooooooo original! Did you come up with that all on your own? Amazing!
@@TL2354 we’ve called him that for decades. You’re easily impressed lol
Jordans response- You'd better eat your wheaties.
If Lamebeer pulled some of this off the basketball court he'd get arrested. Phil Jackson should have called 911😂
Man I miss that B-Ball ..all that defense
seeing this guy(laimbeer) in a mask gives me some satisfaction, knowing he got some of what he dished out..
Is that a CDC approved face covering!? lol
This is not a basket The Pistons were a very capable team, but this is not a sport, it is wrestling Even in wrestling, there is a plan in place Their two championships are invalid
I can hardly take leflop playing in this era!!!!🤣
Best days and Era of NBA!!👍☝️💪😎
R.I.P Cotton Fitzsimmons. From a Suns fan. I know we lost in 1993. Just respect history. Go Suns!
Watch Laimbeer's elbow when Rodman fouled Pippen.
Lebron will definitely cry with rhis bad boys...
More like throw a fit.. same thing he did to his teammates during the finals season when he got swept except maybe worse
This made me realize how intense the nba used to be
Cotton Fitzsimmons 6:53 RIP
bad boys toughened up mj.
that was great basketball back then
In today's era, all the players on both teams would have fouled out in the first half
Try to be a bit original and don't copy other people's comment. jeez
All 3 comments on here are unoriginal
The Pistons were drinking ocean water they were SALTY!!!!
They are playing 🏈 football on the 🏀 Basketball court. Love it
I really feel like NBA players today would not be able to handle these types of situations and would crumble. The Bulls were really hungry.
You can’t blame players today for being born 25 years later. There’s nothing to suggest that they softer players other than they born or little kids during this era. They would be just adaptable because they would have known no different. Btw the Pistons did play actual basketball....this video doesn’t show Laimbeer when he was avg 18 and 10 rim protecting. This was and is not basketball the athletic quality is better
Pippen was the heart and soul of those championship Bulls teams. He was in the middle of everything, defense, toughness, ball handing, passing, and rebounding.
Jordan to Rodman: someday, I will teach you the essence of team 🤗
In this game, Rodman had 2 NBA titles, Jordan was still a virgin, no pun intended.
In today’s NBA the Laimbeer and Rodman fouls on Paxson and Pippen gets them ejected from the game and at minimum a 1 game suspension.
How it was in the 90's:
Player punches other player in face.
Official: If it happens again it might be an ejection.
And they had the nerve to say the bulls complained to much lol. The pistons was bullies frfr, wasnt no damn defense
Bill Cartwright 34yrs old
Craig Hodges 31yrs old
John Paxson 31yrs old
Cliff Livingston 30yrs old
Michael Jordan 28yrs old
Horace Grant 26yrs old
Dennis Hopson 26yrs old
Will Perdue 26yrs old
Scottie Pippen 26yrs old
BJ Armstrong 24yrs old
Stacey King 24yrs old
Scott Williams 23yrs old
Now, imagine if that happens in today's nba ? Lebfon will be on stretcher
I miss the good old days of basketball. The Pistons and Bulls rivalry was so intense. They genuinely hated each other! It was almost as intense as the Celtics and Lakers rivalry. Now the league is so soft now you get called for a foul for sneezing on somebody! SMH....Then you have almost every team in the NBA shooting 1500 threes a game is just ridiculous! What happened to running plays? Getting shots in the paint? I still watch the games but not with the same love I had..It’s not the same...🙁
Let's not forget, "they were old"... more like frustrated.
Anyway there are no excuses when you are the defending champs.
And their core was all under 30. They can miss me with that trash excuse.
The way he bullied Pippen physically,
Dennis Rodman was definitley a BAD BOY as a Piston.
And this was before the tattoos and piercings..
Got to give Rodman credit,
one of the best, if not, the #1 defender in NBA history.
No one played better defense on MJ than this guy.
He was a freak of nature, for sure.
Am I wrong or did the Pistons not really go after Cartwright? Were they afraid of him?
4.21 nice box out ref
I’m seeing alot of dudes crying about the Pistons yet probably half of you complain the league is too soft now.
Christian Stokes I’m not a Pistons fan and you sound like your crying.
Christian Stokes You act like the Pistons were the only team in NBA history to have dirty players. John Stockton was known as a dirty player. Kobe Bryant talked about dirty tricks he would do during rebounding. James Posey would slap your calf when you went up for a dunk. You really are crying over 1 team.
Christian Stokes You’re cussing up a storm, writing paragraphs. The only triggered one here is obviously you lol.
Christian Stokes Watch the 1984 NBA finals, every team played like Detroit to an extent. They played within the rules of the time.
chitownkidd33 - Exactly. These dudes talk out of both sides of their mouths.
for those days that kind of fouls is just a regular foul now it's ejection plus fine and a game suspension
That wasn't regular. Just regular for the pistons
2nd Half Pls...Thx.
I hope the young millenials are watching these old highlights on TH-cam👍, when the NBA was really good.
People talking shit about this Pistons while complaining how soft the league is now. Wtf? Makes no sense.
There’s a world of difference between being physical and being cheap/outright life- and health endangering. Though we should all in a way be thankful Bill Laimbeer had a succesful sports career, god knows what he had done else.
@@Jeneric81 soft.
i want to have another laimbeer for LeBron
Back when basketball was a man’s sport.....
This is why LBJ can't be compared to MJ no way he would be able to play in this type of league....
Laimbeer should have been just ejected from the game. Period.
Not for a hard foul in 91. Come'on man.
Damn, I'm peepin Marv Albert's watch game. So blingy I need some sunglasses 😎
This game and the walk by the pistons showed the world how they won their back to back tittles (DIRTY Play) and the tarnished ''Oh Isiah''choir boy image. Isiah now is trying to Justify the walk off with same damn sneaky smile. If it wasn't for the LAST DANCE Pistons would still be a after thought🙄
Maybe it's just me, but the Pistons cheap shots in this series seemed to be more blatant and without a lot of control. Like more for the cameras. In years past, their cheap shots were more subtle and calculated.
I can why Rodman had to apologize to Pippen before he joined the Bulls.
Rodman was so good. Unbelievable
Pistons became champions with this gameplay and the disgrace of the spirit of the sport too
The Pistons' first playoff series loss since the 1988 NBA Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers. Also, their first playoff series loss to an Eastern Conference opponent since the 1987 NBA Eastern Conference Finals against the Boston Celtics.
When I was a kid I was at this game I remember the crowd chanting bullshit lol it was so cool just being there
What rules in the NBA back then? Pippen push by Rodman all the way to the parking lot, no T?
Lebron would cry if he see this. No more pretending, flopping arround because this is REAL BATTLE IN NBA HISTORY.
When Scottie didn’t react to that foul it was over for the Pistons.
Nowadays (2020) NBA Games are so damn sissy!!
Nobody knows they would be teammates only 4 years later
Not just Rodman but James Edwards #53 and John Salley #22. The 3 of them teammed with the 95-96 bulls offering their defensive insight with the bulls offensive insight.
Paxson and Laimbeer were teammates for one year at Notre Dame I believe
bullyball can only go so far when you're losing...
The pistons were some sore losers
Laimbeer (Lame- Beer) is too lame, hated this guy until now
The NBA league rules definitley changed!
So soft,
so cupcake.......
This is why I have been watching the NHL, for the last 5 years.
How did Pippen and Rodman coexist on the same team?
Pistons were lost and hammered so bad by the bulls in 91. It was over for them.