I was 11 years old and remember watching the game with my dad. I still remember him turning to me as they were walking off the court and telling me "One thing you never want to be remembered as is a poor sport." I miss spending time like that with him.
John Salley, Joe Dumars and Vinny Johnson were the only Pistons that stayed behind and congratulated the Bulls after the game ended. First class professionals. Respect.
Salley and Dumars were the only class acts Detroit had. From what I read the gesture not to shake hands started with Laimbeer, who was the biggest jerk in the game then. Still is
@Ben DC4L funny Pistons we're a legendary Team no foul getting beat by THEM. Also young Jordan evolved past his first years as a dunker and became better so...
Jordan said it best when asked how he felt about the pistons walking off, YOU GET YOUR ASS KICKED YOU CAN LEAVE THE COURT ANY WAY YOU WANT. Very true because to jordan it was a accomplishment they beat them so bad they didn't even want to congratulate the bulls, good shit.
Yeah but it also took him 3 tries to FINALLY beat the Pistons. So lets not forget them ass whoopins the Bulls endured prior to 1991. Yes they swept the Pistons. The Bulls were a better team. But lets not have a short memory...
Elrique Suave and wat was the point of bringing that up like u shoulda jus said that in the 89-90 playoff highlights there was no point in coming here and ruining the happy moment
yes it was good shit LOL4LIFE every single bull didn't like it and it was just good........ it was the the most excellent way to end the Chicago BULLSHITs hopes and dreams of beating us bad ass mother fuckers of Detroit City
Eh...Jordan getting past Detroit was one of the things that made him. I wouldn't entirely credit Detroit with that, but Jordan. They put up a fight and helped him get stronger, but he chose to learn and play smarter than before. So I would give them some credit but not sole credit.
There was a rookie on the Pistons that knew Jordan but followed suit with the ones that left early. Jordan handed his ass to him at one of his camps in North Carolina. That would've been great to see.
People seem to forget that Jordan was being labeled as "the guy who can't win the big one" --- this series turned it all around for him and began the dynastic legacy
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C I was speaking how the Pistons were acting liking sore sports when they were getting swept in the 1991 Eastern Conference Finals by a team that they tormented as Mark Aguirre Bill Laimbeer and isiah thomas walked past them more important it costs Isiash Thomas not being on the 1992 Olympic Dream Team in my opinion Dominique Wilkins should joined the dream team
MJ had zero weaknesses on offense. Was elite at every level: off ball, on ball, close, mid range and threes (though he didn't shoot a lot because he was more efficient mid and close)
Michael Jordan’s 50% shooting for his Bull’s career when looked at through shots tracked starting the 95-96 season….which at the time was his 10th full year…show a much different narrative than he was good. It shows he was and remains the most lethal scorer as a shooter the league has EVER known, including the 3point pretenders shooting the ball today, because MJ did it all against the best defenders in the history of the league. Curry doesn’t have that night in and night out. Jordan attempted 1,850 FG and made 916, 111 of them being 3 pointers. That means he made 805 shots from 2 point range. At first glance you probably are yawning. Ok, in 96-97 his FGA was 1,892 and he made 920, again 111 were 3 point makes. So the very next year he made 809 from 2 point range. Against very good defenders. He didn’t take days off. Hardly ever. Here’s the most astounding thing. The man closest to MJ in FG’s Made and Attempted that year was Glenn Robinson’s totals with FGA at 1,410 and 627 made, 90 of them 3 pointers….so 537 2-pointers. Think about that for a minute. Big Dog’s makes weren’t even close to MJ’s, but damn near EPIC when you think about it. We’ve never seen a shooter like Michael Jeffery Jordan.
The turning point for the Bulls. I was only 9 years old and so glad I got to see the Bulls destroy the Pistons and go on to win 6 titles in 8 seasons. Thanks for the memories.
Didnt look to join the Pistons nor did he look to recruit other superstars to join him, Instead MJ stuck with it until he was finally able to beat the Pistons the team that stood in his way of getting a championship. Definition of a true competitor!!!
Damien Butler Exactly, that’s why I have no respect for KD or Lebron. Both men are cowards who formed Super Teams because they couldn’t get past their rivals smh.
Out of all of the showdowns, this one was the most memorable and iconic, by way of two defining moments; the sweep, and the walk off! It was the bitter end of one superstar, and the undeniable catapult of another. 🏀
LOVE THIS! LOVE that the Pistons walked out the way that they did....shows what kind of organization they had, and the kind that the Bulls had! Every head must bow to greatness, even Isiah's Pistons!
HATS OFF TO THOSE PISTONS! When I was younger, I was over joyed that the BULLS had finally beat the PISTONS! Yet today I need to recognize what those BAD BOYS accomplished. They were a great team, played a hard brand of basketball. They fought you every game , I think winning 2 championships wore them out! They had played a lot of games. The BULLS were young & energetic and could win 3 championships in a row. The PISTONS made the city of Detroit proud.
Clearly the most classless example of sportsmanship in the annuls of professional sports. This was an absolute disgrace, totally justifying Isiah's exclusion from the Dream Team.
@@donnelladams340 no, what REALLY cost Isiah his Dream Team spot was masterminding Jordan's freeze-out in the All-Star Game in an act of Rookie Hazing. This was over Jordan stealing the spotlight from Isiah in his own hometown.
@@dionr1168 Still he tried Jordan and suffered the consequences. Who's going to pick isiah over mj in 1992 NOBODY. Isiah had pissed off magic, barkley hated him, scottie hates him to this day and Karl malone gave him 30 stiches and I enjoyed that way to go Karl. Chicago loved Jordan and it pissed Isiah off, this dude from North Carolina turned most of Chicago against zeek man that had to hurt.
Pistons were like an unstoppable villain group slaying other teams like Boston and lakers then bulls rise against them and beat the piston and then peace was restored l
fieryrocket3555;sportsmanship was thrown OUT of the window the minute David Stern MODIFIED all the games ' defensive rules to ensure Jordan could defeat Detroit!!
Damn that dude literally stuck his hand out to intentionally trip Jordan. These kids don't know shit about what the Bulls had to go through, And they got the NERVE to compare them to today's corny ass teams.
if the game is so corny stop watching i dislike old people like u always living in the past get over it. Everything changes over time but u old heads seem to never understand it
***** I'm not, I'm watching THIS game. That's why i'm here! Why are you here, if you so-call love the new NBA so much? lol! And every change isn't a good change. That's something you ignorant youngsters seem to never understand.
*smirky grin* "You get your ass kicked that bad I don't blame you for leaving the court early. I took it as a compliment that we beat those guys so bad, they didn't even wanna stay around to shake our hand." -GOAT
The mid 80s to mid 90s were truly the Golden age for the NBA. Not just because my Bulls won 6 championships. But the competition of the NBA was at an all time high with unmatched agression. The Bulls, Pistons, Celtics, Lakers, 76ers, the Jazz, Trail Blazers, Pacers , Knicks, Rockets, Suns, and the Pacers were the teams to beat in those days. And none of these teams liked each other.
@@olegunnarsolskjaer337 You're right. Sonics did reach a final. Bulls beating the Cavs elevated the Bulls into contention with Detroit. The Hawks played everyone tough but could never get by the second round of the playoffs. The Hornets by 94-95 were a team on the rise. But they were tough too. No doubt!
Thomas is a great example of how being super talented and ruthless is not enough to be considered truly great. He did not know how to take a loss, and his long term behaviour and being a ringleader of questionable tactics (Jordan rules) over a period of years resulted in him missing the dream team. Jordan was ultra competitive but still managed a lot of class. Some may not like him as an individual but as a sports man he had so much more class (and talent) than Thomas. Great credit to that Bulls team that they just got better and better after their first two losses to the Pistons and went on to dominate and create a dynasty with a team that never had that label before then.
Isiah made some mistakes, but he was not classless. He takes too much heat. People selectively forgive faults. Barkley was forgiven for spitting on a baby. Lebron, although hated for other reasons, also walked off the court early. Jordan show low class by insulting the City of Detroit, before they swept them. Wrong or right, Isiah felt that he was standing up for the city, which has taken a lot of unfair criticism. The Jordan Rules were about forcing Jordan to one side of the court, where there were more defenders. They also tried to force him to use his left, which he hated. The Knicks treated Jordan worse than the Pistons. To say Jordan had so much more class than Isiah is a bit much. Even if Isiah doesn't walk off early, I bet Jordan would have found another reason to keep him off the Dream Team.
Do you even know why the Pistons left the court in the first place? Because Jordan dissed them before Game 4, calling the Pistons “undeserving champions” and “bad for basketball.” That’s why they left the court. That POS didn’t give them the respect they deserved.
I was a diehard Jordan/Bulls fan back in the day. I was 13 and finishing up 8th grade at this time. Pretty sure this was a week game and tipped off midday as I recall badly wanting to watch the Bulls finish off the hated Pistons but was only able to catch the very end of the game when I got home from school.
@Robert Phillips They would have got someone else. The 90's were stacked with talent. And Rodman wasn't a scorer. So I'm positive MJ would have won without him, specifically.
@@felixmartinez9673 And? They could have got plenty of players like that in the 90's who could have also contributed in scoring. So they would have been better than Rodman. The Bulls role players were not as great as you think as individual players. They just knew their roles as a team.
What I like about mj and bulls dynasty is nobody had the chance to dethrone their success. They went out on a high note. Many of successful runs got dethroned but not bulls which put them in more legendary status
Thats true and that's what makes MJ's aura so legendary. I will say if the Bulls didn't break up prematurely and MJ never retired then they could of won 1-2 more and or had lost 1-2 finals. The Rockets were a great team when they win back to back titles. A Bulls vs LA would of been great and possibly a passing of the torch moment but MJ went out on top.
They used to send the starters/stars off to the locker room when the final game was out of reach, because the fans always rushed the floor after the game. They did it for their safety. Kevin McHale stopped to congratulate Isaiah on his way out and tell them to go out and beat L.A. Sadly, the Pistons did not do that for the Bulls, but actually led a chant for the Lakers with the Pistons crowd.
oh shut up stupid. why punish the bulls for something that the Celtics did?? Jordan congratulated the pistons after they beat them in the playoffs in 88, 89, and 90. Isiah Thomas has no class. he was jealous of Jordan's fame. that's all.
Jonathan Hill Yes, it does make sense. If you watch the end of the 1984 Finals in Boston, the fans storm the court and Kareem had to throw elbows and push his way through the crowd to get off the floor. Sending the starters off was common practice thereafter. In the case of the Celtics and the Pistons, the Celtics bench at the Silverdome was all the way across the far end of the court from the tunnel to the locker rooms. So they would have potentially had to wade through the sea of fans all the way across the full length of the court to get there. Especially problematic for Bird who was loathed in Detroit and likely to take a few shots from fans.If you watch the video at the end of that game (which is on TH-cam) Pistons fans were already coming on the court and hugging players, Chuck Daly was waving fans off the court, and security guards and police came over to escort the Celtics starters off the court. They weren't doing it just to be jerks.
The way Jordan and Pippen move with the ball was so smooth..... they take such long strides that it looks like they're moving slow even though they're actually moving at 100 miles an hour.
When the NBA was played for real men not like today's NBA with rules that have made the league the weakest and softest era of basketball this and other thousand reasons make AIR JORDAN THE GOAT
If you watch the 30 for 30 bad boys documentary jordan say's ," you cant hold a grudge for the rest of your life i dont think we could have won 6 titles without getting over the hump in detroit".
And because of that classless act, Thomas paid the ultimate price, him being excluded from the Dream Team. Karma can really bite you in the ass, right Zeke?
Can’t remember in all my yrs of watching pro basketball enjoying watching a team get shown the door more than watching the Bulls mop the floor with the bad boys
kick derel More like defiant champions. True Bad Boys to the end. They weren't going to give Chicago the satisfaction of congratulating them in their building. It's symbolic of how much the title really meant to every team in the league back then. Way too much sissy stuff these days.
A REAL champ faces the person that beat him. They let the Bulls get the best of them. The Bulls were better and there is no shame in that. I don't see any class in taking the coward way out but hey. Its your opinion✌️
kick derel Cowards? They didn't win only because the NBA changed the way the game was played, then demanded preferential treatment by officials, like the Bulls. Jordan is the greatest player to ever play, but he beat Detroit once, and cried like a little girl with a skinned knee the whole time. His gambling debts also got his dad killed. Who's the coward?
kick derel "Bad boys"? Lol!! Give me a break! They walked off like the bitches they are. They got their eyes beat in and couldn't even look their opponent in the face and shake a hand. Yes cowards, bitches, true losers. If they would have had a little more character perhaps they could have won more than 2 titles. Least of any team during their era Celtics 3 Lakers 5 Bulls 6. I realize how hard it is to win even one. That's why it's so frustrating to see a bunch of grown men who are supposed to be professionals pull such a childish stunt.
And people literally got mad at the 🐐 because he didn’t want to play on the same team with IT hell they years they beat the bulls it wasn’t a problem with shaking hands but since you got destroyed in a sweep now you can’t shake hands poor sportsmanship mj did right to get him kicked off the dream team you wanna be petty well my pettiness is going to hurt 40 years later boy
I hated jordan and the bulls as a pistons fan in this era, I truly have the upmost respect for jordan and what he has accomplished. 31 years later, I cant stop watching the GOAT
I love the older style of play, where everything was congested in the middle, It was more pleasing to watch, cause of the tight passes,and contested jumpers.
The 4th talks about the 91' conference finals as well, when the Bad Boys were just "straight up bitches" for walking off the court before the game ended.
Charles Taylor but I'm was never a Chicago Bulls fan but I'm not delusional to think that lebron James could've beaten Jordan and the Chicago Bulls. The Miami heat couldn't have beaten the Chicago Bulls on their best day.
As a Bulls fan, I actually appreciate the Detroit fans. All throughout that game I didn't hear them cheer at the dirty plays from the Pistons. Then they cheered even though they lost.
For all the old heads who watched this series back in 1991 what was the energy was most people going for Jordan hoping that he would break through was the whole country asking 91 baby was still inside the womb when this was going on
I always thought the Bulls teams with Horace Grant and Paxton, were better than the later teams with Rodman and Kerr. Their records weren't quite as good, but they had better depth and balance.
No sir, for starters, Kerr was a better shooter than Paxson, Rodman was a better rebounder than Grant. The Bulls of the 2nd string of titles also had better bench. I saw both and the dominance of the 95-98 group was unreal.
There was no difference between Pax and Kerr , they both got every game winner they took, Rodman and Grant were both pretty evenly good on the team id say as far as Bulls team basketball , they just had six unreal teams anyway
Thirty-three years and running, Isiah is still trying to justify the walkout. While for the record, Bill Laimbeer publicly acknowledged he’s the instigator. Chuck Daly is apparently not involved, rewarding him as the coach of the original Dream Team. Five seasons later, the Bulls are trying to acquire some “Bad Boys’ elements” against the up-and-coming Orlando Magic. They got Rodman, Salley, and Edwards to reinforce their frontline opposite Shaq and ex-Bull Horace Grant.
Rodman didn't start winning rebound titles till 92, the year after and kept going till 98. Dumars was an all-star in 1997!!! The Pistons were not "too old" to compete, they were merely demoralized. That hug with Thomas and McCluskey says it all - they knew their time was up. The Pistons are the Larry Holmes of NBA. Between Ali and Tyson, only Celtics/Lakers and then Bulls.
@@toddjohnson271 Detroit certainly should celebrate the two titles, but they were also beat by LA, Boston, and Chicago. Tough trajectory for history annals.
@@chrisdell5679 yeah...and they all lost to us multiple times. Guess I'm missing the point. Are the others lauded more? Yes, media concentrates on those markets more. Their history is largely the same in that era.
@@toddjohnson271 You're definitely missing the point. Great champions, not at legendary levels. It's been said to death why and how Detroit beat Chicago multiple times. Boston is a different story. When all four clubs played their best basketball Detroit was by far the weakest.
@@chrisdell5679 A Bird steal and horrific foul call away from possibly two more chips. Were the Celtics done in 87 ,88, 89? Yes, I'm a homer but Detroit is right in there. Just didn't have one publicized marquee player.
That maybe, but they left with 7.9 seconds remaining on the time clock. For me, even though they won the 89, 90 championship, in this case, they were just plain losers. LOSERS!!!!. At least they could have shook hands with the Chicago Bulls. What the heck!!!
The turning point for the Bulls. Finally to get over the hurdle that were the Pistons who just owned the Bulls. I remember the Bulls losing to the Pistons in 7 games the season before which was the first season I started watching basketball (being only in 2nd grade). I was jumping up and down on the couch in the final seconds in delight watching the Pistons get swept. What a run this was over much of this decade. 6 titles in 8 seasons. Summer break would start and the Bulls were usually in the finals. What a way to start the break!
I hated the Pistons. They were dirty!!! They couldn't stop Jordan, so they (Pistons) had to resort to tackling the man & knocking him out of the air. The Pistons were punks....I'm glad they were swept. To hell with them
It was the 80s. Every team back then was dirty and Jordan didn’t even think the Pistons were the dirtiest team. Both Jordan and Magic Johnson agreed that the dirtiest team in the league during that time was the Celtics, with the 76ers in a close second. Jordan also called the Pistons “undeserving champions” and that they were “bad for basketball”. To blame them for walking off the court after Jordan said that is demonic and evil. Is it any wonder they walked off the court?
The greats of the game Jordan, Kobe, LeBron etc. Each demonstrate high character for the love of the game and it's these elite player's that make the game what it is today.
BOY did i absolutely HATE Dennis Rodman, i wouldnt of helped him if he was drowning. I couldn't beileive it when the BULLS had him fall into their lap in 95. He was exactly what they need. They had a very weak rebounding and defense at the 4 & the 5 spots. I changed my mind when he came to the BULLS.
From that point Isiah flashing 2 fingers for rings to show off the bulls, They havent nothing yet. BUT it was the start of bulls dominating the early 90s
So people with your upbringing obviously like to minimize certain people's accomplishments if you go back in time genius they had already accomplished something that the Bulls had not genius
This series is one of the reason why MJ is the GOAT: 29.8 Points, 5.3 rebounds and 7 assists on .535% FG against this kind of defense. But most importantly IMO, he didn't dominate the ball, the quickness of his executions keep the rhythm of the team flowing at all times. That's what Lebron has never been able to do, he can have those numbers but he must dominate the ball, thus leaving his teammates less space to work with.
I was 11 years old and remember watching the game with my dad. I still remember him turning to me as they were walking off the court and telling me "One thing you never want to be remembered as is a poor sport." I miss spending time like that with him.
That’s a nice memory to have mate 🙂 Thanks for sharing 💯❤️🙌🏻
I was also eleven
your father is right! 😄
I'm laughing cause I was 11 years old born and raised in Michigan and I hated the pistons with a passion. Still do LoL 🤣😭
It is when rivalarys matter
John Salley, Joe Dumars and Vinny Johnson were the only Pistons that stayed behind and congratulated the Bulls after the game ended. First class professionals. Respect.
Joe Dumars is the Detroit guard that should have been on the dream team that only had one true point guard.
Joe Dumars has respect with the Bulls who defeated them, and yes he should've been a member of the Dream Team.
isiah as leader but being unsportsman cost him not only the dream team roster but the league respect.
Chuck among those
@@karagdagangimpormasyon4736 Joe Dumars was on dream team 2 roster during the 1996 Summer Olympics held in Atlanta Georgia
Love the fact that John Salley stayed to shake hands and congratulate. Shows true sportsmanship.
Rumor has it that Arsenio Hall was acting as body double
Salley and Dumars were the only class acts Detroit had. From what I read the gesture not to shake hands started with Laimbeer, who was the biggest jerk in the game then. Still is
Lebron did the same thing a bunch of time as well.Ran off the court and left his entire team behind to face the loss.
"we beat them so bad that they had to leave the game"
Michael Jordan
Aktsar Abdikar Jordan beat them once pistons made Jordan cry when he was losing to them
@@sankeerthkoshy8439 Funny though Zeke still salty up to this day. Jordan gave him a nightmare he will never forget.
Funny I remember MJ winning championships not the Pistons...
@Ben DC4L funny Pistons we're a legendary Team no foul getting beat by THEM. Also young Jordan evolved past his first years as a dunker and became better so...
LOL... The Pistons beat MJ's so much that it aint funny.
Jordan said it best when asked how he felt about the pistons walking off, YOU GET YOUR ASS KICKED YOU CAN LEAVE THE COURT ANY WAY YOU WANT. Very true because to jordan it was a accomplishment they beat them so bad they didn't even want to congratulate the bulls, good shit.
Yeah but it also took him 3 tries to FINALLY beat the Pistons. So lets not forget them ass whoopins the Bulls endured prior to 1991. Yes they swept the Pistons. The Bulls were a better team. But lets not have a short memory...
Elrique Suave and wat was the point of bringing that up like u shoulda jus said that in the 89-90 playoff highlights there was no point in coming here and ruining the happy moment
yes it was good shit LOL4LIFE every single bull didn't like it and it was just good........ it was the the most excellent way to end the Chicago BULLSHITs hopes and dreams of beating us bad ass mother fuckers of Detroit City
Yeah, let's not forget who won 3 straight championships after that year.
You're joking, right? Jordan cried to the media about them walking off the court multiple times.
Getting past the Pistons made Michael Jordan
As much as I hate Detroit and hate giving them any credit you are 100% right.
Michael Jordan admitted that in a interview, so yeah.
Eh...Jordan getting past Detroit was one of the things that made him. I wouldn't entirely credit Detroit with that, but Jordan. They put up a fight and helped him get stronger, but he chose to learn and play smarter than before. So I would give them some credit but not sole credit.
When he came in they the coach the team the bench and the MJ rule so maybe he did need a good coach a peace or two but as we saw it didn't take long
It made the Bulls. Jordan was already made
LOVED how they HUMILIATED The Pistons in their OWN home. 115 - 94
This never gets old.
4-0 in games😅
@@fasttrade2386 and moronic Isiah Thomas' fans were justifying his antics and actions as if they were good when in reality it is really stupid
This is after Detroit humiliated the bulls for a few years. What comes around goes around
Yes, the Pistons finally got old enough for Jordan to beat
At 7:40 Thomas saying "we got two, we got two" He's so proud of his 2 championship while Jordan was just getting started and then ending up with 6 lol
At least Isiah Thomas never got suspended for gambling. Jordan did.
@@dionr1168 what does this has to do with what happens on the court U JUST BUTTHURT😂😂😂😂
@@SCsc864 And at least Isiah Thomas isn't enabling inner city violence by charging $200 a pair for his signature shoes.
@@dionr1168 once again what does this have to do with on the court Sir😂😂😂😂😂JUST STOP WITH THE HATE😎😎😎😎😎😎
Terrance Murray facts
John Salley was the only one who showed any class. Good for him.
Actually Joe Dumars did too. You just didn't see it in this clip. Dumars was and is a class act and him and Jordan are friends.
Yes, you're both right.
So did Joe Dumars.
Jimmy Hollywood Also Scott Hastings shook hands and showed some class as well. He was one of the scrubs on the Pistons but nonetheless he was classy.
There was a rookie on the Pistons that knew Jordan but followed suit with the ones that left early. Jordan handed his ass to him at one of his camps in North Carolina. That would've been great to see.
The end of the bad boy pistons and the beginning of the Chicago bulls dynasty
Yup
People seem to forget that Jordan was being labeled as "the guy who can't win the big one" --- this series turned it all around for him and began the dynastic legacy
Notice how John Salley was the only one that stayed and congratulated the Bulls...and he ended up with another ring on the 96 Bulls lol
Joe Dumars did too and a few others. You just dont see it. Isaiah was just green with envy of Mike.
John Salley and MJ are frat brothers. That's the real reason he congratulated MJ after the game.
red right hand
@@Nal320 joe dumars Vinny Johnson also shook Michael Jordan hand in 1991
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C I was speaking how the Pistons were acting liking sore sports when they were getting swept in the 1991 Eastern Conference Finals by a team that they tormented as Mark Aguirre Bill Laimbeer and isiah thomas walked past them more important it costs Isiash Thomas not being on the 1992 Olympic Dream Team in my opinion Dominique Wilkins should joined the dream team
MJ had zero weaknesses on offense. Was elite at every level: off ball, on ball, close, mid range and threes (though he didn't shoot a lot because he was more efficient mid and close)
Michael Jordan’s 50% shooting for his Bull’s career when looked at through shots tracked starting the 95-96 season….which at the time was his 10th full year…show a much different narrative than he was good.
It shows he was and remains the most lethal scorer as a shooter the league has EVER known, including the 3point pretenders shooting the ball today, because MJ did it all against the best defenders in the history of the league. Curry doesn’t have that night in and night out.
Jordan attempted 1,850 FG and made 916, 111 of them being 3 pointers. That means he made 805 shots from 2 point range.
At first glance you probably are yawning.
Ok, in 96-97 his FGA was 1,892 and he made 920, again 111 were 3 point makes. So the very next year he made 809 from 2 point range. Against very good defenders.
He didn’t take days off. Hardly ever.
Here’s the most astounding thing. The man closest to MJ in FG’s Made and Attempted that year was Glenn Robinson’s totals with FGA at 1,410 and 627 made, 90 of them 3 pointers….so 537 2-pointers.
Think about that for a minute. Big Dog’s makes weren’t even close to MJ’s, but damn near EPIC when you think about it.
We’ve never seen a shooter like Michael Jeffery Jordan.
@5stardetailingllc471 Not to mention his defense, which doesn't get a lot of mentioning!
Thomas. Classless as ever.
buppie2000 Isiah Thomas has more class in his pinky than your whole family tree has.
***** Thomas is a sore loser
***** He is a sore loser and has ruined everything he has touched since he retired from playing.
buppie2000 I agree
buppie2000 i agree i remember when he coached the knicks such an asshole but a great player
Your opponent has left the match.
The turning point for the Bulls. I was only 9 years old and so glad I got to see the Bulls destroy the Pistons and go on to win 6 titles in 8 seasons. Thanks for the memories.
Ryan Donato I was 9 turning 10, yeah great memories...
I was 12.....I remember watching the bulls vs lakers at my dads house
Bulls didn’t stomp the pistons.... age did.
@@maxwellh.4471 excuses
Tristian Cargle it’s not excuses, the pistons were getting old. Why do you think the bulls didn’t beat the pistons till 91? AGE!
Didnt look to join the Pistons nor did he look to recruit other superstars to join him, Instead MJ stuck with it until he was finally able to beat the Pistons the team that stood in his way of getting a championship. Definition of a true competitor!!!
That's what dont understand. Tgey only see he lost three times against them
Damien Butler Exactly, that’s why I have no respect for KD or Lebron. Both men are cowards who formed Super Teams because they couldn’t get past their rivals smh.
Out of all of the showdowns, this one was the most memorable and iconic, by way of two defining moments; the sweep, and the walk off! It was the bitter end of one superstar, and the undeniable catapult of another. 🏀
LOVE THIS! LOVE that the Pistons walked out the way that they did....shows what kind of organization they had, and the kind that the Bulls had! Every head must bow to greatness, even Isiah's Pistons!
Witj all due respect. The bulls had the greatest player of all time, and yet it took them 3 tries to FINALLY beat an aged Pistons team
HATS OFF TO THOSE PISTONS!
When I was younger, I was over joyed that the BULLS had
finally beat the PISTONS! Yet today I need to recognize
what those BAD BOYS accomplished. They were a great team,
played a hard brand of basketball. They fought you every game , I think
winning 2 championships wore them out! They had played a lot of games.
The BULLS were young & energetic and could win 3 championships in a row. The
PISTONS made the city of Detroit proud.
@@pdgutierrez8784 Detroit
Clearly the most classless example of sportsmanship in the annuls of professional sports. This was an absolute disgrace, totally justifying Isiah's exclusion from the Dream Team.
Funny that when the Celtics did the same thing in 1988 ECF nobody said anything...
Yeah but the game was over when the Celtics did it not when there was still time left in the game
***** exactly
***** I'm pretty sure Kevin McHale went up to Isiah and shook hands with him.
JCR1992 And Joe Dumars stayed behind to congratulate the Bulls. Can't see it in this clip but MJ acknowledged it.
That move to cost Isiah Thomas a spot of the Dream Team. At least one of them.
And his reputation as a punk has followed him forever.
Isiah was always seen as a crybaby and sore loser --- he should been kept out of the Hall of Fame because of it
Notice how Isiah puts his head down when walking past Mike.
fuck mike
Wis Dom that was cheesy
@@pettywap1183 you love MJ he is the GOAT!
Petty Wap fuck u
Petty Wap your mother
Disrespectful even up to today. Everyone remember this, even people who were young at the time.
Why would I want to shake hands with someone who was paying gambling money to drug dealers?
@@dionr1168 Well that is what costs isiah his spot on the dream team
@@donnelladams340 no, what REALLY cost Isiah his Dream Team spot was masterminding Jordan's freeze-out in the All-Star Game in an act of Rookie Hazing. This was over Jordan stealing the spotlight from Isiah in his own hometown.
@@dionr1168 Still he tried Jordan and suffered the consequences. Who's going to pick isiah over mj in 1992 NOBODY. Isiah had pissed off magic, barkley hated him, scottie hates him to this day and Karl malone gave him 30 stiches and I enjoyed that way to go Karl. Chicago loved Jordan and it pissed Isiah off, this dude from North Carolina turned most of Chicago against zeek man that had to hurt.
@@donnelladams340 They could've picked him over Laettner though.
"There's Michael Jordan and then there is the rest of us."
-Magic Johnson
Greatest
Lol. Magic is so nice. Don’t think for one second Magic Johnson would just lay down to Mike. Magic is very classy
Jay Thompson definitely didn’t lay down, Mike was just too hungry..
Pistons were like an unstoppable villain group slaying other teams like Boston and lakers then bulls rise against them and beat the piston and then peace was restored l
This is a great example of Michael Jordan's growth mindset.
Beat down twice, but third time was the charm and with experience!
fieryrocket3555;sportsmanship was thrown OUT of the window the minute David Stern MODIFIED all the games ' defensive rules to ensure Jordan could defeat Detroit!!
Damn that dude literally stuck his hand out to intentionally trip Jordan. These kids don't know shit about what the Bulls had to go through, And they got the NERVE to compare them to today's corny ass teams.
Word. The Pistons would get soooooo much hate from the fans and the media if they tripped Curry like that.
+Riley Freeman Imagine the hate from the fans if a team would have walked out like that today.
if the game is so corny stop watching i dislike old people like u always living in the past get over it. Everything changes over time but u old heads seem to never understand it
***** I'm not, I'm watching THIS game. That's why i'm here! Why are you here, if you so-call love the new NBA so much? lol! And every change isn't a good change. That's something you ignorant youngsters seem to never understand.
Wis Dom hahaha tell em lol
*smirky grin*
"You get your ass kicked that bad I don't blame you for leaving the court early. I took it as a compliment that we beat those guys so bad, they didn't even wanna stay around to shake our hand." -GOAT
Jordan called the Pistons “undeserving champions” and said that they were “bad for basketball.” That’s why they left the court.
Jordan was a thug.
@@alexjones3511 Jordan didn't say that. I've researched it. There's no video nor audio of him saying that
The mid 80s to mid 90s were truly the Golden age for the NBA. Not just because my Bulls won 6 championships. But the competition of the NBA was at an all time high with unmatched agression. The Bulls, Pistons, Celtics, Lakers, 76ers, the Jazz, Trail Blazers, Pacers , Knicks, Rockets, Suns, and the Pacers were the teams to beat in those days. And none of these teams liked each other.
Sonics, Hawks, Cavs, and Hornets were tough outs as well
You said pacers twice
@@scottdouglaswashburn7769 Yes I did. It's a miss type. It happens 🤷
@@olegunnarsolskjaer337 You're right. Sonics did reach a final. Bulls beating the Cavs elevated the Bulls into contention with Detroit. The Hawks played everyone tough but could never get by the second round of the playoffs. The Hornets by 94-95 were a team on the rise. But they were tough too. No doubt!
Thomas is a great example of how being super talented and ruthless is not enough to be considered truly great. He did not know how to take a loss, and his long term behaviour and being a ringleader of questionable tactics (Jordan rules) over a period of years resulted in him missing the dream team. Jordan was ultra competitive but still managed a lot of class. Some may not like him as an individual but as a sports man he had so much more class (and talent) than Thomas. Great credit to that Bulls team that they just got better and better after their first two losses to the Pistons and went on to dominate and create a dynasty with a team that never had that label before then.
Isiah made some mistakes, but he was not classless. He takes too much heat. People selectively forgive faults. Barkley was forgiven for spitting on a baby. Lebron, although hated for other reasons, also walked off the court early. Jordan show low class by insulting the City of Detroit, before they swept them. Wrong or right, Isiah felt that he was standing up for the city, which has taken a lot of unfair criticism. The Jordan Rules were about forcing Jordan to one side of the court, where there were more defenders. They also tried to force him to use his left, which he hated. The Knicks treated Jordan worse than the Pistons. To say Jordan had so much more class than Isiah is a bit much. Even if Isiah doesn't walk off early, I bet Jordan would have found another reason to keep him off the Dream Team.
Of course after getting Rodman it was a wrap
One other thing that led to him not being on the Dream Team: Stockton was a better player in '92 than Isiah was.
Do you even know why the Pistons left the court in the first place? Because Jordan dissed them before Game 4, calling the Pistons “undeserving champions” and “bad for basketball.” That’s why they left the court.
That POS didn’t give them the respect they deserved.
@@twhite3850 Turns out that baby was a Nazi I heard ,to be fair
4-0, sweet revenge 😂, mj just started his legacy aftr this game🤣
Isiah has his own legacy... he's the only one to beat Bird, Magic and Jordan
@Jr 07 that's ridiculous. No one? Top 3 easily. SMH
I was a diehard Jordan/Bulls fan back in the day. I was 13 and finishing up 8th grade at this time. Pretty sure this was a week game and tipped off midday as I recall badly wanting to watch the Bulls finish off the hated Pistons but was only able to catch the very end of the game when I got home from school.
I never get tired of watching Detroit lose
funny rodman was dirty and ended up playing with the bulls
and chicago fans love him
There is NO 2nd three peat without Rodman ...
@Robert Phillips They would have got someone else. The 90's were stacked with talent. And Rodman wasn't a scorer. So I'm positive MJ would have won without him, specifically.
@@Wis_Dom MJ needs the Rodman's defense and rebounding
@@felixmartinez9673 And? They could have got plenty of players like that in the 90's who could have also contributed in scoring. So they would have been better than Rodman. The Bulls role players were not as great as you think as individual players. They just knew their roles as a team.
What I like about mj and bulls dynasty is nobody had the chance to dethrone their success. They went out on a high note. Many of successful runs got dethroned but not bulls which put them in more legendary status
Thats true and that's what makes MJ's aura so legendary. I will say if the Bulls didn't break up prematurely and MJ never retired then they could of won 1-2 more and or had lost 1-2 finals. The Rockets were a great team when they win back to back titles. A Bulls vs LA would of been great and possibly a passing of the torch moment but MJ went out on top.
Salute to the Bulls long live Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen
Air Jordan and the Bulls , BEST of the BEST
People forget that the Celtics did the same thing two years earlier and they don't get heat for it. Guess it shows how much the pistons were hated
They used to send the starters/stars off to the locker room when the final game was out of reach, because the fans always rushed the floor after the game. They did it for their safety. Kevin McHale stopped to congratulate Isaiah on his way out and tell them to go out and beat L.A. Sadly, the Pistons did not do that for the Bulls, but actually led a chant for the Lakers with the Pistons crowd.
***** oh yeah that makes sense
oh shut up stupid. why punish the bulls for something that the Celtics did?? Jordan congratulated the pistons after they beat them in the playoffs in 88, 89, and 90. Isiah Thomas has no class. he was jealous of Jordan's fame. that's all.
Jonathan Hill Yes, it does make sense. If you watch the end of the 1984 Finals in Boston, the fans storm the court and Kareem had to throw elbows and push his way through the crowd to get off the floor. Sending the starters off was common practice thereafter.
In the case of the Celtics and the Pistons, the Celtics bench at the Silverdome was all the way across the far end of the court from the tunnel to the locker rooms. So they would have potentially had to wade through the sea of fans all the way across the full length of the court to get there. Especially problematic for Bird who was loathed in Detroit and likely to take a few shots from fans.If you watch the video at the end of that game (which is on TH-cam) Pistons fans were already coming on the court and hugging players, Chuck Daly was waving fans off the court, and security guards and police came over to escort the Celtics starters off the court. They weren't doing it just to be jerks.
It's called Jordan bias
Anything that makes Michael Jordan look better fans will structure their arguments
The way Jordan and Pippen move with the ball was so smooth..... they take such long strides that it looks like they're moving slow even though they're actually moving at 100 miles an hour.
When the NBA was played for real men not like today's NBA with rules that have made the league the weakest and softest era of basketball this and other thousand reasons make AIR JORDAN THE GOAT
FACTS.
Ok boomer
@@theyeatusdad ha witless kid
Kudos to John Salley for staying and congratulating the Bulls. Way to go, that's a true sportsman!
The Pistons made Jordan become a tougher better player overall.Although it took him 3 tries just to beat them he is what he is today because of them
Well said bro!!!!!!!
TheAstrius wait, what? The Browns?
If you watch the 30 for 30 bad boys documentary jordan say's ," you cant hold a grudge for the rest of your life i dont think we could have won 6 titles without getting over the hump in detroit".
Took him 4 tries Lol
Trabo45 and still got more rings than all of them...😆
Ahmad: Portland or LA?
Jordan: We’ll beat LA this year and take out Portland after that. Sound good?
And because of that classless act, Thomas paid the ultimate price, him being excluded from the Dream Team. Karma can really bite you in the ass, right Zeke?
Allan Goco ive never heard isiah complain about not being put on the dream team...... so im sure he could care less
Allan Goco "the ultimate price" Lmao he has rings, and is in the hall of fame, do you really thinks that matters that much
+Dan Tuckerr Well, think about, Dream Team = Greatest Team ever, so, Do you think isiah didnt care? hahaha, you failed...
bispower6 Ask Malone Stockton or Barkley if they'd rather win multiple rings or play on the dream team
Dan Tuckerr Boom! ;)
First thing Jordan said in post game interview was giving credit to all his supporting cast.
I was 22 years old watching this with my grandmother. What an all-time ass kicking sweep of game 4.
What great roll models for the kids watching that game
Asks MJ who they’d rather face in the finals and actually gets an answer!! Not we don’t care we just happy to be there he actually answers
“All he can do really is tackle the guy” 😂😂😂
one legacy is undone while another begins. Love sports history.
even though i was a detroit fan back then , it was awesome to see these bulls start there run of there 6 championships.
Can’t remember in all my yrs of watching pro basketball enjoying watching a team get shown the door more than watching the Bulls mop the floor with the bad boys
And they walked off like cowards
kick derel More like defiant champions. True Bad Boys to the end. They weren't going to give Chicago the satisfaction of congratulating them in their building. It's symbolic of how much the title really meant to every team in the league back then. Way too much sissy stuff these days.
A REAL champ faces the person that beat him. They let the Bulls get the best of them. The Bulls were better and there is no shame in that. I don't see any class in taking the coward way out but hey. Its your opinion✌️
kick derel I'd take it over the sissy stuff that goes on nowadays. When I grew up the NBA was a man's game, played by real men.
kick derel Cowards? They didn't win only because the NBA changed the way the game was played, then demanded preferential treatment by officials, like the Bulls. Jordan is the greatest player to ever play, but he beat Detroit once, and cried like a little girl with a skinned knee the whole time. His gambling debts also got his dad killed. Who's the coward?
kick derel "Bad boys"? Lol!! Give me a break! They walked off like the bitches they are. They got their eyes beat in and couldn't even look their opponent in the face and shake a hand. Yes cowards, bitches, true losers. If they would have had a little more character perhaps they could have won more than 2 titles. Least of any team during their era Celtics 3 Lakers 5 Bulls 6. I realize how hard it is to win even one. That's why it's so frustrating to see a bunch of grown men who are supposed to be professionals pull such a childish stunt.
God Courtside watching over jordan every game.. More then just great he was blessed..
John salley, Joe dumars and Vinnie Johnson had stayed behind on the floor to congrats to the Chicago bulls as a great sportsmanship class?
Sportsmanship is a virtue of a great athlete...
“GOES to the scoop.” Something about that call always cracks me up. Gotta love Marv.
THIS LED THE BULLS TO WIN 6 NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS AND 2 THREE-PEATS!!! JORDAN ONE OF THE GREATEST OF GREAT AND HIS TEAMMATE SCOTTIE PIPPEN AS WELL!!!👍👍
Man I know this ass whopping felt so damn good for the Bulls. They annihilated the Pistons.
And people literally got mad at the 🐐 because he didn’t want to play on the same team with IT hell they years they beat the bulls it wasn’t a problem with shaking hands but since you got destroyed in a sweep now you can’t shake hands poor sportsmanship mj did right to get him kicked off the dream team you wanna be petty well my pettiness is going to hurt 40 years later boy
"Bad boys are history" - such a sweet sound.
Yeah you really are history!
I hated jordan and the bulls as a pistons fan in this era, I truly have the upmost respect for jordan and what he has accomplished. 31 years later, I cant stop watching the GOAT
John Sally looking for that contract lol
John Sally, what a smart motha!
R.I.P Bad Boys Pistons 1987-1991 lol
Who's here from the Last Dance?
What a player. Mike should come back again and show everyone what time it is!
I love the older style of play, where everything was congested in the middle, It was more pleasing to watch, cause of the tight passes,and contested jumpers.
I wish all teams had the option to leave after a loss. Too much hugging and kissing at the end of playoff series today
Your post is the best on here. BTW, Lebron left early against the Pacers.
@@twhite3850 That was Game 6 in the 2009 Eastern conference finals when LeBron and the Cavs lost to Dwight Howard and the Orlando Magic
God I hated the Pistons!!! This was awesome!
“If we play Portland were gunna have to go out to Portland” had me dead, he was all about goin to the city of angels
No, L.A was gonna have to come to Chicago. It was a home field advantage thing, that's all.
That was Sweeeeeet. Basketball back in the day. Punk ass Pistons.
Damn the Legend was born right that second.
Anyone here after watching Episode 4 of the Last Dance?
The 4th was about Phill Jackson the 3rd is the episode you are talking about with Dennis Rodman
The 4th talks about the 91' conference finals as well, when the Bad Boys were just "straight up bitches" for walking off the court before the game ended.
Where can we see the Last episode? Theres a few clips on youtube but other fanmade ones that aren't the official ESPN documentary
The beginning of a dynasty.
Lebron lucky didn't play against the bad boys pistons
As a Pistons fan, even I'm not delusional enough to thunk he couldn't whoop our ass.
Charles Taylor but I'm was never a Chicago Bulls fan but I'm not delusional to think that lebron James could've beaten Jordan and the Chicago Bulls. The Miami heat couldn't have beaten the Chicago Bulls on their best day.
And I agree. The Heat aren't ear the overall talent of the Bulls. But from a individual standpoint, Lebron probably would do very well.
Fuck you bitch
***** Prime D Wade and Lebron vs Prime Jordan and Pippen. D Wade and Lebron would get spanked like a newborn baby.
As a Bulls fan, I actually appreciate the Detroit fans. All throughout that game I didn't hear them cheer at the dirty plays from the Pistons. Then they cheered even though they lost.
For all the old heads who watched this series back in 1991 what was the energy was most people going for Jordan hoping that he would break through was the whole country asking 91 baby was still inside the womb when this was going on
I always thought the Bulls teams with Horace Grant and Paxton, were better than the later teams with Rodman and Kerr. Their records weren't quite as good, but they had better depth and balance.
No sir, for starters, Kerr was a better shooter than Paxson, Rodman was a better rebounder than Grant. The Bulls of the 2nd string of titles also had better bench. I saw both and the dominance of the 95-98 group was unreal.
Grant was better on offense then rodman but I think kucoc set that later bulls team apart
There was no difference between Pax and Kerr , they both got every game winner they took, Rodman and Grant were both pretty evenly good on the team id say as far as Bulls team basketball , they just had six unreal teams anyway
After this game, how could you think Thomas would be on the Dream Team?
crazy days..use hand to pull opponent leg..so tough
Roberto S Shidd, you mean so dirty...
Thirty-three years and running, Isiah is still trying to justify the walkout.
While for the record, Bill Laimbeer publicly acknowledged he’s the instigator.
Chuck Daly is apparently not involved, rewarding him as the coach of the original Dream Team.
Five seasons later, the Bulls are trying to acquire some “Bad Boys’ elements” against the up-and-coming Orlando Magic.
They got Rodman, Salley, and Edwards to reinforce their frontline opposite Shaq and ex-Bull Horace Grant.
What a time for basketball.
The Bulls had lost 4 of 4 playoffs to them.
87,88,89,90 🤷🏻♂️
Bad boys were so iconic..
Did not play in 87
Rodman didn't start winning rebound titles till 92, the year after and kept going till 98. Dumars was an all-star in 1997!!! The Pistons were not "too old" to compete, they were merely demoralized. That hug with Thomas and McCluskey says it all - they knew their time was up.
The Pistons are the Larry Holmes of NBA. Between Ali and Tyson, only Celtics/Lakers and then Bulls.
Rings are rings.....and as a fan I loved it....we were in the hunt almost every year. We beat LA, Boston and Bulls.
@@toddjohnson271 Detroit certainly should celebrate the two titles, but they were also beat by LA, Boston, and Chicago. Tough trajectory for history annals.
@@chrisdell5679 yeah...and they all lost to us multiple times. Guess I'm missing the point. Are the others lauded more? Yes, media concentrates on those markets more. Their history is largely the same in that era.
@@toddjohnson271 You're definitely missing the point. Great champions, not at legendary levels. It's been said to death why and how Detroit beat Chicago multiple times. Boston is a different story. When all four clubs played their best basketball Detroit was by far the weakest.
@@chrisdell5679 A Bird steal and horrific foul call away from possibly two more chips. Were the Celtics done in 87 ,88, 89? Yes, I'm a homer but Detroit is right in there. Just didn't have one publicized marquee player.
I mean they were the bad boys I think that was a decent ending
+Joshua Miller lol... they got swept...
That maybe, but they left with 7.9 seconds remaining on the time clock. For me, even though they won the 89, 90 championship, in this case, they were just plain losers. LOSERS!!!!. At least they could have shook hands with the Chicago Bulls. What the heck!!!
Yeah, never thought of that way. Guess you're right Joshua lol
+Resty Mervin Ponio You would never understand fat Ass
Bob Jones Fat ass who? Lol with your slur...
The 1990-91 season and playoffs:in the conference finals, the bulls had sweep the 2-time champs Detroit Pistons in a 4-gm sweep ass-whippin'
Watching the 91 Bulls in this game is watching basketball as an art form... they definitely wanted it more, and it shows.
The turning point for the Bulls. Finally to get over the hurdle that were the Pistons who just owned the Bulls. I remember the Bulls losing to the Pistons in 7 games the season before which was the first season I started watching basketball (being only in 2nd grade). I was jumping up and down on the couch in the final seconds in delight watching the Pistons get swept. What a run this was over much of this decade. 6 titles in 8 seasons. Summer break would start and the Bulls were usually in the finals. What a way to start the break!
I just watched Bill Burr and Snoop Dogg talk about this
Once Jordan started to pass the ball and trust his teammates, that’s when he became great.
it was over
“Straight up bitches.” - Horace Grant
This was the night I was born on. Been a bulls fan since birth
I hated the Pistons. They were dirty!!! They couldn't stop Jordan, so they (Pistons) had to resort to tackling the man & knocking him out of the air. The Pistons were punks....I'm glad they were swept. To hell with them
It was the 80s. Every team back then was dirty and Jordan didn’t even think the Pistons were the dirtiest team.
Both Jordan and Magic Johnson agreed that the dirtiest team in the league during that time was the Celtics, with the 76ers in a close second.
Jordan also called the Pistons “undeserving champions” and that they were “bad for basketball”. To blame them for walking off the court after Jordan said that is demonic and evil. Is it any wonder they walked off the court?
with all the pistons celebration you would thinkd they won
3:33. Two future would-be flagrant 2s on this play.
Yup, only flagrant 1s back then, as it should’ve been.
This is the difference between passing a torch and getting it
The greats of the game Jordan, Kobe, LeBron etc. Each demonstrate high character for the love of the game and it's these elite player's that make the game what it is today.
Mike, kobe yes! leflop no loyalty james no!
BOY did i absolutely HATE Dennis Rodman, i wouldnt of helped him if he was drowning. I couldn't beileive it when the BULLS had him fall into their lap in 95. He was exactly what they need. They had a very weak rebounding and defense at the 4 & the 5 spots. I changed my mind when he came to the BULLS.
The beginning of the Bulls dynasty and the fall of the Pistons dynasty
there wasn't a pistons dynasty.
Isiah doing the two fingers sign? yes, they won twice in a row, but bulls swept them, soooo???
+Ron Davis, indeed, man...
It doesn't matter the Bulls ended up winning 6 in the next 8 years
From that point Isiah flashing 2 fingers for rings to show off the bulls, They havent nothing yet. BUT it was the start of bulls dominating the early 90s
So people with your upbringing obviously like to minimize certain people's accomplishments if you go back in time genius they had already accomplished something that the Bulls had not genius
this moment is very iconic.
This series is one of the reason why MJ is the GOAT: 29.8 Points, 5.3 rebounds and 7 assists on .535% FG against this kind of defense. But most importantly IMO, he didn't dominate the ball, the quickness of his executions keep the rhythm of the team flowing at all times. That's what Lebron has never been able to do, he can have those numbers but he must dominate the ball, thus leaving his teammates less space to work with.
If durant was in the 90's, he'll be joining the pistons or dead after the physical plays in the 90's
Kurt Cometa like Rodman did? Lol
Nah he'd joined the Bulls since they won the title
@@Soldier979 rodman got traded to the bulls for will perdue, i seriously doubt he would have signed with chicago as a free agent, big difference
@@jasogarcia1078 rodman got traded to chicago, durant signed with golden state, so rodman really didnt have a choice if he wanted to get paid.
@@eddiewilson3724 Ok...what does that have to do with anything