As someone who witnessed this entire project & recently left Manitou/BRP, you NAILED this!!!! They are still pushing this as the best new product in marine and are saying they’ll have their best year in marine ever next year. It’s been a mass exodus there & has been very sad to see. Nobody in upper management knows what they’re doing & if they did they went unheard & left. 10/10 video, and also, they’re still producing a few every day, but they all go sit in the yard that they have to keep expanding because dealers don’t want more!
I can't believe they totally gave up on Evinrude for this pile of absolute Ghost junk. Why would anyone in their right mind even think of putting a motor powerhead underwater? This has to be the worst idea in the entire history of marine propulsion or maybe in the entire history of the internal combustion engine. BRP, if you're watching, go back to work on the Evinrude outboard and bring us something that really works well. I don't care if it's an improved 2-stroke outboard or an all new 4-stroke motor - anything will be better than this foolish thing. If you won't do that, at least provide those of us still running Evinrude outboards with a reliable stream of replacement parts.
You are forgetting the top 5 positives. 1. Fishoflauge color cause it is underwater 2. No wasp nests in cowling. 3. No fuel or oil costs after 3 months underwater cause it quits running 4. Never have to worry about resale value there is none. 5. Can,t think of number 5. Notice my comma in can,t is underneath.
I have a G2 Etec 150 on my Alumacraft 195 trophy. Came from a 1981 Silvan Sea Monster 17 with a 1984 Evindure 50 hp. That boat still floats and that motor still runs. Has some new parts but still runs. I am an Evinrude die hard. What has happened to them is a travesty
I’ve got a friend that owns a dealership that sells Manitou. The company got one to him just in time for the boat show in January. It looked like a really cool idea at first because of the huge swim platform. He sold one, and won’t order another. He’s said that Manitou is trying to go to all of this futuristic looking stuff that he don’t think will sell here in Alabama. He picked up Trifecta to sell because of it.
I am so glad i still got my 87 Evinrude made by OMC, still the best motor i ever owned, clean carbs every year, fresh good fuel and no issues. That ghost submarine.. well they can stick that where the sun never shines and see if the seals hold up.
BRP Should have stuck with What Worked. I like Many other people Still own a True Outboard. I have a 90 EVINRUDE XP 200. OMC Power that still gets the job done 👍
I actually saw one of these for sale at Millers Marine, Ocala FL. It was brand new, didn't see a price , was a 150 also. Not impressed but the cowl had enough bolts to stock a hardware store
I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in the first meeting that kicked off this concept. I'm thinking those guys from Impractical Jokers were somehow involved and they told the guy with the earpiece to say....."I have an idea, why don't we make an outboard that sits under the water". And the rest is history
After watching this i did some more digging and there are a bunch of sensors and it has a actual self test that tests the sealing of the cowl and engine compartment. And the air intake is molded into the boat. With that being said these motors are not designed or manufactured to be a repower option. Its designed for a specific boats and thats it.
🤣🤣🤣 i was dying you read that!!! Seriously though, i stopped in at a local Manitou dealer recently and they said sales are abysmal on this setup. Theres 2 in the Detroit Lakes MN area and its "stupid rich guys" that have them.
BRP is GREAT! An underboard that under normal operation/design is to be submerged needs service ASAP. So... after you launch that brand new underboard into the water, the next step before starting and enjoying your day on the water, load boat back on trailer immediately and bring to dealer; rinse and repeat😆
Just discovered this channel, loving it so far, except the part about Etec's being junk, but hey I'm not going to trash someone who is in the business. So far my 2016 150 HO has been solid. If it ever comes time to re power it will be a Yamaha 175 SHO!!
Лучше возьми ямаха вф150 шо в макс, потом поменяй на нëм электронный блок управления ( или перепрограммируй) на 200 сил. Налог будешь платить за 150, а гонять будешь на 200 силах. Привет из России!
Of all my years as an outboard technician I would have never thought to put the motor under the water. Saltwater would kill this engine for sure! And 5-year 500-hour service interval? That's a long time for fuel filters, gear lube, grease fittings, zincs etc. I would have thought the G2 failure was a wakeup call. Please do a video on how to service one of these "underwater nightmares".
Does that hood prop float for when u drop it in the drink? How do you diagnose and repair with a board in the way and the engine underwater? A chipped cowel and you have a sunk engine insurance claim.
Did the engineers REALLY think that we would all be like "This is the best motor ever built"...........Jesus, they all need to be fired and not allowed to be part of ANY design jobs........EVER!!!!!
Seems simple to me. Fill the owners manual full of reasons warranty won’t cover it so all warranty claims can be denied. I am guessing the lost enough on the etec nightmare of warranties to find a way around that.
Glad to see there’s still a few people that tells it like it is and Andy is one of the best . You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken 💩 just saying 😂
But can you tell us how you really feel about it??!😂🤣 Hilarious!! Best commentary ever! You forgot that even with the twins and docking, the motor would NOT hit the dock because you can’t put it in reverse😂🤣😂!! Priceless!! One favor…. You recently did a very impressive over/under on the Gator Trax bass boat. Can you also do one on the Gator Trax GT CC model.?
Andy I am going to repower my new tritoon with 3 of these. I plan to have two on the back and one on the front ( for reverse). When I'm not reversing I can tilt it up so I can see the front engine but not the back 2 engines. If I buy the engine bumper option, I will not need any traditional bumpers which will be a cost savings. I plan to run all engines off of one 12 Volt battery with solar panels mounted below the lifting strakes on the toons.
I think we can all agree that innovation is usually a good thing. This is an answer to a problem that nobody was asking for. It seems like people who don't give a shit about boating designed this motor. Maybe you can say the motors are quieter than other outboards. Obviously the designers don't know boaters. Most boaters love the sound of their outboards. My 1986 Evinrude 15hp will live long after these shit boxes are gone!
Yeah I like quite boats and loud motorcycles but obviously some people like loud outboards. Just look at the new mercs they sound like a muscle car when you start them up.
I'm Back Andy . I'm NOT Switching for this Yellow Submarine Technology, NO WAY JOSE ! NO THANKS ! I'm Sticking with my Old School 90 Evinrude XP 200 2 Stroke on My Stratos 201 Pro. Comfort, Room & Speed. Most of All , Dependability. Starts , Runs Gets me where I want to go and back. Again, NOT Switching 👍
As a past dealer of Johnson/ Evinrude motors. I’m glad they dropped Evinrude name. I believe this will be as popular and dependable as the “Sea Drive”.
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@@juhavuorinen6305why did they not just go jet boat with this. This technology is already around and is easily done. Its the same platform but no fucking engine in the damn water.
You gotta look at the bright side 😂. If you stick a snorkel on that thing and a little foam in the boat and you can drive it back to the ramp if it sinks😂
just wait until they come out with an EV version! It will change fishing forever! The electric underboard, will shock the fish every-time you go to start up. Put on your life jacket, turn on the ignition switch, then grab your electrically insulated net and start scooping up the fish! Fill up the live-well and Win the tournament by mid-morning, be home by lunch! Watch the rest weigh-in from bed, collect the cash and prizes the next morning! Game... Set... Match... Underboard ! Only negative is... When Johnny buys them out for the EV Nitro... It probably will SHOCK inside the boat, instead of in the water... lol
Would be nice to see a video on what is going on inside. You talk about it, but never even take the cover (or whatever that thing is) off. Give us a video on how fun it would be to service one!
I for one, AM going to change, I’m taking the 99 200 opti off my Bullet, and putting a 94 200 black max with a drilled exhaust, torque master, and a bobs nosecone 😂
G - Greatest H - Heartache O - Of S - Sportsmen T - Today Evinrude was once a good product. This new outboard is a total bust and it’s sad to see what’s happening. I hate it for the consumer who buys this thing.
Our switch (and just about every other one) has a constant drain on the battery and runs it dead in less than 2 weeks. That’s without keeping an ECU powered to monitor and run the pumps.
If you find anyone who bought these motors, please get ahold of them and do a video with them. I wanna hear the reason why ANYONE would buy this catastrophe of a motor on purpose? Lol
The very first images I seen of these I thought cool but after hearing of all the problems that are just waiting to happen I'd never ever consider buying one.
I love my 1991 Evinrude XP 150 V6. I can work on it and it just runs. Sure, I smoke up the dock while the white shoe boys smirk but I dont even care. I never tow them back when they run thier batteries dead with thier 24" Subwoofers.
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I'm still impressed that you were actually able to read that bulletin with a straight face. That's like a legit stand-up comedy sketch!
As someone who witnessed this entire project & recently left Manitou/BRP, you NAILED this!!!! They are still pushing this as the best new product in marine and are saying they’ll have their best year in marine ever next year. It’s been a mass exodus there & has been very sad to see. Nobody in upper management knows what they’re doing & if they did they went unheard & left.
10/10 video, and also, they’re still producing a few every day, but they all go sit in the yard that they have to keep expanding because dealers don’t want more!
Wow!!! We would love to chat with you. Email us at speedmoneynobrakes@gmail.com please. Thanks buddy
That this has been a joke from the start more then 8 years ago.
Love my Etec, but they killed their outboard division for this? 😂
These will be in the hall of shame engineering and design files for years to come.
Oh my God, you are hilarious. After a shitty Friday, there’s nothing better than listening to you.
I can't believe they totally gave up on Evinrude for this pile of absolute Ghost junk. Why would anyone in their right mind even think of putting a motor powerhead underwater? This has to be the worst idea in the entire history of marine propulsion or maybe in the entire history of the internal combustion engine. BRP, if you're watching, go back to work on the Evinrude outboard and bring us something that really works well. I don't care if it's an improved 2-stroke outboard or an all new 4-stroke motor - anything will be better than this foolish thing. If you won't do that, at least provide those of us still running Evinrude outboards with a reliable stream of replacement parts.
Please show more of this engine! I have got to see what a outboard motor internal bilge pump looks like?
You are forgetting the top 5 positives.
1. Fishoflauge color cause it is underwater
2. No wasp nests in cowling.
3. No fuel or oil costs after 3 months underwater cause it quits running
4. Never have to worry about resale value there is none.
5. Can,t think of number 5. Notice my comma in can,t is underneath.
I withdraw my comment there are no positives.@@Avv45
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Number 5: it can be used as an anchor when it fails.
Thanks Udamannee@@smannee
@@Avv45. Grow a pair, cant stand the heat keep out of kitchen.
I have a G2 Etec 150 on my Alumacraft 195 trophy. Came from a 1981 Silvan Sea Monster 17 with a 1984 Evindure 50 hp. That boat still floats and that motor still runs. Has some new parts but still runs. I am an Evinrude die hard. What has happened to them is a travesty
I want an overboard with an under boat.
I like the name Rotax Submarine. It's unbelievable how BRP came up with this!
I’ve got a friend that owns a dealership that sells Manitou. The company got one to him just in time for the boat show in January. It looked like a really cool idea at first because of the huge swim platform. He sold one, and won’t order another. He’s said that Manitou is trying to go to all of this futuristic looking stuff that he don’t think will sell here in Alabama. He picked up Trifecta to sell because of it.
I am so glad i still got my 87 Evinrude made by OMC, still the best motor i ever owned, clean carbs every year, fresh good fuel and no issues.
That ghost submarine.. well they can stick that where the sun never shines and see if the seals hold up.
It was designed to be mounted where the sun don't shine.
@@smannee haha Good one so true🤣
I also have an 87 evinrude it's a 40hp and runs like a champ
BRP Should have stuck with What Worked. I like Many other people Still own a True Outboard. I have a 90 EVINRUDE XP 200. OMC Power that still gets the job done 👍
Lmfao you weren't kidding about the loon shit. That motor looks like its been on the bottom of the river since the early 1970s 😂
Lol😂
I actually saw one of these for sale at Millers Marine, Ocala FL. It was brand new, didn't see a price , was a 150 also. Not impressed but the cowl had enough bolts to stock a hardware store
I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in the first meeting that kicked off this concept. I'm thinking those guys from Impractical Jokers were somehow involved and they told the guy with the earpiece to say....."I have an idea, why don't we make an outboard that sits under the water". And the rest is history
It's worse than that... the Chief Engineer signed off on this pos while we couldn't even keep water out of the last pos he designed... the G2!
After watching this i did some more digging and there are a bunch of sensors and it has a actual self test that tests the sealing of the cowl and engine compartment. And the air intake is molded into the boat. With that being said these motors are not designed or manufactured to be a repower option. Its designed for a specific boats and thats it.
Lmfao! I wanna see you open one of these things up!
We wanted to hear it run and take it for a ride!
Well everybody else is going overboard on their motors, BRP is going "underboard"😂
🤣🤣🤣 i was dying you read that!!!
Seriously though, i stopped in at a local Manitou dealer recently and they said sales are abysmal on this setup. Theres 2 in the Detroit Lakes MN area and its "stupid rich guys" that have them.
BRP is GREAT! An underboard that under normal operation/design is to be submerged needs service ASAP. So... after you launch that brand new underboard into the water, the next step before starting and enjoying your day on the water, load boat back on trailer immediately and bring to dealer; rinse and repeat😆
Just discovered this channel, loving it so far, except the part about Etec's being junk, but hey I'm not going to trash someone who is in the business. So far my 2016 150 HO has been solid. If it ever comes time to re power it will be a Yamaha 175 SHO!!
Лучше возьми ямаха вф150 шо в макс, потом поменяй на нëм электронный блок управления ( или перепрограммируй) на 200 сил. Налог будешь платить за 150, а гонять будешь на 200 силах. Привет из России!
Of all my years as an outboard technician I would have never thought to put the motor under the water.
Saltwater would kill this engine for sure! And 5-year 500-hour service interval? That's a long time for fuel filters, gear lube, grease fittings, zincs etc. I would have thought the G2 failure was a wakeup call. Please do a video on how to service one of these "underwater nightmares".
Go Andy for president 👍🏼
Does the T Shirt come wet? Like submerged in a rubbermaid container full of water?
Thats it...i am buying one of those hats after this...and the beep guy needs a raise.😅😅
Does that hood prop float for when u drop it in the drink?
How do you diagnose and repair with a board in the way and the engine underwater?
A chipped cowel and you have a sunk engine insurance claim.
You are Y.T. GOLD! I love these videos!
I think it could make a nice mail box ( wonderful for large packages)
I’ve seen ONE of these turds in person. It’s amazing that this ever even made it to the drawing board.
And I am definitely getting one of those along with square wheels for my new pick up truck lol
Are you kidding me with that piece of well? You know what I am talking about
Did the engineers REALLY think that we would all be like "This is the best motor ever built"...........Jesus, they all need to be fired and not allowed to be part of ANY design jobs........EVER!!!!!
Seems simple to me. Fill the owners manual full of reasons warranty won’t cover it so all warranty claims can be denied. I am guessing the lost enough on the etec nightmare of warranties to find a way around that.
Glad to see there’s still a few people that tells it like it is and Andy is one of the best . You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken 💩 just saying 😂
Wanna see it opened up!
Where's the nearest dealer ?
Cuz I wanna buy one.
Lemme guess....... Available through Amazon 😅
The hawk tuah of marine engines
But can you tell us how you really feel about it??!😂🤣 Hilarious!! Best commentary ever! You forgot that even with the twins and docking, the motor would NOT hit the dock because you can’t put it in reverse😂🤣😂!! Priceless!! One favor…. You recently did a very impressive over/under on the Gator Trax bass boat. Can you also do one on the Gator Trax GT CC model.?
They won’t go broke on warranty because they’ll only have to warranty the 6 units they sell😂
Did you ever do a follow up video on the underboard?
Turned the Evinrude into that sad sad leaky underboard
Thank god they named it rotax and not evinrude
People making these under boards need to stick their head under the water and try to breath then realize how great of an idea it was 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yes
Andy I am going to repower my new tritoon with 3 of these. I plan to have two on the back and one on the front ( for reverse). When I'm not reversing I can tilt it up so I can see the front engine but not the back 2 engines. If I buy the engine bumper option, I will not need any traditional bumpers which will be a cost savings. I plan to run all engines off of one 12 Volt battery with solar panels mounted below the lifting strakes on the toons.
"keep the speed lower than planing speed" 😂😂😂.....😢.....😂😂😂😂😂!
This is Brps version of build back better.
awesome motor for a submarine! 😂
I think we can all agree that innovation is usually a good thing. This is an answer to a problem that nobody was asking for. It seems like people who don't give a shit about boating designed this motor. Maybe you can say the motors are quieter than other outboards. Obviously the designers don't know boaters. Most boaters love the sound of their outboards. My 1986 Evinrude 15hp will live long after these shit boxes are gone!
Yeah I like quite boats and loud motorcycles but obviously some people like loud outboards. Just look at the new mercs they sound like a muscle car when you start them up.
I'm Back Andy . I'm NOT Switching for this Yellow Submarine Technology, NO WAY JOSE ! NO THANKS ! I'm Sticking with my Old School 90 Evinrude XP 200 2 Stroke on My Stratos 201 Pro. Comfort, Room & Speed. Most of All , Dependability. Starts , Runs Gets me where I want to go and back. Again, NOT Switching 👍
BRP about to get (under) waterboarded 😅
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As a past dealer of Johnson/ Evinrude motors. I’m glad they dropped Evinrude name.
I believe this will be as popular and dependable as the “Sea Drive”.
😂Come on man!! I want one on a ZEleventeen Natro!!!
Johnny #5 Dissemble, No Dissemble!! 😂 💀 That’s awesome!
Andy for president!
Have the engineers ever been in a boat before?
I think the biden administration approved that green design. Lol
Love my BRP offroad toys but man they really shit the bed with this tub of water.
This out I mean underboard water boarding motor really rought out the cuss words 😂
So Andy, does this mean you’re not a fan of the new rotax ghost outboards? 😂 😂😂😂
I love your channel, always have a good laugh watching your videos, watching from New Zealand
I was waiting for you to open it up to see how much water is in it .
Show us it under the cowl or do a service walk around vid and maybe on water vid, plenty more content to be made with this and all the fuckery
Make a video showing us this piece of crap. Open the cowling and see what it looks like inside. Love the channel!
That is a prime example of that Wile E coyote genius right there.
All those booster shots are starting to effect some people within BRP.
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😂😂
Just like they said fall in line with our crappy idea or leave.
Should I buy the extended warranty on my mercury 4 stroke
Oh this is gonna be good
You gotta be yankin my Johnson
What in the fu$% did i just read got me 😂😂😂
Andy you killing me!!!!🤣😂🤣
Real question is what does Andy hate more. Rotax or Force lol
Rotax airplane, helicopter and motorcycle engines are really great, why make something like this under Rotax brand, dont get it.
@@juhavuorinen6305why did they not just go jet boat with this. This technology is already around and is easily done. Its the same platform but no fucking engine in the damn water.
You gotta look at the bright side 😂. If you stick a snorkel on that thing and a little foam in the boat and you can drive it back to the ramp if it sinks😂
just wait until they come out with an EV version! It will change fishing forever! The electric underboard, will shock the fish every-time you go to start up. Put on your life jacket, turn on the ignition switch, then grab your electrically insulated net and start scooping up the fish! Fill up the live-well and Win the tournament by mid-morning, be home by lunch! Watch the rest weigh-in from bed, collect the cash and prizes the next morning! Game... Set... Match... Underboard !
Only negative is... When Johnny buys them out for the EV Nitro... It probably will SHOCK inside the boat, instead of in the water... lol
I definitely will not be switching to a ghost, I’ll keep my 2 smoker opti 😂
I know I'm real late here, but omc has had the submerged outboard section in their service manuals since at least the 60s.
Would be nice to see a video on what is going on inside. You talk about it, but never even take the cover (or whatever that thing is) off. Give us a video on how fun it would be to service one!
I’m surprised insurance companies even cover these outboards.
Do they come with a tiller option?
I for one, AM going to change, I’m taking the 99 200 opti off my Bullet, and putting a 94 200 black max with a drilled exhaust, torque master, and a bobs nosecone 😂
I sure hope the engineers from Rotax making aircraft engines are not the same ones that made this project
They probably won’t cover the warranty because you cranked it over when it’s full of water.
I like my engines and fine wine Extra Dry!
This will last as long as the L-drive on the old bayliner bowriders.
They have dealer in Delaware and I haven’t see one on the water in Delaware or ocean city md
I wanted to see the bilge pump underneath the cowling 😂
i just saw one of these for the first tie on Lake Keowee!!!!
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Evinrude was once a good product. This new outboard is a total bust and it’s sad to see what’s happening. I hate it for the consumer who buys this thing.
TOTAL JUNK . EVINRUDE WAS GREAT WHEN I WAS A KID .
Evinrude is STILL GREAT ! I have a 90 Evinrude XP 200 That runs Great. Nothing like OMC POWER 👍 BRP ROTAX UNDER BOARD OUTBOARD, NO THANKS 🤣🤣
Our switch (and just about every other one) has a constant drain on the battery and runs it dead in less than 2 weeks. That’s without keeping an ECU powered to monitor and run the pumps.
😂😂 I love it
I think they had a idea back in the day, just sell rebranded Suzuki's.
If you find anyone who bought these motors, please get ahold of them and do a video with them. I wanna hear the reason why ANYONE would buy this catastrophe of a motor on purpose? Lol
F**king sh*t Beep beep love it lol… funny and real talk.. F**king speed $$$ no F**king brakes! 😝😝😝
This video is epic
They should build trolling motors... At least that's supposed to be under water....
The very first images I seen of these I thought cool but after hearing of all the problems that are just waiting to happen I'd never ever consider buying one.
Speed, Money, no reverse !
I love my 1991 Evinrude XP 150 V6. I can work on it and it just runs. Sure, I smoke up the dock while the white shoe boys smirk but I dont even care. I never tow them back when they run thier batteries dead with thier 24" Subwoofers.