Be interesting to see how this all shakes out. Back in 2020 when BRP quit production of Evinrude, they said back then that the Evinrude name and ETEC technology would not be sold to any other investor. But I'm like you, I sure wish somebody would be able to get Evinrude back into production.
Private equity and millionaires on boardrooms are so smart. We keep voting for them in every corporate capacity and it kills everything we love everytime.
From history the new company should be called Johnnyrude, these guys produced some legendary outboard engines, my favourite was the Johnson 75hp stinger, you put that on a 14ft boat back in the day nothing was touching it
I was at the first dealer meeting after BRP purchased alumacraft. They would not let me drive becasue I had a BlackMax tattoo on my bicep. I said, "I give you five years and you will have ran it into the ground and put back up for sale". I guess a marine mechanic and boat shop owner knew what he was talking about after 35 years of experience.
I will keep my intruder till i cant find parts anymore. Not to worried about it right now. To many of them for parts distinction right now. Dam good motors. Plus the aftermarket helps
This is music to my ears after being fooled by their 10yr warranty!!!🎉🎉🎉 Never purchasing another product any way shape or form related to a BRP PRODUCT
I’ve a G1 and I’ve already learned to work on the majority of it myself. I’ve rebuilt the lower end complete as well as changed the VST, fuel pump and capacitor because we’ve no one around to service or fix them in a timely manner. Stinks if I’m thousands in and won’t even be able to get the parts anymore.
My 16 G1 150 HO has been great, all I've had to do so far is an impeller. Will be doing the filter soon. Yeah sucks if parts become unavailable. Hopefully she lasts another 10-15 years, then I'm getting a Yamaha.
Had an evenrude and sold it as soon as the company stopped making them. I figured sell it before everyone realizes they are going to just be paper weights. I wasn't going to even think about repowering an older boat.
No underboard here, wish they would have gone back to G1 etec and kept it simple....I just bought a 2011 G1 Etec 250hp to replace my 2004 Ficht that was all but a G1 etec....and happy to find it......
Hey Andy and Team. Another great video. This is Bad and Good News. The Bad was, My wife and I figured BRP was going to Fail with the Underboard when we seen the Videos on them , Bad Designs ! The Good news Maybe if they Sell All of the Marine, Boats and Evinrude and Johnson, Maybe there's Hope After all ?
I don't think it will happen but I hope it does. The designs are good it just needs a good company with quality parts. Everything Bombardier touches goes to crap, sold off or closed.
Here's the REAL DEAL....... The day that computers got installed into cars, trucks, and outboard motors...... That's the day that everything started getting ridiculous. And the average lifespan of those things started going to shit.
I was considering it until I watched your video last year. 😂😂😂 Literally googled this engine because there wasn't a lot of information out except for this channel. 😂😂😂
I work on these every day at marine shop Here in northwest Louisiana. Its a blessing that they are going away. We Have five for sale on the lot right now. They will just sit now. Weve got 5 out there on the water, Constantly braking. From leaky toons to water exhaust codes randomly popping up and having to calibrate the ECM’s has been ridiculous. I just hope we can get parts for the customers we have!
I got a email saying they still plan on producing the Rotax outboard. It’s actually really nice on a Manitou . The Alumacraft doesn’t m as me sense though.
I think it's great news over all, it will get these companies into better hands. We can only hope whoever buys the companies makes them better. Hopefully the new owner does flush the underboard down the drain and not try to re-release like it's some great thing with AI in it.
Just to be clear BRP is not selling the Rotax outboard. They would be crazy to sell the E-Tec technology. The G2 power head is extremely powerful, fuel efficient. And reliable. It’s by far the best 2 stroke outboard ever designed. Hopefully it continues forward with BRP in some shape or form.
If evinrude goes with it, it’d be a heck of a scoop up for white river marine But it’s ridiculous to see how much alumacraft customer service tanked. Everyone’s buying ranger and Lund instead
I was just at my local boat dealer last week. ALL of their Manitous were GONE! Trucks came take all of them away that had the underboard. I knew something was up.
Whomever buys the boat companies should also force the Evinrude and Johnson names or be sold with them, then contract Suzuki to produce the engines, with the Evinrude and Johnson names to place on the boats.
BRP still plans on producing the Rotax outboard. And find manufacturers to put it on there boats. Also the Canadian Government did not give BRP powersports division money. They gave it to the aviation and locomotive side which is totally different. By the way the last rendition of a G2 is fantastic! I
I have a 2007 75 hp ETEC on a bass tracker TXW 175 and so far it works perfectly fine. Haven’t had to do a thing other than regular maintenance. Very smooth running motor - so far🤞🤞
Appears you know a considerable amount of the internal workings of this division. You have any idea how long the G2 74° was in production before they got the pistons fit correct?
I would say take all the Underboard units, prints and tooling and throw into Lake Michigan but that would be considered Littering..... I guess Garbage is supposed to go to the Landfill... Thanks.
I don't get it. Was the whole idea of that pos rotax just to extend the back deck? Reminds me of the old failed Bayliner/Force campaign back in the 80's
Imagine that - the underwater motor that BRP touted as the "latest advancement in marine propulsion" turned out (as expected) to be a big turd. Who woulda thunk it??
What's gonna happen with Alumacraft? I just bought one this year! I told them to make the pontoons on the back an option or add a horizontal ladder because the pontoons don't allow you to add 2 accessories, only one such as 2 Power Poles or 1 Power Pole and 1 kicker.
I'm a Canadian taxpayer. I'm not expecting anything back from this sale. The government will probably send us an invoice or tax hike on top of this sale!!!!
BRP Leadership, Underboard, Parts, Suxs Period! Sold my G1 when they announced they were doing away with the outboard division. They are nothing but a money pit.
300 mill investment for the properties , sad but that is how many buis, are working these days , borrow to buy for future sale , they invested nothing in evinrude just run it into the ground.
Bombardier makes great aircraft but, when they decided to buy OMC it has been one failure after another. I don’t believe Bombardier ever thought much about about the outboard division as their entire focus has been on the total engine and how they could manipulate that part of the market with Seadoo and Skidoo.
Let's be honest here, BRP only bought Evinrude for their personal water crafts and snowmobiles. From what I'm seeing, they tried to become the next white river marine with alumacraft amd manitu but failed miserably.
Well this should tell you something. BRP is not even number 1 in snow mobiles ( and yes I know it pisses you snow machines owner off when I call it that) however they aren’t number one, I think they are like number 3. They can’t even get that right. I hope someone buys the J/E name.
I'm surprised they lasted this long. That was the stupidest design I've ever seen. Who in they're right mind thought that underboard would EVER work.. 🤦♂️
G2 was a good motor that the midsection blew out on. If someone gets the motor and uses a NON-DPS midsection, they could sell them. However, they're better off taking their tech and building a true 4 Stroke and move on.
@@JR-ho5qm I agree, I would still run one today if I didn't sell my boat. 250HO is more powerful than any of the 4 Stroke competitors by a long shot. I've ran all of them besides Suzuki and its the truth no one wants to say.
@@JR-ho5qm yeah, no dobut. I used to have a 521c that was a 73mph boat by myself or 70 with a two guys. We used to surprise a lot of guys on Erie. Thing had like no floatation foam in it though. LOL
Yep saw them they look like crap. From he pods that are not needed to the cheap looking interior changes to the smaller front decks. Even the paint jobs and graphics look worse. I figured Bombardier would screw up alumacrat when they bought them in 18' and its happening. Hope a ood company buys Alumacraft and no I don't think Brunswick is a good company after how they put Lund quality in the toilet.
Just received my under board shirts size 3xl kinda snug and a little short need bigger size like a 4XLTall or at least some 3XLT was wondering if I send you some shirts could you have them printed they are really cool and would like to buy some more if I could get bigger size Joe Tater Sveda
You better buy up all the under boards you can find them things are going to be such collectors items in the future nobody's going to believe they existed they're going to be like unicorns worth the big bucks 💸💵💲💰💸
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Someone needs to buy Evinrude and make it happen, they where the first in outboards. Someone please !!!!
Be interesting to see how this all shakes out. Back in 2020 when BRP quit production of Evinrude, they said back then that the Evinrude name and ETEC technology would not be sold to any other investor. But I'm like you, I sure wish somebody would be able to get Evinrude back into production.
One can only hope my man. So sad.
Someone needs to buy Evinrude and start from scratch.
I don’t have a underboard but I do have a G2 and I love it.
Earlier this summer I was so close on buying an Alumacraft but that God I found a Ranger that I fell in love with.
Watching Andy bringing a video on a Friday is the best thing.
We need to start a bring back Evinrude campaign
So so so happy i listened to your videos about brp this spring and ditched my etec. Bought a suzuki tiller and couldnt be happier
I have a Manitou with a Suzuki 150 and it’s an absolutely amazing toon. When I saw the new underboard design I knew it was going to be a total dud.
Private equity and millionaires on boardrooms are so smart. We keep voting for them in every corporate capacity and it kills everything we love everytime.
PREACH! Corporate greed is killing America.
Don't forget the woke policies of these big corporations 😂
"Big horsepower is just a fad"- that was GB. He was still consulting for them when I left. Dumpster fire!
From history the new company should be called Johnnyrude, these guys produced some legendary outboard engines, my favourite was the Johnson 75hp stinger, you put that on a 14ft boat back in the day nothing was touching it
I was at the first dealer meeting after BRP purchased alumacraft. They would not let me drive becasue I had a BlackMax tattoo on my bicep. I said, "I give you five years and you will have ran it into the ground and put back up for sale". I guess a marine mechanic and boat shop owner knew what he was talking about after 35 years of experience.
Ive seen 1 underboard on the water on Lake Palestine TX and I just laughed and shook my head.
and if you remember they was fireing people who were against the underboard.
I will keep my intruder till i cant find parts anymore. Not to worried about it right now. To many of them for parts distinction right now. Dam good motors. Plus the aftermarket helps
This is music to my ears after being fooled by their 10yr warranty!!!🎉🎉🎉 Never purchasing another product any way shape or form related to a BRP PRODUCT
I’ve a G1 and I’ve already learned to work on the majority of it myself. I’ve rebuilt the lower end complete as well as changed the VST, fuel pump and capacitor because we’ve no one around to service or fix them in a timely manner. Stinks if I’m thousands in and won’t even be able to get the parts anymore.
My 16 G1 150 HO has been great, all I've had to do so far is an impeller. Will be doing the filter soon. Yeah sucks if parts become unavailable. Hopefully she lasts another 10-15 years, then I'm getting a Yamaha.
@@wicky383 I love it but the oil is a little pricey.
Had an evenrude and sold it as soon as the company stopped making them. I figured sell it before everyone realizes they are going to just be paper weights. I wasn't going to even think about repowering an older boat.
@@adamportner8102 at this point I’ll be able to buy a ton of spare motors cheap.
No underboard here, wish they would have gone back to G1 etec and kept it simple....I just bought a 2011 G1 Etec 250hp to replace my 2004 Ficht that was all but a G1 etec....and happy to find it......
Wow, didn’t expect this news, drinking a beer by a fire with my dog on a Friday night.
Tohatsu should buy it scrap the underboard and put Evinrude on on the side of there motors and rename Alumacraft to "Taboatsu" ;)
I literally just bought a alumacraft trophy 175 with a 150hp Suzuki this summer. I really hope this doesn’t screw me over
Hey Andy and Team. Another great video. This is Bad and Good News. The Bad was, My wife and I figured BRP was going to Fail with the Underboard when we seen the Videos on them , Bad Designs ! The Good news Maybe if they Sell All of the Marine, Boats and Evinrude and Johnson, Maybe there's Hope After all ?
Maybe someone will buy it and go back to making Evinrude E-Tec the right way
I don't think it will happen but I hope it does. The designs are good it just needs a good company with quality parts. Everything Bombardier touches goes to crap, sold off or closed.
Here's the REAL DEAL.......
The day that computers got installed into cars, trucks, and outboard motors...... That's the day that everything started getting ridiculous. And the average lifespan of those things started going to shit.
epa regs killed the gas and diesel motors.
I was considering it until I watched your video last year. 😂😂😂 Literally googled this engine because there wasn't a lot of information out except for this channel. 😂😂😂
Iirc, Bombardier received the tax $$$ for their Aerospace division. Not the marine.
BRP has received provincial dollars from Quebec. However this was repaid in 2012ish.
Canadian here,the govement borrowed brp money for there locamotive and arial divisons not powersports,
& they’ve sold majority of the shares to European business
Let us know what y'all think of the news that BRP is selling off their marine division....Who do you think will pick up Alumacraft and Manitou???
Probably Johnny Morris, then he'll ruin the company by shutting them down 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, the parent company of Academy
I work on these every day at marine shop Here in northwest Louisiana. Its a blessing that they are going away. We Have five for sale on the lot right now. They will just sit now. Weve got 5 out there on the water, Constantly braking. From leaky toons to water exhaust codes randomly popping up and having to calibrate the ECM’s has been ridiculous. I just hope we can get parts for the customers we have!
I got a email saying they still plan on producing the Rotax outboard. It’s actually really nice on a Manitou . The Alumacraft doesn’t m as me sense though.
I think it's great news over all, it will get these companies into better hands. We can only hope whoever buys the companies makes them better. Hopefully the new owner does flush the underboard down the drain and not try to re-release like it's some great thing with AI in it.
Well crap. As if I wasn't having a hard enough time getting parts for my etech 😂
Andy I have no idea what you’re even talking about … bucket motor. I’ve only owned Merc & today a Yamaha.
@@stevehenderson2571 Google Rotax S Outboard. 👍🏻
You should buy the Evinrude brand and start them over.
Just to be clear BRP is not selling the Rotax outboard. They would be crazy to sell the E-Tec technology. The G2 power head is extremely powerful, fuel efficient. And reliable. It’s by far the best 2 stroke outboard ever designed. Hopefully it continues forward with BRP in some shape or form.
If evinrude goes with it, it’d be a heck of a scoop up for white river marine
But it’s ridiculous to see how much alumacraft customer service tanked. Everyone’s buying ranger and Lund instead
I was just at my local boat dealer last week. ALL of their Manitous were GONE! Trucks came take all of them away that had the underboard. I knew something was up.
"Big Hp is going away" meanwhile every walleye boat has a 300+ and there are thousands of them on the great lakes.
Well boat sales spiked during convid which pulled ahead boat sales. Make sense all boat sales are down compared to 2019-21.
Whomever buys the boat companies should also force the Evinrude and Johnson names or be sold with them, then contract Suzuki to produce the engines, with the Evinrude and Johnson names to place on the boats.
Snowmobiles ? ? With the lack of snowfall in the midwest , snowmobiles will be a thing of the past ! ! Sold my years ago .
The evinrude brand can make a 4 stroke comeback
Or just put Evinrude stickers on a Suzuki motor!! It’ll run forever!
Never
@@timburton9514they did that with some of the smaller engines. My 9.9 kicker is a Suzuki
Johnny should buy Evinrude and bring it back as under White River marine for jon boats. It can't be that hard to license a 9.9 Tohatsu
BRP still plans on producing the Rotax outboard. And find manufacturers to put it on there boats.
Also the Canadian Government did not give BRP powersports division money. They gave it to the aviation and locomotive side which is totally different. By the way the last rendition of a G2 is fantastic! I
I have a 2007 75 hp ETEC on a bass tracker TXW 175 and so far it works perfectly fine. Haven’t had to do a thing other than regular maintenance. Very smooth running motor - so far🤞🤞
Appears you know a considerable amount of the internal workings of this division. You have any idea how long the G2 74° was in production before they got the pistons fit correct?
@@brentbackus7236 I never herd of a Piston failure in my area at all. The powerheads have been rock solid in Canada
Maybe Chrysler/force will buy the underboard.
I would say take all the Underboard units, prints and tooling and throw into Lake Michigan but that would be considered Littering..... I guess Garbage is supposed to go to the Landfill... Thanks.
This is why I can't wait until Friday!!! game on
Where's the Lego boat tee? 😂😂😂
The biggest loss is the etec 15 ho, with push button 50 rpm speed adjustment... I'll put money in mine until it's impossible to keep it going.
91 million dollars for Manitoo..now I know why the previous owners camp that is not far from me is the way it is LOL
I don't get it. Was the whole idea of that pos rotax just to extend the back deck? Reminds me of the old failed Bayliner/Force campaign back in the 80's
I pray Rodger Penske gets it hey Who owns the Johnson omc names
My 24 alumacraft trophy 185 came with a suzuki 175. Wonder how warranty claims on alumacraft will work now
Friend of
Mine has one. He gutted it and put the rotax in a golf cart so when it blows up he won't get wet..
Imagine that - the underwater motor that BRP touted as the "latest advancement in marine propulsion" turned out (as expected) to be a big turd. Who woulda thunk it??
Someone please buy Alumacraft and scrap the new competitor please!!
All I care about is the OMC parts hopefully we can still them for a long time.. don't care about anything omc didn't design and build..
local boat dealer has about it 15 pontoons between 80 and 120grand …with them fine motors on them 😂😂
What's gonna happen with Alumacraft?
I just bought one this year!
I told them to make the pontoons on the back an option or add a horizontal ladder because the pontoons don't allow you to add 2 accessories, only one such as 2 Power Poles or 1 Power Pole and 1 kicker.
I think rotax could make a great outboard motor.
You took down the Johnson sign for a snap-on sigh☹️
We are changing up the set a bit.
Someone needs to run triple underboards on a 40' Fountain
Underboard not to be confused with underdog
I'm a Canadian taxpayer. I'm not expecting anything back from this sale. The government will probably send us an invoice or tax hike on top of this sale!!!!
We wish you the best of luck
BRP Leadership, Underboard, Parts, Suxs Period! Sold my G1 when they announced they were doing away with the outboard division. They are nothing but a money pit.
300 mill investment for the properties , sad but that is how many buis, are working these days , borrow to buy for future sale , they invested nothing in evinrude just run it into the ground.
Sounds like fuckin true doe, we ain’t getting shit
This is why warranties on odd products or companies with poor track records are often worthless .
THE BEST THING BRP COULD GET IS YOU BUY!!!!!! BUY!!!!! BUYYYY!!!!!!! THE COMPANY! MAKE BRP GREAT AGAIN !!!!!!!!!😂
Bombardier makes great aircraft but, when they decided to buy OMC it has been one failure after another. I don’t believe Bombardier ever thought much about about the outboard division as their entire focus has been on the total engine and how they could manipulate that part of the market with Seadoo and Skidoo.
Tracker already did the under board with that aluminum inboard jet drive.
Nice hat.makes you look younger.
Let's be honest here, BRP only bought Evinrude for their personal water crafts and snowmobiles. From what I'm seeing, they tried to become the next white river marine with alumacraft amd manitu but failed miserably.
Seen one in Rice Lake last week on a pontoon. Just laughed!! Great videos
I believe brp was sold off from Bombier years ago , they build airplanes in Canada
Andy is made a$$ fuc# lol gotta love ur take on it 🤣🤣👍
U call em fleas I call em water bees
I love the hat!
Well this should tell you something. BRP is not even number 1 in snow mobiles ( and yes I know it pisses you snow machines owner off when I call it that) however they aren’t number one, I think they are like number 3. They can’t even get that right. I hope someone buys the J/E name.
😂 this is GOLD
I'm surprised they lasted this long. That was the stupidest design I've ever seen. Who in they're right mind thought that underboard would EVER work.. 🤦♂️
i hope they sell off the rights to Evinrude/Johnson and someone brings them back
G2 was a good motor that the midsection blew out on. If someone gets the motor and uses a NON-DPS midsection, they could sell them. However, they're better off taking their tech and building a true 4 Stroke and move on.
The G2 power head is fantastic! And honestly I think the last rendition of the midsection was pretty close
@@JR-ho5qm I agree, I would still run one today if I didn't sell my boat. 250HO is more powerful than any of the 4 Stroke competitors by a long shot. I've ran all of them besides Suzuki and its the truth no one wants to say.
@@ryan_hartman_fishing yep! I just have a 225 H.0. And it surprises allot of people! It’s fun being the underdog. lol!
@@JR-ho5qm yeah, no dobut. I used to have a 521c that was a 73mph boat by myself or 70 with a two guys. We used to surprise a lot of guys on Erie. Thing had like no floatation foam in it though. LOL
Alumacraft just released a boat designed for the underboard😂
So now there will be NO evinrude parts production at all. Great.
Yes a total of 1.1 Billion Canadian taxpayers money was loaned/given to Bombardier over the years. They claim to have paid 287 million back
Does this mean that Evinrude may be resurrected??
No they are not selling Evinrude or Rotax. They still plan on building the Rotax outboard
Have you seen the deep v alumacraft boats for 2025. They basically decided to fix a problem that didn't exist and put float pods on a walleye boat WTF
Because right now pods are a fad, useless but a fad. There’s another deep v builder who started adding them two yrs ago
Yep saw them they look like crap. From he pods that are not needed to the cheap looking interior changes to the smaller front decks. Even the paint jobs and graphics look worse. I figured Bombardier would screw up alumacrat when they bought them in 18' and its happening. Hope a ood company buys Alumacraft and no I don't think Brunswick is a good company after how they put Lund quality in the toilet.
@@bradmatz8622 polarkraft is the other deep v selling their boats with pods, they call it a catfish boat but it’s simply a deep v with pods
The only engine that was great was that 3 cylinder 115-150
Johnny can buy it and shut it all down
The boat brands will sell, the Evinrude and parts. Well, everyone is screwed on that part. Evinrude is gone and not going to come back.
Bring back Mariner. Yamaha with a Mariner sticker.
Buy it, build a bad ass four stroke and call it the Andyrude…
Yall start a go fund maybe we can rake up $20 and buy it so we never have to see something like that again
Just received my under board shirts size 3xl kinda snug and a little short need bigger size like a 4XLTall or at least some 3XLT was wondering if I send you some shirts could you have them printed they are really cool and would like to buy some more if I could get bigger size Joe Tater Sveda
I know exactly who’s buying the underboard!!! The Kamala campaign 🎉😂😂😂😂😂
Gotta power their sinking ship
Good one😂😂😂
Bankruptcy is a Trump specialty.
The democrats sink tank
🇨🇦 Government gave BRP aviation 💲
You better buy up all the under boards you can find them things are going to be such collectors items in the future nobody's going to believe they existed they're going to be like unicorns worth the big bucks 💸💵💲💰💸
I'm not onto boats but I like to listen to someone who is passionate and knowledgeable about what they like.
BRP ... Beep, Beep, Beep - WTF ;-)
By the way, I had a 60hp G1 ETEC (600+ hours) and now a G1 ETEC 150HO, which have been very good to me. I also enjoy maintaining them and the boat.
Bombardier sea doo sux a zz, you say that name and I see a rod hanging out a crank case
Elon is going to buy it and here comes the cyberboat.....
They’re playing the long game on global warming 😂😂😂😂They’ll be ready for that ice age a couple hundred years from now 😅
All these old cats repping Alumacrap looking real salty rn.
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