Fun fact on the secret what-if scenarios: If you manage somehow to defeat Kid Buu with Hercule/Mr. Satan the characters start to wonder if they are dreaming
Interesting, thanks for clearing that up! I still think it's really cool how he just fights silent though, like, no other character in the game does that except for Evil Buu. Really makes GT Goku even more memorable in this game for me.
@@TheTopWarden i think this might be a version related issue. cause i remember gt ssj3 goku having voice lines in the version i had aka the eu version.
I noticed that super saiyan Goku would take a little bit of damage from devil man this makes so much sense because Goku has a inner rage fueled from negative thoughts which is why he took like 1500 damage. Cool little detail can’t wait for BT4
Fun fact the Warp Kamehameha in BT3 isn't a real beam attack, it's treated more like a volley meaning it can't actually bean clash, which I found it very harshly.
@@nicolaspp4780 The video isn't titled unknown things about BT3 it's an iceberg video; meaning it lists things that alot of people know and don't know about something so Chi-Chi's commentary would be on the top level where as something like Syn Shenron only eats 5 dragonballs instead of 6 when transforming into Omega would be way lower on the iceberg cause people don't know that.
Hey its at least worth pointing out in the comments! Its not like anyone is asking for him to edit and reupload the whole thing for one piece of trivia...right?
For those that don't know the reason in Budokai 1 that the Kamehameha is yellow instead of blue for most characters is because they wanted it to be the color it was in the original manga. Cell is proof that they could have made it blue and purposely chose to make it yellow. I think the amount of negative feedback that was received from it is the reason Angry Kamehameha was made blue. For Baby Vegeta, his attack isn't misspelled. Him struggling with Vegeta's attack names was intentional to show that even though he took over the his body he still wasn't completely Vegeta. Also why he says Big Bang Attack when doing the Final Flash.
For Baby Vegeta, that issue actually pertained to Great Ape Vegeta inside of Tenkaichi 2 as well, I show it in the video, so I definitely think it was an error.
@@TheTopWarden it might be an error that the sound files are left in there when they were altered but him saying the wrong attack name isn't. I'm pretty certain its the same voice file used in Tenkaichi 1
I don't think you'd care much for it anymore, but he actually says the wrong name in reference to the anime, with a line mistake where he yells out big bang attack while using final flash, and it somehow made it into the games, and apparently it also made it into sparking zero as well!@@TheTopWarden
When you switch bodies with Ginyu, your health bar changes and basically gets refreshed to that of the new character, so its value is in refreshing a losing battle and having a fresh new set of health bars where you otherwise would have died
At the end of the video around 29:20 you talked about the Tora "leak" probably being legit because Photoshop didn't exist or that photo editing tools weren't advanced, but Photoshop was invented way back in 1987. It was purchased by Adobe in 1995 and then finally gained the features it''s best known for (healing brush, smart filters, painting, etc) between 2002 and 2005. The only difference is that access to Photoshop was fairly limited since it was expensive, but people were pirating it like CRAZY so I don't doubt someone could have faked a screenshot like that back in the day.
@@JMESIX it's also being made by the team who made jump force💀 I'm already completely abandoning hype for the game. Bandai has already shown all they care about is money so I'm betting it's just gonna be like every other arena fighting game they've been making.
@@MLPIceberg They literally frequently update a 7 year old game and still get called lazy holy shit being a game dev is seriously one of the worst occupations you could have.
I like how he put scary music when showing the iceberg tiers yet there is not a single piece of scary media here (besides recoomes battle damage outfit)
Cell DOES use his 1st form voice in his other forms when he gets hit but he doesn’t have different voice actors for each transformation. Dameon Clarke who dubbed Cell in English for Funimation studio and most games did different voices for each form of Cell.
Just wanted to throw out there in reference to the Toma/Tora image, that photoshop was around long before then and in Japanese it says Grandpa Gohan above him, I'm not sure if that's supposed to be his name in the image but I thought I'd mention it anyways. 孫悟飯じいちゃん is the text if you want to check yourself.
The only ones that come to mind for me rn would be Piccolo and Kaioshin/Supreme Kai. Their different names in the Tournament modes are actually aliases they went by in tournaments in the show, with Majunior being Piccolo's alias from the 23rd World Tournament arc of OG Dragon Ball, and Shin being Kaioshin's alias when he entered in the 25th World Tournament in the Buu arc of Z.
I have had some hours on this game, brings back so much memories. Here's some point i wanna clarify, i might be wrong tho: -For an attack to destroy the planet, it's has to be a large beam, and also touch the ground otherwise the planet onr the stage won't blow up. Certain stages like time and spirit room, kaio world, or cell game can't be destroyed no matter what. - Ssj2 goku despise not being much different from regular goku in terms of ki blast, ssj2 gives a huge boost in combos, it gives a supplementary hit to normal rush attacks and add 2 hits to the overall combo and also add a combo that can shift the enemy backwards, i used to play with it with my cousin, at some level combo is the most important thing in this game. - After activating kaioken mode, goku's kaioken special rush recieve a huge boost, but u must have at least 5 ki bars as it drain energy and u can't power up while it's activated. - Fun fact: Broly doesn't flinch when characters under ssj3 lvl hit him, only goku ssj3, kid buu, buhan, ssj4, the fusions, can make him flinch at the first hit. - Devilman ultimate attack deals fatal blow to any evil characters, it's basically a one shot if the opponent has 30k hp. But for pure hearted characters it doesn't do much damage. - when u go to the store to buy custom items, Lunch's mood swings everytime u open the store. - When u transform a character mid game, the power up will be larger than when u straight up pick the transformation from character select, the same goes for fusion. -Ssj2 Gohan has the fastest Kamehameha "draw" as there's no powering up animation, he just straight up lunch it out of nowhere. - u can control the character's direction while executing some special rush attacks, those travel longer the the other ones. On these ones u can't change direction, the characters will just go linear but in exchange it much faster than the previous ones and deals more damage most of the time. -Mister Satan's rush attacks seem to be dependant on luck, sometimes it deals some damages, sometimes not at all. - there was a kind of glitch with regular goten's rush attack, if u had the timing u could repeat it in loops indefinitely as it only consume 2 ki bars and before the opponent could stand up and turn face to u, u can power up 2 ki bars in that interval😅, same with kid buu's 2x square, 1x triangle spam loop, i could go up to 130 consecutive hits so i can make opponent rage, u could only break it safeky with counter Z who's arguably the most difficult timing in the game defense system. I have plenty of memories and little easter eggs and details about this game, but i have already write too much, doubt someone would read that.
ive read it all! me and my best freind talk about how SSJ 2 Gohan does have the fastest blast move in the game. kinda like in the show how he waited so last minute to do it. I downloaded BT3 with a pcsx2 emulator and im 27 having a blast on that game
Thank you for mentioning Omega2040. He was my go-to guy for DBZ content back in the day. Really well put together video. Well done my man. Just subbed 🙏
When your stats take a hit from those quick max power moves, you can remove it by transforming either up or down if possible. I know this for sure in Super Saiyans, not 100% on Frieza and Cell style, non-reversible transformations
Really? I don't think I remember them going away when transforming since I always used/started with Frieza (1st form). Then again it has been a number of years since I last played BT3. I wish I could play again, but I'm not dumb enough to think emulating a game is a good thing (barring game preservation I guess since no-one else is preserving them).
The Tora image says Grandpa Gohan in the Japanese text, it is curious that there's no source image for it but I do think it's a hoax at the end of the day
Another fun thing you can do is if you go to Team Battle and select Super Saiyan 3 Goku GT, you'll notice you can then select Super Saiyan 4 Goku GT as well. Then select Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta so you can fuse them together and if you have Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta selected in your team you can therefore have two Super Saiyan 4 gogetas (and SSJ4 Gokus) after transforming with SSJ3 GT Goku
I'm genuinely shocked you didn't include the censored character dialogue. Jeice had an intro in Tenkaichi 1 where he says "DONT PLAY STUPID WITH ME, WANKER!" But all subsequent games, you can hear the cut off on "DONT PLAY STUPID WITH ME-" Secondly, when Zangya fights #18, she says, "Your man's kinda cute." 18 then goes "SKANK." Subsequent releases only have her respond with "Enough talk, let's see what you've got." Great video tho🤙
In case nobody else mentioned it, the text above the portrait at 29:35 says "grandpa son gohan" (son gohan ojii-chan). Whoever made this edit forgot to chanfe the character's name apparently.
A few things to note (If i remember correctly) blue health is ALSO accessible via fusion with max health characters and if not, it with the master roshi training potara on atleast one of them. Ssj3 gt goku (as someone already mentioned in the comments) doesnt speak due to a mistake when translating the game, but he DOES speak in intros and such. Final note as to not make this too long, kaioken also actually stacks! Despite not having a unique voiceline, (of which he actually gets in raging blast) goku gets a minor stat boost for ever stack of kaioken he activates. This caps at Kaioken x4 (4 stacks). For those who are interested in some of the numbers, heres the damage done from a neutral combo (mashing square basically) and to the front of the opponent: Kaioken - 3220 damage Kaioken x2 - 3580 damage Kaioken x3 - 3930 damage Kaioken x4 - 4260 damage Its hard to reach these levels without potara so it wont matter most times anyways, but its something neat to think about. Overall though, nice vid👍 i appreciate more information about one of my favourite games of all time being shared!
For those actually curious what an iceberg is: An iceberg is a piece of freshwater ice more than 15 m long that has broken off a glacier or an ice shelf and is floating freely in open (salt) water. Smaller chunks of floating glacially-derived ice are called "growlers" or "bergy bits". The sinking of the Titanic in 1912 led to the formation of the International Ice Patrol in 1914. Much of an iceberg is below the surface, which led to the expression "tip of the iceberg" to illustrate a small part of a larger unseen issue. Icebergs are considered a serious maritime hazard.
See I always thought "Destroy the Planet" couldn't destroy planets because Frieza didn't REALLY destroy the planet when he did it in Z. He damaged the planet's core and caused it to explode 20 minutes later, but it didn't instantly turn it into a wasteland like some of the other moves can
Also I'm SO GLAD Omega2040 was mentioned that was the guy who got me into BT3 and made me seek out a copy as a kid but I could never remember the name of his channel
23:22 Hercule's attack isn't a 50/50. It does more damage if it's used as the 1st attack or if Hercule was the last to do damage. Otherwise, it will fail and will only do 1 damage.
Maybe Frieza's "Destroy the Planet" attack was kind of an Easter Egg, because he wouldn't destroy Namek directly with that attack? I mean it took Namek the infamous 5 more minutes to be destroyed after that...
The attack have to touch the ground for the planet to blow up, also some stages/arena/planet can't be blown up no matter what ( king kai planet, time and spirit chamber, cell games stage. )
1240-1335 segment (approx). Fun fact. SS3 kid Goku speaks in japanese! His voice was dubbed wrong. If you switch the game language setting to Japanese, he'll speak!
I found another unpopular detail in bt3. Ssj4 Vegeta’s eyes. In the anime, his eyes are dark green but in the game his eyes are yellow just like Goku’s. It took me like 8 years to notice this mistake.
Goku (Mid) can only charge his Spirit Bomb 3 times, halos can be given to (almost) everyone who had one in the show, which includes Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu and Piccolo who were seen at King Kai's planet in DBZ filler during the Frieza Saga. Ginyu's ultimate attack is actually really useful, because it completely heals you. It's not supposed to knockout your enemy like other ultimates; it's supposed to keep you alive.
This guy did a terrible job for an iceberg, he misses all these easy details and doesn't even have all the characters unlocked, tf was he thinking? He didn't even take the time to find clips at least, that's so lazy.
Actually Ginyus body change being weak is accurate, when he stole Gokus body he was significantly weaker because he didn’t know how to use it, same thing would happen if he stole anyone elses body hence why every character he chooses doesn’t have a super attack and is weak
it's hard to make an iceberg of a game whose history and communities you don't know, and it's hilariously obvious here most of Tenkaichis history, big players like Zoso, Paige or Hawk aren't included, whereas Omega, the person uploading countless "moveset" videos that don't even cover a 5th of the characters moveset, is the only youtuber mentioned the BT3 Online Battle point does not mention the still active BT3 Netplay community, the modding community is also not mentioned at all outside of the BT4 mod the gameplay mechanics mentioned are also surface-level at best it is certainly interesting seeing how someone outside of the BT3 communities perceives the game, but man I think you only know a small fraction of what the game, or rather the games T1, 2 and 3, actually have to offer
Tbf I don't agree with the sentiment that these sort of informative videos have to be made explicitely by someone who's deeply rooted in the community, but on the other hand it does bring into question the choice to make it an iceberg format
@@1Pidds you don't have to be actively part of the community, it's just that people outside of them are usually fully unaware of most of Tenkaichi's depth and mechanics. And it shows here, since some things said here are straight-up wrong (SSJ2 Goku isn't worse than base, Kaioken isn't a transformation, the game doesn't save twice)
If I remember. There is a white health bar as well, and this is possible to be seen with having two characters with King Kai's training and then making them fuse. Goku and Vegeta.
The two-handed father-son Kamehameha makes total sense to me, since in the anime he solely does it one-handed because he's wounded, and he giving it the final push with just one in the game is simply a cool nod to the anime
@@SlimeBlueMS yeah agreed, it would have been needlessly complicated to give two different movesets to the same character (in fact future Gohan always fights using one arm even when unhurt), but in the upcoming Tenkaichi it would be totally doable, hopefully they do something of the sort
Goku never said kamehameha when he sent the yellow blast towards frieza and that always bothered me. Just because goku shoots a blast doesnt mean it's a kamehameha
it probably wasn't one, freeza was weakened and only capable of moving thanks to the energy donation that Goku gave him before. it was probably an ordinary ki blast.
Photoshop was my thing in high school because we had advanced computer class. Extracurricular classes. I’m 31 now and graduated 2009 so was atleast using it by 2007. But probably before we had access at our school in our small town others already had good knowledge of operating photoshop.
@@shecklesmack9563 thats why it needs them bt3 story mechanics and i think they'll going to remove those things that annoy players like playing the same fight again
100% thought Galick Gun was called Garlic Gun for like 16 years now. I’ve also been playing Fighterz recently and still didn’t notice. It made sense considering the name Vegeta comes from Vegetable.
I tried Goku mid with my friend, he got gogeta with blue health. I charged spirit bomb to max AND used other special "Im getting excited" Only Then you can one shot anyone
Kamehamehas are actually always yellow in the colored manga, and don't necessarily have to be blue, so honestly blue and yellow for different kamehamehas is REALLY interchangeable. Even the x10 Kamehameha was blue at first, then turned red later.
Amazing video, very very well done. I had a mind blow moment when you pointed out that a random looking 2nd costume is what created the almost canon accepted look of super saiyan 5 gogeta. If that 2nd costume had pink short shorts legit canon super saiyan 5 would have short shorts in all the fan fics, everyone would accept that super saiyan 5 has pink short shorts, just because of a random looking 2nd costume in one game. Wow
29:16 bro, Photoshop existed way before 2006. I'm class of 2006 and was using it in my high school digital art class. Hell, I have a bunch of images I edited from back then saved to my Dropbox. This was very possible for an amateur to create in 2006, though I'm fairly sure it's real.
The battle damage costumes for bardock and recoome we're references to the show, bardock's was iconic when he fought Frieza and was really only how anyone knew him at that point in time, and recoome because of the hilarity of his edited costume fromw the original dub not showing the hole in his suit above his ass crack when he got smoked by Goku.
3:37 that’s not true, Raging Blast 1 has a ton of what if scenarios such as Gogeta VS Vegito to see who the best fusion is, or Gohan and Goten actually meeting Bardock, and my favorite Vegeta achieving Super Saiyan 3 and fighting all Super Saiyan 3’s in the game. Great video either way.
Actually, if you try devil might beam on any form of Gohan even in base, it does a little bit of damage a very very small amount which means that Gohan is slightly malicious probably because of his rage and cockiness that was shown in the show.
you should’ve covered baby vegeta’s revenge death ball being done the wrong way. Instead if using it overhead like a spirit bomb, the animation is actually just copied from Super 17’s shocking death ball. There’s also a mistake where he says “big bang attack” when he uses final flash.
@@TheTopWarden that makes sense. But im pretty sure his revenge death ball animation is copied from shocking death ball, even though he performs his ultimate much differently (like a spirit bomb)
Your wrong about blue health only being something you can get on red potara characters or using king kai's training as an item on characters with 4 health bars. You can also get them if you fuse mid fight. So for example, take ssj4 goku and vegeta as your characters and then fuse, then gogeta will have 1 blue bar as well. Also, ssj3 gt goku dousn't talk if the game is in english but he dous talk if it's in japanese. I don't know about other languages tho but he stays silent there as well iirc.
I wouldn't say that Super Garlic Gun is a typo, it's more so a translation error. In English the attack is iconically named "Galick Gun", but in the Japanese version the attack is named "Garlic Ho".
It makes sense that Ginyu can't use anyone's moves, how would he know how to use them? This game is very unbalanced but true to characters for the most part
You're absolutely right about those saving prompts. I think if they even just made "yes" the default selection so you could mash through it would be so much better. The fact that it comes in on "no" is the only reason everybody trips over it. I don't get how the entirety of development felt good about that system.
Kaioken not being a form but being a powerup is AWESOME attention to detail. Kaioken is a technique, not a “form” like Super Saiyan-Super Saiyans can do Kaioken. So making a separate Kaioken Goku character would mean a Kaioken SSJ Goku, Kaioken SSJ2 Goku, and so on for ever for every form.
I love when the iceburgs are made by the person making the video. I dont get why some youtubers just go over iceburgs they didnt create because there always comes that moment in the video when they find something that they dont even know about and cant explain it.
Does Ginyu new body change give him the health of the new character? Maybe ginyu could be in his last bar, and to keep going, the player can choose to get some health bars back by using the Body change.
@@mr.amazingss1019 I can't believe I'm now just finding this out lol. I've played this game for forever and never knew this. What the hell, that really changes the name of the game for Ginyu then. Regardless, thanks for clearing that up.
@@TheTopWarden No problem, there's actually a lot of things and hidden details I didn't know about the game until a couple of months ago. You probably have never heard of some of them either cause you are missing a couple things on here that a lot of people know.
I like how people who make these videos have no idea what the icebergs are referencing at all lmao. The PCSX2 v Dolphin one is about how Doplhin has less input lag and is played at 120% of the speed of PCSX2, that's where the competitive players play BT3.
You can actually also remove the power-up nerfs by going back to base or transforming again. Same goes to the the power-up itself. So all buffs get removed when transforming
One thing you could have added to the end of the iceberg just to shed some light on a Lost Media subject is Lost Dragon ball spin-off series Videos created by early TH-camrs, usually bad quality and no spoken dialog, usually all text on the screen. One TH-camr I remember specifically was named “Sprawlers” and he had an Saiyans vs Androids what-if and a saiyan rebellion what-if, but many other TH-camrs made their own versions of Dragon Ball AF/What-ifs that are now lost
Hi, Congrats for the numbers you got with this video, very deep analysis... i just wanted to add that the online scene of this game is still alive and active to this days, manly on the emulators of course, but even on the og wii ! There are online tournament and friendly matches
Yo dude, this was a great video. I'm glad you brought up the GT Vegeta 4 and Bardock rush supers. Though I will say, Vegeta 4's was kinda busted because you'd just throw somebody right into a Final Shine. That stuff would just kill Krillen on frame 1
27:21 there's also Janemba as a giant with rush attack. There's another one you didn't put in the video, Fat Bu is the only character with Super Kamehameha as secondary Super Attack
That entry was referencing Great Apes specifically, but I forgot Janemba had one too! Thanks for clearing that up though, so technically, they're 2 of a kind. As for Buu, I totally forgot about that, I remember it bugging me a lot when I was younger but I suppose it didn't cross my mind when making this Iceberg. Something else that just occured to me is I think he might be the only one with a Pink Kamehameha too. I think Kid and Evil Buu have a Blue one do they not? If so, Buu is another really unique character. BT3 just has that unique-ness X-factor for these characters man.
Fun fact on the secret what-if scenarios: If you manage somehow to defeat Kid Buu with Hercule/Mr. Satan the characters start to wonder if they are dreaming
Lol wut
@@ghoulchan7525 on the last buu saga mission, the one that you use goku-vegeta-fat buu-hercule
gt goku ssj3 having no voice is actually a dub thing, if you switch to japanese he has his voice like normal
@June Stan you should take a note or two from the dub.
@June Stan he didn't mention it in the video, i just added it, probably older than you too, not an adult but still
Interesting, thanks for clearing that up! I still think it's really cool how he just fights silent though, like, no other character in the game does that except for Evil Buu. Really makes GT Goku even more memorable in this game for me.
@June nobody knew that now stfu and stop being an asshole online.
@@TheTopWarden
i think this might be a version related issue.
cause i remember gt ssj3 goku having voice lines in the version i had aka the eu version.
I noticed that super saiyan Goku would take a little bit of damage from devil man this makes so much sense because Goku has a inner rage fueled from negative thoughts which is why he took like 1500 damage. Cool little detail can’t wait for BT4
What a game
@@joshuaarevalo1515are you joking? This game
@@PatternLand Read his comment again
@@PatternLand He meant what an amazing game.
@@Gamer25891 yeah lmao I see it now but ya gotta admit that doesn’t look good on text it’s not the same
Anyone else remember mishearing Piccolo as a kid when he used Light Grenade? I always hear "Cherry Bullet" but he was actually saying "Fury Bullet".
I always hear "Nail Bullet"
I used to thing he said Cereal Bullet 💀
I always heard it as cherry bullet
i thought it was "fairy bullet" for years until i looked at the attack on the dbz wiki
I would hear either "Cherry Bullet" or "Steering Bullet"
Fun fact the Warp Kamehameha in BT3 isn't a real beam attack, it's treated more like a volley meaning it can't actually bean clash, which I found it very harshly.
But it was easy to counter as u just need to press O/B the exact moment u hear the teleportation sound effect😎
How are you gonna have a DBZ BT3 Iceberg and not have Chi-Chi's commentary on it one of the most memorable and popular things in the game?
If it's popular why would It be in a video about unknown things
@@nicolaspp4780 The video isn't titled unknown things about BT3 it's an iceberg video; meaning it lists things that alot of people know and don't know about something so Chi-Chi's commentary would be on the top level where as something like Syn Shenron only eats 5 dragonballs instead of 6 when transforming into Omega would be way lower on the iceberg cause people don't know that.
@@nicolaspp4780 Goku (Mid) is the this iceberg, so I don’t see why Chi-Chi’s commentary wouldn’t.
Hey its at least worth pointing out in the comments! Its not like anyone is asking for him to edit and reupload the whole thing for one piece of trivia...right?
@@eddy9524 I'm not saying re-upload the video but he could make a part two and insert things that he didn't know or completely forgot about.
For those that don't know the reason in Budokai 1 that the Kamehameha is yellow instead of blue for most characters is because they wanted it to be the color it was in the original manga. Cell is proof that they could have made it blue and purposely chose to make it yellow. I think the amount of negative feedback that was received from it is the reason Angry Kamehameha was made blue.
For Baby Vegeta, his attack isn't misspelled. Him struggling with Vegeta's attack names was intentional to show that even though he took over the his body he still wasn't completely Vegeta. Also why he says Big Bang Attack when doing the Final Flash.
For Baby Vegeta, that issue actually pertained to Great Ape Vegeta inside of Tenkaichi 2 as well, I show it in the video, so I definitely think it was an error.
@@TheTopWarden it might be an error that the sound files are left in there when they were altered but him saying the wrong attack name isn't. I'm pretty certain its the same voice file used in Tenkaichi 1
Yellow angry Kamerafrau would had been better
I don't think you'd care much for it anymore, but he actually says the wrong name in reference to the anime, with a line mistake where he yells out big bang attack while using final flash, and it somehow made it into the games, and apparently it also made it into sparking zero as well!@@TheTopWarden
When you switch bodies with Ginyu, your health bar changes and basically gets refreshed to that of the new character, so its value is in refreshing a losing battle and having a fresh new set of health bars where you otherwise would have died
Damien Clarke actually voices all the forms of Cell he just does a different voice for every form
was coming here to check if someone said it already lol
voice acting really is such an amazing thing i love it
Dude is a great voice actor.
At the end of the video around 29:20 you talked about the Tora "leak" probably being legit because Photoshop didn't exist or that photo editing tools weren't advanced, but Photoshop was invented way back in 1987. It was purchased by Adobe in 1995 and then finally gained the features it''s best known for (healing brush, smart filters, painting, etc) between 2002 and 2005. The only difference is that access to Photoshop was fairly limited since it was expensive, but people were pirating it like CRAZY so I don't doubt someone could have faked a screenshot like that back in the day.
Yeah for real. Him saying Photoshop didn't exist back in 2006 made my head hurt
Plus the name above is grandpa gohan In Japanese
Tbf it’s not a were, people still ARE pirating adobe because their pricing is ridiculous.
@@Peratohtori made me okay "Okay, zoomer"
@@Peratohtori made me say "Okay, zoomer"
Just as a point of correction, Vegeta did fight with a scouter on when he was fighting Cui on Namek.
Let's hope that BT4 has this love put in it and not just a cash grab game
Half the roster will be dlc
@@JMESIX more like 90%
Knowing Bandai? Likely half the game being lazy DLC and base game being a cash-grab... they really don't care. I hope I'm wrong though.
@@JMESIX it's also being made by the team who made jump force💀 I'm already completely abandoning hype for the game. Bandai has already shown all they care about is money so I'm betting it's just gonna be like every other arena fighting game they've been making.
@@MLPIceberg They literally frequently update a 7 year old game and still get called lazy holy shit being a game dev is seriously one of the worst occupations you could have.
For someone called Goku (Mid) bastard aint Mid at all, so fun to play and is oretty strong.
Best goku in the game
@Miggy Hell yeah his combos are great and his charge isn't slow like ssj3.
had a feeling someone would comment that lol i actually come back to that Goku way more than End Goku, and even GT Goku
I like how he put scary music when showing the iceberg tiers yet there is not a single piece of scary media here (besides recoomes battle damage outfit)
Not scary at all
Wuss
Bro it's BO2's main menu music wym
If you use health buffs on two characters that have a fusion and fuse them in a team battle you can get well into blue health bar
Saying Photoshop or advanced photo editing didn't exist in 2007 might be the dumbest shit I've ever heard
Cell DOES use his 1st form voice in his other forms when he gets hit but he doesn’t have different voice actors for each transformation. Dameon Clarke who dubbed Cell in English for Funimation studio and most games did different voices for each form of Cell.
He meant they have different voices for each form
You forgot to mention that the fusion dance is permanent in all the Budokia tenkiechi games
Apart from tenkiechi tag
Never thought I'd see an iceberg video on this Game lol, glad I found it and great video btw
7:20 it doesn't make SS2 worse. It's accurate to the anime. He becomes faster and all of his attacks will cause more damage except for his ultimate.
Just wanted to throw out there in reference to the Toma/Tora image, that photoshop was around long before then and in Japanese it says Grandpa Gohan above him, I'm not sure if that's supposed to be his name in the image but I thought I'd mention it anyways.
孫悟飯じいちゃん is the text if you want to check yourself.
surprised you didn't mention how certain characters have different names in the world tournament mode
I noticed that just today. Piccolo (End) was called Majunior I think? Very weird
The only ones that come to mind for me rn would be Piccolo and Kaioshin/Supreme Kai. Their different names in the Tournament modes are actually aliases they went by in tournaments in the show, with Majunior being Piccolo's alias from the 23rd World Tournament arc of OG Dragon Ball, and Shin being Kaioshin's alias when he entered in the 25th World Tournament in the Buu arc of Z.
I have had some hours on this game, brings back so much memories. Here's some point i wanna clarify, i might be wrong tho:
-For an attack to destroy the planet, it's has to be a large beam, and also touch the ground otherwise the planet onr the stage won't blow up. Certain stages like time and spirit room, kaio world, or cell game can't be destroyed no matter what.
- Ssj2 goku despise not being much different from regular goku in terms of ki blast, ssj2 gives a huge boost in combos, it gives a supplementary hit to normal rush attacks and add 2 hits to the overall combo and also add a combo that can shift the enemy backwards, i used to play with it with my cousin, at some level combo is the most important thing in this game.
- After activating kaioken mode, goku's kaioken special rush recieve a huge boost, but u must have at least 5 ki bars as it drain energy and u can't power up while it's activated.
- Fun fact: Broly doesn't flinch when characters under ssj3 lvl hit him, only goku ssj3, kid buu, buhan, ssj4, the fusions, can make him flinch at the first hit.
- Devilman ultimate attack deals fatal blow to any evil characters, it's basically a one shot if the opponent has 30k hp. But for pure hearted characters it doesn't do much damage.
- when u go to the store to buy custom items, Lunch's mood swings everytime u open the store.
- When u transform a character mid game, the power up will be larger than when u straight up pick the transformation from character select, the same goes for fusion.
-Ssj2 Gohan has the fastest Kamehameha "draw" as there's no powering up animation, he just straight up lunch it out of nowhere.
- u can control the character's direction while executing some special rush attacks, those travel longer the the other ones. On these ones u can't change direction, the characters will just go linear but in exchange it much faster than the previous ones and deals more damage most of the time.
-Mister Satan's rush attacks seem to be dependant on luck, sometimes it deals some damages, sometimes not at all.
- there was a kind of glitch with regular goten's rush attack, if u had the timing u could repeat it in loops indefinitely as it only consume 2 ki bars and before the opponent could stand up and turn face to u, u can power up 2 ki bars in that interval😅, same with kid buu's 2x square, 1x triangle spam loop, i could go up to 130 consecutive hits so i can make opponent rage, u could only break it safeky with counter Z who's arguably the most difficult timing in the game defense system.
I have plenty of memories and little easter eggs and details about this game, but i have already write too much, doubt someone would read that.
ive read it all! me and my best freind talk about how SSJ 2 Gohan does have the fastest blast move in the game. kinda like in the show how he waited so last minute to do it. I downloaded BT3 with a pcsx2 emulator and im 27 having a blast on that game
Thank you for mentioning Omega2040. He was my go-to guy for DBZ content back in the day. Really well put together video. Well done my man. Just subbed 🙏
When your stats take a hit from those quick max power moves, you can remove it by transforming either up or down if possible. I know this for sure in Super Saiyans, not 100% on Frieza and Cell style, non-reversible transformations
Really? I don't think I remember them going away when transforming since I always used/started with Frieza (1st form). Then again it has been a number of years since I last played BT3. I wish I could play again, but I'm not dumb enough to think emulating a game is a good thing (barring game preservation I guess since no-one else is preserving them).
@@MLPIceberg What?
The Tora image says Grandpa Gohan in the Japanese text, it is curious that there's no source image for it but I do think it's a hoax at the end of the day
Another fun thing you can do is if you go to Team Battle and select Super Saiyan 3 Goku GT, you'll notice you can then select Super Saiyan 4 Goku GT as well. Then select Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta so you can fuse them together and if you have Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta selected in your team you can therefore have two Super Saiyan 4 gogetas (and SSJ4 Gokus) after transforming with SSJ3 GT Goku
You mean 1 goku ssj4 and 2 gogeta ssj4 because after fusing goku and vegeta it makes the second gogeta and you have only one goku left from two
I'm genuinely shocked you didn't include the censored character dialogue.
Jeice had an intro in Tenkaichi 1 where he says "DONT PLAY STUPID WITH ME, WANKER!"
But all subsequent games, you can hear the cut off on
"DONT PLAY STUPID WITH ME-"
Secondly, when Zangya fights #18, she says,
"Your man's kinda cute."
18 then goes
"SKANK."
Subsequent releases only have her respond with
"Enough talk, let's see what you've got."
Great video tho🤙
In case nobody else mentioned it, the text above the portrait at 29:35 says "grandpa son gohan" (son gohan ojii-chan). Whoever made this edit forgot to chanfe the character's name apparently.
A few things to note
(If i remember correctly) blue health is ALSO accessible via fusion with max health characters and if not, it with the master roshi training potara on atleast one of them.
Ssj3 gt goku (as someone already mentioned in the comments) doesnt speak due to a mistake when translating the game, but he DOES speak in intros and such.
Final note as to not make this too long, kaioken also actually stacks! Despite not having a unique voiceline, (of which he actually gets in raging blast) goku gets a minor stat boost for ever stack of kaioken he activates. This caps at Kaioken x4 (4 stacks).
For those who are interested in some of the numbers, heres the damage done from a neutral combo (mashing square basically) and to the front of the opponent:
Kaioken - 3220 damage
Kaioken x2 - 3580 damage
Kaioken x3 - 3930 damage
Kaioken x4 - 4260 damage
Its hard to reach these levels without potara so it wont matter most times anyways, but its something neat to think about.
Overall though, nice vid👍 i appreciate more information about one of my favourite games of all time being shared!
"as someone already mentioned in the comments" hey! that's me! :D
For those actually curious what an iceberg is:
An iceberg is a piece of freshwater ice more than 15 m long that has broken off a glacier or an ice shelf and is floating freely in open (salt) water.
Smaller chunks of floating glacially-derived ice are called "growlers" or "bergy bits". The sinking of the Titanic in 1912 led to the formation of the International Ice Patrol in 1914.
Much of an iceberg is below the surface, which led to the expression "tip of the iceberg" to illustrate a small part of a larger unseen issue. Icebergs are considered a serious maritime hazard.
See I always thought "Destroy the Planet" couldn't destroy planets because Frieza didn't REALLY destroy the planet when he did it in Z. He damaged the planet's core and caused it to explode 20 minutes later, but it didn't instantly turn it into a wasteland like some of the other moves can
Also I'm SO GLAD Omega2040 was mentioned that was the guy who got me into BT3 and made me seek out a copy as a kid but I could never remember the name of his channel
23:22 Hercule's attack isn't a 50/50. It does more damage if it's used as the 1st attack or if Hercule was the last to do damage. Otherwise, it will fail and will only do 1 damage.
Didn’t know that damnn
Holy shit I've been playing since day 1 and never knew this
Maybe Frieza's "Destroy the Planet" attack was kind of an Easter Egg, because he wouldn't destroy Namek directly with that attack? I mean it took Namek the infamous 5 more minutes to be destroyed after that...
The attack have to touch the ground for the planet to blow up, also some stages/arena/planet can't be blown up no matter what ( king kai planet, time and spirit chamber, cell games stage. )
Saying Photoshop and fake leaks didn't exist in 2007... am I that old...
In the manga the Kamehameha is yellow. The anime changed it blue because this was before the colored version came out.
So the game had it right.
1240-1335 segment (approx). Fun fact. SS3 kid Goku speaks in japanese! His voice was dubbed wrong. If you switch the game language setting to Japanese, he'll speak!
I found another unpopular detail in bt3. Ssj4 Vegeta’s eyes. In the anime, his eyes are dark green but in the game his eyes are yellow just like Goku’s. It took me like 8 years to notice this mistake.
Damn, interesting
Goku (Mid) can only charge his Spirit Bomb 3 times, halos can be given to (almost) everyone who had one in the show, which includes Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu and Piccolo who were seen at King Kai's planet in DBZ filler during the Frieza Saga. Ginyu's ultimate attack is actually really useful, because it completely heals you. It's not supposed to knockout your enemy like other ultimates; it's supposed to keep you alive.
Thank you. I know creating videos takes time. That spirit bomb charge mistake could have been easily avoided if he just tested it.
This guy did a terrible job for an iceberg, he misses all these easy details and doesn't even have all the characters unlocked, tf was he thinking? He didn't even take the time to find clips at least, that's so lazy.
Vegeta "fought" Cui with the scouter on. He even does Dirty Fireworks in that fight.
Actually Ginyus body change being weak is accurate, when he stole Gokus body he was significantly weaker because he didn’t know how to use it, same thing would happen if he stole anyone elses body hence why every character he chooses doesn’t have a super attack and is weak
It was done to pprevent cheesing
*talks about passwords and unlocking characters* “I don’t have future Gohan unlocked”
it's hard to make an iceberg of a game whose history and communities you don't know, and it's hilariously obvious here
most of Tenkaichis history, big players like Zoso, Paige or Hawk aren't included, whereas Omega, the person uploading countless "moveset" videos that don't even cover a 5th of the characters moveset, is the only youtuber mentioned
the BT3 Online Battle point does not mention the still active BT3 Netplay community, the modding community is also not mentioned at all outside of the BT4 mod
the gameplay mechanics mentioned are also surface-level at best
it is certainly interesting seeing how someone outside of the BT3 communities perceives the game, but man I think you only know a small fraction of what the game, or rather the games T1, 2 and 3, actually have to offer
Tbf I don't agree with the sentiment that these sort of informative videos have to be made explicitely by someone who's deeply rooted in the community, but on the other hand it does bring into question the choice to make it an iceberg format
@@1Pidds you don't have to be actively part of the community, it's just that people outside of them are usually fully unaware of most of Tenkaichi's depth and mechanics.
And it shows here, since some things said here are straight-up wrong (SSJ2 Goku isn't worse than base, Kaioken isn't a transformation, the game doesn't save twice)
If I remember. There is a white health bar as well, and this is possible to be seen with having two characters with King Kai's training and then making them fuse. Goku and Vegeta.
Bro really said "legitly", rather than "legitimately".
The two-handed father-son Kamehameha makes total sense to me, since in the anime he solely does it one-handed because he's wounded, and he giving it the final push with just one in the game is simply a cool nod to the anime
It would be cool if he only ever used 1 arm for the attack if he became battle damaged
@@SlimeBlueMS yeah agreed, it would have been needlessly complicated to give two different movesets to the same character (in fact future Gohan always fights using one arm even when unhurt), but in the upcoming Tenkaichi it would be totally doable, hopefully they do something of the sort
Goku never said kamehameha when he sent the yellow blast towards frieza and that always bothered me. Just because goku shoots a blast doesnt mean it's a kamehameha
it probably wasn't one, freeza was weakened and only capable of moving thanks to the energy donation that Goku gave him before. it was probably an ordinary ki blast.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that was a basic ki blast. Goku only needed like 1% of his power to annihilate Frieza at this point
It's just a ki blast lol the kamehameha wave is blue, it isn't always particular on how it's said but it is always at least in cannon blue.
"Angry Kamehameha" should've honestly been a super not an ultimate
@@JogVodka I agree, and it never should of been called Kamehameha either
Photoshop was my thing in high school because we had advanced computer class. Extracurricular classes. I’m 31 now and graduated 2009 so was atleast using it by 2007. But probably before we had access at our school in our small town others already had good knowledge of operating photoshop.
If they combine bt2 story mode with bt3 story mechanics🔥
BT2's story mode was death by loading screen, flying around to land on tiny set pieces with one NPC giving you pointless dialogue. Hard pass.
@@shecklesmack9563 thats why it needs them bt3 story mechanics and i think they'll going to remove those things that annoy players like playing the same fight again
100% thought Galick Gun was called Garlic Gun for like 16 years now. I’ve also been playing Fighterz recently and still didn’t notice. It made sense considering the name Vegeta comes from Vegetable.
29:14 The Japanese text says "Grandpa Gohan" instead of "Toma"
I tried Goku mid with my friend, he got gogeta with blue health. I charged spirit bomb to max AND used other special "Im getting excited" Only Then you can one shot anyone
This video is so good, hope this blows up in views
Kamehamehas are actually always yellow in the colored manga, and don't necessarily have to be blue, so honestly blue and yellow for different kamehamehas is REALLY interchangeable. Even the x10 Kamehameha was blue at first, then turned red later.
Amazing video, very very well done.
I had a mind blow moment when you pointed out that a random looking 2nd costume is what created the almost canon accepted look of super saiyan 5 gogeta. If that 2nd costume had pink short shorts legit canon super saiyan 5 would have short shorts in all the fan fics, everyone would accept that super saiyan 5 has pink short shorts, just because of a random looking 2nd costume in one game.
Wow
29:16 bro, Photoshop existed way before 2006. I'm class of 2006 and was using it in my high school digital art class. Hell, I have a bunch of images I edited from back then saved to my Dropbox. This was very possible for an amateur to create in 2006, though I'm fairly sure it's real.
It's not real. The leak used the Japanese name for "Grandpa Son Gohan" instead of "Tora". It is a mediocre attempt at faking and using photoshop
10:34 NAHGGGHH BARDOCK WITH THE NASTY BACKSHOTS ☠️☠️☠️
The move should have been called “Ass Breaker”
The battle damage costumes for bardock and recoome we're references to the show, bardock's was iconic when he fought Frieza and was really only how anyone knew him at that point in time, and recoome because of the hilarity of his edited costume fromw the original dub not showing the hole in his suit above his ass crack when he got smoked by Goku.
11:23 incorrect. Same voice actor, different voice for each form.
3:37 that’s not true, Raging Blast 1 has a ton of what if scenarios such as Gogeta VS Vegito to see who the best fusion is, or Gohan and Goten actually meeting Bardock, and my favorite Vegeta achieving Super Saiyan 3 and fighting all Super Saiyan 3’s in the game.
Great video either way.
You could add that the white hair version of ssj4 gogeta is actually a refrence to the fan made of dbgt (dragon ball AF)
Oh sorry i didnt saw the last iceberg chapter
But u still didnt said that its a refrence to dbAF
Actually, if you try devil might beam on any form of Gohan even in base, it does a little bit of damage a very very small amount which means that Gohan is slightly malicious probably because of his rage and cockiness that was shown in the show.
you should’ve covered baby vegeta’s revenge death ball being done the wrong way. Instead if using it overhead like a spirit bomb, the animation is actually just copied from Super 17’s shocking death ball. There’s also a mistake where he says “big bang attack” when he uses final flash.
If I'm not mistaken, that was an intentional design choice since Baby doesn't know the names of Vegeta's attacks.
@@TheTopWarden that makes sense. But im pretty sure his revenge death ball animation is copied from shocking death ball, even though he performs his ultimate much differently (like a spirit bomb)
Also, Frieza's "destroy the planet" can't destroy a planet at all
The Tora thing is false. The name reads “孫悟飯じいちゃん”-“Grandpa Gohan”. The image was always fake, unfortunately.
You better cover Bt4 (now known as sparking zero) when it drops
Your wrong about blue health only being something you can get on red potara characters or using king kai's training as an item on characters with 4 health bars. You can also get them if you fuse mid fight. So for example, take ssj4 goku and vegeta as your characters and then fuse, then gogeta will have 1 blue bar as well. Also, ssj3 gt goku dousn't talk if the game is in english but he dous talk if it's in japanese. I don't know about other languages tho but he stays silent there as well iirc.
I wouldn't say that Super Garlic Gun is a typo, it's more so a translation error. In English the attack is iconically named "Galick Gun", but in the Japanese version the attack is named "Garlic Ho".
Ssj2 goku is my favorite I never even noticed his combos are mint
He’s still really cool despite his reused SA’s IMO.
It always triggered me how frieza saga vegeta could go great ape even if he didn't have a tail
It makes sense that Ginyu can't use anyone's moves, how would he know how to use them? This game is very unbalanced but true to characters for the most part
I know. He should be able to use his attacks still though. In RB2 he does just that.
You might as well just download a save file with everything and put it onto your card or just google how to unlock them.
You're absolutely right about those saving prompts. I think if they even just made "yes" the default selection so you could mash through it would be so much better. The fact that it comes in on "no" is the only reason everybody trips over it. I don't get how the entirety of development felt good about that system.
Hopefully they make it so you can choose any costume for characters in the new game. Always wanted to do SS three Goku with no shirt.
3:45 Teen Gohan in the Goku fit is SO HARD imo
The new game has big shoes to fill this game was ahead of its time and idk if it can be replicated especially sine back then dlc didn't exist
"Nah Vegeta fought Cui with his scooter on. Mystery solved."
This was a very good video with great editing and information keep up the amazing work! 🎉
I was huge bardock user in both BT 2-3 and I always liked 2 better
BO2 background music is so fxcking good
Kaioken not being a form but being a powerup is AWESOME attention to detail. Kaioken is a technique, not a “form” like Super Saiyan-Super Saiyans can do Kaioken. So making a separate Kaioken Goku character would mean a Kaioken SSJ Goku, Kaioken SSJ2 Goku, and so on for ever for every form.
Captain ginyu’s final attack gives you 3 bars of health I guess if we are low on health just change the body
I love when the iceburgs are made by the person making the video. I dont get why some youtubers just go over iceburgs they didnt create because there always comes that moment in the video when they find something that they dont even know about and cant explain it.
Crazy that swagkaga is in the comments right here 25:09
Future gohan ain't from the tournaments tho? he comes from a dragon ball wish on shenron, just farm the final trunks story mission in the cell saga
Does Ginyu new body change give him the health of the new character? Maybe ginyu could be in his last bar, and to keep going, the player can choose to get some health bars back by using the Body change.
Yeah Ginyu gets all his health back whenever he does body change its really good if you're low on health
@@mr.amazingss1019 so is not useless as more like, a second wind to try and take the victory.
@@lazysho5777 yes exactly that
@@mr.amazingss1019 I can't believe I'm now just finding this out lol. I've played this game for forever and never knew this. What the hell, that really changes the name of the game for Ginyu then. Regardless, thanks for clearing that up.
@@TheTopWarden No problem, there's actually a lot of things and hidden details I didn't know about the game until a couple of months ago. You probably have never heard of some of them either cause you are missing a couple things on here that a lot of people know.
I like how people who make these videos have no idea what the icebergs are referencing at all lmao.
The PCSX2 v Dolphin one is about how Doplhin has less input lag and is played at 120% of the speed of PCSX2, that's where the competitive players play BT3.
Heads-up!
The bt4 mod of bt3 just got updated.
I love how it's a tenkaichi 3 iceberg, but you use tenkaichi 2 soundtrack.
I don't blame you cause it's Legendary
Dolphin netplay is actually a godsend for this great game. Love your video and if you get the chance you should try some bt3 netplay
Photoshop not around in 2007? Did you even research lol
Awesome iceberg!
You can actually also remove the power-up nerfs by going back to base or transforming again. Same goes to the the power-up itself. So all buffs get removed when transforming
One thing you could have added to the end of the iceberg just to shed some light on a Lost Media subject is Lost Dragon ball spin-off series Videos created by early TH-camrs, usually bad quality and no spoken dialog, usually all text on the screen. One TH-camr I remember specifically was named “Sprawlers” and he had an Saiyans vs Androids what-if and a saiyan rebellion what-if, but many other TH-camrs made their own versions of Dragon Ball AF/What-ifs that are now lost
6:18 You Forgot To Mention DBKakarot DLC Warrior Of Hope, One-Arm Future Gohan Is Also Playable There
Awesome vid 🔥🔥
29:30 are you serious? We had Photoshop in 2007.
Hi, Congrats for the numbers you got with this video, very deep analysis... i just wanted to add that the online scene of this game is still alive and active to this days, manly on the emulators of course, but even on the og wii ! There are online tournament and friendly matches
What is the music playing in the background at 14:30?
Dragon ball z budokai Tenkaichi 2 OST - Dark Half
Yo dude, this was a great video. I'm glad you brought up the GT Vegeta 4 and Bardock rush supers. Though I will say, Vegeta 4's was kinda busted because you'd just throw somebody right into a Final Shine. That stuff would just kill Krillen on frame 1
27:21 there's also Janemba as a giant with rush attack.
There's another one you didn't put in the video, Fat Bu is the only character with Super Kamehameha as secondary Super Attack
That entry was referencing Great Apes specifically, but I forgot Janemba had one too! Thanks for clearing that up though, so technically, they're 2 of a kind.
As for Buu, I totally forgot about that, I remember it bugging me a lot when I was younger but I suppose it didn't cross my mind when making this Iceberg. Something else that just occured to me is I think he might be the only one with a Pink Kamehameha too. I think Kid and Evil Buu have a Blue one do they not? If so, Buu is another really unique character. BT3 just has that unique-ness X-factor for these characters man.