Michael Pollan: Psychedelic Science | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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Professor and author Michael Pollan joins Bill to discuss his latest book: "How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence."
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Go back ten years.. try this conversation on political talk show.. we are winning this insane war..
Jokes on you! It was discussed on talk shows nationa wide in 1965
Terence McKenna is smiling down on this conversation!
Mainstream by 2018? Not in his wildest dreams....
well, acording to him by 2018 the world should've already ended in a climax of exponentialy increasing novelty. so...
Im gonna cry
I'm a medical student who recently finished reading this book, and I absolutely LOVED it. Having a history of mental illness, anorexia, binging, depression, the ideas in this book really elucidated the mechanisms of mental illness. As I am training my mind to see it as a "snowy hill" (the analogy described in the book), I am learning to see that where thoughts go, energy flows. I also am trying strategies to reduce blood flow to my DMN, such that I can be more fully conscious, present in the beauty of life.
Also created a youtube video on this if anyone is interested in a summary! It's called "what psychedelics taught me about mental illness"
Where’s ur video? Didn’t see it
I love the fact that this subject gets recognized on this scale but Maher never fails to take a subject and compress it into a few easily digestible one-liners for applause.
I think it's anti-intellectual to play everything up for cheers, especially if your reason (which it seems to be to me) is to boost your own ego.
I encourage everyone to read more on this subject and try to understand the mans points he's trying to make here.
I've read at least four of his books... I've read many books (I know I sound like Trump), but something about reading Michael Pollan is more fun, deeply informative, and elevating than most people you'll read from this century at least!
It's unfortunate that these important discussions need to be so abrupt and to the point and interrupted with jokes on shows like this. But on the other hand to see someone like Michael Pollan on a show as popular as Real Time talking about psychedelics and ego dissolution is really really awesome.
Bill get the giggles on mushrooms because he is a comedian and his subconscious sees laughter as s spiritual existential sacrament.
Michael is a writer, food commentator and lifestyle hacker / deconstructor of sorts. Having your ego melt like butter over the landscape makes perfect sense.
Cool idea but not true
165Dash wow so well put
It's about context, as Michael said. Taking a large dose on a therapeutic trip is totally different to a recreational dose with friends.
I feel so connected to this guy.
hard subject to talk about in public, let alone on TV in front of millions of people. props to this guy for starting a conversation that needs to be had
He's even gone on CBS to make the case. He's a champ.
I love Bill's lack of filter.
having asperger"s and being born without a filter,
I find it soothing, and real.....
Lets do a show on no filter !!!!!!!!!
We need to study these things.
Study everything I say. It's exactly how we learn new things. Penicillin from mould on bread, aspirin from the bark of a tree.
We need to study these things? They've been in constant use since as far back as we can focus our view of human experience. If we can't rely on 5 or 6 thousand years of experience what can we rely on?
They've been studied...up the Whazoo, in fact. LSD since the early 60's, and botanicals ( shrooms, Cannibis) for thousands of years.
"Your sex addiction has been cured." OMG love the truth in that joke. He's probably right!
Michael Pollan is such a great messenger for this long overdue shift in our thinking about psychedelics.
loveeeeed it, the stuttering from Bill after :)
Psychedelics aren't 100% always positive but the way society see's them is so unbalanced and wrong psychedelics can be used as wonderful medicines that can change things about us it's a real blessing somebody like Michael pollan is getting the word out about these substances because we could use them to help a lot of people!!!!
I didn't have any clue that weed legalization would be followed by the destigmatization of psychedelics, but they're exactly what society needs right now. Microdosing is not a productivity thing, either. It's for creativity and being more at peace in the moment.
❤❤❤❤❤❤ this sooo much.
You all will be remembered as pioneers in the end to the war on drugs.
"If you have a prohibition, you can't regulate."
Powerful and obvious.
Wonderful interview!
Ok I'm deff not the only one who laughs til it hurts on shrooms:)
coffee, tea, beer, cigarettes, and sugar are temporary breaks from existential dread. So they're legal. Anything that might lead to a permanent disconnect from serving the corporate goal is not.
Doesn't that anti-capitalist $hit EVER get old? Ya know, corporations are chasing the same dollar you do, they're just _better at it!_
will crow .. hmm.. caffeine makes people more productive, so that doesn't make any sense. Also, capitalism is in tune with the competitive instincts of nature. Competitive innovation and work are required for a society to eat, prosper, and defend itself. But yeah, corporations are bad. Good luck with your anarchy. I hear Africa has some fun drugs and militias this time of year.
David Foster , you are a boring and complicit man David
nick cerasi LOL I've got news for ya, nicky... If you're not in prison, then SO ARE YOU! And the fact that you're here running your mouth means you're not in prison, so... LMAO
beautifully put
Talk was to short, need more people to understand the benefits of psychedelic drugs. Weed is getting legalized and now its time for shrooms and others.
Dean Winchester
All drugs should be legal and regulated.
@J Carver
Alcoholics and irresponsible users of alcohol cause problems not alcohol.
Joe Rogan has a two hour conversation with Michael. Check it out
love this one
the great Michael Pollan
Awesome!
Michael Pollan is totally awesome!
Great Great Great !
fascinating
fascinating that Michael went right for the touch of his wedding ring, when Bill asked if he had experienced revelation . therapeutic psychedelics are for most people a transformative and freeing treatment for soul and mind ailments.
I had to read all his books in college because my professor loved his literature on agriculture so much
In 1967 I was 13, I had a 18 year old friend who was an artist that I looked up to because I was an artist too. One day we met and smoked some pot and he offered me some LSD (orange micro dot) so I thought ok and bought 2 hits for $5, I figured I’d find a friend to take it with. On a Friday night I had a friend we were going to take it and go see a movie. Anyway after school he said he couldn’t go, so I decided to go alone.
I took one hit and went to the movies. After an hour or so I didn’t feel anything so I took the second one. Then after a few minutes I started coming on.., I spent the next 2 days in a complete hallucinating state, my mother was so frightened of me she had my brother lock me in my room. Alone in darkness I went into outer space. Late that night my father came home and after my mother had told him I was crazy, he came into my room and beat the shit out of me for having scared my mother. I spent the weekend locked in my room tripping into the cosmos... I saw all existence, and lost all time. Monday morning I had to go to school but when I looked in the mirror I saw I was all bruised up, I spent the next few days hiding in a park avoiding school. After that it was difficult being a 13 year old kid again when you had traveled the cosmos. I took psychedelics again after that, but it was never anywhere near the same experience. Life and all existence is an amazing thing, out of millions of sperm cells, I was the one that got thru to live it. everything that is, is life... be grateful you lived
JVS 3 wow man, sorry to hear your first acid trip was so rough. 13 is kind of young to do acid especially in the midst of a culture not open to such things. I'm glad that modern society is beginning to realise that children have rights too and that parents don't have the right to violate them.
Robert Henahan hey thanks for response. It was intense but I survived it. Never look at life the same after that.
JVS 3 Keep on truckin'
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People will look back at the prohibition of cannabis and psychedelics as a crime against humanity, and yet my Democratic senators in Illinois just told me "Marijuana needs more study" when I asked them to support legalization, as if the entire West Coast and other states haven't already legalized adult use. This is what corruption looks like, the party that supposedly champions the average American is fine with criminalizing their constituents over an herb that has killed no one and helped millions, all while alcohol is legal. #corptocracy
Kira Barsmith
Please sign me up for the next mushroom study🍄
And pharmaceuticals kill 100,000 people a year in the US, taken as prescribed.
Most sane people have always looked at prohibition that way, but yeah... You can tell them that by now marijuana is one of the most studied plants ever, we know what it does and what the dangers are. We know that prohibition is more dangerous than any drug. We know this. It's not up for debate. We know that we need to regulate it. Politicians should do what science tells us is the best course. How the ***** do they think they could possibly know better than you know... the experts?
And this goes for everything. But it's not just an American thing, it would be easy for me to be like "it's your religiosity" or something - but it's the exact same situation in my very atheist country. Science isn't respected. What's unique for America however is.. well how proud many of you are to be anti science :(
That cannabis has never killed anybody is a bit of a misnomer. Granted, you can't overdose on THC directly, but there _are_ conditions which marijuana can and _does_ exacerbate... Psychosis (obviously); Atrial Fibrillation, which _can_ kill you directly; Asthma, if it's severe enough; Pulmonary Edema; Congestive Heart Failure; The list goes on...
Oh, and just a note to the Medical Marijuana advocates... If weed were "medicine" I'd be the healthiest phukker on planet earth! As it is, I have at least two of the conditions listed above. I'll leave y'all to decide which...
Canada will fully legalize recreational marijuana on October 17th of this year. Dat's dat. Check it out if you don't believe me.
This was *such* a good panel.
When Michael says to Bill, "You didn't take enough," he doesn't mean Bill should have tripped more often, but rather that larger doses create vastly different experiences.
That’s last bit about micro dosing that it ended on was illuminating. But bill talking about laughing uncontrollably at everything, that’s accurate! Haha and it was maybe my favorite Maher moment ever when he was pleading “why would I make my penis bigger and put it into vagina” 😂😂 fuckin dying after that one!
Nice to see a segment that isn't just about about bashing Trump.
My 2 fav panelists based on their laughs are Neera Tanden and Van Jones :) very distinctive laughs
I think I love him
The most powerful experience I've had is like the one Mr. Pollan describes of his LSD "trip". But it occurred about 3 weeks after 13 weeks of boot camp and I had never taken any drugs, not pot. Some alcohol and cigarettes but nothing near excessive.
Eddie Panedi During a near death experience the brain produces DMT, which is one of the drugs the refer to.
During Watkins Glen I got a hold of some white Owlsy acid and it’s was one of the best experiences of my life, Orange Sunshine 2nd!!!
The name of this video reminds of something. Any politician who is anti-science or denies climate change should be disqualified from holding any public office in the United States of America. Period, bottom line.
Zachary Xavier do you know what irony is?
S.P.S. G.E. Of course lol
Zachary Xavier just checking... Lol
Rabdom... But... Did you go to u penn?
That was hysterical funny. Hilarious.
Magic mushrooms may have played a role in the evolution of human consciousness..
I'll attest to that! ;D
prolly why we tell ourselves the religious lies
I said "magic mushrooms *may* have played a role in the evolution of human consciousness". The theory is unproven, yet seemingly plausible. If there is some concrete evidence proving the "stoned ape theory" wrong, please link me to it so I can check it out.
Magic mushrooms can alter the consciousness of those consuming them (that's for sure), but whether that individuals expanded consciousness can than be passed down to offspring is unclear. Some mutations are hereditary, so it is not outside the realm of possibility. External factors, such as certain chemicals in the environment or even some foods, can mutate human DNA.
Lucky guess.
Will do, but you still have yet to debunk the "nonsense". You seem to assume I believe the stoned ape *theory* as if it is verifiable fact, but this is not necessarily the case as it has not been verified. This is why I'm asking to hear (read) your counterpoints against the stoned ape theory. Enlighten me bruh!
Mushrooms are conscious and direct and control their surroundings. Unless you don't believe in science, in which case mushrooms were born yesterday.
Yes Healing Goddess Plants YES!
Recreational pot is now legal nation wide in Canada.
Quantumese Boy nope. Not yet. Not till October.
Quantumese Boy Not to split hairs or anything, but just so nobody gets screwed, it has passed the House, Senate and Royal ascent, but won't be legal until October 18th, but c'mon up, folks. Hopefully this is an indicator that we are finally beginning to treat drug use as a Public Health issue and not a Criminal issue.
Canuckmom1958
Not to split even more hairs but the royal assent hasn't happened yet and its October 17.
Canuckmom 1958 Agreed. I think we will manage drug abuse much more effectively if we deal with it as a health issue, while continuing to educate people to avoid taking recreational drugs (probably alcohol too) because of the possible repercussions. It's key to provide social support for the underlying reasons why people take drugs to begin with, especially where drugs are likely to become a crutch. That's a societal problem. Taking advantage of the occasional recreational use of drugs and alcohol, however, is capitalistic opportunity. Making someone into a criminal because they have a few ounces of a weed on them is really stupid and a drain on society, both financially and morally.
Beth S
I agree with most of what you said but if someone is not using it as a crutch or excessively why shouldn't people use recreational drugs? Moderation is the key and just because some can't handle it or develop problems doesn't mean we should avoid drugs or alcohol.
"what would capitalism do with such a powerful psychedelic....microdosing". never thought of it that way but a really brilliant thought.
always honest
Bill is always get excited when they talk about drugs, I'll admit it I'm excited too because weed is my life now
Weed is great but it really shouldn't be your life.
Justin M I'm not trying to get people to use it for fun, what I meant is I used it to help with pain
Ranger alpha OK then. I understand the distinction you are making. But I think that is also the problem. People assume weed is just for fun, which I assumed by your comment. And it can be but it also has medicinal benefits. Probably most importantly medicinal benefits.
You've reminded me of a movie I saw as a kid, "Lorenzo's Oil". It was apparently based on a true story. Basic plot.... Couple has kid with some rare form of whatever.......drugs weren't helping......something in olive oil helped.....no one cared, big pharma wasn't interested.....they sold everything to fund research into this special version of olive oil to make their son at least feel a little better and it actually worked. From memory it was some form of autism or something that involved seizures. It broke my heart at the time. Which is probably why I now say research everything because you never know where it will lead.
Ranger alpha that's so sad. U need to "get a life "
mhuhoi0 ui huihih7, He didn't say anything about "grief", he said "pain". For all you know it could be physical pain. Ave Satan.
i haven't seen bill maher in like 7 years, and this was the first clip I saw since then? I'm fuckin dying over here
Taking .5 gram of mushrooms will give you giggles Bill is talking about
Ego death comes with about 3.5 g . crushing it up and drinking it with lemon juice will bring the effects on a lot quicker
we would powder ours and add it to a jar of Honey..that way it lasted longer, was portable and just needed a tea spoon to get you going '')
me and my friends eyeballed and ate roughly 3 ish grams of shroomies, right before a Flume concert, walked to the stage, the world was collapsing and everything was looking like erupting lava, from people faces, ground, trees etc. we walk back to our tents 10 mins later, sleep in a foetal position and listen to the whole set for the next 2 hours in our tents lol sad that we didnt see it, but i feel it was the best live concert i ever had and that too with our eyes closed.
Where do u get mushrooms? I have not done them on 25 years and I know nobody who has them! Can u order them now?
Tara Livesey Where are you from?
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit doing mushrooms.
Why are you everywhere? I think I saw a comment of yours on a "The Weekly" video from ABC Australia just the other day.
New Message I've never done shrooms before and don't intend to either but just out of curiosity, what made you want to quit?
New Message will I become good at math if I take some.
HAHAHAHA Its a joke from the Airplane movies. "Welp looks like I choose the wrong week to stop smoking..... Looks like I choose the wrong week to stop drinking. Looks like I chose the wrong week to stop taking amphetamines. sniffing glue...."
Google :"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking"...:
That last comment about microdosing and capitalism is profound
It's cute and sad that Bill knows absolutely nothing about LSD.
For meeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Bill Maher certainly diddled the dose.
bill clearly didn't understand when pollan told him he didn't take enough... he meant in a single dose, not that he hadn't taken mushrooms enough times.
I had the 'ego disillusionment experience' happen with cannabis. I made a match of brownies using over 20g of quality weed. First time I ever made an edible, and it was in the 80s, so I didn't know much about it. My buddy and I ate one brownie each. Nothing happened, so I started munching. I encouraged my friend to eat more, but he didn't like the taste. I ended up eating the entire batch. I got so fucking high I remember it well 30 years later. I was able to 'self examine' my character without negative emotion. All my hang-ups just went away. I don't think I've ever been higher, except maybe that time we did 3 hits of bladder acid each.
I had a really bad trip one time . I was being chased by little dill pickles while I was naked and running for my life. The whole world had a green tint to it, like I was inside a jar of pickles looking out. That shit fucked me up, I'll never eat pickles again.
I'v always loved shrooms. A cosmic not a carnal experience.
LSD, God's gift to Psychiatry.
tongue-in-cheek
the ergot fungus has been secreting lsd as a waste by-product for thousands if not millions of years before we climbed out of the trees and invented god.
Religion is a lot like Science Fiction. Science fiction inspired submarines, cell phones, robots, self driving cars, 3d printers, nuclear power, before any of that stuff actually existed. So if there isn't a divine being yet with miraculous powers, there will be.
What he describes is exactly what eckhart tolle’s awakenings experience, the ego died
Understanding how the psychedelics work to help people is easy and physical. They create new temporary interneuronal synapse connections giving our brain a wiring upgrade of inter connectivity giving us new perspectives on our experiences and also on our memories. It's literally seeing everything through new and multiple perspectives. The psychedelics (and weed) have the reputation of being creativity enhancers but they're actually enhancing our empathy with new mental perspectives. And thanks to normal learning / neuroplasticity, we all including PTSD, etc sufferers can make some of those temporary connections permanent quite literally re-wiring our brains/learning better ways with a little help from serotonin.
I wish Bill took this as serious as the book actually is instead of offering useless anecdotes about his personal experience with psychedelics. Obviously Bill is extremely busy and doesn't have time to read every book from every guest, but if he had he would find that this is one of the first serious dives into the mainstream for psychedelics in an attempt to legitimize them. A major point of it being to take the drugs serious and not in some stereotypical party fashion.
Chocolate also contains theobromine, which is a stimulant like caffeine is a stimulant. So yes, chocolate does change a person's sense of reality. Most of us still love chocolate, talking of which, I have chocolate in the cupboard, so I'm getting some right now.
Michael Pollan!!!!!!
Damn, that last thought about capitalizing (and bastardizing) psychedelics is depressing _as hell_
Why is it depressing. Microdosing is a tool just like a full blown psychedelic experience. It is neither good nor bad. It depends on every individual what he is working on while on a microdose. It can very well be a startup in the silicon valley that offers a service that makes peoples life easier. People who work on blockchain certainly use microdosing and they are moving society in a direction that will disrupt banks, major energy enterprise companies and government through decentralization.
Excellent point about microdosing. "What would capitalism do with psychedelics? They'd turning into another productivity drug to make you a better cog in the machine."
Which brings me to the question:
Would a drug that makes people smarter get banned ?
Depends how much money can be made off of it. And who owns it.
We should experience drugs much like we experience museums. Safe, stimulated and contextual.
This was waaaaay too short of a conversation, should've had Michael Pollan as the first guest with a longer chat. Michael has had some longer conversations on Waking Up, Joe Rogan Experience, and London Real among others that go more in-depth.
5:24 Pollan: “There was another ‘I’ that suddenly manifested....”
I honestly think that's the only way I'd do intense psychedelics.
You can also read the Bhagavad-Gita...
#GreenParty Also holy shit that ending.
Damn what he said about the mob was a bummer
What a fungi!
..I mean, what a fun guy!
If Bill doesn't understand Chocolate as a mind-altering drug, he should ask a woman with depression.
Bill, drugs affect people differently.
How do I do this guided trip? Who do I call?
Can pay for it. Ketamine is more available. Albeit really expensive.
bruh he was about to go into the deepest part of his revelation and bill interrupts him
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I agree about sexual drive on psychedelics - I’ve known some people that love sex on acid or mushrooms but that is far from my mind on a trip.
So great to hear bill talk about his 🍄 experience. Tim Farris says that all the billionaires he knows micro dose
Eddie Panedi Sorry but there's no "true purpose to life" and anyone who says otherwise is either full of shit or trying to sell you something. The universe doesn't care whether you achieve "spiritual enlightenment" in your old age or whether you die as a teenager in a car accident. At the end of the day there's only life and whatever meaning you make up for yourself.
occupynewparadigm Simulation theory is far from accepted as fact...you can choose to believe it if you want, like people believe in God and heaven, but that doesn't make it a reality. Just because there's order to the universe doesn't imply that it's a computer simulation written by aliens...
beruga This doesn't make life less valid. This actually give us more meaning. Someone or thing wants us here.
occupynewparadigm There's no evidence of "someone or thing" wanting us here. That's your futile attempt to find meaning in a cold, uncaring universe. Just because you want to believe it doesn't make it true.
From a biological perspective, our purpose is to survive and reproduce. Natural selection doesn't care if you're enlightened when you do this or not. Now if you look from a higher level, at Chemistry or Physics, then matter and energy does not care whether you survive or reproduce or not. At these levels, there is no meaning to existence whatsoever. Personally, I don't find this to be depressing. The sooner we as a species accept this fact, the sooner we can start taking care of one another and appreciating life in the here and now, rather than praying for some make believe afterlife utopia.
Please have Dennis McKenna on! Pretty please!
Vikrant Subakade , he's dead, y'know.
Wolf Face no. Terence is. Not Dennis.
Right, my mistake. Cheers.
While the effects certainly depend on dose, they also depend on someone's state of mind prior to. People who have dissolved some aspects of their ego already through meditation may not experience such a strong "ego death", as meditation is a way to open the mind and perceptions without drugs. I also think being a comedian might be why Bill says he just can't stop laughing when on shrooms, as a true comedian's state of mind has to be without at least some measure of ego in order to perceive and joke as comedians do.
I have done magic mushrooms and LSD and i approve their message.
Smoked with pot is different. No grins.
Last trip I had I was working levitation fest a few months ago selling merch. Ate so many shrooms.
Haha, good to know I’m not weird for not wanting sex when I’m tripping balls 🤣🤣🖖
He claims there hasn't ever really been the real acid since the 50s or whatever when the original guy died, but I did some as a teenager around 2006 and I know for damn sure I had the exact typical experiences of ego death and all the other typical things people say about the effects of acid
Mushrooms actually does cause horniness during the offset of the trip for many people. IME mushrooms is one of the few drugs that actually leads to authentic states of arousal.
About microdosing:
As psychedelics build up a tolerance, even high doses would become microdosing in a matter of time, if taken daily.
But microdosing is amazing, because it is a very mild usage of psychedelics. It just makes you fall in love with some silly thoughts.
To me psychedelics make me feel like I am a child again and I am acting how a human would be if there was no violence.
Actually what was missed was that Bill's laughing at everything being absurd is part of losing your attachment to ego. Bill was seeing the folly of what appears to be normal everyday "us". So Michael and Bill were actually on the same page. Michael just took it a step further in his experience. He went beyond just laughing at it.
I don't see Bill as being superficial at all. Not the slightest. You should watch him in other venues than comedy. Also, I did the psychedelics. The first phase was total laughter. Depending on the circumstances and who I was with I went all the way to Buddha. But the laughter was just as much a part of it as all of it. True laughter is God.. And I'm only using religious terms as emphasis.
If we forget microdosing for a minute, there has been many good studies about psychedelics and creativity. Oscar Janiger's 'LSD, Spirituality and the Creative Process' is certainly great. For many of these same exact points, especially about psychedelics and capitalism, check out this 22 year old interview: th-cam.com/video/uow__z3Qo8c/w-d-xo.html&
Isn't admitting on live television that you do drugs illegal?
Nope. Admitting to the cops in person is not illegal either. And furthermore, Bill Mayer has smoked weed on air live on HBO with actor Zach Galifinakis.
I am from San Francisco having lived there during the time of the Height and the Mafia was not involved in Acid to any degree, greed and human stupidity was the culprit due to the mass of people who were involved. I've written about it on Amazon in the book "A Suspicious LIfe" by Dwight Frost
I started my life in Oakland and moved to Hayward at ten, at twenty-one moved to Sausalito after making enough selling mostly Acid to afford it so I do know what I speak of, I even had some made at Berkeley University by an assistant professor only one gram that equals many doses, it is too early and to long ago to remember the conversion I think that was several thousand hits, sorry. If you were there do you remember a Jack Frost, my step-brother who started me down the road to selling and later brought Egotomine tartrate to the country, a kilo to be exact, again I've tried to write about it and, oh ya, thanks for replying.
Some people are not able to internalize things properly, especially psychedelics. Bill is obviously not capable enough of drawing a true experience
No Bill, what he's saying is the amount you took was too little...not how many times you tried it.
Heroic or shamanic doses are what he's implying.
Next time try a whole 1/4 ounce powdered up in a bean grinder, downed with a large glass of orange juice.
I really would love to run into some shrooms. Tis been a while.
LSD does not require shutting down or stimulating the senses. Music alone with breath work will generate a change in conciousness without LSD. LSD should be experienced in a safe tranquil outdoor setting with a friend. My first LSD trip was astonishing. Completely changed my reality in a good way.
I think Michael should of included studies of how psychedelics help people who suffers cluster headaches and migraines in his book. The traditional medicine's used to treat them have bad side affects and are less effective.
Eddie Panedi that's interesting, but I don't think your mom had what I am talking about. Google cluster headaches , I'm trying to bring more awareness to this problem which is most likely a genetic disease.
Plants/ fungus are nature. Nature is "God". So why doesn't the religious right embrace them.
Oh, that's right. Nevermind.
Eddie Panedi I agree. All living things have a spirit. Or whatever metaphor you want use.
Religion corrupts the spirit of all things.
Peace to you my friend
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