I'm always using wrist wrench with multispinner and what I realize is that. The wrist wrench gives a lot of strenght and power to the hand. The wrist wrench gives arm wrestling power. The multispinner is teaching you how to use that power on certain angles and with the table time. You can become very strong and technical arm wrestler. Thank you for all these videos. Have a nice day, brother. 👊
Wrist wrenches feel much more like holding onto a hand, and (in my case) actually feel more comfortable to hold onto too. Rolling handles dig into one point too much, whereas with a wrist wrench it feels like the pressure is more spread out through the whole hand/fingers
Finally broke down and made a wrist wrench. I love it! Feels just like someone trying to twist your fingers open. Im hanging up my fat grip rolling handle for a while. THANK YOU
Chris, I use the D handle with a fat grip from proper angles to supplement wrist curls for my cup (focused wrist work) and I use the wrist wrench anytime I want to incorporate any hand/finger pressure. I view the D handle as superior for focused wrist strength work because a wrist wrench moves the primary point of failure to the hand/fingers. Obviously hand/finger strength is massively important part of the program too, but do you agree with this thought process, because I view my D handle work as important for wrist/cup, and not just more convenient than the wrench.
If the vector is parallel to the forearm then the wrist wrench makes it very finger-heavy. But when your wrist is already bent and you’re doing vector work you won’t feel that much isolated finger pressure but there will still be rotation trying to open the whole hand and wrist together.
I was wondering exactly that. Sounds like the wrench is just better because it works the relevant chain (fingers/hand/wrist) properly. In your strength standards video you said Mazurenko strength is highly relevant but that there are better ways to develop that that strength than using the actual Mazurenko handle. Is the wrist wrench just tool for that, or will you maybe cover that in another video? Your content is absolutely a treasure, and literally the first place I will send anyone who is interested in learning. Thanks.
It’s fine as long as the direction is right. If you’re going to do it you have to straighten out eve try rep. Lots of people half-ass the reps and lose most of the benefit.
Hi Chris, Could you explain how you organised your periodisation with arwrestling training (speed day, volume day and max effort day; foundamentals) and overall strength training (bench, elbow flexors, pull ups,etc.) pls? I don't know if it's appropriate to ask the question here. If not I apologise in advance. Thx for the tips and your content overall.
The different days are just part of the conjugate philosophy. Basically all volume work is about bringing up specific weaknesses that hold back your 1rms - not spending time working on things that are already strong. I don’t do that much overall training during normal weekly work, just presses and rows on the day after speed day. I’ve got other videos talking about conjugate and other training methods.
@@ChrisDrummondAW finger pressure like the mazurenko handle are really good to control the other opponents hand. I think finger pressure is a must too, i beat opponents by hand control.
@@ChrisDrummondAW so will using a thick rolling handle generally be enough more or less? With the wristmax or wrist wrench just as an addition or supplementary.
Love your channel! Today was the first time i did the actual rising lift, like you and devon do it. Ive only been doing some dynamic isolated wrist rise to develop some of that musculature. I worked up to 66lbs/30kg as my 1rm. Wrist held up really well. Im a 194lbs guy rn, is that a decent lift?
@@ChrisDrummondAW thx, ye i know. Just wanted to share as im happy about it plus the video strength standards dont really take into account weight classes. But ye im sure ill get to 35 within several months as i only just started training this lift and generally never took rising very seriously. But it may actually be one of my strengths.
Hi sir. For a Hook armwrestler, can the cone puller replace the wrist wrench for all vectors (high and low cable attachment) since my goal is to primarily strengthen the lower fingers?
I don’t like it with the strap on the hand. Puts the pressure from the wrench in a weird spot if the strap is tight enough to make a difference with grip (which I think is a negative anyway) and if it’s not that tight then it’s meaningless. It also gets in the way of my thumb.
@@ChrisDrummondAW ya thats kinda my take too. I did try my buddies strapped wrist wrench today at the gym just to see. It did give me more of a forearm /wrist pump than the more finger pressures. I think for strapped arm wrestling it may have some benefits but not too sure
I'm always using wrist wrench with multispinner and what I realize is that. The wrist wrench gives a lot of strenght and power to the hand. The wrist wrench gives arm wrestling power. The multispinner is teaching you how to use that power on certain angles and with the table time. You can become very strong and technical arm wrestler. Thank you for all these videos. Have a nice day, brother. 👊
Wrist wrenches feel much more like holding onto a hand, and (in my case) actually feel more comfortable to hold onto too. Rolling handles dig into one point too much, whereas with a wrist wrench it feels like the pressure is more spread out through the whole hand/fingers
Very helpful. My main takeaway was "if you have two, two and a half inches, you can use it for absolutely anything". 😜 11:27
Beard and hair looking great
Finally broke down and made a wrist wrench. I love it! Feels just like someone trying to twist your fingers open. Im hanging up my fat grip rolling handle for a while.
THANK YOU
Awesome content, thank you for that. Could you do one for the multispinner and talk about the uses and benefits of the high wrap vs low wrap?
Chris, I use the D handle with a fat grip from proper angles to supplement wrist curls for my cup (focused wrist work) and I use the wrist wrench anytime I want to incorporate any hand/finger pressure. I view the D handle as superior for focused wrist strength work because a wrist wrench moves the primary point of failure to the hand/fingers. Obviously hand/finger strength is massively important part of the program too, but do you agree with this thought process, because I view my D handle work as important for wrist/cup, and not just more convenient than the wrench.
If the vector is parallel to the forearm then the wrist wrench makes it very finger-heavy. But when your wrist is already bent and you’re doing vector work you won’t feel that much isolated finger pressure but there will still be rotation trying to open the whole hand and wrist together.
I was wondering exactly that. Sounds like the wrench is just better because it works the relevant chain (fingers/hand/wrist) properly. In your strength standards video you said Mazurenko strength is highly relevant but that there are better ways to develop that that strength than using the actual Mazurenko handle. Is the wrist wrench just tool for that, or will you maybe cover that in another video? Your content is absolutely a treasure, and literally the first place I will send anyone who is interested in learning. Thanks.
@@darth_pronator I love regular decline dumbbell curls as my primary cup movement but I use wrist wrenches for vector work and isometrics a lot.
Thanks!
right on point, i also had the same problem as a beginner, didnt roll the wrist wrench properly. btw, this beard looks really cool man
Good point about the variation of starting cupped in with a wrist wrench. Never thought about it like that.
Amazing video quality
Great tip with doing lifts with a flexed wrist
Great information! Thank you!
Ottimo video molto interessante! 💪🏻
You look like Levan here😂💪🏿
I was literally just thinking about this yesterday- thanks!
Awesome, thanks! I've been doing way too much Cupping with a rolling handle!
It’s fine as long as the direction is right. If you’re going to do it you have to straighten out eve try rep. Lots of people half-ass the reps and lose most of the benefit.
@@ChrisDrummondAW ok thanks a lot! :)
Hi Chris,
Could you explain how you organised your periodisation with arwrestling training (speed day, volume day and max effort day; foundamentals) and overall strength training (bench, elbow flexors, pull ups,etc.) pls?
I don't know if it's appropriate to ask the question here. If not I apologise in advance.
Thx for the tips and your content overall.
The different days are just part of the conjugate philosophy. Basically all volume work is about bringing up specific weaknesses that hold back your 1rms - not spending time working on things that are already strong. I don’t do that much overall training during normal weekly work, just presses and rows on the day after speed day. I’ve got other videos talking about conjugate and other training methods.
@@ChrisDrummondAW thx for the quick answer !
Is there any reason to buy a roling handle ?
Are handles like gripzilla silicon hand good for armwrestling?
Honestly? No. Very limited use case. I have the artarm and never use them.
@@ChrisDrummondAW finger pressure like the mazurenko handle are really good to control the other opponents hand. I think finger pressure is a must too, i beat opponents by hand control.
Thoughts on eccentric handle vs. wristmax for cupping strength to counter toprollers?
I’ve never used a wristmax. However I think the concept of emphasizing fingertip pressure is overrated.
@@ChrisDrummondAW so will using a thick rolling handle generally be enough more or less? With the wristmax or wrist wrench just as an addition or supplementary.
@@christopherjohnblack3526 I think a thick rolling handle is generally a poor choice. Wrist wrenches are better in virtually all situations.
I have the same wrist wrench 💪
Love your channel! Today was the first time i did the actual rising lift, like you and devon do it. Ive only been doing some dynamic isolated wrist rise to develop some of that musculature. I worked up to 66lbs/30kg as my 1rm. Wrist held up really well. Im a 194lbs guy rn, is that a decent lift?
Made a whole video on strength standards, check it out. 30kg is decent but you’re going to want more to be competitive in pro classes.
@@ChrisDrummondAW thx, ye i know. Just wanted to share as im happy about it plus the video strength standards dont really take into account weight classes. But ye im sure ill get to 35 within several months as i only just started training this lift and generally never took rising very seriously. But it may actually be one of my strengths.
Can i ask you what is your rm whit 2.25 inch rollino handle,only wrist flexion.
I didn't see on the cmvideo with standard strenght.
My max is 46 kg
I have never done and would not do a wrist flexion 1rm with a rolling handle.
Hi sir.
For a Hook armwrestler, can the cone puller replace the wrist wrench for all vectors (high and low cable attachment) since my goal is to primarily strengthen the lower fingers?
No, they’re not similar handles. If your goal to strengthen the lower two fingers then do that in isolation, not for vector work.
@@ChrisDrummondAW I see. Thank you sir.
Whats your take on the standard wrist wrench vs wrist wrench with a strapped hand?
I don’t like it with the strap on the hand. Puts the pressure from the wrench in a weird spot if the strap is tight enough to make a difference with grip (which I think is a negative anyway) and if it’s not that tight then it’s meaningless. It also gets in the way of my thumb.
@@ChrisDrummondAW ya thats kinda my take too. I did try my buddies strapped wrist wrench today at the gym just to see. It did give me more of a forearm /wrist pump than the more finger pressures. I think for strapped arm wrestling it may have some benefits but not too sure
How do you feel about multi spinner work? I'm thinking about making one is it worth it
Excellent tool. Don’t make a big one like Devon. Make a small one you can grip.
@@ChrisDrummondAW yeah I'll probably make it a two inch just like my main wrist wrench
Don’t even know who you are with that beard lol
I’m me