Coming from a third-year arm wrestler, any heavy shoulder work, you're going to need more time between before you hit that again. Same thing with any heavy elbow flexor work. Isolation helps with over training. Also eat a ton of protein. This really helps with recovery. Especially with pain. Take a few days off if you're in pain. If that doesn't help, then take 2 weeks off with zero gym or table time. If that doesn't work, you need an MRI.
One of the biggest reasons people grow so hard on PEDS, is simply much faster muscle recovery time. With a high enough dose, you can pretty much train to failure every single day. As a natty... you will need rest for sure. Especially, as you grow older. Diet and sleep obviously also play a huge role, go higher in protein and omega3 fats. If you get a disease or even a cold. Muscle recovery will be slower. This is not just from my experience, but also research.
this is so important. I wish this could be explained very specifically. Recovery is one thing I've never gotten better at because I'm so stubborn about pushing myself to my limits and, like they said, I end up injured, getting weaker, or plateauing and never seeing any improvement. Because I want to be a ninja, I want everything. I want to be fast, strong, flexible, enduring, etc so i want to go hard on my legs and hard on my arms and hard on my abs and hard on my lats etc... but in one week it's a LOT of stuff that it is so draining and taxing that I don't improve. I try to cram it all into a block and I try to make it give me everything. Like explosive deadlifts so i can jump higher and super heavy squats to assist. I'm training the speed, the strength all on the same day etc. I don't know how to regulate the training so that i make progress instead of just overloading myself. How can i get stronger and better at everything at the same time? How much do I need to do? How can my CNS recover if I have to do a diff body part every day? It's very confusing but this is really important to figure out right now so i can do it in a way that works.
U can work out everyday if you're on GEAR and not maxing heavy loads, which is what Devon does. He basically does crazy volume and PEDs help with recovery. Other people trying to immitate this find benefits only to a certain extent but will probably harm themselves if pushing it to the extreme.
@@Coco.Bakting14 so by that you mean blocks of varying intensity workouts over a month or 2? I always hear that in one block you'll be doing strength, in another hypertrophy, in another endurance or explosiveness etc but that you'll never be able to have all of those attributes at the same time. That you can never train for everything at the same time. Is this how you experience it too?
Nutrition is huge when it comes to developing strength. Unless you give your body the building blocks it needs to recover, you will not get stronger and may actually get weaker.
Radio silence. It's a shame Ray, I liked you a lot for being the funniest and most charismatic dude on armwrestling. Even Devon came straight, and apologiezed, and I wasn't expecting him to do it. You should do the same, man. Best of luck from now on
You have nice t shirts for sale. How about traini g tools? Handles, straps, cable attachments. If you dont want to sell them how about making a video on where to buy training tools. Sometimes when you google search, you only get just a few common ones.
Sandris is awesome and one of my favorites to watch. Now he knows what it’s like to go against a top-five opponent. Now he can train for it. He’s not even 30 yet lol. The future is huge for the kid. I would love to see him and Corey West next.
@@jaegerschtulmann Corey is 450 lbs, in his weight division Corey isn't sht. Why compare HW to SHW. And I wouldn't necessarily even gurantee Corey winning either. Plus he's like 35 or smthn
@@astwas I wouldn’t guarantee Cory winning either, but it’s a east versus west match. So who else should Sandris pull then to represent the west? I was just thinking of a very interesting match that people would be happy to pay for to watch.
I used to climb cell towers everyday, did it for about 12 years and would pull and lift heavy equipment throughout my shift, and would sometimes hit the gym afterwards. Construction workers use a sledgehammer everyday, lineman pull cable everyday... I believe arm wrestlers can train everyday just not lift super heavy (PR) style everyday.
What if you dont want to do table training and just want wrist strength and endurance? How often can you train your wrist muscles at the gym per week? Anyone knows?
so one specific question, if we pull once a week , should we also have a separate max day with the weights? because when we pull we do max effort almost always
Simply put, training with weights should always be supplemental to your style. Whatever gets trained a lot with table time, should have some pump work later in the week. I do a lot of lowhand so I don't really train biceps for strength that much, I just do 2 sets of 30 reps with light weight to pump my biceps for solid recovery. I train my triceps for strenght since I don't use them much in practice but need to improve my press when and if I need to transition to finish. I do sets of 6-8 reps for triceps.
It really sucks that people who I really respected in the Arm Wrestling community would outright lie and deceive the fans in this way. I am a huge fan of Devon and watch almost every episode of the fix with Neil. But if these matches happened weeks ago then everyone involved should be blacklisted from arm wrestling events for a long while. It is the way it was promoted with outright lies and deception. I still have hope that it happened more recently. The first person who comes forward and tells the truth will come out looking the best.
Its not on the athletes, they sign contracts that im sure include nda clauses to not disclose the info so they can't say anything. Its on the promoters. And they have instead doubled down on the lies and called people "conspiracy theorists" instead of having integrity and being honest. Want to make your voice heard? Unsubscribe to Arm Wars and Neil because thats obviously all he cares about is memberships and subscriptions and not the sport itself or the community that supports him. Its shameful honestly.
@@allanbrunelle I agree that Neil is the biggest scumbag in all of this but others also purposefully lied to everyone. Ray and Janis did a sort of prediction show where they claimed to be heading to the UK in a couple days. I just don't get why. Devon arm wrestling will sell without all the con efforts.
At least Devon had the courage to apologize and admit that deceiving the community wasn't the brightest idea. Neil on the other hand, seems prepared to go down with the ship.
Don't train arm wrestling everyday unless you want to damage your arms , arm wrestling is fun but its a shitty sport because of the injuries not to mention your strength workouts are also affected and your left with shitty pains in your arms / only way to do it probably is if you train only armwrestling with light weight and one table practice a week maybe then even so you can still damage your tendons if you arm wrestle someone stronger
Main problem of this video that is no example of %, or weight that you need to do. Only just words "Dont overtrain". For me this vid have no reason to watch
Beerman blew their cover in his message during Neil Pickup's live show today. Devon missed his wedding in Ireland 3 weeks ago to teach Sandris how to arm wrestle during the "Dark Card".
Man I need help I have been training for 4 months armbwrestling and the forearm, 3 months ago I had a bigger forearm only when I was flexing, Now I trained the forearm for 3 months and still didn't make much progress, I need help to make it bigger
Mannnn don't be upset just train your forearms 3 times per week.Rest is key ok if you are not getting them rested it will never recover and when it never recover it will never grow just give sometime to rest and recovery okkk❤❤❤
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Coming from a third-year arm wrestler, any heavy shoulder work, you're going to need more time between before you hit that again. Same thing with any heavy elbow flexor work. Isolation helps with over training. Also eat a ton of protein. This really helps with recovery. Especially with pain. Take a few days off if you're in pain. If that doesn't help, then take 2 weeks off with zero gym or table time. If that doesn't work, you need an MRI.
Agreed
Yes . i train 3 times a day . depend on what / how / what weight / intensity and so on
How often do you max out on any given lift?
@@robertgould9641 these days . Never 😅. Got to many injuries from that
Correct. I do the same. Just gotta listen to your body 🤷♀️
Great explanation. It's not about how much work you can do, it's about how much work you can recover from.
One of the biggest reasons people grow so hard on PEDS, is simply much faster muscle recovery time. With a high enough dose, you can pretty much train to failure every single day. As a natty... you will need rest for sure. Especially, as you grow older. Diet and sleep obviously also play a huge role, go higher in protein and omega3 fats. If you get a disease or even a cold. Muscle recovery will be slower. This is not just from my experience, but also research.
You guys are excellent actors! Hahahaha
why
this is so important. I wish this could be explained very specifically. Recovery is one thing I've never gotten better at because I'm so stubborn about pushing myself to my limits and, like they said, I end up injured, getting weaker, or plateauing and never seeing any improvement. Because I want to be a ninja, I want everything. I want to be fast, strong, flexible, enduring, etc so i want to go hard on my legs and hard on my arms and hard on my abs and hard on my lats etc... but in one week it's a LOT of stuff that it is so draining and taxing that I don't improve. I try to cram it all into a block and I try to make it give me everything. Like explosive deadlifts so i can jump higher and super heavy squats to assist. I'm training the speed, the strength all on the same day etc. I don't know how to regulate the training so that i make progress instead of just overloading myself. How can i get stronger and better at everything at the same time? How much do I need to do? How can my CNS recover if I have to do a diff body part every day? It's very confusing but this is really important to figure out right now so i can do it in a way that works.
Do some research bro.. I apply the conjugate system and it works best for me.
U can work out everyday if you're on GEAR and not maxing heavy loads, which is what Devon does.
He basically does crazy volume and PEDs help with recovery.
Other people trying to immitate this find benefits only to a certain extent but will probably harm themselves if pushing it to the extreme.
@@Coco.Bakting14 so by that you mean blocks of varying intensity workouts over a month or 2? I always hear that in one block you'll be doing strength, in another hypertrophy, in another endurance or explosiveness etc but that you'll never be able to have all of those attributes at the same time. That you can never train for everything at the same time. Is this how you experience it too?
I just love these guys ty for all this advice Janis, Ray - keep shufflin the metal !
Nutrition is huge when it comes to developing strength. Unless you give your body the building blocks it needs to recover, you will not get stronger and may actually get weaker.
Gents, no comments on your countrymen’s destruction? When did the fight happen?
Poor ray got destroyed too
Surely they'll do a separate vid for that?
for me i added 3-5kg each week to my exercises to see if I'm on progress and it works perfectly and seeing results
Is it really effective?
@PhátTấn-t3c it is but try lighter weight not 5 add 2-3 its perfect
@@MMCHAD every day?
@@PhátTấn-t3c each week
So many different exercises to choose from; keeping the body confused is key for me
Very informative! Maybe this information will help my results!
Best of luck!
@@voiceofarmwrestling when did the arm wars event take place?
@@voiceofarmwrestling Why did you bs your audience? Cant keep ducking forever
@@voiceofarmwrestling CONGRATS, You're a good actor- maybe you should join the WWE
Radio silence. It's a shame Ray, I liked you a lot for being the funniest and most charismatic dude on armwrestling. Even Devon came straight, and apologiezed, and I wasn't expecting him to do it. You should do the same, man. Best of luck from now on
Janis is a good honest guy, I’m sure he doesn’t want to be involved in such deception
Ray did the match happen 3 weeks ago?
Already back home from UK?
LOL !!!
You have nice t shirts for sale. How about traini g tools? Handles, straps, cable attachments. If you dont want to sell them how about making a video on where to buy training tools. Sometimes when you google search, you only get just a few common ones.
Neil "3 weeks ago" Pickup
Pick-up line: Neil in 3 weeks😅
Very interesting information. Thanks a lot.
recently developed some issues in my wrist tendons due to over training i believe. wrist tendonitis i think
edit: taking awhile to heal and it sucks
Same here, NEVER train everyday, and get at least 2-3 mins rest between sets, dont go to failure, avoid overly high volume
Listen to you’re body!
Sandris is awesome and one of my favorites to watch. Now he knows what it’s like to go against a top-five opponent. Now he can train for it. He’s not even 30 yet lol. The future is huge for the kid. I would love to see him and Corey West next.
Love Sandris but Corey would kill him in a hook right now, he needs to get bigger, he has the frame!
@@jaegerschtulmann Corey is 450 lbs, in his weight division Corey isn't sht. Why compare HW to SHW. And I wouldn't necessarily even gurantee Corey winning either.
Plus he's like 35 or smthn
@@astwas I wouldn’t guarantee Cory winning either, but it’s a east versus west match. So who else should Sandris pull then to represent the west? I was just thinking of a very interesting match that people would be happy to pay for to watch.
@@jaegerschtulmann it’s crazy how good he is and how young he is right now.
Imo Sandris is somewhere in the 20-25 in the world overall (as well as top 5 for 115kg). It’s hard to say…. But I’d bet he’s top 30 imo 🙂
When did the Sandris v Devon match actually happen??
UP we all want to know!
Everyone is super hush hush looks very suspicious
@@kyleMcQuinn90 making it look so much worse by ignoring it.
It happened shortly after the Arm gods event so over 2 weeks ago now.
Three weeks ago. Kind of weird they did that and then Neil got everyone to buy it and sign up subscriptions. One big trick lol.
How was yalls trip 😜
LOL
Awesome 👏 ❤❤❤
I work out if I feel okay. If I dont, then I dont.
Cringe
Very interesting idea
I once did, and i stress fractured my forearms. Still haven’t recovered 😢. Remember to rest guys
Yes, NEVER train everyday
Intense training everyday and table time on school and a week kr two rest bwfore competition
Janis spits pure facts
It's easy, you can if you lower the volume low enough
was this video filmed 3 months ago?
I used to climb cell towers everyday, did it for about 12 years and would pull and lift heavy equipment throughout my shift, and would sometimes hit the gym afterwards. Construction workers use a sledgehammer everyday, lineman pull cable everyday... I believe arm wrestlers can train everyday just not lift super heavy (PR) style everyday.
What if you dont want to do table training and just want wrist strength and endurance?
How often can you train your wrist muscles at the gym per week?
Anyone knows?
Good afternoon boys hope all is well
I have elbow and beraichialis? Pain
so one specific question, if we pull once a week , should we also have a separate max day with the weights? because when we pull we do max effort almost always
Simply put, training with weights should always be supplemental to your style. Whatever gets trained a lot with table time, should have some pump work later in the week. I do a lot of lowhand so I don't really train biceps for strength that much, I just do 2 sets of 30 reps with light weight to pump my biceps for solid recovery. I train my triceps for strenght since I don't use them much in practice but need to improve my press when and if I need to transition to finish. I do sets of 6-8 reps for triceps.
Shenanigans.
It really sucks that people who I really respected in the Arm Wrestling community would outright lie and deceive the fans in this way. I am a huge fan of Devon and watch almost every episode of the fix with Neil. But if these matches happened weeks ago then everyone involved should be blacklisted from arm wrestling events for a long while. It is the way it was promoted with outright lies and deception. I still have hope that it happened more recently. The first person who comes forward and tells the truth will come out looking the best.
Its not on the athletes, they sign contracts that im sure include nda clauses to not disclose the info so they can't say anything. Its on the promoters. And they have instead doubled down on the lies and called people "conspiracy theorists" instead of having integrity and being honest. Want to make your voice heard? Unsubscribe to Arm Wars and Neil because thats obviously all he cares about is memberships and subscriptions and not the sport itself or the community that supports him. Its shameful honestly.
@@allanbrunelle I agree that Neil is the biggest scumbag in all of this but others also purposefully lied to everyone. Ray and Janis did a sort of prediction show where they claimed to be heading to the UK in a couple days. I just don't get why. Devon arm wrestling will sell without all the con efforts.
Totally agree. Its the lying and fake build up thats disgusting. Nobody gonna trust these mopes again
🤡Con-manager and con-artists
At least Devon had the courage to apologize and admit that deceiving the community wasn't the brightest idea. Neil on the other hand, seems prepared to go down with the ship.
I’m not a Armwrestling expert..but the most effective way to gain strength & muscle is overload in periodization...
Can you explain pls
The guy on the right looks like andrei chikatilo...
Nice
Camera looks good.
Yes
When should we do table practice
Like only once a week?
i trained everyday im 40 but compared to my 20s and 30s im stronger now😊
Can anyone suggest me a timeline for arm wrestling workout
Yes if u r like devon.
2 or 3 times week is best
I don't, I struggle to recover if I do
Yesss
Why do you all pretend Devons with Sandris match wasnt weeks ago? You literally faked a build up you phonies
Bottom line listen to your body
Don't train arm wrestling everyday unless you want to damage your arms , arm wrestling is fun but its a shitty sport because of the injuries not to mention your strength workouts are also affected and your left with shitty pains in your arms / only way to do it probably is if you train only armwrestling with light weight and one table practice a week maybe then even so you can still damage your tendons if you arm wrestle someone stronger
Main problem of this video that is no example of %, or weight that you need to do. Only just words "Dont overtrain". For me this vid have no reason to watch
your event was pre recorded weeks ago from last night lost of respect for coach ray and devon, neil for deceiving fans.
You dont know that.
@@sinpoeanarconna2974 we do. Look at Devon’s beard in his latest video, then look at his beard during the Sandris match.
Beerman blew their cover in his message during Neil Pickup's live show today. Devon missed his wedding in Ireland 3 weeks ago to teach Sandris how to arm wrestle during the "Dark Card".
@@joshnosirname9924 I agree thats odd. I noticed that as well.
@@sinpoeanarconna2974 I think it was only 1 week before
Man I need help I have been training for 4 months armbwrestling and the forearm, 3 months ago I had a bigger forearm only when I was flexing, Now I trained the forearm for 3 months and still didn't make much progress, I need help to make it bigger
Maybe you almost reach your body limit, if you want to go over your body limit i think you can use PED (CMIIW)
Mannnn don't be upset just train your forearms 3 times per week.Rest is key ok if you are not getting them rested it will never recover and when it never recover it will never grow just give sometime to rest and recovery okkk❤❤❤
For beginners no
Yes