Sony 70-200mm F4 G series FE Lens Review | John Sison
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In this review I take a look at Sony's fifth full frame E-mount lens, the 70-200mm f4 G series FE lens. It's a great match for the a7 series cameras but is also compatible with all of Sony's E-mount cameras like the a6000 and the a5000 cameras.
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I got this lens recently to shoot my son's swim meets with my a6000 and it rocks! Quite a difference from my 55-210 kit lens. Yes a 2.8 would be much nicer but for my needs the 4.0 is ideal. The sharpness is amazing and the bokeh is very nice! I love it! Great review!
Thank you! Yeah its an awesome lens. I'm actually using this lens on my trip at the moment. Can't go wrong with it :)
I have this lens with a Sony a6000 and have been very pleased with it. I find the f4 to be completely adequate for my needs. I agree. The photos are extremely sharp and the detail is amazing!
Thanks for the feedback! I loved using this lens. I had a lot of fun using it. For my next trip, I feel like using the F2.8 cause it doesn't get much love. We'll see lol
I like the way you say the lens weighs approximately 834gms...that's not approx...lol
David Found LOL
Getting this lens this week. Can't wait after watching your review.
Hope you enjoy it!
Great video! I’m picking a 70-200F4 tomorrow and enjoyed watching this! You earned a sub!
Woohoo thank you! You're going to love that lens!
I got this lens in hong kong brand new for about £650. Its great with the a6000 as its a 105-300mm lens! I'm going to try and do my own review once i've finished with some others I'm queuing up! Got a new respect for you now I've tried to make my own reviews!!
+EviL Ras That's great to hear! I'd like to hear your thoughts on it once you finish your review :D
Cheers john! Shot all the B roll footage, just need to do the voice overs now!
Looks like a good lens to go with my A7S once it comes
I have this lens and use it with my vg900 and a6000. I rarely take the lens hood with me which is about 30% of its size. I fitted a UV filter for a little protection. The A6000 auto focus is blisteringly fast. Should have mentioned the G lock focus on subjects too, it's fantastic. Boken is awesome too.
Bought this bad boy today. Can't wait for it to get in on Friday.
I have a a7 and I'm really thinking about getting this Lens but only a F4.0 :( Still looks like it gets an amazing job done plus not a lot of options yet from the E-mount family. I hope more will come.
I wonder if this f4 will get an upgrade too… I was ready to buy it when the V2 of the 2.8 was announced so I stope my self. Since “winter is coming” I can wait for several month and see. What your thought on that?
How would this compare to a lens like the Sigma 70-200 f:2.8? They're about the same price online, and I'm considering getting one of the two. Obviously there'll probably be a size difference, but what about image quality? Is the extra size worth it for the f:2.8? I already have the LAEA4 adapter so it's a pretty straight shootout for me. What do you think?
The Sony 70-200mm F4 is much better in terms of image quality and performance but it depends on what you shoot if for you to go with the F2.8 or F4. If you shoot a lot of low light photos then the Sigma would be the better option for you.
Great to know - I like the form factor of the f4 much better. I'm not shooting too specialised low light stuff - mainly aerial and cars/friends, and it's on the A7s so I'm hoping that will help with LL. It's just the ability to really blur the background sometimes would be nice. But you reckon the f4 will be sharper overall than the Sigma? That will be the main thing for most applications.
Clarky Av Hands down it will sharper than the Sigma =.D
vasilios dinis Just want to clarify something here - is there a point in using the sony A mount 70-200 F2.8 with the LA-EA4 as in theory the light that the adapter steals would bring the aperture up to an F4, which is then effectively equal to the E mount 70-200 F4?
The LA-EA4 takes about 1/3rd of a stop, so it would be closer to f/2.8
Hello John! I want to pick one all around/travel lens up to this price. Do you think that 70-200 f4 would be the best choice for the money? My only concern is slow auto focus. Thanks
Its a big lens for travel but if you don't mind this is a fantastic lens for the quality of images you get. The autofocus wasn't that slow but it also depends on what camera you are using too.
Great video mate , keep up the good work
+Michael Michael Thanks man! :D
HI JOHN!!! how does it works with the a6000? would you make a review about it?
It works brilliantly on the a6000. I don't have the camera on me at the moment but its very quick to focus and almost always spot on.
John Sison When using this on the a6000, how does it effect the aperture settings? can you still get it down to F4 considering its an full frame lens on a crop body
oiboiii You can still stop it down to F4 even if you're using this on the A6000. The only thing that changes is the focal length.
About a year ago I got a Sony A7-II with the 55mm f/1.8 and I’m very happy with it (I’m not a pro), now that they are coming out with a 70-200 f/2.8 do you believe that the f/4 will drop in price?
+RickBSO I don't think it will drop in price. Its not a replacement as the F2.8 version will sit at a higher price point.
+John Sison Thank you.
Its so worth to listen GREAT REVIEW👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it Thank you!
Just about to change my RX100mk3... How does this lens stack up against the the RX10 24-200 Zeiss lens?
Hey John, thanks for the review. I was wondering about colors, I've noticed it's a bit towards the coolers colors compared to the 24-70 f4 . Do you have any remarks about the colors?
Thanks!!
does it balance well without a battery grip? i have the grip but i'm beginning to not like how my A7R look with the grip. too square. I wanna sell it but i'd like to know if it's necessary with the FE 70-200.
Yeah it balances very well with the a7 cameras. Its not too front heavy but as long as you're holding the camera and the lens correctly it should be alright.
Hi I have an older F4.5-5.6/70-300 G Lens (Alpha) that I use an adapt with the Alpha to E-Mount adapter (not the pass thru adapter but the more expensive Sony adapter with mirror.) With my A7-R This shoots really great images in full frame - Is it sort of a waste to get this E-Mount F4 70-200mm G FE mount lens since I have a 70-300mm? Or are there significant advantages of getting this F4 70-200mm G FE over what I have? Thanks.
There are quite a few advantages like having a constant F4 aperture throughout the zoom, stabilization built in to the lens, weather resistance so its more rugged and the quality of photos is much better on the 70-200mm. The only thing you are really giving up is the zoom of the 70-300mm lens.
I have a question that please answer. I have A7 with FE 2470 F4, FE 55 F1.8, and ZA 85 F1.4 now. However, due to limited budget I need to sell one of 55 or 85 to get the money to buy 70200 F4. I shoot a lot of portrait and some travel photo, which one do you think I should sell? ZA85 or FE 55? Thanks a lot.
For me, I would probably sell the 85mm lens.
so is this good for low light? I will be shooting indoor at night with lights I'm shooting for sports
i still with no idea what i can do with the 3 buttons on the 70-200mm :( i don't see anything on screen when i press one of them
Hi. I just purchased the sel70200 from Best Buy. Love it and your video is excellent. Question: it has a hard time communicating with the camera. During a typical shoot it will not focus or not respond to aperture or shutter changes. Zooming in and out or snapping a few out of focus pictures or pointing it at the ground and then back up at the scene will "wake up" the lens so to say and put me back in control. Have you heard of this? Are you aware of a fix. This does not occur on my A7ii with any other lens. Thanks!!
+bobbygfl That isn't normal behaviour for the lens to work like that on the camera. Have you tried cleaning the contacts of the lens? If its still not working, I would get it serviced or get it replaced.
if I already have the 18-105, do you think there's a lot of value in buying this lens? I don't shoot sports all the time, do you think the extra focal length is very necessary?
I think if you don't shoot sports or need that extra focal length all the time, you should be fine with the 18-105mm lens.
I'm curious about the second button on the barrel. You choose from full focus to 3 meters-infinity. Which situations would need this change? Thanks.... I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who already has used the lens. It's next on my list. I'd highly recommend the 18-105 f/4 G series lens for a great walkaround piece of glass.
+bt10ant You would change the focusing distance so the camera can focus faster without having to hunt from the minimum focusing distance to infinity to lock onto focus. So if your subject is far from you, you can change the focusing distance from full to 3m - infinite.
Hi John, one more question regarding this lens, do you think that Tamron or Sigma will come out with a native (without adapters) 70-200 for the A7-II (for less money) in the near future, or there aren’t that many Sony cameras out there so they are not going to bother for now? Thank you.
+RickBSO To be honest, I'm not too sure and I don't think that lens would be priority for Sigma or Tamron for the A7 series cameras if they ever start making FE lenses.
+John Sison Thanks again John.
+John Sison thanks for the response. one more ? I'm saving up to get sony a7rii. What would be a good walk around/vacation lense I can use with my soon to be a7rii and my a6000.
+vhb408 There are a couple that you can consider. If you want a cheap lens that wouldn't be too heavy, you can get the Sony 28-70mm lens but if you need more range, the 24-240mm is another option but it will be more expensive, heavier and bigger. Both lenses are also made for full frame.
hi john, can you give me some ideas if I wanna get this lens, because the 70-200 lens f.28 too expensive
whether 70-200 f4 lens has been very good for the purchase?
Color sharpness is very much the result?
thanks john.
I would say for the money, its a great lens to get especially for colours and sharpness. Of course, the F2.8 is the better option but I don't think you would be disappointed with it.
John, I am going round in circles here, but here goes!
Tried the Clear image zoom on my Sony A6000 and it works perfect with the Sony 16-50mm as I see the zoom display in the top right hand corner , with the half way and 2x limit. It worked well and clear.
However, does it work with the manual zoom action of the 70-200mm f4 G OSS as there then is no zoom display? So I cannot see how to extend into the 2x area to get a 400mm equivilant. OR THIS JUST NOT POSSIBLE?
Any help aprreciated. Regards C
actionsportdude Its definitely possible. All you have to do is go into your custom key settings, assign a button for the function to "zoom" and once you have done that press the button you have assigned to zoom and you should be able to use clear image zoom on the camera.
Let me know if you get stuck but that should do the trick :)
John Sison You are the man!!, sure enough it worked, the zoom scale came up in the top right and then the far right wheel on top of the A6000 allows you to zoom in to selected magnifications.
Thanks C ;-)
actionsportdude Perfect! No worries :)
hay john. great review. btw, what do you think about this lense vs 70-350mm G OSS? Which is better between those two regarding the AF speed and the capability to reach the infinite focus distance. Thx
O0o that's a tough one to be honest. I haven't compared them directly so it will be hard to answer that question. Although, I did feel like the 70-200mm F4 was pretty fast in AF to be honest.
@@JohnSisonPhotography thx john. cant wait to see another reviews
I need a zoom lens for stills and videos for indoor collegiate swimming meets. Will the combination of this lens with an a6000 be okay for indoor swimming events?
igp808 Yeah definitely! =.D
+John Sison this 70-200f4 is much better than some make it to be... mine is far sharper than the copy of the 70-300 OS's I just returned. contrast is also far better. I own a Zeiss 55 and know what's sharp. this zoom is sharp. period
Thanks John for this nice review!
Finally I've found somebody that looks through the view finder using the left eye, too!! :D :D :D
No worries! Haha we're a rare breed apparently.
John Sison Turns out we're not rare. The whole "using the left eye" thing left me curious. Turns out that there's a dominant eye. This eye we also use to look through a camera.
It is usable with Nex 6 or 5R?
it can since they both use the same mount.
Yes. I wonder, why Jason did not mention them by saying "...as well as all NEX cameras".
Yeah, I know that, so do you, but many do not know that, so it migt be good to just have mentioned "...and all NEX cameras" ;)...
***** Lofote No worries everyone. Dearly noted and thanks for the feedback =.)
What do you think of the combination of an a6000 with the Zeiss 24mm and Sony 70-200?
I'm thinking that since the Zeiss is so sharp I can always crop in to cover the focal length gap (I have no 30-60mm lenses) or I could just switch to JPEG mode for some shots and use ClearZoom which turns my 24mm into a 24-48, sort of.
I've been impressed with ClearZoom as if I'm just shooting a photo and don't need to crop in after the results of this digital zoom feel like I just shot the image normally, I can only really notice if the photo was taken at high ISO or I zoom into the CZ'd image. To be honest I've always turned my nose up at digital zooms on other cameras but here it actually works surprisingly well!
Drive Cancel That would be an awesome combo. And it looks like you're making good use of the clear image zoom pretty. I've always thought it did a better job compared to other manufacturers who do something similar.
Great to hear! I also decided to pick up a Minolta 50/1.7 ($30!), so I think I have it all covered, I'm looking forward to using a fully manual lens but I think cropping (or CZ) using the 24mm is going to be perfectly fine in 99% of situations. :)
Hey, great video! I'm thinking to get this lens for my Sony A7III. But I'm wondering how this lens performs with eye af. Does this lens supports eye af en does it work well?
Thank you! I haven't paired this lens yet with the A7III but taking a look at Eye-AF performance in other videos, I'm sure it'll be pretty much spot on. From what I've also researched, it looks like Eye-AF won't be a problem either.
Thank you for your review! It was wonderful, and I purchased this lens after watching your review. It was very helpful. However, I have a question, the 3 button auto-lock on the lens that I press, it never helps me to lock the objects. I have the Sony a7II, just don't know how to do the focus lock by pressing the lens button.
+Anson Yau You're welcome. Those buttons may be assigned to different functions. If you go into the menu of the camera with the lens attached and go into custom key settings you can customise it.
+John Sison Thank you John, I do see that I can cusomise those button now. If I want to shoot some moving subject such as race car, which function I should assign? I see there are AEL hold, FEL lock hold, FEL lock/ AEL tggle. I am confused with those function.
+Anson Yau Hmm it really depends what you kind of photo you want to get. Try out FEL Lock Hold.
Hi John,
Nice review. It would have been good to have a quick demo of the focus hold buttons for the uninitiated like myself.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll make sure I do that for upcoming videos.
Hey John, Im looking to buy this lens but like most E mount I think its going to have that stepping motor, with motor controlled focus. I like the manual feel on my lenses. Having used this lens, can you confirm whether it has a mechanical focus?
Hey. Are you talking about fly-by-wire? If so, then yes. All Sony lenses are fly-by-wire and are electronically controlled and its not mechanically controlled.
ahh damn, I kinda hate that. mmm gonna go for the Canon 70-200 F2.8 one with metabones. I have two Sony/zeiss lenses that have that fly-by-wire system and am looking for a mechanical lens
PixelTouchMedia Yeah. You could go for the Sony 70-200mm F2.8 II lens in A-mount which will give you better autofocus.
though is that still flybywire or a mechanical?
PixelTouchMedia Its mechanical.
what did you "fillm" this on?...looks very sharp
I was using the Sony a77 Mark 2 with a Carl Zeiss 24-70mm f2.8. I love it, it works really well.
John, I've rented this lens & LOVE it...but it's pricey. How does it compare to the Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS Lens - if I needed to get that one due to my budget? I'm using the Sony a6000 and shooting lots of soccer (mostly outdoor, daytime). Thanks so much
+Michele Giacobbe The 70-200mm G is much better in terms of build, has better stabilization and extra controls on the lens for focusing and stabilization and has a constant F4 aperture at any range while the 55-210mm is F4.5-6.3.
+John Sison Is these 70-200mm parfocal?
Hi, I was wondering what your thoughts where on using this lens for indoor sports like track. I’m trying to get into the sport photography industry and the job I’m trying to get requires indoor sports mainly indoor track for the winter months. I’ve been able to borrow this lens from Sony Square for an outdoor event and it was super awesome but I’m wondering how well it will do indoors.
Hi! Apologies for the late reply. It should hold up rather well given you have decent lighting but if its pretty dim or you need faster shutter speeds the F2.8 version would be a lot better to go with than the F4.
John Sison ok great, thank you so much!
Hi john i own one of this lens shooting with A7,, When manual focus the image have to be up in close to make it clear before shooting its any other way or no options
Sorry I don't understand your question.
When switch to manual to zoom the lens how come the picture is up in close when i try to focus
Mine is good focus assist...
Dose it have to be ? Any other option? Thanks !
Is their something I have to change on my a6000 when mounting lense, fully zoomed it shows as 200mm not 300mm? thanks in advance. love your channel by the way
+vhb408 Thank you :) No you don't need to change anything. When its zoomed all the way in that is actually 300mm.
Which would you recommend The 70-200 or the 70-300? I dont know if I would need that extra 100mm but it seems like it would be nice to have.
+Jesse H, depends what your doing. If you think your gonna actually make use of the longer 300mm then get it, but there is a tradeoff. Optically the 70-200 is better, and it will deliver better images in the end. :)
Agreed!
+Justin Tang thank you guys
+Justin Tang yes the 70-200 is quite a bit better than the 70-300 in my tests. my copy of the 70-300 was average in sharpness, and seriously lacked contrast which the 70-200f4 does not. wasn't worth the extra 100mm at all
+madmaxx72 k thanks for the extra info
Boss!!! I am planning to buy it for now A6300 and for future FX bodies
You shouldn't be disappointed with it! :D
hi John! does your zoom ring makes noise when rotating?
+Ed Gomez No noise at all.
Hi thanks for your review. You explain things clearly & at a good pace. I like the close up views of the lens & buttons.
Q: This is described as moisture resistant but I couldn't see a rear seal. I read elsewhere that it doesn't have one. Is that the case? And surely a lens needs this to be described as weather resistant?
Thanks
It has a weather resistant design so it would probably be more around the zoom and focus rings but there isn't any rubber gaskets around the mount unfortunately.
my question is, when would you use the infinity to 3 meter over full
I would use it for sports and wildlife that are far away so it limits the amount of time it takes the lens to focus.
thanks for replying my friend, so you mean for sports and wildlife that are far away use infinity to 3 meter? in which instance would you use FULL then?
@@mickspawn when you are not sure if they are going to be closers than 3 meters.
or u use 3-inf when you don't want to autofocus on for example the cage when shooting box or some fights.
How will lens work in skiing scenarios (low light, shadows, and will effect the AF)
Its a quick focusing camera and image quality is actually very good. In terms of low light performance, its not going to be as good as an F2.8 lens. What camera are you using with it?
Sony A6000
Paul Sendor Perfect combo for sports!
Thank you for the info. I'm freezing my aSS off right now. Trying to get a morning shot of the Gore range right now and it's really cold, but it snowed yesterday.
Nice review. But I'll stick with my GH4 and 35-100 mm f2.8 lens which is the equivalent to this lens.
I dont think it's comparable . Though the focal range multipled by crop factor X2 would instantly make it 70-200, you sacrifice the aperture to maximum f/5.6. (35-100 f/2.8 multiplied by crop factor 2 .0 = 70-200 f/5.6)
The GH4 IMHO is the best bang for your buck.
No one cares lol
I've bought this lens a week ago. Just a fantastic lens :D
Great to hear that you're enjoying it! :)
Is this good for hummingbirds shooting??
Yep! It is capable of shooting them. It also requires a bit of patience too hehe.
Is it possible to get a good bokeh with an F4 lens?
Yeah definitely.
especially @200mm/F4 (and obviously even more so on a full frame body)
can that fit on the sony pxw x70? and what is a good lens for the sony pxw x70 for concert?
+Fufanu Inc. Doesn't look like you can change lenses on that camera so it wouldn't be compatible.
there is one it wrap around like a filter glass for the pxwx70
Brother, can you give me some ideas if I wanna get this lens, prefer this f4 or F2.8? Any idea?
I haven't tried the F2.8 version but apparently its very fast and the quality is amazing! However, its going to be very expensive and slightly heavier and larger than the F4 version.
John Sison yes I think so. Brother, last week I just bought 70-200mm f4. It was nice to use
+John Sison agreed... 2.8 will be big, heavy but sharp. problem is the f4 version is already sharp enough.. and super light.
John Sison ya ok
Hi :) is it good coupled with an a7r 2 for landscapes & sport ?
+Attallah Hichem Yeah it will great for sports but for landscapes people usually get a wider lens but its still capable of taking some great shots.
+John Sison john, 70-200 is a must for landscape photographers. along with 16-35 is a most used lenses. search for tele landscape photography
Hi John, I am Mr. Santosh Chavan from India. I am using Sony NEX VG 30 EH Camera for creating Documentaries and TV Commercials. is this Lens will work more proper for my Creative projects, for Quality and Creative frame work?
+चव्हाण संतोष The lens will definitely work with the VG30.
+John Sison Thanks john
Good day, its compatible with sony nex-7?? Please reply anyone who knows about this lens thank you
Yes it is :)
John Sison okay thank you for the respond.
When would you use infinity to 3m?
Wildlife
Thanks for the review John! I'm hoping to pick one of these up in hong kong in a few weeks to put on my new a6000. So that means i'll have the 16-70mm f4 zeiss (after your review), the 50mm f1.8 sony (after your review) and the 70-200mm f4 G OSS (because of this review)! And pretty much i wont need to buy any other lenses for now! Next job is working out what to put these things into! (Even the new "everyday messenger bag" thats on kickstarter looks a bit big for a CSC system, even with the 70-200!
+evilras Wow! How are you liking your lenses so far? I'm sure you'd love the 70-200mm F4 lens when you get it. I'm keen to check out that messenger bag.
The 16-70mm is awesome. I dont care what the pixel peepers say! I'm really happy with my shots! The 50mm f1.8 is also great for those shallow DOF shots! I'm looking forward to getting the 70-200mm so i can start doing some longer range stuff! And next year i might invest in the 10-18mm as i've heard great stuff, and your review looked good with it! Pretty much i'm now torn between aluminium or carbong fibre travel tripod (3 legged thing punks range), and which bag to use for it all! The Temba switch 10 seems to be winning!
Will this work with with Sony NEX 5R series?
It sure will!
does it work with sony teleconverters?
Nope. Those teleconverters are for A-mount lenses. Not E-mount.
Buying a lens worth over twice the price of a A6000 for an A6000, well that makes sense. XD
My copy dosent seem to get anything sharp in focus
Might be best to take it back to where you bought it or compare with another copy just to be sure.
John, have you experienced the canon 70-200f4? Curious the results verse that lens.
+Brandon Petersen I've used it but I haven't compared it.
can it be used w a 6500?
It definitely can.
How about low light?
It's decent in low light because of the constant aperture but ideally, you'd want to get an F2.8 lens for better low light in this range unless you don't mind pumping up your ISO on your camera.
Yeah but that extra stop means a lot of $ and weight... not sure I'd need it, particularly on the A7iii where ramping the ISO won't hurt as badly.
Thanks for review - always - just looks crazy big on the small a7/r/s - obviously to heavy for the A7 body so they supply the tri pod collar - other thing it is only F4.0
Just looks like it should be on a DSLR body - defeats the point of small body and going light
- Expensive for a F4.0
You're welcome. Yeah its not lens for everyone but for people that don't mind the size, its a beautiful lens.
Yeah but then compare it to any other 70-200 with a stabilizer, and see how large those are. It does look big for a a7 but in all reality It is very compact for a 70-200. I would buy this for my a7 if I had the money.
The 70-200 is perfect on my A7r and very sharp wide open even at 200mm.
This or 70300 what the differences
I'd go with the 70-200mm. Sharper lens in my opinion.
Thank you for the reply,
This lens or SEL24240?
borevir If you're going for quality, the 70-200mm G lens but if you want convenience, the 24-240mm.
John Sison Hey John, thanks for the reply. Before I drop $1,500 on this lens, what would you say the main advantages are compared to the Sony 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS kit lens that I already have? I assume build quality would be one.
borevir Build quality, weather resistance, image quality definitely, constant F4 aperture, better stabilization and focus hold buttons.
It’s a plastic body, mate. Also, they crack in half if the strike something.
This lens good for photography but not for videography
Its not the best but if you need the reach and understand its limitations, it can be quite capable.
What that horse sound?
Henry Kurniawan Not sure what you're referring to lol. It may be the kids in the background where I was shooting?
I think so John. It really horse behind the camera LOL ?
Henry Kurniawan lol possibly =.P
at 2:04 ^_^
You should record these without the birds.
Ronn Kilby I like it
Will this lens work with a NEX-5n?
Yeah definitely will.