Sony 70-200 f4 II - Incredibly Compact and Macro (with a Big Surprise)

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  • @michaelpark952
    @michaelpark952 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    "Why is it not focusing!?"
    "Because it's Panasonic, that's why."
    Oh Kai. Violent facts.

  • @JoriDiculous
    @JoriDiculous ปีที่แล้ว +24

    70-200? That's one compact piece of slidey outy glass

    • @Hondanovich
      @Hondanovich 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Canon rf 70-200 f4 way smaller

  • @hivetyrant7
    @hivetyrant7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My gut reaction is always to prefer internal zoom, but my Canon RF 70-200 that has external zoom has held up really well for the last few years with constant abuse so I would imagine this one will be fine.

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The "external zoom = dust sucking pump" perception has been overexaggerated by many. RF 70-200Ls and RF100-500L has proven not true if there's proper sealing.

    • @Sparky_oto
      @Sparky_oto ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve been an external zoom skeptic after a bad experience with dust trapping in a Fuji 100-400 external supertele zoom. I have been forever scarred and now put a plastic bag over any external zooms I use to prevent dust / water trapping in lens…
      How do you keep your lens free from dust / water in lens?

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sparky_oto It's the sealing inside the lens that matters.

    • @hbp_
      @hbp_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just don't want anything moving externally. It annoys me. At least we don't have those rotating front lenses anymore anywhere.

  • @TechWithBruno
    @TechWithBruno ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Seems great with a 2x converter, you can macro and birding with the same ("compact"ish) lens

  • @ShiroKage009
    @ShiroKage009 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Kai is rocking a red Reverso. Freaking class choice man!

  • @小諧
    @小諧 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    external is compact but I still like inner zoom

  • @numbersix8919
    @numbersix8919 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome lens.
    There's strong Sony vs Panasonic undercurrent in this video.

  • @gusriaditasrik6922
    @gusriaditasrik6922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:42 what a SHOT.

    • @bbtan
      @bbtan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that detail and sharpness *chef kiss

  • @WIHRC
    @WIHRC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always a pleasure watching both of you in your videos. I have to give a humongous shout-out to Lok for explaining focus breathing in such a straightforward way. I've been trying to understand what it is for quite some time, and in the 7 seconds of him explaining it, I instantly understood.

  • @Pablomache
    @Pablomache ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So for the 70-200 F/4 G II price you could also get: 70-200mm F/4 G + 90mm F/2.8 G Macro, 70-200mm F/2.8 GM, 200-600mm G.

    • @shrektheogre5430
      @shrektheogre5430 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bought it for $1400. Soooo… no. It’s cheaper.

    • @Pablomache
      @Pablomache หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shrektheogre5430 why did you wait a whole year? In the UK it's still $2,103 but I'm guessing you got it on sale in the US?

  • @Bhavesh_shekhri81
    @Bhavesh_shekhri81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kai w the goat when i saw the post on instagram of sony alpha i immediately opened youtube and searched your channel for the review ⚡️⚡️

  • @Hobbies4Hire
    @Hobbies4Hire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it.

  • @ryankwan1934
    @ryankwan1934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn that detail and MFD.

  • @ShiroKage009
    @ShiroKage009 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This lens is also macro? This is insane!

    • @bioliv1
      @bioliv1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only half macro.

    • @ShiroKage009
      @ShiroKage009 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bioliv1 The results are still pretty good for a Zoom like this. I don't want to buy it, but if I find it used for a decent price it would top my list.

    • @bioliv1
      @bioliv1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShiroKage009 Maybe in 2030 you will?

    • @ShiroKage009
      @ShiroKage009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bioliv1 I mean, sure. I don't need this right now, so I'm not in any hurry.

  • @twohandsTWOFEET
    @twohandsTWOFEET 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Came for the review and sample photos, left laughing at your comedy.

  • @rkgaustin9043
    @rkgaustin9043 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sony is going through the whole lens range? I hope they do the 50mm and 35mm 1.8's next. I don't think they've ever been updated

    • @kaimelis
      @kaimelis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      35 really good to this day, new 50 1.8 would be nice, bu the 1.4 is brilliant and its the cheapest g master lens ever. no sure if they want to reduce the value of that.

  • @robabiera733
    @robabiera733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice bracelet Kai!

  • @tylertakesphotos
    @tylertakesphotos ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now that this is coming out soon would you say no better time than now to get the V1 of this lens for super cheap? I just came across one today for a steal

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว

      The G1 was not a quick focusing lens

    • @tylertakesphotos
      @tylertakesphotos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zegzbrutal and?

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylertakesphotos why aren't you going for Tamron 70-180 instead?

    • @tylertakesphotos
      @tylertakesphotos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zegzbrutal because I can get the Sony for really cheap. Plus stabilization is nice to allow you to drop to lower shutter speeds handheld and still get a nice crisp photo. I’m not wanting the tamron. It was a consideration though.

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylertakesphotos you are using full frame bodies right? There's ibis to compensate. If you aren't using a7r5 or a6700, you are still upto 5 stops at best.
      Having one f stop higher is equally beneficial as OSS on the old f4G.

  • @adamarmfield1069
    @adamarmfield1069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i joke to myself that fuji's bird detection mode is in fact chimney and aerial detection mode, works a treat for that not so much for birds, they were cheating

  • @kenn6592
    @kenn6592 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the current f4. Considering an upgrade as I moved from a 7iii to an Rv. Not sure about that external zoom though. Perhaps the 2.8.ii is more like me? I don’t do videos and I use my one Zoom for all sorts of photography. Any thoughts on the comparable image quality of 2.8ii v 4ii out there?

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought to get my get first camera with tele lens because ccloser cann covered with iPhone 15, 70-200 f4 can shoot macro which is more capability, butAPSC 70-350 has more zoom, which should i choose? How about Rx100 Vii and RX10 iV, are they worth it, I hope ew version with Exmor T going to release tho. I thought to get 20-70mm F4 and pair with 70-200 F4 but as I realoised closer can cover with iPhone 15, I also noot surre if A7Cii/A7CcR are worth it since the big lens wont get benefit from smaller camera body and the EVF experience isn't going to be as good as full size A7. I also.thought to get Hasselblad X2D with single 28mm (22mm FF eq.) because I love its image quality and color and I can crop in a lot too, I also thought to get Leica Q3 which is good overall in one package, also Leica D Lux 7 which is ggoodd enough in a small beautiful package but I hope fixed lens camera can start at ultrawide with good macro too. I focus on Sony because it has that unique ultrawide to tele 20-70mm F4 lens and I Love Sony more, but if I won't get it but a super tele, should I get other brand? Any other brands has small super tele that has macro too like Sony 70-200mm F4 and good in video with minimum rolling shutter? But I still not sure, any advices and suggestions?

  • @ruff1draft
    @ruff1draft ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if Sony will make a 28-300 lens like Tamron and Nikon

    • @ze3bar
      @ze3bar ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? They’ll charge $3000 and nobody will buy it from them

    • @ruff1draft
      @ruff1draft ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ze3bar Maybe but ya never know

  • @milkham
    @milkham ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that a Reverso?

  • @beargalindez34
    @beargalindez34 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:21 what bag is that again

  • @matosfilm1993
    @matosfilm1993 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cover the Viltrox lens ?!

  • @tek_soup
    @tek_soup ปีที่แล้ว

    i just need a macro, which sony one to choose? price don't matter. thanks!

    • @duvalpenny100
      @duvalpenny100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sony actually makes a macro lense. Get that. Sony 90mm 2.8 Macro G lens.

  • @sanaez
    @sanaez ปีที่แล้ว

    классные возможности макро😍

  • @jukeboxjohnnie
    @jukeboxjohnnie ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks about the same size as Canon f2.8 version 🙂

  • @JaySilva88
    @JaySilva88 ปีที่แล้ว

    This lens might sound amazing, but the price difference would make me get the version 1.0. Or look for used V1 even cheaper.

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer iOS as tool plus I want to get Apple Watch Ultra too, but I prefer more natural looking photo and video and I think Xperia is the one that can provide, do you think it is wprth to change and use Xperia 1 V as main phone or better get a camera like Sony A7C / C ii with 20 - 70 mm F4, but phone will always be easier and more often to carry, what do you think? For iPhone, I won't get the Pro tho because I love Yellow color and I will get the iPhone 14 6.1' Yellow, but I not sure should I wait and see if iPhone 15 has Yellow color too! Xperia 1 V focus and market more on camera but is still not over the top in picture quality, highlight still blown out, dynamic range still can't beat computational photography, only if theyable t add more OP while still retain their natural looking image quality, try use hsrdware more than software to achieve and improve their image quality but they only add new main camera hardware and no hardware improvement to ultra wide and tele photo, seem missed change or they want to retain them for Xperia 1 VI or else it will be less selling point for the next model, do Sony ever improve the camera quality with software like Samsung after the phone been released for sometime?

    • @NathanElcoate
      @NathanElcoate ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always camera over phone. There's no comparison.

    • @NetvoTV
      @NetvoTV ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought to get my get first camera with tele lens because ccloser cann covered with iPhone 15, 70-200 f4 can shoot macro which is more capability, butAPSC 70-350 has more zoom, which should i choose? How about Rx100 Vii and RX10 iV, are they worth it, I hope ew version with Exmor T going to release tho. I thought to get 20-70mm F4 and pair with 70-200 F4 but as I realoised closer can cover with iPhone 15, I also noot surre if A7Cii/A7CcR are worth it since the big lens wont get benefit from smaller camera body and the EVF experience isn't going to be as good as full size A7. I also.thought to get Hasselblad X2D with single 28mm (22mm FF eq.) because I love its image quality and color and I can crop in a lot too, I also thought to get Leica Q3 which is good overall in one package, also Leica D Lux 7 which is ggoodd enough in a small beautiful package but I hope fixed lens camera can start at ultrawide with good macro too. I focus on Sony because it has that unique ultrawide to tele 20-70mm F4 lens and I Love Sony more, but if I won't get it but a super tele, should I get other brand? Any other brands has small super tele that has macro too like Sony 70-200mm F4 and good in video with minimum rolling shutter? But I still not sure, any advices and suggestions?

  • @DCdc25
    @DCdc25 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it. No way it's worth that kind of money for an f4 and external zoom.... Nope not having that.

  • @denisgehlhaar8902
    @denisgehlhaar8902 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love this lens but the price in germany kills me. Its almost Double the price of the original. No thanks!

  • @nhancao4790
    @nhancao4790 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would rather an internally zoom lens, less dust intake and smoother zoom ring.

  • @TW-iu9zy
    @TW-iu9zy ปีที่แล้ว

    … men, the worse AF in this video - bah! 🤦‍♂️

  • @Konavariante
    @Konavariante ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a good lens, but a bit to expensive for a f4.

  • @Jonathantuba
    @Jonathantuba ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not sure correct to call a macro lens, as it is only half macro, while after all the 100-400 and quite a few other lenses in the line up are a third macro. So the macro on barrel seems just marketing, successful by the number of videos pushing this aspect. I won’t be buying for three reasons, I don’t like extending zooms, I am not a fan of petal hoods, and I already own the F2.8 GMii which is still IMO the better lens. In fact that is my top favourite Sony zoom lens.

  • @n1ngnuo
    @n1ngnuo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks very cheap, and probably has quality issues. I prefer to stay with tier 1 brands like Nikon or Canon.

    • @Newtperc
      @Newtperc ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tier 1 according to who?

    • @ryankwan1934
      @ryankwan1934 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go home, you're drunk.

    • @sv1201
      @sv1201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nikon is barely tier 2 now, on a brink of exiting camera business altogether, their imaging business shrank to about 30% of their revenue and market share is 2.5 times less than Sony's.

  • @Sgt_Hest
    @Sgt_Hest ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would rather keep the old length and then have internal zoom instead

  • @jtdx_
    @jtdx_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m still using the mark 1 and it holds up well. Prefer internal zoom though so no need to upgrade

  • @SDK2006b
    @SDK2006b ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love the chilled out review style 👍🏻
    Been following your videos since 12+ years - keep up the great work !

  • @junaid_ahmed_
    @junaid_ahmed_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kai waiting on your A6700 review…..

  • @svenstreet
    @svenstreet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought this lens because it is so versatile, light and good. Yes it is expensive but I am happy to have 400mm with the converter which wouldn't be possible with the Tamron for example.

  • @whitewalker9622
    @whitewalker9622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Kai where is the new 16-50? Or the new 10-18 or the new 16/2,8, which all have been really bad lenses and I have them all.

  • @adams.555
    @adams.555 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Panasonic Shows low self esteem in front of Sony

  • @stuntmonkey00
    @stuntmonkey00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shorty but still thick; so they made it more choady.

  • @filton12
    @filton12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a grower, not a show-er.

  • @WonderCreationStudios
    @WonderCreationStudios ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that lens looks a lot like another that I've seen from Canon that released back in 1995...

  • @SoulQuJo
    @SoulQuJo ปีที่แล้ว

    wow , another very expensive package but very compact. kind of cute

  • @momentsinanglingessence855
    @momentsinanglingessence855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think the Version 1 would have the same affect with a Macro adapter?
    Great informative video, with some comedy 😅

  • @paulchiu
    @paulchiu ปีที่แล้ว

    Panasonic Video AF is atrocious.

  • @NathanElcoate
    @NathanElcoate ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd rather if it had internal zoom. External looks cheap IMO.

  • @Daniel_Ilyich
    @Daniel_Ilyich ปีที่แล้ว

    This camera is a grower, not a shower!

  • @mariuszkedzior1541
    @mariuszkedzior1541 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol 🤣🤣🤣 for Panasonic focusing issues. Obviously it's happening only when Sony is around 😊

  • @Neopulse00
    @Neopulse00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love seeing you guys together. Plus I'm hating the TH-cam algorithm lately by it not showing me your vids on my feed 😢

  • @georgemahlum6542
    @georgemahlum6542 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own the original FE 70-200/4...I am not a fan of external focus...The old one serves me well.

  • @joshuaweaver5284
    @joshuaweaver5284 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This Lens is awesome for Macro, the bonus is you get a quality native E-mount 70-200.

  • @Psych86_
    @Psych86_ ปีที่แล้ว

    What camera is that

  • @johnmorony6307
    @johnmorony6307 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you scratched it when you put it in the bag!

  • @Tezrema
    @Tezrema ปีที่แล้ว

    Very excited for about 1:20 there😂

  • @WiP999
    @WiP999 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll go with the Tamron 70-180 f2.8

  • @sdhm808
    @sdhm808 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lens hood bracelet 😂😂😂

  • @somethingsomethingsomethingdar
    @somethingsomethingsomethingdar ปีที่แล้ว

    Some lenses are growers not showers😅

  • @carlcheng6401
    @carlcheng6401 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Would you pick the Sony 70-200 F4 II or Tamron 70-180 F2.8 II (A065)? I cannot make up my mind...

  • @Master-tu4kd
    @Master-tu4kd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that shutter sound fake?

  • @EmoDKTsuchiya
    @EmoDKTsuchiya ปีที่แล้ว

    NDAs on lenses?

  • @tokiyokidesu
    @tokiyokidesu ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool lens!

  • @alhOOO2O
    @alhOOO2O ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a Sony user. Love their lens. At this stage, it is unforgivable to have a tripod foot that isn't arca-swiss compatible.

  • @The_Essential_Light
    @The_Essential_Light ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just watched Tony Northrup’s review of this lens and it is not sharp at 200mm. I’m really disappointed in the overall image quality. I’ll have to pass.

  • @simonturnill
    @simonturnill ปีที่แล้ว

    I call these “horse’s c*ck” lenses for obvious reasons… don’t like them - prefer the internal zoom of the Mk 1

  • @80-80.
    @80-80. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the biggest advantage of this lens is that Canon users will think you have a 2.8 version because of the size.

  • @jamericanjesus
    @jamericanjesus ปีที่แล้ว

    How he holding the camera is triggering me.