My experience with fifth metatarsal fracture - recovery timeline, UK NHS, what you should expect
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มี.ค. 2022
- (My 6-8 months post break experiences) In July 2021 I had a silly accident (video included!) which resulted in a displaced avulsion fracture of my fifth (5th) metatarsal. I did a lot of research throughout and wanted to share my own learnings to help others who may be unfortunately in the same position.
Well done. You are a lucky man to work for such a wonderful firm which gives you support. I myself, am self employed and had a Jones fracture on 24th March this year. I had three weeks off, because it tipped down with rain( you may remember). I had to go back to work, with no surgery. The second day of being back, I walked 4.25 miles behind a lawn mower. The third, 5.60miles.
It’s half way through May now, and still hurts, but I have no choice. I can’t take painkillers, as they have me gout.
I’ve just got home, so I am going to rest up.
All the best👍🏾😉🇬🇧
Thank you for this video ! You answered all my questions and gives me hope! Wish you all a speedy recovery 🙏
Thank you so much for sharing. As a physician and someone who just broke their fifth metatarsal, this was a great presentation!
As so many others have said in the comments, thank you Adam! Your story is extremely helpful. All the best for your future recovery
Thank you for taking the time to do this presentation. I broke my 5th metatarsal mad badly sprained/ tore ligaments in my left ankle, 7 weeks ago. Im 66 and worry that I’ll never get back to my previous baseline. Like you, I didn’t have surgery. I was given a crutch and a boot very similar to yours- also by the NHS. the effect on my confidence and mental well being is just as traumatic. I’m even wary walking around my own house. So I truly hope that will improve in time also. Your video has given me encouragement in that even someone as young as you are, can be affected mentally by such an injury. Thank you again.
How you getting on? Hope you're better
@@alisonwall3825yes, I’m much better, thank you. I ‘ turned a corner’ around end of August. I’m still wary walking on uneven ground and wet leaves, but I don’t avoid going out for walks. The whole experience has really made me value my mobility and I will try to keep it strong long into old age, if I stay fit and healthy. Thank you again
@@Biddybee Hope you are even better now!
You were lucky to be put in that boot from the beginning, I think it helped with faster recovery. I was stuck in a very uncomfortable cast that created pain unnecessary pain around the patella and toes.... My foot was hard as a stick for weeks after 7 weeks of immobilization. Almost 3 months after removing the cast my ankle mobility is almost back to normal, even though my calf still feels stiffer than the other. Good luck to everyone, the recovery and pain from the cast side effects was worst than the fracture itself.
My doc has placed me in a cast. The pain seems to persist. I am not a doc but I have a feeling that a boot would have been better. The cast is so uncomfortable.
I teared up when you got to the first run. I am going into week 3 of no walking, no driving, haivng to move into an Airbnb because living alone off-grid wasn't doable with a Jones fracture. Being so isoalted alone away from my home and unable to go anywhere, I've had some hard moments. Your presentation gives me great hope. Thank you!
Might be worth anticipating that recovery is not linear. My first 2 weeks were sloooow. Then suddenly your off crutches, and walking in the moon-boot. Then a fortnight or so later, it seemed to plateau. Then a few days of "Will this ever get better?!" and you realise you're improving again! You will get there!
@@PixelVibe42 You make an excellent point! To be reminded that, as with all progress and growth, linear is a fantasy is very helpful. I’m facing up to that truth on many fronts right now, as I’ve had to reverse, slow down, and put on hold various aspects of my life because of this injury. I have not been graceful in my acceptance of this 😆. To reacknowledge that it is the nature of human growth and change is a comfort. Thank you.
Adam you are amazing! Thank you for such detailed report about your journey, its incredible analysis.
God Bless You More, i don"t know what else to say to show u how valuable it is to share your recovery journey with us. i had a fracture (Dr said many fractures) on my fifth Metatarsal bone of my right leg. that fractured bone shifted from its normal spot. it happened because i was on the phone , going downstairs and i missed a step & also while landing my shoe twisted me to the right.. horrible...they put me in cast and today is 10th day since accident. i'm doing ok, thanks to God, and pray that i get to full recovery with out surgery and without other complications. Thank you, Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you and your whole dear Family!
Thank you. You've made such a positive impact in my life. And you have given me confidence. Thank you
Thank you so much for sharing the whole process with every aspect by yours. I had the same avulsion and these kinda days people feel better when they see the people that has experienced the same pain also the same emotions. Musch respect for your presentation, It brought me more hope.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. I broke my fifth metarsal bone (shaft fracture) of my right foot in early October and had the repair surgery in October 17. Now it's almost 2 months since the surgery and I am waiting for my 4th follow-up check with my doc. I am also a daily runner, so this past 2 months had been like the worst nightmare to me. I wish I knew when it'd be safe for me to resume running in my case.
Again, thank you so much.
You’ve been very brave. Thank you for this video be got a jones fracture and take a lot of support from this video.
Thankyou, I've had all the same ups and downs both physically and mentally and I so needed to hear about your experience to give me hope.
Thank you for this video. It gives me confidence, and PATIENCE, in the strength of my body’s own healing. I am also a runner. I ran 12 miles the Sunday before I broke my fifth metatarsal (the next Thursday). Also not glamorous…stepping of my back porch in my husband’s Nike slides. I keep waiting for the day I feel I can at least walk and unfortunately am not there yet…I am on week five. In a boot. This will help me to stop contacting my Dr for an X-ray haha and that something might be wrong. Thank you again. I will stop worrying, and give myself some peace and patience to let my healing continue, and pray for running one day again!
Any updates?
Update? Currently week 5 going on 6… everything going great until last few days. Feels like the heel inside my boot is “worn down” (sunk in a little from usage) and it hurts to use after hours now. It creates an immense sharp pain in the area where I broke my foot, so I’m worried for myself.
Thank you for a very informative and practical depiction of the healing process. It was extremely valuable and helped me have a new perspective of what the road ahead looks like relating to restoring baseline musculoskeletal as well as cardiovascular fitness. You have inspired me to jump on the bike as soon as possible. You are well researched on this subject which added much value. I appreciate this well done presentation as a medical provider and now an orthopedic patient :( .
Thanks Adam for sharing the video. I had brokwn my fifth finger at the end towards ankle . Your video is very informative and helpful. It boost confidence.
Thanks for this sharing. It really helps me to understand on the journey, of which I'm currently facing.
Wow, your experience and the comments below totally reflects what I am going through right now :( Happened a week and a half ago. Had to cancel an up coming triathlon (next week), that hurt! Went swimming today, yay, the hardest part was getting to the swim lane. I'm keeping the foot compression bandaged right now. I'm prepared for the long heal process, I will be super careful! Your vid also gave me some confidence in the body's healing capability. Thanks for sharing and explaining how you dealt with the whole thing.
Thank you, that's given me hope understanding and confidence!! God bless
Thank you for this video. You've given me confidance
Thank you. Very appreciated, thoughtful and helpful. Encouraging to hear for someone in similar situation. God Bless.
Extremely informative. Thanks so much.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s helpful 🙏 .
Thank you so so much for sharing! I just had a non-displaced avulsion fracture to my fifth metatarsal and you've literally walked through all my fears in this video. I'm happy to see I will walk again hahah
Hi Juanita, any updates on your healing and mobility? I have the same fracture you do and on day 16.
@@angelam5013 Hi Angela! Yes I do. My foot is back to normal. I’m walking exercising and wearing heels! I do have slight sharp pains when I step on it abruptly or twist it. But it’s definitely done a great deal of healing and I imagine it’ll be painless in a few months. I also did an X-ray and the crack is fusing/healing. So long and short, you’ll be fine! Enjoy the love and support your getting from family and friends and rest up 😊
@@juanitaabii9462 - Thanks for responding! I just saw your reply unfortunately. That’s wonderful that you are back to some normalcy! I’m now at 6 weeks and my X-rays from 2 weeks ago did not show any bone healing. My Dr has me doing PT for 4 weeks to see if getting blood flow to the area will help. I’m wondering if you experienced any coldness, pins and needles, swelling and bruising along the way? I have all of those things at 6 weeks and just trying to walk in my boot without crutches. At what point in the timeline of your fracture did you get back into a regular shoe?
Thank you so much for this video! I broke mine one month ago and the brake is very similar to yours and how you broke yours. I have been so overwhelmed by the thought of needing surgery and the lack of mobility has me kind of in a dark place. I’m going to see a specialist in a couple days and I’m hoping my healing journey turns out like yours. The few drs i have already spoke with are suggesting a screw or a plate and I think some doctors seem too quick to make that determination. It isn’t the ideal option in my opinion so I hope I can go without. Thanks again for your video and sharing your experience.
I’m a 33 year old African descendant male living in Africa. I’m an athlete, I play rugby for fitness and social. I had a jones fracture at home after missing a step and landed on a hard plastic toy with my 5th metatarsal in October 2023 and today is the 22nd of January 2024. I never went through surgery and I never stopped using the foot because I’m self employed. I’ve started physiotherapy at home through TH-cam. It’s showing progress because I can now walk properly and jog a little. I feel pain here and there especially when I’m resting at night after work. Eating healthy organic foods, cutting out processed foods, processed sugar and almost all unhealthy junk & drink loads of water will speed up the recovery.
Same !! 3 days ago
@@raquelvangeldere157 get well soon
thats great to know you are well on your way! i too suffered a jones feb 10…stepped over shoes scattered on the floor at the foot of a staircase. no surgery necessary (thankfully), and i am keeping all weight off my foot for a few more weeks, i think. like yourself, keeping up my spirits, eating well, hydrating, and doing a whole lot of cooking..keeps me moving and happy.
Great advice, it’s hard to tell, but I think my red light therapy and PMF that I do both at home have also really been helping
Hi Adam, I'm now 12 weeks post injury - we had also agreed to going with a natural healing approach. Just been told my break is not healing and I will need an operation. Thank you for your video - really informative.
Hi, did you have surgery? How's your foot now?
I've booked for a surgery this Saturday March 30. I'm worried if that's the right decision.
Thanks for your detailed and clear explanation. Will keep on dealing with this weird feeling of getting only slightly better after 12 weeks but yet not feeling quite ready for jogging.
I ran a half marathon 12 months after break, its hard to imagine at 12 weeks, but it will happen!
@@AdamStuart1i have same fracture 2 days back,which pain killers you have taken and for how many days??
I can thank you enough for this video.
Very thoughtful and helpful. I broke my 5th metatarsal few days ago and I am so worried about when I'll be able to train hard again. I guess time is the heal. Thank you and glad you are able to run again.
Vey how yoi feel no? I brokenit 2 days a god and il wearingncas the doctor said 45 days
Thank you for your info I’m going on 2 years in January…..no surgery I walk 4 miles every day thank GOD ……
Thank you. This was very helpful for me ❤
Thank you for this! Broke my 5th after rolling it at football. Was worried about the look of my xray and the need for surgery, but this video has really helped me! A nasty injury that’s so basic.
If Rooney can recover from it so can you!
Very helpful Adam
I suffered jones fracture on 6th Oct,2022. Today marks exactly 1week post and I’ve been in a half cast for 6days now. You’ve given me hope of not having to go through the surgery process…. Patience is all it takes ❤
😭 I got a Jones fracture on June 10th and after 5 months of being non weight bearing, it not healing etc I had surgery yesterday 😞 I am in excruciating pain. Prayers for everyone else going through this.
Update?
@@jameelhilal220 I’m not sure if you were asking me for a update, but incase you were- I am now 7 weeks post op, I’m still non weight bearing and waiting for a bone stimulator to be sent from workers comp to help the bone heal with the screw. The pain now is tolerable, at night especially my foot throbs and if I try to put any weight on it I scream because it hurts so bad. I know everyone is different though. My Jones fracture didn’t heal on it own and it’s now been almost 7 months since I fractured it. I’m praying that with the bone stimulator it will heal because if it doesn’t then I have to have another surgery to have the entire 5th metatarsal bone replaced with a cadaver bone. My understanding is that where Jones fractures occur their is extremely little blood supply which is what makes them extremely difficult to heal. I’m praying for everyone that has to go through this- the pain after surgery was the worst pain I’ve ever experienced (and I had 2 kids naturally) lol
@@rebeccalynn6734 All best wishes for your full recovery. These injuries are so traumatic. The mind has to heal too.
@@rebeccalynn6734oh my. Sorry to hear that. Sounds horrific 😢. I just fractured mine, and now in a cast for just over a week. Pain is minimal. Keeping fingers crossed.
Hi Adam... Wow, the way you tripped is almost identical to my misstep on a rocky beach here in Malta. 10 days ago while I was walking a dog and chatting away to someone without paying attention. I kept walking the dog for about 30 minutes when I thought 'Yeah, something is really not right'. Went to the hospital the next day and had an Xray, was told it was the fifth metatarsal, was given a boot and crutches, told to make a physio appt in a week and sent on my way. Doc said no surgery required.
The first 48 hrs I'd say were really hard and painful, but I only ever took two painkillers and used some CBD cream. I love the boot! Got the hang of it right away and made sure to use crutches to keep my gait even. I was really tired the first week - going to bed super early, needing to nap- but I noticed yesterday I am back on sched with waking up at my usual time. I have dropped all dog walking apart from one 'easy' dog, as well as my own older one who I walk in the morning but a friend walks in the evening, and wear the boot all day. I had my first physio appt two days ago and another today. They are doing heat therapy, some massage, electrical and magnet therapy for now. Today I was told it's looking good- swelling down and bruising almost gone, and I have started 'toe wiggles' and can move my foot forward and back at the ankle no problem. I haven't yet tried to put weight on it but when the boot is off I can walk on my heel (with a crutch).
Loading up on vitamins and protein. Before my injury I walked on average 2-3 hours a day and did yoga and Pilates so I'm hoping this speeds my recovery but I know I have to be patient.
So happy I found this!
sending positive vibes! it will all be a distant memory in no time for you!
Thanks very useful, much appreciated
I really appreciate you sharing! I found out yesterday that I fractured my 5th metatarsal and I go back in a few days to discuss if surgery is needed. I’d really rather let my body heal itself; I’m not an athlete and don’t mind if it takes longer. Thank you!
I am 74 years old and broke my foot the third fourth and fifth metatarsal about four weeks ago. I had surgery and pins in my foot. My foot is burning and it feels like electric shocks going through my foot and lower lake. It is still swollen And pretty uncomfortable. I have a stroller for using in the house and crutches outside with a boot. I get around pretty well and after the 6 to 8 weeks to be very mobile again I’m sure it will take more time for rehab and get back to normal activities Can’t wait. Your video was very helpful and very informative. Thank you very much.
This video really helped my anxiety with my 5th metatarsal break...Orthopedic said no surgery, but it could take 6 months to heal. Thank you for this information.
Thanks for sharing your story. I broke the shaft bone of my 5th metatarsal two weeks ago. No exciting story, just missed a step carrying in groceries. I’m in a full boot and see the orthopedic specialist in three days. Hoping for no surgery. Appreciate the insight.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I rolled my ankle in mid Jan, avulsion fracture to base of 5th MT. My 5th fracture in 12 months (track cyclist!). Others were wrists and hands from high velocity crashes (lost a LOT of skin!). The MT has been a nightmare, as it was an instant stop to training. But - decided to just keep positive and rehab to the max. Have been meticulous in planning time every morning for a full hours rehab or gym work. Lucky that I have a garage gym tho.
Currently ending week 6 today. In Aircast Short Boot, but transitioning out and walking in the house. Was off crutches at the end of week 2. Rehab is all physio approved "... as long as in the boot ...": Bench Press, Shoulder Press, Abs, Leg Curls, Squats (around 20kgs only), Deadlifts (up to 55kgs), Hip Thrusts, Landmines etc. Managing 45 minutes on the Wattbike, made up of 10 mins warm-up, then alternating single-leg drills, then warm down. Can do just over 500w on the fractured foot side at the moment (in the Aircast of course!).
Supplementing daily: Vit C, Vit D, Q10, NMN, Hydrolyzed Collagen, Clear Protein, Iron. Clean, balanced diet. Tee-total already.
Cons review and imaging on Monday, so fingers crossed! I've seen videos from people who took months to recover, and some who claimed to be back to normal at 6 weeks. Just be you! Work inside of pain, play it safe at all times, do your rehab. You will heal.
Very helpful video - thank you for sharing your experience. Would you be able to share at what point you stopped feeling actual pain around the area of the fracture itself (i.e. how many weeks/months in)?
Nondisplaced fracture 5th metatarsal last week. I was working at my desk at home, and had no idea my foot or leg had fallen asleep. Stood up and took a step and fell immediately. I looked down at my foot as I fell and it was completely sideways with all my weight on it. Went to urgent care for X-rays.
I have an appointment tomorrow and it’s healing very well already. I do not want a cast. Anxious to see what they say tomorrow. I’m very encouraged watching your progress that was done without months in a cast. I’m guessing that using your leg and ankle as it healed seemed to speed your recovery. Thank you so much for posting this. I am also a fan of “natural healing”.
Updates?
Exactly what happened to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Update: almost seven weeks now. Never wore my short boot at home. Only wore it when I left the house. First day in tennis shoes yesterday. Went for slow 1.5 mile walk. My opposite hip hurts from limping the past few weeks. Trying very hard to to walk normal, even weight. But foot feels good. Hurt more in the boot than barefoot 🤷🏼♀️
@lisadamele1108 Tomorrow will mark 6 weeks for me. I'm baring weight on it quite well, and I haven't worn a boot at all. I'm no longer limping. I have another review with the hospital in 3 more weeks so hopefully me being out of the boot doesn't show up on the xrays lol.
A few tips for recovery that helped me: Obviously try to stay off it as much as possible. Good diet. Take calcium and vitamin D supplements. Due to lack of blood supply down there, I like to soak my foot in warm water to help blood flow twice a day.
@@johnsonwithat2322 Good tips! ✅ on the diet and vitamins. I also sat in the sun for 15 min a day when possible for Vitamin D. Gave my foot a little massage daily, and played my Tibetan bowl next to it for vibrational healing ! 😄 lol whatever works!
Thanks for explaining just how severe my broken foot is & shedding light on why they immobilized mostly my ankle when it was my foot that was broken.
I'm still recovering from a Jones fracture.
Jones are notorious for poorer healing outcomes due to the injury being in the "watershed" region of the 5th metatarsals blood supply. Hope you're doing better!
I m 17, i have a cracked (hairline) on 5th metatarsal dr told me to put a cast on for 20 days after these days when my cast off, i have a pain on 5th metatarsal just normals pain and swilling too, dr said it'll be fine after 1 week I ask him to do an x ray he said no cuz i wanna see if it heal or not....
thanks for sharing the experience, I am also suffering from fifth metatsal fracture recently, but luckily the injury is in the zone named " dstress fracture", so I guess it might get recovery eariler than your experienced one.
Thanks for the video. Very well done and presented. Would you let me know the recovery shoe Brand/model that tou used at the beggining of your recovery? Regards
Hi Adam! I did the same thing a little over a week ago. I went to the ER who gave me a boot and scheduled an appointment with a orthopedic doctor, coming up on the 5th of April. I can't put much weight on it currently without pain so since I know it's a fracture, I'm totally not going to push it until I see the specialist. The grinding feeling makes me sicker than the pain when that squishy grinding stuff happens Lol
Walking/hobbling to get around my house feels much better without the boot which squeezes and puts too much pressure on the area, so I've only gone out once with the boot outside to walk at the grocery store for 20 minutes with my husband. After coming back home, I took the boot off which was almost as painful as when I broke it, so I've just decided to stay off of it 99% of the time with short trips to the bathroom. It's funny, sitting around is driving me nuts, but I can't forget the squishing and grinding feeling. So sit, I shall, and happy I will try and be.
Glad you're recovered now.
Broke my 5th metatarsal about the same time as you. Get yourself a knee scooter, It will help you to get around. I'm coming up 4 weeks and I am able to walk in my boot for a short period of time. Secret to quick healing is Vitamin D, increase your intake on calcium type of foods. Ice it to decrease swelling. Massage the bottom of your foot especially near the plantar area to increase blood flow. Wiggling your toes helps as well
This was very helpful thank you
Broke mine 5 weeks ago hospital said 4-6 weeks I’ll be running I really don’t think so found this really helpful well done on the content 👍
Really great video, just been diagnosed with fractured 5th metatarsal yesterday, I did it 9 days ago running with my dogs and rolled on my foot, then I kept doing jobs helping my son move and clean his flat. Then went back to work yesterday after my week off. After 3/4 hours on kitchen floor I was in so much pain. So decided to go A&E and yes find out with X-ray, so now got a big boot for next 6 weeks. Thanks for sharing your experience with your broken foot. Hope your fully recovered now? Great video 👍
Sorry to hear of your troubles, I feel for you! Glad you found some value in the video. I am at t+13 months now and I would say 95% healed, I run without pain every day, but every now and again you get the odd twinge when twisting in the wrong direction.
@@AdamStuart1 it was a really helpful video and appreciate the time you took in doing it, was well put together. Wow been a long road for 13 months. But happy your pretty much recovered from it. Gives me a good idea of my recovery time frame. 👍
Thank you for talking about this! Also I somehow absolutely enjoy the way you did this presentation. ❤ Also rubberboots are the worst 😬 I am also waiting for a MRT that probably will kill all ,y Halfmarathon running build up. So funny that one that still thinks ‚but perhaps I can run with this?‘
very useful video . Thanks
Thank you, I stubbed my toe so hard. I’m sure I had fractures somewhere in my first and second toes. I started compensating by walking on the outside of my foot, and that caused a stress fracture of my fifth metatarsal. Very slow healing, doing PEMF, red light therapy, icing, and I’ve ordered a boot
Thank you for this
Your video is really helpful, Adam. Thank you! My accident 9 days ago was really silly. I literally slipped off the edge of a doormat and heard the crack! I've received conflicting advice from the docs. The main fracture is a pseudo-Jones (Zone 1 near the ankle) but there's a sort of "branch" or secondary thin fracture on the edge of the Jones area (Zone 2). So, doc #1 (a podiatrist) called it a Jones and therefore said I should be NWB. Doc #2 (an orthopedic surgeon) calls it a pseudo-Jones and WB in a supportive shoe is fine as pain allows. I was confused and have decided to do my own "hybrid" treatment: wear the boot (it hurts to put my foot into a shoe) but put a little weight on it while using crutches. To be continued! Your video is encouraging and a reminder of the power of the body to heal itself when we are patient. All the best to you!
Good luck with your journey Claire. "This too shall pass" 🙂
Thanks this was helpful!
hi, after 6 weeks with the boot i’ve started to walk again with the crutches but i see the bone trought out my skin, according to you is it normal?have you experienced the same
Very informative, thank you. I'm 11 weeks after same fracture along with sprained ankle. I used a boot and scooter, Dr. said no weight bearing. I'm walking now without boot and it's really painful. Also back pain from being down. I'm wondering if it's normal to still feel so much pain after this long? Is it good to walk on it even if it hurts?
Thank you Adam for this video. In my opinion, your video was more helpful than anything else I could find. Like you I was told 3 mos before I could return to running, but I think that won’t be the case for me (It’s been 9 weeks since my 5th MT Avulsion fracture and I don’t think I’ll be ready to run at 12weeks). My question for you - did you find you were still limping even after the pain had receded? I’m finding it difficulty returning to a natural gait despite very little pain at this point. I think my brain is telling my body to protect my foot and thus the limp remains… it is getting better, but I have to consciously tell myself to walk normally! Thx again for your help
Yes I had a "mental limp" for quite some time, wanting to protect that foot. I can tell you now, at nearly 24 month post break, that is completely gone. But even after 12 months I did not feel 100% doing full effort leaps etc, changing direction fast playing football was still playing on my mind.... those fast twitch movements are very different to repeated predictable movements like running, at least that was my experience.
I also got an avulsion fracture in knee 5 months post op walking seems normal but very minor pain while using stair so how long did you feel pain after fracture
Hey Adam
I really appreciate your video - it's far more relatable when a patient talks about their experience of a fracture rather than a doctor saying what to expect. I have also had a 5th metatarsal fracture & am currently in my 3rd week. Fingers-crossed 🤞I can get out of this mess soon, & hopefully then, I'll make a similar video to you as a way of sharing my experience & providing support to others who may find themselves in similar situation
I really appreciate this video. I am in the states, and I just had my 12 week appointment for my fifth metatarsal avulsion fracture. I am officially in “delayed union.” I’m frustrated though, because my doctor is telling me to stay off my foot if it hurts, and I feel like that’s delaying the healing. I can’t walk more than about half a block without it hurting
Hey there, do you recommend any shoes that will help with recovery?
Hi Adam, thank you so much for creating this video of your fracture experience. My dr has diagnosed me with a right fifth metatarsal fracture, minimally displaced, in Zone 1. Zone 1 is the area where your fracture is, the Jones fracture is in Zone 2, and stress fractures occur in Zone 3. My dr does not refer to my break as an avulsion. We are treating it non surgically, although I had another dr want to do surgery immediately. Both drs have told me I’m predisposed to this fracture as a side effect of a cavovarus foot deformity or subtle cavus foot. Do you have this as well? I’ve been wearing a boot for Five weeks now. Just had a follow up appt with X-rays three days ago. Dr said appropriate, moderate healing at this point and instructed me to begin weaning myself from the boot into normal stiff souled sneakers. He said take two weeks to do the transition, then I can go to just wearing the normal shoes. I go back for a follow up in six weeks. I’m excited for the progress and still very nervous about proceeding all at the same time. My dr did tell me at my last visit that complete healing will take months, just like you are saying. I’m presuming that by moving into normal shoes, this encourages normal foot movement and promotes healing. Is this your experience? Also, can you tell me if feeling some pain when transitioning is normal? Im just beginning the transition/weaning period and feel a bit of achiness but nothing dreadful. Just wondering if what I’m feeling is normal and good. I’m not a runner, but am an avid walker with my dog. I’m so looking forward to getting back to my walking routine of 2-3 miles per day. Thanks for any feedback and hope you are still continuing healthily on your journey with your foot!
I did not have "cavovarus foot deformity or subtle cavus foot". All I can say, is that time is a great healer. As per the video I was jogging at 6 months, and after 12 months I am running just as fast as pre-break. The first 6 months are really tough, and I certainly experienced some discomfort when starting to move again. It does get better though, you just cant rush it.
Hi Adam, thanks for this video, such a helpful one this is!
So I have fractured my 3rrd & 4th metatarsal and after a night at hospital on the injury day, a doc called me from Fracture clinic at my local hospital and explained I don't need a surgery at this stage but an air boot I will be given. So I am keen on a second thought from a Bupa specialist as you've noted. Can you please tell how the Bupa doctor access to your x ray, as my local hospital usually don't hand these results to the patients? I'm glad to hear, you are now better, up and literally running. ( it was quite relieving to see you were able to take that trip with your family on the 8th week too. Fingers crossed )
I took a copy of my x-ray with me on paper to private appointment - all the best with your recovery
Been in a boot for 5 days can I go back to skating it was 99% healed last time I had went for X-rays witch was 5 days ago as well.
Hi Adam, thank you so much. I fell on the last step of a staircase last July 23, 2022 and X-Ray showed a horizontal non-displaced fracture 1.7 cm from the 5th metatarsal. Ortho said no surgery, just wearing an aircast boot. Lots of bruises, similar to yours and swelling. Into the 5th week now and bruises starting to fade but still slight swelling. Like you, I did not take any medication aside from the first day. Feeling scared and impatient. Am using an iwalk crutch in the house so I don't put any weight on my foot as much as possible. It seems to take such a long time. Your video really helped plus the visuals. Thanks again.
Hello Corylynn - my injury was exactly like yours. I wore a short aircast boot for 4 weeks then switched to running shoes. 9 weeks now since injury and can walk pain-free for about 1km. How was the rest of your recovery? Would love to hear more of your story
Thanks so much Adam for putting in the effort and time to share your experience in such detail. I suffered an avulsion fracture a week ago. Thought it was a sprain and tried to walk it off. Now it has turned out to be a fracture without displacement. The doc has put me in a cast for 3 weeks. Dont you feel that a boot is a better and more , if I may use the word, comfortable option. The cast has completely restricted any movement of the entire foot.
Seeing your injury video sent shivers....I could recollect the pain again
Thanks for the video. I broke mine running on a trail and my biggest worry is when I will be able to get back to running.
Exactly the same. Even when I was hobbling back up the drive, after feeling the bone misplaced, my thoughts were of annoyance and the future missed running! Since this video I have transitioned more to mixed activities, but still walk ~7 miles a day, with no ill effects from the break. Good luck with your recovery Jack.
Thank you so much for this video! It really brings me hope of my injury healing without surgery. Almost 5 weeks ago I was rushing down the stairs and I missteped and had the exact same injury as you. First it was really painful and I could see a similar bone/ swelling sticking out but I assumed it was a normal sprain similar to what I had before playing football so I treated it with icing and wrapping it tight. After 3 days pain went away except for intense movement and I resumed partially my normal activities. One week later and upon my foot not doing better I decided to go check at the hospital after doing my research and self diagnosing a possible 5th metatarsal fracture. Doctor saw it and I explained everything and told about my speculation and he confirmed the injury but said that it is not a big deal since I can normally walk without severe pain and that it will heal by itself if I don't push it, but me reading all those papers on the Internet insisted on an x-ray. The doctor agreed and after seeing the x ray it was actually fractured zone 1 and the doctor was surprised because he said usually people couldn't walk on it and move. He put me into a cast and had me come every week to x ray to make sure that there is no displacement. The problem is, every week a different doctor see me, and tell me a new story, and one of them said I might need surgery since there is no progress after 3 weeks. I live in Japan and my Japanese not at the level to discuss difficult medical stuff and not all doctors here speak English so I was really confused, but then the initial doctor confirmed no displacement and some progress in the bone healing. Now the possibility of a surgery has decreased and he change me to half cast that I can take off from time to time but still no weight bearing. It has been 1 month now and I am supposed to remove the cast completely in 2 weeks since the doctors said it is ok, but the bone shape is still weird and it seems to be sticking out a bit still and I can't tell if it's the bone or a swelling around it (Has the bone that was sticking out completely healed and went back to normal shape for you after a certain time or is it still like you showed in the early injury picture?). Well hopefully I can go back to normal soon and that it heals without complications and without need for a surgery, I really don't want to undertake a surgery while abroad :/
Again thanks for the great video and feedback, and to all of you going through a similar experience I wish you good health !
I can tell you that now, even after 18 months and what feels like 99% healing, the bone is still very strangely shaped! It will be like that for life now, new bone is created around the break and creates new bone to hold it all together. Good luck on your journey
@@AdamStuart1 oohh I see, it makes sense, but hopefully, we don't develop any chronic pain or complications in the future 🙏 thanks for clearing that up!
Were you able to drive. In first five months.
Thank you for this video! I just broken the V metatarsal between the head and the will call the neck. The doctor put a cast. It is painful, this video it is great and informative. I appreciate it. It give me hope of recovery ❤️🩹
My experiences: I had a nasty avulsion fracture which was more than 2mm wide. Hospital recommended surgery, i had it a week later. It was compression screwed tightly and looked well aligned on the x ray. Foot was looking and feeling horrible for 2-3 weeks. After that recovery went surprisingly quickly. After 4.5 weeks i started wearing normal shoes again around the house, and now at 7 weeks I do 4 KM threadmill walks at 4 KMH without pain or discomfort (still taking it easy though, there's still a little bit of tenderness). I will likely leave the screw in; as it does not seem to cause any issues. In my case I am pretty confident the surgery sped things up by closely aligning the bone. The only tip i can give others: Listen to your body and take it easy. Be gentle but also don't immobilise yourself if it feels right to move. The first 4 weeks i got clear signals from the foot that i was pushing it a bit too much (walking with the boot, etc) - then i took a bit more rest right away. I am an otherwise healthy early forties male. Those who are looking this up after their freak accident fracture, i wish you a good recovery - the first weeks are hell, but after that you will feel it get better every day!
How many days it take to recover
Hello! Thank you for sharing! My bone completely healed after 7 weeks in a boot, and I’ve been experiencing insane amount of pain since I took off the boot. Did this happen to you?
As I talk about in the video, I did not wear a boot, only a stiff shoe.
I had the same a week ago I wrap my foot with fresh turmeric roots drink turmeric milk warm it helps with bruises blood cloth
After the fracture when you had your first step with that foot?
I have a plaster for 6 weeks mine fracture is same like urz… my fifth week has just finished… just waiting to visit doctor and hoping situation is better with my broken bone! I still didnt put any weight on that!
How it is now?
2 months ago I rolled my foot fractured number two and number four didn't get an x-ray until I started having numbness tingling and stinging if you think you broke something see a doctor as quick as you can it's been 2 months and still having major problems with it I wish I had haven't checked out the next day!!
My foot was numb from sitting in a bad position, I stood up too fast and rolled it. Heard a snap. Went for an x-ray a few days later and they say I have an acute nondisplaced fifth metatarsal base fracture. Hurts to walk, and I'm worried about making it worse if I put weight on it.
Thank you for sharing your story. It is astounding that you did not need surgery on a displaced metatarsal. I am currently in week 4 of the 5th metatarsal base fracture & stumbled upon your video. I'm glad you are doing better! How is the foot doing now? Any lingering or long term pain? Are you able to perform all physical activities that stress your foot?
Hi - thanks for your comment. I think the UK certainly takes a conservative approach to surgery on foot bone breaks, arguably too conservative in an effort to reduce expensive surgeries. The foot is doing good, I am now at t+9 months and back running 100+ miles per month. Steady exercise such as that is no problem at all. Movement that involves sudden change of direction (basketball, football etc) are still a no go. No pain in the foot, just does not feel strong enough yet for high impact, could be more mental that physical.
Hi! Wanted to know was the fracture that you had completely displaced (rotated) from the original bone site ?
I only know that it was displaced. I don't know what the definition of "completely" is, in this case. It was offset from its original placement, and was more than a simple hairline fracture. As per the xray shown in the video.
I also don't know if it was rotated, and by how much. I even had a CT scan, and it was hard to tell. The consultants/Dr assessing did not make too much commentary on angle of displacement.
@@AdamStuart1 oh alright thank you!! I have a displaced metatarsal fracture too! Now on week 2 of non weight bearing. I have a smaller chunk of bone pulled off from the base of the 5th metatarsal but it has rotated so the doctor was checking if I'd want surgery. I don't think there's clear research on this yet as the body can adapt to the fracture, just as how it happened in your case and form new bone around the original site. Hope to make a smooth recovery without surgery. Thanks again!
@@nessd7356 Good luck, I really feel for you at that early stage, but it will get better! PS. I am now at almost one year since breaking my foot. I've ran almost 700 miles and no longer have any sort of pain. I will say there are still some things I cannot do, like fast turn movements, kicking a football hard. Consultant said it might take 2 years to reach full strength.
@@AdamStuart1 thanks , definitely need all the luck i can get!! Great to know that you're all fine now. Keep going and all the very best to you too.
Hello Adam again.
Sorry for bothering you. I promise you this is my last question.
How long did you wear your stiff shoe?
Untill X RAY showed that bone is totally healed or untill you felt comfortable enough to get back in your regular shoe?
Physio advised me to get out of the stiff shoe asap, I was out of it by about 3-4 months, before I felt comfortable, but they said get using it as soon as possible.
Hi. Would you mind to share what is boot product name that you use? I broke mine (avulsion fracture) 6 weeks ago and has just removed plester cast. When about to walk, i walk painful 😢 thank you high appreciate it.
@@febriyani9000 no idea sorry was provided by the NHS
Hi Adam, what was your walking like after surgery? Im waiting for surgery then worried about walking after.
As per video I did not have surgery.
Hi, did you later had your surgery? I've booked for surgery this Saturday March 20
Fractured my fifth metatarsal 29 days ago. Not that I'm counting lol. Can't wait until I can walk again. Patience is really the key. On a positive note, the incident has helped me focus on clean eating and proper vitamin supplementation. I'll certainly be more careful for the rest of my life. A one-second turned ankle has resulted weeks of misery.
Im fractured metatarsal day 21 so we're in the same boat.. i agree. These have been dark times for me but i think ill have a fresh and more positive outlook when im on the other side. I took a lot of things for granted before this bs
@@hayleybarbara1589ditto here. Injured my left ankle 7 weeks ago. My life has altered considerably. I’ve been in tears many times as I’m 66 and worry I’ll never be the same again. But I’m keeping positive and this video has helped me to accept that the healing process takes a lot more time than I thought
Thanks for the video inflicting confidence to face such mishaps in life for many like me who had a slip and got my left ankle broke I met an Ortho who diagnosed after an x ray that I got Jones fracture at 5 th metatarsal base
He has put me on cast for 4 weeks and asked me to wear brace for another two weeks
Now after another x ray he said that I can start walking carefully and he said that it would take another 6 months more to reach normal bone strength as I am 76 now
I am walking just carefully and looking for good old days Any way my understanding and experience is that once fractured bones to reach its original form is just gamble looking for luck with all sorts of bone strengthening supplements and regular visits to Ortho docs etc
Thank you so much for taking the time for this video recap. This helps so much to all of those that experienced similar injury. I have an almost similar injury like yours where the tip of the 5thM bone got pulled off last few days and not sure what to do ... with your video, it is encouraging and full recovery is promissing. Want to ask you regarding your injury. You mentioned that the injured bone feel a bit off compared to your non-injured one. How so? and did you ever re-xray it to confirm that it is completely healed? are you fully back to your normal activities and sports, etc.? walking, running, biking, tennis, lifting, etc.? appreciate your comments to all. - Steve
Thanks and good luck with your healing. I never had an X-ray to confirm recovery . Consultant said to go by feel, and only X-ray if it’s symptomatic. I am nearly 3 years post break now. After 2 years I still had the odd ache, but now there is nothing. I am back running 1000 miles per year. No issues jumping or playing football etc. still have a mental tick when doing torsion style movements on the planted foot, turning on a basketball court for example, always reminds me of the break. The bone still feels strange to touch, points out more, and the tendon is embedded further in to the flesh than the other foot.
Thank you so much for your update. Since yours is a major fracture and now that you’re back to 100% full recovery and activity, does the bone fused back or just hard cartilage that bridging between them? Again, much appreciated your times and good luck to a successful recovery road ahead. St
@@stevethai2836 I’m not sure because I never had the X-ray post healing. The consultant told me it would be new bone and it feels solid so I assume that. The area is definitely larger to touch, representative of a larger mass of bone.
@@AdamStuart1 Question. Thank you again for your replies. Want to know if your swollen persisted thru the 3+ mos period, and if you have had a calf muscle soreness on the injured foot for the duration as well? i started walking again slowly in the walking cam boot but learned my calf sored and foot still swollen at the eod...want to know if this is expected....? thx
@@stevethai2836 I cannot remember now when my foot swelling went down. I never had muscle soreness. I would encourage you to check in with your medical professional if you have any concerns.
I just got the surgery last week, 4 days after initial fracture. Im 33, very athletic, active, daily basketball or gym. No way im risking letting it heal on its own without the support of a screw. I can weight bear and walk in a boot 2 weeks after surgery
Hello!
I’m in day 16 from 5th metatarsal avulsion fracture and I have a walking boot and the same shoe you have. My two questions for you are did your foot tingle at times and if so, how long did you experience this?
The strap on the boot & shoe crosses over my fracture and hurts to walk with either unless I use crutches and barely put weight on the foot. I gathered from your video that you did not use crutches just straight to walking in the shoe?
Hi love , I’m currently healing from the same. I experienced the same pain with that strap across the boot. Try putting on a thick sock to give it some extra comfort that helped me a lot while in that walking boot
Hi DJ,
I went back to the surgeon for additional X-rays and they showed zero healing to the bone! I’m starting physical therapy this week for at least 4 more weeks and will have X-rays again after. So depressing! My surgeon told me to get out of the boot but it’s impossible to “walk.” He also thinks I’m getting complex regional pain syndrome because I still have bruising at 5 weeks, major swelling and my foot is cold.
How are you healing?
@@angelam5013 omgoodness, I’m actually in my second cast right now ! And i see my doctor every 2 weeks it’s been 4 weeks total and i go back to see them on my 5th week . I have no pain anymore , no bruising anymore from what seen on the X-ray my callus is started already so I’m in the rebuild stage which is when the bone is trying to connect back together . I’m so sorry it has to suck hearing your not healing , is there a reason they didn’t put you in a cast that may be why!!
I’m so happy for you (and jealous). I went to PT today for the first time and the therapist seemed concerned that I was starting therapy without any bone regrowth. She thinks the regional pain syndrome is playing a big factor in my non healing. Ill go 3 days per week and see if it helps over the next 4 weeks.
The Dr here in the US said it’s not typical to cast this type of break and a walking shoe or air boot is better. Apparently not. Please keep me posted on your healing!
@@angelam5013 yea that’s actually what i heard as well as reading , but for whatever reason my doctor cast me and i been healing great . But even though i wish i wasn’t in a cast and wish i was in a boot . Does he want you to start walking on it ?
Did you have to take syringes against blood clotting? blood thinners?
Take vit c, 8-10g per day
I did, I took them for about a week and a half but I asked for the pill form, the injection caused a burning sensation.
Hello Adam! I’m a professional soccer player but I injured my leg and the doctor told me that I have a Jones fracture in zone 2. I want to know from you how long I can return to the game. at the moment I'm wearing a shoe and how long will it take me to walk normally for the daily routine? I’m in the 3rd week of the injury. I would be grateful if you answer me back !
I have no idea, sorry.
@@AdamStuart1 Thank you ! Morale is low 😔
Daily routine, I d say 3 months after injury. That was me 2 months ago, still had pain but could walk 4-5km a day to commute to office. Now 4.5 months later, less pain, mobility almost back, starting to hop and jump again... But not easy. Be patient, you will get there!
@@macadam678 Hello ! How are you today ? Today I am fixed in the 8th week of the injury. I'm on the 5th day of physiotherapy and I feel a little better, I still feel a little pain when I move, although I try to walk 100% normally by moving 30-40 minutes a day. I wanted to ask something if it is possible. Is it normal to still have pain and when can I be ready to start playing again ?
I have fracture base 5th metatarsal near in 2 months but the xray says its not totally healed, there's delayed healing. Im worried. What should i do?
Talk to your Dr.
Here after breaking my 5th metatarsal two days ago, tripped while walking and probably fell the same as you. There must be something about the month of July…
My avulsion fracture has been pretty painful for 16 weeks now due to Chronic Regional Pain Syndrome which I attribute to the weight of the CAM boot which was so heavy on the injury site. It has healed, but am left with chronic pain due to vasoconstriction and deep bone aches in the ankle and shin. I am coming out of the critical phase but my hips and knee are stuffed. My gait is wonky needing expert and slowly, measured physio so as not to cause flare ups. If your broken foot is still very red or darker than your good foot after the boot comes off, or you find you cannot stand anything touching your foot, ie socks, sheets, and you have severe pain after 10 weeks, go see a specialist who knows CRPS. 12 months is my goal for normal walking.
Good luck with your recovery
Just had a displaced jones fracture. Two weeks before my freshman year of college starts. I’m going out of state all alone now and very worried
That’s crazy. I broke 4 metatarsals completely and didn’t get near that bruising. Wow.
I had a surgery ( k wires to support the bone fractures) .
Now Into my 7th week after fracturing 5th metatarsal at the base .
After 6 weeks had my 2nd X-ray.
Doctor said minimum callus formation . But doctor advised to start putting weight using the cast.
Taking calcium and vitamin d supplements.
In few days my cast will come off . Hoping to be back to walking in few weeks.
I walk using cast and a walker and feel comfortable .
Hi, how are you now? How's your foot? I'm about to go into surgery this Saturday March 30.
I'm worried.
I had my cast removed after 7 weeks . Used air cast boot for 2 weeks but felt uncomfortable with k wire . On advise I removed the k wires in 10th week.
It’s 13 weeks now since surgery . I am using normal shoes and clocking 3 km per day walking . Sone discomfort due to inactive muscles of ankle and calf.
@@milindnamjoshi8099 wow, that's good to know. I'm done with the surgery.
In my case, I have a small plate and six screws fitted in. It's terrible.
I hope to recover as soon as possible. I'm really anxious about the possibility of removing all these metals from my foot. It's much.
Who adviced you to remove the k wires?
My orthopaedic surgeon looked at the x ray and a decision was made that the bone fragment have joined together. although the callus was still soft.
Additionally k wires were causing discomfort and since I started moving around and since the wound was exposed to water he advised to get it removed to avoid any bacterial infection .
One week After removing k wires ;the progress was better as well.
@@milindnamjoshi8099 wow, that's good to know. I'll have my stitches removed probably 2 weeks from now. I'll have the x-ray done at the same time. Then I'll be in full cast for another 2 weeks.
Only after that cast is removed will I know if it's bearable to move around with these stuff in my foot.
It’s been 77 days
I fractured my bone trying to Ollie 6 skateboard, that shit was super high, I managed to clear it but landed on my ankle and yea… still feel pain when I walk
i just can’t wait to get back to skating:(
anybody help?
Time will help, just need to be patient. 77 days is not really anything for a fracture.
Nhs 111 told me not to go to hospital i went anyway and found it was fractured. Was walking on it for 10 days and then was given a boot.
Thanks for sharing. I am into about 3rd week of the same injury (5th Metatarsal based fracture). I twisted my left ankle while walking down stair. Fell and landed on my foot in twisted position. I were two steps from garage floor. A stupid fall too. I had 2.5mm displacement. ER put me in long air boot, NWB till I saw orthopaedic surgeon on about day 10th. Confirm no surgery. Doctor said I can continue airboot or regular shoes (NWB or WB , doesn’t matter). Let my comfort level decided when to start walking. Walk with pain is normal just not too painful. I am a little reluctant to walk. The swelling is still bad, especially evening. It won’t fit in my regular shoes.
I talked to my physio… she suggested 4 weeks in air boot, NWB. I use mobility device to help me around now. I have arthritis on my back and hip. NWB is harsh on back and hips. Then walk with support. Doc said 2-4 months to heal. I am relieved seeing you walk early on. I am prepared for 6 months as needed. I wish I can get back swimming sooner. It’s my cardio and back conditioning exercise.
I want to know did you have pain when you start walk with your boot ? Did you just walk with any support like crutch or walker ? 10 days after your injury, did you have swelling to your foot ? or cramp in your calf ?
I never used airboot, only the black stiff shoe with raised heel. I did not use regular shoes for quite a while, not surprised your foot is swollen at does not fit in. I certainly had swelling for 2-4 weeks. I had no cramp on my calf. GL!
@@AdamStuart1 Thank you for sharing the recovery experience. It helps. All the best to you !
Hello Adam.
My name is Marjo. I just watched your video because I am in your stuation now😁
I am from Croatia and our way of dealing with that type of injury is little bit different. I have the same injury as you just little less serious. But my doctor didnt gave mi stiff shoe. He immediately put my foot in the cast. I would be very greatfull if you explain me why didnt you doctor recommended you to put your foot in the cast?
What was his explation.
Beacause your way of dealing with the injury,with stiff shoe, is much better for my line of work.
Not sure, apparently in the UK metatarsal fractures are very rarely cast, unless its a Jones Fracture. I think the underlying science is that simply using a stiff shoe, and therefore immobilizing the metatarsal bone, is sufficient. But I did always find it disconcerting not wearing the shoe at night.... it felt "wrong" having a broken bone and going to bed with the foot naked, was already worried about banging it, dislodging the bone etc. In that respect I think a cast is more reassuring.
In additional point would be that whilst reviewing the whitepapers on the subject, you realise that its not just about bone healing, but also maintaining strength and muscle flexibility etc in the foot. From that angle, a cast is much worse. Using a stiff shoe still makes you do some work, and you do not lose much mobility.
Either way, I hope you get better soon! I was worried with all these questions, second guessing etc, but it works out in the end. In 6 months time you will be mostly fixed :)
Adam,first of all thank you for answering so fast.
I was thinking about this and my logic was going toward your way of dealing with this problem.
Is there any diffrence between stiff shoes so I know wich I am gona buy or only what is important that heel take all the weight?
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@@marjosaric4710 Yes the stiff shoe type is important. It has to place all your weight on the heel. (So its not only stiff, with velcro, but also only your heel touches this ground, this disengages the metatarsal). Feels strange walking at first but you get used to it.