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South Coast Daylight Express Train - Sydney to Bomaderry
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2024
- In this video we follow the iconic South Coast Daylight Express as it makes its way South down the Illawarra line from Central to Bomaderry (Nowra).
Taken from three points of view, the driver, passenger and on looker, we track the journey to Nowra while talking about the history of the Iconic train and points of interest as we pass.
There are some great close passes as the diesel locomotive roars past pulling the ex railcar BUD and Tulloch cars.
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I enjoyed this vid so much, Barrie. Living at Loftus, with a view of the railway line from our backyard, we loved looking out for "The Silver Train" each afternoon. When I attended school at Sutherland Public in 1974 & 75, I caught the CPH rail motor to and from each weekday. I vaguely recall one occasion when the CPH was out of action on short notice, and we were allowed to get onto the SCDE, which stopped at Loftus, Engadine, Heathcote, and Waterfall before returning to its usual running schedule. It was a buzz to step onto one of those luxurious Budd cars, even just for that one-stop ride home!
Hi Doug, what a great memory, it's amazing how one train can unlock so many memories from our childhood. I wonder if today's enthusiasts could build similar memories. Thanks so much for sharing and watching. 😃
Thanks for this video!! I transferred to Bommaderry depot as an acting driver in 1991, just bought back some great memories of working down there. Even worked with some of those guys in the video!!
I'm glad I could share it with you. It's good to see familiar faces in these older vids. Thanks for watching
Hi Barrie 👋 I have very fond memories of taking this train twice a year with my mother and grandmother from a very young age. I was so excited to be going on this very long and exciting adventure, with my own little suitcase and a packed lunch. I can almost smell the vinyl seats and feel the wind through the open windows. I was mesmerised by the sea views down the coast while munching on my Vegemite sandwich and glugging down copious amounts of Coka Cola. While everyone else was lauding the introduction of the electric trains, I was mourning the demise of the diesel hauled train. Not that long ago, I boarded the rail motor in Bomaderry for my journey to Sydney and was reminiscing the old days and totally forgot to change at Kiama and awoke while coming into Bomaderry. That was a very long journey to Sydney 😂. Great video, Barrie, and thanks once again for the memories.
Thanks so much John for sharing your stories as always. I could just imagine the type of suitcase you had too. It seemed like such a trip back then with all the sights and sounds that made it exciting for a younger person. Lost some of that character today. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thanks Barrie. Brought back a lot of memories, From travelling on the rear platform of a train hauled by (I think) a 32-class down to Austinmer, to trips on the then self propelled Budds, and most recently the Endeavours. Always a beautiful trip, particularly from Waterfall to Coalcliff, and then the last leg, Kiama to Bomaderry. It was also interesting to see the old footage of the Bomaderry yard, and note the things that are still the same, and those that have changed (I live part time at Bomaderry now).
Hi Ian, yeah the modes have changed a lot over the years but not the route itself that much. I'm sure Bomaderry is a quieter place now for rail traffic. Thanks for watching
9:05 It is good that the Ampol logo still uses the same kind of font today and Caltex is still around. There were a few fuel depots down here for instance the engine shed that used to stand opposite the Dairy Farmers factory was converted into an Esso siding sometime in the 1960s. There was also a Mobil depot running off the Manildra Mill branch, Ampol at the northern end on the western side of the line fed from Port Kembla and possibly Shell across the street but there is no evidence of a level crossing. It possibly ran from behind the depot onto the Manildra Mill branch backwards. V/Line boxcars were seldom seen this far down but were commonly used on Port Kembla - Acacia Ridge Steel Products trains and on the same kind of trains to Dynon.
Hi 007 great to hear from you. Yeah I like when companies hold true to things like that and not rebrand every 5 min. Thanks so much for commenting and adding to the story.
Up until the 38 class came on line after 1943 this train was commonly hauled by the 35 and 36 class locos which were built locally for up to three decades earlier. The SCDE and other Expresses like the Riverina, Newcastle, Southern Highlands etc. became the fast trains of their day when the 38's took over. 3801 set a record back in 1964 for the Newcastle run that stood for many years.
Hi thanks so much for that great info and for adding to the story.
It's remarkable how far the transport system has progressed ,great veiwing!??
Hi Rod. It sure is. Thanks for watching
Fascinating footage. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for sharing, love the old 50’s to 70’s and even 80’s EMD and ALCo motive power 💪
Glad you enjoyed it. Can't beat the older EMDs
You should have included the final Bomaderry to Nowra combined jog and swim.
Great suggestion, thanks for watching
I worked down the Illawarra line in the 80's right through the electrification project, shuntine at Unanderra and signalling at Port Kembla and Dombarton. Doing general relief I managed to work almost every station and signal between Waterfall and Bomaderry. Your video misses a lot of the best scenery on the NSW Railways, but it's a good one regardless. I have many fond memories of that boredom inducing job , waiting for trains.
Hi Kev, yeah the original footage was very limited. There were shots of Kiama station and Wollongong that ended up going in another video as they were on the up to Sydney. Thanks for watching
I once worked at a place opposite the Bomaderry station when we heard the sound of a fettler's trike going flat out and as it got closer, we could see that there was no one it................. about 10 minutes later a steam locomotive arrived with the fettlers on the footplate. It turned out that they had not been informed that there would be an extra train on the line that day. They jumped clear of the trike when they saw the train approaching, however when it hit the trike the throttle was jammed open and away it went! A farmer's wife had seen it happen and rang the station to inform them, so the points were changed to divert it to the end of the line where it hit the buffers, tipped onto its side and was still revving flat out when they got to it. I understand that the then self-propelled Budd set had crossed this train at Berry, the next station along the line.
Hi Bill, it's stories like that, that I love to hear. Thank you so much for sharing it and watching.
@@trainspottingwithbarrie Barrie, I forgot to mention that if the points had not been changed the trike could well have ended up on the road due to repair work being carried out on a set of buffers!
I remember that we once had to reserve our seats on this train. How things have changed.
Hi Arty. Yeah, travel into the booking office at Central and wait in line to speak to a real person. They really have.
The Newcastle Flyer / Express also required seat bookings. Also was air conditioned and had a buffet car as part of the eight car set.
Some great locomotive combinations hauling those sets Barrie, great video. I wonder what happened to those troublesome Budd and Tulloch sets in the end? Scrapped, I presume, don't think any were preserved. I remember seeing one car sitting in a farm paddock somewhere between Molong and Orange I recall. I presume they had a duty electrician on each journey to look after the air conditioning power car?😉
All the Budd cars were scrapped, however I understand that one or two of the Tulloch cars are being restored.
Hi Dave funny you mentioned that, while I was in Canberra skulking around I found 1 single Tulloch car getting restored at the museum. I had a great conversation with the guy restoring it. They actually got the fuel tank for it from the one in orange and a 620 is donating its engine. I got some great photos of it. I'll post in the community later.
VR bought four Tulloch cars and didn’t have much joy with them, at least two remain in preservation, not sure about the other two.
@Billkellett 2 of the Budd cars were destroyed by fire in a siding in Sydney where it was left overnight, in the early 80's a leading carriage PHB 1141 was scrapped due to an accident with a car (they didn't bother rebuilding it) replacing it with a Tulloch carriage
@@stephaniekelly4384 Hi Stephanie, your comment reminded me of the fire but I was unaware that one of other scrapped ones had been involved in an accident. For a time the mix of mostly a 44 class up front and the mix of Budd and Tulloch cars with a red power van became part of the South Coast
It was sad to see the way the Daylight Express ended, set on fire in Sydney 2 Bud cars and a tulluc car destroyed. 1141 Bud scrapped earlier due to a crash (when self propelled) leaving PHB 1142, FPB 1101 1102, BRT 1181, (PHB 1141 Decommissioned). With the fire destroying 1181 and 1102 and part of a Reverina car spelled the Darnell of the train.
Thanks for that detailed info. I was sad too, it had been such a big part of my life. Thanks for watching
Had a full view of the Harrow Road Underpass at Hogben Park between Rockdale and Kogarah between 1947 and 1962. The earliest 'South Coast Daylight' I saw was a streamloned '38' hauling green and cream 'corridor' cars, sometimes a '36' but both were relieved down at Thirroul or somewhere for a lighter '32'. Then came the first air-conditioned cars hauled by a '44 class diesel. Don't remember the Budd Cars. Remember also the ubiquitous end-platform 'Yankee' cars plus 'dogbox' ('Express Lavatory'!) and mail van. At 4 o'clock every afternoon the 'milk train' rolled by with a string of milk pots from Bomaderry.
What great memories, to see a streamlined 38 on that run would have been a sight. Thanks for sharing that great memory
Umm, from the information I have, the 1200 class never worked the South Coast Daylight under their own power. They were only operated on the Riverina Express under their own power. They were de-motored then allocated to the south coast along with the Budd cars.
According to my research, Three 1200s operated with 1100s on the Illawarra, their engines were removed in 1981. I hope you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching.
I've on the SCDE a few times on the Budd RDC. They were always self propelled.
Hi Zeddington, you were lucky to have ridden it, when they still were. Thanks for watching
@trainspottingwithbarrie Thanks Barrie, yes I was.
That train had terrible brakes but that aside. that was my fave run back in the day.
Hi David, thanks a lot for adding to the story and for watching.
I caught a train by this name many years ago - probably early 60s, when it consisted of Budd diesel rail cars. I particularly caught it to try travelling in them. I only went as far as Kiama, where I found a milk-bar to buy my lunch, have the short walk to the blow-hole and catch the returning train. While I can recall making the journey, I have no memory of such details as seat comfort, ride, and noise levels.
Hi Double Dee, I'm glad this video brought back some memories. I took a very similar trip to Kiama on a 620 and sat with the open window the whole way, on arrival in Kiama my face was burning from the wind burn but the burger from the milk bar made it worth it. Thanks for watching
And thanks for posting it@@trainspottingwithbarrie
930am booked seats only
Great memory John. Book your seat at the booking office. Thanks for watching
Did the Budd cars eventually get scrapped?
Hi, yeah unfortunately they are all gone. It's a shame that one didn't get saved. Thanks for watching
What was that sound at the end? It wasn’t a 2 stroke road bike by any chance? Maybe a Suzuki RG 250? Those were the best days!
If you've got a quick enough eye you can catch it flying past.
@@trainspottingwithbarrie , darn too slow lol.
What happened to the original green train. From many years ago .must be about 80years ago. .
From what I can see they are all gone. It would have been nice to see one or two in preservation, but I might be wrong.
Hi John, the original green carriage set was replaced about 1949 with one of the new air conditioned Daylight Express sets that were introduced to several lines around that time. For some reason it was taken off the south coast line in 1957 and replaced with an old side corridor non air conditioned set for about 3 years. The Budd set arrived in February 1961, however in the few months leading up to then a 4 car 920 set was used.
The grey Ghost would ply that line right?
Hi Simon, you are correct. Late 80s. 4499 if I'm correct was painted up to match the tulloch cars. Thanks for commenting
@@trainspottingwithbarrie i thought it was 4479 which was in your video but i could be wrong about the number
How come they didnt use electrics to Wollongong?
Great question, someone may know better than me but I'm guessing something to do with it being a long running service (political) usually the reason isn't it.
@@trainspottingwithbarrie I presume that it would not have been not worth their while having having an electric loco laying idle while the diesel hauled the train to Bomaderry and back.
Good question. Wasn’t Wollongong a branch line also?
@@greghayes9118 Hi Greg, From central right through to Bomaderry it is the main south coast line. There are a number of branches off it to all the industrial areas around Port Kembla and to the coal loader and the wheat terminal. Further south there are two branch lines servicing blue metal qurries and there is also a line that goes up the from Unanderra to join up with the main southern line at Moss Vale.
At some point (maybe in the 80’s?) they did do that. Then later on, and still, it was change at Kiama once the electrification reached there.
always sit on the east side of the carriage.....ive done this trip and one time going past Bombo Beach two young girls flashed their boobs at the train😂😂😂❤❤
Damn, why wasn't I ever that lucky. I feel like I've missed out hahaha. Thanks for sharing
there were some youths on the other side immersed in their electronic devices, i was about say hey fellas look at this, but then decided ..nah stuff em 🤣🤣🤣
Haha expensive rolling stock carriages those budd railcars became! Gona have to convert some ho carriages to railcars to suit! Jm
Hi John, there used to be a HO powered "Bud" or equivalent out many years ago, Triang possibly. Not sure what's around today. Thanks for watching
In the budd car consist i remember seeing a double cab ended driving trailer (1st class??) With a smaller hood grill than tge motor cars, came with a small leyland diesel for buffet power. I'd try converting to these from ho carriages, im working on two s set driving trailers towed by 48 loco as did as woolongong local before electric traction was opened. Jm
Radio 2ST used to always report on its midday news that, "The Daylight Express was running 15 minutes late for its arrival in Bomaderry"! Why they never adgusted the timming to make that its normal schedule I don't know?
Hi Robert. I have a vague memory that it was renowned for that wasn't it? Makes sense, maybe they should have. Thanks for watching
@@trainspottingwithbarrie I remember on one occasion a traffic inspector was on board and observing how filthy it was on the outside, he arranged for as many station assistants as possible to be equipped with cleaning rags etc, then board the train as it worked its way down the coast so they could give it a clean while it was stationary at the Bomaderry station awaiting the departure time for the return journey.
Radio 2ST was based out of Nowra....maybe had "correspondants" in Highlands.