Sydney Trains: The Evolution of The Classic Fleet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2024
- Join us on a nostalgic journey through time as we explore Sydney's iconic train fleet, from the elegant Red Sets of the 1930s to the revolutionary Tangaras introduced in 1988. In this video, we delve into the history and evolution of these timeless trains, witnessing their transformation over decades of service.
Step aboard the Red Sets, a symbol of elegance and innovation in the 1930s. Discover their distinctive features and the impact they had on Sydney's transportation landscape.
Fast forward to the 1980s, where the K Sets revolutionized Sydney's rail network with their modern design and advanced technology.
Finally, we explore the futuristic Tangaras, introduced in 1988 to meet the city's growing demand for efficient transportation. Through side-by-side comparisons we witness how these trains have evolved over time while remaining integral to Sydney's transit system.
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Some good memories there Barrie, you didn't mention the poor old "S" sets, I remember in the Shirley era they painted some of the sets blue and white. I wonder if they managed so save a red rattler Parcel Van and preserve it in operating condition? Nice work...
Hi Dave. The S sets get their own vid coming soon. I remember those peeling blue and white beauties. Haha. 🤣
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On the subject of those Red Ratler Parce Vans l worked for a company that sent all its small roof Parts by Train from Sutherland, Sutherland had a small despatch Shed in the Railyards at the Loftus end.
It was a very quick reliable service, this was in the 1960's all stations at the time could handle parcels for despatch by Red Rattle converted carriages
Those little Brick sheds you see on many suburban Sydney stations were the Goods despatch Sheds and every Station Platform had a Metal Scale for determining your Parcel Weight
And Yes I remember those light Bue and White Carriages
@@graemekeeley4497 "Trackfast" had small sheds at most locations in the suburban network, also known as "Blue Spot Parcels" too I think.
Hi Barrie 👋 I am beginning to think that I should be heritage listed because I have wonderful memories of the Red Rattlers, and I have been around for the introduction of every set since the 1950's with the most memorable being the introduction of the double deck cars. 😂.
W3 has the original double deck cars in the set, and hopefully, we will see it operating soon in the heritage runs. Fantastic video, well done Barrie 👏 👍
Hi John. I'll be there with you soon enough, they will stick me in a dusty shed with my cracked windows and peeling paint until someone comes along and gives me a polish and sticks me back on track🤣. Thanks for making me laugh as always.
3:14 - Isn't that a C set, not a K set?
Hey OldAusieAds, you win the prize. It is Set K40 which is a Cset. After looking for footage from my archives for a k set, this was as close as I could get after an hour of looking at raw footage. Thanks for spotting it. 👍
Riding a red rattler isn't the same on welded rail. The rhythmic clacking every few seconds was hypnotic.
I agree totally, part of the charm.
When I first rocked up in Sydney in 1988 the K series are my abiding memory of seeing them along side as I crossed the bridge in the car. Your pic at 3:09 is very evocative - all that aluminium and alot more character than the Tangara IMHO
I agree completely, and at that time before the Tangaras the Ks were the lap of luxury with the aircon. Thanks for sharing
I really enjoyed seeing what Sydney’s past rail fleet was like back in the day. Fantastic video, Barrie.
Hi Class38s. Another vid coming soon with mainly retro footage. Thanks for watching
I got on a red rattler at Liverpool Station and sat in the front part. There was what I thought was a pool of milk on the floor. By the time the train got to Fairfield the milk had melted. It was ice from rain, the windows having been left open overnight.
What a great memory Mike. You would get something like that with today's trains. Thanks for sharing
I prefer tangaras when they are silver and black
Yeah I agree. They looked more futuristic somehow. Thanks for watching
Hi, i recall the red rattlers when i started high school 1970.
The most common was the single level, with the louver windows and the large black luggage racks above the window - doors were manual slide , often kept open especially in summer or peak hour. - I have witnessed probably 20-30 briefcases being lost from either being on the floor or passengers squashed in to the point of overhanging - 2 or 3 gentlemen were treated as the next station for sprained wrists
Double deckers came in later and i remember my first few rides in the silver double decker - thick vinyl seats that resembled tarps and every 2nd or 3rd seat was slashed and had the typical sew patch
I believe seat material would be a entire video of its own, plus many seats you cannot swing the backrest so you always face forward
I love this memory George, thanks for sharing. I never did see anything lost out of open doors myself, only rubbish and cigarette packets, so this is a great story. You are right about the seat material, it sure changed over the years to keep up with the vandals. Thanks for sharing.
I remember riding on the K sets and the tangara as a kid from Minto
Tangara from Minto, that would be a rare sight today. Thanks for sharing
@@trainspottingwithbarrie yeah? Mind you this was like 25 years ago
Great video Barrie and memories of the red rattlers. I wonder how long before the Tangarras are replaced, those top windows are hard to see out off.
Yeah good point. I wonder if they will change those out as part of the T set refurbishment. Thanks for commenting
Did I see some Tulloch trailers? I do vaguely remember single-deck red rattlers mixed with the double-decked Tulloch cars.
The Tangaras were revolutionary but sadly not perfect. The non-movable seats were not popular and the air-conditioning airflow on the upper decks a bit feral until they added some baffles. The drive technology was old, too. But they were still a huge upgrade, a very unique and nearly timeless design and Sydney was definitely better for them.
Hi Static san, yes you are correct, there were some tullochs in this video, there's a few in my coming Saturday visit too. You are right, the Tangara were rushed through production, but testament to the quality we can produce even under pressure. Thanks so much for watching.
There is something else odd about the Tangara sets, and that's the frequent loud banging between carriages that can be heard especially when running downhill.
When I was a kid waiting for the train and a red rattler rolled up, I was NOT happy 😆
Hi, what about now if one pulled up 😂 I was the same. Always wanted a Tangara now 35 years on I'm over it. Lol.
@@trainspottingwithbarrie I guess the fresh air from the open windows would be a novelty now haha. My dad actually worked for SRA back when the Tangara launched and I remember it was a huge deal!
Always a set for me
You've got to love the older sets hey. Thanks for watching
Brilliant video
Hi Mel, thanks a lot for watching
5:55 "Tangara" is an Aboriginal word meaning "election promise".
Hahaha good one 🤣
What station is that at 3:53. It looks like a nice station to trainspot
Hi UK player, that's Beverly Hills station, it's a good spot, a long straight stretch. Thanks for watching
Great video!!!
Hi GabToTheMax, thanks a lot, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
The First five "T" sets are getting close to 40 years old which is the normal life expectancy of rolling stock due to aging of wiring & electronic components parts availability. No mention of the original "S" sets, that were the original all double deck train for suburban use after the original test "S" set built by Tullochs that was referred to as "the flying nun set".
Hi AFS. The S sets will be getting a much more comprehensive video all of their own. Thanks for the extra information and watching.
Never should have broken with the DNA of the Bradfield stock from the 1920s and 1930s: lots of doors per car, single-deck, fast acceleration & cornering (for the time), comparatively easily coupled into shorter or longer sets. The double deckers for inner-urban areas were a big mistake, they might have made sense to the Blue Mountains or Wollongong but for the whole network. Same as they never should have stopped digging the rest of the tunnel South from Wynyard that fed trams across the Eastern lanes of the Harbour Bridge but was designed to double capacity through the city - they knew they needed this capacity long-term but the Government chose to scrap billions of dollars worth of infrastructure to subsidise private transport.
I agree completely. The system that Bradfields set down originally would have put us in a better place as far as public transport goes today. Thanks for watching.
@@trainspottingwithbarrie People attacked Sydney Metro incessantly in the first couple of years after its announcement, saying it was "breaking Bradfield's legacy" and all the rest. If people actually studied the philosophy of Bradfield and his team from 1913 to the mid-1930s, they would see Sydney Metro is actually in many respects a modern form of what Bradfield was actually suggesting: 30 trains per hour, single-deck with lots of doors, fast handling, through the middle suburbs and into separated tunnels up the spine of the City and back out again.
Don't get me wrong, there are legitimate things you can criticise Sydney Metro for, it is costing more than it should and has left stupid gaps which will persist as money gets tight like Schofields-Tallawong, Bankstown-Sefton (or Regents Park), Aerotropolis-Leppington and Westmead-Prairiewood should all have been done in their initial operational stages. But in essence they have got most of it right and will be a total game-changer for the city.
Well, even into the early 1970s some very late night Liverpool via Regent's Park services consisted of a two-car ALL WOODEN set, being a Bradfield with a wooden dummy driver trailer. Amazing that some wooden trailers lasted quite a while as they started to be withdrawn in earnest after seeing how they didn't cope well in the Sydenham accident of 1956. Their withdrawal caused some electric rolling stock shortages, resulting in services like Auburn to Blacktown and Granville to Fairfield peak period services given over to steam for a while.
A lot of condemned wooden trailers were stored at the sidings of the RAAF Regents Park facility before being taken to Clyde to be scrapped. I once saw a rake of seven of them come off that branch line behind a 50 Class.
I'd love to see an odometer on a red set by the end of service if they ever had one
Yeah, I wonder how many trips around the circumference of the earth they have done. Thanks for watching
What happened to the S sets?
Hey Nathan. I have so much old S set footage, they are getting their own video. Thanks for watching
the K-sets will be fully retired this year when the D-sets enter service, being replaced by H-sets
(i don't think any K-sets will be preserved)
and the Tangaras aren't set to be phased out until the 2030s
They'll be fully retired in 2026.
It will be a shame to see them go fully. I hope someone picks one up for preservation. Thanks for watching
but what about v sets ?
Hi. I focussed on the Sydney trains network for this video. The V sets will get their own video shortly.
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Hi TamasKiss. Thanks for watching 👍
@@trainspottingwithbarrie 😍🥰
Misguided passenger... 😂
IKR, hillarious haha!
Misguided all the way to the track when they fall out. 🤣
Definitely a part of the silver sets history whether you like it or not so I'm glad that it was included.