I cannot believe they've decided not to make sequels to this movie. This film set up so many interesting and unique concepts for the future. Seeing Darkseid on the big screen would've been an incredible experience without a doubt.
what we gonna lose is Deathstroke origin movie, batman vs Deathstroke, JL part 2 and 3, cyborg solo movie, green lantern corps movie and flashpoint movie
Death of Superman comic explained that he was never dead just totally drained of energy and went into a kind of sleep mode to recharge his cells with solar energy. I'm glad they used the black suit in this version, which was in keeping with the comic book...Fun Fact - The cop at the superman Memorial played Jimmy Olsen in the original Superman film.
My favorite scene is actually SEEING the omega beams fired from Darkseid's eyes and doing their signature fast zig zag to chase a moving target. And of course it wasn't in the theatrical cut.
Martian Manhunter is also a powerful telepath. He could've easily hidden his alien physiology from Superman in Man of Steel by planting false images in his mind of what he was looking at
In man of steel the general does not move away from the one way mirror when Superman approach’s it. All other soldiers moved back. That is when I knew he was Martian man hunter.
What clip are you talking about??? I just saw the the man of steel movie and was hoping Martian man hunter was in it. I knew he plays a general and it seemed fitting from his behavior in the one way glass scene.
What clip are you talking about??? I just saw the the man of steel movie and was hoping Martian man hunter was in it. I knew he plays a general and it seemed fitting from his behavior in the one way glass scene.
What clip are you talking about??? I just saw the the man of steel movie and was hoping Martian man hunter was in it. I knew he plays a general and it seemed fitting from his behavior in the one way glass scene.
28:06 That Deathstroke introduction gives me chills every time. The perfect set up for The Batffleck movie. So fuckin sad that WB won't let this universe come to fruition.
I think the fact that Flash went beyond the speed of light and reverses time is hands down one of the best things I've ever witnessed in cinema history I have never had so many goosebumps in such short period of time
I agree. The only thing that throws it off for me is Ezra Miller. I just don't like him as a human being and the sight of him disgusts me. If not for him I would say that's the coolest/most powerful scene in any super hero movie ever.
Seb, the black suit is a solar energy suit, it recharges him more with the power of the sun. It was in the comics like this. great reaction as always. Love this film.
@@nightwhelmed haven't seen the show and he looks good, but I prefer Joe Manganiello, dude is 6'4 just like Deathstroke in the comics while Eisa Morales is 5'10
@@MandatoryFruit James Gunn planning is for younger cast. lobo is not a main character so Jason Momoa can still be lobo. obviously superman, batman, wonder woman, flash, cyborg will be younger cast in mid 20's while martian manhunter might be mid 30's. that's why they announced 10 years plans and they also admit next JL from Gunn will using justice league unlimited as template.
The black suit is a suit that enhances Superman’s powers since the color black takes in more light than other colors. It also helps him to regain his strength since he died in BvS.
this is the VERY FIRST bat suit where the actor is able to turn his neck. the previous suits are all filled in the neck to give the batman a big beefy neck like the comics and since Keaton the big neck has always resulted in the actors being unable to move their neck or turn their head unless the cowl was divided in 2 pieces the neck and a helmet .
actually BvS suits can be turn neck. this JL suits is make by different company from BvS. BvS batman suits company left WB because WB didn't put credit with their name at the end of roll credit list. JL used different company
In the dark knight there’s a plot point early on where Bruce wanted more flexibility since the suit from batman begins was stiff. So they actually show how him and fox changed the design so he could turn his head.
by the way the black superman suit in the comics was his "sun absorption suit" after he came back to life, because the black absorbs the suns rays better and it had some extra regen tech in it in some comics
In Man of Steel during the interrogation scene the only person that didn’t step back was Général Swanwick this was hint that Zack Snyder was building the characters of the DCEUBfrom the beginning
Correct also Swanwick's mannerisms in Man of Steel and BvS was a hint alluding to something if one is really paying attention. Well now we know what that 'something' is.
4:27 Steppenwolf found the anti-life equation. Darkseid had originally found it on earth during that big battle with Zeus and the others but was not able to find it after having to retreat from being badly injured during the fight. The anti-life equation allows someone to control anyone against their will. Darkseid wanted it so he could control and rule the multiverse
Sad part is, they're not going to continue the Snyderverse, they fired Henry Cavill too. They were setting up a solo Batman movie with Deathstroke with that Prologue scene as well
I agree like 99%,. They are my favourite Superhero films of all time, but I struggle to call it a trilogy. That was a term WB used to try and make it clear that they weren't restoring the snyderverse. Tried to make us believe that the story was wrapped up. But this was never a trilogy. It was 3 movies sure, connected by the cast, the story and the director sure. But this was a different method of creating a shared universe one which I think DC could have done very well with. We don't need solo films/ origins stories for all the characters. We just need good films which link together and feel connected. The MCU works but also has several films which you could remove and it would make no difference to the overall story. What Snyder created was a world where it was all connected by a story, not the characters. And thats why a solo film, a versus film and a team up film work better as a trilogy than say the Thor films or the Iron Man films which are connected by a character but not a story. These films did what the whole MCU did but without the filler. With exception to suicide squad (though, not knowing what the ayer cut was like, maybe it did originally have some greater ties,) the films leading up to and including Justice League were all so perfectly entwined that you had to watch them all. Unlike the MCU which told you that you had to watch Black Panther to understand Infinity War or watch Captain Marvel to understand Endgame, but you really didn't.
@@michaeltunnicliffe4935 you talks too long, starting with man of steel ended with JL part 3. snyder did the way of LOTR doing trilogy but this time with 5 movies
@@michaeltunnicliffe4935 the DCEU rushed straight into Justice League to catch up to Marvel in terms of world building & you can't tell me otherwise. Giving us solo movies that flesh out the characters & make us care about them is a much better approach than having to jumble a ton of it into 1 movie that has to be 4 hours long just for the proper exposition of the characters to be included.
Snyder spilled the ending in an interview considering he'd never make any more DC movies. In a nutshell, the Riddler solves the anti life equation and gives it to Darkseid, who uses it to control Superman with it after Lois dies. The vision Bruce saw back in BvS was Barry going back in time to warn Bruce about Lois being the key, as she's the one person Superman could never bear losing. WW and Arthur are killed by Superman and the group in the epilogue is searching for a way to kill Superman after he destroys Gotham and other cities. Bruce fails to protect Lois after Superman asks him to and it's her charred body he's holding in the dream scene. Bruce ends up sacrificing himself to reset the timeline with Barry's help, and eventually they all return, save Bruce Wayne.
Thank you for the summary. It would be a great movie or movies but you know folks would just compare it to Endgame. My opinion, though… the old “my cake isn’t as good as that cake” argument. The res5 of us would just say, “Hey! TWO cakes!”
I’ve always been more of a Marvel fan but this and Shazam were excellent films. I especially loved Bruce’s dream, probably because of that improved Joker and because I don’t really have anything personally invested in the idea of any one DC story arc. I just want a good and engaging story and to see the characters being the characters. I also kinda dig seeing an actor get a second chance at a performance and knock it out of the park like Jared Leto did in that dream sequence.
is this the new screenplay he told us about because his old screenplay is different. I know his old screenplay which he told already scrapped because ZSJL ended differently from his original plan
Fun fact: the black suit was meant to signify he is the protector of krypton, while the blue signifies he’s the protector of earth. Edit: looks like I enraged all the nerds! My source is Zack Snyder and wether you believe me or not, I don’t really care!
Honestly yeah always have known way more about marvel cuz come on spidey my main hero but I’ve always loved the dc more theres always been a darker setting to everything that’s what made me pick up the comics
you need to tell them that darkseid real name is uxas, he got his name darkseid after he got omega realm (after he kill his own brother). yuga Khan is darkseid's father and he much more stronger than darkseid.
The visions Bruce had throughout the movies are the future that would have happened in the next film when Darkseid came to Earth and won and he's seeing the visions because Barry traveled back in time to show it to Bruce so that he would save Lois and because of that Superman wouldnt turn bad. Zack revealed his whole vision a few months back after he knew he wasnt gonna make more films. It's a real shame that they are not gonna make it into reality, after James Gunn was appointed everyone was excited up until the point he fired every actor.
Gunn only fired Henry from any future Superman roles, Gadot wasn't fired (according to Gunn himself,) Momoa is being (supposedly) recast as Lobo, Ben is set to direct some future film, Levi is back as Shazam and nothing has been said about replacing Ezra Miller yet. Ray Fisher was never brought back so couldn't be fired by Gunn.
I cannot remember where I saw it, but someone had the theory that Whedons version of JL led to the 'evil superman' timeline because Bruce took "Lois is the key" to mean "when you bring superman back from the dead"' and when it worked, he moved on. When the warning was actually referring to "we ended if Lois dies" In the Snyder Cut, its actually addressed with Bruce nor sure that's what the warning meant. So its something he continues to think about, eventually able to save the world. Basically: The Josstice League ends with the DCEU in flames and the Joker making 'we live in a society' quips
@@Falcun21 bro, I don't believe gal Gadot won't be recast. she's already 37 which is 3 years younger than Cavill. they can't use her for the next 10 years. (10 years on when the gunnverse started, not today) said what ever you wants, the earliest they can do gunnverse is releasing movie in 2024. which means gal already 39 years old so if she stays as Diana, she will be 49 years old when Gunnverse hit 10 years anniversary. lobo is not a main character so momoa is safe as lobo, for Ben Affleck, he no longer batman, even he direct DC movies it's won't be same level as he wearing batman suits. Levi is safe because he is under peter saffron. peter saffron is producer for all shazamverse and now he is also producer for the whole DC.
The actor that played the general in MOS snd ultimately Martian Manhunter (he didn’t know about the character twist) asked during the scene when Superman broke his cuffs, if he should stand his ground or step back? And Zach said yeah stand your ground or maybe step foward?
Truly a shame we'll never see ZS's vision. Even though he stated he had a way to wrap up his story with JL2+3 and utilize Flashpoint as a reboot, WB is hard rebooting everything. Never gonna understand why people get such a hate boner for ZS. He had a vision and not only was it compromised by the studio to play catch-up with Marvel, but he was able to make 3 solid movies that feel like their leading to something big after just 3 films. People can go on about needing separate hero films to build up to the team film, but DC ain't Marvel, and the different approach was refreshing. I really am happy ZS could at least redeem JL as his DC magnum opus. WB can reboot it, but they can't deny this film's existence or take it away anymore. ZS showed that the studio was wrong and sometimes, despite the market, trust in the creator/director if they have a plan...cause now, people are finally starting to appreciate ZS and his DC, but it's too late, and now, we've lost a great cast and vision for such great heroes.
This film gives a small glimpse at why Flash is my favorite superhero of all time. He's the best parts of all the best superheroes combined into one character (Or two, depending on whether it's Barry or Wally behind the mask), with a super unique twist on Superspeed that makes him EXTREMELY powerful. An unhinged Flash would be, and has been, outright unstoppable. I love that this movie displayed just how pivotal he is when the chips are down. There's no one more reliable for a clutch victory than a Flash letting loose.
Great reaction! It’s terrible we won’t ever see this continued. Hopefully down the line we get a crisis on infinite earths that includes this iteration of DC films
keep in mind, the Theatrical cut was not done by Zack Snyder, it was done by Joss Whedon (he directed the first Avengers movie) so its like a Marvel style version of this movie
ZSJL clears the first Avengers movie easily tbh, plus i will never forgive Joss Whedon for making people think le funny quip every 10 seconds= good dialogue, Snyders tone and perfect balance of grim dark and hope is just *chefs kiss*
Martian manhunter's shape-shifting is on a molecular level. Superman wouldn't be able to notice anything cuz there's nothing to notice. And even if it wasn't, Martians have psychic abilities. They can make you see whatever they want you to. They are OP as well. Their weakness however is fire and heat.
I so wish Snyderverse was continued, James Gun can reboot all he wants, Snyderverse is it's own thing, the way things are setup and unfolds is so interesting, Man of Steel by Zack Snyder was the first concept that actually made me interested in superman character, if Snyder was allowed to do the thing 100% the way he wanted from the start I think Marvel would have had a competition in a very different way, but WB wanted to clone Marvel and ruined it. ZSJL even with it's few shortcomings is one of the best superheroes movies made, it's a diamond and would be great to see it all.
The Snyderverse has SO much potential. Unfortunately DC killed it the first time by not allowing Zack's versions to be shown in theater (BvS and Justice League) and seemed to have killed it. Then, we got the change of guard and what seemed like we had hope to seeing the continuation, which would have been incredible. Unfortunately they put James Gunn and Peter Safran in charge, which could have been a great pairing for the DCU, but they killed it. So much for giving fans what they want and bringing DC to the forefront. SAD
12:40 flash holds up his had when he thinks superman is about to attack, this is not because the flash was scared of superman, he was getting ready to phase through time you can see the same hand gesture at 23:11. Darksied still has the scar on his shoulder from his first battle on earth @ 23:01 and 25:00 Plus in man of steel, when super man broke his hand cuffs and approached the glass, martain man hunter was the only person who did not flinch. I know the actual footage is not there, but when you go back and look at the scenes it's just incredible that these small details go unnoticed. Zack Snyder is a really underrated director.
Cyborg vision scene depicts Darkseid having taken the anti life equation kills Lois lane in the bat cave and brainwashes Superman to become his loyal acolyte.
Overall Zack Snyder's Justice League really shows what a product could look like if you let the creator create. While I do think this could've never released in theaters considering its 4 hours long, I think it was such a vast improvement of the original "josstice league". This is easily snyder's best work in my opinion and much of that has to do with his characters being properly fleshed out unlike his other films. I am still on the fence about that nightmare sequence at the end which was unnecessary and really bring the movie down in my opinion, and his portrayal of flash, superman, and batman, but iI understand the vision he was going for and some loved it and some didn't. I'm more in the middle. But this film just has such high highs compared to the rest. The level of improvement this film had from "josstice league" reminds me at the level of improvement THE Suicide Squad (2021) was over Suicide Squad (2016). In all, Zack Snyder's Justice League will go down as something historic. I can only count on one hand the amount of times something like this came to fruition by the demand of passionate fans. Some a little too passionate but im forever happy for Zack. He was treated terribly by the studio and finally got to bring his vision to life, its far from my favorite movie of course but in the same way we finally got a good suicide squad movie in THE Suicide Squad (2021), this IS THE DEFINITIVE JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE.
I quite agree what you just said. man of steel has pacing problem, BvS is not for everyone and this movie actually managed to do what watchmen did, a better superhero movie.
I think the nightmare sequence was really just supposed to be like a teaser or post credits scene but since Snyder knew they weren't letting him continue he just added it to the film. Also, Gunn's SS is awful. No clue how you enjoyed that. SS should be more than a bunch of dick and fart jokes. If that's the future of the DCU then no thanks. Sick of every studio thinking the only way to make a comic book film is by cramming in as many stupid jokes as possible.
@@justinbaileyASU I know it was a tease to what zacks future vision was but it’s part of the film and doesn’t come after the credits therefore it still hinders the movie for me
@Keizi Cinema I mean you can still make a two parter theatrical release from this, release the 4 hour cut on Blu ray and maybe on other video formats. Boom. Profit
loads of people hate on BoP but honestly it’s just a fun film! it doesn’t take itself too seriously and we ALL need to witness Ewan McGregor as Black Mask/Roman Sionis!!!
It’s both a Harley movie and a Birds of Prey movie. It mostly focuses on Harley, but it also introduces and shows the creation of the BOP so the title kind of works
@@boboboy8189 The movie was called Birds of Prey: And The Fantabulous Emancipation Of One Harley Quinn originally, and later changed to Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey. They never tried to hide that Harley was a prominent character, but discarding the BoP part would also be misleading because the movie isn't just about Harley as a character and heavily features some of the Birds of Prey.
It all started when : 1. WB cut the 30 minutes of BVS in 2016 2. The BvS were not reaching the gross targets 3. WB started to make decision to change DC more "Marvelish" 4. ZS quit from JL due to his kid suicidal. 5. Wheddon stepped in and finishing the JL for the theatrical cut. 6. JL theatrical cut were a big flop in 2017. 7. More DC contents become trash after the JL (except for WW and Aquaman) From all the premises I told above, if we had ZSJL in 2017, we could've had : 1. Green Lantern Corps 2. Cyborg solo movies 3. The Batman, played and directed by Ben Affleck with Deathstroke as a villain 4. Shazam (that fit the apocalyptic theme) 5. Justice League 2 6. Justice League 3 (probably Final Crisis) 7. The Flashpoint 8. Man of Steel sequel (Man of Tomorrow) 9. Wonder Woman 2 And by the possible movies that mentioned, we could probably have 1. New Gods spin off 2. Gotham Sirens series 3. Superman Shazam vs Black Adam 4. Supergirl movie 5. Batgirl movie 6. Probably JSA series and more Snyderverse isn't just 10 years set up plan for DCEU. It's 20 years plan! Instead of listening the fans, WB started to gamble on another table. That's why I don't move and keep spamming #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I completely agree with everything you said but I remeber back in 2017 Zach released his movies and JL2 would’ve came out in 2019 and JL3/Flash would’ve came out in 2023. It would’ve been a 10 year universe for DC
Since it's Christmas and you wanted more Darkseid, I need you to know this fun fact : Santa Claus is an actual character in DC, and every year he goes to Apokolips (Darkseid's planet) and he fights his way through his army and defenses to personally give Darkseid his coal. Every. Single. Year.
Yeah. I really enjoyed that little story. Even funnier when Darkseid has a gradual breakdown the closer Santa comes to giving him coal. I like to think he attacks Earth so much because Santa comes from it.
It is very sad to see how excited and enjoyed the movie knowing that WB did everything possible to bury it (not to mention the mistreatment and disrespect towards the actors and the director) and today they decided not to follow this story.
Marvel made Thor Love and Thunder CGI with millions of Dollars and the best Designers Zack Snyder finished the Justice League for HBO Max as a passion project using an iPad
The end is alternative future, which shows Darkseid comes to Earth and killing almost every single superhero and conqueres Earth. Then the remain alive superhero are teaming up with the remain villains to fight Darkseid. That's why we see Deathstroke and Joker with the Justice League. Also in this future Bruce refuses to take a bullet to save Lois and she dies. The bones Superman holds are Lois. Then Superman turns evil and kinda goes to Darkseid side. That's why they showed The Flash saying to Bruce: Lois is the key. Because she needs to be saved, so Superman doesn't turn evil and he helps Justice League vs Darkseid. And in a different alternate future, Bruce dies, taking the shot who is supposted to hit Lois, and that's how they defeat Darkseid.
Just a little info on Martian Manhunter. Even if Superman used his x-ray vision on Martian Manhunter, when he was in his General disguise, he would only see human internal organs and bone and blood, because when a Martian changes shape, it's all the way down to the DNA of the shape that they take. At least that's how it was explained on Young Justice when Ms. Martian changed her blood to save Beast Boy, she took a sample of his blood and then altered her physiology to match his blood type.
Zack Synder is unmatched when it comes to action and visuals. In the interrogation scene on Mos Clark does know, watch again. Darkseids Lazer eyes is called an omega beam, it's like a homing missile.
I love the Synderverse. This is superheroes for adults. It's a bloody shame that Warner Bros and DC have not stayed with this concept. I like James Gunn but I'm nervous for what changes are coming in the DCU. The Zack Snyder version will be what I now judge all superhero movies by.
Superheroes werent made for adults only. Zack's films may be a visual feast and dark but thats the extent of them for the most part. His films are far from what the gold standard of a comic book film should be like lmao. Edgar wright, Matthew Vaughn, The Russo Brothers, and James Gunn are all directors that have accurately adapted source material while pleasing the majority of audiences.
@@Keizi right and just because it’s dark doesn’t mean it’s for adults in fact I think the target demographic for these would be angsty 12-16 year old boys whereas marvel movies and movies like Shazam and Wonder Woman were made with everyone in mind
@@Keizi I enjoyed and still enjoy the Marvel universe but DC comics were my number one pick and I stated that I like James Gunn. But I also enjoyed the darker Synder universe as sometimes superhero movies can feel more aimed to the teenage crowd. His Watchmen was great and more adult themed.
If you have seen SS and Peacemaker, GOTG, that is pretty much James Gunn. ...so we will see these throughout his DC universe. Aquaman, Flash movie and Shazam will be the last of what remained of ZS DC universe I feel..sad. ..I am ready to move on, even Marvel is starting to fizzle out
“Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive.” Superman is absolutely that fast, my dude. Always was as far as I know. They made that scene for a reason. The guy is insanely OP.
because wb became wimps at the smallest backlash to bvs then had no idea what to do versus marvel not listening at all to backlash and making a mess of things. Marvel isnt reacting enough and DC overreacted too soon. both are failing.
I saw a cool theory that Bruce thinking that Flash's "Lois is the key" message meant "go get her when you bring Superman back" in Whedons version is what led to the "evil superman" timeline. Because it actually meant that losing Lois is what breaks Superman, but Bruce's let it go by then, he thinks he knows what it meant and its over. In Snyder's, Bruce thinks it means something more and keeps it in mind, eventually figuring out that losing Lois is what breaks Superman, averting that disaster
@@caliginousmoira8565The Joss Whedon version of JL had Batman initially think that the warning about Lois applied to when they brought Superman back. He clearly believed that in this version of the story. The vision of him talking to Joker shows more, and he is clearly worried about it. The main thing, is that all Batman has to do is talk to the rest of JL about that concern, and Cyborg will report what he saw when he was in contact with the Motherbox in the Kryptonian ship. His report will be crucial, because he saw clearly what happened when Superman, Darkseid and Lois were in a location to together and what played out.
@@shauntempley9757 i always took it as lois dying is the reason he snapped. for me, everything was given in the movie(extended cut) also, thank you for answering
@@caliginousmoira8565 She did not just die. Darkseid killed her. It is why Clark is in the montage when Darkseid puts his hand on Clark's shoulder. Flash's warning in BvS is about that moment. That Darkseid will kill Lois to turn Clark to his control, when for plenty of time, he thought it was about when Clark is resurrected. Basically, Darkseid saw what Joker did with Robin in getting to Batman and upped the anti.
Game Theory made a theory on this movie saying that the first version of the film is the timeline that ends badly. It has been a while since I watched it but I remember it making sense. Also if you are looking for a new series to watch I recommend Endeavor (British crime drama) and 1899 (mystery drama).
The SnyderCut needing to be 4 hours long just so they could half-tell some backstory on these characters is very telling that they rushed into it & should've built these characters up in other films first to avoid that issue.
I feel I can speak for us all, do not bother with the theatrical cut. Also Darkseid is voiced by Ray Porter, the GOAT of voice acting and narration. I was so pumped he got that role.
31:00 check that scene in man of steel again. When superman stands up and breaks the handcuff everybody in the other room moves back except martian manhunter. And at the end of the movie(mos), superman says to martian manhunter that he trusts him.
MoS, BVS Ult edit, and ZSJL are masterpieces. If WB had the balls and didn't cave in to minority complaining about solid movies and dark stories, we would be in a completely different DC world right now!
the next films arent directed by Zack Snyder or part of the Snyderverse. Warner Bros fired Zack Snyder in the middle of production for Justice League so he couldnt even release it in 2015-2016, we had to wait and wait until 2021 for the movie to come out on home streaming. so the Snyderverse HAS BEEN OVER and this is sadly the last crumb we have of it.
Tell me you dont know anything about DC without telling me Him : "Superman is as fast as The Flash". "The Flash is useless". "Batman is useless". "Did Superman just make a black outfit?". LoL
I don’t know if Zack Synder really planned for the general to be Martian Manhunter from the beginning, but if you watch the final scene between him and Supes in Man of Steel, I swear there is something coy about the way Cavil looks at him, especially on the line about having to trust each other. It’s just enough to make it work for me.
28:00 Part of the Snyderverse would also been a Deathstroke movie by the guy that did THE RAID MOVIES, imagine how crazy it would have beem. Look it up trust me.
Superman knew who he was in Man of Steel, in the scene when the arrested him, when he x-rayed through the wall and Gen. Swanwick knew who Superman was because Martian Manhunter read his mind. So they knew who each other was.
I knew it was over for most of them the moment they pulled the plug on the Snyderverse. His appearance in Black Adam was just the Rock flexing his influence to stroke his own ego. Felt like the last flicker of a candle's flame before it dies out.
I loved this movie so much. I prefer dc as a universe and I like there hero’s but I always thought marvel had better movies but this, man of steel, and wonder woman are actually amazing
Oh and a few weeks ago, Henry was back as Superman for Man of Steel 2, to fight Braniac..... then James Gunn sacked everyone to make sure it could never happen
13:17 Wonder Woman was holding back through this entire fight that’s why she didn’t stand as much of a chance and wasn’t able to hold her own as well as she would’ve
Zack Snyder was planned to direct Justice League 2, Justice League 3, and possible Dark Knight Returns and Man of Steel 2. But we never get that now...
Yes the martian is Martian Manhunter. I don't know about comics and stuff bc I don't read them but I still have plenty of DC knowledge through the Injustice games, and the DC TV shows. But yes J'onn (is his name) is the military guy.
I don’t know the full back story. Apparently the suicide squad that was released was quite the watered down version from what it was written for. From what I read over the years there was like this movie, a whole other movie inside the movie that had something like 80 additional minutes of screen time with the joker. The studio cut most of it, and released the movie suicide squad. Hence the reason, release the Ayer’s cut gets mentioned along with release the snyderverse, release the Batflick film,
I'm sad Henry is no longer Superman. He was so happy to be back as The Man of Steel .
Actually he is back for Man of Steel 2
@@furybp9906Lmao you must have missed the news. James Gunn fired him.
@@jackmarshall3255 I know !! He left The Witcher to be Clark Kent again and now he won't be either ☹.
I dont why, but i read the first sentence as "I'm so happy Henry is no longer Superman."
@@ChadBenjamin Woow, yeah.. I was wrong. I just read that on Henry's instagram.. So sad
I cannot believe they've decided not to make sequels to this movie. This film set up so many interesting and unique concepts for the future. Seeing Darkseid on the big screen would've been an incredible experience without a doubt.
...but everyone wants Superman to have his underpants on and rescue cats from trees, apparently.
@@papalaz4444244 Unbelievable uh!
I would have loved to see a Batman vs deathstroke movie 😢😢😢
@@TayeeReacts
Same. 😕
what we gonna lose is Deathstroke origin movie, batman vs Deathstroke, JL part 2 and 3, cyborg solo movie, green lantern corps movie and flashpoint movie
Death of Superman comic explained that he was never dead just totally drained of energy and went into a kind of sleep mode to recharge his cells with solar energy. I'm glad they used the black suit in this version, which was in keeping with the comic book...Fun Fact - The cop at the superman Memorial played Jimmy Olsen in the original Superman film.
My favorite scene is actually SEEING the omega beams fired from Darkseid's eyes and doing their signature fast zig zag to chase a moving target. And of course it wasn't in the theatrical cut.
And it read END!!
Gotta appreciate that it spelled END too. Darkseid just had to flex on that random Atlantian.
I never even knew that! That's cool.
@Mandatory Fruit that was Vulko. Not a random atlantean. And the atlantean he killed with the trident is aquaman
@@diegoclark7697 I knew Arthur was the one he stabbed, didn't realize he was using his Omega Beams on Vulko though. Not sure how I missed that.
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"Maybe it'll be in a movie down the line."
The feels.
Martian Manhunter is also a powerful telepath. He could've easily hidden his alien physiology from Superman in Man of Steel by planting false images in his mind of what he was looking at
MM strength is same as superman but superman got his power up when he revived
In man of steel the general does not move away from the one way mirror when Superman approach’s it. All other soldiers moved back. That is when I knew he was Martian man hunter.
What clip are you talking about??? I just saw the the man of steel movie and was hoping Martian man hunter was in it. I knew he plays a general and it seemed fitting from his behavior in the one way glass scene.
What clip are you talking about??? I just saw the the man of steel movie and was hoping Martian man hunter was in it. I knew he plays a general and it seemed fitting from his behavior in the one way glass scene.
What clip are you talking about??? I just saw the the man of steel movie and was hoping Martian man hunter was in it. I knew he plays a general and it seemed fitting from his behavior in the one way glass scene.
22:05 Just realised the way Superman entered into the shot and defended Cyborg was the same way Wonder Woman came in and defended Batman in BvS😭🔥
28:06 That Deathstroke introduction gives me chills every time. The perfect set up for The Batffleck movie. So fuckin sad that WB won't let this universe come to fruition.
I think the fact that Flash went beyond the speed of light and reverses time is hands down one of the best things I've ever witnessed in cinema history I have never had so many goosebumps in such short period of time
I agree. The only thing that throws it off for me is Ezra Miller. I just don't like him as a human being and the sight of him disgusts me. If not for him I would say that's the coolest/most powerful scene in any super hero movie ever.
That's why it won an oscar
@@r3fIect It did? I didnt know that. Totally deserved tho
@@NewYorkFloridaMan Yeah I can see that I also dont really like him as a human but I gotta give it to him I really enjoyed him as Flash
@@akaBrandy Zack Snyder got 2 oscars for this year
Seb, the black suit is a solar energy suit, it recharges him more with the power of the sun. It was in the comics like this. great reaction as always. Love this film.
deathstroke was the perfect PERFECT cast... i was so hyped to see joe..
I actually thought that the casting from Titans was better. Esai Morales was fantastic as Slade.
@@nightwhelmed haven't seen the show and he looks good, but I prefer Joe Manganiello, dude is 6'4 just like Deathstroke in the comics while Eisa Morales is 5'10
Hopefully James Gunn decides to stick with him as Deathstroke.
@@MandatoryFruit Doubt
@@MandatoryFruit James Gunn planning is for younger cast. lobo is not a main character so Jason Momoa can still be lobo. obviously superman, batman, wonder woman, flash, cyborg will be younger cast in mid 20's while martian manhunter might be mid 30's. that's why they announced 10 years plans and they also admit next JL from Gunn will using justice league unlimited as template.
This movie is a gift for humanity.
The black suit is a suit that enhances Superman’s powers since the color black takes in more light than other colors. It also helps him to regain his strength since he died in BvS.
"We will use the old ways" is a much better version of "Fine. I'll do it myself."
this is the VERY FIRST bat suit where the actor is able to turn his neck.
the previous suits are all filled in the neck to give the batman a big beefy neck like the comics and since Keaton the big neck has always resulted in the actors being unable to move their neck or turn their head unless the cowl was divided in 2 pieces the neck and a helmet .
actually BvS suits can be turn neck. this JL suits is make by different company from BvS. BvS batman suits company left WB because WB didn't put credit with their name at the end of roll credit list. JL used different company
In the dark knight there’s a plot point early on where Bruce wanted more flexibility since the suit from batman begins was stiff. So they actually show how him and fox changed the design so he could turn his head.
by the way the black superman suit in the comics was his "sun absorption suit" after he came back to life, because the black absorbs the suns rays better and it had some extra regen tech in it in some comics
In Man of Steel during the interrogation scene the only person that didn’t step back was Général Swanwick this was hint that Zack Snyder was building the characters of the DCEUBfrom the beginning
Correct also Swanwick's mannerisms in Man of Steel and BvS was a hint alluding to something if one is really paying attention. Well now we know what that 'something' is.
4:27 Steppenwolf found the anti-life equation. Darkseid had originally found it on earth during that big battle with Zeus and the others but was not able to find it after having to retreat from being badly injured during the fight. The anti-life equation allows someone to control anyone against their will. Darkseid wanted it so he could control and rule the multiverse
Sad part is, they're not going to continue the Snyderverse, they fired Henry Cavill too. They were setting up a solo Batman movie with Deathstroke with that Prologue scene as well
Thank you Zack Snyder. Your trilogy will always be my favorite. No matter what others say.
I agree like 99%,. They are my favourite Superhero films of all time, but I struggle to call it a trilogy. That was a term WB used to try and make it clear that they weren't restoring the snyderverse. Tried to make us believe that the story was wrapped up. But this was never a trilogy. It was 3 movies sure, connected by the cast, the story and the director sure. But this was a different method of creating a shared universe one which I think DC could have done very well with. We don't need solo films/ origins stories for all the characters. We just need good films which link together and feel connected. The MCU works but also has several films which you could remove and it would make no difference to the overall story. What Snyder created was a world where it was all connected by a story, not the characters. And thats why a solo film, a versus film and a team up film work better as a trilogy than say the Thor films or the Iron Man films which are connected by a character but not a story. These films did what the whole MCU did but without the filler. With exception to suicide squad (though, not knowing what the ayer cut was like, maybe it did originally have some greater ties,) the films leading up to and including Justice League were all so perfectly entwined that you had to watch them all. Unlike the MCU which told you that you had to watch Black Panther to understand Infinity War or watch Captain Marvel to understand Endgame, but you really didn't.
@@michaeltunnicliffe4935 you talks too long, starting with man of steel ended with JL part 3. snyder did the way of LOTR doing trilogy but this time with 5 movies
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@@michaeltunnicliffe4935 I agree, you explained very well.
@@michaeltunnicliffe4935 the DCEU rushed straight into Justice League to catch up to Marvel in terms of world building & you can't tell me otherwise. Giving us solo movies that flesh out the characters & make us care about them is a much better approach than having to jumble a ton of it into 1 movie that has to be 4 hours long just for the proper exposition of the characters to be included.
The moment where Bruce says congratulations to Clark at the farm he was referring on Lois being pregnant.
This version was leagues ahead of any DC movie made and now it’s time to start the whole universe over
I love how they made Superman op, instead of “a difficult fianl battle” cliche. But instead they had Supes be BADASS!
Snyder spilled the ending in an interview considering he'd never make any more DC movies. In a nutshell, the Riddler solves the anti life equation and gives it to Darkseid, who uses it to control Superman with it after Lois dies. The vision Bruce saw back in BvS was Barry going back in time to warn Bruce about Lois being the key, as she's the one person Superman could never bear losing. WW and Arthur are killed by Superman and the group in the epilogue is searching for a way to kill Superman after he destroys Gotham and other cities. Bruce fails to protect Lois after Superman asks him to and it's her charred body he's holding in the dream scene. Bruce ends up sacrificing himself to reset the timeline with Barry's help, and eventually they all return, save Bruce Wayne.
Thank you for the summary. It would be a great movie or movies but you know folks would just compare it to Endgame. My opinion, though… the old “my cake isn’t as good as that cake” argument. The res5 of us would just say, “Hey! TWO cakes!”
I’ve always been more of a Marvel fan but this and Shazam were excellent films. I especially loved Bruce’s dream, probably because of that improved Joker and because I don’t really have anything personally invested in the idea of any one DC story arc. I just want a good and engaging story and to see the characters being the characters. I also kinda dig seeing an actor get a second chance at a performance and knock it out of the park like Jared Leto did in that dream sequence.
is this the new screenplay he told us about because his old screenplay is different. I know his old screenplay which he told already scrapped because ZSJL ended differently from his original plan
Fun fact: the black suit was meant to signify he is the protector of krypton, while the blue signifies he’s the protector of earth.
Edit: looks like I enraged all the nerds! My source is Zack Snyder and wether you believe me or not, I don’t really care!
According to what? I always thought the black suit was for healing times as it absorbs more sunlight.
@@plumbussmith according to the fact that kryptonians usually have black suits
@@plumbussmith There is no truth to what he said just like 90% of the other posts. The black suit absorbs more sunlight, as you said.
Thanks for the fun fact man
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Y'all can say what you will, but the fact that WW headbutted Superman back was crazy!
Fun fact: Steppenwolf is Darkseid's uncle.
Whoa
think we all know this by now
@@naeemislam1105i didn’t.
Honestly yeah always have known way more about marvel cuz come on spidey my main hero but I’ve always loved the dc more theres always been a darker setting to everything that’s what made me pick up the comics
you need to tell them that darkseid real name is uxas, he got his name darkseid after he got omega realm (after he kill his own brother). yuga Khan is darkseid's father and he much more stronger than darkseid.
The visions Bruce had throughout the movies are the future that would have happened in the next film when Darkseid came to Earth and won and he's seeing the visions because Barry traveled back in time to show it to Bruce so that he would save Lois and because of that Superman wouldnt turn bad. Zack revealed his whole vision a few months back after he knew he wasnt gonna make more films. It's a real shame that they are not gonna make it into reality, after James Gunn was appointed everyone was excited up until the point he fired every actor.
Gunn only fired Henry from any future Superman roles, Gadot wasn't fired (according to Gunn himself,) Momoa is being (supposedly) recast as Lobo, Ben is set to direct some future film, Levi is back as Shazam and nothing has been said about replacing Ezra Miller yet. Ray Fisher was never brought back so couldn't be fired by Gunn.
@@Falcun21 Ok James sure...
I cannot remember where I saw it, but someone had the theory that Whedons version of JL led to the 'evil superman' timeline because Bruce took "Lois is the key" to mean "when you bring superman back from the dead"' and when it worked, he moved on. When the warning was actually referring to "we ended if Lois dies"
In the Snyder Cut, its actually addressed with Bruce nor sure that's what the warning meant. So its something he continues to think about, eventually able to save the world.
Basically: The Josstice League ends with the DCEU in flames and the Joker making 'we live in a society' quips
@@Falcun21 bro, I don't believe gal Gadot won't be recast. she's already 37 which is 3 years younger than Cavill. they can't use her for the next 10 years. (10 years on when the gunnverse started, not today) said what ever you wants, the earliest they can do gunnverse is releasing movie in 2024. which means gal already 39 years old so if she stays as Diana, she will be 49 years old when Gunnverse hit 10 years anniversary.
lobo is not a main character so momoa is safe as lobo, for Ben Affleck, he no longer batman, even he direct DC movies it's won't be same level as he wearing batman suits. Levi is safe because he is under peter saffron. peter saffron is producer for all shazamverse and now he is also producer for the whole DC.
The actor that played the general in MOS snd ultimately Martian Manhunter (he didn’t know about the character twist) asked during the scene when Superman broke his cuffs, if he should stand his ground or step back? And Zach said yeah stand your ground or maybe step foward?
Truly a shame we'll never see ZS's vision. Even though he stated he had a way to wrap up his story with JL2+3 and utilize Flashpoint as a reboot, WB is hard rebooting everything. Never gonna understand why people get such a hate boner for ZS. He had a vision and not only was it compromised by the studio to play catch-up with Marvel, but he was able to make 3 solid movies that feel like their leading to something big after just 3 films. People can go on about needing separate hero films to build up to the team film, but DC ain't Marvel, and the different approach was refreshing. I really am happy ZS could at least redeem JL as his DC magnum opus. WB can reboot it, but they can't deny this film's existence or take it away anymore. ZS showed that the studio was wrong and sometimes, despite the market, trust in the creator/director if they have a plan...cause now, people are finally starting to appreciate ZS and his DC, but it's too late, and now, we've lost a great cast and vision for such great heroes.
This film gives a small glimpse at why Flash is my favorite superhero of all time. He's the best parts of all the best superheroes combined into one character (Or two, depending on whether it's Barry or Wally behind the mask), with a super unique twist on Superspeed that makes him EXTREMELY powerful. An unhinged Flash would be, and has been, outright unstoppable. I love that this movie displayed just how pivotal he is when the chips are down. There's no one more reliable for a clutch victory than a Flash letting loose.
I think Snyder use Wally west character with Barry Allen story
Great reaction! It’s terrible we won’t ever see this continued. Hopefully down the line we get a crisis on infinite earths that includes this iteration of DC films
keep in mind, the Theatrical cut was not done by Zack Snyder, it was done by Joss Whedon (he directed the first Avengers movie) so its like a Marvel style version of this movie
Please don't put it into words. I don't like being reminded of that steaming pile of utterly derivative cow dung.
dont disrespect the mcu like that
@@Keizi actually josstice league rehash same scene as age of Ultron and we all know age of Ultron is marvel movie
ZSJL clears the first Avengers movie easily tbh, plus i will never forgive Joss Whedon for making people think le funny quip every 10 seconds= good dialogue, Snyders tone and perfect balance of grim dark and hope is just *chefs kiss*
All I can say that the whole built up is so worth it at the end.
If you want to see Superman vs Darkseid, you gotta check out DC's animated properties.
Martian manhunter's shape-shifting is on a molecular level. Superman wouldn't be able to notice anything cuz there's nothing to notice. And even if it wasn't, Martians have psychic abilities. They can make you see whatever they want you to. They are OP as well. Their weakness however is fire and heat.
I so wish Snyderverse was continued, James Gun can reboot all he wants, Snyderverse is it's own thing, the way things are setup and unfolds is so interesting, Man of Steel by Zack Snyder was the first concept that actually made me interested in superman character, if Snyder was allowed to do the thing 100% the way he wanted from the start I think Marvel would have had a competition in a very different way, but WB wanted to clone Marvel and ruined it. ZSJL even with it's few shortcomings is one of the best superheroes movies made, it's a diamond and would be great to see it all.
The Snyderverse has SO much potential.
Unfortunately DC killed it the first time by not allowing Zack's versions to be shown in theater (BvS and Justice League) and seemed to have killed it.
Then, we got the change of guard and what seemed like we had hope to seeing the continuation, which would have been incredible. Unfortunately they put James Gunn and Peter Safran in charge, which could have been a great pairing for the DCU, but they killed it. So much for giving fans what they want and bringing DC to the forefront. SAD
I want Paul dini and Bruce Timm to be producer for DC movies. I don't trust James Gunn and Peter saffron because they gonna make DC to be Shazam movie
12:40 flash holds up his had when he thinks superman is about to attack, this is not because the flash was scared of superman, he was getting ready to phase through time you can see the same hand gesture at 23:11.
Darksied still has the scar on his shoulder from his first battle on earth @ 23:01 and 25:00
Plus in man of steel, when super man broke his hand cuffs and approached the glass, martain man hunter was the only person who did not flinch.
I know the actual footage is not there, but when you go back and look at the scenes it's just incredible that these small details go unnoticed. Zack Snyder is a really underrated director.
18:15 is one of my fav pictures in any movie ever, looks like an actual god embrassing the sun and the whole earth or somth
The voice of Darkseid is more terrifying than 2 movies of Thanos
Cyborg vision scene depicts Darkseid having taken the anti life equation kills Lois lane in the bat cave and brainwashes Superman to become his loyal acolyte.
Overall Zack Snyder's Justice League really shows what a product could look like if you let the creator create. While I do think this could've never released in theaters considering its 4 hours long, I think it was such a vast improvement of the original "josstice league". This is easily snyder's best work in my opinion and much of that has to do with his characters being properly fleshed out unlike his other films. I am still on the fence about that nightmare sequence at the end which was unnecessary and really bring the movie down in my opinion, and his portrayal of flash, superman, and batman, but iI understand the vision he was going for and some loved it and some didn't. I'm more in the middle. But this film just has such high highs compared to the rest. The level of improvement this film had from "josstice league" reminds me at the level of improvement THE Suicide Squad (2021) was over Suicide Squad (2016). In all, Zack Snyder's Justice League will go down as something historic. I can only count on one hand the amount of times something like this came to fruition by the demand of passionate fans. Some a little too passionate but im forever happy for Zack. He was treated terribly by the studio and finally got to bring his vision to life, its far from my favorite movie of course but in the same way we finally got a good suicide squad movie in THE Suicide Squad (2021), this IS THE DEFINITIVE JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE.
I quite agree what you just said. man of steel has pacing problem, BvS is not for everyone and this movie actually managed to do what watchmen did, a better superhero movie.
I think the nightmare sequence was really just supposed to be like a teaser or post credits scene but since Snyder knew they weren't letting him continue he just added it to the film.
Also, Gunn's SS is awful. No clue how you enjoyed that. SS should be more than a bunch of dick and fart jokes. If that's the future of the DCU then no thanks. Sick of every studio thinking the only way to make a comic book film is by cramming in as many stupid jokes as possible.
@@justinbaileyASU I know it was a tease to what zacks future vision was but it’s part of the film and doesn’t come after the credits therefore it still hinders the movie for me
@Keizi Cinema I mean you can still make a two parter theatrical release from this, release the 4 hour cut on Blu ray and maybe on other video formats. Boom. Profit
@@memecliparchives2254 this movie is not meant for that kind of format. Where could u possibly cut this movie into 2 parts 😂
If Seb doesn't watch Birds of Prey Im gonna cry, the same dude that did the fight choreography for the John Wick films worked on it ❤
loads of people hate on BoP but honestly it’s just a fun film! it doesn’t take itself too seriously and we ALL need to witness Ewan McGregor as Black Mask/Roman Sionis!!!
@@sophieeiguess210 I didn't hate it but calling that movie as BoP is misleading marketing. should called it Harley Quinn movie
It’s both a Harley movie and a Birds of Prey movie. It mostly focuses on Harley, but it also introduces and shows the creation of the BOP so the title kind of works
@@boboboy8189 The movie was called Birds of Prey: And The Fantabulous Emancipation Of One Harley Quinn originally, and later changed to Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey. They never tried to hide that Harley was a prominent character, but discarding the BoP part would also be misleading because the movie isn't just about Harley as a character and heavily features some of the Birds of Prey.
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It all started when :
1. WB cut the 30 minutes of BVS in 2016
2. The BvS were not reaching the gross targets
3. WB started to make decision to change DC more "Marvelish"
4. ZS quit from JL due to his kid suicidal.
5. Wheddon stepped in and finishing the JL for the theatrical cut.
6. JL theatrical cut were a big flop in 2017.
7. More DC contents become trash after the JL (except for WW and Aquaman)
From all the premises I told above, if we had ZSJL in 2017, we could've had :
1. Green Lantern Corps
2. Cyborg solo movies
3. The Batman, played and directed by Ben Affleck with Deathstroke as a villain
4. Shazam (that fit the apocalyptic theme)
5. Justice League 2
6. Justice League 3 (probably Final Crisis)
7. The Flashpoint
8. Man of Steel sequel (Man of Tomorrow)
9. Wonder Woman 2
And by the possible movies that mentioned, we could probably have
1. New Gods spin off
2. Gotham Sirens series
3. Superman Shazam vs Black Adam
4. Supergirl movie
5. Batgirl movie
6. Probably JSA series and more
Snyderverse isn't just 10 years set up plan for DCEU. It's 20 years plan! Instead of listening the fans, WB started to gamble on another table. That's why I don't move and keep spamming #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I completely agree with everything you said but I remeber back in 2017 Zach released his movies and JL2 would’ve came out in 2019 and JL3/Flash would’ve came out in 2023. It would’ve been a 10 year universe for DC
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Since it's Christmas and you wanted more Darkseid, I need you to know this fun fact : Santa Claus is an actual character in DC, and every year he goes to Apokolips (Darkseid's planet) and he fights his way through his army and defenses to personally give Darkseid his coal. Every. Single. Year.
Yeah. I really enjoyed that little story. Even funnier when Darkseid has a gradual breakdown the closer Santa comes to giving him coal.
I like to think he attacks Earth so much because Santa comes from it.
It is very sad to see how excited and enjoyed the movie knowing that WB did everything possible to bury it (not to mention the mistreatment and disrespect towards the actors and the director) and today they decided not to follow this story.
Marvel made Thor Love and Thunder CGI with millions of Dollars and the best Designers
Zack Snyder finished the Justice League for HBO Max as a passion project using an iPad
The end is alternative future, which shows Darkseid comes to Earth and killing almost every single superhero and conqueres Earth. Then the remain alive superhero are teaming up with the remain villains to fight Darkseid. That's why we see Deathstroke and Joker with the Justice League. Also in this future Bruce refuses to take a bullet to save Lois and she dies. The bones Superman holds are Lois. Then Superman turns evil and kinda goes to Darkseid side. That's why they showed The Flash saying to Bruce: Lois is the key. Because she needs to be saved, so Superman doesn't turn evil and he helps Justice League vs Darkseid. And in a different alternate future, Bruce dies, taking the shot who is supposted to hit Lois, and that's how they defeat Darkseid.
Just a little info on Martian Manhunter. Even if Superman used his x-ray vision on Martian Manhunter, when he was in his General disguise, he would only see human internal organs and bone and blood, because when a Martian changes shape, it's all the way down to the DNA of the shape that they take. At least that's how it was explained on Young Justice when Ms. Martian changed her blood to save Beast Boy, she took a sample of his blood and then altered her physiology to match his blood type.
30:57 that's why he didn't back away from the glass when all the soldiers did,he knew Supes saw him and stood his ground
Zack Synder is unmatched when it comes to action and visuals.
In the interrogation scene on Mos Clark does know, watch again.
Darkseids Lazer eyes is called an omega beam, it's like a homing missile.
we are never going to get a darksied movie. WB again going for a origin story for superman for the 1000th time
I love the Synderverse. This is superheroes for adults. It's a bloody shame that Warner Bros and DC have not stayed with this concept. I like James Gunn but I'm nervous for what changes are coming in the DCU. The Zack Snyder version will be what I now judge all superhero movies by.
Superheroes werent made for adults only. Zack's films may be a visual feast and dark but thats the extent of them for the most part. His films are far from what the gold standard of a comic book film should be like lmao. Edgar wright, Matthew Vaughn, The Russo Brothers, and James Gunn are all directors that have accurately adapted source material while pleasing the majority of audiences.
@@Keizi right and just because it’s dark doesn’t mean it’s for adults in fact I think the target demographic for these would be angsty 12-16 year old boys whereas marvel movies and movies like Shazam and Wonder Woman were made with everyone in mind
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@@Keizi I enjoyed and still enjoy the Marvel universe but DC comics were my number one pick and I stated that I like James Gunn. But I also enjoyed the darker Synder universe as sometimes superhero movies can feel more aimed to the teenage crowd. His Watchmen was great and more adult themed.
If you have seen SS and Peacemaker, GOTG, that is pretty much James Gunn. ...so we will see these throughout his DC universe. Aquaman, Flash movie and Shazam will be the last of what remained of ZS DC universe I feel..sad. ..I am ready to move on, even Marvel is starting to fizzle out
Darkseid has always been in search of the Anti-Life equation
My top 3 superhero movie for sure, and it’s heartbreaking after everything that happened lately
The scene where Flash rewinds time was the best in the movie.
“Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive.” Superman is absolutely that fast, my dude. Always was as far as I know. They made that scene for a reason. The guy is insanely OP.
Also yes everyone freaked out at all the cameos LMFAO. So glad you enjoyed Sndyer's DC and had an open mind!
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Can't believe WB played themselves this bad. How do you not continue this is beyond me smfh
because wb became wimps at the smallest backlash to bvs then had no idea what to do versus marvel not listening at all to backlash and making a mess of things. Marvel isnt reacting enough and DC overreacted too soon. both are failing.
Heartbreaking that we will never get the Darkside film that Zack would have gave us. Would have been one of the best movies 💔
I saw a cool theory that Bruce thinking that Flash's "Lois is the key" message meant "go get her when you bring Superman back" in Whedons version is what led to the "evil superman" timeline. Because it actually meant that losing Lois is what breaks Superman, but Bruce's let it go by then, he thinks he knows what it meant and its over.
In Snyder's, Bruce thinks it means something more and keeps it in mind, eventually figuring out that losing Lois is what breaks Superman, averting that disaster
Until the dream at the end, where learnt the dream warning was of another threat.
@@shauntempley9757 what do you mean....???
@@caliginousmoira8565The Joss Whedon version of JL had Batman initially think that the warning about Lois applied to when they brought Superman back. He clearly believed that in this version of the story. The vision of him talking to Joker shows more, and he is clearly worried about it.
The main thing, is that all Batman has to do is talk to the rest of JL about that concern, and Cyborg will report what he saw when he was in contact with the Motherbox in the Kryptonian ship.
His report will be crucial, because he saw clearly what happened when Superman, Darkseid and Lois were in a location to together and what played out.
@@shauntempley9757 i always took it as lois dying is the reason he snapped. for me, everything was given in the movie(extended cut)
also, thank you for answering
@@caliginousmoira8565 She did not just die. Darkseid killed her. It is why Clark is in the montage when Darkseid puts his hand on Clark's shoulder.
Flash's warning in BvS is about that moment. That Darkseid will kill Lois to turn Clark to his control, when for plenty of time, he thought it was about when Clark is resurrected.
Basically, Darkseid saw what Joker did with Robin in getting to Batman and upped the anti.
The card given to Batman is seen in the knightmare scene in BVS . Signaling that in that timeline joker and Batman are in a truce
Deathstroke was played by the same guy who played flash Thompson in the original Tony Maguire movies!
I didn't realize thwt
Superman wore a black suit to absorb more sunlight in order to get his powers recharged faster for stopping Steppenwolf
Black suit also helps him draw more power from the Sun 'cause black absorbs the light/heat
Game Theory made a theory on this movie saying that the first version of the film is the timeline that ends badly. It has been a while since I watched it but I remember it making sense. Also if you are looking for a new series to watch I recommend Endeavor (British crime drama) and 1899 (mystery drama).
The SnyderCut needing to be 4 hours long just so they could half-tell some backstory on these characters is very telling that they rushed into it & should've built these characters up in other films first to avoid that issue.
I feel I can speak for us all, do not bother with the theatrical cut. Also Darkseid is voiced by Ray Porter, the GOAT of voice acting and narration. I was so pumped he got that role.
31:00 check that scene in man of steel again. When superman stands up and breaks the handcuff everybody in the other room moves back except martian manhunter.
And at the end of the movie(mos), superman says to martian manhunter that he trusts him.
"Bat, you're the odd one out. Just a human."
To quote Joker "There's nothing mere about that mortal."
MoS, BVS Ult edit, and ZSJL are masterpieces. If WB had the balls and didn't cave in to minority complaining about solid movies and dark stories, we would be in a completely different DC world right now!
Because of Seb “AYO” is in my every other sentence. I swear I laugh every time he says it smh
23:00 I will never, ever forgive Whedon for cutting Granny Goodness. Not even the residual goodwill from Buffy and Firefly can make up for that
it's not just Joss whedon. it's decision also by Geoff John who did wonder woman 84 movie
I enjoyed your video. Keep up the good reactions.
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28:58 MAN I hope this vehicle is in the next one! Might be THE coolest Batmobile!?
the next films arent directed by Zack Snyder or part of the Snyderverse. Warner Bros fired Zack Snyder in the middle of production for Justice League so he couldnt even release it in 2015-2016, we had to wait and wait until 2021 for the movie to come out on home streaming. so the Snyderverse HAS BEEN OVER and this is sadly the last crumb we have of it.
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Him : "Superman is as fast as The Flash". "The Flash is useless". "Batman is useless". "Did Superman just make a black outfit?".
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I don’t know if Zack Synder really planned for the general to be Martian Manhunter from the beginning, but if you watch the final scene between him and Supes in Man of Steel, I swear there is something coy about the way Cavil looks at him, especially on the line about having to trust each other. It’s just enough to make it work for me.
Snyder never doing something without reason in his movie
Martian Manhunter and Hawkgirl would be two great adds to DC universe on the screen. 😭😭😭
He didn't plan it in Man of Steel, he said so during his Vero commentary of the film, it was planned from Bvs. But it fits perfectly in MoS too.
28:00 Part of the Snyderverse would also been a Deathstroke movie by the guy that did THE RAID MOVIES, imagine how crazy it would have beem. Look it up trust me.
Superman knew who he was in Man of Steel, in the scene when the arrested him, when he x-rayed through the wall and Gen. Swanwick knew who Superman was because Martian Manhunter read his mind. So they knew who each other was.
superman didn’t need a plan lol
Rewatching this is so tough when you know Henry will not be playing Superman anymore :(
I knew it was over for most of them the moment they pulled the plug on the Snyderverse. His appearance in Black Adam was just the Rock flexing his influence to stroke his own ego. Felt like the last flicker of a candle's flame before it dies out.
I hope one day WB will release this in theaters
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One of the best superhero movies, ever.
I loved this movie so much. I prefer dc as a universe and I like there hero’s but I always thought marvel had better movies but this, man of steel, and wonder woman are actually amazing
*like an old, wise MERman* caught me so off guard, I was laughing for minutes and had to rewind the video!
“Another films years down the line” ohhh If only😭
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25:16 WB has no interest to continue current DC universe
Oh and a few weeks ago, Henry was back as Superman for Man of Steel 2, to fight Braniac..... then James Gunn sacked everyone to make sure it could never happen
“Justice League: Flashpoint Paradox.” It’s animated, you should definitely watch it. Everyone should.
13:17 Wonder Woman was holding back through this entire fight that’s why she didn’t stand as much of a chance and wasn’t able to hold her own as well as she would’ve
Zack Snyder was planned to direct Justice League 2, Justice League 3, and possible Dark Knight Returns and Man of Steel 2. But we never get that now...
Not seen WW84, but Birds of Prey was great!
Yes the martian is Martian Manhunter. I don't know about comics and stuff bc I don't read them but I still have plenty of DC knowledge through the Injustice games, and the DC TV shows. But yes J'onn (is his name) is the military guy.
I don’t know the full back story. Apparently the suicide squad that was released was quite the watered down version from what it was written for.
From what I read over the years there was like this movie, a whole other movie inside the movie that had something like 80 additional minutes of screen time with the joker.
The studio cut most of it, and released the movie suicide squad. Hence the reason, release the Ayer’s cut gets mentioned along with release the snyderverse, release the Batflick film,