I find it amazing that over the last 100 years, although engines have underwent changes regarding overall efficiency and performance, the basic principles of how they operate hasn't changed much.
Hey J…. Sorry to see that video of you going back to your day job. The 10k earnings is real and unfortunately these streaming platforms don’t pay good money YET. Sometime down the road maybe. But for now… keep doing what you love for the love of it. I worked many years until I found real money in what I loved to do. I appreciate your amazing work and passion. Onward.
Enjoying the series. The views of the magneto got me curious, so I did a little searching. I found out magnetos generate AC current. One of the comments I came across was how the ignition was better with the magneto and the contacts in the ignition system lasted longer on the magneto. Recently, I was curious why switches always have a much lower DC voltage rating than the rating for AC voltage. With a little thought, I came to understand the difference. When contacts break DC voltage, the arc is much harder to quench, the current just keeps flowing. When contacts break AC voltage, there's always a brief period when the voltage crosses zero, it's at this instant the arc has a chance to quench. And so an AC voltage arc between separating contacts will always quench much more quickly than a DC arc between separating electrical contacts. Your videos provoke much thought.
I worked in my dad's service station as a kid in grade school, when this car would have been 31 to 37 years old. The Model T was already a curiosity. We had only one customer who drove one. When we serviced it, people would stop in to gawk. Today a 1990 Ford on the road is unremarkable. I have a 21-year-old Camaro Z28 that's barely broken in at 86K miles.
Our local Model T guy had been trying to figure out his dead magneto for years many years ago. Some friends introduced me and he explained that he had replaced everything, the magneto coils, wiring, ignition coil box... everything. So I asked for a wrench, which did not stick to the magnets! He was stunned. I didn't know about recharging them back then.
Min 13:02, Irecomend when you repair a metal crack like that it is neccesary to drill a hole at the end of the crack to prevent their extensinon. After that you can weld.
We used to repair boiler feed water pumps by drilling hundreds of holes and tapping every one of them overlapping each plug , then plugged. Can't remember the name of that.....
Who did the radiator? Were they pleased to see an honest-to-God brass radiator for a change? I imagine the old craftsman who work on brass radiators are becoming few and far between. My brother attended a "retirement party" for the local radiator shop guy years ago. He figured there'd be a few people there. He had to park a couple of blocks away! All the mechanics & service station owners in two counties attended his retirement, held at his shop. It was a bit of a hole-in-the-wall type shop, but he did good work! Imagine groups of guys gathered around assorted fire barrels, drinking beer and yacking into the wee hours of the morning. Wish I had attended.
@@Jerod_Helt Looking it up, a Model T in 1923 cost ~$750 and $750 in 1923 would be a little over $11,000 in today's dollars. Which seems right for a aver basic car. Imagine telling the owner in 1923 that the radiator alone would cost more than the whole car in 100 years.
Unless I missed it, you didn’t check the magneto gap. Unless you just got lucky, you will not get a mag that will work very well. That gap has to be within specs to function correctly
Hi John, Can you elaborate more about the Gap. Also the way you recharge the magnet how did you know ig your recharged them enough as well? I love your Video.
I agree with cudaman because there are so many things you kinda did wrong like using a power grinder on the place where the gasket sits, which you are NEVER supposed to use power tools on things like that because of the damage it can cause, but if you do use them make sure to look for uneven distribution of the pattern of wear from the tool which when you put the gasket on i saw a lot of uneven distribution of the pattern from the tool,and just to say if i can see it on the camera you could probably see it on your end and if you did not bother to fix it then you are going to have problems such as leakage, spills, loss in oil pressure, and most of all oil everywhere, also when you welded that piece on that mounting bracket the weld would hold for a little bit then break, if you wanted a good weld you should have used a stick welder for that not a wire/tig welder since tig welders can not do the size of weld like a stick welder can
Yeah things were definitely different back then. The manual recommends changing the piston rings every 10k miles and estimates that the job takes about an hour and half. Today’s cars go 10k miles between oil changes👍
Yes but there are two values gained: learning how a Model T works in detail; resorting one that would otherwise be lost. There are things more valuable than money.
@@vayabroder729 oops, you are right. I also watch Let'sDig18 and woof at his dog Winston. Must have popped up in the autocorrect. Thanks! And Woof to Walter. Hey, it worked this time!
At about 12:00 I'm thinking bout how efficient and forward thinking the design, even a little Honda VTEC is a crankshaft with pistons. After all these years, even a Bentley V12... crankshaft, pistons...
Hi John, Can you elaborate more about the magneto Gap please? Also the way you recharge the magnet, how did you know if your recharged them enough as well? I love your Video.
The book has the allowable gap clearances I checked them and they were good. The magnets got noticeable stronger by feel but I didn’t try to measure the difference in anyway. It was just much harder to remove the magneto after charging the magnets👍
There was an aftermarket “oiler” pipe and bracket that was attached there when I took the engine apart. I wasn’t sure when assembling the engine if I was going to reinstall it. I ended up not reinstalling it. I put bolts there before adding the engine oil.
please dont take this as a criticism because i'm just curious, but did i see it right that you didnt use a torque wrench on the rod caps? could it be that there isn't even a torque spec. for them?
No torque specs for anything on a model T and the bolts have cotter pins. Chances are you wouldn’t be able to get the spec and line up the hole for the cotter pin. It was fine a hundred years ago, should be fine today👍
No, it doesn’t really have a clutch. It’s a planetary gear transmission... I’ve watched videos explaining how it works and I still don’t fully understand it
Tengo en existencia 4pistones Std, de ford 48,se ven parecidos, pero nuevos x q lo q veo es q estan utilzando los usados, pero el problema es q estoy en yaracuy - Venezuela.
Unbelievable how you didn't torque anything. I have built a lot of '50s and '60s engines. No safety wire or cotter pins, but everything has to be torqued.
Если только с силуминовыми блоками сравнивать то да - вечный. А если взять хотя бы вазовский мотор с 8-ки, то на режимах работы движка ford T он проработает две вечности. Коленвал слабенький, шатуны слабые по современным меркам, опор мало, корень шатуна маленький и узкий, никаких маслофорсунок и т.д. И да на 10.10, кажется, намагничивал диск для работы магнето.
@@ВячеславБибиков-п3ю Двигатель Ford T - четырёхцилиндровый, рабочим объёмом 2893 см³ (177 кубических дюймов). Мощность 20 л. с. (15 кВт), максимальная развиваемая скорость автомобиля 64-72 км/час (40-45 миль в час). Для таких показателей наверное достаточно было.
I thought this was very interesting the rebuild shows a forgotten model t and the dc generating system slaved to the drive shaft which is exactly the tech we are rediscovering with our device....Why do you think it was forgotten or suppressed...Not a conspiracy but ford consulted with Nicola Tesla often in fact they felt the model t was for the masses... The common mans car Tesla had even built a repurposed victrola for the ford tin lizzy an electric car capable of being flueless...but the same problem of magnets losing charge was to blame...The prohect was shelved... looks like they figured out how to recharge the magnets as time went on...Today we have rare earth magnets that hold charge for 500 years before polarization is diminished ...very interesting...
I don’t like the radiator with that stuff on it. Couldn’t you find a more original looking radiator? I mean I not trying to tell you what to do, but I go for original with I can get it. I just think it would look way better.
Looks like you’re right... “The Model T has a front-mounted 177-cubic-inch (2.9 L) inline four-cylinder engine, producing 20 hp (15 kW), for a top speed of 40-45 mph (64-72 km/h). According to Ford Motor Company, the Model T had fuel economy on the order of 13-21 mpg‑US (16-25 mpg‑imp; 18-11 L/100 km).”
I have rebuilt a few model T engines plus model A early Chevy 4 cylinders a lot of later model car and tractor I have never ever seen such shitty ever did not check a thing yes the model T never had any torque specs but all bolts have a torque spec what is the air gap between fly wheel and magneto ring could not believe how dirty the inside of the block was just back from machine shop by the way i am in my mid 60"s
Sounds like you have a lot more experience than me. I'm not a mechanic, just a guy working on his own cars in his own garage. I definitely would not call this an engine rebuild. This was more of a deep cleaning with some new seals. The valve seats had pitting so they were reground, and the manual says to replace the rings every 10k miles so they got replaced as well. Otherwise it's a stock engine. Thanks for watching!
me parece que las tuercas de las tapas de biela van apretadas con un torquimetro de lo contrario vas a terminar pronto con ese motor pero de romperlo si no sabes mejor no metas mano la mecanica es para gente que tiene estudio y si lo haces por hobby dedicate a otra cosa
I find it amazing that over the last 100 years, although engines have underwent changes regarding overall efficiency and performance, the basic principles of how they operate hasn't changed much.
I'm totally addicted to this project, can't wait for the next installment!
Strangely, me too...
I love how you make a 100-year-old engine look brand new!
Hey J…. Sorry to see that video of you going back to your day job. The 10k earnings is real and unfortunately these streaming platforms don’t pay good money YET. Sometime down the road maybe. But for now… keep doing what you love for the love of it. I worked many years until I found real money in what I loved to do. I appreciate your amazing work and passion. Onward.
Enjoying the series. The views of the magneto got me curious, so I did a little searching. I found out magnetos generate AC current. One of the comments I came across was how the ignition was better with the magneto and the contacts in the ignition system lasted longer on the magneto.
Recently, I was curious why switches always have a much lower DC voltage rating than the rating for AC voltage. With a little thought, I came to understand the difference. When contacts break DC voltage, the arc is much harder to quench, the current just keeps flowing. When contacts break AC voltage, there's always a brief period when the voltage crosses zero, it's at this instant the arc has a chance to quench. And so an AC voltage arc between separating contacts will always quench much more quickly than a DC arc between separating electrical contacts.
Your videos provoke much thought.
Thanks for the info. Very interesting👍
Fascinating on the magneto - thanks for the education! 👍
What were the small wires? They look so fragile. I couldn’t make out how you were attaching them to the magneto.
@@sleb99 Do you mean the safety wires? They're used to keep the bolts holding the flywheel on from loosening.
What a cool engine....and super interesting how it's built! Love the work you're putting to it, it'll turn out amazing
This model T is a great build. Can’t wait for the engine to start. Take Wilbur for a cruise!
Swdd
So, I am thinking about getting a Model-T, but I wanted to learn about rebuilding the engine first. Thanks for this latest series in the project.
Having worked in aviation for 26 years, I winced at the safety wire job. LMAO! It will hold just fine though, cool project.
I felt exactly the same. I learned to do lockwire in the Navy working in the engine room of a submarine. Lots of things to lockwire there.
Extremely detailed and great to watch!
I worked in my dad's service station as a kid in grade school, when this car would have been 31 to 37 years old. The Model T was already a curiosity. We had only one customer who drove one. When we serviced it, people would stop in to gawk. Today a 1990 Ford on the road is unremarkable. I have a 21-year-old Camaro Z28 that's barely broken in at 86K miles.
Our local Model T guy had been trying to figure out his dead magneto for years many years ago. Some friends introduced me and he explained that he had replaced everything, the magneto coils, wiring, ignition coil box... everything. So I asked for a wrench, which did not stick to the magnets! He was stunned. I didn't know about recharging them back then.
Hi . Recently watched MrCrispin on TH-cam and learnt a lot about Rings. Worth a watch.
Min 13:02, Irecomend when you repair a metal crack like that it is neccesary to drill a hole at the end of the crack to prevent their extensinon. After that you can weld.
also don't remove the tig torch to quickly. needs post gas
We used to repair boiler feed water pumps by drilling hundreds of holes and tapping every one of them overlapping each plug , then plugged. Can't remember the name of that.....
@@ronalddaub7965 I think they call that pinning I have that done on cast iron
Really enjoying your videos. Fantastic work
Don't forget the oil pipe! It goes under one of the magneto coil ring bolts.
Thank you! I completely forgot. I will need to pull the transmission off again to install that oil tube👍
You probably saved the engine
Who did the radiator? Were they pleased to see an honest-to-God brass radiator for a change? I imagine the old craftsman who work on brass radiators are becoming few and far between. My brother attended a "retirement party" for the local radiator shop guy years ago. He figured there'd be a few people there. He had to park a couple of blocks away! All the mechanics & service station owners in two counties attended his retirement, held at his shop. It was a bit of a hole-in-the-wall type shop, but he did good work! Imagine groups of guys gathered around assorted fire barrels, drinking beer and yacking into the wee hours of the morning. Wish I had attended.
Great story. I bought the radiator and it was very expensive. About $1,000😳
@@Jerod_Helt Looking it up, a Model T in 1923 cost ~$750 and $750 in 1923 would be a little over $11,000 in today's dollars. Which seems right for a aver basic car. Imagine telling the owner in 1923 that the radiator alone would cost more than the whole car in 100 years.
Love the ford Model "T" didn't know had that One Piece style pan... Interesting, Never owned one, who knows Millions Made, there one out there for me.
Me too, but I'd get overwhelmed to have one in the condition it was in.
Don't forget the press in new wrist pins because that might make a tapping noise that will drive you nuts
Nunca había visto algo igual ,me és muy interesante .
From Managua Nic.
Exelente , es un Maestro .Fecitaciones ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
From the look of it that engine will last another 100 yrs once completed.
Ford Model T is the best car ever
I would like for you guys to have an episode featuring Henry Ford's Magnetic drive.
Great vids - hooked and subbed!
Unless I missed it, you didn’t check the magneto gap. Unless you just got lucky, you will not get a mag that will work very well. That gap has to be within specs to function correctly
Hi John, Can you elaborate more about the Gap. Also the way you recharge the magnet how did you know ig your recharged them enough as well? I love your Video.
Just found your channel. Nice car. Hope that engine stayed on those Jack stands.
Это же сама Жестяная Лиззи,собственной персоны))
Excellent work I congratulate you
Henry Ford is proud of u
I agree with cudaman because there are so many things you kinda did wrong like using a power grinder on the place where the gasket sits, which you are NEVER supposed to use power tools on things like that because of the damage it can cause, but if you do use them make sure to look for uneven distribution of the pattern of wear from the tool which when you put the gasket on i saw a lot of uneven distribution of the pattern from the tool,and just to say if i can see it on the camera you could probably see it on your end and if you did not bother to fix it then you are going to have problems such as leakage, spills, loss in oil pressure, and most of all oil everywhere, also when you welded that piece on that mounting bracket the weld would hold for a little bit then break, if you wanted a good weld you should have used a stick welder for that not a wire/tig welder since tig welders can not do the size of weld like a stick welder can
青色の液体ガスケット･･･昔のワコーズガスケットメイクを彷彿とさせて懐かしかった。
que genial video!
Excellent!
I guess torque specs don't matter LOL
Interesting to have cotter pins on the rod bolts
Pretty darn interesting technology for 1923
Yeah things were definitely different back then. The manual recommends changing the piston rings every 10k miles and estimates that the job takes about an hour and half. Today’s cars go 10k miles between oil changes👍
Great video. I learned alot but I think I would buy one already driveable.
That’s a good idea. It’s much cheaper to buy one in good condition👍
Yes but there are two values gained: learning how a Model T works in detail; resorting one that would otherwise be lost. There are things more valuable than money.
That magneto looks big enough to power a small town.
It would be nice if you made the silent films black and white so that they look iconic.
Look at the engine it's green.
Or the old Brown and white films they had in this cars time period.
H. F. are a genius.
I like to use a torque wrench on the piston rods,,,...
Try using a high amperage battery to make the starter turn over quicker & no advance
Thanks, and Woof to Winston.
Walter? 😉
@@vayabroder729 his dog, often in the videos.
@@johnapel2856 sure! His name is Walter...😉🐶
@@vayabroder729 oops, you are right.
I also watch Let'sDig18 and woof at his dog Winston. Must have popped up in the autocorrect.
Thanks!
And Woof to Walter.
Hey, it worked this time!
@@johnapel2856 that explains it! Also they both start with W....😉
At about 12:00 I'm thinking bout how efficient and forward thinking the design, even a little Honda VTEC is a crankshaft with pistons. After all these years, even a Bentley V12... crankshaft, pistons...
Значение Форд Т для Американцев описал Джон Стеинбек в рассказе ,,Консервный ряд,,
Good job 👍👍👍👍👍
That certainly is a wonderfully made Dodge engine!
Can you tell me what paint you used on the block. Brand, color name? Thanks!
I like the POR engine paints
i like to see a video on how that magneto flywheel works
Did the babbitt bearings for the crank need to be replaced?
No, and if they had I probably would have just bought another engine
Bravooo
secure the screws with Locktide
I damn sure would not want him to built my model T engine
Don’t worry I’m not a mechanic and I don’t work on other peoples cars. Just a guy tinkering around with some interesting cars👍
Esa parte que coloco en la cabeza del cigüeñal cómo se llama y que función desempeña no había visto ese tipo de motores gracias
This is awesome! I’m curious; do they have have any torque specifications for this model? I see you already installed the new radiator core!
Any bearings replaced on the engine? That oil pan is one hell of a stamping!
Luckily they looked good. That’s a big job if you need to replace them.
Guess yu n uh ur Daddy worked on these T's back when yuns were young Best of luck on yur restoration later Rev
This is the first time I’ve ever worked on or even seen a Model T up close👍
I'm a little new to the rebuild game, so please forgive my ignorance, but is the purpose of the wire wrapped around the magneto bolts?
To prevent them from coming loose
Cool
I would have used high tack on the cork gaskets . Just so it don`t move around.
Curious why only sealant on one mating surface?
I just used it to hold the gasket in place during assembly. I try not to use too much sealant.
@@Jerod_Helt they say a little bit of grease instead of sealant on the cork gaskets works fantastically.
@@vayabroder729 it does.
Всегда было интересно на смотреть на старые нижневальные моторы 4 литра 25 коней
Geez I forgot Walters name! Give Walter a big kiss for me.
Hi John, Can you elaborate more about the magneto Gap please? Also the way you recharge the magnet, how did you know if your recharged them enough as well? I love your Video.
The book has the allowable gap clearances I checked them and they were good. The magnets got noticeable stronger by feel but I didn’t try to measure the difference in anyway. It was just much harder to remove the magneto after charging the magnets👍
What type of paint did you use on engine block?
I used a POR engine paint
Why did you Not add those last 3 bolts at the end of the pan here 14:45 ?
There was an aftermarket “oiler” pipe and bracket that was attached there when I took the engine apart. I wasn’t sure when assembling the engine if I was going to reinstall it. I ended up not reinstalling it. I put bolts there before adding the engine oil.
please dont take this as a criticism because i'm just curious, but did i see it right that you didnt use a torque wrench on the rod caps? could it be that there isn't even a torque spec. for them?
No torque specs for anything on a model T and the bolts have cotter pins. Chances are you wouldn’t be able to get the spec and line up the hole for the cotter pin. It was fine a hundred years ago, should be fine today👍
What work did the machine shop do?
They cleaned up the valve seats
Does the clutch work by magnetization?
No, it doesn’t really have a clutch. It’s a planetary gear transmission... I’ve watched videos explaining how it works and I still don’t fully understand it
@@Jerod_Helt It's really interesting.
👍
Tengo en existencia 4pistones Std, de ford 48,se ven parecidos, pero nuevos x q lo q veo es q estan utilzando los usados, pero el problema es q estoy en yaracuy - Venezuela.
...no torque wrench needed?
The manual doesn’t call out any torque specs... but there are carter pins and castle nuts
@@Jerod_Helt No torque specs from Ford, but a modern consensus is here: www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/506218/530603.html?1428101396
@@Jerod_Helt Cotter pins?
Unbelievable how you didn't torque anything. I have built a lot of '50s and '60s engines. No safety wire or cotter pins, but everything has to be torqued.
0.30 вот это блок ...вечный не то что современный силуминовый ! А поршня и кольца вообще класс! А что делал на 10.10 ?
Если только с силуминовыми блоками сравнивать то да - вечный.
А если взять хотя бы вазовский мотор с 8-ки, то на режимах работы движка ford T он проработает две вечности.
Коленвал слабенький, шатуны слабые по современным меркам, опор мало, корень шатуна маленький и узкий, никаких маслофорсунок и т.д.
И да на 10.10, кажется, намагничивал диск для работы магнето.
@@ВячеславБибиков-п3ю Двигатель Ford T - четырёхцилиндровый, рабочим объёмом 2893 см³ (177 кубических дюймов). Мощность 20 л. с. (15 кВт), максимальная развиваемая скорость автомобиля 64-72 км/час (40-45 миль в час). Для таких показателей наверное достаточно было.
Пускач с С-130 сильно похож,только цилиндра там два.
I thought this was very interesting the rebuild shows a forgotten model t and the dc generating system slaved to the drive shaft which is exactly the tech we are rediscovering with our device....Why do you think it was forgotten or suppressed...Not a conspiracy but ford consulted with Nicola Tesla often in fact they felt the model t was for the masses... The common mans car Tesla had even built a repurposed victrola for the ford tin lizzy an electric car capable of being flueless...but the same problem of magnets losing charge was to blame...The prohect was shelved... looks like they figured out how to recharge the magnets as time went on...Today we have rare earth magnets that hold charge for 500 years before polarization is diminished ...very interesting...
I don’t like the radiator with that stuff on it. Couldn’t you find a more original looking radiator? I mean I not trying to tell you what to do, but I go for original with I can get it. I just think it would look way better.
It’s an original radiator and it was extremely expensive 👍
You forgot the oil tube?
Did you have to re-babbitt the bearings? Did she need new cam bushings/bearings? Did you consider installing a 280 cam and a high compression head?
The bearings and cam where fine. I prefer stock👍
Love the project but what is with your subtitles.
Just trying to do something unique…
Cool I got ya, I sort of assumed that but wasn't for sure.
do you ... or did you .... show the valve seats being fixed .....
I go over the valves in this Sunday Update video th-cam.com/video/7Is-B962RFE/w-d-xo.html
Isn't a model T about 200 cubic inches?
Looks like you’re right... “The Model T has a front-mounted 177-cubic-inch (2.9 L) inline four-cylinder engine, producing 20 hp (15 kW), for a top speed of 40-45 mph (64-72 km/h). According to Ford Motor Company, the Model T had fuel economy on the order of 13-21 mpg‑US (16-25 mpg‑imp; 18-11 L/100 km).”
That is the later, Model A engine. The T is smaller.
i don't see video 9 part 2
model T engines are black..Model a and beyond are green
I have rebuilt a few model T engines plus model A early Chevy 4 cylinders a lot of later model car and tractor I have never ever seen such shitty ever did not check a thing yes the model T never had any torque specs but all bolts have a torque spec what is the air gap between fly wheel and magneto ring could not believe how dirty the inside of the block was just back from machine shop by the way i am in my mid 60"s
Sounds like you have a lot more experience than me. I'm not a mechanic, just a guy working on his own cars in his own garage. I definitely would not call this an engine rebuild. This was more of a deep cleaning with some new seals. The valve seats had pitting so they were reground, and the manual says to replace the rings every 10k miles so they got replaced as well. Otherwise it's a stock engine. Thanks for watching!
12:00 pre-loctite
still used in aeronautics tho
The Honda is back! What’s up with that?
It’s just parked for now while I drive the 912👍
Do you speak spanish?
No, I wish I could. I just use google translate
@@Jerod_Helt oh yeah, just to tell you that i really liked your videos i learned a lot about old engines.
@@Jerod_Helt now you have a subscriber
me parece que las tuercas de las tapas de biela van apretadas con un torquimetro de lo contrario vas a terminar pronto con ese motor pero de romperlo si no sabes mejor no metas mano la mecanica es para gente que tiene estudio y si lo haces por hobby dedicate a otra cosa
Show 🤔
My brother jave one of this shit cars.