Rogan tries to play the "Bro, I don't care either way. I just wanna get high and talk shit" card, and yet 90% of his guests with political opinions are Right Wing/I swear I'm not Right Wing grifters. The only one Joe semi-called out, because - like - her arguments were so blatantly b.s. and jr. high, was Candace Owens. Rogan knows that Sam would gladly appear on his show to back up every criticism of the GOP Grift Gang. There's a reason why he hasn't extended an invite.
Pretty Rickey he called out Dave Rubin on some stuff before. He doesn't have Sam Seder on because his show's format doesn't fit will with Sam's show style. Not saying Sam can only talk the way he does on the show, but that the a lot of the focus of his show is criticism of people which isn't what Rogan likes to talk about on his show. I think it'd make much more sense for Michael to go on since his show talks about foreign policy and stuff primarily.
@@Hhhhhh-sz9ud Of course seder could BS his way through a couple hour podcast with brain-dead Rogan, dont be absurd. The reason Joe doesnt have him on is that 1) he's not really that interesting or noteworthy and 2) His positions would make 3/4's of Joe's audience - who prefer their red-baiting hysteria - lose their mush-brains
Joe defends him because he's part of their crew. Joe tries to be Switzerland with his friends or people that agree with him ideologically. It's called the battle of ideas, starring Dave Hasbeen.
I'm a right-wing monster and I totally agree. All I would add is female politicians on Twitter need to get a grip in the same way. Same standards for everyone.
I love how Joe Rogan's characterizations/defenses of Dave Rubin as a "wounded antelope" or "someone who's cognitively limited" are inadvertently way more insulting than any of Sam's criticisms. I hope he keeps up with this.
The only guy Sam is dunking is on himself. He's got the most idiotic fans in youtube. If you watch this and TYT regularly you should have your brain checked out. This guy's talkin half truths and you all eat it this shit like caviar.
Every time you guys go after Dave, it was because of something he said. He is a public figure being paid by the Koch brothers to (poorly) push right-wing/libertarian ideas. The idea that it is somehow unfair to call him out is absurd.
Wrong...they're childishly insulting just as much as they are being critical towards his ideas. That's the issue here. Don't make it so personal and people would take TMR more seriously.
Exactly. If he doesn’t, he’s not living completely up to his reputation as the one to talk to anyone. Like if he’ll talk to Alex Jones, there’s no reason not to talk to Sam (I know he’s friends with Jones and Jones is right and Sam is left and Joe “only talks to right wingers,” but Joe can be the bigger person here and if he doesn’t eventually, that will reflect on his rep).
Vasilijan Nikolovski probably true, but Joe could start to see Rubin a little differently, which could lead to a sea change in the way his audience sees Rubin
@Vasilijan Nikolovski Then Rogan is going to clip every single part where Sam Seder recogniced that some left wing people are idiots, and not the rest of the interview were Sam dismantles all of Joe's dumb right wing hysteria. Just like he did with Pakman.
@@hurkamur1 that is true, I think Joe would have him on. Has Sam ever politely floated a conversation on ideas with Roe Jogan? Where's that incredible mash-up video editor. Get blue-flame-eyes effects on this invitation challenge.
It's actually not at all. He's had tons of cool kids on: Kyle Kulinski, Jimmy Dore, Cenk and Anna, Pakman, Tulsi, Yang, etc. The idea that he's dodging or that he's a gateway to Nazis is preposterous and that attitude just fuels the bad arguments of the right wingers. I really hope he does have Sam on because I like both but please stop equating JRE to FoxNews. You do your cause a disservice.
@steal threaded Kyle Kulinski has more subs than Seder. TJ Kirk has almost twice as many. Jimmy Dore has about the same. Tulsi's a goddamn presidential nominee. Gtfo with your "he only has fringe leftists" bullshit 🙄🤣
Shaun Varga that doesn’t really..make sense? If you say someone is being treated like a piece of shit, are you saying they’re a piece of shit? You can’t use metaphor to express how someone else is treating someone without endorsing the metaphor? I’m not sure you’re thinking clearly there buddy..
@@tobymcinnis7031 It's not a metaphor. 'Treated like a wounded antelope' is a simile, a comparison. 'Treated like shit' is also a simile, but the phrase means 'treated badly'. If your example was 'if you are treated like a shit, then maybe you are a shit', it would be closer and indeed be a true statement in some circumstances. The poster is saying that the guy made Dave look weak with the comparison, and I personally agree.
3:36 The most prominent right-wing pundits on social-media( including the very classical liberal Dave Rubin) use that type of framing. ''leftists gets schooled'', '' leftists gets destroyed'', ''liberal tears'', ''Trump derangement syndrome'' etc... People like Dave Rubin created a brand as the ''alternative media'' in opposition to the ''Media'' that relies on sensationalism, mistruths, identity politics and political agenda. People like dave rubin go to college campuses to ''school'' teenagers about how much they're snowflakes and ''owns'' them for views. Dave Rubin is the '' battle of ideas''-man himself, the free-speech absolutist. Then how come you hardly see any progressive on his show? How come whenever he invites someone who claims to be on the right or critical of the left, he almost never pushes back( like closeted NAZI Stephan Molyneux for example). Dave Rubin is no ''wounded antelope'', he's a business man. He knows that dunking on the ''sjw'' left makes money.
Lol Same. Come on Sam... Be more open about how you really feel. We all know you couldn't possibly think he's complicated. At least not complicated compared to... The mind of a potato lol.
As someone who used to listen to Joe Rogan’s podcast regularly, thank you. Seriously. I really appreciate you covering these people Joe doesn’t call out for things they really need to be challenged on. I am so grateful I found your channel and have binge watched videos you’ve done on others from the IDW. It woke me up from some really damaging and embarrassingly dumb ideas and beliefs.
Tbf although Joe often platforms these guys and seems to be at least friendly, if not friends with most of them; he does often challenge their wacky statements.
hurkamur1 That is true, and his openness and willingness to discuss ideas often completely demolished by others is refreshing and appealing at times. Still though, a lot of things get brushed past either because Joe doesn’t wanna be confrontational or he just doesn’t know enough about the subject to push back. I still like Joe, it’s just frustrating listening to some people get away with saying or doing awful shit, especially if they are repeats and he’s clearly friends with them. Like come the fuck on at some point you gotta stop defending the undefendable.
@@English3Muffin Well that's the thing, he seems to at least superficially offer some sort of comfort and casual conversation to all of his guests. He lets guests speak for themselves, but ultimately constantly boosts bad "ideas" and (with his pals) only challenges the outrageously stupid comments.
Dr Downtime Don’t get me wrong, I do like Joe and I respect his approach in many ways, but I don’t like that he brings people on without fully researching what they’ve done or what they say, not enough to be able to challenge them except for the very obvious bullshit. I prefer people who do more research of their guests as opposed to giving them the benefit of the doubt when they don’t deserve it.
If Dave Rubin or anyone in the IDW or TP USA, or JRE, can’t handle robust criticism in the intrinsic flaws in their arguments; don’t start b*tching and moaning later when Rubin, Shapiro, Kirk, Petterson, Harris, or Crowder get dragged around with accurate assessments of the open intellectual culture.
I notice that about Joe. Once he gets to know someone personally, have dinner with them, and consider them his friend, he gets really biased. It's really obvious that most of the time, when Dave Rubin gets roasted, it's his own fault. Saying really stupid things or obviously lying. Even Joe caught Dave doing this a couple of times on his own podcast on air. It's like he's willfully ignoring this fact...
I'm not sure that even Joe knows exactly where he stands. Like many individuals, he's in the middle of a epic anti-SJW temper tantrum and is currently a little too worked up to really take stock of who he is and what he believes
Rhys Peregrine Maybe he got caught up in the anti-SJW fever a little too late in life? Whatever his issue is, he should get over it soon. Being an enabler for the likes of Rubin and Crowder doesn’t look good for anyone.
Again. I honestly can't tell if Rogan is just misinformed, or is actually disingenuous, and trying to play to a certain side. But just in how he talks about Rubin, it feels like he's either very biased, or extremely naïve. And the defense that Rubin is "just BS-ing," is absurd. But really missing the point, too, imo. It's not just that Rubin is talking out of his ass. It's that he's lying about very specific things, in very specific ways. When Joe leaves that part out, I really wonder why. Does he really not understand how important that is? Or is he just trying to help Rubin? And why is Rogan trying to help Rubin anyway? Did I miss something?
Haha. So true. Weinstein saying " sophisticated individuals are trying to either boost or alter our signal" cracked me up, such obnoxious arrogant drivvle
My impression is that the idw was a memetic experiment. If you watch the episode you'll notice that Weinstein says he enjoys fucking with people. The fact that human perception is so malleable that one can get twitter mobs to treat a list of random names as some sort of collective without providing adequate justification is fascinating. Weinstein is playing some kind of power game, I doubt he gives a shit about Rubin.
@@hilbertsinn6886 Ok what if replace "the idw was a memetic experiment" with "weinstein saw an easy opportunity to further a personal agenda by introducing a nonsense term that would clearly gain traction." These seem the same to me though.
Please Sound Drop when Weinstein says, “Eat Dave Rubin, Blind him, or Confuse him” It’s literally the most absurd accusation I heard anyone say about someone like Sam Seder or Michael Brooks, who actually knock some sense into Rubin’s constant quasi-politics nonsense.
Sad how many people jumped to Crowder's defense when he attacked Carlos Maza personally, but when Sam criticizes Rubin's intelligence he's the biggest bully ever.
Sam, Dave invites Ben Shapiro on x3 (at least) and Ben has told him to his face he wouldn’t even attend his gay marriage *AFTER PARTY* because it’s too icky FFS 😆 Same with Prager. I can’t invite someone on her title of a video of me as “stupid“ but I will try to be BFFs with people who think I will burn in hell for my sexual orientation. 🤦🏻♂️
Rogan’s advocating a type of good ol boys club. Kicking back, smoking cigars with like minded TH-cam sensations in the sanctity of a little smoke filled studio somewhere.
Makes sense, they receive funding and invitations to speak at the same places. Also hitching your wagon to the intellectual dark web gets you a New York Times article and an invitation to Bill Maher n many main stream news networks. You dont really see people on the left getting this treatment.
@@playerjoe I was also like ' whaaaaa?' when he said he disliked 'dunking' and ' dragging' when things like ' x annihilates feminist / leftist/ college kid ' is pretty much how the IDW even got where it is.
I watched the Weinstein thing and was saying to myself does this bloke not know that because he's voicing opinion in public he's open to be criticized it's very weird the way he thinks it's an attack on the ultimate truth of the bubble he lives in anyway I enjoyed this bit it's very soap opera
@Brainjock You don't understand context at all. And don't reply to me asking for an explanation, because I already know you necessarily lack the intelligence to understand my answer.
You should watch the series that Timbah On Toast did on Rubin. It's long but worth every minute and can strengthen your argument about why it's important to criticize him.
The part about a "disturbed feed-back loop" is dead on. The criticism is the feedback genius! The "free market of ideas" is IDW's whole cornerstone, yet they want to hide in a bubble from valid criticism.
IN DEFENCE OF DAVE RUBIN (hear me out): I think that taking the good and the bad, Dave Rubin is a positive gain to the world, not because he is particularly brilliant, or because he has complex views, but because of the role he plays with young right-leaning people. It is true that he is a "one-trick pony", but his trick--"Talk to people who disagree with you and try to find an opinion with which you actually agree"--is needed. It's like Jazz. If you want to get someone into Jazz, you can't give them a copy of Tim Berne's Science Friction, because they would just get nauseous and forget about the whole "jazz thing" forever. Instead, you start with Louis Armstrong and work your way up. Now, imagine all of those millions of teenagers, born and raised into conservative homes and communities. Suddenly they hit 18 years of age and start to wonder if there's more to life than games and partying. "Maybe I should take a look at this 'politics thing' people can't seem to stop talking about". They are NOT going to start their journey by listening to Sam, or anyone from the left. I know you wish they would, but they won't. So, I mild, soft "righty" like Dave, who also has some traditionally left opinions, like gay marriage, pro-choice, and the like, is a good starting point. Being open to talking to people on the other side, and being respectful, is IMO what this world needs.
Funny how every time Rogan tries to defend Rubin, he unintentionally dunks on him. Poor Dave, he's a little slow, Sam should be nicer to him!
Sure it's unintentional?
Credit to Rogan for at the very least razzing this self-serious goober weistein charlatan
Rogan tries to play the "Bro, I don't care either way. I just wanna get high and talk shit" card, and yet 90% of his guests with political opinions are Right Wing/I swear I'm not Right Wing grifters. The only one Joe semi-called out, because - like - her arguments were so blatantly b.s. and jr. high, was Candace Owens. Rogan knows that Sam would gladly appear on his show to back up every criticism of the GOP Grift Gang. There's a reason why he hasn't extended an invite.
Pretty Rickey he called out Dave Rubin on some stuff before. He doesn't have Sam Seder on because his show's format doesn't fit will with Sam's show style. Not saying Sam can only talk the way he does on the show, but that the a lot of the focus of his show is criticism of people which isn't what Rogan likes to talk about on his show. I think it'd make much more sense for Michael to go on since his show talks about foreign policy and stuff primarily.
@@Hhhhhh-sz9ud Of course seder could BS his way through a couple hour podcast with brain-dead Rogan, dont be absurd. The reason Joe doesnt have him on is that 1) he's not really that interesting or noteworthy and 2) His positions would make 3/4's of Joe's audience - who prefer their red-baiting hysteria - lose their mush-brains
Joe Rogan: Alex Jones is a nice guy..
Joe Rogan: Sam Seder is a big meenie..
James Wilhite Joe knows who butters his bread.
@Dom Trussardi Is weird the new definition for disingenuous idiot?
blow jogan blows
Wow i forgot about that. Yea if jones is acceptable, seder is beyond acceptable
I don't want to simply think that Joe is doing this on purpose.
I just think Joe gets along with the other folk so he feels this way.
Dave deserves everything that's coming to him. If you can't take the heat don't stand in the spotlight.
Dave: Yelp, as a gay man I would like to leave a negative review for Sam Seder.
Seth well played, sir.
Joe defends him because he's part of their crew. Joe tries to be Switzerland with his friends or people that agree with him ideologically. It's called the battle of ideas, starring Dave Hasbeen.
or if you can't take the heat, don't brand yourself as this Intellectual Dark Web, "ideas", free speech warrior
I'm a right-wing monster and I totally agree. All I would add is female politicians on Twitter need to get a grip in the same way. Same standards for everyone.
I love how Joe Rogan's characterizations/defenses of Dave Rubin as a "wounded antelope" or "someone who's cognitively limited" are inadvertently way more insulting than any of Sam's criticisms. I hope he keeps up with this.
Annika could be a satire bit but rogan’s comedy is not that clever.
Nah, he's just trying to defend him and doing a terrible albeit amusing job.
@@annuuuushka ikr? That's ghastly.
Vincent Sample I’ve never met a Joe Rogan hater before lol
@@annuuuushka wow you're really cute
I'm just in pieces over the fact that we will never have the privilege of witnessing Michael's Dave Rubin impression again in this life.
PREACH.
Just stumbled across this show in the last couple months. Had no idea he had passed away. Him and Sam are great together
@@b_hak they were very good friends. 💙 Definitely go back and watch them together and Michael on his show.
He can't handle how hot things are getting with the dial of ideas turned up so high.
exactly
So high off all these mf’inking ideas fam *snorts a mountain of coke infused ideas*
@@deceps The ideas are turned up to 11.
😂😂😂
lol
The free market place of grifting.
💯
Somebody should tell the weirdo epstein-weinstein creeper guy that he could use a hair cut
@Justin The Fixer are you sure that's hair?
@@joeavreg2254 Good point
Racism is very profitable in a corporatcy/capitalist society.
It's a weird time when people can't understand why someone might not like letting obvious liars just say whatever unchecked.
This comment is just too perfect
They know why Rubin gets legitimately criticised and they’re protecting him because he’s in their in-group.
Yeah, honestly fuck Joe Rogan at this point.
I wish our media was more like the (I believe Russian) host that slapped the psychic to prove he was a charlatan.
The only guy Sam is dunking is on himself. He's got the most idiotic fans in youtube. If you watch this and TYT regularly you should have your brain checked out. This guy's talkin half truths and you all eat it this shit like caviar.
If Dave Rubin is constantly getting “dunked on”, then maybe it’s because he’s always wrong.
Or..........you’re a dumbass.
And also...........sam’s a dumbass
@@jordanthomas4379 nice cope
he truly is a lightweight thinker...
@@jordanthomas4379
What is it you appreciate about Dave Rubin?
“The soft bigotry of low expectations.”
Nicely put.
@@mackhomie6 thanks for the memories..
(Michael Gerson was speechwriter for Bush.)
@@mackhomie6 Yes, GWHBush was an era of highly mesmerizing if deceptive wordsmithing.
Every time you guys go after Dave, it was because of something he said. He is a public figure being paid by the Koch brothers to (poorly) push right-wing/libertarian ideas. The idea that it is somehow unfair to call him out is absurd.
Every time you guys go after Dave, a high level idea dies 😢
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@@MrChristyCree , 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wrong...they're childishly insulting just as much as they are being critical towards his ideas. That's the issue here. Don't make it so personal and people would take TMR more seriously.
@David Ilea Is that the Kevin Bacon 6 degrees of separation game?
Rogan should have Sam on his show so he and his audience get the full picture. That would be a true “battle of ideas”.
High level ideas.
I need to lie down
Exactly. If he doesn’t, he’s not living completely up to his reputation as the one to talk to anyone. Like if he’ll talk to Alex Jones, there’s no reason not to talk to Sam (I know he’s friends with Jones and Jones is right and Sam is left and Joe “only talks to right wingers,” but Joe can be the bigger person here and if he doesn’t eventually, that will reflect on his rep).
Vasilijan Nikolovski probably true, but Joe could start to see Rubin a little differently, which could lead to a sea change in the way his audience sees Rubin
@Vasilijan Nikolovski Then Rogan is going to clip every single part where Sam Seder recogniced that some left wing people are idiots, and not the rest of the interview were Sam dismantles all of Joe's dumb right wing hysteria.
Just like he did with Pakman.
It's so, so telling Rogan will have these IDW-types on 4 or 5 times apiece and not invite Sam ONCE
Maybe he's intellectually intimidated for no reason. I bet if Joe watched Sam's war on Christmas video he'd be a fan.
@@hurkamur1 that is true, I think Joe would have him on. Has Sam ever politely floated a conversation on ideas with Roe Jogan? Where's that incredible mash-up video editor. Get blue-flame-eyes effects on this invitation challenge.
@@phaedrus4931
Other than people commenting on that Rogan won't have him on all the time?
It's actually not at all. He's had tons of cool kids on: Kyle Kulinski, Jimmy Dore, Cenk and Anna, Pakman, Tulsi, Yang, etc. The idea that he's dodging or that he's a gateway to Nazis is preposterous and that attitude just fuels the bad arguments of the right wingers. I really hope he does have Sam on because I like both but please stop equating JRE to FoxNews. You do your cause a disservice.
@steal threaded Kyle Kulinski has more subs than Seder. TJ Kirk has almost twice as many. Jimmy Dore has about the same. Tulsi's a goddamn presidential nominee.
Gtfo with your "he only has fringe leftists" bullshit 🙄🤣
“I was doing demographic comedy.” 😂😂😂
I laughed so hard.
Rip Michael
you don't say somebody is being treated like a wounded antelope without suggesting that they are, in fact, a wounded antelope.
Shaun Varga that doesn’t really..make sense? If you say someone is being treated like a piece of shit, are you saying they’re a piece of shit? You can’t use metaphor to express how someone else is treating someone without endorsing the metaphor? I’m not sure you’re thinking clearly there buddy..
@@tobymcinnis7031 It's not a metaphor. 'Treated like a wounded antelope' is a simile, a comparison. 'Treated like shit' is also a simile, but the phrase means 'treated badly'. If your example was 'if you are treated like a shit, then maybe you are a shit', it would be closer and indeed be a true statement in some circumstances.
The poster is saying that the guy made Dave look weak with the comparison, and I personally agree.
Silverfirefly1 Smartypants!
You guys are ALL wrong. Language is a game
@@50iraqidinar Looking forward to the detailed explanation there, save us from our ignorance.
I know Joe thinks he is defending Dave but everytime he says something about him I realize he is more pathetic than I thought lol
JB JG Yea , but I don’t think Rogan himself is a bad dude
It's always from a place of pity so it just makes it seem like he knows the guy ain't too bright.
Joe is basically doing a 2019 version of "Leave Britney alone" and it's god damn hilarious.
@@OfficialSeth Perfect analogy 👍
He was a wounded Antelope before Sam said anything.
I think Joe Rogan has done more dunking on Rubin than Sam at this point..
Bablo Biggins :it was 💯more effective …!!
Michael Brooks reusing the Rubin quote about "high level ideas" is like Joe Budden with the gunshot sounds 😂😂😂
3:36 The most prominent right-wing pundits on social-media( including the very classical liberal Dave Rubin)
use that type of framing. ''leftists gets schooled'', '' leftists gets destroyed'', ''liberal tears'', ''Trump derangement syndrome'' etc...
People like Dave Rubin created a brand as the ''alternative media'' in opposition to the ''Media'' that relies on sensationalism, mistruths, identity politics and political agenda. People like dave rubin go to college campuses to ''school'' teenagers about how much they're snowflakes and ''owns'' them for views. Dave Rubin is the '' battle of ideas''-man himself, the free-speech absolutist. Then how come you hardly see any progressive on his show? How come whenever he invites someone who claims to be on the right or critical of the left, he almost never pushes back( like closeted NAZI Stephan Molyneux for example). Dave Rubin is no ''wounded antelope'', he's a business man. He knows that dunking on the ''sjw'' left makes money.
Dave Rubin is writing a book about his "high level ideas." Yeah can't say that with a straight face.
Anyone who criticizes his book will not be invited to the show.
Q: What level are Dave's ideas?
A: Over 9000
Does it come with the crayons or do I have to buy them separately?
His husband probably ghost writes it.
@@tumppuman probably? dave can't even write a coherent tweet
Dunking on 'Uncle' Dave Rubin should be the national sport
Or a prerequisite to graduate high school :-)
John MG I bet you're a member of Antifa.
Idea level=HIGH
Brain contents=So many.
Recovery Mode commence.
Much wow
SO MANY HIGH LEVEL IMPORTANT IDEAS
Baily Brittany McDaniel pardon me but I need to recover my mind
I love how Michael has seen and heard the Rubin insert so many times, and he still cracks up every time. It makes the clip even funnier for me.
Too many high-level ideas.
“He could be a very complicated guy.”
Hahahahaha.
Lol Same. Come on Sam... Be more open about how you really feel. We all know you couldn't possibly think he's complicated. At least not complicated compared to... The mind of a potato lol.
As someone who used to listen to Joe Rogan’s podcast regularly, thank you. Seriously. I really appreciate you covering these people Joe doesn’t call out for things they really need to be challenged on. I am so grateful I found your channel and have binge watched videos you’ve done on others from the IDW. It woke me up from some really damaging and embarrassingly dumb ideas and beliefs.
Tbf although Joe often platforms these guys and seems to be at least friendly, if not friends with most of them; he does often challenge their wacky statements.
hurkamur1 That is true, and his openness and willingness to discuss ideas often completely demolished by others is refreshing and appealing at times. Still though, a lot of things get brushed past either because Joe doesn’t wanna be confrontational or he just doesn’t know enough about the subject to push back. I still like Joe, it’s just frustrating listening to some people get away with saying or doing awful shit, especially if they are repeats and he’s clearly friends with them. Like come the fuck on at some point you gotta stop defending the undefendable.
@@English3Muffin Well that's the thing, he seems to at least superficially offer some sort of comfort and casual conversation to all of his guests. He lets guests speak for themselves, but ultimately constantly boosts bad "ideas" and (with his pals) only challenges the outrageously stupid comments.
Dr Downtime Yep, I know what his show is, I did in fact watch it regularly for quite awhile. I don’t anymore for a reason.
Dr Downtime Don’t get me wrong, I do like Joe and I respect his approach in many ways, but I don’t like that he brings people on without fully researching what they’ve done or what they say, not enough to be able to challenge them except for the very obvious bullshit. I prefer people who do more research of their guests as opposed to giving them the benefit of the doubt when they don’t deserve it.
Full support. MR is doing a great service, exposing Rubin's shilling.
If Dave Rubin or anyone in the IDW or TP USA, or JRE, can’t handle robust criticism in the intrinsic flaws in their arguments; don’t start b*tching and moaning later when Rubin, Shapiro, Kirk, Petterson, Harris, or Crowder get dragged around with accurate assessments of the open intellectual culture.
~in Dave Rubin’s defense, he is capable of being both blinded and confused without any assistance.
The right should come with a warning label.
Fragile: handle with care
It's evident that the increasingly intense criticism and attacks on the IDW charlatans are stinging them. This is all the more reason to keep it up.
The way idw guys take themselves sooooo seriously though....CRIIIIINGE
Can we officially use the "Anti" prefix with these guys now?
Dr Downtime holy shit case in point right here. Cringe.
@Dr Downtime I'm pretty sure most people don't themselves or their jobs nearly as seriously as these chucklefucks. Try again bootlicker.
The reason why you think the IDW takes themselves SO seriously is because fewer and fewer media personalities AREN'T serious...so they stand out.
Omfg I know, they’re like a bunch of middle schoolers that think they’re experts on politics because they know who Obama and McCain are
They aren't the Intellectual Darkweb, no. They're Intellectual Lightweights.
James Dagnan You look like you have 20 brain cells
@@greastestever5549 Are you saying I have 19 more brain cells than Trump, anonymous internet guy with no face or name? GG
@@greastestever5549
It's alot more than you have buddy.
“He works for Turning Points USA.”
The same organization that takes money from Geo Group, which helped establish the ICE concentration camps.
The worst, but somehow not most annoying part about TP USA.
Hey do you have any links about Turning Point USA and ICE?
All Dave wanted to do was monetize fascism, and you're being a total buzzkill.
Sam doesn’t need to do anything to be cute 🥰
Sam is a cutie.
Dudley Doleft right?! I’ve had a crush for a while now. I’m here mostly for the politics though...mostly.
Yeah he is . like.... dad cute, haha
eartianfizz yeah, dad of my children cute.
Pause it
Our interpretation of Dave Rubin is the worst possible because it's accurate.
Yes, entirely possible, actual, and accurate.
Just call it, Dave is afraid of getting owned by an actual intellectual.
Who's the actual intellectual?
@@TheBanderson22 sam most likely
RIP MICHAEL BROOKS
I really miss Michael Brooks’ ad libs like at 8:11
"I'm not large enough yet"
Oh shit, this isn't even his final form. Only 20,000 more cheeseburgers until he can evolve.
Joe Rogan lefty card just got revoked! So crazy how quickly joe Rogan defends his right wing babys
Steven Gonzalez What lefty card?
I notice that about Joe. Once he gets to know someone personally, have dinner with them, and consider them his friend, he gets really biased. It's really obvious that most of the time, when Dave Rubin gets roasted, it's his own fault. Saying really stupid things or obviously lying. Even Joe caught Dave doing this a couple of times on his own podcast on air. It's like he's willfully ignoring this fact...
I'm not sure that even Joe knows exactly where he stands. Like many individuals, he's in the middle of a epic anti-SJW temper tantrum and is currently a little too worked up to really take stock of who he is and what he believes
Rhys Peregrine Maybe he got caught up in the anti-SJW fever a little too late in life? Whatever his issue is, he should get over it soon. Being an enabler for the likes of Rubin and Crowder doesn’t look good for anyone.
Roagn is still stuck in his MRA phase.
God damn it. These Dave Rubin videos are HILARIOUS.
Again. I honestly can't tell if Rogan is just misinformed, or is actually disingenuous, and trying to play to a certain side. But just in how he talks about Rubin, it feels like he's either very biased, or extremely naïve. And the defense that Rubin is "just BS-ing," is absurd. But really missing the point, too, imo. It's not just that Rubin is talking out of his ass. It's that he's lying about very specific things, in very specific ways. When Joe leaves that part out, I really wonder why. Does he really not understand how important that is? Or is he just trying to help Rubin? And why is Rogan trying to help Rubin anyway? Did I miss something?
"Please don't be mean to my blow-buddy. He's special."
-Joe Rogan, 2019
Eric Weinstein is the founder/coined the term idw, that's why he's so defensive. I think he sees them as a team of super hero's
Haha. So true. Weinstein saying " sophisticated individuals are trying to either boost or alter our signal" cracked me up, such obnoxious arrogant drivvle
My impression is that the idw was a memetic experiment. If you watch the episode you'll notice that Weinstein says he enjoys fucking with people. The fact that human perception is so malleable that one can get twitter mobs to treat a list of random names as some sort of collective without providing adequate justification is fascinating. Weinstein is playing some kind of power game, I doubt he gives a shit about Rubin.
@@hilbertsinn6886 Ok what if replace "the idw was a memetic experiment" with "weinstein saw an easy opportunity to further a personal agenda by introducing a nonsense term that would clearly gain traction." These seem the same to me though.
@@Israel2.3.2 I have no objection to your content, I'm just so damn sick of that word. Nothing to do with you, really.
Bari Weiss coined the term IDW
Reading and preparing before talking about the issues of the day? What a nerd, Sam.
All you have to do is scream vaguely smart sounding I D E A S in the face of college students (ala Shapiro).
😆
joe has to know dave is a snakeoil salesman wtf is wrong with joe
Joe sales brain pills. Birds of a feather.
$$$$$$
Brain pills are a fraud. Do headstands if you can. It's free.
Joe is all about giving platforms to anyone, including grifters, with some plausible deniability. That's his game. He knows exactly what he is doing.
Joe Rogan is gullible as hell, he doesn't have to know shit lol
“I don’t care about Dave Rubin: the person.”
I don’t care about Dave Rubin. Period.
Sam Seder is the best. I feel like I learned so much in a very entertaining way.
Please Sound Drop when Weinstein says,
“Eat Dave Rubin, Blind him, or Confuse him”
It’s literally the most absurd accusation I heard anyone say about someone like Sam Seder or Michael Brooks, who actually knock some sense into Rubin’s constant quasi-politics nonsense.
Those are lines I get as strategic support in video games before a boss fight.
Majority Report always on point! Sam Seder/Michael Brooks 2020!! lol
Libertarian ticket!!!
Michael Roberts*
Joe should have Sam on, he's already had Kyle and David
Sam and Michael would be amazing on his show.
spongebob5319 Scam Harris won’t let him.
Sad how many people jumped to Crowder's defense when he attacked Carlos Maza personally, but when Sam criticizes Rubin's intelligence he's the biggest bully ever.
So, you ok with both doing it then or are you a hypocrite as well? And Sam and company use personal insults at Dave all the time.
I hear Jonathan Haidt is writing a new book..."The Coddling of Dave Rubin's Mind".
I think you should immediately do another Dave Rubin story.
Sam, Dave invites Ben Shapiro on x3 (at least) and Ben has told him to his face he wouldn’t even attend his gay marriage *AFTER PARTY* because it’s too icky FFS 😆 Same with Prager. I can’t invite someone on her title of a video of me as “stupid“ but I will try to be BFFs with people who think I will burn in hell for my sexual orientation. 🤦🏻♂️
They must be paying him well.
Michael’s laugh kills me every time 😂😂😂
Rogan’s advocating a type of good ol boys club. Kicking back, smoking cigars with like minded TH-cam sensations in the sanctity of a little smoke filled studio somewhere.
Ill be honest. I quite like to see you dunking on Dave Rubin
Sam is a russian actor 😂
The discourse on the Joe Rogan airwaves are the greatest ..
San Miguel TV
I smell sarcasm
San Miguel TV
In that we can look into the dark side of America ..
San Miguel TV
Yuh
Jar Jar Banks
Exactly
San Miguel TV The greatest what?
I think you're cute, Sam. Keep it up.
Rest In Peace Michael. We all miss you
The IDW are the equivalent of those edgy teens who suffer from affluenza
The fact that Weinstein defends Rubin this much is unfortunate
Agreed I actually enjoy listening to him talk about most things
I was actually flabbergasted that Eric spoke this way about Sam Seder I didn’t know he was such a sheep
Makes sense, they receive funding and invitations to speak at the same places. Also hitching your wagon to the intellectual dark web gets you a New York Times article and an invitation to Bill Maher n many main stream news networks. You dont really see people on the left getting this treatment.
@@playerjoe I was also like ' whaaaaa?' when he said he disliked 'dunking' and ' dragging' when things like ' x annihilates feminist / leftist/ college kid ' is pretty much how the IDW even got where it is.
Interesting so many people are surprised. Weinstein’s been one of the primary Rubin white knight for a long time now.
He stands with Crowder but snowflakes for Dave
I watched the Weinstein thing and was saying to myself does this bloke not know that because he's voicing opinion in public he's open to be criticized it's very weird the way he thinks it's an attack on the ultimate truth of the bubble he lives in anyway I enjoyed this bit it's very soap opera
The white man has been the most persecuted group in the history of mankind.
@@tactical_philanthropy i dunno about that you checked the Inuits brah
Weinstein knows, I promise you. He's exactly as authentic as his toupee.
Dave Rubin's existence bores me, but Rogan essentially accusing Sam of being a bully is amusing.
14:01 - Sam at his best - "THE IDEA THAT this message is going to go UNCONTESTED- SORRY! Not going to do it"
Dave=Trying to win at grifting. He LOST! About time. More exposure please
Finally someone said it!!! Its HIS IGNORANCE. Ty Sam! Truly. I’ve been a fan since Air American and now I know why.
(Pim Tool kicking the dirt and whining) "I wish I was in the IDW picture." 😥
Hey now pimmy... You got the incel picture going for ya lolz. Isn't that enough?
So basically their defense of D. Lubricant is “you guys put too much effort in criticizing him, let some stuff slide. “ ???? What????
"Don't be Ableist"
🤣🤣🤣
Sam needs to get on the Rogan show STAT!
@@terryben8352 figures...time to give Rogan shit about this then :D
That drop was “cute” 😂. U guys are the best ❤️
Weinstein, Rubin and Rogan? I got a nosebleed and had to lie down from overdosing on ideas.
@Brainjock You don't understand context at all. And don't reply to me asking for an explanation, because I already know you necessarily lack the intelligence to understand my answer.
Hilbert's Inn yeah and it’s a picture of Al Jolson who used blackface to highlight the plight of black artists banned from southern venues.
Brainjock lax bro
Brainjock STFU
You should watch the series that Timbah On Toast did on Rubin. It's long but worth every minute and can strengthen your argument about why it's important to criticize him.
They've already mentioned it and even showed clips of them on the show when talking Dubin
But it is Cute, Sam, because everything you do is cute. You can’t stop being cute, even when you’re pissy.
Sam should do even more videos on Dave Rubin
IDW is an oxymoron. 🤷🏻♂️
It's not intellectual and it's not dark.
Jeremy Heimlich How is it an oxymoron? ‘Smart Leftist’ This is an oxymoron.
Dave Rubin being saved (emasculated) by Joe Rogan priceless. 😂😂😂How many Dave Rubin’s does it take to change a light bulb
No Idea
It's interesting to see how this video has aged based on the relationship that Joe Rogan's show now has with Rubin lol
Dave should have just stuck to be being an interviewer. It all went wrong when he thought he had opinions of his own that were valuable.
The part about a "disturbed feed-back loop" is dead on. The criticism is the feedback genius! The "free market of ideas" is IDW's whole cornerstone, yet they want to hide in a bubble from valid criticism.
Dubin is worse than a wounded antelope
When did Joe Rogan get the Texas Chainsaw Massacre on the podcast? BOOM! Roasted.
We will never see Michael laugh at Rubin ever again ...
This video is hands down amazing. The ending soundclip just nailed it... yet again. Thanks Sam, Michael & co.
So when you going on the joe “stop picking on dave rubin” rogan show ?
Retrograde Beats never because nobody outside his friends likes him
If Joe keeps bringing Sam up on his show, I hope he'll have the decency to have Sam on his show.
More like "the balls" to have him on his show. At this point it's just cowardice not to have him on.
He didn’t bring Sam up on his show. The other guy did. I guess you two didn’t watch
I've taken the day off to recover from all the high level ideas in this video
"i do research, i read up on their work" sam
"dont be ableist " mike
LMAO now thats what i call a dunk
The Rogan fan boys are getting salty!
This is Sam at his best!
It really is
I really, really, really hope we see a Sam-Rogan podcast or a Sam-Rubin debate the former WAY more likely than the latter 😂
It's scheduled in 2 weeks from never.
God damn at all these high level ideas!! Good work, guys.
Priceless moment at the end with Micheal & Sam off the Dave rubin sound drop
IN DEFENCE OF DAVE RUBIN (hear me out):
I think that taking the good and the bad, Dave Rubin is a positive gain to the world, not because he is particularly brilliant, or because he has complex views, but because of the role he plays with young right-leaning people. It is true that he is a "one-trick pony", but his trick--"Talk to people who disagree with you and try to find an opinion with which you actually agree"--is needed.
It's like Jazz.
If you want to get someone into Jazz, you can't give them a copy of Tim Berne's Science Friction, because they would just get nauseous and forget about the whole "jazz thing" forever. Instead, you start with Louis Armstrong and work your way up.
Now, imagine all of those millions of teenagers, born and raised into conservative homes and communities. Suddenly they hit 18 years of age and start to wonder if there's more to life than games and partying. "Maybe I should take a look at this 'politics thing' people can't seem to stop talking about". They are NOT going to start their journey by listening to Sam, or anyone from the left. I know you wish they would, but they won't. So, I mild, soft "righty" like Dave, who also has some traditionally left opinions, like gay marriage, pro-choice, and the like, is a good starting point.
Being open to talking to people on the other side, and being respectful, is IMO what this world needs.
@@taranullius9221 Well, if it "is well stablished at this point" then I guess I'm wrong. Damn! I thought I had something there.