@@noelperez6626 it depends on your monitors refresh rate; if its 144hz or below id use g-sync on with a frame cap 3-4 frames below the max hertz. if its 240 hertz and above I would stick to fixed refresh and have g-snyc off. make sure to do all of this within the nvidia control panel of the game rather then the in game settings
glad i found this video. i tried gsync On + vsync ON + low latency mode Ultra, the result in Valorant is good. Game feels smooth, no screen tearing, and the input deday is unnoticed. FPS auto caps at 225. BUT, only if my PC hardware can handle 240fps+ at alltime. My monitor is 240hz. PC specs i5 12400f, 16G RAM bus 3200, 1660 super.
If you want the lowest input lag, you go uncapped with gsync and vsync off. LLM on is fine but will be disabled with reflex on (reflex should be on). Gsync+vsync versus uncapped no sync can range from 10-20ms difference in input latency. Even if the game feels smoother, there is less accuracy to your mouse movements.
Discovered this even in Episode 7 of val, and man. The smoothness of no screen tearing is WELL worth it. It is INSANE! Hit immortal due to how smooth the game felt. This is no joke.
as someone who played old cs i never wanted to touch thes setting today i came across this to try it it reduced my latency by 2 ms and is smooth as butter. thank you for this info
You are a real life saver almost factory reset my pc after getting a new monitor because the screen tearing was so bad! At first I used v sync in game and it was so bad the game to render was horrible. After trying this solution is seem to fix my problem. Thanks so much.!
i tested it out as per your instructions on my monitor ( LG 27GL850 ) and i can see the difference in screen motion, its smoother and it feels better i.m.o, b4 i used to experience some jagged images when moving about.
If im getting around 200 fps in Valorant and I have a 144hz gsync compatible monitor, is it better to run gsync+vsync+reflex or everything off+uncapped. Is there any noticeable delay even when I use gsync+vsynnc+reflex with the frames im getting compared to when running everything off+uncapped?
Question in regards to graphic settings and latency. Just followed your advice on G-sync and it's been working great. For graphics, should i be doing all low, AA off and filter to 1x or is it okay to just run all high settings? i notice a lost of 1-2ms in regards to game latency.
@@hi1234258 You can increase your graphics as high as you want. You can also put Anisotropic Filter as high as you want. That's the nice thing about GSYNC, because you're running an fps cap, you can max out your settings because the FPS hit does not matter. Sometimes though, these settings can lead to increased latency. Best thing to do is turn on your latency stats, and just increase things 1 at a time. I have a new video coming out soon, I've been collecting a ton of data so it'll cover alot of things.
G-snyc with frame cap vs fixed refresh uncapped has like a night and day difference. I use this with all my games because it just feels wayy too good. Hate that people keep saying its bad when its most definitely not. Awesome video!
@@gorkemalbayrak6408 make sure to NOT have vsync enabled in game, only in nvidia control panel, and be sure to have a frame rate cap at a minimum of 3 frames below your refresh rate. He explains all this in the video btw :)
@@mellowistaken yes it was really helpfull thank you. Im looking for a new monitor so I just wanted to make sure if I got it right because my English not very good. Thats why asked you. Thanks for your comment.
With the new NVidia control panel updates, under Vsynch you get two options of "on" and "fast" would you recommend having on "on" or "fast" Thanks in advance!
so i have a 165Hz monitor, which do u think is best i use? for games like csgo/val/apex which one is best for low input delay, low frame time and basically best for competitive games? uncapped let it run abt 180-400fps (very unstable) or G sync on, v sync off, 163fps cap or gync on, vsync on, 163fps cap
i have a 240hz monitor and my fps is from 150-300. Will this helps my game performance or is this only for when theres too much fps like your? Please help ty
Ive an internal display of 144hz with 45ntsc, im wondering what my optimal settings should be? I do occasionally experience some ghosting on my loq(15aph8)
These days there was this issue with Packet Data rate where you needed to cap frames to 128 to get constant 128 tick rate . Also some users me included if they don't cap the fps they get network problem indicator. Fps goes down to 100 times. So can I cap at 128 the fps even thou it goes lower sometimes and Gsync-ON + on+boost + Vsync-Off
I am playing with a g sync monitor, v-sync off, uncapped fps and i have screen tearing, what should I do? I tried capping fps to 144 (my monitor's hz), to 143 and i still have screen tearing, is it normal?
Turn G-Sync ON with the fps cap and you won't get tearing. Also lower the cap a little more than 143. Need to give more room if your monitor's refresh rate is 144.
Hi @ShakkN great video but i havent undrstand what to do with my mointor i have the qv2 390hz and i got around 500-450 fps on comp game should i go for v sync and gsync or one of them
@@GMoneyy3000 if i have 165hz , and my fps is between 200-220, should i use all of that? Cap my fps in the game to 165 or not? Turn on g-sync?Turn on v-sync? Low input delay on or off in nvidia? Ty!
@@petriuchio if you don’t care about screen tearing, then run uncapped FPS with gsync/vsync off. If you want the smoothest possible image, cap fps to 162 with gsync+vsync ON in the nvidia control panel.
@@GMoneyy3000 pls help me I have 240hz monitor Freesync I use nvidia card -> should i enable freesync to use gsync compability and what are the other settings ? pls help me really appreaciate tks u
old video but saw this question and since im in the same situation i wanted to know also so i have a 165Hz monitor, which do u think is best i use? for games like csgo/val/apex which one is best for low input delay, low frame time and basically best for competitive games? uncapped let it run abt 180-400fps (very unstable) or G sync on, v sync off, 163fps cap or gync on, vsync on, 163fps cap
Late reply but in case you haven't figured out a good solution or have other questions... It depends. Do you want the game to look smoother or be more responsive? You can't have it both ways unfortunately. Gsync on and vsync on (vsync needs to be on for gsync to work above 165fps). You can get 10-20ms less input latency if you don't use gsync+vsync. Which for me, is very noticeable. If you want the lowest possible input latency: Turn Nvidia reflex on in valorant settings. Uncap the fps. Turn off gsync and vsync. And call it a day. You mentioned frametimes but honestly, if you aren't getting stuttering, do not worry about them. The only time limiting frametimes works for latency is if you're having huge frametime spikes. And if thats the case, in NVDA control panel, limit the fps to a number that gives stable and low frametimes. That way, you get the benefit of stable latency as well as low latency (although using RTSS or NVCP to limit fps will generally raise average latency in exchange for stable frametimes) If you are letting the game run uncapped at 400fps, try limiting it to 250 or 300 and see if that makes it more stable. Valorant is a pretty good game when it comes to latency so even if you run vsync on (NVCP), you shouldn't have HUGE increases in latency like in other games. The other thing that is important if you are getting instability is using NVDA reflex. It stops the pre-rendered frame buffer queue from piling up and creating unstable input lag that spikes.
Great video, I had some questions. So I run at 180-210 frames, I have a 144 hz monitor, which of these options should I do?: 1. G sync on, Vsync on, Reflex on + boost to cap FPS 2. G sync on, v sync on, reflex boost on + boost 3. No gsync, no vsync, reflex still on+boost (since I think it reduces input lag)
I have a question. I turn on a Vsync and my fps cap in 240 for my monitor hz but my game render has increase a lot which, increase from 3.9ms to 11ms so,I confuse why your game to render still the same.
I have asus monitor, but I can't turn on G-sync and ELMB at the same time. What do you think I should do if I want play valorant? turn on ELMB or G-sync?
240hz monitor. So: GSync Enabled VSync on NVCP On Low Latency Mode on NVCP Off Nvidia Reflex ingame Enabled + Boost I have a 237fps cap on NVCP too Is that right?
Correction i tried all possible combos at 360 hz with 600fps plus. For me GSNYNC ON VSYNC OFF, is the smoothest and most responsive by far for valorant at those specs!
"With G-SYNC monitors, a lot of peole run ULMB (and fixed refresh rate) which are terrible, you shouldn't run either of those." What? I was under the impression that when buying a high refresh rate monitor, one of the main selling points is the monitor's Black Frame Insertion (ULMB) quality. You can see for yourself on Blur Busters how much it improves the clarity of high velocity motion. Unless I'm missing something here?
It depends. Do you want the game to look smoother or be more responsive? You can't have it both ways unfortunately. Gsync on and vsync on (vsync needs to be on for gsync to work above 165fps). You can get 10-20ms less input latency if you don't use gsync+vsync. Which for me, is very noticeable. If you want the lowest possible input latency: Turn Nvidia reflex on in valorant settings. Uncap the fps. Turn off gsync and vsync. And call it a day.
Enable GSYNC + VSYNC in the nvidia control panel, and enable reflex in game for games that have it enabled. If a game doesn't have reflex, use the in game limiter, if there is no in game limiter, use RTSS
Weird shit. I am getting tearing all over the place sometimes, when running G-Sync. No other game is causing that issue. Any suggestions? Edit: I turned on V-Sync in the nvidia control panel, but my fps won't get higher than 225, even though my in game fps cap is set to 235. What does that mean? Is 225 the highest fps for G-Sync to work in that game?
Vsync locks your fps to your refresh rate, I'm assuming yours is 240? If you have Low latency mode ultra OR nvidia reflex ON, then the game will automatically limit fps below your refresh rate. The only way to change the actual FPS it limits it to is to limit it lower or turn off vsync then limit the fps. The other option is turn on reflex. Limit fps to 235 IN GAME (you might wanna go lower), turn off vsync and gsync. This should provide similar latency as if you were using gsync+vsync but with a higher frame limit along with the benefits of reflex.
Heyho, I play Valorant where it’s often about latency who kills who. I have a 165hz monitor with Freesync so it's G-Sync compatible. Now my question is whether it is worth activating Freesync or not, because my PC often get around 100-130 Fps.
i have 240 hz monitor ryzen 3600, gtx 1080 and 16gb ram. I got 200-300 fps. G sync and v sync on capped my fps 240 and my latency is 7-10 is it normal ?
Hey bro,if I have monitor 240hz gsync,and I play fortnite. I need put gsync on Nvidia panel vsync on Nvida triple buffer on In fortnite vsync off In fortnite nvidia reflex boost on In fortnite cap 237 fps In nvidia low latency off? I need put this settings for my best gsync?
Need some help... Running 1080 Ti with LG GN800-B (144Hz panel). I read many comments, watched your video, still not sure on what to do. Should I: • Cap FPS in-game at 141 with G-Sync on, nVidia V-Sync @ Fast vs. • No FPS limit, no G-Sync/V-Sync of any sort? Also, is 12ms game to render latency bad, and if so, would ~6ms be considered good?
@@ShakkN My monitor is labeled as "Gsync Compatible" and in the monitor settings I turn on "Adaptive Sync". I have an Nvidia graphics card and it displays that my Gsync is enabled if I turn on the indicator in Nvidia control panel.
@@ShakkN he has a freesync monitor like me i have the same thing but you can use gsync on it he's asking it applies to a freesync monitor which can be used as a gsync compatible
I noticed a difference from gsync off uncapped getting 800fps in valorant on a 270hz monitor compared to gsync on vsync off capped at 255hz the smoothness is heaven and also noticeable in fortnite at max settings also failed to mention my montior is 1440p
A bit late but i play Valorant with a 280hz monitor + GTX1080 and i usually try to aim for lowest input lag. The problem is i dont really get 280hz on Valorant so im wondering if i should do GSYNC/VSYNC/Reflex ON (FPS Capped around 220) or GSYNC on VSYNC off Reflex ON no fps cap?
I have blocked fps by graphic card and i dont want to enable vsync but if i dont enable it the screen looks like 30 fps even that i am getting 60 by my choice on graphic card, i dont want to use vsync cuz it makes the ms latency highter than when it is off so its very annoying, i have connected my pc with hdmi on my monitor
Hello please help, Im really confused right now. I have a 165hz monitor with free sync. Most of the time 80-85% I get higher fps than 165. Should I turn on my monitor freesync? Should I turn on my computers g sync? Please help
You should enable Gsync. It is recommended to cap your framerate to 3 frames less than the refresh rate of your monitor, which would be 162 FPS in your case. Now, in my own experience, in game framerate limiters is the way to go, as Nvidias control panel limiter and RTSS produce input delay. In that case, if the in game limiter doesnt allow you to set a fixed value, go for one that is below your monitors refresh rate. Example I have a 144hz display, and I use the 120fps limiter in most games.
Also when I have no frame limit but Nvidia Reflex to ON + Boost my FPS in game displays as going higher than my refresh rate, does this mean the reflex limiter is not working or is this supposed to happen?
The reflex limiter will only work if you are running Vsync in the NVIDIA Panel. If you don't have Vsync on in the NVIDIA panel your frames will be uncapped.
@@ShakkN hey, can i ask something, if i can run valorant on 200fps and i have 144hz monitor, should i use v sync and cap my fps to 142, or should i turn off v sync and uncapped my fps?, + should i use free sync? Thanks
Vsync of for me in Val, i cant see a tearing more than once a week with it set to OFF. its nice to play with 900 fps too. However if u get tearing on your screen, use v sync, if not its much more corect to set it off not fuckling my sensor feel for me togheter with my mice aiming. It has been more and more normal for last the year on games that its no need for vsync , before the vsync was a must all had tearing- notso much now. maybe your screen has somthing to say? my scrren is hi end and and fast.
From what I’ve learned from a different video is you should run both but cap your FPS 5 FPS below your monitor refresh rate. So if you have a 144hz monitor you should cap your FPS at 138 so that Vsync never kicks in. And the reason you want vsync while also using gsync is because even if you cap your FPS at 138 without vsync you’ll still get screen tearing. So you get rid of screen tearing without having input delay. Hope that helps!
Wait, why should I enable V-SYNC with G-SYNC again? And why am I still seeing tearing with G-SYNC enabled and V-SYNC disabled? Isn’t G-SYNC suppose to fix that? (LAST UPDATED: 05/02/2019) The answer is frametime variances. “Frametime” denotes how long a single frame takes to render. “Framerate” is the totaled average of each frame’s render time within a one second period. At 144Hz, a single frame takes 6.9ms to display (the number of which depends on the max refresh rate of the display, see here), so if the framerate is 144 per second, then the average frametime of 144 FPS is 6.9ms per frame. In reality, however, frametime from frame to frame varies, so just because an average framerate of 144 per second has an average frametime of 6.9ms per frame, doesn’t mean all 144 of those frames in each second amount to an exact 6.9ms per; one frame could render in 10ms, the next could render in 6ms, but at the end of each second, enough will hit the 6.9ms render target to average 144 FPS per. So what happens when just one of those 144 frames renders in, say, 6.8ms (146 FPS average) instead of 6.9ms (144 FPS average) at 144Hz? The affected frame becomes ready too early, and begins to scan itself into the current “scanout” cycle (the process that physically draws each frame, pixel by pixel, left to right, top to bottom on-screen) before the previous frame has a chance to fully display (a.k.a. tearing). G-SYNC + V-SYNC “Off” allows these instances to occur, even within the G-SYNC range, whereas G-SYNC + V-SYNC “On” (what I call “frametime compensation” in this article) allows the module (with average framerates within the G-SYNC range) to time delivery of the affected frames to the start of the next scanout cycle, which lets the previous frame finish in the existing cycle, and thus prevents tearing in all instances. And since G-SYNC + V-SYNC “On” only holds onto the affected frames for whatever time it takes the previous frame to complete its display, virtually no input lag is added; the only input lag advantage G-SYNC + V-SYNC “Off” has over G-SYNC + V-SYNC “On” is literally the tearing seen, nothing more
@@kulfi9705 thanks for the answer! I got a good deal for a Alienware AW2521HFLA, 24" - 240hz with vsync and FreeSync. I use it as the main monitor for work as well as gaming on my laptop. No issues at all :D
@@Just1kOoL yeah, you won't have issues but I personally believe that it would be much better if you had invested in a less pricey option. I have the older version of the monitor you bought and it is FANTASTIC. The thing is, no matter how high the hz, the monitor can only display that amount of hz say 240 if you're getting 240 frames consistently
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It's not even just less screen tearing, the game feels sooo much smoother with these settings enabled
it feels moother with g sync on or off?
@@noelperez6626 it depends on your monitors refresh rate; if its 144hz or below id use g-sync on with a frame cap 3-4 frames below the max hertz. if its 240 hertz and above I would stick to fixed refresh and have g-snyc off. make sure to do all of this within the nvidia control panel of the game rather then the in game settings
@@mellowistaken oh okay thanks bro beacuse I have 360hz monitor and idk if I turned it on or just keep in fixed refresh rate
@@mellowistaken did u even watch the video, wat Ur saying goes against everything he said in the vid
how does yur comment make anysense because u have worse monitor you should run gsync lmao?@@mellowistaken
Thanks bro, i just got a GSYNC 240HZ monitor and ive been on the fence about what settings to use, These exact settings are smooth af for me thanks
glad i found this video. i tried gsync On + vsync ON + low latency mode Ultra, the result in Valorant is good. Game feels smooth, no screen tearing, and the input deday is unnoticed. FPS auto caps at 225. BUT, only if my PC hardware can handle 240fps+ at alltime. My monitor is 240hz. PC specs i5 12400f, 16G RAM bus 3200, 1660 super.
If you want the lowest input lag, you go uncapped with gsync and vsync off. LLM on is fine but will be disabled with reflex on (reflex should be on). Gsync+vsync versus uncapped no sync can range from 10-20ms difference in input latency. Even if the game feels smoother, there is less accuracy to your mouse movements.
Thx, i have 240hz monitor, and im running it with G Sync and V Sync, fps are limited auto to 225, its soooo smove and its way more fun to play
But that must be wrong that its capped to 225 it must be 237 // 240HZ - 3HZ nothing more
@@DeilmosFN gsync+vsync+low latency on caps your fps to 225 automatically
Discovered this even in Episode 7 of val, and man. The smoothness of no screen tearing is WELL worth it. It is INSANE! Hit immortal due to how smooth the game felt. This is no joke.
what rank were you before ? thinking of turning it on myself
144hz ?
I don't understand exactly, I'm sorry, my English is not very good, should we turn on gsync and vsync briefly?
as someone who played old cs i never wanted to touch thes setting today i came across this to try it it reduced my latency by 2 ms and is smooth as butter. thank you for this info
Thank you for bringing this to us. Not this old man saying that GSYNC IS BAD AND THATS ALL. We need to test it out by ourselves.
You are a real life saver almost factory reset my pc after getting a new monitor because the screen tearing was so bad! At first I used v sync in game and it was so bad the game to render was horrible. After trying this solution is seem to fix my problem. Thanks so much.!
i tested it out as per your instructions on my monitor ( LG 27GL850 ) and i can see the difference in screen motion, its smoother and it feels better i.m.o, b4 i used to experience some jagged images when moving about.
Also reduces input lag, for Valorant especially
Thanks a lot man you're amazing for making this video!
yes this is highly recommended....(personal experience and captain blurbusters)
I use gsync on , vsync on for all my games except val/cs on 165hz.
Honestly so good with frames.
Answered my question exactly! Thanks
Thanks for the video ima try this out in my next session to see how it feels :)
the input lag from vsync is incredibly noticeable at any framerate for me. Freesync/gsync not so much.
V sync doesn't work the same as gsync or freesynx
They need to be run with each other, individually vsync by itself is terrible
If im getting around 200 fps in Valorant and I have a 144hz gsync compatible monitor, is it better to run gsync+vsync+reflex or everything off+uncapped. Is there any noticeable delay even when I use gsync+vsynnc+reflex with the frames im getting compared to when running everything off+uncapped?
he said it's better to run gsync on v sync off and fps uncapped with reflex on+boost for 144hz monitors
So I have a 165hz monitor and I get around 240-300fps. Should I use Gsync Vsync on and turn off lowlatencymode and keep on+boost in valorant?
Question in regards to graphic settings and latency. Just followed your advice on G-sync and it's been working great. For graphics, should i be doing all low, AA off and filter to 1x or is it okay to just run all high settings? i notice a lost of 1-2ms in regards to game latency.
Also, just wanted to add any issues using Nvidia Image Sharpening? Currently getting 3-5ms game latency with settings all high and sharpening on
@@hi1234258 You can increase your graphics as high as you want. You can also put Anisotropic Filter as high as you want. That's the nice thing about GSYNC, because you're running an fps cap, you can max out your settings because the FPS hit does not matter. Sometimes though, these settings can lead to increased latency. Best thing to do is turn on your latency stats, and just increase things 1 at a time. I have a new video coming out soon, I've been collecting a ton of data so it'll cover alot of things.
G-snyc with frame cap vs fixed refresh uncapped has like a night and day difference. I use this with all my games because it just feels wayy too good. Hate that people keep saying its bad when its most definitely not. Awesome video!
So you play gsync vsync on ?
@@gorkemalbayrak6408 yes, gsync on with frame cap below my refresh rate, and vsync on in control panel
Okey thanks.
@@gorkemalbayrak6408 make sure to NOT have vsync enabled in game, only in nvidia control panel, and be sure to have a frame rate cap at a minimum of 3 frames below your refresh rate. He explains all this in the video btw :)
@@mellowistaken yes it was really helpfull thank you. Im looking for a new monitor so I just wanted to make sure if I got it right because my English not very good. Thats why asked you. Thanks for your comment.
I need to say, that it is better bro. I was not trusting it and it did actually work. I have like 0,5ms latency increased, but its way more smoother.
Do you have to turn v sync in nvidia control panel on for General settings, or program specific settings only?
Would appreciate an awnser alot!
You can turn it on in general settings if you want to run it for all your games
With the new NVidia control panel updates, under Vsynch you get two options of "on" and "fast" would you recommend having on "on" or "fast" Thanks in advance!
If you're using GSYNC you want to use ON
hey,i have question,do you enable vrr when using g-sync?
so i have a 165Hz monitor, which do u think is best i use?
for games like csgo/val/apex
which one is best for low input delay, low frame time and basically best for competitive games?
uncapped let it run abt 180-400fps (very unstable)
or
G sync on, v sync off, 163fps cap
or
gync on, vsync on, 163fps cap
i have a 240hz monitor and my fps is from 150-300. Will this helps my game performance or is this only for when theres too much fps like your? Please help ty
I didn't understand one thing: I need to have a 240hz monitor or just cap 240FPS to hit those input lag in the graphics?
Ive an internal display of 144hz with 45ntsc, im wondering what my optimal settings should be? I do occasionally experience some ghosting on my loq(15aph8)
These days there was this issue with Packet Data rate where you needed to cap frames to 128 to get constant 128 tick rate .
Also some users me included if they don't cap the fps they get network problem indicator.
Fps goes down to 100 times.
So can I cap at 128 the fps even thou it goes lower sometimes and Gsync-ON + on+boost + Vsync-Off
I have ping 60 .. good pc cab give 400 fps for gamd ..240 hz .. wht sittings u suggest for me. . nivida and game ..
I am playing with a g sync monitor, v-sync off, uncapped fps and i have screen tearing, what should I do? I tried capping fps to 144 (my monitor's hz), to 143 and i still have screen tearing, is it normal?
Turn G-Sync ON with the fps cap and you won't get tearing. Also lower the cap a little more than 143. Need to give more room if your monitor's refresh rate is 144.
Hi @ShakkN great video but i havent undrstand what to do with my mointor i have the qv2 390hz and i got around 500-450 fps on comp game should i go for v sync and gsync or one of them
390hz, uncapped fps, gsync/freesync/vsync OFF.
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You’re welcome
@@GMoneyy3000 if i have 165hz , and my fps is between 200-220, should i use all of that? Cap my fps in the game to 165 or not? Turn on g-sync?Turn on v-sync? Low input delay on or off in nvidia? Ty!
@@petriuchio if you don’t care about screen tearing, then run uncapped FPS with gsync/vsync off.
If you want the smoothest possible image, cap fps to 162 with gsync+vsync ON in the nvidia control panel.
@@GMoneyy3000 pls help me
I have 240hz monitor Freesync
I use nvidia card
-> should i enable freesync to use gsync compability and what are the other settings ? pls help me really appreaciate tks u
@@mocchip9368 what games do you play and how much fps do you get?
old video but saw this question and since im in the same situation i wanted to know also
so i have a 165Hz monitor, which do u think is best i use?
for games like csgo/val/apex
which one is best for low input delay, low frame time and basically best for competitive games?
uncapped let it run abt 180-400fps (very unstable)
or
G sync on, v sync off, 163fps cap
or
gync on, vsync on, 163fps cap
same situation, did you end up figuring it out?
Late reply but in case you haven't figured out a good solution or have other questions...
It depends. Do you want the game to look smoother or be more responsive? You can't have it both ways unfortunately.
Gsync on and vsync on (vsync needs to be on for gsync to work above 165fps). You can get 10-20ms less input latency if you don't use gsync+vsync. Which for me, is very noticeable.
If you want the lowest possible input latency: Turn Nvidia reflex on in valorant settings. Uncap the fps. Turn off gsync and vsync. And call it a day.
You mentioned frametimes but honestly, if you aren't getting stuttering, do not worry about them. The only time limiting frametimes works for latency is if you're having huge frametime spikes. And if thats the case, in NVDA control panel, limit the fps to a number that gives stable and low frametimes. That way, you get the benefit of stable latency as well as low latency (although using RTSS or NVCP to limit fps will generally raise average latency in exchange for stable frametimes)
If you are letting the game run uncapped at 400fps, try limiting it to 250 or 300 and see if that makes it more stable. Valorant is a pretty good game when it comes to latency so even if you run vsync on (NVCP), you shouldn't have HUGE increases in latency like in other games.
The other thing that is important if you are getting instability is using NVDA reflex. It stops the pre-rendered frame buffer queue from piling up and creating unstable input lag that spikes.
I seem to get tearing when I don’t cap my FPS, I have an acer XF250Q 240hz and I run Gsync without vsync at the moment
I have a 240 Hz display Ang I usually get 270-330 fps. What should I use, pls suggest, I always get terrible screen tearing
gsync on + vsync on in nvida control panel, 235 fps cap. game will run like butter
Should I use gsync + vsync on my 144hz monitor ? Don't people say it's not worth it if your fps are more than refresh rate ?
Great video, I had some questions. So I run at 180-210 frames, I have a 144 hz monitor, which of these options should I do?:
1. G sync on, Vsync on, Reflex on + boost to cap FPS
2. G sync on, v sync on, reflex boost on + boost
3. No gsync, no vsync, reflex still on+boost (since I think it reduces input lag)
3rd option on 144hz
@@ShakkN what about running 180-210fps on a 240hz monitor? punshed my odyssey g5 and got a g7 instead lmao
I actually tried the 2nd option and it's better imo. The game to render latency is only about 5-6ms thus barely notice the input lag.
@@Putte2013what is your settings? I have 240hz monitor and i get around 190-220fps
I have a question. I turn on a Vsync and my fps cap in 240 for my monitor hz but my game render has increase a lot which, increase from 3.9ms to 11ms so,I confuse why your game to render still the same.
It may be because your monitor is build like that....u will have to sacrifice ms for hz.
I can run 144hz but at 5ms though it can go to 3ms but 60hz.
144hz averaging around 100-140 should i turn adaptive freesync (vrr) and cap my fps?
my frames aren’t capped when i turn vsync on i have a 280hz monitor but i use 240hz and i’m getting 500-600fps, isn’t it suppose to be capped?
turning reflex to on and boost didnt cap my fps? (I have everything set to how it should be)
Hello need advice my laptop gpu gtx 1660 ti with external monitor 240hz, my fps limited in around 270, should i turn on gsync/vsync? Thx
I have asus monitor, but I can't turn on G-sync and ELMB at the same time. What do you think I should do if I want play valorant? turn on ELMB or G-sync?
G sync + v sync on my 240 hz monitor then should I turn off variable refresh rate in windows settings?
How did you manage to get down to 3ms of latency? Lowest I can get is 8.5
if i get around 300 fps in val with a 144 hz monitor should i run gsync or just capped in game w reflex boost
can you do an update video? There is ppl saying vsync should only be on in nvidia control panel and off in game nowadays?
I'm averaging 350 - 400fps and im using 240hz should i do the vsync + gsync on + nvidia reflex? :) ty in advance
Hey bro, I have a question. I have 165hz monitor w g sync. my fps is 110-160. What should I use? Can you help me pls. Thanks
I have 165hz with gsync . Running valorant around 180-220 fps . Should i turn om vsync and gsync?
240hz monitor.
So:
GSync Enabled
VSync on NVCP On
Low Latency Mode on NVCP Off
Nvidia Reflex ingame Enabled + Boost
I have a 237fps cap on NVCP too
Is that right?
LLM set to Ultra and cap fps in games and unlimited in NVCP
Correction i tried all possible combos at 360 hz with 600fps plus. For me GSNYNC ON VSYNC OFF, is the smoothest and most responsive by far for valorant at those specs!
I just turn g sync on and v sync off and cap fps, you won’t feel the different if u have a high end pc and high hz monitor so just cap ur fps
or use fix refresh rate, both does have a different feel
"With G-SYNC monitors, a lot of peole run ULMB (and fixed refresh rate) which are terrible, you shouldn't run either of those."
What? I was under the impression that when buying a high refresh rate monitor, one of the main selling points is the monitor's Black Frame Insertion (ULMB) quality. You can see for yourself on Blur Busters how much it improves the clarity of high velocity motion. Unless I'm missing something here?
165hz,i got 400-500 fps in valorant should i turn on the gsync + vsync on orturn on the gsync and vsync off
It depends. Do you want the game to look smoother or be more responsive? You can't have it both ways unfortunately.
Gsync on and vsync on (vsync needs to be on for gsync to work above 165fps). You can get 10-20ms less input latency if you don't use gsync+vsync. Which for me, is very noticeable.
If you want the lowest possible input latency: Turn Nvidia reflex on in valorant settings. Uncap the fps. Turn off gsync and vsync. And call it a day.
Thank you bro!!!
Hi I have monitor 144hz, I should use g sync and v sync+ boost ultra nvidia or only 144hz, g sync off, v sync off and boost ultra nvidia ?
Hey i have a 165hz monitor i don't know if i should run nothing with reflex on+boost or gsync with reflex on+boost
hey man. i have 144hz monitor, with g-sync compatible. should i use V-sync? and Cap fps with RTSS? (almost all games i play are around 100fps)
Enable GSYNC + VSYNC in the nvidia control panel, and enable reflex in game for games that have it enabled. If a game doesn't have reflex, use the in game limiter, if there is no in game limiter, use RTSS
@@ShakkN I really appreciate the help. Take care man. Too much lov =) and should I limit 100 fps or 140?
What is better thinking only in performance? G-sync on or off?
Weird shit. I am getting tearing all over the place sometimes, when running G-Sync. No other game is causing that issue.
Any suggestions?
Edit: I turned on V-Sync in the nvidia control panel, but my fps won't get higher than 225, even though my in game fps cap is set to 235. What does that mean? Is 225 the highest fps for G-Sync to work in that game?
Vsync locks your fps to your refresh rate, I'm assuming yours is 240? If you have Low latency mode ultra OR nvidia reflex ON, then the game will automatically limit fps below your refresh rate. The only way to change the actual FPS it limits it to is to limit it lower or turn off vsync then limit the fps.
The other option is turn on reflex. Limit fps to 235 IN GAME (you might wanna go lower), turn off vsync and gsync. This should provide similar latency as if you were using gsync+vsync but with a higher frame limit along with the benefits of reflex.
Heyho, I play Valorant where it’s often about latency who kills who. I have a 165hz monitor with Freesync so it's G-Sync compatible. Now my question is whether it is worth activating Freesync or not, because my PC often get around 100-130 Fps.
I have the same question?
Bro i have a gsync monitor with 240hz, ingame i have about 200-220 fps should i enable g sync? without it i get weird tearing
use it and cap at 197 fps
Hey i so i have a g sync monitor with 180 hz refresh rate and i get about 250 frames, what should i use?
i have 240 hz monitor ryzen 3600, gtx 1080 and 16gb ram. I got 200-300 fps. G sync and v sync on capped my fps 240 and my latency is 7-10 is it normal ?
Hey bro,if I have monitor 240hz gsync,and I play fortnite.
I need put gsync on
Nvidia panel vsync on
Nvida triple buffer on
In fortnite vsync off
In fortnite nvidia reflex boost on
In fortnite cap 237 fps
In nvidia low latency off?
I need put this settings for my best gsync?
Need some help... Running 1080 Ti with LG GN800-B (144Hz panel). I read many comments, watched your video, still not sure on what to do.
Should I:
• Cap FPS in-game at 141 with G-Sync on, nVidia V-Sync @ Fast
vs.
• No FPS limit, no G-Sync/V-Sync of any sort?
Also, is 12ms game to render latency bad, and if so, would ~6ms be considered good?
great video, I have done this on apex legends and I wanted to see if the results were the same as on valorant.
Do the things you say about Gsync apply equally to Gsync Compatible (adaptive sync)?
Are you talking about AMD Freesync?
@@ShakkN My monitor is labeled as "Gsync Compatible" and in the monitor settings I turn on "Adaptive Sync". I have an Nvidia graphics card and it displays that my Gsync is enabled if I turn on the indicator in Nvidia control panel.
@@JKornberg Can you DM me on twitter @ShakkCS
@@ShakkN he has a freesync monitor like me i have the same thing but you can use gsync on it he's asking it applies to a freesync monitor which can be used as a gsync compatible
@@JKornberg Yes its the same thing and still applies, the only thing is "actual" g-sync monitors run this technology better
Thanks, very clear and useful
yo bro, instead of v sync on would fast sync be better?
I have 144hz monitor with adaptive sync and my fps above 250 in valorant, should i on vsync?
I noticed a difference from gsync off uncapped getting 800fps in valorant on a 270hz monitor compared to gsync on vsync off capped at 255hz the smoothness is heaven and also noticeable in fortnite at max settings also failed to mention my montior is 1440p
i have asus tuf gaming vg279qm, should i turn on g sync? i play valorant tho...
Great video dude :)
If I have 170 fps, and sometimes 120 fps(it depends how many entities are around me) in valorant, should I use g sync(144hz monitor)?
Yes 1000%. If you are barley going over/can’t go over your monitors hz, you should be using gsync.
@@ShakkN oh, thank you!
I like the way you said entities, dawg
i have a 165hz monitor should i have gsync and vsync off or on?
Nice man I'll give it a try :D this video explained a lot.
A bit late but i play Valorant with a 280hz monitor + GTX1080 and i usually try to aim for lowest input lag. The problem is i dont really get 280hz on Valorant so im wondering if i should do GSYNC/VSYNC/Reflex ON (FPS Capped around 220) or GSYNC on VSYNC off Reflex ON no fps cap?
If you don’t get 280 FPS use gsync + vsync + on+boost
@@ShakkN thats what i did thanks
@@reconax did you downgrade from 280hz to 240hz to use vsync+gsync at 237fps?
Can i do it on a 2560x1440 with 165 hz monitor?
I have blocked fps by graphic card and i dont want to enable vsync but if i dont enable it the screen looks like 30 fps even that i am getting 60 by my choice on graphic card, i dont want to use vsync cuz it makes the ms latency highter than when it is off so its very annoying, i have connected my pc with hdmi on my monitor
360hz with 500 fps, gsync and vsync on?
Would u recommend to use free sync in fps game?
I have 144hz monitor with 190-230fps, usually streaming using OBS. But i have micro stutter in game. What should i do ? Thank you
how its going, tips?
Bro i have a gtx 1060 with 144hz monitor do i have to turn on gsync and vsync?? In average i got 230 fps
i would recommend not turning gsync on in this case
@@ShakkN and vsync off? But i have screen tearing in valorant what should i do?
Hello please help, Im really confused right now. I have a 165hz monitor with free sync. Most of the time 80-85% I get higher fps than 165. Should I turn on my monitor freesync? Should I turn on my computers g sync? Please help
You should enable Gsync. It is recommended to cap your framerate to 3 frames less than the refresh rate of your monitor, which would be 162 FPS in your case. Now, in my own experience, in game framerate limiters is the way to go, as Nvidias control panel limiter and RTSS produce input delay. In that case, if the in game limiter doesnt allow you to set a fixed value, go for one that is below your monitors refresh rate. Example I have a 144hz display, and I use the 120fps limiter in most games.
I get about 230fps without vysinc but it drops to 130 sometimes. So with vysinc on I only loose a couple of frames and it caps at 144
so if i have 144 monitor and i can reach 144fps i can make g synca nd v sync on both ?
For a 144hz refresh rate monitor, what would your recommendations be?
SO GYNC AND VSYNC THEN CAP MY FPS EX. 240HZ MONITOR CAP TO 238 FPS ?
hey man, I have 165hz monitor and I get 300-400 fps in valorant, should I use gsync or not?
No, do not use gsync
@@ShakkN how about freesync?
@@charlesricafort4042 its the same tecnolagy so i guess no ?
@Juergen Rau input lag trade off isn’t worth it
so i need to turn on gsync + vsync on for 240hz then reflex latency should be on + boost right?
Yes in NVCP turn on GSYNC AND VSYNC, VSYNC OFF in game, ON+BOOST in game
hi, would you think that a laptop with a 2080 could fit with a 165hz monitor with gsync?
or would u recommend a 240 hz without g sync? my laptopt is a msi GE63 raider 8sg (i7 8750h)
Also when I have no frame limit but Nvidia Reflex to ON + Boost my FPS in game displays as going higher than my refresh rate, does this mean the reflex limiter is not working or is this supposed to happen?
The reflex limiter will only work if you are running Vsync in the NVIDIA Panel. If you don't have Vsync on in the NVIDIA panel your frames will be uncapped.
@@ShakkN hey, can i ask something, if i can run valorant on 200fps and i have 144hz monitor, should i use v sync and cap my fps to 142, or should i turn off v sync and uncapped my fps?, + should i use free sync? Thanks
@@kevinwijaya6626 do not use gsync or vsync. Just uncap and let your frames run feee on 144hz monitor
is there a reason your FPS max was set to 500 in this video and not 358?
Vsync of for me in Val, i cant see a tearing more than once a week with it set to OFF. its nice to play with 900 fps too. However if u get tearing on your screen, use v sync, if not its much more corect to set it off not fuckling my sensor feel for me togheter with my mice aiming. It has been more and more normal for last the year on games that its no need for vsync , before the vsync was a must all had tearing- notso much now. maybe your screen has somthing to say? my scrren is hi end and and fast.
Bro i have a freesync monitor but we can run gsync on them so should i on gsync on 144hz
I have 144hz monitor and uncap fps is 144-200+, should i use gsync only or both gsync and vsync?
From what I’ve learned from a different video is you should run both but cap your FPS 5 FPS below your monitor refresh rate. So if you have a 144hz monitor you should cap your FPS at 138 so that Vsync never kicks in. And the reason you want vsync while also using gsync is because even if you cap your FPS at 138 without vsync you’ll still get screen tearing. So you get rid of screen tearing without having input delay. Hope that helps!
@@K_I_L_R_O_Y yes use both. Im using both with my 144hz Monitor and it caped my fps auto to 138 and i dont have screen tearing
I have a 240 hz monitor, but it’s being capped at 59 fps when I turn g sync and v sync on. Should I turn off v sync?
Do you have a capture card?
@@ShakkN no i don’t
You might have your monitor set to 60hz instead of 240 hz. You should look into that
hey bro so whats the point of enabling vsync then if your fps is always under?
Wait, why should I enable V-SYNC with G-SYNC again? And why am I still seeing tearing with G-SYNC enabled and V-SYNC disabled? Isn’t G-SYNC suppose to fix that?
(LAST UPDATED: 05/02/2019)
The answer is frametime variances.
“Frametime” denotes how long a single frame takes to render. “Framerate” is the totaled average of each frame’s render time within a one second period.
At 144Hz, a single frame takes 6.9ms to display (the number of which depends on the max refresh rate of the display, see here), so if the framerate is 144 per second, then the average frametime of 144 FPS is 6.9ms per frame.
In reality, however, frametime from frame to frame varies, so just because an average framerate of 144 per second has an average frametime of 6.9ms per frame, doesn’t mean all 144 of those frames in each second amount to an exact 6.9ms per; one frame could render in 10ms, the next could render in 6ms, but at the end of each second, enough will hit the 6.9ms render target to average 144 FPS per.
So what happens when just one of those 144 frames renders in, say, 6.8ms (146 FPS average) instead of 6.9ms (144 FPS average) at 144Hz? The affected frame becomes ready too early, and begins to scan itself into the current “scanout” cycle (the process that physically draws each frame, pixel by pixel, left to right, top to bottom on-screen) before the previous frame has a chance to fully display (a.k.a. tearing).
G-SYNC + V-SYNC “Off” allows these instances to occur, even within the G-SYNC range, whereas G-SYNC + V-SYNC “On” (what I call “frametime compensation” in this article) allows the module (with average framerates within the G-SYNC range) to time delivery of the affected frames to the start of the next scanout cycle, which lets the previous frame finish in the existing cycle, and thus prevents tearing in all instances.
And since G-SYNC + V-SYNC “On” only holds onto the affected frames for whatever time it takes the previous frame to complete its display, virtually no input lag is added; the only input lag advantage G-SYNC + V-SYNC “Off” has over G-SYNC + V-SYNC “On” is literally the tearing seen, nothing more
Quoted from blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-input-lag-tests-and-settings/15
What if my rig is not powerful enough and I have ~100 fps. Should I get the 240hz monitor? Will I have impossible tearing?
it won't tear. it's just a waste of money. get the 144hz one or 120hz one.
@@kulfi9705 thanks for the answer!
I got a good deal for a Alienware AW2521HFLA, 24" - 240hz with vsync and FreeSync.
I use it as the main monitor for work as well as gaming on my laptop. No issues at all :D
@@Just1kOoL yeah, you won't have issues but I personally believe that it would be much better if you had invested in a less pricey option. I have the older version of the monitor you bought and it is FANTASTIC. The thing is, no matter how high the hz, the monitor can only display that amount of hz say 240 if you're getting 240 frames consistently
Why on earth would you get a 240hz monitor if you barely get 100fps. Stick to 75 or go 144 until you can upgrade the rig.
@@trevorv3804 girlfriend is using a laptop. Pc upgrade in the future. :(