Did Controversy help Sell Sabrina Carpenter?

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  • @kalesalad6263
    @kalesalad6263 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    she went through so much: flop Disney label, drama, song backlash, new label bankrupt, random hate trains….. I’m so happy that she keeps her head up because it’s a tough industry

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The industry is so unkind to everyone

  • @adhishagulati03
    @adhishagulati03 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    She got an edge but at what cost? She got de@th threats and was considered a homewrecker for no reason. That could've ended her career but she managed it gracefully... she was able to do so because she has crafted herself for so many years as an artist and celebrity... a newbie wouldve never able to reinvent themselves from the narrative

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It was a high risk but she got a high reward in the end, an opportunity that is often few and far in between

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I also agree with you that because she’s been in the industry for a long time she was able to navigate her new superstardom, when she was on tour with Taylor Swift a lot of comments were praising the fact that she seemed really comfortable with performing in front of such a large crowd

  • @fairymystonight1783
    @fairymystonight1783 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I felt like it just made it harder for her to get the spotlight , but the fact she was able to gain it back speaks volumes. She did that on her own.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She didn’t really have a spotlight before 2021 though

    • @tia2069
      @tia2069 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Itsbabygirltshe absolutely did. She did not have 25 mil followers on insta before all the drama for nothing. She was famous but not popular bc her label was shit and like most Disney stars it's difficult for them to shift over from tv shows to a distinct career unless they are properly promoted. Let's not forget a lot of her songs were popular people just didn't know it was sabrina carpenters songs like they do now.

  • @tsukiyuki517
    @tsukiyuki517 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    not really, because if it did, her career would skyrocket alongside olivia, but that didn't happen until the eras tour promo a.k.a last year, the real event that took her onto the spotlight. THAT drama only bring her in as "the blonde girl", never as "sabrina carpenter"

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But why was she booked to be an opener for Taylor? She had trending songs and was a constant topic of conversation for months and then got extra exposure
      There were other openers for the Eras tour like Paramore and Phoebe Bridgers, and Gayle who didn’t blow up like Sabrina, despite being on the same tour

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Although the drama did bring her negativity like I mentioned in the video, it also brought her a certain level of public interest that most artists never get in their careers, and she was smart enough to capitalize on it, which speaks to her talent and marketing skills

    • @Talia778
      @Talia778 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with you, and I also think that “because I liked a boy” would have charted better if it was all due to the controversy. She was hated! But I also think everything fell into place just right to get her where she is. So I won’t say it didn’t do anything for her career. But then I think you could argue they all have each other to thank for their success.

    • @kevinmeza2344
      @kevinmeza2344 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Itsbabygirlt She opened for Ariana Grande in Brazil in 2017, it's not like taylor was the first celebrity to know her lol, Sabrina already had around 2 billion streams on Spotify alone before the Olivia thing

    • @leyehwilliams617
      @leyehwilliams617 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Itsbabygirlttaylor new of Sabrina before Olivia

  • @quepaso793
    @quepaso793 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    100% it wasn't until Olivia's album sour did I find out who Sabrina Carpenter was. That's no hate but it's true. She's very talented and pretty but never really got into the spotlight. Until 2021.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same for me, and I don’t think it’s hate to say that!

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for watching 😊

    • @fatinnajihah9055
      @fatinnajihah9055 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      me too

  • @hertearanswer
    @hertearanswer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Great video. :) Although I agree that this controversy made a lot of people aware of her existence I would argue that it didn't help her that much. She is partially lucky that culture is slowly shifting because I can't imagine back in the day a female artist (who wasn't already really successful, established, and beloved) still having a career after that. A few years ago it would be over for her, sadly. Now, she was at least able to share her side of the story even tho - as you pointed out - she didn't have a big enough fanbase to fight for her. But I think it was mostly due to how she handled it. Her response was very classy, she didn't even come for Olivia. And she kept working hard, building her image, her brand and capitalizing on her viral moments, which is something a lot of newer artists don't know how to do. And if that wasn't enough she brought back something that was missing in pop lately - fun, energetic bops. I really believe that if it happened to someone else who couldn't handle it this well the attention wouldn't benefit them, not long term at least. Ultimately she was already a pretty great artist who needed more audience and all that happened made her into an excellent one. I became a fan of her some time ago and can't wait to hear her new album and see what she does next. ;)

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for watching! 😊 The points you made were so true, it’s incredibly she was able to come out of this on top

  • @IAmTrash1995
    @IAmTrash1995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    No. Controversy didn’t. Sabrina worked hard. If anything that controversy launched Olivia Rodrigo and now the girl who’s put in a lot of work is finally reaping the rewards and it didn’t take using someone to make herself known

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Many people have worked hard, are working hard and will work hard but that alone is not enough to get mainstream success, it’s good that everything’s worked out well for Sabrina in the end

    • @IAmTrash1995
      @IAmTrash1995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Itsbabygirlt coming from a performer myself I get that sometimes being in the right spot at the right time can definitely make things easier but I can never support stepping on others to get to a higher position. Putting others down in the dirt to elevate yourself. Especially when you can clear up a controversy instead of reaping the awards. Olivia had almost every opportunity to set the record straight and yet she did nothing but enjoyed all the benefits from writing a song that makes females hate males even more like taking a page from Taylor swift’s book. How original. I’m happy for Sabrina because now the shoe is on the other foot.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IAmTrash1995 I think Olivia’s management stopped her from speaking out. Record labels and management can be ruthless

    • @IAmTrash1995
      @IAmTrash1995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Itsbabygirlt that’s also possibility. Can’t deny it but my point still stands. It’s what elevated Olivia and kicked down Sabrina. No one even knew who Olivia was unless you had Disney Plus. If anything that put her on the map and not Sabrina. Sabrina had already made herself known to the world by that point. She didn’t need Olivia or this “controversy” to help with that. Olivia went on to perform at events people dream about and work hard to possibly get the chance to perform in literally her first year and Sabrina had already been at this for a while. It didn’t sit well with many people. Just another example of tearing down someone else to elevate yourself. The controversy is long past and she still hasn’t cleared the air. Maybe she truly can’t speak out. I won’t deny that possibility but that doesn’t change my point of Olivia needed this controversy more than Sabrina.

  • @marlenaganache
    @marlenaganache 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nah. Sabrina’s sexy fun blonde image rebrand and her song catalog is what’s selling Sabrina. She writes hits! Plus she can actually sing and doesn’t come off corny like some of her peers, who are more or less glorified influencers attempting to be iconic Pop Stars.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marlenaganache interesting pov! Thanks for watching 😊

  • @dijon-xx1tz
    @dijon-xx1tz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Actually it was the other way around. Controversy is what catapulted OR.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not driver’s license? 🤔

    • @gabry3129
      @gabry3129 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      nah personally I discovered the whole drama recently but I've always loved Olivia

    • @VioletStone100
      @VioletStone100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I got to agree the controversy catapulted Olivia

    • @alishamertelus1340
      @alishamertelus1340 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep

    • @itwaslegendari
      @itwaslegendari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      exactlyyyyyyyyyy

  • @PrettyBlackKen2008
    @PrettyBlackKen2008 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’ve Been A Fan Of Sabrina Since 2018 When She Released “Almost Love” In Which Was The Song That Helped Introduce Me 2 Her

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I haven’t heard of that song, I’ll check it out

    • @rociocollazo9109
      @rociocollazo9109 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my case was "Sue Me" back in 2017! I already knew who she was though, probably heard Thumbs and watched one or two films before starting to actually follow her.

  • @xx.sophiethefirst
    @xx.sophiethefirst 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember hearing her from that Alan Walker song honestly! I think the controversy made many aware of her existence sp perhaps it gave her some help but it helped Olivia to a much higher degree. I think with Sabrina her (sometimes out of pocket) perosnaloty on media drew her some attention and her incorporation in the eras tour really allowed people to appreciate her talent albeit later than olivias hits,but nonetheless good music and passion

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, she definitely knows how to work the media
      Thanks for watching 😊

  • @kalesalad6263
    @kalesalad6263 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Most of music that goes viral nowadays is carried by controversy. The drama in 2021 made Olivia look good and Sabrina bad, essentially giving Olivia a lot of sympathy and support. I guarantee if there wasn’t any drama, it wouldn’t have been a big thing for her.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, controversy and drama just attract so much attention, it matters what you’re able to do with it

  • @Mtv20O1
    @Mtv20O1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think it’s based on how you see it. She got her name out there but she was the most hated woman for a good year due to the DL drama (some still hate her for it). If it did help her, she would have gotten immediate attention just like Olivia. Olivia was the only one who benefited from the drama and was seen as the “victim”. She got overnight fame. Sure, some didn’t know about the drama but her main fanbase is those her age or younger who use social media. They were all waiting to find more “clues” about the love triangle and hence listened to all her singles and then listened to sour when it was released. Drivers license only began being popular among her fanbase until people started associating it with Sabrina and Josh thus pushing it to go viral and then become a massive hit because it was everywhere.
    It wasn’t until this year where people started investing time with Sabrina’s music. You can say the same thing about Olivia tho and how it helped her get stardom. I think in a lot of ways to some extent it helped both Olivia and Sabrina.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re right, she definitely dealt with alot of hate and unnecessary drama.
      “It wasn’t until this year until people started investing time in Sabrina’s music” my pov is she’s not the only one doing fun pop music, there was a lead up in her journey and music that made her gain more and more popularity and attention, she gained a spotlight and public interest that few people get and managed to turn it around in her favor.
      (Thanks for watching 😊)

    • @Mtv20O1
      @Mtv20O1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Itsbabygirlt I agree with your second part. I do think her personality, tongue in cheek lyrics, and her finally being able to release her own music post Disney label is what helped push her to stardom. However, I do think to some degree she did help push the fun pop songs especially with Espresso. Espresso is literally a song about nothing but the tune of it, is very bubblegum pop influenced. It is just a fun song to vibe to. There is nothing more to it.
      Music was in a state where every song released was moody or angsty beginning in the start of 2010s till the pandemic (this was the time where it really exploded). Music needed to be relatable and show the dark sides of life. It’s the reason people geared towards people like Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo because their music was “relatable” and “meaningful”. Sabrina, while she does make some moody songs, her music is pure fun pop. It wasn’t until mid 2023 and this year where people started to want fun pop again. This is why we are seeing more people interested in the music of Sabrina, Tate McRae, or Chappell Roan because they are pushing the danceable fun and happy bops.

  • @ashbieri
    @ashbieri 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It must suck being Joshua rn tbh cuz imagine two of your ex gfs breaking it in the music industry, aka, the industry you also belong to/are looking to break out in as well

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, it’s actually sad, but he’s currently releasing new music and is on tour, so he’s still doing what he loves

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He still has time

  • @itwaslegendari
    @itwaslegendari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if it was the controversy that made her famous then emails i couldnt send would’ve been a success

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was pretty successful, no?

    • @itwaslegendari
      @itwaslegendari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Itsbabygirlt yes but not as much as espresso / please please and the short n sweet album

  • @annapolak8707
    @annapolak8707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To some point it did because if it all didn't happen then she would have written different songs which could have been worse and not bring attention to her. But it's like. Her music is good. It's classic pop. And she was already known - she was from Disney so it already made her have a higher probability of success. It's like asking whether all of TS failed relationships helped her career. They made her be who she is today and she would probably be someone else and write something else so of course they kinda did. But the talent, the writing, the work. It all came from her, both Sabrina and Taylor.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@annapolak8707 that’s a good perspective to look at it from, the experiences made their music but it was also their talent and writing as well
      I still do think a little bit of controversy make the music much sweeter to listen to 😂

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@annapolak8707 thanks for watching! 😊

  • @sagelabyrinth8780
    @sagelabyrinth8780 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If anything controversy sold olivia hard. Sabrina didnt take off even after the controversy, it took her a while and she got popular for her nonsense outros and the eras tour to get her wgere she is now

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel it was a little bit of everything
      Thanks for watching 😊

  • @moviesmartass3079
    @moviesmartass3079 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wouldent say the controversy but how she handled it
    Plus this was around the time she switched labels Hollywood is really bad at promoting their artists lol
    Then the eras tour
    A bunch of things around the same time basically

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, everything just lined up well for her, it was just her time to shine ✨

  • @xbluebellsx7492
    @xbluebellsx7492 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't think the controversy with O*ivia help push her get on the forefront of pop culture? imo the short answer is no. Sure, people learned her name, but she was associated with negativity, so ppl weren't really streaming her music bc of it (emails i can't send didn't have that many more streams compared to her previous albums). I think it was opening for Taylor and her relationship with Barry that really gave her the attention she needed to become one of the biggest stars rn
    source: a fan since 2015

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting point and thank you for watching 💓 from my pov, She’s had her own tour and it didn’t bring her main stream attention, and the other artists who also opened for Taylor Swift didn’t go viral like she did. Her relationship with Barry has brought her attention, sure, but she also dated Shawn Mendes who was very popular at that time but that wasn’t enough to make her a big star.

    • @ramonajavier5938
      @ramonajavier5938 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Itsbabygirlt she didn't date Shawn that was false rumor and he denied the rumors

  • @jaimerendonzenteno
    @jaimerendonzenteno 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I thought taylor was the main reason she blew up tbh

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The eras tour helped a lot, but I feel like there was a build up before and after
      Thanks for watching 😊

    • @jaimerendonzenteno
      @jaimerendonzenteno 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Itsbabygirlt Yeah I agree!

  • @erika.villca
    @erika.villca 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't really think Olivia had anything to do with her suceed, if anything she would have suceeded more if it weren't because of Olivia. Of course, many people got to know her name with the drama, but they didn't care to listen to her songs. It was when The Eras Tour started that she began to get recognition due to her talent, personality, her nonsense outros and her looks. Also, Taylor already kned who she was before all that too, she gifted Sab one of the cardigans when folklore came out. She is a pop star icon and the It girl. She became more popular than Paramore because she is young, funny and sings pop songs that doesn't need any context to vibe to aka Expresso.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting perspective, so many things happened together for her and it seems it was her right time to shine

  • @alishamertelus1340
    @alishamertelus1340 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its the other way around as well for OR

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like her song Drivers license did well before people started digging for who she was talking about, the whole Sour album as well

    • @alishamertelus1340
      @alishamertelus1340 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Itsbabygirlt probably, but that controversy put her on the map. Literally every single time you would search up Oliva's name around that period, articles, videos and so many mentions come up of that drama. Before that I wasn't even that familiar with whom she was until I looked up an article with her that had Sabrina's name, that's when I was completely strucked and curious, because I knew who Sabrina was due to the fact that I used to heavily watched her tv show Girl meets World and listened to her second album Evolution when I used to watch Disney channel around 2016. I didn't even know who Joshua was until that particular time. The drama and controversy is what sell the Sour album and that's why it was so huge, because drama basically sells in the industry, she and her team knows that. It also gave Sabrina and her team a wake up call to revamp her career and reputation which was almost damaged by that drama and she redeemed herself to the public with her Emails I can't send album, went on her own sold out tour, became viral with her nonsense outros on tiktok and then eventually earned the opportunity to sing on Taylor's tour which brought more attention on her and now she is truly getting recognition. Her relationship with Barry is also helping.

  • @fAshSon
    @fAshSon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t care about the love drama. I knew Espresso was going to be huge the moment I heard it on the radio

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s great

  • @MangoMonster34
    @MangoMonster34 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative 💛

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you 😊❤️

  • @sfacegreycat
    @sfacegreycat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think u mean olivia

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her song drivers license was an instant hit (plus the wholee album) before people started figuring out who her lyrics were about

    • @Mtv20O1
      @Mtv20O1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@Itsbabygirlther song was a big hit among her fans then once they figured out who it was about the drama started to unfold
      it’s the reason a lot of people were so invested in the rest of her singles and then the rest of sour because they knew who her ex bf and who the “blonde” girl were

    • @Mtv20O1
      @Mtv20O1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Itsbabygirltpeople figured out who the songs were about once drivers license was released
      her fandom is what pushed it to mainstream without them talking about it, it wouldn’t have gone viral on TikTok and then all over social platforms SNL did a skit on it a few weeks after the release of it

  • @adyaparamitaputripratama2786
    @adyaparamitaputripratama2786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genuinely asking: why isnt Joshua Bassett, who was severely hurt by the drama, doesnt receive the same attention as both Olivia and Sabrina? Because, from my pov, i feel like both Sabrina, despite being hurt too, but she managed to be at the top especially after the eras tour while Olivia after both Sour and Guts. But Joshua?? I feel like he's sort of left out and is always be associated with both of them (instance 1. When he posted his time during HSMTMTS and the end of HSMTMTS, people said he havent move on from Olivia, many more). Is it because Josh didnt re-invent himself? I genuinely want the best for the three, but i cant help but have this feeling that he's being left out(?) as in he havent receive the same amount of success. Sorry for the long question/explanation

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t apologize, thanks for the long explanation 😊
      I feel he’s the mouse that got trampled by two elephants. The music scene is also currently dominated by women, especially in pop, so maybe there just wasn’t a demand for him as an artist? The drama also made him look like he was playing two girls and so that was a bad look on his part and many female fans were put off by him? But he’s young and still releasing music so he may also have his big break one day

  • @LevonaNewman-os5bw
    @LevonaNewman-os5bw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 you went straight to the point

  • @kimjay425
    @kimjay425 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just subscribed 😊

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love that and love you ❤️

  • @tvtalkwithavi
    @tvtalkwithavi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Short answer: yes.

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha 😆, and the long answer?

  • @furrycheetah
    @furrycheetah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    But comes with a heavy price in entertainment industry

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heavy is the head that wears the crown

  • @05sfxxxxxxx
    @05sfxxxxxxx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, in a bad way only 😂 not for me sorry

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bad? In what way, I’m curious

  • @Diego-gg1rc
    @Diego-gg1rc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Girl you’re too naive (respectfully). It was obviously a publicity thing

    • @Itsbabygirlt
      @Itsbabygirlt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The drama between Olivia and Sabrina is publicity? In what world lol