Good evening: It's sad the Music Industry is doing this to these artists. This is partly why these artists start (skincare, makeup) lines. They need that cash..!! This shows you don't need to be signed to anything to be a artist..!! The industry is so shady makes no sense. Great video 🙂🙂
Hi there, I totally agree! The record label system was definitely designed to make it difficult for artists & we’ve seen it happen where a lot of labels just drop their artists once they are done with them. They treat them like products & not real humans. Thanks so much for the support. 😊
Well just to let you know….some of these artists didn’t start fragrance, skincare, and makeup lines because they needed money….some of them genuinely just wanted to try something different and new for them. I mean if that was the case that they simply needed money…..all of their products would be at a much higher price than what they are. Take Rare Beauty, now that launched in September 2020 but….makeup lines actually take a few years to come out which means Selena was definitely working on it back in like 2017-2019. If Selena truly needed the money at that point, she would’ve had all her products be priced pretty high from what they currently are which is the $20’s-$30’s range……that’s pretty affordable from $30-$40 which is the price range for most of the makeup brands out there.
It doesn’t, because most artists would never be famous or make money without a labels investment and connections. If anything it shows you can be a starving artist
@@tiamarrow6366 that’s not how it works. If you know you’re gonna sell 100 thousand products you know you don’t need to charge a lot. Doesn’t mean they don’t need the money otherwise why would they charge
As an independent, up-and-coming artist myself, this video gave me an idea to start my own label! Thank you for this informative inside look into the music industry! Please make more videos on Chance the Rapper and Frank Ocean! I would love to know the steps to their massive financial success as an independent artist! Thank you! New subscriber! 🥰
@@hollytrumpler4146 Wow! I’m so honored that you would want to sign to my label when I create it! Out of curiosity, what exactly motivates you to want to sign with me? Thank you so much for your input! 🥰
Not surprising. I remember watching a deep dive on kpop contracts a few years ago, and the lable wont even show them their quotas, and even add things like classes and surgeries to keep them in debt and in or resign the contract. I remember Billie eilish wrote in one of her song something along the lines of what once was a fun hobby is noe a borinf job. That goes for any career, honestly. But it must be harder if youre contractually obligated to produce something in a certain amount of time. Quantity over quality. Even content creators have spoken about how they make more money selling merchandise over monetization on their videos.
Artists can either be famous and broke or grind it out underground and make half a million year with small shows, merch, smaller brand deals and 100% of the royalties from their music and COMPLETE creative freedom. But that fame is too enticing. 21 Savage, Chance the Rapper & Tyler the Creator got it right and are thriving.
With Tyler, Chance and 21, they all made sure they have good recording contracts (e.g.: 21 owning his masters). Bad recording contracts are still a thing unfortunately😢
This makes me concerned about VCHA, JYP's newest girl group that is from America and co signed with Republic Records. The group is mainly made up of minors and I saw they were binded to a 20 year contract with Republic Records. I honestly don't think they're gonna have that longevity because most kpop contracts end after 7 years. It will be interesting to see how they do in the US.
Omg that’s insane! I know Kpop industry itself has a whole lot of dark issues. Lots of overworked & burnt out artists getting paid dust. I’ve never heard of VCHA but I’ll definitely check them out now😌
@@Desiludildoit’s pretty common in america, paramounts lead singer recently talked about her own 20 year contract ending recently after she signed it when she was 14
But think someone’s going to allow a gang stalking campaign against themselves to break down barriers in a wack Industry lmao I want these frauds to leave me tf alone & go play with their pups. Nothing makes their behavior make sense but being BROKE 🤷🏿♀️ They harass people at 9-5 & play with their bag because they are jealous of that too. They need to pay back their loans & stfu
CORRECT! 💯‼️ We have seen it many many times. That’s why if I ever got into the industry I would work behind the scenes bc that’s where the real money is. The artists are just the face of the label.
i remember when i saw that announcement, i wrote on their yt post that i hope they have people watching the money, etc. i think they were just enamored of beyonce.
@@orangemoonglows2692I think beyonce gave them a small deal so that if they ever wanted to leave it wouldn’t be hard to pay back the 1 million advance. both chloe and halle could easily come up with 500k each if they needed to
Selena doing her thang cause I have an palette of hers and I been using it everyday for my everyday looks and her blush is so pigmented like a little goes a long way
@Moviesondemandtv When did I say she was??? And she's victimized sometimes people be hating on her just to hate her sometimes but other times I can agree
I think what makes people mad about Selena is that she proves that's not the amount of talent you have it's about what you make of the talent you do have . She makes the best of what talents she has, and understand why her fans are drawn to her, it's that simple.
And also her drama with Hailey Beiber and Justin beiber .Every tims there is a drama btw them there is always a follow uo rare ad or a new movie or a new Selena Album .
I hope tinashe stays independent, Songs for you, 333 and bbangel are cohesive bodies of work and great rnb music. Her latest work bbangel is very experimental and cool. RCA tried desperately to make her fit into a popstar mold and gave her a bad rollout for her album Joyride. She’s got decent streaming numbers too
She is extremely talented and underrated! And I know RCA has got a bad reputation for being a bad label to a lot of their artists. I hope she stays independent and sticks to her own style of music & not what other people want for her.
@@loved3165 I’m not calling those particular artists broke-they definitely are A listers with a lot more money than other celebrities. The video is about how the music industry/record labels leaves artists in debt & most of the famous artists we see don’t really get paid a lot. A lot of these artists don’t make as much money from music as we perceive. Hence, that’s why they establish their own beauty brands, businesses, clothing lines, sponsors, etc. They make more money doing outside things.
I don’t know about Selena or Ariana and their finances, but Rihanna was almost bankrupt and her record contract was not the best either and this happened before the ‘Anti’ album era.
Not every artist and even actress/actor who has a makeup brand, fragrance brand, or skincare brand has one because they’re broke. I mean think about it….you have to actually have the money to create one if you’re not already working with another brand, who wants to collab with you and just slap your face and name on their products. Selena most definitely had the money to create Rare Beauty, and she never collaborated with any makeup brands to make it happened…Her brand has its own website, and it’s in Sephora. In order for an artist to have a makeup brand, they have to have the money to get started. So Selena definitely had the money for it back in 2017-2019 to work on ig, and then in 2020 to finally launch it. Plus, something to really take into consideration….none of it is free. You need to pay people to go out there and source the ingredients to make the products (some ingredients are rare to find and source, making them a bit more pricey) then you need to pay to have the products created, pay for the packaging, pay for the shipping and storage….while it might not cost a whole lot all together….it still costs. You can’t create and have a makeup brand, unless things are paid for.
Whenever I hear about how little artists make and how they have to take on multiple streams of income that have nothing to do with their music, I think back to when TLC wrote "No Scrubs" like "If you have no car and you're walkin', if you live at home with your mama," only to turn around and tell everybody "We are as broke as can be." That was my first red flag about how the music industry treats artists.
Do not join the music industry!!! The tools you need for success are available to you without a music label! Don’t let anyone tell you what you can and can’t sing. Monetize your voice by yourself but don’t give it to anyone to manipulate.
this is why being an independent artist is better you pay your way upfront but you can pick and choose HOW you spend your money when producing a single or a album you learn how record yourself and save a TON of money. A lot labels actually are money laundering to other a bunch recording studios in LA im a producer and seen a lot of things gone down.
I’m glad I’m an independent artist, I don’t feel the need to be signed to a major label and get my creativity stripped away from me by people in high positions who control everything I do.
Why is Selena Gomez in there? her networth is 800 million. And its not because she's just a popstar, its because of her businesses outside of singing, that and because she is an actress.
she’s an example of one of the artists who started her own business outside of music. If you watch she’s after Rihanna since Selena created rare beauty which did so well!
Omg I totally remember her! I remember her & Nick in Karmin, Broken-hearted & Crash your party were my favorites. I did see she started rapping now, she’s always been so talented. Good for her for going independent!
I listen to her sometimes. I hadn’t paid much attention to the label, so I didn’t know she used to be signed. She’s super talented. I’m glad she got out.
I believe the biggest problem aren't the industry execs; it's us and the internet. Most of us (myself included) don't BUY artists' music anymore, or at least no where near as much as before, because we can just hear and stream them for free. It's no wonder artists have to scramble like this to make any real money.
Some these artists is a cash grab but and their product sucks Rihanna is a true icon she understands the quality just to not throw it out and stamp her name on it she has on of the best beauty brand also Ariana as well the products are well done and made ppl following the Rihanna strategy they see her being so successful and a self made billionaire that they trying to do the same but I’m afraid to many are doing it now ppl catching on as for the McDonald’s brand Travis Scott has one of the best celebrity meals every one else didn’t have nothing special but they made money it also got to do who u are as well this is a very good video on this subject yes the industry is definitely money hungry
I agree! I’ve been using Rihanna’s products for 6 years now since she launched her line-great quality. I appreciate that she understands quality & inclusivity.
Eh I wouldn't put Ariana in it cause her first launch seemed like she didn't put any effort cause I bought one of her gel eyeshadows that were like $40 cause I trusted the Ulta workers input andddd I got scammed cause it dried up so quick
@@ZionDoesMakeup omg I did hear some people reviewed her brand and it wasn’t the best quality. I haven’t used one of her products but I do have a lot of her perfumes.
@@Keliforniamedia Yeah chileee it was real bad not only did it dry up quick but it started getting chunky and clumpy mind you I was using it for my bday look so that irritated me
Thats why they sell merchandise on tours, take brand deals, maybe buy real estate, maybe have their own brand such as clothes, lingerie, make up, excise equipment., fragrance, etc.
I was a former record reviewer and writer for 4 publications in usa and Canada. Yes i know how the music industry works. I also read several books on other aspects od the music industry. Hitmen is a good book. Your explanation at the end is partly why prince and george michael tried to get out of their contracts.
This video is very accurate. 💯👏🏽 I’ve seen countless videos about celebs either struggling financially or not being able to afford their lifestyle. This has been going on since the beginning of the music industry in the 50’s. You will never be richer than the label that signed you. Trophies & accolades doesn’t mean you will be rich.
I like your channel. Please do one on the richest self made women in America, the youngest female billionaires, and some female entrepreneurs who are making millions or billions of dollars from their companies.
At the end of the day it’s the artist’s decision and while it may be more difficult to make it big without a label but it’s not impossible. If you decide to work with labels, make sure you read your contracts & make sure you know what you’re getting yourself into. I wish you the best of luck in your career!
I definitely feel like there’s a lot more I don’t know about the music industry. A lot more deeper issues out there. Thank you so much, I appreciate the support!
The Music Industry is finished. The whole industry needs a whole new make over and a new way to do business. Hopefully, to do things in a much efficient and simpler way. The industry needs to burn away and start anew. It’s too corrupt and abused. The quality of the music today needs to be improved. Today, the music sounds awful and the songwriting is atrocious. One doesn’t need all of these writers and all of these producers!! It’s outrageous. They did not have this when I was growing up. There were shady and nasty deals but nothing like today. Today, they just want something fast, “hooky” and cheap. Disposable. Sucks and so does the result. The artists today just do not have good songwriting chops. They may have great technique and command of their instrument but the actual writing is not there. Labels do not want to take chances and risks with artists as they used to. They used to let the artist grow and mature. Not anymore. It’s all about fast cash!! And barely any substance.
Music pays VERY well it’s just that people are preyed upon, ignorant, lazy, or don’t care. Because if they looked at these record contracts, read some books on the industry, watched TH-cam video, and hired good entertainment lawyers they would know this isn’t a good deal but would be better to do it on your own.
As a person who has been in the industry forever, it amazes me that artists will spend so much time and effort researching about their craft and skip over the 2 minutes of googling that will tell you how bad signing to a major label is and how little streaming pays if you are not Drake.
I thought most people nowadays were aware that brand deals and touring and festivals is where the money is at for the majority of music artists. Unless you own your music, have writing/producing credits on most of your music and it really sells, you’re not getting a lot of money out of the music itself. At least most contracts aren’t quite as predatory as they once were.
I'ts not normal / common though to end a billionaire from just music or movies. A multi millionaire from entertainment is quite good . Taylir Swift seems to genuinely love making music and touring , so thats what she devotes herself to .I dont think she could be as successful a songwriter / musician if she was also trying to found a skincare/ makeup line .She wouldnt be able to prioritise music as much
I think the loan analogy is one sided and doesn't fully capture the fact that labels take losses on thousands of artists who actually never make the money back. If anything labels are more like Venture Capitalists giving a startup money to operate and find a market and then recovering their money if a startup blows up. If labels were giving out loans they would also be adding interest on artist contracts - which has rarely been the case. That artists fail to invest the time to understand these subtle differences is why they also get in trouble financially 😂😂😂
Doja was always signed by the way they made her look not signed to market her. The industry needs to just sign people who already have a fanbase or just quit and give up. It’s a loss and probably most of the labels are money laundering and have the artists do other work for money. Music makes money but not the way this industry works. The artists are just paid performers not really artists. They need too many people to make the record good. The money is split too many ways. They are all having an image to maintain that costs too much.
I think for a lot of middle class people, and the working class…..we see all celebrities as money grabbers, when in reality it’s these industries, executives as well as CEO’s, basically the top 1% who’s getting the big checks. I mean we all saw the SAG-AFTRA strikes, even though it was for actors and actresses….it still shines a light on how not everything in Hollywood is glitz and glamour. Now, not every artist out there is going broke and is creating makeup/skincare brands because they need the money…..a lot of them just genuinely love the beauty world and wanna try it out. However, this shows us that even some celebrities and artists struggle too. Also Aubrey O’Day didn’t need to disrespect Addison and Danielle like that. Let’s remember something…..Addison never acted for the life she’s living now, nor did she demand for it….shes talked about it so many times in the last that she only did TikTok for fun, she never intended for any fake to happen. Then with Danielle “Bhad Bhabie” Aubrey wants to say that she has no talent meanwhile…..she was the youngest rapper to hit the billboard hot 100, and even received a Billboard Music Award nomination. Um….you have to have some type of talent for anything like that to happen. I think Aubrey is just jealous to two girls who are much younger than her, were able to do that and she probably didn’t reach peak success until her 20’s….plus, she’s not as well known anymore unlike Danielle, and Addison.
this is nothing new, my parents would be telling me this has been happening since the beginning of time, majority of artist make their money off of tours, sponsorships, merch, and collabs that they do but most of the time they are either still living at home or they are broke just like the rest of us having to do stuff they don't want to do in order to stay relevant and hot and to stay in that scam train to make money it's such a horrible dirty game tbh
A smart artist in my opinion is nle chopper, he made an llc as a recording studio so he can record in his home studio and they would bill the record company under this llc so he can get his max amount of money.
Is this also factored in by the fact that fans don't by the music itself either? Because the artists that actually have fans buying albums are artists like Taylor swift and BTS and such... Is this a contribution factor or am i not too informed? What do you think?
I never bought a mcdonalds meal from celebrities because i dont usually eat those things. Ive only bought a happy meal with plain hamburger a few times because i wanted a toy. Then i found out i can buy the toy without the meal.
Rihanna didn't make her own company- she was approached by LVMH to be the face and yes have some creative control. She doesn't even own the majority stake.
Yeah, their net worth is EVERYTHING they made/own minus whatever they owe. It’s the *actual value of investments including homes, collectibles, stocks, and streaming sales
I played in a band in the 80s ,, did it for fun not money ,, but when you do not have any talent and the auto tune does all the work what would be the motivation to create ,, I play guitar and cannot wait to play live so others can hear what I me created not what a cold corporation created ,, ,, these people depend on others to make it not themselves
We ALL get loans that we have to pay back with interest and have to work our butts off to be debt free. Thats just life in every profession. You dont like it , go independent.
I get that you big up the folks who get the sponsorships but that shit don’t have no longevity, once it’s all said n done I’m not going to be watching their advertising videos, music lasts and if they can’t cut records that move ppl they’ll be forgotten in time
The cult of celebrity worship has indeed gotten out of hand and some of you folks are so lost in Your religion, it’s sickening…. These aren’t talented people no need to get mad if they are here one day and broke the next… 🤦🏽♂️ stop worshipping these people and maybe one day, they will all go away! 🙏
Check out my Frank Ocean video about how he scammed the record label industry!
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calling us broke , bums & lazy for so many years😂
I remember how SHOOOK everyone was when Rihanna launched Fenty and dark foundation was literally so unheard of
It was so groundbreaking. She really had all these other cosmetics brands scrambling to compete after she launched it!
She did good .
Not only that, even the lightest shade too which received positive reviews from people who have albinism
this always makes me laugh so hard because it’s the bare fucking minimum 💀
Fashion fair exists for darker shades.
This what I be telling people. Yeah they rich to us but not amongst their peers
You’re right!
they’re rich people broke😭
Correct! 💯🥴
I mean you could owe 1 million in bills and only have 900k to pay them. You still broke just at a higher budget.
Good evening: It's sad the Music Industry is doing this to these artists. This is partly why these artists start (skincare, makeup) lines. They need that cash..!! This shows you don't need to be signed to anything to be a artist..!! The industry is so shady makes no sense. Great video 🙂🙂
Hi there, I totally agree! The record label system was definitely designed to make it difficult for artists & we’ve seen it happen where a lot of labels just drop their artists once they are done with them. They treat them like products & not real humans. Thanks so much for the support. 😊
They treat these artists like puppets it’s awful
Well just to let you know….some of these artists didn’t start fragrance, skincare, and makeup lines because they needed money….some of them genuinely just wanted to try something different and new for them. I mean if that was the case that they simply needed money…..all of their products would be at a much higher price than what they are. Take Rare Beauty, now that launched in September 2020 but….makeup lines actually take a few years to come out which means Selena was definitely working on it back in like 2017-2019. If Selena truly needed the money at that point, she would’ve had all her products be priced pretty high from what they currently are which is the $20’s-$30’s range……that’s pretty affordable from $30-$40 which is the price range for most of the makeup brands out there.
It doesn’t, because most artists would never be famous or make money without a labels investment and connections. If anything it shows you can be a starving artist
@@tiamarrow6366 that’s not how it works. If you know you’re gonna sell 100 thousand products you know you don’t need to charge a lot. Doesn’t mean they don’t need the money otherwise why would they charge
As an independent, up-and-coming artist myself, this video gave me an idea to start my own label! Thank you for this informative inside look into the music industry! Please make more videos on Chance the Rapper and Frank Ocean! I would love to know the steps to their massive financial success as an independent artist! Thank you! New subscriber! 🥰
Hi there, I’m definitely working on a Frank ocean video soon! And that sounds amazing I’m wishing you the best in your career. 💜
If you did, I’d try and sign with you!!
@@hollytrumpler4146 Wow! I’m so honored that you would want to sign to my label when I create it! Out of curiosity, what exactly motivates you to want to sign with me? Thank you so much for your input! 🥰
Go to the website daylle deanna schwartz and look at the books she wrote for the music industry.
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Yup… I love how Chloe broke it down , she basically told the truth
She sounded so eloquent too
Not surprising. I remember watching a deep dive on kpop contracts a few years ago, and the lable wont even show them their quotas, and even add things like classes and surgeries to keep them in debt and in or resign the contract.
I remember Billie eilish wrote in one of her song something along the lines of what once was a fun hobby is noe a borinf job. That goes for any career, honestly. But it must be harder if youre contractually obligated to produce something in a certain amount of time. Quantity over quality.
Even content creators have spoken about how they make more money selling merchandise over monetization on their videos.
Oh that surgery point is true and insane even K pop actresses and actors are sometimes required to go under the knife for a movie
@@sakuraesther6309sometimes ? They went all under the knife😅 Even the males
Artists can either be famous and broke or grind it out underground and make half a million year with small shows, merch, smaller brand deals and 100% of the royalties from their music and COMPLETE creative freedom. But that fame is too enticing.
21 Savage, Chance the Rapper & Tyler the Creator got it right and are thriving.
With Tyler, Chance and 21, they all made sure they have good recording contracts (e.g.: 21 owning his masters). Bad recording contracts are still a thing unfortunately😢
Yes
Russ also but the main thing is stop taking advances.
Agreed
This makes me concerned about VCHA, JYP's newest girl group that is from America and co signed with Republic Records. The group is mainly made up of minors and I saw they were binded to a 20 year contract with Republic Records. I honestly don't think they're gonna have that longevity because most kpop contracts end after 7 years. It will be interesting to see how they do in the US.
Omg that’s insane! I know Kpop industry itself has a whole lot of dark issues. Lots of overworked & burnt out artists getting paid dust. I’ve never heard of VCHA but I’ll definitely check them out now😌
Source? I’ve never heard of a 20 year contract before.
Yeah same where did you get that from because thats crazy long
Omg 20 years????
@@Desiludildoit’s pretty common in america, paramounts lead singer recently talked about her own 20 year contract ending recently after she signed it when she was 14
The music industry was NEVER meant for artists to get rich so, if they do not know how to market themselves they will inevitably go broke.
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But think someone’s going to allow a gang stalking campaign against themselves to break down barriers in a wack Industry lmao I want these frauds to leave me tf alone & go play with their pups. Nothing makes their behavior make sense but being BROKE 🤷🏿♀️
They harass people at 9-5 & play with their bag because they are jealous of that too. They need to pay back their loans & stfu
@Krissy-u8dI believe it! Also, they’ve shown this to us plenty of times and movies as well. Predictive programming and all
CORRECT! 💯‼️ We have seen it many many times. That’s why if I ever got into the industry I would work behind the scenes bc that’s where the real money is. The artists are just the face of the label.
Labels get these artists in debt on purpose. Chloe should’ve never signed a deal
i remember when i saw that announcement, i wrote on their yt post that i hope they have people watching the money, etc. i think they were just enamored of beyonce.
@@orangemoonglows2692I think beyonce gave them a small deal so that if they ever wanted to leave it wouldn’t be hard to pay back the 1 million advance. both chloe and halle could easily come up with 500k each if they needed to
right they literally do what alot of these universities do make everything u need expensive. so u take out loans that u end having to pay them back
That is a choice she made when she was noticed for her talent. She wasn’t gang stalked & harassed to be where she’s at
@@eyeamphree3337still intentionally deceptive and misleading for young artists
Selena doing her thang cause I have an palette of hers and I been using it everyday for my everyday looks and her blush is so pigmented like a little goes a long way
@@amazingunreleasedalbums She not that controversial compared to Doja Cat and ms. E. T go home moving in with Slappy the dummy 😭
* a palette*
@@canesugar911 I bet you're fun at functions 👀
@Moviesondemandtv When did I say she was??? And she's victimized sometimes people be hating on her just to hate her sometimes but other times I can agree
Also her concealer. One drop will go all the way.
I think what makes people mad about Selena is that she proves that's not the amount of talent you have it's about what you make of the talent you do have . She makes the best of what talents she has, and understand why her fans are drawn to her, it's that simple.
Exactly, like playing victim and support online hate..
@@Viviano_Magami I very much dislike that side of her.
AND her dad owns the production company 🤑😺
@@Viviano_Magami pretty much dear, it is what it is. Though, my unpopular opinion about that saga was that I was team no one.
And also her drama with Hailey Beiber and Justin beiber .Every tims there is a drama btw them there is always a follow uo rare ad or a new movie or a new Selena Album .
I hope tinashe stays independent, Songs for you, 333 and bbangel are cohesive bodies of work and great rnb music. Her latest work bbangel is very experimental and cool. RCA tried desperately to make her fit into a popstar mold and gave her a bad rollout for her album Joyride. She’s got decent streaming numbers too
She is extremely talented and underrated! And I know RCA has got a bad reputation for being a bad label to a lot of their artists. I hope she stays independent and sticks to her own style of music & not what other people want for her.
PREACH!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
That's why rihanna selena and ariana have a beauty brand.
And they’re all killing it in the beauty business too!
@@Keliforniamedia So why did you say they're going broke if they literally have a beauty brand?
@@loved3165 I’m not calling those particular artists broke-they definitely are A listers with a lot more money than other celebrities. The video is about how the music industry/record labels leaves artists in debt & most of the famous artists we see don’t really get paid a lot. A lot of these artists don’t make as much money from music as we perceive. Hence, that’s why they establish their own beauty brands, businesses, clothing lines, sponsors, etc. They make more money doing outside things.
I don’t know about Selena or Ariana and their finances, but Rihanna was almost bankrupt and her record contract was not the best either and this happened before the ‘Anti’ album era.
Not every artist and even actress/actor who has a makeup brand, fragrance brand, or skincare brand has one because they’re broke. I mean think about it….you have to actually have the money to create one if you’re not already working with another brand, who wants to collab with you and just slap your face and name on their products. Selena most definitely had the money to create Rare Beauty, and she never collaborated with any makeup brands to make it happened…Her brand has its own website, and it’s in Sephora. In order for an artist to have a makeup brand, they have to have the money to get started. So Selena definitely had the money for it back in 2017-2019 to work on ig, and then in 2020 to finally launch it. Plus, something to really take into consideration….none of it is free. You need to pay people to go out there and source the ingredients to make the products (some ingredients are rare to find and source, making them a bit more pricey) then you need to pay to have the products created, pay for the packaging, pay for the shipping and storage….while it might not cost a whole lot all together….it still costs. You can’t create and have a makeup brand, unless things are paid for.
Whenever I hear about how little artists make and how they have to take on multiple streams of income that have nothing to do with their music, I think back to when TLC wrote "No Scrubs" like "If you have no car and you're walkin', if you live at home with your mama," only to turn around and tell everybody "We are as broke as can be." That was my first red flag about how the music industry treats artists.
That’s pretty much like the “average” American worker these days
No Scrubs came after that Broke speech which was in 1996.
Makes me want to continue being an independent musician
Do not join the music industry!!! The tools you need for success are available to you without a music label! Don’t let anyone tell you what you can and can’t sing. Monetize your voice by yourself but don’t give it to anyone to manipulate.
It’s true, artist don’t get paid what they deserve almost ever. But you can’t forget to subtract.
They get million dollar loans to be the star they want yet still can’t manage to budget without crashing out 😢
this is why being an independent artist is better you pay your way upfront but you can pick and choose HOW you spend your money when producing a single or a album you learn how record yourself and save a TON of money. A lot labels actually are money laundering to other a bunch recording studios in LA im a producer and seen a lot of things gone down.
It’s an unfortunate reality today. It’s a tough situation
Isn’t Meg independent now? Good for her 😊
She is now officially
Thought she was on roc nation
Her deal is unique she independent but all her marketing is done by donation so she owns her music.
I’m glad I’m an independent artist, I don’t feel the need to be signed to a major label and get my creativity stripped away from me by people in high positions who control everything I do.
Why is Selena Gomez in there? her networth is 800 million. And its not because she's just a popstar, its because of her businesses outside of singing, that and because she is an actress.
You clearly didn’t watch the video
net worth isn't how much money you actually make
she’s an example of one of the artists who started her own business outside of music. If you watch she’s after Rihanna since Selena created rare beauty which did so well!
Her music don't sell like that no more. She has to depend on her makeup brand and show to stay afloat cuz she not making money doing music.
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The Frank Ocean analysis video would eat
Ahhh I’m working on it currently. it’ll be soon🤭
@@Keliforniamedia Aight lemme subscribe then
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(Formally known as Karmin) is another good example of an artist who left the industry to become independent.
Omg I totally remember her! I remember her & Nick in Karmin, Broken-hearted & Crash your party were my favorites. I did see she started rapping now, she’s always been so talented. Good for her for going independent!
She's doing really well as far as becoming well know, she's one of Mt faves
I listen to her sometimes.
I hadn’t paid much attention to the label, so I didn’t know she used to be signed.
She’s super talented. I’m glad she got out.
I believe the biggest problem aren't the industry execs; it's us and the internet. Most of us (myself included) don't BUY artists' music anymore, or at least no where near as much as before, because we can just hear and stream them for free. It's no wonder artists have to scramble like this to make any real money.
Whose fault is that? Tell em to get a real job & stop using their popularity to harass people for not buying their music
Some these artists is a cash grab but and their product sucks Rihanna is a true icon she understands the quality just to not throw it out and stamp her name on it she has on of the best beauty brand also Ariana as well the products are well done and made ppl following the Rihanna strategy they see her being so successful and a self made billionaire that they trying to do the same but I’m afraid to many are doing it now ppl catching on as for the McDonald’s brand Travis Scott has one of the best celebrity meals every one else didn’t have nothing special but they made money it also got to do who u are as well this is a very good video on this subject yes the industry is definitely money hungry
I agree! I’ve been using Rihanna’s products for 6 years now since she launched her line-great quality. I appreciate that she understands quality & inclusivity.
Eh I wouldn't put Ariana in it cause her first launch seemed like she didn't put any effort cause I bought one of her gel eyeshadows that were like $40 cause I trusted the Ulta workers input andddd I got scammed cause it dried up so quick
Punctuation is important
@@ZionDoesMakeup omg I did hear some people reviewed her brand and it wasn’t the best quality. I haven’t used one of her products but I do have a lot of her perfumes.
@@Keliforniamedia Yeah chileee it was real bad not only did it dry up quick but it started getting chunky and clumpy mind you I was using it for my bday look so that irritated me
Thats why they sell merchandise on tours, take brand deals, maybe buy real estate, maybe have their own brand such as clothes, lingerie, make up, excise equipment., fragrance, etc.
This ain’t nothing new. All these folks probably just didn’t believe it would happen to them.
Left Eye explained it real good back in the day....also Toni Braxton was another one from way back when
I was a former record reviewer and writer for 4 publications in usa and Canada.
Yes i know how the music industry works. I also read several books on other aspects od the music industry.
Hitmen is a good book.
Your explanation at the end is partly why prince and george michael tried to get out of their contracts.
If they don't have the money, they are not at that level. Being famous is not the same as being financially successful.
I remember when TLC said how broke they where and how the owed money back to the company
This video is very accurate. 💯👏🏽 I’ve seen countless videos about celebs either struggling financially or not being able to afford their lifestyle. This has been going on since the beginning of the music industry in the 50’s. You will never be richer than the label that signed you. Trophies & accolades doesn’t mean you will be rich.
I like your channel. Please do one on the richest self made women in America, the youngest female billionaires, and some female entrepreneurs who are making millions or billions of dollars from their companies.
This is a Great and informative video! Subscribed😊
I my word i didnt know this!! This was rsally informative 👏
This video just convinced me to stay independent.
At the end of the day it’s the artist’s decision and while it may be more difficult to make it big without a label but it’s not impossible. If you decide to work with labels, make sure you read your contracts & make sure you know what you’re getting yourself into. I wish you the best of luck in your career!
You are new to music but ur content is too good. I hope u get viral for one of your videos , BOfLk
I definitely feel like there’s a lot more I don’t know about the music industry. A lot more deeper issues out there. Thank you so much, I appreciate the support!
The Music Industry is finished. The whole industry needs a whole new make over and a new way to do business. Hopefully, to do things in a much efficient and simpler way.
The industry needs to burn away and start anew. It’s too corrupt and abused.
The quality of the music today needs to be improved. Today, the music sounds awful and the songwriting is atrocious. One doesn’t need all of these writers and all of these producers!!
It’s outrageous. They did not have this when I was growing up. There were shady and nasty deals but nothing like today. Today, they just want something fast, “hooky” and cheap. Disposable.
Sucks and so does the result. The artists today just do not have good songwriting chops.
They may have great technique and command of their instrument but the actual writing is not there.
Labels do not want to take chances and risks with artists as they used to. They used to let the artist grow and mature. Not anymore. It’s all about fast cash!! And barely any substance.
Rhianna funny 😂 “who sent you?”
Selina Gomez isn’t as business focused? What! That sounds wild the girl is everywhere doing it all and staying humble.
Music pays VERY well it’s just that people are preyed upon, ignorant, lazy, or don’t care. Because if they looked at these record contracts, read some books on the industry, watched TH-cam video, and hired good entertainment lawyers they would know this isn’t a good deal but would be better to do it on your own.
As a person who has been in the industry forever, it amazes me that artists will spend so much time and effort researching about their craft and skip over the 2 minutes of googling that will tell you how bad signing to a major label is and how little streaming pays if you are not Drake.
I thought most people nowadays were aware that brand deals and touring and festivals is where the money is at for the majority of music artists. Unless you own your music, have writing/producing credits on most of your music and it really sells, you’re not getting a lot of money out of the music itself. At least most contracts aren’t quite as predatory as they once were.
Taylor swift has been one of the biggest stars on the planet for 15 years now and her net worth was only at $365m in 2020.
I'ts not normal / common though to end a billionaire from just music or movies. A multi millionaire from entertainment is quite good . Taylir Swift seems to genuinely love making music and touring , so thats what she devotes herself to .I dont think she could be as successful a songwriter / musician if she was also trying to found a skincare/ makeup line .She wouldnt be able to prioritise music as much
That's a lot of money 😂
@@lesedi3040 yes, it is a lot of money, but not as much as most would guess for an artist of her caliber at that point.
@@islandrebelmakeup4653what caliber ?
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whenever you Re-negotiate a deal they are giving you your own money to work with you just dont know it
She's engaged by the way 🎊 congrats 💍💎
Is not even the labels its the promotion companies.. radio promoters payola playlist payola blog payola .. a Real sacrifice
I think the loan analogy is one sided and doesn't fully capture the fact that labels take losses on thousands of artists who actually never make the money back.
If anything labels are more like Venture Capitalists giving a startup money to operate and find a market and then recovering their money if a startup blows up.
If labels were giving out loans they would also be adding interest on artist contracts - which has rarely been the case.
That artists fail to invest the time to understand these subtle differences is why they also get in trouble financially 😂😂😂
first time watching your channel. you did an amazing job in my opinion. new subscriber here 👋🏾
Thank you so much for the support I appreciate it! 💜
Doja was always signed by the way they made her look not signed to market her. The industry needs to just sign people who already have a fanbase or just quit and give up. It’s a loss and probably most of the labels are money laundering and have the artists do other work for money. Music makes money but not the way this industry works. The artists are just paid performers not really artists. They need too many people to make the record good. The money is split too many ways. They are all having an image to maintain that costs too much.
Amazing Video. Thank you.
I think for a lot of middle class people, and the working class…..we see all celebrities as money grabbers, when in reality it’s these industries, executives as well as CEO’s, basically the top 1% who’s getting the big checks. I mean we all saw the SAG-AFTRA strikes, even though it was for actors and actresses….it still shines a light on how not everything in Hollywood is glitz and glamour. Now, not every artist out there is going broke and is creating makeup/skincare brands because they need the money…..a lot of them just genuinely love the beauty world and wanna try it out. However, this shows us that even some celebrities and artists struggle too. Also Aubrey O’Day didn’t need to disrespect Addison and Danielle like that. Let’s remember something…..Addison never acted for the life she’s living now, nor did she demand for it….shes talked about it so many times in the last that she only did TikTok for fun, she never intended for any fake to happen. Then with Danielle “Bhad Bhabie” Aubrey wants to say that she has no talent meanwhile…..she was the youngest rapper to hit the billboard hot 100, and even received a Billboard Music Award nomination. Um….you have to have some type of talent for anything like that to happen. I think Aubrey is just jealous to two girls who are much younger than her, were able to do that and she probably didn’t reach peak success until her 20’s….plus, she’s not as well known anymore unlike Danielle, and Addison.
this is nothing new, my parents would be telling me this has been happening since the beginning of time, majority of artist make their money off of tours, sponsorships, merch, and collabs that they do but most of the time they are either still living at home or they are broke just like the rest of us having to do stuff they don't want to do in order to stay relevant and hot and to stay in that scam train to make money it's such a horrible dirty game tbh
ALot of it is the signing bonus they see the big number and sign without reading the contract. So for most artists they did it to themselves
praying blackpink doesn’t resign their contract
A smart artist in my opinion is nle chopper, he made an llc as a recording studio so he can record in his home studio and they would bill the record company under this llc so he can get his max amount of money.
Some of these people have no excuses and just simply have poor money management.
The label is putting all of that money in… do people expect that type investment with no return?
These artist aren’t getting paid dust
Is this also factored in by the fact that fans don't by the music itself either? Because the artists that actually have fans buying albums are artists like Taylor swift and BTS and such... Is this a contribution factor or am i not too informed? What do you think?
I never bought a mcdonalds meal from celebrities because i dont usually eat those things.
Ive only bought a happy meal with plain hamburger a few times because i wanted a toy. Then i found out i can buy the toy without the meal.
Great stuff. Peace and love
This is why it's important to live below your means. Expensive bills stay expensive no matter how much or little you make.
Michael Jackson said it☝🏽🙏🏽 Prince too
and both are gone, damn
@@cherrywineluxe facts🥺🙏🏽
Loved the video ❤
Um no. They paid Justin Timberlake for the rights to a song that he already created. It was not a 3 min jingle.
Rihanna didn't make her own company- she was approached by LVMH to be the face and yes have some creative control. She doesn't even own the majority stake.
That is so sad 😢 I am praying 🙏 for you all it is a blessing and a curse
what is net worth then? is that how much the artist has to pay back?
Yeah, their net worth is EVERYTHING they made/own minus whatever they owe. It’s the *actual value of investments including homes, collectibles, stocks, and streaming sales
Living beyond their means
Most American youth still aspire to become rappers, athletes, and influencers. Chinna graduates the most scientists and engineers.
This is kpop idols struggles too
there were kpop idols shown in the video
Pharrell and Pusha T also got a nice check for the I'm Lovin It McDonald's theme and Arby's
Influencers are making more than artists these days. Crazy times
Queen Aubrey ODay ❤
No wonder music doesn’t hit the same as it used to. Rarely anyone making music to make music. They just want that coin and brand deals.
and pay back loan
Wasn’t that “I’m Lovin It” ad written by Pusha T?
I think with the rise of the MP3 the music industry began to fall .
Had no idea these labels was pimpn and scamming like dat
Can we talk about b5 & badboy?
What's the name of the song in the background?
TLC & PRINCE HAVE SAID YEARS AGO
The music industry has always been this way.
I love Justin Timberlake’s I’m loving it MacDonalds jingle.
Aubrey kept it a bean
Yea.... Its always been this way..
Just like a record deal LVMH is taking its cut from FENTY. Even though its more lucrative.
Chole better learn from her brother in law and pick up a camera and start the vlogs! DDG was a multimillionaire before he started to make music!
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I played in a band in the 80s ,, did it for fun not money ,, but when you do not have any talent and the auto tune does all the work what would be the motivation to create ,, I play guitar and cannot wait to play live so others can hear what I me created not what a cold corporation created ,, ,, these people depend on others to make it not themselves
We ALL get loans that we have to pay back with interest and have to work our butts off to be debt free. Thats just life in every profession. You dont like it , go independent.
I get that you big up the folks who get the sponsorships but that shit don’t have no longevity, once it’s all said n done I’m not going to be watching their advertising videos, music lasts and if they can’t cut records that move ppl they’ll be forgotten in time
My family being from LA always knew about this. Just goes to show you all that glitters isn’t gold.
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The cult of celebrity worship has indeed gotten out of hand and some of you folks are so lost in Your religion, it’s sickening…. These aren’t talented people no need to get mad if they are here one day and broke the next… 🤦🏽♂️ stop worshipping these people and maybe one day, they will all go away! 🙏
MY family was the first to market black female make up the first ever!!!!
You don't make much, if anything, from touring, usually.
Celebrity brands are actually failing