and they had the audacity to just overwrite ow1 with ow2. Feel scamed in so many ways from blizzard. (I payed also 50€ for the starter pack of ow2 in belive the pve would cost money and i can buy it now beforehand with some extra skins!). Fuck them.
Which makes absolutely no sense because WHY is Porsche trying to advertise to OW players? Do they think that most of us can afford a Porsche? Idiocy from them AND the OW higher ups.
OverWatch had the potential to be what marvel comics were back in the day. They could have been modern day superheroes, beacons of virtue and role models to look to for inspiration. Instead they've all been reduced to cash grabs.
@@absolute-xero7502he’s right though, the worst part is that you still see little pushes of passion but like 80% of it sucks and over shadows the whole game sadly
@@gamerbeast3616 literally lost everything that made the game special, no events, no cool story, no cinematics, no feel sometime something will happen. game has no soul
OW2 now is still much better than launch OW2, and better than the last years of OW1. It's not much of a husk anymore, it's coming into its own after two years of work now.
Yeah same here, I have the preorder widow skin from 2016 but I haven't played OW2 since season 8. It's just depressing to see how bad they ruined the game just so they could manipulate all the new players and people with no self control into paying for insanely overpriced skins. It's been uninstalled all this time and it will stay that, I doubt even 6v6 will bring me back at this point as it's actually depressing to even look at the game at this point. Like even if I wanted to play it, I mained tank so the gameplay experience itself is just so much worse I couldn't even have a fraction of the amount of fun I had in 1.
There is no content, any plans for that got put in the recycle bin with pve. Blizzard is well aware that people will just keep buying skins so why bother making content?
I think it's crazy that they made an in-house collab, 2 Blizzard IP's, but they still had the audacity to make a recolor of a skin. Not only was the original skin free, they're going to now charge $20-$30 for a recolor or a previously free skin too. It feels so greedy and so low effort
The original skin wasn’t free iirc. It was available via loot boxes. But, I understand what you mean. I have the OG skin and laughed when I saw that they’re releasing a recolor.
@@MicDubTV i mean, the diamond magni skin is an insanely important piece of lore, so for people like me (I have over 650 days of logged time on my main) it all makes sense. I think the thrall zen skin is week, but Magni's skin is good if you play WoW
@MicDubTV I mean it was absolutely free. I owned pretty much everything Overwatch 1 had to offer, and I only spent money once, and that was to actually buy the game.
Guys, can we give the multidollar company a break? They're just an indie studio. I, for one, am proud of what they have accomplished with their small budget.
@@KingArthur101As much as Overwatch is a joke now, you can’t get away with spreading misinformation without consequence. The McCree guy wasn’t even on the OW team to begin with. He was on Diablo. Aaron Keller was never a part of those abhorrent stories either. In fact, the OW team was the cleanest when it came to the Blizz scandal. Most of it was on the COD teams & WoW teams. This is widely reported. So, stop talking out of your ass.
@@gamerbeast3616 true, but it's not really flourishing either. They're just cycling between heroes, maps, and skins; there isn't anything standout or feeling passionate about.
Rewatching that Blizzard World trailer from Overwatch 1 just reminded me of how much of their magic Blizzard has actually lost. Overwatch 2 is just a husk of what Overwatch used to be. I used to get excited for events like that. Now I just ignore it knowing damn well I'm not spending $20 for one skin and that there are no fun events or challenges tied to it.
Logging into the game in december 2018 to see the christmas wonderland menu with the music, looking at all the new christmas/holiday skins in game to figure out which ones I wanted to grind for over the month and whatever one was my favorite was the one I was going to use my dupe coins on first. Now you log on and the event is paying 40 dollars for whatever new christmas mercy skin is in the shop. Last year you had to pay for a christmas battlepass that had a free skin from ow1 in it as a premium reward. What an absolute souless cashgrab the game is now.
So true. Like, why in the hell would I ever spend 20 bucks for one skin for one character when i could get two battlepasses for that price or even a bunch of indie/old games with that money. I'm fine with them monetizing their game, but the prices they charge for skins is absolutely absurd. Every time I see a new season or event's skins im like, wow cool but im not spending fucking 20 bucks. So its basically meaningless for the average person who isn't a stupid whale that happily buys whatever slop blizzard gives them.
Blizz too busy making useless Hero Mastery trials which no one asked for or even needs. Not even a WoW inspired PvE mission for the event, says it's all really...
I'm convinced they've finally added the option to try out in Practice Range any of the currently available skins only so they don't need to make a new mode showcasing the new skins every season.
I think hero mastery is a fine idea for new players, but it should have come out complete for all the then-present characters ON LAUNCH, not a year after the supposed "sequel" has already been out.
Wait, they're still making them? I genuinely thought they already finished them all and they're just sitting on them, periodically releasing them considering that whole team got fired
they are not even making hero mastery shit, one new course every season, ja, they really think anyone will play that shit beyond the first day after getting 5 stars?
We can dislike the direction of the game all we want, but the unfortunate reality is that people are throwing money at these skins and it's not at all failing
@soapbiter36577 it might be a financial success (I doubt it, all those years of OW2 development was expensive, as was scrapping the league), however it is a cultural and artistic failure.
Overwatch 2 isn't about the game or how it's played anymore. Its about selling skins and battle passes to make a profit. Its a hollow shell of what it used to be and its genuinely sad to see.
They literally shoved the actual fans away and got rid of their game to bank on whales for a cash grab. What you see is because people (players/customers) have no dignity and no self control with their money. They are the reason we get a lackluster shell of a product.
@@burni988 Let me give you a brief elementary-level economics lesson. A lackluster product is introduced by a businessman, idiots with no self control buy said product, greedy businessman sees oodles of dollar signs, so greedy businessman keeps doing the same thing and even doubling down on it, because idiots keep spending their money on what keeps getting offered. So while it is a greedy person introducing what to buy, it's ultimately the customer that has no self control and dignity that keeps giving in and fueling this insanity. "Corporate greed" is not the root cause. It is people that don't know how to be good customers and people that don't know how to stand up for themselves financially and stay "no." Voting with your wallets is the only way to talk to businessmen. That means not buying lackluster products when they are presented. Demand more by talking with money and the consumer will start getting treated better.
@@burni988 Let me give you a brief economics lesson. A lackluster product is introduced by a businessman, consumers with no self control buy said product, greedy businessman sees oodles of dollar signs, so greedy businessman keeps doing the same thing and even doubling down on it, because consumers keep spending their money on what keeps getting offered. So while it is a greedy person introducing what to buy, it's ultimately the customer that has no self control and dignity that keeps giving in and fueling this insanity. "Corporate greed" is not the root cause. It is people that don't know how to be good customers and people that don't know how to stand up for themselves financially and stay "no." Voting with your wallet is the only way to talk to businessmen. That means not buying lackluster products when they are presented. Demand more by talking with money and the consumer will start getting treated better.
@@burni988 Let me give you a brief economics lesson. A lackluster product is introduced by a businessman, consumers with no self control buy said product, businessman sees oodles of dollar signs, so businessman keeps doing the same thing and even doubling down on it, because consumers keep spending their money on what keeps getting offered. So while it is a greedy person introducing what to buy, it's ultimately the customer that has no self control that keeps giving in and fueling the businessman. "Corporate greed" is not the root cause. It is people that don't know how to be good customers and people that don't know how to stand up for themselves financially and say "no." Voting with your wallet is the only way to talk to businessmen. That means not buying lackluster products when they are presented. Demand more by talking with money and the consumer will start getting treated better.
It's a little heartbreaking to see what the world of Overwatch has become. I stuck with it through the shift to OW2 up until around season 8 and haven't kept up with the updates to it since. It has such an incredible world and characters that could have truly become something great. We'd all wait for the new cinematics or trailers. We'd all get emotional, sometimes even cry. We *cared* about these characters and what they were going through. I still go back to watch the cinematics on occasion even though I don't play any more. This needs to be studied in the future on courses, it's kind of wild how rapidly it went down the drain and how willingly Blizzard destroyed the IP.
I quit playing right around Moira drop. She just killed the game for me and I had been a day 1 superfan. Because Overwatch still had a lot of hype around it and cultural pull, I would watch the cinematics or whatever and keep up with the game even though I wasn't really playing anymore. I thought the idea of the PVE thing was neat and looked forward to it, maybe that would get me back into the game, but that went out the window didn't it. Overwatch 2 is a disaster to me. I went back and watched the original trailer and the 2 gameplay trailers and I felt genuinely emotionally devastated over that game and all that came with it being gone forever. I almost cried. I watched all the older cinematics and had goosebumps. What did we lose that game for? For what?
It's really sad that even Fortnite has a stronger narrative than Overwatch these days. Even the people that popularized the whole battle pass and skins as revenue system realized that their game still needed narrative continuity to maintain its players long-term
It's worth noting that with Fortnite the battle pass ALWAYS comes with enough currency to buy the next battle pass if you finish it which to me is what separates a consumer friendly battle pass from a predatory one.
I never understood why they had to remove so much content in the game to release OW2. 2cp was bad at times, but still was a gamemode. They didnt even allow us to try it in the 5v5 format. Instead lets remove all these 2cp maps that are memorable/complete. This makes the devs not have to come up with any new ideas. Then, release them as knockoff 5cp maps. This is just one example of regurgitating content. Sad. Really.
It was a map design issue. Instead, they just scrapped the whole gamemode. All they had to do was make the spawn room distance for defenders on 2nd point be longer.
2cp was fine it was just the fact that blizzard just made the entire game mode about getting through a chokepoint. Literally look at all the maps in OW and notice how many of them are just *spawn and push through a choke*. It's actually insane they were allowed to get away with that disgustingly lazy map design.
So much was removed. Level system, player borders, in game lfg, easily obtainable free loot boxes, match end screen voting thing, an entire set of beloved maps. They even made the play of the game music worse.
@@snipingwayI played the beta, Its honestly just as fun as overwatch. Sure not as high quality as overwatch but very fun, fairly more balanced and heroes are more known compared to overwatch heroes. Like who doesn’t want to play as venom? Or any other cool marvel hero?
@@richardespinoza9989 Marvel heroes are actually a massive negative for me, personally. & It looked kind of clunky and like there was a lot of visual clutter. Besides that, I don't really trust the company that made it. But that's me, its cool that you enjoyed it.
@@snipingway no worries, I understand its not gonna be for everyone. Overwatch is still a first person fps and marvel is third person. They aren’t exactly the same, just the way they play out. I do highly recommend trying it out if you haven’t though. It’s gonna be free to play so it doesn’t hurt to try it out. I am personally burnt out from overwatch and really want to play something that gives me the same high and feels fresh so what better game to play than marvel rivals?
I mean.. I know no one wants to hear the truth but the reason is very obvious, isn't it? She is just not attractive therefore her skins doesn't sell. There is no reason for Blizzard to allocate their resources to make skins for Zarya when they can make skins for Kiriko/Mercy/Dva (you know, the attractive ones) with the same resources and make 10 times more money.
@@ヴァイス-m2p See I try to tell people the same thing in Genshin impacts community. But the Global players seem to think theres an untapped Market of Chinese players who Desperately want to purchase Black Characters. I just get called a Racist so what I say never processed as a thought.
Unfortunately some of us go back for the nostalgia, to visit the characters and places we miss. Won't give them a cent for the stupid overpriced skins or crap filled passes, and then I go back to playing other stuff where the devs still actually care.
killing the pve, and even gutting the old pve theyve removed the entire carrot and want us to just chase a $20 wire attatched to a stick we were all so invested with the universe of overwatch...well that died
@TheHellsingHQ forget it, the person you're replying to is one of the skin whales that ruined the game. He probably plays the game one handed so he can jack it to Mercy skins.
@@sumisu_senpai_6280 Haha I don't care for skins but OW2 is great! What other game is like OW2? I think that most people who complain just have personal issues or something in their life. They want a game to fix their life lol
Overwatch is a thriller bark zombie. A reanimated corpse with someone else's soul stuffed into it. The soul of overwatch is somewhere else wanting to return 😢
The skins look great but the game is soulless and unplayable in 5v5. Celebrating my 8th month without logging in, and with the gameplay as it is, this is unfortunately very ignorable.
Jeff was part of the reason why OW began failing as an IP as it is. You people need to let the notion go that Jeff was this savior that we made him out to be. He was a major part of the problem & he also treated us like simpletons & gaslit us on a regular basis.
@MicDubTV nah they just fired the coach. They thought the 5v5 idea was better and it was not, clearly. Jeff might have been hard headed and wrong in some regards but there was premise to his actions.
Fr, Jeff was the "wall' From keeping the Suits from ruining the game and its life in it, even since he left looked what happened. The Game Took a HARD Nosedive.
My question is: if the people who create the skins say "we aren't responsible for the game, we only put visually appealing stuff in the game", and the game recieves almost nothing besides it, then what do all other people on the overwatch team do? Learn 3d modelling to make more skins??
They seriously need to stop screwing around and invest in an animated series and then release events and skins that correlate with the show to get people excited. They are sitting on a multi-million dollar IP, people who don’t even like video games or FPS like OW characters and there could be even more past that. God feed us, Blizzard.
A major reason for OW1's success was that it was a game that even people who didn't like/weren't good at FPS games could play and they've completely destroyed that in ow2 specifically to appeal to the hardcore shooter crowd.
@@nickp8041at what point OW2 appeals to a hardcore crowd? All recently released heroes aren't as complex as DF/Ball or maybe Echo. The balance patch of season 9 with increasing TTK to appeal to NEW players.
@@gamerbeast3616No real development, every promise broken, new heroes launching with no skins, everything horribly overpriced....yes. Overwatch 2 IS a shitshow.
I understand the argument that the art team individual was making, that they're a whole different department from the rest of the Overwatch team, but at the end of the day, we haven't seen an animated short in over a year that actually pushed the story forward at all. July of last year to be precise, and as interesting as it was, it wasn't even the normal Overwatch 3D animated hyper polished stuff, it was a 2D animated video. I love it a lot, to be sure, but it's a far cry from what we are used to. Now we get a whole ass animated trailer for a bunch of boring ass skins from a game that isn't even overwatch related. Their priorities have clearly completely changed, and if the devs themselves can't see that, then the game is officially cooked.
the team making the cinematics is also a different team, they do the cinematics for all blizzard games even cop sometimes, wow and d4 both have expansions right now with tons of cinematics being made for in game and for marketing
The game died when the pve did. Should have never scrapped it. Base Overwatch would have always gotten stale. That’s inevitable for any game, that’s why Overwatch 2 should have been something different and more of a borderlands style game with story and lore. That’s what we were hoping for and once Jeff Caplan left it was over.
I'm actually relieved to have stopped playing overwatch. I was a player that finished every single battle pass from the first season to season 11, and I just cant keep going on the treadmill theyve made for us.
I feel the same way Sty, I've been playing since 2015/2016 as a Rein/Winton main I played quickplay, comp and arcade but the new lore and wanting to see the characters interact was what kept me playing, not through bloody empty voicelines but through cinematics, comics and finding secrets on new maps in custom lobbies, watching a brand new Overwatch cinematic release live at Blizzcon while in a discord call with friends was a feeling like no other particularly when Honour and Glory came out in 2017. Overwatch had a big impact in my life I started going to the gym because of Reinhardt and I've pursued a science degree in college partly because of Winston. I hate to see the monetary milking by corporate greed of a world that has meant so much to all of us. Cyberpunk got an anime that reinvigorated it, and some good patches. I would love to see a successful overwatch series, or at least something because if Overwatch 2 as a product is just some minute pointless lore for a new hero every few monthes and some new voicelines as an excuse to keep the game alive and sell overpriced collab skins then the game isn't worth any of our time and is an insult to the original creators vision for the world.
@@copiagueeagle warsong gulch is capture the flag but on a massive map with buffs you can get, and arathi basin is basically domination from COD but theres 5 total bases and you exponentially get more points for each base you own. Having all 5 ends the game in 30 seconds
What I hate about new skins is the fact that some heroes are non recognizable in those skins, which directly harms gameplay. When you can't detect which enemy hero you are fighting against in one glance (in a competitive online shooter) - this is a problem.
Sty you're talking about this now, but it was apparent like a year ago when the le serrafim collab was announced. they arent making their own game, they are just making a vehicle for their shop
i stopped caring about the game in terms of it being good a long time ago. i'll play it when i want to shoot things. skins arent exciting anymore, all i see is 30$ pixels that can be taken away when they have decided they made enough money and shut down the game, there is no new information about the characters no development of the story -- no story at all. everything about the game that kept it interesting is gone. the gameplay is OK, but they are now diluting it with these horrible game modes that seem more about wasting your time than winning a match. its super sad to see. i'll play when i want to shoot something, but thats about it now.
What's happened to Overwatch is it's a lazy cash grab. The game we got 8 years ago could be forgiven as proof-of-concept for a potential larger title, currently in the works of salvaging what was left of Titan. Nearly a decade later, it's still the same damn game with basically no real changes. Yeah, yeah - Role Queue, 5v5, new heroes and balance changes, etc. Woo-hoo. But the core game is still the same lazy, tired, low-effort PvP arena combat which barely passed must muster in the 90s. Apparently, the Overwatch team just aren't very good at game development, considering they pissed away three years failing to make even a low-effort PvE experience. So what we have now is a poor man's Fortnite. The game doesn't matter, the mechanics barely matter, new content doesn't matter. It's just skins. And not good skins, either. Let's throw in whatever garbage is popular at the time, and to hell with the game's theme, or art style, or world or story. Why not just throw in a Batman skin for Genji, a PewDiePie skin for Junkrart, maybe a Tron skin for Symmetra 'cause why the hell not. After all, nobody who plays Overwatch actually wants Overwatch. We apparently want it to be any other game than this, so keep throwing on these garbage skins that don't make any sense. As long as they sell, right. Let me put it this way, and imma walk away. Imagine a Jana Proudmore skin in Helldivers. That's Overwatch to me. Has been for years - a god damn clown show that the development team don't seem to care about, so why the hell should I?
I am so sad to see what overwatch has become. I get it’s just the industry and the business aspect is not something I am familiar with, but the reason why I got into overwatch was because of the lore and characters. Seeing overwatch slowly get less and less lore for the game and characters is just disappointing. And the scrapping of the story mode was just another nail in the coffin. Overwatch 2 just sounds pretentious. It’s a worse version of what it once was.
How unfortunate that Overwatch loss its identity has become a watered down Paladins. Paladins still gets updated and now has PvE and doesn’t rely on skins to keep people playing. I wouldn’t be surprised if Overwatch gets a card system in place too.
That Zen skin is baaaaaaaad lmao. Man, OW falls off more each month. I unironically believe that is true and is happening. I have a actually full friends list on battlenet, like I can't even add one more person. I'm at the point where I have to remove someone to add someone these days. And I almost never see anyone on my list playing OverWatch. But I still see a ton of people playing hearthstone, wow, classic wow, various Diablo games, even sometimes starcraft 2. But I so rarely see anyone on my massive friends list ever playing OverWatch. That is not how it used to be, but over the last year or so things have kind of moved that direction at least among my friends. I know my single friend list is not representative of any kind of larger population, but it just seems like no one I know is playing that game anymore. And I feel like something should be pointed out. So there's another blizzard game that everyone says is bad all the time. It's had a horrible reputation since about 2 months after it launched. That game is Diablo 4. You know the sad thing about blizzard in the current year? That game is in better shape both in terms of the actual gameplay and the health of the player base/ population who play it, than Overwatch 2 is. Think about that. That game, Diablo 4, gets memed and memed and memed on everywhere you go online. To be fair, some of the memeing has fallen off in the last few months as the game has moved away from its original launch date AND as the devs have patched up the game week after week after week... but for quite a while, Diablo 4 was the biggest embarrassment in AAA gaming. That game was trashed in terms of its reputation. But the devs pulled their heads out of their butts and actually improved the gameplay and *listened to players.* Imagine if they did that with Overwatch in 6v6. Just saying. Maybe there would come a day when we are only a few weeks away from a new Overwatch expansion, just like we are just a few weeks away right now from a Diablo 4 expansion. The game is in not a bad spot, and most of that is thanks to listening to the community for once. The OW team could take a page from other Blizzard teams' playbooks. The wow devs are listening to the community a lot more these days too. Especially classic. But also retail. It's kind of weird, as Team 4 used to give me the "they're listening and they care about us players and the game" vibe, but these days it's not the same. Compared to other WoW dev teams, team 4 these days feels more like the team full of elitist "up in their Ivory Tower, disconnected-from-your-average-gamer" type of devs. Which is not how I used to feel about team 4. I used to think that of the wow and Diablo teams, but NEVER the ow dev team. Times have changed, it seems. My how the turn tables! Jeff's absence really is unfillable. He was the man with the vision, the heart, and the passion. I know he pissed off the hardcore OverWatch players because he didn't want this game to be super hardcore and competitive. He knew it was a shooter, but he didn't want to make a game for only the sweats. He wanted to make a game that everybody would think about and want to log in and play. And that is diametrically opposed with a perfectly balanced, hyper-tuned competitive type of environment that a lot of the most hardcore OverWatch players desire. Jeff refused to give those people what they wanted, because he was busy giving all the rest of us a fun game for us. But when Jeff left, so did any hope of this game being for the masses. Now it is really just for the sweaty. What a shame. Might have been one of the most fun games I've ever spent time playing, but I just can't pick it up anymore. I just can't.
What are people even expecting? Heroes, maps, core game modes and skins are all the game even really needs If anything they should just be doing more of these and make seasons shorter to release new content quicker Be real who actually cares about these side event modes, you play them once and never touch them again, it’s very whatever content
I wish they'd spend some time working on the matchmaker. I get better games in QP typically than comp. There's always one person in every comp game that is performing so poorly their team can't carry them across the finish line. I don't remember the last balanced game I got in comp. It's always a slaughter either for or against you. Never anything remotely competitive.
You spend all your brainpower and skill for your rank to go DOWN from a tough win because statistically victory was somehow “expected” then get stomped and lose MORE rank because you were expected to easily win that, you win 1 out of like every 10 games from people leaving or throwing or sucking or smurfing and all for 10 FUCKING COMPETITIVE POINTS ON WINS ONLY WHEN THE COMP WEAPON SKINS COST 3000 POINTS. Not to mention they changed the comp currency and prevented people from obtaining the old currency then added like 4 other currencies like what??
The quality drop in everything with overwatch after the ""sequel"" is astonishing. New characters feel like random OCs and not real ppl in the universe, they get NO cosmetics, and speaking of cosmetics, skins and highlight intros have gotten SO bad its insane
I feel like OW2 may currently go down the same path Heroes of the Storm eventually did. There was a point where no new heroes dropped, updates started slowing down but skins were still being released, until they reached a point where it likely stopped being lucrative and HotS slowly died. OW2 has a much more active and stable player base judging by the number on Steam. It's much more established than HotS ever was, so I guess a lot of people are somewhat loyal to the game and the IP and whatever Blizzard is doing seems to work to some extent, at least if you consider the player count. I just wonder how long that will last. I'm only still playing Overwatch 2 with a couple of friends who still enjoy it and I wanna spend time with them online, other than that, I wouldn't touch it anymore, even more so now that Deadlock has arrived.
I only got it cos I'm one of the very few planning to get a Macan EV so I like to hear the "electric sports sound" (Porsche electric car configuration option) when flying
It's absolutely depressing to look at the original animated shorts like Recall, Dragons, Honor and Glory, Hero, etc. and then looking at the Le Sserafim advertisement
When I saw the trailer in the bottom corner I was like oh cool, this collab has probably been a long time coming, I wonder what it entails! Wait what.. is this really just skins? I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought wtf is that Zen skin. The only exciting thing is, does that skin give widow a bow? That would be kinda insane but I’m not sure they’d change a silhouette that drastically. (Obviously the enemy would still here the regular sniper shot as they don’t change audio cues for enemies for obvious reasons)
Adding a tournament UI and team (guilds?) for everyone could've incentivized organic events by fans and increase the popularity and activity by streamers, but for some unknown reason, in what 7 or 8 years? they have NOT done it, even thought we know they have the tools for it. These collabs are useless for the average player who wouldn't even think about paying for a skin if it cost over 10$ anyway
Stylosa, I miss your videos. Hell, I miss YourOverwatch and Overwatch Central too. You all used to put out such awesome content, reviewing new events, new maps, new heroes, strategy guides for playing X hero or Y map. I don't blame you all, I blame the developers of course, and the three-year content drought. But keep in mind, when you make a video, there will always be an audience for you!
Honestly, I blame Fortnite for this development in gaming in general. It took the idea of crossover IP and dialed it up to 11. And they made billions. That made every other company reevaluate their values. "Sure, having Lilith running around in Call of Duty doesn't make sense and ruins the immersion... But it'll make us $200 million in revenue, so we'll do it to appease shareholders. I mean, we don't play the game, why should we care?" Something like that
Crossovers in games are nothing new. Like take Marvel vs Capcom, a fighting game which is like 20 years old I believe. That game however has its own unique mechanics, characters and universe, MvC2 in particular was such an important game. I think youre right in fortnite seeming to start the whole crossover skin thing, and they made it so absurd. I havent kept up with fortnite but considering how terrible the company is, im not surprised if they made so much money from a few crossovers and just decided to keep bringing in different crossovers, getting so big that it somehow brought in universes and characters that make not a lick of sense for the game. Like how did Alien end up there? Lmao
the most alarming is that players would rather pay for skins they cant even see (other than emoting) instead of content.... it is literally appearance over personality lol
@@gamerbeast3616 well it's dead to most players it's just sad whales who are keeping this game alive I highly doubt people will be playing this game for years to come because of how bad the state of the game is
@@gamerbeast3616 Just because the game is still in service doesn't mean that the game is alive and well. TF2 got the same issues like Overwatch, even their own fanbases tells the game is dead
I'm done with overwatch, the ip has been tarnished by the launch and continued degradation of ow2. I haven't played in months and I don't intend to in the future
I feel like another issue that people Don't address often if the fact that the entirety of OW2 doesn't incentivize fun. It incentivizes spending money and winning. People complain about counter picking and how QP is too try hard but the challenges put a focus on winning and not having fun. It makes the game feel like a chore rather than an enjoyable time. Competitively they need more rewards for comp they want people to play it but what's the point. I know it's a ramble but i think it feeds into it more then we think
Couldn't agree more with the apathy. The corporate greed has been strong with the gaming industry and it's truly never been more visible. It's so bad that even the companies and developers themselves have been more and more openly apathetic and blatant with their methods of sales and marketing tactics to where they don't care how it looks.
5:52 - 6:08 he literally describes the exact state of ngs and entirety of sega's plans for it, I had to double check the video title because of how relevant it is to ngs also microsoft buys blizzard -> overwatch 2 becomes money milking machine that only spams collab cosmetics microsoft sponsors pso2 to come to west -> pso2 (ngs) becomes money milking machine that only spams collab cosmetics
4:46 are you seriously trying to say that only the casual overwatch fans are buying the premium crossover skins, and that none of the "real" fans are picking them up? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
I think whoever is left working on Overwatch has until then to get 6v6 in a decent state. I would imagine many would leave for greener pastures. I've played sporadically, missing many seasons, but if Rivals or Deadlock scratch that FPS MP itch I doubt I'd ever go back
Whats sad is all the skin development seems to go to just the colabs now too. New characters don't release with the base skins they used to have or even new shop skins. They would probably make good money with a few Juno skins but there are none on her release, which is strange with the way they have been using the game to just get their money out of it.
Boycotting isn't as easy as it sounds but we do have a slight chance.. it's just that a lot of ow2 creators are afraid to speak on that. Not enough reach to make a difference in the end.
@@CarriB65 The overwatch content creators aren’t gonna say anything on that because they also buy these skins and then complain about it. They are just as much of the problem. Sty alone could make an impact, he would have to reach out to every single streamer he knows and then post it all over social media and basically bully blizzard into reducing prices. The legendary skins used to sell for 25$ and now it got brought down to 20$, if we as a community start bullying blizzard again, we can drastically lower it further and force blizzard to actually change their ways. The thing is, the only people able to make a difference are the top tier streamers. I doubt anything is ever gonna change
I was so disappointed in the community when we all collectively shrugged our shoulders at the cancellation of pve. The fact the game survived confirmed for me that we're never getting anything better. No ones willing to fight to be treated better, they all just rolled over and begged for more abuse. We literally got what we deserved. If we actually cared, we would've stopped playing. I quit as soon as that announcement was made and I'm sad too few follower suit.
This game is dead. Idk why people believe in blizzard reviving it at this point. They have failed us EVERY time. It's sad but sometimes the best thing is to let go and move on.
@gamerbeast3616 40k? You think that's a big game??? That MORE people playing rocket leauge. WAY more playing deadlock. The game is trash and has been since they announced OW2. They failed everyone and you simps can't see. The game is no fun. They don't know WHAT they're doing. But go ahead and play your game idc I'm just telling sty to move on. The game has no legs left and they can't rebuild what they have torn down.
@krazyd0nut404 wooow so original telling me to play an actual dead game. OWL failed. OW2 failed to deliver on ANYTHING they promised. All its for now is people who suck at other game or are scared to play anything thay takes actual skill. Have fun playing a dead game.
They killed beloved OW1 and lied about PvE just to create SkinWatch
100%
and they had the audacity to just overwrite ow1 with ow2. Feel scamed in so many ways from blizzard. (I payed also 50€ for the starter pack of ow2 in belive the pve would cost money and i can buy it now beforehand with some extra skins!). Fuck them.
Beloved literally
@@siddhartha6692well they definitely never said that’s how it would work so that’s on u
Everyone bitched about PVE, they didn’t even bother trying to make it better. So this is what we get.
Porsche wasn't even a Collaboration, just a blatant ad inserted into the game that you can pay to get it to stay forever.
shame you cant pay to have it permanently deleted from the game forever
Idk the skins werent that bad, and i like porsche. What i dont get is the le serifim collab.
Which makes absolutely no sense because WHY is Porsche trying to advertise to OW players? Do they think that most of us can afford a Porsche? Idiocy from them AND the OW higher ups.
@@devlintaylor9520 if I were to guess, they were trying to do the same thing LoL did with KD/A?
@@MicDubTVI most definitely cant afford a porsche, but I do like their cars
OverWatch had the potential to be what marvel comics were back in the day.
They could have been modern day superheroes, beacons of virtue and role models to look to for inspiration.
Instead they've all been reduced to cash grabs.
Yeah modern gaming sucks now a days. But overwatch is the biggest failure in gaming history.
Yeah I fully believe this as well. The level of passion OW fans had early on was next level. Could've easily evolved to more but they threw it away.
Implying Marvel wasn't always a cash grab
@@Mephitinaenormally I would agree but I don’t, they put lot of care in the beginning for their world. Now they’re a cash grab and their shit sucks.
The game was taken over by modern activists and they tanked it
“Eventually, you run out and what do you do then?”
You collab with the department across the hall.
New skin: Barry from around the hall!
@@TheTomKatt92 As a Barry, I approve :p lol
@TheTomKatt92 personally I'll be grinding for the Jon from accounting skin
The game has completely lost its soul - such a massive waste of potential.
They are only interested in underage girls these days
has not lost its soul
@gamerbeast3616 sure thing corporate shill.
@@absolute-xero7502he’s right though, the worst part is that you still see little pushes of passion but like 80% of it sucks and over shadows the whole game sadly
@@gamerbeast3616 literally lost everything that made the game special, no events, no cool story, no cinematics, no feel sometime something will happen. game has no soul
I played overwatch religiously since launch in 2016, I've not opened the game since July. The game is a husk of it's former self
I played it since launch also. It’s fine. I just don’t main a game, play other stuff bro.
If you stop playing it. Life can be great
OW2 now is still much better than launch OW2, and better than the last years of OW1. It's not much of a husk anymore, it's coming into its own after two years of work now.
Yeah same here, I have the preorder widow skin from 2016 but I haven't played OW2 since season 8. It's just depressing to see how bad they ruined the game just so they could manipulate all the new players and people with no self control into paying for insanely overpriced skins.
It's been uninstalled all this time and it will stay that, I doubt even 6v6 will bring me back at this point as it's actually depressing to even look at the game at this point.
Like even if I wanted to play it, I mained tank so the gameplay experience itself is just so much worse I couldn't even have a fraction of the amount of fun I had in 1.
same
That zen skin ain't it. Plus only 4 skins and no event. Where is the content that will keep players invested
And the team is massive what on earth are they all doing 😂
Their OW2 events have been really mediocre anyway. Welcome to the Blizzard mall. Would you like Ashe to try on our Spring outfit?
Why would they turn a hulking Orc into a small skinny omnic? Makes no sense. Thrall is a shaman, not a monk…
It’s called mid season patch in 2 days
There is no content, any plans for that got put in the recycle bin with pve. Blizzard is well aware that people will just keep buying skins so why bother making content?
I think it's crazy that they made an in-house collab, 2 Blizzard IP's, but they still had the audacity to make a recolor of a skin. Not only was the original skin free, they're going to now charge $20-$30 for a recolor or a previously free skin too. It feels so greedy and so low effort
The original skin wasn’t free iirc. It was available via loot boxes. But, I understand what you mean. I have the OG skin and laughed when I saw that they’re releasing a recolor.
@@MicDubTV i mean, the diamond magni skin is an insanely important piece of lore, so for people like me (I have over 650 days of logged time on my main) it all makes sense. I think the thrall zen skin is week, but Magni's skin is good if you play WoW
@@MicDubTV and lootboxes were given for free every other game... so unless you had the self control of a child, you got it for... free
@@MicDubTVloot boxes were earned for free 💀
@MicDubTV I mean it was absolutely free. I owned pretty much everything Overwatch 1 had to offer, and I only spent money once, and that was to actually buy the game.
41 characters, but only 4 skins. Imagine if we got 6-7-8 skins in a collab for once.
I assume it’s lack of staff. They laid off a ton of people.
And still not a single legendary for venture not even a concept in those surveys 😂
Then y'all would complain that there's too many skins and you can't afford them all...
8 skins in a collab? Buy now! Only $200 (on sale, used to be $350 even though these skins are new and were never offered previously?)!
Like leseraphim!!!! (Which was the best collab btw)
Guys, can we give the multidollar company a break? They're just an indie studio. I, for one, am proud of what they have accomplished with their small budget.
They've been buckbroken by Microsoft
It's hard to watch something you love die.
It's harder to watch the murderers plunging the knife in and out of the body...
Yep I hate it
Thats what aaron keller and jesse mccree did to those underage girls in their blizzard cosby suite
overwatch 2 is not dying
@@KingArthur101As much as Overwatch is a joke now, you can’t get away with spreading misinformation without consequence.
The McCree guy wasn’t even on the OW team to begin with. He was on Diablo. Aaron Keller was never a part of those abhorrent stories either. In fact, the OW team was the cleanest when it came to the Blizz scandal. Most of it was on the COD teams & WoW teams. This is widely reported. So, stop talking out of your ass.
@@gamerbeast3616 true, but it's not really flourishing either. They're just cycling between heroes, maps, and skins; there isn't anything standout or feeling passionate about.
Rewatching that Blizzard World trailer from Overwatch 1 just reminded me of how much of their magic Blizzard has actually lost.
Overwatch 2 is just a husk of what Overwatch used to be. I used to get excited for events like that. Now I just ignore it knowing damn well I'm not spending $20 for one skin and that there are no fun events or challenges tied to it.
Logging into the game in december 2018 to see the christmas wonderland menu with the music, looking at all the new christmas/holiday skins in game to figure out which ones I wanted to grind for over the month and whatever one was my favorite was the one I was going to use my dupe coins on first.
Now you log on and the event is paying 40 dollars for whatever new christmas mercy skin is in the shop. Last year you had to pay for a christmas battlepass that had a free skin from ow1 in it as a premium reward. What an absolute souless cashgrab the game is now.
True and funny enough
Blizzard thinks they still have their magic they go arrogant and say we are cooking
They aren’t cooking they are shitting
@@nickp8041 the memories... 🥹
So true. Like, why in the hell would I ever spend 20 bucks for one skin for one character when i could get two battlepasses for that price or even a bunch of indie/old games with that money. I'm fine with them monetizing their game, but the prices they charge for skins is absolutely absurd. Every time I see a new season or event's skins im like, wow cool but im not spending fucking 20 bucks. So its basically meaningless for the average person who isn't a stupid whale that happily buys whatever slop blizzard gives them.
Blizz too busy making useless Hero Mastery trials which no one asked for or even needs. Not even a WoW inspired PvE mission for the event, says it's all really...
I'm convinced they've finally added the option to try out in Practice Range any of the currently available skins only so they don't need to make a new mode showcasing the new skins every season.
I think hero mastery is a fine idea for new players, but it should have come out complete for all the then-present characters ON LAUNCH, not a year after the supposed "sequel" has already been out.
Wait, they're still making them? I genuinely thought they already finished them all and they're just sitting on them, periodically releasing them considering that whole team got fired
they are not even making hero mastery shit, one new course every season, ja, they really think anyone will play that shit beyond the first day after getting 5 stars?
Agree!! Hero Mastery is so pointless.
Overwatch 2 is literally a trainwreck happening in real time
You shouldn't watch it, but here we are with a bag of popcorn and a drink in each hand.
Yup, I think there's a good portion of OW1 players that don't play anymore, but still pay close attention to the car crash happening in slow motion
Marvel rivals can’t come soon enough
@@ZeGreatBamboozleI felt my ears burning.
We can dislike the direction of the game all we want, but the unfortunate reality is that people are throwing money at these skins and it's not at all failing
@soapbiter36577 it might be a financial success (I doubt it, all those years of OW2 development was expensive, as was scrapping the league), however it is a cultural and artistic failure.
Overwatch 2 isn't about the game or how it's played anymore. Its about selling skins and battle passes to make a profit. Its a hollow shell of what it used to be and its genuinely sad to see.
its about the game lol
They literally shoved the actual fans away and got rid of their game to bank on whales for a cash grab. What you see is because people (players/customers) have no dignity and no self control with their money. They are the reason we get a lackluster shell of a product.
Never blame the everyday people for the sins of corporate greed.
@@burni988 *looks at Cod fans* you sure about that?
@@burni988 Let me give you a brief elementary-level economics lesson. A lackluster product is introduced by a businessman, idiots with no self control buy said product, greedy businessman sees oodles of dollar signs, so greedy businessman keeps doing the same thing and even doubling down on it, because idiots keep spending their money on what keeps getting offered. So while it is a greedy person introducing what to buy, it's ultimately the customer that has no self control and dignity that keeps giving in and fueling this insanity. "Corporate greed" is not the root cause. It is people that don't know how to be good customers and people that don't know how to stand up for themselves financially and stay "no." Voting with your wallets is the only way to talk to businessmen. That means not buying lackluster products when they are presented. Demand more by talking with money and the consumer will start getting treated better.
@@burni988 Let me give you a brief economics lesson. A lackluster product is introduced by a businessman, consumers with no self control buy said product, greedy businessman sees oodles of dollar signs, so greedy businessman keeps doing the same thing and even doubling down on it, because consumers keep spending their money on what keeps getting offered. So while it is a greedy person introducing what to buy, it's ultimately the customer that has no self control and dignity that keeps giving in and fueling this insanity. "Corporate greed" is not the root cause. It is people that don't know how to be good customers and people that don't know how to stand up for themselves financially and stay "no." Voting with your wallet is the only way to talk to businessmen. That means not buying lackluster products when they are presented. Demand more by talking with money and the consumer will start getting treated better.
@@burni988 Let me give you a brief economics lesson. A lackluster product is introduced by a businessman, consumers with no self control buy said product, businessman sees oodles of dollar signs, so businessman keeps doing the same thing and even doubling down on it, because consumers keep spending their money on what keeps getting offered. So while it is a greedy person introducing what to buy, it's ultimately the customer that has no self control that keeps giving in and fueling the businessman. "Corporate greed" is not the root cause. It is people that don't know how to be good customers and people that don't know how to stand up for themselves financially and say "no." Voting with your wallet is the only way to talk to businessmen. That means not buying lackluster products when they are presented. Demand more by talking with money and the consumer will start getting treated better.
It's a little heartbreaking to see what the world of Overwatch has become. I stuck with it through the shift to OW2 up until around season 8 and haven't kept up with the updates to it since. It has such an incredible world and characters that could have truly become something great. We'd all wait for the new cinematics or trailers. We'd all get emotional, sometimes even cry. We *cared* about these characters and what they were going through. I still go back to watch the cinematics on occasion even though I don't play any more.
This needs to be studied in the future on courses, it's kind of wild how rapidly it went down the drain and how willingly Blizzard destroyed the IP.
I quit playing right around Moira drop. She just killed the game for me and I had been a day 1 superfan. Because Overwatch still had a lot of hype around it and cultural pull, I would watch the cinematics or whatever and keep up with the game even though I wasn't really playing anymore. I thought the idea of the PVE thing was neat and looked forward to it, maybe that would get me back into the game, but that went out the window didn't it. Overwatch 2 is a disaster to me.
I went back and watched the original trailer and the 2 gameplay trailers and I felt genuinely emotionally devastated over that game and all that came with it being gone forever. I almost cried. I watched all the older cinematics and had goosebumps. What did we lose that game for? For what?
It's really sad that even Fortnite has a stronger narrative than Overwatch these days.
Even the people that popularized the whole battle pass and skins as revenue system realized that their game still needed narrative continuity to maintain its players long-term
Yeah it's became very in depth that I am actually shocked 😅
wait there is a story?
It's worth noting that with Fortnite the battle pass ALWAYS comes with enough currency to buy the next battle pass if you finish it which to me is what separates a consumer friendly battle pass from a predatory one.
I never understood why they had to remove so much content in the game to release OW2.
2cp was bad at times, but still was a gamemode. They didnt even allow us to try it in the 5v5 format.
Instead lets remove all these 2cp maps that are memorable/complete. This makes the devs not have to come up with any new ideas. Then, release them as knockoff 5cp maps. This is just one example of regurgitating content.
Sad. Really.
It was a map design issue. Instead, they just scrapped the whole gamemode. All they had to do was make the spawn room distance for defenders on 2nd point be longer.
Clash is literally worst than 2CP
And the funny thing is, clash launched with 2 maps... Despite literally reusing assets and reworking old maps
2cp was fine it was just the fact that blizzard just made the entire game mode about getting through a chokepoint. Literally look at all the maps in OW and notice how many of them are just *spawn and push through a choke*. It's actually insane they were allowed to get away with that disgustingly lazy map design.
So much was removed. Level system, player borders, in game lfg, easily obtainable free loot boxes, match end screen voting thing, an entire set of beloved maps. They even made the play of the game music worse.
Can't wait for Marvel Rivals
Hate to tell you, but it looks pretty bad. Deadlock seems cool though.
@@snipingwayI played the beta, Its honestly just as fun as overwatch. Sure not as high quality as overwatch but very fun, fairly more balanced and heroes are more known compared to overwatch heroes. Like who doesn’t want to play as venom? Or any other cool marvel hero?
@@snipingway yea no hate to tell you but everyone loved it. The beta had 300000 players at once for a reason.
@@richardespinoza9989 Marvel heroes are actually a massive negative for me, personally. & It looked kind of clunky and like there was a lot of visual clutter. Besides that, I don't really trust the company that made it.
But that's me, its cool that you enjoyed it.
@@snipingway no worries, I understand its not gonna be for everyone. Overwatch is still a first person fps and marvel is third person. They aren’t exactly the same, just the way they play out. I do highly recommend trying it out if you haven’t though. It’s gonna be free to play so it doesn’t hurt to try it out. I am personally burnt out from overwatch and really want to play something that gives me the same high and feels fresh so what better game to play than marvel rivals?
Does Blizzard actually regret making Zarya? Cos they seem to hate her and never give her skins!
They give rein, widow, kirko and mercy skins every season.
Forget zarya none of the other heroes gets skins.
She’s not a popular hero. So she want get much skins
I mean.. I know no one wants to hear the truth but the reason is very obvious, isn't it? She is just not attractive therefore her skins doesn't sell. There is no reason for Blizzard to allocate their resources to make skins for Zarya when they can make skins for Kiriko/Mercy/Dva (you know, the attractive ones) with the same resources and make 10 times more money.
@@ヴァイス-m2p See I try to tell people the same thing in Genshin impacts community.
But the Global players seem to think theres an untapped Market of Chinese players who Desperately want to purchase Black Characters.
I just get called a Racist so what I say never processed as a thought.
Even if zar gets a skin its ffing horrible
they put more effort into the trailer then the actual collab
After the abject disaster that was Overwatch 2, who in their right mind is still playing Overwatch in the year of our Lord 2024
Not me, best decision I’ve ever made
Cancelling the PvE did it for me. I needed them to do more with the story and lore to keep me interested and they clearly do not give a shit
Unfortunately some of us go back for the nostalgia, to visit the characters and places we miss. Won't give them a cent for the stupid overpriced skins or crap filled passes, and then I go back to playing other stuff where the devs still actually care.
@@glassmonkeyface8609 why? It's just going to make you sad...
me but it sucks
This is what happens when you fire pretty much all of the original team
killing the pve, and even gutting the old pve theyve removed the entire carrot and want us to just chase a $20 wire attatched to a stick
we were all so invested with the universe of overwatch...well that died
They've completely ruined the Overwatch universe.
they havent lol
@@gamerbeast3616but they have
@TheHellsingHQ forget it, the person you're replying to is one of the skin whales that ruined the game. He probably plays the game one handed so he can jack it to Mercy skins.
@@sumisu_senpai_6280 Haha I don't care for skins but OW2 is great! What other game is like OW2? I think that most people who complain just have personal issues or something in their life. They want a game to fix their life lol
I love recoloured skins as part of the exclusive event for the season.................
Maybe they shouldn't have fired their entire art dept.
i mean they did fire the people who did events and PVE assets
Overwatch is a thriller bark zombie.
A reanimated corpse with someone else's soul stuffed into it.
The soul of overwatch is somewhere else wanting to return 😢
KIIIIIIISHISHISHISHI!!
One piece suuuuu yoi
hororororororororororo
Yohohohohoho! Right you are, friend.
Oh Man! this is so poetic! This is exactly my thought!
The skins look great but the game is soulless and unplayable in 5v5. Celebrating my 8th month without logging in, and with the gameplay as it is, this is unfortunately very ignorable.
Sty in sunglasses got me feeling something 👀 😎
It got me feeling like he can read the script without you watching his eyes lol
@@Zhohan-Is this supposed to be some sort of criticism? Lol
@@MicDubTV IDC if he's reading off his script. Just funny he's wearing sunglasses indoors to hide it
no ones talking bout the american accent tho lmfao
@@Zhohan- He was tired and his eyes needed a break 😊 better than overpaying for blue light blocking glasses
Ive moved onto deadlock and marvel rivals. Overwatch has disappointed me to many times.
imagine if modern blizzard put as much effort into their IP as riot does. ive never played LoL in my life and i'm still hyped as hell for Arcane S2
Overwatch 2? Jeff left.. that's what happened
Jeff was part of the reason why OW began failing as an IP as it is. You people need to let the notion go that Jeff was this savior that we made him out to be. He was a major part of the problem & he also treated us like simpletons & gaslit us on a regular basis.
@MicDubTV nah they just fired the coach. They thought the 5v5 idea was better and it was not, clearly. Jeff might have been hard headed and wrong in some regards but there was premise to his actions.
Fr, Jeff was the "wall' From keeping the Suits from ruining the game and its life in it, even since he left looked what happened. The Game Took a HARD Nosedive.
Jeff was part of the problem, or rather became one at some point. OW1 was already in trouble years before he left.
Jeff was the one building ow2. Saying that him leaving is the reason for the failure is just not true. There are alot more reasons ow has plummeted.
My question is: if the people who create the skins say "we aren't responsible for the game, we only put visually appealing stuff in the game", and the game recieves almost nothing besides it, then what do all other people on the overwatch team do? Learn 3d modelling to make more skins??
They seriously need to stop screwing around and invest in an animated series and then release events and skins that correlate with the show to get people excited.
They are sitting on a multi-million dollar IP, people who don’t even like video games or FPS like OW characters and there could be even more past that. God feed us, Blizzard.
24.99 mfer lol.
@@bobothebob4716 what are you talking about
A major reason for OW1's success was that it was a game that even people who didn't like/weren't good at FPS games could play and they've completely destroyed that in ow2 specifically to appeal to the hardcore shooter crowd.
@@nickp8041at what point OW2 appeals to a hardcore crowd? All recently released heroes aren't as complex as DF/Ball or maybe Echo.
The balance patch of season 9 with increasing TTK to appeal to NEW players.
That Torb skin has to be free from a challenge. If it isn’t then Blizzard has hit a new low.
They didn’t give a free skin during the transformers event so there’s a chance they won’t give that one out for free either lol
Who wants to put a little money in the wager: Will Torb or Zen be a free skin? 🤣
OW1 really died for this shitshow
overwatch 2 is not a "shitshow"
@@gamerbeast3616No real development, every promise broken, new heroes launching with no skins, everything horribly overpriced....yes. Overwatch 2 IS a shitshow.
@@AWest-en5eeDon't bother trying to convince that moron. He's a blizzard shill.
@@gamerbeast3616 You're the only one in every comment chain simping for Blizzard dude, give it up and admit Overwatch 2 is shit
@@gamerbeast3616If it’s not a shitshow what have they been doing for 2 years when we were waiting on this dog shit game
I understand the argument that the art team individual was making, that they're a whole different department from the rest of the Overwatch team, but at the end of the day, we haven't seen an animated short in over a year that actually pushed the story forward at all. July of last year to be precise, and as interesting as it was, it wasn't even the normal Overwatch 3D animated hyper polished stuff, it was a 2D animated video. I love it a lot, to be sure, but it's a far cry from what we are used to. Now we get a whole ass animated trailer for a bunch of boring ass skins from a game that isn't even overwatch related. Their priorities have clearly completely changed, and if the devs themselves can't see that, then the game is officially cooked.
the team making the cinematics is also a different team, they do the cinematics for all blizzard games even cop sometimes, wow and d4 both have expansions right now with tons of cinematics being made for in game and for marketing
Well stop buying the skins then.
The game died when the pve did. Should have never scrapped it. Base Overwatch would have always gotten stale. That’s inevitable for any game, that’s why Overwatch 2 should have been something different and more of a borderlands style game with story and lore. That’s what we were hoping for and once Jeff Caplan left it was over.
I'm actually relieved to have stopped playing overwatch. I was a player that finished every single battle pass from the first season to season 11, and I just cant keep going on the treadmill theyve made for us.
I feel the same way Sty, I've been playing since 2015/2016 as a Rein/Winton main I played quickplay, comp and arcade but the new lore and wanting to see the characters interact was what kept me playing, not through bloody empty voicelines but through cinematics, comics and finding secrets on new maps in custom lobbies, watching a brand new Overwatch cinematic release live at Blizzcon while in a discord call with friends was a feeling like no other particularly when Honour and Glory came out in 2017. Overwatch had a big impact in my life I started going to the gym because of Reinhardt and I've pursued a science degree in college partly because of Winston. I hate to see the monetary milking by corporate greed of a world that has meant so much to all of us. Cyberpunk got an anime that reinvigorated it, and some good patches. I would love to see a successful overwatch series, or at least something because if Overwatch 2 as a product is just some minute pointless lore for a new hero every few monthes and some new voicelines as an excuse to keep the game alive and sell overpriced collab skins then the game isn't worth any of our time and is an insult to the original creators vision for the world.
I thought that dev comment what actually quite rude. Way to make a target for dev's backs.
the porche collab is probably just some suit who owed someone in porche a favor so they can get a porche at a low rate.
Imagine a world where they added Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin to Overwatch along with these skins.
No idea what the hell that is, but as long as it ain't a clash map, sure, I'd be happy, lol.
Honestly that would be better than just the skins. Would look sick in the overwatch engine.
That would be amazing
Like they did with hots.... damn I miss that game so much
@@copiagueeagle warsong gulch is capture the flag but on a massive map with buffs you can get, and arathi basin is basically domination from COD but theres 5 total bases and you exponentially get more points for each base you own. Having all 5 ends the game in 30 seconds
And I still don't buy any of their stupid skins. lol
Hell, I don't really even play the game anymore. Such a let down... such a let down.
Same here, i play some games sometimes but i never spent a cent on that stupid show and i never will😂
we dont care
GOD BLESS I've been waiting for this video. That reaction in the beginning alone was EXACTLY how I imagined your whole reaction
What I hate about new skins is the fact that some heroes are non recognizable in those skins, which directly harms gameplay. When you can't detect which enemy hero you are fighting against in one glance (in a competitive online shooter) - this is a problem.
Bro that’s more a skill issue.
Game is in shambles nonetheless
Sty knows his audience for sure. The jaded gamer 😂
Sty you're talking about this now, but it was apparent like a year ago when the le serrafim collab was announced. they arent making their own game, they are just making a vehicle for their shop
i stopped caring about the game in terms of it being good a long time ago. i'll play it when i want to shoot things. skins arent exciting anymore, all i see is 30$ pixels that can be taken away when they have decided they made enough money and shut down the game, there is no new information about the characters no development of the story -- no story at all. everything about the game that kept it interesting is gone. the gameplay is OK, but they are now diluting it with these horrible game modes that seem more about wasting your time than winning a match. its super sad to see. i'll play when i want to shoot something, but thats about it now.
What's happened to Overwatch is it's a lazy cash grab. The game we got 8 years ago could be forgiven as proof-of-concept for a potential larger title, currently in the works of salvaging what was left of Titan. Nearly a decade later, it's still the same damn game with basically no real changes. Yeah, yeah - Role Queue, 5v5, new heroes and balance changes, etc. Woo-hoo. But the core game is still the same lazy, tired, low-effort PvP arena combat which barely passed must muster in the 90s. Apparently, the Overwatch team just aren't very good at game development, considering they pissed away three years failing to make even a low-effort PvE experience.
So what we have now is a poor man's Fortnite. The game doesn't matter, the mechanics barely matter, new content doesn't matter. It's just skins. And not good skins, either. Let's throw in whatever garbage is popular at the time, and to hell with the game's theme, or art style, or world or story. Why not just throw in a Batman skin for Genji, a PewDiePie skin for Junkrart, maybe a Tron skin for Symmetra 'cause why the hell not. After all, nobody who plays Overwatch actually wants Overwatch. We apparently want it to be any other game than this, so keep throwing on these garbage skins that don't make any sense. As long as they sell, right.
Let me put it this way, and imma walk away. Imagine a Jana Proudmore skin in Helldivers. That's Overwatch to me. Has been for years - a god damn clown show that the development team don't seem to care about, so why the hell should I?
I am so sad to see what overwatch has become. I get it’s just the industry and the business aspect is not something I am familiar with, but the reason why I got into overwatch was because of the lore and characters. Seeing overwatch slowly get less and less lore for the game and characters is just disappointing.
And the scrapping of the story mode was just another nail in the coffin. Overwatch 2 just sounds pretentious. It’s a worse version of what it once was.
How unfortunate that Overwatch loss its identity has become a watered down Paladins. Paladins still gets updated and now has PvE and doesn’t rely on skins to keep people playing. I wouldn’t be surprised if Overwatch gets a card system in place too.
paladins is a garbage game
@@gamerbeast3616 Both are garbage tbh
Stylosa went back to his 2016-2018 meme phase and I love it!
The Characters lost their essence in OW2
That Zen skin is baaaaaaaad lmao.
Man, OW falls off more each month. I unironically believe that is true and is happening. I have a actually full friends list on battlenet, like I can't even add one more person. I'm at the point where I have to remove someone to add someone these days. And I almost never see anyone on my list playing OverWatch. But I still see a ton of people playing hearthstone, wow, classic wow, various Diablo games, even sometimes starcraft 2. But I so rarely see anyone on my massive friends list ever playing OverWatch. That is not how it used to be, but over the last year or so things have kind of moved that direction at least among my friends. I know my single friend list is not representative of any kind of larger population, but it just seems like no one I know is playing that game anymore.
And I feel like something should be pointed out. So there's another blizzard game that everyone says is bad all the time. It's had a horrible reputation since about 2 months after it launched. That game is Diablo 4. You know the sad thing about blizzard in the current year? That game is in better shape both in terms of the actual gameplay and the health of the player base/ population who play it, than Overwatch 2 is.
Think about that. That game, Diablo 4, gets memed and memed and memed on everywhere you go online. To be fair, some of the memeing has fallen off in the last few months as the game has moved away from its original launch date AND as the devs have patched up the game week after week after week... but for quite a while, Diablo 4 was the biggest embarrassment in AAA gaming. That game was trashed in terms of its reputation. But the devs pulled their heads out of their butts and actually improved the gameplay and *listened to players.*
Imagine if they did that with Overwatch in 6v6. Just saying. Maybe there would come a day when we are only a few weeks away from a new Overwatch expansion, just like we are just a few weeks away right now from a Diablo 4 expansion. The game is in not a bad spot, and most of that is thanks to listening to the community for once. The OW team could take a page from other Blizzard teams' playbooks.
The wow devs are listening to the community a lot more these days too. Especially classic. But also retail.
It's kind of weird, as Team 4 used to give me the "they're listening and they care about us players and the game" vibe, but these days it's not the same. Compared to other WoW dev teams, team 4 these days feels more like the team full of elitist "up in their Ivory Tower, disconnected-from-your-average-gamer" type of devs. Which is not how I used to feel about team 4. I used to think that of the wow and Diablo teams, but NEVER the ow dev team. Times have changed, it seems. My how the turn tables!
Jeff's absence really is unfillable. He was the man with the vision, the heart, and the passion. I know he pissed off the hardcore OverWatch players because he didn't want this game to be super hardcore and competitive. He knew it was a shooter, but he didn't want to make a game for only the sweats. He wanted to make a game that everybody would think about and want to log in and play. And that is diametrically opposed with a perfectly balanced, hyper-tuned competitive type of environment that a lot of the most hardcore OverWatch players desire. Jeff refused to give those people what they wanted, because he was busy giving all the rest of us a fun game for us. But when Jeff left, so did any hope of this game being for the masses. Now it is really just for the sweaty. What a shame. Might have been one of the most fun games I've ever spent time playing, but I just can't pick it up anymore. I just can't.
the zen skin ss cool
Zen as thrall? Wtf
What are people even expecting? Heroes, maps, core game modes and skins are all the game even really needs
If anything they should just be doing more of these and make seasons shorter to release new content quicker
Be real who actually cares about these side event modes, you play them once and never touch them again, it’s very whatever content
My favorite part of the wow skin “event is that the cost of all 4 will be more than the base cost of the expansion 😂
I wish they'd spend some time working on the matchmaker. I get better games in QP typically than comp. There's always one person in every comp game that is performing so poorly their team can't carry them across the finish line. I don't remember the last balanced game I got in comp. It's always a slaughter either for or against you. Never anything remotely competitive.
You spend all your brainpower and skill for your rank to go DOWN from a tough win because statistically victory was somehow “expected” then get stomped and lose MORE rank because you were expected to easily win that, you win 1 out of like every 10 games from people leaving or throwing or sucking or smurfing and all for 10 FUCKING COMPETITIVE POINTS ON WINS ONLY WHEN THE COMP WEAPON SKINS COST 3000 POINTS. Not to mention they changed the comp currency and prevented people from obtaining the old currency then added like 4 other currencies like what??
The quality drop in everything with overwatch after the ""sequel"" is astonishing. New characters feel like random OCs and not real ppl in the universe, they get NO cosmetics, and speaking of cosmetics, skins and highlight intros have gotten SO bad its insane
The Fortniteification of Overwatch
You’re crushing it in this one, bud. For real. You felt energized, honest, and entertaining. Great vid.
So just skins again??
Yep that’s it. Just skins and they’re all in bundles now.
I feel like OW2 may currently go down the same path Heroes of the Storm eventually did. There was a point where no new heroes dropped, updates started slowing down but skins were still being released, until they reached a point where it likely stopped being lucrative and HotS slowly died. OW2 has a much more active and stable player base judging by the number on Steam. It's much more established than HotS ever was, so I guess a lot of people are somewhat loyal to the game and the IP and whatever Blizzard is doing seems to work to some extent, at least if you consider the player count. I just wonder how long that will last. I'm only still playing Overwatch 2 with a couple of friends who still enjoy it and I wanna spend time with them online, other than that, I wouldn't touch it anymore, even more so now that Deadlock has arrived.
i've literally never seen that porsche skin in-game lol
sadly i've seen it once
I only got it cos I'm one of the very few planning to get a Macan EV so I like to hear the "electric sports sound" (Porsche electric car configuration option) when flying
@@ervinaspetrauskas1716 same I tea baged the Dva player afterwards.😂
@@TheUnseenKrab she was my teammate
@@ervinaspetrauskas1716I've seen 3 different players having it unfortunately
It's absolutely depressing to look at the original animated shorts like Recall, Dragons, Honor and Glory, Hero, etc. and then looking at the Le Sserafim advertisement
What happened was corporate greed
When I saw the trailer in the bottom corner I was like oh cool, this collab has probably been a long time coming, I wonder what it entails!
Wait what.. is this really just skins? I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought wtf is that Zen skin.
The only exciting thing is, does that skin give widow a bow? That would be kinda insane but I’m not sure they’d change a silhouette that drastically. (Obviously the enemy would still here the regular sniper shot as they don’t change audio cues for enemies for obvious reasons)
Adding a tournament UI and team (guilds?) for everyone could've incentivized organic events by fans and increase the popularity and activity by streamers, but for some unknown reason, in what 7 or 8 years? they have NOT done it, even thought we know they have the tools for it. These collabs are useless for the average player who wouldn't even think about paying for a skin if it cost over 10$ anyway
Stylosa, I miss your videos. Hell, I miss YourOverwatch and Overwatch Central too. You all used to put out such awesome content, reviewing new events, new maps, new heroes, strategy guides for playing X hero or Y map. I don't blame you all, I blame the developers of course, and the three-year content drought. But keep in mind, when you make a video, there will always be an audience for you!
Most people that came into overwatch 2 and didn’t really play the first are all over the skins… it’s a shame but it’s how it is… oh baby COWBOY BEBOP
They are cashing out until Marvel Rivals yoinks most of their players😂
Honestly, I blame Fortnite for this development in gaming in general. It took the idea of crossover IP and dialed it up to 11. And they made billions. That made every other company reevaluate their values. "Sure, having Lilith running around in Call of Duty doesn't make sense and ruins the immersion... But it'll make us $200 million in revenue, so we'll do it to appease shareholders. I mean, we don't play the game, why should we care?" Something like that
With fortinite it made more sense because you actually play as those crossover characters instead of a character dressing up as one.
Crossovers in games are nothing new. Like take Marvel vs Capcom, a fighting game which is like 20 years old I believe. That game however has its own unique mechanics, characters and universe, MvC2 in particular was such an important game.
I think youre right in fortnite seeming to start the whole crossover skin thing, and they made it so absurd. I havent kept up with fortnite but considering how terrible the company is, im not surprised if they made so much money from a few crossovers and just decided to keep bringing in different crossovers, getting so big that it somehow brought in universes and characters that make not a lick of sense for the game. Like how did Alien end up there? Lmao
the most alarming is that players would rather pay for skins they cant even see (other than emoting) instead of content.... it is literally appearance over personality lol
Overwatch two the downgraded worse running sequel that only exists to update the shop and resell all the things that were free for $20
its not a downgrade
@@gamerbeast3616 Do you know what a downgrade is?
I honestly thought sty was over overwatch, but apparently he loves it so much that he hates to see it go down like this. And we all do its so sad
What if I don't care about WOW....
Is there even anything for me in this season?
Stylosa wearing shades because he doesn't want to be recognized as an OW creator anymore 👀
Oh boy Reins 20th "fantasy themed" skin. Im so.. uuh. Not excited. Just.. games cooked man 😐
Imagine playing overwatch in 2024
I'm so glad I quit In season 3 I kind of hope this game eventually dies
it wont die lol keep dreaming
@@gamerbeast3616 well it's dead to most players it's just sad whales who are keeping this game alive I highly doubt people will be playing this game for years to come because of how bad the state of the game is
@@gamerbeast3616 Just because the game is still in service doesn't mean that the game is alive and well.
TF2 got the same issues like Overwatch, even their own fanbases tells the game is dead
The rich Southern American accent from a Brit is not something I knew I needed.
I'm done with overwatch, the ip has been tarnished by the launch and continued degradation of ow2. I haven't played in months and I don't intend to in the future
we dont care by hater
I feel like another issue that people Don't address often if the fact that the entirety of OW2 doesn't incentivize fun. It incentivizes spending money and winning. People complain about counter picking and how QP is too try hard but the challenges put a focus on winning and not having fun. It makes the game feel like a chore rather than an enjoyable time. Competitively they need more rewards for comp they want people to play it but what's the point. I know it's a ramble but i think it feeds into it more then we think
Stylosa my boi BIG W TAKE❤❤❤
Couldn't agree more with the apathy. The corporate greed has been strong with the gaming industry and it's truly never been more visible.
It's so bad that even the companies and developers themselves have been more and more openly apathetic and blatant with their methods of sales and marketing tactics to where they don't care how it looks.
so overwatch has become phantasy star NGS LOL
Not even close. At least PSO is fun.
@@TheHellsingHQ PSO is garbage
@@gamerbeast3616Garbage, yes. More fun than the current state of OW? Yes.
5:52 - 6:08 he literally describes the exact state of ngs and entirety of sega's plans for it, I had to double check the video title because of how relevant it is to ngs
also microsoft buys blizzard -> overwatch 2 becomes money milking machine that only spams collab cosmetics
microsoft sponsors pso2 to come to west -> pso2 (ngs) becomes money milking machine that only spams collab cosmetics
4:46 are you seriously trying to say that only the casual overwatch fans are buying the premium crossover skins, and that none of the "real" fans are picking them up? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
I so can’t wait for December 6th
I think whoever is left working on Overwatch has until then to get 6v6 in a decent state. I would imagine many would leave for greener pastures. I've played sporadically, missing many seasons, but if Rivals or Deadlock scratch that FPS MP itch I doubt I'd ever go back
Whats sad is all the skin development seems to go to just the colabs now too. New characters don't release with the base skins they used to have or even new shop skins. They would probably make good money with a few Juno skins but there are none on her release, which is strange with the way they have been using the game to just get their money out of it.
You guys keep buying these skins, it’s never gonna stop as long as you all keep making blizzard money. Nothing is ever gonna change
unfortunately i think the majority of the people who buy these skins are the younger players who buy with their parents debit card. I 100% agree tho
because the skins are cool womp womp
@@gamerbeast3616 not 20$ worth of cool, you’re getting scammed if you feel a legendary skin is worth over 10$
Boycotting isn't as easy as it sounds but we do have a slight chance.. it's just that a lot of ow2 creators are afraid to speak on that. Not enough reach to make a difference in the end.
@@CarriB65 The overwatch content creators aren’t gonna say anything on that because they also buy these skins and then complain about it. They are just as much of the problem. Sty alone could make an impact, he would have to reach out to every single streamer he knows and then post it all over social media and basically bully blizzard into reducing prices. The legendary skins used to sell for 25$ and now it got brought down to 20$, if we as a community start bullying blizzard again, we can drastically lower it further and force blizzard to actually change their ways. The thing is, the only people able to make a difference are the top tier streamers. I doubt anything is ever gonna change
I was so disappointed in the community when we all collectively shrugged our shoulders at the cancellation of pve. The fact the game survived confirmed for me that we're never getting anything better. No ones willing to fight to be treated better, they all just rolled over and begged for more abuse. We literally got what we deserved. If we actually cared, we would've stopped playing. I quit as soon as that announcement was made and I'm sad too few follower suit.
Daddy posted!! everyone get the popcorn
Havnt played OW since í was invited to Deadlock with my OW2 group.
Comapred to OW... then i'm loving my time there
This game is dead. Idk why people believe in blizzard reviving it at this point. They have failed us EVERY time. It's sad but sometimes the best thing is to let go and move on.
game is not dead lmao 40k pepole playing right now on steam while writing this comment
Damn dead again? Dead To u op, go play concord….
@gamerbeast3616 40k? You think that's a big game??? That MORE people playing rocket leauge. WAY more playing deadlock. The game is trash and has been since they announced OW2. They failed everyone and you simps can't see. The game is no fun. They don't know WHAT they're doing. But go ahead and play your game idc I'm just telling sty to move on. The game has no legs left and they can't rebuild what they have torn down.
@krazyd0nut404 wooow so original telling me to play an actual dead game. OWL failed. OW2 failed to deliver on ANYTHING they promised. All its for now is people who suck at other game or are scared to play anything thay takes actual skill. Have fun playing a dead game.
Skins are so pointless you can't even see your character most of the time while playing
Overwatch 3 is out! 😂
The skins are fine as long as you can get them for free in game