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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!! Y'all make me sick lol.
that girl was literally living in the arctic circle and this dude expects her to find fruits and vegetables lmao
Hannah A clearly he gets his information about being vegan from peta and the internet
It's possible to be vegan in those climates though. I know icelandic vegans lmao. I think it was necessary to make clear the distinction between those on susteinance diets who don't have access to more foods, and those who can go vegan but refuse to.
@@Defender_messenger sounds about right lol
@@monemori that's true but this guy didn't know how she was living that's all
BANANAS ARE ACTUALLY GROWN ON ICELAND!
Google "Banana production in Iceland". They stopped because the government removed import duties.
That research took me literally 5 seconds.
Erin: "why am I not in this video?"
Richard: "I got you sis"
Basically
BYEE😭😭
Yes I did!
We should stop this. This is essentially online bullying
@@shikuang6168 stop being so sensitive
“They can’t like grow vegetables there?”Richard it’s the Arctic.
Seriously.
He’s probably never left LA, he doesn’t know humans live all over the world
Food doesnt have to be home grown
@@Samuelwastaken but if you live in a place where vegetables and fruit don’t grow then I t has to be shipped in and that can get expensive and some might not be able to afford that.
@@SarahAnnJohnson Most of the time it's even cheaper than the home grown version. For example, look at bananas or even oranges. They are relatively cheap, even cheaper than an apple and only grow at tropical climates
People: are homeless and poor
Richard: stop making excuses
I literally just laughed out loud ,🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dude was just absolutely ridiculous
He is not saying that you are homeless or poor you can’t eat animal products, you just can’t call yourself vegan.
@@bozinoski he is also shaming anyone who isnt vegan
Right, because homeless and poor eat expensive cuts of meat and not cheaper food like legumes and cereals. Fuck logic.
bruh we used the “that’s not vegan” joke so much they done threw it back at us
I know I laughed out loud
Loved that Erin reference
(I also said that aloud)
and I like how they got Brandon to say that ahah😂 0:02
I laughed too loudly at this one lol
That is the nature of, and why I hate, memes.
That's not vegan
They really said “that’s not vegan” at the beginning huh
Erin's impact! we stan
meta as hell
So funny I forgot to laugh.
He did it for the memes
greta Erin is shook
bro said "you can't get a banana or something?" lmao wtf somebody gonna do with a banana? people need their calories
Agreed, fruits like banana and apple are amazing snacks and side meal for breakfast but you can't live off them, since you can't live off bananas. Its a great way to start a morning but it isn't a meal.
I feed my bananas to my goats, they love them. They can't live off bananas either even though they are herbivores.
you live in the arctic? just eat a banana 🙄
It’s like $15 US for a banana in those climates anyway
richard is yet another example of the textbook “holier than thou” vegan. ignorant, extremely privileged, narrow minded, and shaming anyone who isn’t vegan, regardless of the circumstance. and they wonder why there’s such a bad stigma around veganism... thank you to elizabeth trying to show him a different perspective than his very narrow one.
@Abel Abel what does that have anything to do with the comment lmfao
@Abel Abel it was ad hominem. That's what's wrong with it.
@Abel Abel You already have a disease, and it's not COVID.
I feel you're projecting
@Abel Abel Are you christian?
"I spent time in the arctic circle"
"But they dont have any fruits or vegetables out there??"
Its the god damn arctic circle
What about the co2 emissions for those imports ?
@Turbo_Turlet cant speak for all countries; but there are many fresh fruits in South America that are not safe to eat. Even the water is not safe. Many get lucky & there are many who don't. If you're going to a small village(who doesn't have food imported) they will not always have vegan options. It's not about excuses. It's reality.
@Turbo_Turlet But you cannot survive solely on highly expensive imports. They aren't *just* eating meat and animal products/biproducts in those areas, but it is a part of their diet due to necessity.
I've lived in Iceland as well, last year, and it is safe to say that there absolutely are vegan options. HOWEVER, the price range is insane and the different between meat and vegetables is insane. You can't grow anything on Iceland, exept in the greenhouses. Also the icelandic (and eg. Greenlandic) culture about meats and food is very different from what the people in the video are used to ;-)
That shouldn’t have effected her standing on that . No vegan lives in the Arctic circle lmao . She’s like when if your in a remote village then that’s fine . This is about your normal average everyday vegan . Most of these people were coming up with outrageous excuses .
no ones talking about the “that’s not vegan” joke they made at the beginning
That's not vegan
I was looking for this comment lmao
RIGHT? That was so clever 😂
Sour patch kids? ok those aren't vegan.
The best part about it was it was from the guy that Erin said it to.
Me : in the middle of the north pole eating fish
Richard: omg how could. Like wtf eat a banana or something gosh
I bet you’re healthier than Richard
Funny thing is, my food allergies dictate everything. One of the things I cannot eat is a yellow banana. I can only eat green bananas. Otherwise I get sick lol.
@@indiradahan might it be where they are grown or chemicals used?
I knew a girl who was allergic to bananas and then she went to Hawaii and had no issues with the bananas therr
@@ariana_208 I always buy Organic. I seem to have a mystery illness where I cannot digest certain foods. I have been getting tests and we're all here still trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with me. I also have Celiac disease (hereditary) and Gerd.
@@ariana_208 might be the species of bananas.
Imagine Erin, the vegan teacher and Richard debating about who’s more vegan. Constantly trying to put “that’s not vegan” and being irritating af. 💀💀💀
Okay but this needs to be done
They would probably like each other.
that would b hell nd the vegan teacher made me not want to b vegan .. so annoying gosh
there's also Aubrey from middle zone
heck, let’s add in all of peta as well
"The way I try to promote my diet is by being an example, and not by forcing it" - sis gets it
Georgia Wilcock yess 👏👏
Also Nikki and Tyra coming in with the true veganism. How can you be a true vegan against the mistreatment and exploitation of animals but not care about your fellow man?
Social Purgatory twisted thinking. People also put dogs above humans. I love dogs but I can see there is a clear difference.
This!
@@casanova842 I don't remember which episode of Jubilee it was when one guy said he'd shoot a lion if it were going to eat a human child and everyone was like "But the lion has a right to live too!"
I do think hunting for pleasure is twisted but when it comes to a human life vs animal life, the choice is pretty clear there, no matter what your attachment to the animal is, no matter how endangered it is. Human life always comes first, especially a baby's life because you don't know what he/ she might grow up to achieve.
Girl: I was near the arctic circle for 3 months.
Guy: There's no bananas?
I love how she shut him down ..
I’m had a conversation similar trying to explain how in some areas it is just not sustainable and it drove me crazy I wanted to just scream they were already starving if they cut meat out of their diet they would die .some people are ignorant of the world around them I mean there’s a reason people evolved into being omnivores and people don’t shame animals from their diet .. there are many ways to be vegan and live ethically but thinking every environment in world is sustainable for strick veganism is vary ignorant.
@@minwellitsanicknamebegrate2531 IMO you should cut down meat consumption or eliminate it. But yeah in some places it's not possible at the moment. And they don't hunt that much anyway, climate change is what's endangering those species.
I'd eat human if I had to. Vegans would the first if there was any meet on there bones, granted there bines can be used for tools and liver isn't bad
Yeah that's crazy. If I were only eating fruits and vegetables, I'd be like a panda, eating all the time. Eating would be like my new full-time job.
a vegan: i'm at the north pole and there's no wholefoods. what should i do?
richard: starve
lol
brandon was LITERALLY quoting erin on that one episode where she dragged him down bc he didn’t know that some candies weren’t vegan lmaoooo i love his sarcasm
the best part is that those candies are vegan.
@@megansart9763 Yes, Erin just simply came to him without a reason.
@@SamuelRoth-ke5rl Erin, why are you here?
@@SamuelRoth-ke5rl finally someone said it
“That’s not vegan” this line will never leave the comments section of jubilee
Bruh
0:01
Mia yes me
@@Cedevakal do you know now?
i know they even said it at the beginning of the video 😂
Funny how the girl in the denim jacket that is the most accepting and relaxed hasn’t been bullied
I was bullied since going vegetarian in 2014, and I hardly talked about it. People would put nuggets in my face and say all sorts of terrible things to me. Of course the words spoken to me were even more harsh after going full in vegan. People like you hate vegans and don't even think about how we feel
@@jojobeanstudio1339 When you stop spewing vegan propaganda in their face, they will stop putting nuggets in your face. It's simple.
@@jojobeanstudio1339 I'm chill bro. If you wanna be you that's fine. It's your body so I can't tell you what to be or what to eat. Hope you have a great life!
I’m whole food plant based. I make an exception for holidays, but family and friends have been very accepting if I bring food when I stay at their houses. I don’t expect people to accommodate to my dietary needs. If we go out then you can usually substitute or remove.
And funny how the two who are the most militant/obnoxious about it are the ones who are bullied. 🤔
Richard is the exact definition of the Vegan meme. Literally why people don't like Vegans.
watch dominon 2018 documentary which showcases conditions on factory farms and see why Richard is like this
He is a militant vegan. His channel's name in youtube is Militant Soy Boy. Lol
Richard is truly living a lifestyle that is a privilege but doesn’t understand that it may not be accessible, affordable or sustainable for other people and that doesn’t make them bad people. The amount of privilege is astounding. He can’t even comprehend other people’s struggles or lifestyles.
Also. Dont come for me. Im a vegan as well. Just damn man.
He irritated me from the first question. He's the reason people hate vegans. It's not the only option, and just because it's what he believes is right and easy, doesn't mean it is. It's the most ridiculously privileged "one size fits all" attitude
While is definitely a privilege to be able to choose what you eat, people use this argument where it doesn't even apply. Like they were talking about Iceland and how they couldn't live vegan, but there are plenty of Icelandic vegans.
People tend to say not everyone can be vegan so I don't have to, but that makes no sense
@@rabbitholeryn "He is the reason people hate vegans." Apply this logic to other situations like "a black person did something I dislike so therefore I am racist"
@@Kayla-ym8vi Yeah exactly, you can't just hate everyone because one person from a certain community did something bad :/
@@Kayla-ym8vi Exactly
I don’t think Richard realizes how privileged he is
It’s funny because I bet he strongly believes he’s underprivileged just cause he’s gay
@@purecarnage7159 haha
He’s the type of guy to convince a wolf to eat grass.
Exactly the comment I was going to write
The whole conversation about accessibility to food shows how he doesn't know a thing about life outside of his little bubble
THEY MADE AN ERIN JOKE 😂😂 “THATS NOT VEGAN”
WHEN
@@randomman3952 the beginning!!! "thats not vegan" " actually it is this time"
I cackled
Yeahhh I was like WAIT WERE THEY IMITATING HER?
Brandon said that joke which made it extra funny 😂
Not only does Jubilee manages to find a vegan Karen, they also found a vegan squidward🦑
Lmaoo
hey don't diss my dude squidward that's so disrespectful /j
??
Lmaoo
Lol hahaha
Richard is that stereotypical vegan person everyone makes fun of
@Abel Abel Anyone claiming to be vegan is just a virtue signaling liar.
Ever stop to think people would stop making fun of liars if they stopped lying?
yeah and they prolly shudnt
absolutely!
He is ignorant and well informed
@@anika.3074 they aren’t bullying him because he’s vegan, they don’t want to put up with his privilege
THE PRIVILEGE it takes to tell people in deserts to just “eat fruits”
@Abel Abel What do you expect from a dude who thinks he is better than other people when he believes eating grapes and salad makes him better than the rest? Dude is not well adjusted.
and how many animals live in the desert? infact how many people live in a desert. by definition is a waterless, desolate area of land with little or no vegetation, typically one covered with sand.
Waterless being the word they. now do people live somewhere that has no water? forgetting food. water is a basic need for any life to be suitable. whether it be animal, vegetable or even single-celled. life as we know it cannot exist without water. so if people are living in the desert then they are idiots.
if there is no vegetation to eat then there is no meat to eat either. since meat needs to eat veg anyway.
Koba your privilege is showing
Have you ever heard of caravans that travel across the Sahara on camels? They live oasis to oasis to sell salt to make a living every year. They hunt what they can find and ration small amount of food from their home. It does exist and these people do what they must to survive. Many people die from dehydration and starvation on these rides.
@@TheWeepingDalek A food desert isn't a literal desert, it's a place where you can't buy any high-quality food. Most large cities in America have neighborhoods that are food deserts, where there aren't any grocery stores for miles and miles, there's only convenience stores or dollar stores. It's hard for people in these places to find fresh produce, let alone vegan protein products
“welcome back to spectrum” “That’s not vegan” 😂😂 the SHADE
Meme
that’s actually amazing 😂😂
I don’t get it can someone explain
Lily Dawn they have this other show on their channel called odd man out and basically they had vegans on the show and they had to guess who wasn’t the vegan. A vegan name Erin was incredibly annoying and would try to discredit everyone by saying stuff like “that’s not vegan”
Why do I feel like they were throwing shade more at the people who use the meme rather than Erin
Richard definitely has not experienced or even had a understanding on why not everyone has the privilege of having a vegan diet 🙄
a vegan diet does not equate to "privilege". In many countries where poverty is a major issue, for example India, the people live mostly vegan or vegetarian due to poverty. You're also forgetting that some of the cheapest foods in the world are plant-based. This includes beans, rice, legumes, fruits, vegetables. No one said you have to buy the expensive meat alternatives. Those exist mainly for people who are transitioning to a plant-based diet / lifestyle for convenience.
I feel like I lose 10 brain cells when ever Richard opens his mouth.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
WHEN HE SAID “UH THAT’S NOT VEGAN” AHHH. did erin diiiirty
Unfunny, corny ass, overused joke for the win.
Damien Lu rude ass
Erin lmaooo
Damien Lu somebody’s angry
when did he say that?
I knew as soon as the girl said “food deserts” that the pineapple guy did not know what that meant.
SuperIndy08 and she came with the facts too. That was a nice educated roast. He was very ignorant but hopefully he looks more into that 🤷🏾♀️
I dont think the pineapple guy knows anything about anything
Emily He probably thinks he came from 2 girls scissoring
He knew what it meant a, people just like to use that excuse. Nobody is gonna attack someone in a survival situation for not eating a certain way. That’s totally different. We’re saying, people who claim to be vegan( who tend to be people who have the freedom of choice to eat whatever they want) can’t call themselves vegan if they intentionally buy animal products despite not needing to. Those are the people that question is for, not someone starving in a 3rd world country.
Marika Diaz exactly!
Richard is erin’s male counterpart
@Ramadan Steve search up the 1 meat eater, 5 vegans video
_"If you care about me as a person, how could you not change one meal."_ Just imagine how offended Richard would feel if one of his friends said that to him, yet, it's his expectation, or rather his *challenge,* to those around him.
_My_ "challenge" to Richard is to live in a 20-person village in the Arctic for three months, with no greenhouse, to gain a better understanding of what "food desert" _really_ means. I'm assuming he'll jump at the chance to stop "...abusing [his] own ignorance."
“So in places like the Arctic meat is critical to survival”
Richard: but isn’t there a bean in the Arctic???!
🤦🏼♀️
It’s common knowledge that a banana, apple, or a bean can sustain you for at least a year.
Cesar Perez IM SCREAMING 🤣
@@cesrperez But in the Arctic?
Lmao he does not realize how expensive produce is anywhere up north
"there wasn't even a bean???"
bro..... have you ever been outside the US?
No. He 100% has not.
He is so entitled and privileged that he would die in Iceland if he lived there for three months.
thestaceofspade depends what part of iceland if it’s a resort or hotel he has a week but outside an hour at the most
Beans originated outside of the US dude😂
I agree Iceland probably would be a bit of an exception but developing places such as Africa, most of their staple foods are vegan, grains, beans, ect. Because they are so cheap.
People from Iceland who are like "I live here it's great to be vegan" well very good for you, doesn't mean it's the exact situation in all of Iceland... She mentioned a very specific example and I think it's important to acknowledge those exist. Do they have produce? Sure. Is it sustainable and nutritious to only eat those? Probably not. We don't know her specific situation so it's unfair to just invalidate it because you live in Iceland and are having a great time being vegan.
does richard know there are sustainable forms of farming? like he seems like the kinda guy that would tell native american tribes not to hunt buffalo 😂😂
Exactly! The food chain is a natural phenomenon in nature. Animals eat animals. I don’t think it’s bad to eat meat when it is killed in a humane and sustainable manner.
@@TheDaneyeledee How does that work when you have billions of people eating meat? Unless they cut way back on the amount of meat they are eating , billions of animals have to be raised and slaughtered as quickly and cheaply as possible to serve demand
@@Smithpolly Two words, which were present in my original comment: sustainable manner.
@@TheDaneyeledee And how do we do that if billions of people ar eating meat every day ?
I like Richard just as much as you do, but animal farming can’t be sustainable. Grassing animals may seem sustainable, but they are actually the most damaging to climate.
“Is there not like.... a banana?”
In the arctic circle?? 😂😂😂
how is he surprised that tropical fruits can't be grown in arctic climates b
He said the thing about the banana because he is an hysterical vegan disconnected from reality living in the conformt of the city.
@@iams2109 He wants to feel superior. He's one of those people who considers "queer" and "vegan" personality traits that elevate his woke self.
HAHAHA
You can import tho
I’m so shook “is it for convenience?” They’re literally telling you it’s almost impossible for you to find vegetable and fruit to survive on cause some places don’t have that luxury
I think the difference needs to be set clearly though. When she was talking about Icelandic villages, seh was referring to very small villages where people live off substeinance foods which include animal products due to issues with accesibility. That has nothing to do with the rest of the country, where you can easily be vegan. Most people can go vegan actually, you don't need any weird fancy products to have a healthy vegan diet. And for those who can't, it's an issue of accessibility, so it really is not their fault that they can't go vegan.
Hope this makes sense.
Jaleigh Bass yeah. He keeps going on and on about theoretical but Ignores the realities. It’s easy to focus on diet when you aren’t worried about general safety and survival. Not to mention veganism takes some research and trial and error. It’s not like you just start eating plants and everything goes smoothly.
monemori she brought it up because they were talking about visiting other countries. You may visit a place but you can’t find recourses for vegan food there.
@@monemori that's a great point 👍 I been trying to say that same exact thing but didn't know how
@@monemori most vegan ingredients are expensive. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's most definitely not a myth that lower class people, even in America cannot afford fruit and plants on a daily basis. It's just a fact.
I'm glad Elizabeth (the woman in the jean jacket) spoke about Perspectives according to other countries. While I was an exchange student in Japan, one of my friends who is Vegan struggled to find foods in some resturaunts when we decided to go out. Even when it came to some boba and coffee shops. Some of the 'vegan' options still had broth or animal products rather than plant based. People around the world have different 'vegan' or 'vegetarian' options. India would be safer option compared to America when it comes to these. I'm surprised within the first question they never mentioned Hinduism sects and other religion/faith that have vegan diets.
Hindus dont have vegan diets lmao ! Milk products are literally staple in most indian diets fyi !!
Elizabeth is incredible. Not only is she super stunning and beautiful 😍 but she also seems like such a really great and understanding person that you would love to be around and spend time with. I love her
erin: who are you...
richard: Im you, but stronger
Lol right. Imagine being in a locked room with both 😩
😂😂😂😭 YESS
@Dania Botello same lol
reb dunc AHAHAHAGA
YES
I feel like they all went out after this and didn’t invite Richard
Mari Skarstein agreed
Mari Skarstein I feel bad for Richard, he didn’t want to compromise on his morals and now everyone hates him.
feel like hes trying too hard to be so different, being gay and vegan yeah fine, but wearing a top showing it? dunno just feels like hes looking for attention
Mari Skarstein love this so much😂
@@ravenchild7517 well if we were talking about lgbtq rights or black rights then he would be praised for speaking his mind. He would be praised if he said he would not sit and eat with someone who is homophobic or racist. The thing is, veganism is so new that people who are not vegan will automatically hate them. They see two sides and hop onto the "not vegan side". Instead of having an open mind and researching into this new thing they don't know anything about like a mature or decent adult would, they instead would rather fight because they don't have the balls to admit they're doing harm. People are comfortable doing the same things, eating the same things. They don't want to be told it's killing animals, their bodies, humans, and the planet.
As much as I loooooooove Elizabeth, I want to say that I really respect Shawn as he might have been the only person to change his mind and move based on someone else's explanation, and he did it twice.
I love Elizabeth because she is not having the gatekeeping and holding her ground despite any herd mentality.
“It’s not fair to the animals to abuse our ignorance”
3 minutes earlier
“Can’t you find fruits or vegetables or a bean in the arctic circle”
Ikr, like yes Richard, fruits and vegetables grow in over abundance in the permafrost and the ice up in the arctic circle. Oh and they grow even better during the winter when the sun literally doesn’t come above the horizon for months at a time!
Jack K And you think someone can live their life on jelly and jam? No one is saying a fully meat based diet is the best for your health, but there really aren’t reasonable alternatives. Also, yes there are many vegan Alaskans, but there’s also a big difference between the most populated areas of Alaska, which are well developed cities where people have access to all the fruits and veggies they want, and small villages in the arctic circle, where it may be impossible to get those goods.
Alaskan cities and the artic circle are soooo different lmao
Tevin Lionel I think he forgot how plants work...obviously it can’t grow there if it isn’t a tree 🌲 that has the ability to grow out there. I know in certain cold climates you can eat pine nuts...but in other countries vegan or vegetarian diets aren’t sustainable.
@Jack K yeah there's flowering plants that are edible in the arctic circle, but if you think people living in the tundra are going to be able to sustain themselves on the ultimately meagre amount of local plants and the incredibly brief growing season, you're quite misguided. shopping isn't necessarily an option either. read about Food Security in Nunavut and you'll understand why. yeah vegans visiting have an alright time in the arctic, but what about the people who live there year round? i'm sure they aren't living on 10 dollar heads of lettuce and 20 dollar canteloupes. hunting for sustenance is integral to survival in canada and alaska's arctic. in order to survive anywhere that isn't a massive centre like anchorage you better hope to have deep pockets to survive on a vegan diet let alone an omnivorous one.
“tHErS’s NoT EvEn OnE BanAna or ApPlE” 😂😂😂
Christian Estrada so privileged it’s annoying
Because apparently you can get all your nutritional needs through apples and bananas
One banana is all it takes to make it through life
Or a bean 😂
Same energy as “ThAtS nOt VeGaN”
I like how chill and accepting Elizabeth is
watch dominon 2018 documentary which showcases conditions on factory farms
"You are a better person if you are a vegan."
Richard made a BEELINE for the strongly agree section. How did I know that he would....😂😂
@Abel Abel I was in no way shape or form implying that I am against or for veganism in my comment. Why are you trying to start a debate? You don't even know my stance (plus my comment was a joke.) Chill out.
well yeah lol vegans are better. not killing animals is more ethical than killing animals. aint nothing new here
Honestly when people discuss this I really wish more people would look at this philosophically as this question is one of these. If one stays that being vegan is a position that is consistent with their morals, while willing not being one makes one inconsistent with their morals.
The question here is, is being inconsistent with your morals a bad thing. Certain philosophers will say yes out of the fact that if you're inconsistent with your beliefs you don't really believe in your own beliefs.
I really wish people would just stop putting moral questions into this simplistic box.
Richard: *exists*
Erin: Finally a worthy opponent. Our battles will be legendary.
Hahaha!
Rachel the Great 💀💀💀 my lord they would be best friends but even better opponents
I’m kinda sad I get that reference 😂
who is Erin?
@@wiamhaddani She’s a monster. Look up the Vegan Odd Man Out.
MY DUDE THINKS A BANANA, APPLE AND A BEAN CAN SUSTAIN A PERSON😭😭😭😭
IM SCREAMIIIN😂😂
Go get your mans 😭
Easily. I’ve been vegan and eating those very items for 10 years, and I’m 52 and look and feel fantastic.
I feel like they can and if I was poor it would be 80% of my diet. Still not a reason to expect everyone to become vegan.
@@eleonoreo.4269 I thought it was funnier because he didnt pluralize it, he just said "a bean". Idk man. It really depends my mom grew up in poverty so they ate their animals and whatever was available to buy that they could afford. My mom never got a birthday present except for one year, her 8th birthday, in which she got a small bottle of coke to herself and didnt have to share. Sometimes these vegans are too privileged to see not anyone can afford it and take the time to make sure they're getting the right nutrients when people are working their asses off all the time to provide and care for their families.
*RICHARD is an example of a VEGAN ELITIST* He’s the reason why we are being hated or misjudged, *THANK YOU ELIZABETH* FOR REPRESENTING THE VEGAN COMMUNITY VERY WELL. Open minded and shares REALISTIC and different perspectives.
My husband is from a Third World country and he says this all the time - it really bothers him actually having really suffered in poverty - he says that the problem with American veganism is that Americans most of them have never known actual poverty or hunger and so veganism has become an elite position only accessible to privileged Americans. If you live in a Third World country where all you have to eat is a chicken or you will die you aren’t going to be vegan. To be philosophical about your food is an incredibly privileged position to take and we should all acknowledge that privilege.
To some degree but that’s a terrible example to compare low income Americans to a Third World country unless they live in California then I understand.
India was a third world country and has highest percentage of vegetarians and vegans whereas are next door neighbor pakistan and China have almost 95 percent of non vegetarian population. So your point doesn't make sense. Humans diet depend a lot on religion, ethical issues, personal choices.
RICHARD IS SO IRRITATING when this girl is talking about how some places literally DONT have an option to be vegan 24/7
He’s so out of touch.
Daisy Hart he was privileged as a child and it shows
That isn’t relevant to most of society that’s like saying other forms of exploitation are not as regulated elsewhere so let’s partake in that form of exploitation anyways. She was talking about small villages thats such a strawman argument I’m pretty sure almost everyone in this comment section using a phone to comment does not currently live in a tiny village in the middle of no where.
Victoria Alyssa no i’m a broke immigrant and I’m vegan
Yes omg I couldn't handle him! "Like you're telling me there's not even a banana..." No Richard there are no bananas in the arctic circle, not everyone has access, resources, and education to be vegan.
OH MY GOD DID THEY JUST MAKE AN ERIN JOKE AND IT WAS THE GUY SHE BASICALLY ATTACKED I-
I DIED
Wait when?
YoongiCanGetit Verkwan4LIFE right at the start
LITERALLY THE BEST THING TO HAVE EVER HAPPENED.
YoongiCanGetit Verkwan4LIFE 0:02
comparing “homophobia free days” to “meatless days” rubbed me the wrong way.
@Abel Abel Nah. What he did is called a logical fallacy and it negated his entire argument.
@Abel Abel the only similarity is that they both have a day where the thing in question is gone for a day or said amount of time (homophobia and meat). comparing something terrible like homophobia to the choice of not eating or using animal products just didn’t sit right with me. hence why i commented that it didn’t rub me the right way. just my opinion :)
As a gay I can confirm it pissed me off
@@Thecircustapes why?? sorry I’m just wondering, I don’t really get why the comparison is offensive
@@user-ui7tn1fq2b Im gay and it upsets me that my struggles and others like mine are used as an example for someone's diary choice, I just feel belittled and invalidated by it
When Richard was talking about the whole “do they not have fruits or vegetables out there at all” they r in the Arctic circle. Not the tropics. Or a supermarket. If people need to sustain themselves off of animals it is totally natural. Animals eat other animals and that is nature. being vegan is great and I totally respect them. but not respecting non vegans is not.
"Welcome back to Spectrum."
"That's not vegan"
THEY KNOW
i died at that part 😂
@Isabella Bass kinda nice to know they read the comments
I DIED LAUGHING AT THIS
Isabella Bass they did a video with them talking about Erin called “do all jubilee employees think the same”
Bowl of Oatmeal the first or second part?
Richard is one of those people who thinks people only don't like him because he's vegan or gay
right? like u're just annoying stfu
I'm your thousandth like😊
Freefall1357924 this right here !!!!!!
Idk if love at first sight is a thing but now I know dislike at first sight is a thing
And that means I learned something so in a way I'm thankful to him
Freefall1357924 all I know is I’m pulling out my cast iron skillet and a steak watching this.
PROPS to the girl in the jean jacket. she was so articulate and had so much to say but never shoved it in other peoples' faces/made it unpalatable.
"if you love me, you would do this..." is a horribly toxic mindset. My sister went plant based and when I visited her I refused to pick a lunch place unless there was something she could eat, but she would never tell me I have to do something if I love her. Check your toxicity.
Richard: *exist*
Erin: now that’s vegan
Cheyenne Alexa That’s hysterical!!!!!!!! 😂
OMG FULL CIRCLE
LMAOOO
AHAHAHAHA IM DYING.
They are both annoying af
*conversation about food desert and villages with hardly any food*
Richard: There isn't a BEAN???
elizabeth is such a gorgeous, educated, and open-minded queen!! i love how soft-spoken and articulate she is!!
watch dominon 2018 documentary which showcases conditions on factory farms and see if you think Elizabeth approach is best
I love Elizabeth she is just so calm and always says the right things
*BREAKING NEWS:*
Man discovers not everyone is as privileged as him.
This!!! Lol
eating meat is the real privilege honey
Jeez that guy annoys me
@@giovannavillagra7386 Veganism is not just about the diet remember ? Its a lifestyle. So that means using products that are not tested on animals etc and many other things.
B. E i never say that it wasn’t that? i’m a vegan myself. I just responded to the fact that meat is a huge privilege (in most parts of the world) i’m argentinian and although my country is one of the biggest meat producers, half the population struggles to buy meat because of its expensive price (but they rather that than become vegans/vegetarians because meat is part of our “culture”)
You do not turn people into vegans by attacking them and making them defensive. That's for sure.
Worked for me, I was called a hippocrite for hating China for eating dog meat yet eating bacon and steak.
We need to normalise changing mindsets upon learning new information.
Luke H Dog meat shouldn’t be eaten anyways
@@lukeh8056 I love how the west sits on their high horses. Maybe you don't know but poverty is a real thing. Sometimes they have to eat stuff you find disgusting
@@jboever85 do you eat the meat of other species?
100% agree.
Shame doesn't breed healthy growth. I eat mostly vegan with my spouse and through us just having friends over and having potlucks and answering their curiosity many of our family and friends now look forward to and request our animal-free meals and even ask for recipes to incorporate into their rotation.
I love this! On the leather question though. I think that we should also look into the sustainability factor here beyond the ethical. Vegan leather, as great as it may sound, is pure plastic - and thus, non-biodegradable. Faux leather (or pleather) has been around for quite some time in the fashion industry as a cheap alternative. However, companies have started to label it as vegan leather to attract a targeted group of costumers. Due to the new label, these products have also gotten ridiculously expensive, which do not coincide with their value and quality. I think that if one refrains from buying leather first hand but still wants to wear it, they should look into second hand leather instead. This does not support the company at all and one can also manage to give a new life to a garment that's already been made and worn. On another note though, I've heard that some smaller companies are experimenting with mushroom leather, which is pretty cool and I would love to support that (as long as the company itself is ethical).
Burger King employees check under their bed for Richard every night
the girls in a denim jacket seems like the kindest person in the world
Possibly because she has traveled all over the world so she has a better understanding of things.
She was in the Erin odd man out episode
yes! I loved how calm she was:)
Yup she is actually informed
If more vegans were like her, I think they'd have an easier and more successful time spreading their message! As opposed to being dogmatic and all-or-nothing about veganism. That really turns people off veganism.
why is no one talking about the fact he had the definition for veganism MEMORIZED.
@Uwusus Udududud You're disgusting
Jessica Rios no? why
annalise BRO i was deadass listening and reading to it and thought Wtf?!?!
@@CigdemO279 They used a homophobic slur
When people it's constantly asking about your lifestyle, you have to study so you can answer. If I got a dollar for every person that asked what veganism is I would be in Paris lol
When it comes to the leather question.. it isn’t really thought out. Second hand leather jackets are more sustainable than buying a brand new faux leather jacket.
Ever stop to think that sometimes the original owner wouldn't buy another jacket if no one bought their old jacket?
@@janieswanson2549 I mean from thrift stores, that’s where I do the majority of my shopping.
@@KyleJohnson-ms1mu Either way you're using animal products.
Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products.
No one is vegan in the modern world.
@@janieswanson2549 when did I say I was vegan lol. I’m saying it’s more sustainable. It’s better for the environment. If no one buys it from the thrift it goes to rag houses and then to landfills.
@@KyleJohnson-ms1mu "when did I say I was vegan lol"
When did I say you were?
I just made a comment.
The fact remains, animal products will continue to be used needlessly by people claiming they care about sustainability and the environment.
Richard saying there are fruits and vegetables everywhere omds the ignorance
Richard really thought they could grow fruits in the Arctic Circle 🤦♂️
And he thinks that everyone else is ignorant when they don't know everything about veganism😂 It's basic knowledge to know that in the arctic it is almost impossible to grow something😂
Well I live in the netherlands and we have orange juice. Not everything has to be local mate
@@str8gigachad124 Netherlands isn't that cold tbh😂 I live in Estonia (Next to Russia and Finland) where it's much colder. I have no idea about the climate names in English but we live in an area where in the winter it is usually between - 5°C to sometimes even - 20°C. (In the summer it's quite warm about 20-30°C usually). It is easy to grow potatos, carrots, apples, beans and so on, but in the Arctic the soil is usually frozen and cold so it is almost impossible to grow such things, also there are polar days and polar nights which make it even tougher.
@@str8gigachad124 plus the cost of the transportation for things like juices, vegetables, fruits and so on (also building materials) is really high in the Arctic
@@ljaanisoo2244 my point is that oranges don't grow in the netherlands yet we consume them. Now the same can happen in the arctic
Its funny how in *almost* every one of Jubilee’s videos there is just that one person everybody collectively dislikes
*literally* everyone. from the conservatives (for probably the wrong reasons), to the moderates and liberals, to the queer leftists (like myself). You just absolutely dont get by in life by shaming people into following your cause
@@s2sHoXXs2 *from the conservatives (for probably the wrong reasons)*
*You just absolutely dont get by in life by shaming people into following your cause*
Hmm ...
Isaiah Silverstein - i’m glad someone else caught that. lol!
Isaiah Silverstein - I’m glad someone else caught that, lol!
*q u e e r v e g a n*
3:50 "If you care about me as a person, how could you not change one meal?" manipulation 101
I'd like to see Richard move to a cold climate, & see how long he lasts only eating little berries and flowers for tea
*talks about small villages with barely any food
Richard: "THAT'S NOT VEGAN"
He just needs to be dropped off at the arctic circle and see how long he lasts. That would give him clarity.
Small villages with no food are not most of society thats a straw-man argument. If someone lived in a small village in the middle of no where then how would they even have access to phones or computers to watch this video? Most of society isn’t living like that. I’m a broke immigrant and i’m vegan.
Dude, if I was Vegan and went to Iceland and the only options are Lettuce and Salad. I would just go insane if I'm gonna eat JUST that for a week.
Chrone Nojysk Yh that's all vegans can eat right?
This kid is so clueless to the diets of the people that live in Iceland
“I spent 3 months near the artic circle”
“But they don’t have any fruits or vegetables”
Smh
Same
Dude with the queer shirt was definetly the Erin of that episode
I was like how the **** would they grow it, I mean there is importing but that would be a waste just to satisfy the little population that is vegan
@@noonereally. they are probably friends
Think it was more like it’s hard to get than not fruit, and you can’t live on bananas for 3 months, probably can but u know what I mean
'welcome back to spectrum'
'that's not vegan'
Lmao 😂
Love that you guys highlighted this!!!!
Richard: "We have to research our choices and can't be willfully ignorant"
Richard 5min before: "Are you saying bananas don't grow in the arctic circle?"
Truly the most ironic part of the video
bro has never been outside of america
the reality is that veganism is actually a privilege. That's why it's seen mostly in North america and not as much other places where there is genuinely a lack of resources. Some people are lucky to just get any food at all! I doubt they're paying attention to where it comes from. I get to be vegetarian because I live in Canada! but he doesn't get that it's not always that simple
rosie x yet so arrogant
lololololol
Producers: How can we take the heat off of Erin?
Casting Director: Send in Richard!
I bet my life this actually happened.
J A 7 why did he know the WHOLE definition by heart.....?
Richard is far more tolerable than Erin, still bad tho
J A 7 omg 💀💀💀💀💀
@@olivergbgbgb Eh, Idk I think I prefer Erin. At least her attitude was for the goal of trying to win the game. I can't say the same for this guy.
i’m vegan and i strive to be like elizabeth. she’s a shining example of what we should be like. she seems like such a genuine person.
Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while claiming to be vegan?
I’m kinda shocked that guy didn’t know about the climate in colder countries not allowing them access to fruits and vegetables it was one of the main things I learnt when I researching the vegan diet
Girl in the jean jacket definitely has some great perspective and knows how privilege works.
I so agree . She’s very open minded and not judgemental
Her background does the work for her. The fact she’s grown up in different cultures and all.
she was super understanding and open minded and had very logical points while i feel like others were more focused on themselves
She used an extreme to try and justify her weak point. Here's an idea- maybe if you're vegan DON'T travel to a remote village where they survive off meat? There are plenty of other places in the world to visit. Or maybe if you do need to travel there, bring your own damn food. Rice, beans, lentils, dehydrated meals, freeze dried fruits, etc. are all things you can easily travel with
@@alexlux8337 what extreme?
She said "there are not options" and he said "not even a banana"... His ignorance to his privilege is grotesquely annoying!
i think you can be vegan and eat sometimes like idk chocolate its not a club where u have to follow the rules... its something u do for youself and the animals
out of all vegetables/fruits he chooses to ask for the f banana 😂
that's real clown material
His tone and this comment screams privilege.
Ikr like what a moron what part of “there are no options” does he not comprehend. Esp for food deserts and arctic climates 🤦🏼♀️
@@gurlz8 you are on the Internet you are extremely privileged
I knew Richard would be an ass just by looking at his shirt. Just look at his shirt. His whole persona is based upon what is on his shirt. He can't talk about anything else, because he wants these two things to define him.
Richard: joins the group hug
the others: 👁👄👁
I feel like Richard didn’t get the concept that you’re body need more then an “banana,apple or bean” to survive in the artic circle
@Abel Abel keep dreaming.
@Abel Abel yes, especially in very cold climates.
Yeah but I think he was just ignorant of those habitats. He said you can’t get a banana, and the point was that no they literally can’t.
@Abel Abel But the foods you can easily acquire do. People will eat different things in different locations because they have completely different natural resources. Sometimes the most consistent, logical, and obtainable sources of protein are the things from that environment.
André Sweetman ikr bananas are literally one of the most tropical fruits i know 😂
why did he have the definition of veganism memorized
Because he is a militant vegan
I was listening to what he was saying and reading the description at the same time. I gagged!
Cause there seriously are people who claim honey or eating meat occasionally is vegan...
@@apalala4166 well, honey is not, It does however help maintain the bee population
Because being vegan is the only interesting thing about him.
I just showed my vegan friend this video and she told me “we don’t claim Richard”
Speaking for the gay community we don't claim him either
your friend is scared to hurt people's feelings unlike based king Richard
On behalf of the LGBT community we don't claim him either
@@Random-sk6hm - How do you expect anyone to accept the LGBT community if just two of you just wrote that you don't claim him? :-)
@@DatingForRealTH-camChannel its a joke. also I assume no one claims him not just us
Myself and many other vegans I know tend to buy second-hand clothing as it is more ethical and affordable. I think with the leather argument, some vegans do get it second-hand. I am not a fan of leather personally, but some people do get it used or given to them as well.
Is nobody gonna mention in the introduction he is literally the one who was attacked by Erin
ahhh great spot.
And Elizabeth was there too
He also subtly roasted Erin in the beginning, that was funny
Annathecommenter ikr lmfao I was like I’ve heard that sentence many times before🧐🤨
Theo LOLOL that’s why he said, “that’s not vegan.”
Being gay and vegan is Richard's whole identity
And he's completely useless other than these things
For real.
I feel like he speaks from such a privilaged place that he is almost ignorant to the cruel reality of people not having anything to eat.
Judge Dredd yea there is. Did you not watch the video? 🙄
@Judge Dredd that's not what they said. They said richard makes his personality completely about those two things. That he doesn't have any depth to him because all he is, is a gay vegan. They never said its wrong to be vegan or gay. Learn what it means to insinuate something.
Elizabeth is literally the epitome of what humans can be. Notice how she never goes on the strongly disagree or strongly agree, from the way she is talking, she understands that there always another side to the story. She is so informed and has an understanding of how culture, nutrition and accessibility plays into a diet.
@Abel Abel oops
That's not necessarily always a positive thing.
@@Smithpolly why would that be?
@@MOoHaOIO Something's are worth strongly agreeing or disagreeing with
@@Smithpolly Strong opinion lead to a decisive moment where your mind cannot change whether or not you are right. It is great to have an opinion but recognizing there is another opinion and being able to refute or defend that opinion is more important. An example would be radicals, their strong opinion have shown to have actually disenfranchise their own movement. It actually pushes people away because their mind are set that they are right and refuses to let others talk. It doesn’t mean they are wrong but it doesn’t allow a conversation. There is no point to have an argument if what you say have no way of convincing another. Most wars happen because we were not able to talk it out.
Honestly, if I was surrounded by ppl like Elizabeth, I might eat less meat, maybe be vegetarian (I don't want to promise veganism if I'm not bring honest). If I was surrounded by ppl like Richard, bruh, I'd stop hanging out with them and eat more animal products to spite them. I know it's petty, but that aggressive judgment backfires
I see you would eat more animals to spite someone ok
@@redkkloud People do lots of things to spite another.
@@sauropod1293 forgot about this comment. 9 months is a long time
@@redkkloud Lol, fun to come back to things from the past sometimes. And now you get to see me blabbing your eyes off ('cause i'm typing), which is a fantastic use of time.
@@sauropod1293 guess so
Erin:
Richard: "I'm coming for this girl's whole career"
y’all can’t find normal vegans can you jubilee
@@lizziejackson4107 i don't mind being friends with Elizabeth she's open-minded and vegan she seems cool
富查理殊Jarisuuu i’m cool with the other ones too just specific people-
She's still worse but he's almost there
elizabeth is so calm and nice, had a really good impression of her since I watched odd man out, cool to see her again.
I like how in every video there is one ahole
It is almost fascinating