@GhostRider-ce3eb taking supplements like a loser an a vegan diet is not thriving. It is clinging on to health, till they get sick and have to eat meat again.
Oh my goodness. I have started feeding my dogs, not all raw yet, but some meat and they have always had boiled eggs. My older dog maybe 13ish his eyes aren't all watery his face is dry 😮 he is nicer he was always crabby. I think he was allergic to his food. My female only 7lbs would pee maybe 10xs a day, so we use pup pads and she go's outside. I started to see she wasn't going as much. So I looked it up, and that will happen when they get off all the kibble. That is crazy, they might poop less also. Amazing
@@dellzywillis3001 My male Beagle named Piper is almost 16, his eyes are clear, has healthy joints, nice soft coat, good teeth too. He loves to sleep but he is very deserving of that. The only regret I have is not figuring out the sugar deception sooner, for myself and for all my canine companions of the past. The bagged carby food will make a dog fat and sick and all the while they are essentially malnourished, yes they are starving! It's all about the money, and they put a cute little puppy face on that dog food bag to suck you in.
@sunbeagle9769 I wish I had known this so many years ago. I hope my dogs make it to 16 or older! I'm glad we have figured this out. 😃 I must say, though, I was telling someone else how well my dogs are doing and a coworker is going to be trying it. BUT others are not so open . It blew my mind. So I just say ok. Apparently, some vets will say chicken and beef are the 2 most inflammatory foods you can give your dogs. 🙄 I said ok good luck. I hope it gets better . I watch so many videos I forget how narrow minded people can be. Anyway, have a great night
The goat farmer ! 👍👌 very intelligent man who has educated himself with the facts. Practice what he preachs by following great free range farming practices
We aren't. You meatheads messed up your britches after the gamechangers movie came out. The meat and dairy industry lost billions. And now you are scrambling trying to do damage control. It's amusing to watch.
@henryjackman3160 Not all vegans are sanctimonious about being vegan, and insufferable. I am vegan (have been for 55 years) and I don't think I am like that.
@@michaelmaguire5594 Always in a state of being hungry. You know nothing. If I eat a bowl of mung bean and sweet potato mash. I won't eat again for at least 12 hours. Nothing on this earth will fill you up like that.
As someone who lives out in the country :;; Farmers know their s*t! Wisdom passed down after generation after generation. You will NEVER win a fight with them. They are simple people who know how to survive. I have nothing but love and respect for them.
The simple is this : God chose the simple things of the world to confound the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things-and the things that are not-to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him. Note:- The word “confound” is kataishuno, which means to put to shame, to embarrass, to confuse, to frustrate, or to baffle. The thing with the "NEW Kids" they all grow up in a world where knowledge is more vast than in any times previous but are so stupid they do not do the proper RESEARCH and can never prove their point. I wanna see just 1 Vegan get protein from Broccoli, that would be a neat trick in that it has NONE, never has and never will. So what you are left with BEANS? (which include pesticides and chemical that never existed 150 years ago. Today's Humans are nearly 1/2 as healthy as all the previous generations before. you can thank all the processed veggies, beans, and chemicals for that. When have the human race ever reported such Vast and numerous cases of Autism since the 60's? Never before. Diet is the sole cause. Don't believe some shit ya hear and EDUCATE YOURSELF FIRST ....... do the research, do the science, do the WORK LONG BEFORE YA OPEN YOUR STUPID HOLE AND SPEW PURE FABRICATIONS.
I’m a vegetarian, no meat, fish or eggs, but that’s because I don’t like the taste and texture. My kids eat everything and I cook for them. I just don’t eat it myself. Why should I impose my personal taste on them? I wear leather shoes, bags etc and enjoy dairy - milk in coffee and yoghurt. That’s my CHOICE. No one has the right to tell anyone else what to eat!
Ironic that my own child tried that shit on me. She went Vegan for a while and though she is not 100% she does try to eat healthy. I found that she still packs on the pounds, maybe 15-20 too much, but I told her I eat meat and have all my life and i am NOT changing now in my 60's.
As someone who has experienced light levels of poverty (real poverty, like having to split a medium sized can of tuna in 7), meat can become a luxury, and being able to afford and eat meat, improves health and wellbeing tremendously, the benefits of eating meat make a huge impact on poor people.
How? The less people eat meat the more expensive it gets because it's a year and a half of work raising an animal for people to eat only 2 steaks and getting rotten after 3 days in the supermarket shelves...
We don't need their education........We don't need their thought control.....no dark sarcasm in the classrooms ( brainwashing our kids). They're just another Brick in the wall, (of bad decisions!)🦩🦩🦩🦩
My daughter’s 19 year old friend was a vegan for years. When she broke her leg snow skiing her Dr said she had the bones of a 50 year old. That should tell you enough.
@@D4rkBl4de the ironic thing here is that firstly, meat is objectively worse for your health. And secondly, the idea of a cruelty free farm, if it’s commercially creating meat, is nonsense.
As if shouting at someone like a maniac will suddenly make him agree to your opinion. They should know you only achieve the opposite, but then .. they arent smart.
@@monkeybalconey To be fair, there are some extremely close tasting and texture products made from soya and peas these days. They even found ways to simulate the blood in some burgers. So they can have their cake and eat it if they want to. They probably do.
That 'vegan leather' plastic belt will be discarded a long time before a leather belt will be discarded. Leather in a landfill is significantly better than plastic in a landfill. I always get leather belts. I think they are *more* environmentally friendly. I used to get plastic wallets but they never lasted more than a year or two. My last two wallets were leather. The previous leather wallet lasted something like 15 years and I've had my current leather wallet well over 10 years. Still in good condition with no splits and good stitching.
I have the same non-plastic, non-leather, belt for the last 20 years. My vegan walking boots i have have for about 8 years and although i do not wear them constantly they have been through some rough terrain and have at least 1,500 miles on them and they still look as good as new.
@@criticalthinker8007 Many vegans (clearly not you), choose plastic over leather when cloth and other materials are not a deciding factor, and somehow think that is better for the environment.
@@criticalthinker8007 You use animal products from the same animals that we eat. No point in pretending so hard. Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
I have a friend who was vegan. I invited her to Winter Solstice dinner a few years ago and made a Medieval, vegan dinner for us. The first thing she asked was, "Where are the meat substitute dishes?" I replied, "Vegan don't eat any animal products, so I made dishes from natural botanical products. If veganism is so healthy, why do you want meat substitutes to begin with?" That stopped her in her tracks. I then pulled out a bunch of Medieval meat/fish, milk, egg, etc dishes for me. I said, "I hope you don't mind." She was a bit flustered, more so when I took some of the vegan dishes and offered her some of mine. She kept glancing at my plate and the dishes I'd made for myself. She finally said, "If I eat some of the non-vegan stuff, you won't tell, will you?" I said, "of course not." She ended up devouring all the non-vegan dishes and within a month quietly went back to being an omnivore. :)
only vegans i trust are the shojin ryori practitioners , buddhist veganism is less about not eating meat and more about a devout adherence to a spiritual philosophy. its why after i left my farm i grew up on i switched to that diet, been a vegan buddhist 28 years now and never once had a problem with sticking to it, most vegans are sheople, following the trends and fads just to claim superiority over others
They often put their choice on their children. Children needs to grow and they need a bit of "everything" in their diet, so they are basically starving their children. They also want to ban meat production in EU, this is horrible.
One step at a time to educate you fools the farmer knows all his animals by name ahh that's so cute but at the end of the day he's mainly reason for having the animals is for his income
Ask the same questions in a couple of years, when these vegan kids are a little more adult and less naive.. You’ll be suprised that most of them have started eating meat again.
@@paulhillar1833 Sweatshops in Bangladesh, Cambodia, Vietnam, India, etc. The cotton will have come from all cotton producing countries in the world, the dyes are devastating to the ecosystem and to people. But once a self anointed saint vegan wears any of it, they become environmentally blessed.
@@monkeybalconey so fucking what? Free market capitalism says I can make money wherever the money is. He chose to be a farmer and it SOUNDS LIKE HE’S DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. It could be worse. He’s saying not all farms treat their animals like a number. They make him money but they aren’t a tool. They are live creatures and they deserve and DO get treated as such. You’re just as bad as a vegan imo. Gtfo.
That joke about a vegan and a vegetarian jumping off a cliff to see who reach bottom first, with the question that who wins and the answer being society... never gets old.
@@bbybeatboxx "How is stripping the planet of all its natural resources a win for society?" How is that a valid question, given that society is not doing that?
Oh my god, finally, after literally six years on internet, first vegan with good reason. I am crying right now, my friend. It happened and I already cease to belive!
It isn't necessary the right choice, see oxalate present in vegetable. Plus all the other elements don't available or accessible following a vegan diet. Using certain supplement (most of them are bad) or worse medicine don't make-up for it.
There's a chicken farm in Kent that recently started marketing eggs as vegan friendly because the chickens are free range. Absolutely made me roll my eyes, sign and laugh at the same time.
1:58 no! No no nonono, That means that our diet, To make us the healthiest possible specimen we can be, MUST include both meat AND plants (removing plants from your diet results in the loss of vitamins and supplements, while removing meat results in the loss of proteins and minerals) we NEED both to survive and thrive
My husband is a rancher. Been working his grandfather's ranch since he was 3. I have watched my husband stay up all night with a sick animal. Watched my husband lower his hat down when he had to put an animal out of their misery. Oil based animal friendly fake leather. Lol
Cultists don't care about reality. They have their own narrative that takes precedence over all else. Also, people need to remember where oil comes from. Do they know it comes from long dead animals?
I have chosen to be vegan but I am not going to criticize your husband one bit. His life; his choice. And I'm not exactly thrilled by the utility of fake leather. Even the most sophisticated, breathable, fake leather materials, leave a lot to be desired. I will say that all my cars have fabric seats, not leather seats. The couch in my living room has a nice comfortable fabric. Not sure why anyone would prefer leather in these situation. As far as shoes go, in rainy or snowy weather real leather seems to outperform any fake leather and any fabric that I have seen, whether the fabric is made from plant fibers such as cotton, from fossil fuels such as polyester or acrylic, or made from a combination of fibers. But as far as seating used indoors, I don't see any need for either leather or fake leather. We are here on earth together. We have differences, and life is best if we accept each other's differences, accept the fact that people do things differently than other people, without bitching about this. I don't like to cause animals to suffer, but I value human life more than I value animal life.
@@bbybeatboxxYou can imagine he’d be picky about which get harvested, if you have a pet which you would cry over because they’re in a bad condition and need to be put down, or is clearly nearing the end of it’s life, you’ll understand. A pet, you make friends with, you can assume that to a good rancher,their livestock are like their pets.
Funnily one of my friends is vegan, he is completely chill about it. Once he visited me and my ex, and started eatign some of our Gummie cola bottle things(its a snack you can buy here). My ex intertjected:" You know these arent vegan, right?" That friends reaction was to basically shush us while stuffing another in his mouth. Love it. So yeah he is mostly vegan, but if a cravign or so comes...or its impracticle...
Something that kills me is when a vegan says eating eggs is eating baby chickens. Obviously, they don't realize that the eggs bought in a grocery store are not fertilized so have no.chics developing in them.
Maybe they should start arguing that people are eating half a chicken. And I will start arguing that every seed they eat is a plant that doesn't get to grow.
I have a flock of chickens, and knowing my rooster, I'll bet all my eggs are naturally fertilized. I always like to throw that to the vegans just to illustrate how much I don't care about their argument.
As a born and raised farmer...The Argument of FaRmInG iS AbUsIvE is absolute bunk. I can remember more times that my family, fevering sick and desperately needing to stay out of frigid winter conditions went out because one of our cows had just had a calf and that baby needed some where dry and warm so we took her and her calf into a heated barn, set down fresh clean straw and got her all the good hay and feed she could eat and clean fresh water she could drink, again...While I alone was running a fever of 101.... These idiots don't have ANY idea what people do to make sure their animals have the BEST life possible, how much we care about EVERY life on our farms. I BAWLED my eyes out when one of my favorite cows took ill, and did everything I could to help her. Even though at the end of the day and her thirteen long years of happy life, when she had no teeth and couldn't feed herself properly anymore...she went to sale. So if these fools want to tell someone like me that I don't care about the lives of my animals...Just because they can't stomache the fact we are Omnivorous and NEED meat for its nutrients and proteins , they can stuff it right up where the sun dont shine and suck on their tasteless 'fruit jerky'.
@@laceyshort972 it’s a lovely narrative that you are trying to spin with a load of fluffy rubbish to make you look good, but the simple and fundamental fact is that you cannot kill something for money and pretend you care about it. Because those two things are binary opposites. If someone bought a dog and ever 2 years killed it and cut it up then took its puppies, let them grow and did the same thing they would be making Netflix documentaries about them as being one of the most demented people imaginable.
@ the assumption isn’t that all farms are factory farms. The assumption is that over 98% of animals in agriculture are in factory farms. Which is based on the fact that it’s correct.
@ the assumption isn’t that all farms are factory farms. The assumption is that over 98% of animals in agriculture are in factory farms. Which is based on the fact that it’s correct.
Love this video and this farmer!! Wish he was in my area so I could visit his farm and also buy meat from him!! Love it when he said If he is cruel to his goats then WHY do they run to greet him when he walks out to them? Don't think this girl has EVER been to a real farm where the animals are loved and well cared for! Thanks for this video. I just wish the vegans had enough mental clarity to LISTEN to the facts about what type of farming causes more damage to our planet and our health!! ❤🤗🙏🙏
It's a great point he made. The animals are thankful and don't feel threatened at all. You're probably right. Most likely, she hasn't visited a proper farm.
A real farm that sells meat to the masses is a horrendous place, not Worthy of defending. What percentage of farmers who produce meat for the United States farm like this guy? This guy is like a hobby farmer who sells locally. That girl is lumping all farming into one so her bad on that. But the reality is the vast majority of our mean comes from tortured animals. That guy's farm sounds awesome! What percentage of the population does heap provide for versus say Foster farms chicken?
@@middle-agedmacdonald2965 I live in Canada, lots of farms around me with cows walking on fields eating grass. Not as rare case. I buy grass fed beef only locally. People should support such farmers and avoid big corporations.
Blasting people afflicted with cognitive dissonance is not effective in changing minds. You have to engage people into self-introspection of the ideas and beliefs they've collected, cause them one way or another to ask questions, challenge them to go deeper on their principles and BE NEUTRAL and EMPATHETIC as much as possible. To turn on the "fact blast" and "counter argument" hose and spray it at people, will not change their minds. In fact, it'll make them more determined that they are "right."
4:03 Sri Lankan here, we did not starve & that whole organic drama was to cover up the fact that we didn't have enough $ to pay for the imports 🤭. Yea we were broke. Now doing OK actually 😂 & we do eat meat & fish a lot.
Hi 👋🏼 The chemical fertilizer ban in Sri Lanka did cause a lot of damage to our agriculture industry. Crop yields reduced, food prices increased and it directly or indirectly worsened our economic situation. If you think about it I'm sure many families did starve because of the higher food prices.
@Dragumix that statement could be funny, could be scary, or it could be kinda gross... please explain in detail what you mean by that... I just want to understand and not imagine the wrong picture... will you cook or go raw... do you use utensils or just gnash and bare hand that shit??? Paint me a picture...edit: oh-oh-oh, i was so dumb... I figured it out... I know what you would would have to eat 3rd hand, and that's just nasty, dude
I tried to be a vegan when I met my first love in 2018. But seeing how weak her body was when she contracted pneumonia at 19; you can tell the body lacked the nutrients found in actual protein. And yes she passed at age of 19, her ghost still haunts me to this day! My point being; being a vegan isn’t actually benefiting anybody. In a nutritional standpoint, the body cannot retain any natural form of protein, or not enough to remain healthy. Meat allows one to actually retain a healthy body fat ratio, enough to actually prevent a body from fully collapsing when receiving any type of cold or flu!
@@bbybeatboxxYou’re… really bad at rage-baiting, you know? You’ve been on every comment, made up every kind of shit or nonsense to get people’s responses, hell I even responded to one of your prior comments thinking it was genuine thing but no, it’s all one man, all spam, you really think people are gonna buy your crap? Shove off ya damn photosynthetic melon.
Only a matter of time before your arteries clog up your blood pressure soars your cholesterol is off the scales and then u go to doc who will tell u to change ur diet lol
@@monkeybalconey One of my brothers has been a vegetarian since the seventies and had a massive heart attack from clogged arteries. Like I said, you do you.
I have eaten a carnivore diet for three and a half years and have reversed my very painful autoimmune conditions. I love it and even more love not being in pain. I’m more healthy than I’ve ever been, fitter, stronger, more stamina and flexibility. I’ve been vegetarian and vegan, and I shall never eat a crappy plant based diet again. Others can eat what they want, but I love eating meat!😊
@@thirstonhowellthebird I do take an electrolyte capsule most days, if it’s really hot and I’m drinking more I might take a second, but not often. I only did that because I found manually working outside all day I was flagging a bit so was tempted to a caffeinated coffee and I wanted to cut it down my coffee until I quit it. I don’t like salty water so chose capsules.
@@anitachisnell8412 - Carnivore here. I don't use any supplements on carnivore. Although I did use them before. In fact I still have a cardboard box full of the supplements I used! Calcium, magnesium, vitamins C, D, B... etc. a bunch of "ridiculous" stuff. It's amazing the amount of crap we consume(d)! For what it's worth while on carnivore I never felt better in all my life. And I'm 55. At the carnivore beginning I did have a few episodes of severe leg cramps. Usually quickly corrected with a salty steak and water! My record, was waking up with terrible leg cramps at 3 AM. Limp to the stove make a small steak, consume it. 10/15 minutes after it was 100% gone! Simple, quick and basic. ;-)
@@carlosipec2270 Hi Carlos, I’m 63 and feeling like I’m in my 30’s. I was taking supplements until a month ago, and will restart in autumn. I’m in the UK. Yes those leg cramps hurt, like you I get a glass of water, I tend to pop an electrolyte capsule in during the day, occasionally two on hot days. The cramps are getting less often though. It’s a good feeling isn’t it when you find the food that keeps you thriving and feeling better than before. Thank you for your reply, take care!
I had 12 free range chickens and they all lived happy healthy long lives and all passed from old age the only one left alive is still producing eggs to this day and we've had them since they were babies
@@joeblow2069 you say he is ‘not a hypocrite’ but what he’s saying is clearly untrue. As a milk farmer, male goats are of zero use to him. They drink the milk he is trying to sell. There is zero chance he is just happily raising hundreds of male goats at his own expense for the good of humanity. No chance at all.
we had a fruitarian girl work for us for a few weeks, she spent the entire time telling us all everything wrong with what we were eating and every ingredient so as joke we drew faces on Her fruit, she quit the next day. the morale of the story is keep yo crazy to yourself.
To say we are carnivores is crazy because Biology tells us that we are omnivores. We can live by eating almost only meat and we can live by eating pretty much only plants and mushrooms. If I was a carnivore, I would already be dead because I didn't eat meat for more than 13 years.
@@Dragumix I think it is best to classify our dietary category by what it is that we eat, not by want physical structures we have. Keep in mind the Chinese Panda, which has a digestive system resembling that of a carnivore, but whose actual diet consists of one species of bamboo. Despite its digestive system, it is classified as an herbivore. It is classified by what it actually eats. Humans are known to eat everything imaginable that they can possibly eat. So I would classify us as omnivores. In addition, our digestive systems appear to be adapted to this kind of diet. So this provides more reason for me to classify us a omnivores. My understanding is that being an omnivore doesn't mean we _must_ eat a little bit of everything. Rather, I think it it means we are _able_ to subsist on most anything. We aren't limited to just one type of food, the way the Chinese Panda is.
I watched a video on TH-cam, and the woman said her partner was going to make plant based tuna pasta bake ! I had to comment😮. i said last time i saw tuna it was a fish, not a plant, and it swims in th sea😊
By definition, an omnivore is an animal that is capable of living on either plant or animal food, or both. Humans have lived by eating mostly animal flesh. Humans have lived by eating mostly plants. Humans have lived by eating both. That shows that we are omnivores. What we have been capable of living upon shows that we are omnivores. To determine if an animal is an omnivore herbivore or carnivore you look at what it eats in the wild rather than try to guess what it is by looking at its digestive system. The chinese panda for example has a digestive tract that looks like that of a carnivore, however in the wild (and in captivity too) it eats only a certain kind of bamboo - making it an herbivore. Zoo operators have found that chinese pandas get sick if you introduce animal foods into their diet!
Farmer: 'You've never visited my place.' Vegan: 'How do you know?' Vegan seconds later: 'And what animals do you farm?' Showing he was right in calling her out.
It's important to allow vegans to eat what they want... However they ought to be studied so that future generations can understand what happens to the human body. Their subsequent behaviours, and declines in their ability to control their moods and emotions, should also be monitored so that people can understand the source of their hysteria in order to be able take and manage appropriate precautions, remedies and/or ameliorations .
Take a look at elephants monkeys fish insects they don't it meat and they been healthy for thousands of years remember the Holocaust the Germans thought it was ok to gas the Jews until the right people came and saved some of them
@@monkeybalconey They have different biology and some of them do in fact eat other animals. Fish eat other fish all of the time. Why do you make things up so often?
As a non-hunter, I can testify that most of the people I know(a lot in Tennessee) who hunt regularly do seem to have a deeper level of knowledge and respect for the animals they are hunting. I love animals but have always gotten the sense when I talk to hunters that even though they hunt deer they love and admire them more than anyone.
@@MaximusLigmus I’m not. I’m actually just putting into perspective the absolute insanity of justifying killing something because you ‘love and admire it more than anyone’. If i shot a dog because i loved it more than anyone I would get locked up.
@@Audioremedy0785 Again, comparing hunting for food to killing for fun. You either genuinely do not get it which speaks to your actual character or are just trying to find something to argue about.
@@MaximusLigmus so if I was killing the dog because I wanted to eat it, that makes it ok in your eyes? To me it makes it worse. It’s exactly the same scenario, but I’m just doing it to a dog rather than a deer. The reality is that it doesn’t matter what it is, it’s wrong. And it also disproves your theory that humans have a natural desire to hunt as if we did, supermarkets would not sell meat and we would hunt it ourselves. But as we have no desire to hunt, people who eat meat get it from Costco…. The argument is laughably weak on every conceivable level.
@@monkeybalconey There is no healthy plants only diet for us. We are all omnivores. Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
What makes me laugh is, the doctors that started all this veganism business have either died off, or crawled away years ago. We haven't heard from them in years. They know they were talking crap.
@@thatonewitch How old are you? Do you remember any of the doctors that used to preach veganism on-line twenty-five years ago? They're long gone. Not around anymore. You can occasionally find their lectures on YT but they're about a decade old.
John Dutton (Kevin Costner) answered this argument better than anyone else. How cute do you want the animal to be before you kill it to provide your plant based diet.
I remember years ago having a barbeque & one friend brought her own veggie burgers. She said after eating them that they were really tasty, more than usual & must be because of the coals on the barbeque. My husband told me later that they were so dry he drizzled them in fat from the steaks to make them cook better lol.
Exactly my grandparents are 80+ and still running around all day and night, i had to go help bring a calf last week in the middle of the night. Farmers care more about animals then any of these nutters could, for them it's a once a week thing or 9-5 but depending on animals to be your breadwinning is something totally different, would be counter productive to abuse them.
For them to say: “Just grow organic, it’s not that hard.” Just really shows that they don’t appreciate the farmers at all. That is a difficult task. And there are also such things as organic pesticides. So there are still pesticides anyway 😂
@@bbybeatboxx What's the connection between Santa and veganism? Animals do get scrubs and belly rubs before being brought to the slaughter house depending on the farmer.
My dad said his father was so mean that at the sound of his voice the cows would stop giving milk. But like this farmer said: treat them right and they will flock to you.
Let's educate the beef eaters most of us were brought up eating dairy products so it was the norm but we weren't educated or show where or how I food arrives on dinner plates in the last century only the elite and wealthy people cud afford to eat meat while the masses lived on fruit vegetables grains etc and were still here
They even name it like the thing it is suppose to look and taste like, it's fraud. i took the wrong thing once and ended up with fake chicken and it did not taste like chicken...
Normal people (i.e. carnivores) couldn't possibly act like the weed-munchers do. Meat-eaters have a fully developed brain and body. Vegetablists have an atrophied body and a weak and feeble mind leading to erratic thought processes. Vegans are the epitome of reverse-Darwinism.
@@Audioremedy0785 So do you. Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
@@Audioremedy0785 Many things are made with animal products. Asphalt, some types of money, motor vehicles, electronics with processors, some housing materials, etc... How did you needlessly reply on this totally avoidable entertainment platform without using several things with processors? Smoke signals? Thanks for the easy win and your concession due to your evasion and deceit.
@@bbybeatboxx They are being fed with hay and industry waste for the most part. Care to show a healthy plants only diet study? We both know you won't. Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
I think we could just leave it to nature and evolution. If eating poorly causes healths issues then healthy and stronger animals will eventually outcompete the weaklings. Vegans vs Carnivores, I know where my bets are ❤
Ok. Well, much as I like a good steak, lets throw a spanner in your works shall we? We humans cannot absorb certain nutrients, mostly vitamins, from meat. We need plants for those. The most well known of these of course is Vitamin C. In other words, if you eat ONLY meat, with nothing else, you WILL die of malnutrition, most probably scurvy, the common name for vitamin C deficiency. Humans are Omnivores, not carnivores, and we ACTUALLY do best on a mix of meat and plant in our diet. All the so called 'carnivores' in this channel can blather at you otherwise, but I will absolutely guarantee you that they are not eating only meat, or if they are they are taking vitamin supplements... Just like Vegans have to....
@@alganhar1, Even Bears are omnivores, except for the polar bear which is living in it shittist existence of eating seal fat because berries are absent.
@@alganhar1 Simple not true, do some research. Meat does contain vitamin c, even more so in organ meats. Plus the body requires less vitamin c due to the reduced oxidative stress by not consuming carbohydrates.
@@CaptainEverythingHumorandMore what do you mean by this? How is life experience going to change her perspective? Do you think that if she is older she would be more tolerant of animals suffering?
@@Audioremedy0785No, if she would be older she would realize that this is life. Life in the jungles for the animals was a lot less humane. Thats why we call humans who act bad as animals
@@hamzaiqbal7178 I don’t think you understand the conversation. It’s not about the behaviour of ‘wild animals’ and animals in the wild. It’s talking about humans who have the intelligence and facility to make choice. She’s not wrong at all. She’s 100% right.
Why do vegans want their fake meat to taste like meat? You'd think they'd find it repulsive. I knew a vegan who wouldn't even wear wool because she said that shearing sheep hurt the sheep. I knew a sheep shearer....watched him many times. I never saw one sheep get hurt.
What actually hurts sheep is when they're not shorn. They were bred to produce much more wool than wild ones do and not shed it. They get horribly overgrown and suffer. Same with llamas.
Umm not all vegans like eating seed oils. Its about ethics not health, despite a whole foods plant based being the only diet proven to safely reverse disease.
LEE... THIS WAS FANTASTIC!!! You've really put out some outstanding content! Thank you and I'm sooo glad to see you back and your ol self again! When you hurt...we all hurt that you were in such pain. YOU'RE BACK NOW MY FRIEND! 🎉
Something else ive realized from going carnivore for the past year is that my own personal experience overrides the so called "authorities" on nutrition in a very powerful way, especially when discussing nutrition with people. The amount of personal positive results with some knowledge is so much more persuasive and compelling than that one guy who was arguing from a point of view that appeals to authority.
@@bbybeatboxx which is one reason why i support local farmers who use regenerative cattle farming. The animals aren't factory farmed in those situations. If your position is that you're against death in all forms for animals then you have a childish position. all humans have evolved as obligate carnivores. It's in your design as part of the human species to eat meat as the most nutrient dense option. You don't have to eat meat with today's modern conveniences, but you then rob yourself of your optimal health by ignoring this fact.
Great video! Vegans want everyone else to eat what is good for the planet, animals or anything that is not YOU. Carnivores tell you about their fantastic experience and want you to have as much enjoyment from life as they are having. Carnivore is human centric. Veganism is selfless (in the true worst sense of the word) suffering for what is thought to be the animals, the planet etc. and turns out to be hurting the planet, animals, etc. The purest form of "Sanction of the Victim." Touché CCP
Veganism goes against human health, against our evolution as meat eaters, against our flourishing as a species. It is not the proper human diet. To be sure, abusive animal farming practices should be contested and eradicated/minimised, but we don't need to pretend that it's healthier for humans to eat no meat. We are not gorillas.
How is WOOL abusive? Sheep have to be sheared or they get horribly matted, fly strike etc. No, mulesing isn’t okay (and many places don’t do it any more) but outside of that, wtf? I’ve been processing fleece from local sheep farmers for years and not once have I seen any cruelty. Do they think sheep have to die to give their wool, or something?
I think the sheep they breed for wool can't survive without humans. Wild sheep don't produce wool so rapidly. I guess there's an argument that we "created" animals that we treat like plants: sheep that require sheering, cows that require milking, etc.
@@JustMeUpNorth the process of collecting wool is not abusive. However given the ‘factory’ setting in which the animals live, it’s deemed that their living standards and quality of life is very low.
@@Audioremedy0785 Good point. My aunt and uncle had a sheep ranch for most of my life. The pastures along the Coquille River where the sheep raise definitely had that "factory" setting for them to live in. (I never face sarcasm when dealing with stupid)
@@paulmartin2348 yeah but let’s be realistic - how much of sheep farming is actually like that. I’m sure in some counties it’s ok - but it’s an industry where profit is king.
@@obiorah1 my thoughts exactly! Animal products have COMPLETE proteins and ALL the amino acids we need. IF this is possible with plants, you have to learn what combination you need to get adequate protein!! Keep it simple, eat meat and eggs!! ❤️❤️
Any discussion of nutrients should also include whether these nutrients are accessible. Some nutrients in plants are not accessible to humans eating the plants. Meat offers the most access to nutrients.
@@DrydenOk it makes me laugh when people write stuff like this. It just comes from a complete lack of understanding of vegan principles. A vegan believes that we should make ethical choices where possible and reduce suffering as much as possible. So if an unborn baby is diagnosed with an injury that would result in low to zero quality of life, how does the concept of abortion compromise their principles?
@@Audioremedy0785 it makes me laugh when prochoicers take worst case scenarios as justification for using abortion as contraception. Prochoicers always ask about child being r-d or dieing mother etc. But they always want laws to let healthy mother kill healthy child.
Vegans don't go into the wilderness. They also don't care for livestock or know anything about them. They have a fantasy view of animals, based on Disney cartoons, not how real animals are. Veganism is an eating disorder and as much a mental health issue as anorexia.
I would like them to live on a seasonal diet in the Northern hemisphere. Cut out all the exotics flown in from across the world. Eat the fruit available in England in December - stored apples. Eat the leafy vegetables available in January - cabbage mainly with a few brussel sprouts. The "rainbow plate" belongs in the same place as the unicorn.
@@bbybeatboxx Love how your comments range from trying to be thought inducing into becoming straight up insults. You call out other commenters for being cherry-pickers and now you're insulting the old man for being old (ad hominem).
I don't care what these crazies do and eat. Just DON'T tell me what I should and shouldn't do and eat! Controlling others to make yourself feel better is a FOOLS ERRAND!
I was vegan for choice but I never judge what other people eat. Is not my business, at the end of 4 years I start to loose so much collagen my neck was wrinkle and my joints painful. Now I am eating eggs and feeling better. Eat what is right for you and support farmer.
No he is not, I would dismantle all of those argument's in seconds, its just she is a shit debater or you wouldn't be watching the video in the first place because you would be too triggered. 🤣
Who are you to say soya doesn't feel pain? Plants bleed sap and retreat from injury. Just because they have no voice doesn't mean they don't feel any sensation. Very arrogant.
@@ronniecahill-w9f vegans do understand this. However plants level of sentience and suffering is significantly lower than that of animals. Good try though!
Plants literally made multiple physical and chemical defense systems, just because human ignored plant defense systems, doesn't mean the plants want to be eaten.
I had ferret owners complaining that their ferrets keep dying. Found out they were feeding them cheap kibbles & also vegan as well. Ferrets are CARNIVORE
They say humans can survive on a plant diet. I don't want to just survive, I want to live.
thrive not survive
As someone who taught wilderness survival in Canada’s back country, I can guarantee you that they wouldn’t survive on plants. 🌱
@@nancychandler768agreed! What veg can you live on in winter?
they dont thrive on a plant diet, and their survival is the worse.
@GhostRider-ce3eb taking supplements like a loser an a vegan diet is not thriving. It is clinging on to health, till they get sick and have to eat meat again.
Vegans call farmers abusive but feed their carnivore pets a vegan diet 🙄
Absolutely, feeding highly processed extruded carbs out of a bag is a life shortening diet.
Oh my goodness. I have started feeding my dogs, not all raw yet, but some meat and they have always had boiled eggs. My older dog maybe 13ish his eyes aren't all watery his face is dry 😮 he is nicer he was always crabby. I think he was allergic to his food. My female only 7lbs would pee maybe 10xs a day, so we use pup pads and she go's outside. I started to see she wasn't going as much. So I looked it up, and that will happen when they get off all the kibble. That is crazy, they might poop less also. Amazing
@@dellzywillis3001 My male Beagle named Piper is almost 16, his eyes are clear, has healthy joints, nice soft coat, good teeth too. He loves to sleep but he is very deserving of that. The only regret I have is not figuring out the sugar deception sooner, for myself and for all my canine companions of the past. The bagged carby food will make a dog fat and sick and all the while they are essentially malnourished, yes they are starving! It's all about the money, and they put a cute little puppy face on that dog food bag to suck you in.
@@dellzywillis3001 Indeed, the dog will poop less because real meat nutrients are metabolized and not expelled.
@sunbeagle9769 I wish I had known this so many years ago.
I hope my dogs make it to 16 or older! I'm glad we have figured this out. 😃
I must say, though, I was telling someone else how well my dogs are doing and a coworker is going to be trying it. BUT others are not so open . It blew my mind. So I just say ok. Apparently, some vets will say chicken and beef are the 2 most inflammatory foods you can give your dogs. 🙄 I said ok good luck. I hope it gets better . I watch so many videos I forget how narrow minded people can be. Anyway, have a great night
The goat farmer ! 👍👌 very intelligent man who has educated himself with the facts. Practice what he preachs by following great free range farming practices
Cherry picked garbage, the man is a biased cretin.
I don't care if vegans refuse to eat meat. That is their choice. Why do they have to be so damn sanctimonious about it and insufferable?
because they are arseholes.
We aren't. You meatheads messed up your britches after the gamechangers movie came out. The meat and dairy industry lost billions. And now you are scrambling trying to do damage control. It's amusing to watch.
@henryjackman3160 Not all vegans are sanctimonious about being vegan, and insufferable. I am vegan (have been for 55 years) and I don't think I am like that.
Because of their utter arrogance and thinking they are always right. They are typical BULLIES.
@@michaelmaguire5594
Always in a state of being hungry. You know nothing. If I eat a bowl of mung bean and sweet potato mash. I won't eat again for at least 12 hours. Nothing on this earth will fill you up like that.
As someone who lives out in the country :;; Farmers know their s*t! Wisdom passed down after generation after generation. You will NEVER win a fight with them. They are simple people who know how to survive. I have nothing but love and respect for them.
Actually, I don't.
@@pja8722 Sounds like a you-issue.
@@pja8722 cool. Willing to bet a lot less people respect you.
The simple is this : God chose the simple things of the world to confound the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things-and the things that are not-to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him.
Note:- The word “confound” is kataishuno, which means to put to shame, to embarrass, to confuse, to frustrate, or to baffle. The thing with the "NEW Kids" they all grow up in a world where knowledge is more vast than in any times previous but are so stupid they do not do the proper RESEARCH and can never prove their point. I wanna see just 1 Vegan get protein from Broccoli, that would be a neat trick in that it has NONE, never has and never will. So what you are left with BEANS? (which include pesticides and chemical that never existed 150 years ago. Today's Humans are nearly 1/2 as healthy as all the previous generations before. you can thank all the processed veggies, beans, and chemicals for that. When have the human race ever reported such Vast and numerous cases of Autism since the 60's? Never before. Diet is the sole cause. Don't believe some shit ya hear and EDUCATE YOURSELF FIRST ....... do the research, do the science, do the WORK LONG BEFORE YA OPEN YOUR STUPID HOLE AND SPEW PURE FABRICATIONS.
@@bane3759 Funny how you all feel threatened by a comment which wasn't directed at you.
I’m a vegetarian, no meat, fish or eggs, but that’s because I don’t like the taste and texture. My kids eat everything and I cook for them. I just don’t eat it myself. Why should I impose my personal taste on them? I wear leather shoes, bags etc and enjoy dairy - milk in coffee and yoghurt. That’s my CHOICE. No one has the right to tell anyone else what to eat!
If someone chooses to be vegan, go right ahead, but don't try and tell everyone else what they should eat, mind your own business, and carry on!
And stop disguising your stupid vegetables to look like our beautiful meat 🍖
Quorn bacon! vegan please
*Exactly. I have a certain diet myself and never have I shoved it into others faces and whatnot. You do you, I do me. Respect.*
Preach it, brother.
Not so bright ay!
Ironic that my own child tried that shit on me. She went Vegan for a while and though she is not 100% she does try to eat healthy. I found that she still packs on the pounds, maybe 15-20 too much, but I told her I eat meat and have all my life and i am NOT changing now in my 60's.
Denying an animal their natural diet is abuse. Period.
AND that includes ourselves too. They say this diet is cruelty free when they are being cruel to themselves, malnourishing themselves 🤔
@@TheLinguisticDove Yes exactly.
Your natural diet of Coke and potatoes chips, hamburgers and french-fries is the real abuse.
@@loubob21 also true
@@TheLinguisticDove how is a plant based diet remotely cruel to a human?
Excess milk is painful for the cows, most often they themselves ask their caretakers to remove the milk from them.
I heard someone call Veganism the flat earth diet.
Enough said really.
Flat earth, flat bum, flat affect...lots of flatness, lol! 😂
@@nrsimmons178flat blood pressure readings too LOL, meaning they’re 💀😂
Funny, I’ve heard the same thing said about the carnivore diet. Has about the same scientific backing as a flat earth anyways 😁
@@PlantPowerTrip I mean you have plant in your name. So we know what kind of research you would consider flat.
They are morons too then 👍🏻
They asked 10,000 poor Indian women what single item would improve their lives the most. 84% said meat !
depending on what meat they are meaning,, a human sausage ????????
@@Palmstreet-u7x dude the population is already out of hand lmao
@@farhansiganporia8051 only in some countries yes,lol
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As someone who has experienced light levels of poverty (real poverty, like having to split a medium sized can of tuna in 7), meat can become a luxury, and being able to afford and eat meat, improves health and wellbeing tremendously, the benefits of eating meat make a huge impact on poor people.
This is exactly the kind of farmer we need to support
An ignorant science denier, got it.
@@bbybeatboxxHow is this ignorant?
Leave the vegans alone. They are keeping the cost of beef down.
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True, and they do want to depopulate 😅
😂
How? The less people eat meat the more expensive it gets because it's a year and a half of work raising an animal for people to eat only 2 steaks and getting rotten after 3 days in the supermarket shelves...
Good point
She definitely can't have any pudding. How can ya have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
😅😂
Just another vegan in denial 😂
Well said laddie!!!
We don't need their education........We don't need their thought control.....no dark sarcasm in the classrooms ( brainwashing our kids).
They're just another Brick in the wall, (of bad decisions!)🦩🦩🦩🦩
She does need an Ed ucation
My daughter’s 19 year old friend was a vegan for years. When she broke her leg snow skiing her Dr said she had the bones of a 50 year old. That should tell you enough.
It tells me that your world view is supported by anecdotes.
@@bbybeatboxx you say anecdotes, we say facts
@Blvckys You say whatever correlates with your world view. You are only fooling yourself in the end.
@@bbybeatboxx An anecdote is a piece of evidence. Why are you against science?
@@bbybeatboxxPot meet kettle. Pushing your views onto others or trying to discredit theirs is not it
Vote with your wallet. Buy from farmers who treat their animals right. Simple as that. Don't need to go vegan and sacrifice your health.
Health ? Life !
Exactly 💜
You've got no chance. People buy what is cheapest, not what is most ethical. This is why factory farmed meat sells more than any other kind.
@@Steven-ze2zk Yup, hearts, liver and bones are dirt cheap. And very nutritious btw.
@@D4rkBl4de the ironic thing here is that firstly, meat is objectively worse for your health. And secondly, the idea of a cruelty free farm, if it’s commercially creating meat, is nonsense.
Vegan girls yelling at the guy eating Kebab because they can’t eat it! 😂
Not because they can't they chose the right of an animal over there taste buds
@@monkeybalconey You're making things up...as usual.
They don't care about the rights of animals as they all use animal products needlessly.
Mentally ill
As if shouting at someone like a maniac will suddenly make him agree to your opinion. They should know you only achieve the opposite, but then .. they arent smart.
@@monkeybalconey To be fair, there are some extremely close tasting and texture products made from soya and peas these days. They even found ways to simulate the blood in some burgers. So they can have their cake and eat it if they want to. They probably do.
The hardest thing about being vegan is shutting up about it
I had friend like her. After some years they went back to eating KFC.
😂
Glad to read they came to their senses 😂
finger lickin good amiright? (that's the kfc slogan right? i forgor)
I don't support KFC, cook some in home. It's better, healthy
Almost all of them do. Veganism is very much just a phase.
That 'vegan leather' plastic belt will be discarded a long time before a leather belt will be discarded. Leather in a landfill is significantly better than plastic in a landfill.
I always get leather belts. I think they are *more* environmentally friendly.
I used to get plastic wallets but they never lasted more than a year or two. My last two wallets were leather. The previous leather wallet lasted something like 15 years and I've had my current leather wallet well over 10 years. Still in good condition with no splits and good stitching.
I have the same non-plastic, non-leather, belt for the last 20 years. My vegan walking boots i have have for about 8 years and although i do not wear them constantly they have been through some rough terrain and have at least 1,500 miles on them and they still look as good as new.
@@criticalthinker8007 Many vegans (clearly not you), choose plastic over leather when cloth and other materials are not a deciding factor, and somehow think that is better for the environment.
@@criticalthinker8007 You use animal products from the same animals that we eat.
No point in pretending so hard.
Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
Aren't vegan belts bad for the environment because of the materials they are made from?
My leather wallet is 29 years old and is still in decent shape.
The level to which society and humanity had degraded over the years is absolutely mind blowing.
have you watch the movie Idiocracy?
@ivonned32 thank you for recommending. That movie is now on my upcoming watchlist.
I have a friend who was vegan. I invited her to Winter Solstice dinner a few years ago and made a Medieval, vegan dinner for us. The first thing she asked was, "Where are the meat substitute dishes?" I replied, "Vegan don't eat any animal products, so I made dishes from natural botanical products. If veganism is so healthy, why do you want meat substitutes to begin with?" That stopped her in her tracks. I then pulled out a bunch of Medieval meat/fish, milk, egg, etc dishes for me. I said, "I hope you don't mind." She was a bit flustered, more so when I took some of the vegan dishes and offered her some of mine. She kept glancing at my plate and the dishes I'd made for myself. She finally said, "If I eat some of the non-vegan stuff, you won't tell, will you?" I said, "of course not." She ended up devouring all the non-vegan dishes and within a month quietly went back to being an omnivore. :)
only vegans i trust are the shojin ryori practitioners , buddhist veganism is less about not eating meat and more about a devout adherence to a spiritual philosophy. its why after i left my farm i grew up on i switched to that diet, been a vegan buddhist 28 years now and never once had a problem with sticking to it, most vegans are sheople, following the trends and fads just to claim superiority over others
You are a true friend. I hope she knows it.
Agreed
The fake meat crap is (usually) fairly unhealthy...
They say we should eat a balanced diet here is your proof
"don't put your choice on me".
brilliant.
As you take a creatures choice away from them for your own?
Great lgic retard.
That made my day. :)
They often put their choice on their children. Children needs to grow and they need a bit of "everything" in their diet, so they are basically starving their children.
They also want to ban meat production in EU, this is horrible.
Don't put your choice on animal's then.
@@bbybeatboxx
No. Humans are the superior beings.
You gotta love a man that knows his business.
Farmer made the point with the belt, but her shoes and the denims she's wearing are not made environmentally friendly.
One step at a time to educate you fools the farmer knows all his animals by name ahh that's so cute but at the end of the day he's mainly reason for having the animals is for his income
AND they're more than likely made over seas in a sweat shop (china)! Where's the humanity in that?
Ask the same questions in a couple of years, when these vegan kids are a little more adult and less naive.. You’ll be suprised that most of them have started eating meat again.
@@paulhillar1833 Sweatshops in Bangladesh, Cambodia, Vietnam, India, etc. The cotton will have come from all cotton producing countries in the world, the dyes are devastating to the ecosystem and to people. But once a self anointed saint vegan wears any of it, they become environmentally blessed.
@@monkeybalconey so fucking what? Free market capitalism says I can make money wherever the money is. He chose to be a farmer and it SOUNDS LIKE HE’S DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. It could be worse. He’s saying not all farms treat their animals like a number. They make him money but they aren’t a tool. They are live creatures and they deserve and DO get treated as such. You’re just as bad as a vegan imo. Gtfo.
this old man is on his game. the arrorgance of youth was no competition for this guy
That joke about a vegan and a vegetarian jumping off a cliff to see who reach bottom first, with the question that who wins and the answer being society... never gets old.
Vegetarians aren’t nearly as bad. They will eat eggs, milk etc.
How is stripping the planet of all its natural resources a win for society?
@@gamergeek7482 why is not killing animals bad in your mind?
@@bbybeatboxx Vegans are not a good natural resource
@@bbybeatboxx
"How is stripping the planet of all its natural resources a win for society?"
How is that a valid question, given that society is not doing that?
I’m Vegan because I had kidney disease, . I’d be happy to be an omnivore but I can’t. I don’t push my way of eating on others.
I hope you are doing well as can be
Oh my god, finally, after literally six years on internet, first vegan with good reason. I am crying right now, my friend. It happened and I already cease to belive!
Why isn't everyone with kidney disease vegan?
@@ryanmellor2238 depends on their specific pathology if it’s beneficial
It isn't necessary the right choice, see oxalate present in vegetable. Plus all the other elements don't available or accessible following a vegan diet. Using certain supplement (most of them are bad) or worse medicine don't make-up for it.
There's a chicken farm in Kent that recently started marketing eggs as vegan friendly because the chickens are free range. Absolutely made me roll my eyes, sign and laugh at the same time.
my dad rsises chickens and give away eggs. He loves them darn chickens. He gets upset if a fox or racoon harm them. Ppl are stupid abt veganism.
@@chelcybryant225 honestly, people are always stupid
@@Harvy500 this isn’t true. But I expect nothing less from the people in the comments here.
1:58 no! No no nonono, That means that our diet, To make us the healthiest possible specimen we can be, MUST include both meat AND plants (removing plants from your diet results in the loss of vitamins and supplements, while removing meat results in the loss of proteins and minerals) we NEED both to survive and thrive
she is making an argument to return farming to the individual farmer while at the same time promoting fascism.
So is genocide better than fascism or is genocide a title only reserved for animals with two legs? Make it make sense.
My husband is a rancher. Been working his grandfather's ranch since he was 3. I have watched my husband stay up all night with a sick animal. Watched my husband lower his hat down when he had to put an animal out of their misery.
Oil based animal friendly fake leather. Lol
Cultists don't care about reality. They have their own narrative that takes precedence over all else. Also, people need to remember where oil comes from. Do they know it comes from long dead animals?
I have chosen to be vegan but I am not going to criticize your husband one bit. His life; his choice. And I'm not exactly thrilled by the utility of fake leather. Even the most sophisticated, breathable, fake leather materials, leave a lot to be desired. I will say that all my cars have fabric seats, not leather seats. The couch in my living room has a nice comfortable fabric. Not sure why anyone would prefer leather in these situation. As far as shoes go, in rainy or snowy weather real leather seems to outperform any fake leather and any fabric that I have seen, whether the fabric is made from plant fibers such as cotton, from fossil fuels such as polyester or acrylic, or made from a combination of fibers. But as far as seating used indoors, I don't see any need for either leather or fake leather. We are here on earth together. We have differences, and life is best if we accept each other's differences, accept the fact that people do things differently than other people, without bitching about this. I don't like to cause animals to suffer, but I value human life more than I value animal life.
@@soilmantedpretty sure you dont need to write an essay
Did he have a tear in his eye when he sent them to be slaughtered?
@@bbybeatboxxYou can imagine he’d be picky about which get harvested, if you have a pet which you would cry over because they’re in a bad condition and need to be put down, or is clearly nearing the end of it’s life, you’ll understand. A pet, you make friends with, you can assume that to a good rancher,their livestock are like their pets.
Vegans eat so much processed food is ridiculous!!
What a ridiculous generalization and besides if they do then only they get hurt!
I noticed some of my friends eat highly processed potato and other products out of bags with msg and to.much table salt and do not mind.
That’s the first time I heard vegan as an eating disorder and I agree 100 percent‼️🤮
Agreed
Funnily one of my friends is vegan, he is completely chill about it. Once he visited me and my ex, and started eatign some of our Gummie cola bottle things(its a snack you can buy here). My ex intertjected:" You know these arent vegan, right?" That friends reaction was to basically shush us while stuffing another in his mouth. Love it. So yeah he is mostly vegan, but if a cravign or so comes...or its impracticle...
Wow, cognitive dissonance based willful ignorance is real!
@@bbybeatboxx You're definitely proving that with your every comment, Slappy.
@@StevenRogers-hw9dj Get some real facts, start with Pignorant, Earthlings or Christspiracy. Then you might realize how wrong you are!
Something that kills me is when a vegan says eating eggs is eating baby chickens. Obviously, they don't realize that the eggs bought in a grocery store are not fertilized so have no.chics developing in them.
The same people say that abortion is ok because it's not yet a living being.
Maybe they should start arguing that people are eating half a chicken. And I will start arguing that every seed they eat is a plant that doesn't get to grow.
I think of your trying to bother people, pointing out they're essentially eating a bird's period works better😂
I have a flock of chickens, and knowing my rooster, I'll bet all my eggs are naturally fertilized. I always like to throw that to the vegans just to illustrate how much I don't care about their argument.
please reread your comment. i think you lost a word somewhere
As a born and raised farmer...The Argument of FaRmInG iS AbUsIvE is absolute bunk. I can remember more times that my family, fevering sick and desperately needing to stay out of frigid winter conditions went out because one of our cows had just had a calf and that baby needed some where dry and warm so we took her and her calf into a heated barn, set down fresh clean straw and got her all the good hay and feed she could eat and clean fresh water she could drink, again...While I alone was running a fever of 101.... These idiots don't have ANY idea what people do to make sure their animals have the BEST life possible, how much we care about EVERY life on our farms. I BAWLED my eyes out when one of my favorite cows took ill, and did everything I could to help her. Even though at the end of the day and her thirteen long years of happy life, when she had no teeth and couldn't feed herself properly anymore...she went to sale. So if these fools want to tell someone like me that I don't care about the lives of my animals...Just because they can't stomache the fact we are Omnivorous and NEED meat for its nutrients and proteins , they can stuff it right up where the sun dont shine and suck on their tasteless 'fruit jerky'.
@@laceyshort972 it’s a lovely narrative that you are trying to spin with a load of fluffy rubbish to make you look good, but the simple and fundamental fact is that you cannot kill something for money and pretend you care about it. Because those two things are binary opposites.
If someone bought a dog and ever 2 years killed it and cut it up then took its puppies, let them grow and did the same thing they would be making Netflix documentaries about them as being one of the most demented people imaginable.
You MONSTER!
Yes that was Sarcasm.
For some reason they assume that every farm is like the mass production hellholes
@ the assumption isn’t that all farms are factory farms. The assumption is that over 98% of animals in agriculture are in factory farms. Which is based on the fact that it’s correct.
@ the assumption isn’t that all farms are factory farms. The assumption is that over 98% of animals in agriculture are in factory farms. Which is based on the fact that it’s correct.
Love this video and this farmer!! Wish he was in my area so I could visit his farm and also buy meat from him!! Love it when he said If he is cruel to his goats then WHY do they run to greet him when he walks out to them? Don't think this girl has EVER been to a real farm where the animals are loved and well cared for! Thanks for this video. I just wish the vegans had enough mental clarity to LISTEN to the facts about what type of farming causes more damage to our planet and our health!! ❤🤗🙏🙏
It's a great point he made. The animals are thankful and don't feel threatened at all. You're probably right. Most likely, she hasn't visited a proper farm.
A real farm that sells meat to the masses is a horrendous place, not Worthy of defending. What percentage of farmers who produce meat for the United States farm like this guy? This guy is like a hobby farmer who sells locally. That girl is lumping all farming into one so her bad on that. But the reality is the vast majority of our mean comes from tortured animals. That guy's farm sounds awesome! What percentage of the population does heap provide for versus say Foster farms chicken?
@@middle-agedmacdonald2965 I live in Canada, lots of farms around me with cows walking on fields eating grass. Not as rare case. I buy grass fed beef only locally. People should support such farmers and avoid big corporations.
@newnewmee44
Right a few exceptions don't make the rule. The animal doesn't realize its going to end up in being slaughtered and eaten.
When the dairy cows give birth to male calves the farmers usually slaughter them immediately. This doesn’t sound very loving and kind to me.
Can't fix stupid even with a wise old man pointing you in the right direction
That's right on point my Dear Friend!
Blasting people afflicted with cognitive dissonance is not effective in changing minds.
You have to engage people into self-introspection of the ideas and beliefs they've collected, cause them one way or another to ask questions, challenge them to go deeper on their principles and BE NEUTRAL and EMPATHETIC as much as possible. To turn on the "fact blast" and "counter argument" hose and spray it at people, will not change their minds. In fact, it'll make them more determined that they are "right."
@@exothermal.sprocket Can't fix stupid. (would not waste my time even trying to fix you)
No wisdom there just pure biased ignorance, I would destroy him in a debate and I have debated far wiser!🤣
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4:03 Sri Lankan here, we did not starve & that whole organic drama was to cover up the fact that we didn't have enough $ to pay for the imports 🤭. Yea we were broke. Now doing OK actually 😂 & we do eat meat & fish a lot.
Hi 👋🏼 The chemical fertilizer ban in Sri Lanka did cause a lot of damage to our agriculture industry. Crop yields reduced, food prices increased and it directly or indirectly worsened our economic situation. If you think about it I'm sure many families did starve because of the higher food prices.
I am a second-hand vegan.
Livestock eats grass, and I eat Livestock. Period.
😊
Nice!! Lol
I'm a third-hand vegan. I eat people like you.
@Dragumix that statement could be funny, could be scary, or it could be kinda gross... please explain in detail what you mean by that... I just want to understand and not imagine the wrong picture... will you cook or go raw... do you use utensils or just gnash and bare hand that shit??? Paint me a picture...edit: oh-oh-oh, i was so dumb... I figured it out... I know what you would would have to eat 3rd hand, and that's just nasty, dude
Why do you have to filter your nutrients through somebody elses body?
I have never in my life woke up & said I think I'll have a plate of plants
Dude! No s***!
I wake up and think "eggs and steak?
Potatoes and sausage? Cereal and fruit"?
I've got incisors.
Eat well, homey. 🖖🍻
I dunnow, tomatoes are pretty good, especially when put between 2 buns and a beef patty 😁
I've had a salad for breakfast before. Today it was grapes and cheese.
@@kenhasibar2624 Cereal and fruit are plant based.
Neither have I, and I’ve been vegetarian for over 50 years.
I tried to be a vegan when I met my first love in 2018. But seeing how weak her body was when she contracted pneumonia at 19; you can tell the body lacked the nutrients found in actual protein.
And yes she passed at age of 19, her ghost still haunts me to this day! My point being; being a vegan isn’t actually benefiting anybody. In a nutritional standpoint, the body cannot retain any natural form of protein, or not enough to remain healthy. Meat allows one to actually retain a healthy body fat ratio, enough to actually prevent a body from fully collapsing when receiving any type of cold or flu!
A new study just released shows that plant and animal proteins are both as good.
@@bbybeatboxxYou’re… really bad at rage-baiting, you know? You’ve been on every comment, made up every kind of shit or nonsense to get people’s responses, hell I even responded to one of your prior comments thinking it was genuine thing but no, it’s all one man, all spam, you really think people are gonna buy your crap? Shove off ya damn photosynthetic melon.
@@bbybeatboxx Send the study here then
@@RetroKingOG the nutrients her body lacked…? Like what…?
Message to vegans, you do you and good luck with it. I’m staying healthy.
By eating something that Dr’s tell you will give you cancer?
Only a matter of time before your arteries clog up your blood pressure soars your cholesterol is off the scales and then u go to doc who will tell u to change ur diet lol
@@monkeybalconey One of my brothers has been a vegetarian since the seventies and had a massive heart attack from clogged arteries. Like I said, you do you.
@@monkeybalconey There is no healthy plants only diet for us. Find a study that says otherwise...oh right, there isn't any.
@@monkeybalconey i guarantee you none of them will recommend him to go vegan even if that happens.
I have eaten a carnivore diet for three and a half years and have reversed my very painful autoimmune conditions. I love it and even more love not being in pain. I’m more healthy than I’ve ever been, fitter, stronger, more stamina and flexibility. I’ve been vegetarian and vegan, and I shall never eat a crappy plant based diet again. Others can eat what they want, but I love eating meat!😊
I’m just curious, do you take supplements for hydration like electrolytes? I find I’m so thirsty on carnivore.
@@thirstonhowellthebird I do take an electrolyte capsule most days, if it’s really hot and I’m drinking more I might take a second, but not often. I only did that because I found manually working outside all day I was flagging a bit so was tempted to a caffeinated coffee and I wanted to cut it down my coffee until I quit it. I don’t like salty water so chose capsules.
@@anitachisnell8412 - Carnivore here. I don't use any supplements on carnivore.
Although I did use them before. In fact I still have a cardboard box full of the supplements I used! Calcium, magnesium, vitamins C, D, B... etc. a bunch of "ridiculous" stuff. It's amazing the amount of crap we consume(d)!
For what it's worth while on carnivore I never felt better in all my life. And I'm 55.
At the carnivore beginning I did have a few episodes of severe leg cramps. Usually quickly corrected with a salty steak and water!
My record, was waking up with terrible leg cramps at 3 AM. Limp to the stove make a small steak, consume it. 10/15 minutes after it was 100% gone! Simple, quick and basic. ;-)
@@carlosipec2270 Hi Carlos, I’m 63 and feeling like I’m in my 30’s. I was taking supplements until a month ago, and will restart in autumn. I’m in the UK. Yes those leg cramps hurt, like you I get a glass of water, I tend to pop an electrolyte capsule in during the day, occasionally two on hot days. The cramps are getting less often though. It’s a good feeling isn’t it when you find the food that keeps you thriving and feeling better than before. Thank you for your reply, take care!
All long terms studies show that carnivore diet ends in heart disease. When you were a vegetarian you probably just ate potato chips and soda.
6:59 wait till vegans see what deers eat when they dont get enough nutrients
This is a great man!
He makes the case for more humane and natural ranching and farming and is not a hypocrite.
I had 12 free range chickens and they all lived happy healthy long lives and all passed from old age the only one left alive is still producing eggs to this day and we've had them since they were babies
@@joeblow2069 you say he is ‘not a hypocrite’ but what he’s saying is clearly untrue. As a milk farmer, male goats are of zero use to him. They drink the milk he is trying to sell. There is zero chance he is just happily raising hundreds of male goats at his own expense for the good of humanity. No chance at all.
@@Audioremedy0785@Audioremedy0785 Still evading the question I see.
Thanks for the easy win and your concession due to your deception and deceit.
Really? How?
@@bbybeatboxx By watching the video again and taking notes. You'll know.
we had a fruitarian girl work for us for a few weeks, she spent the entire time telling us all everything wrong with what we were eating and every ingredient so as joke we drew faces on Her fruit, she quit the next day. the morale of the story is keep yo crazy to yourself.
To say we are carnivores is crazy because Biology tells us that we are omnivores. We can live by eating almost only meat and we can live by eating pretty much only plants and mushrooms. If I was a carnivore, I would already be dead because I didn't eat meat for more than 13 years.
@@Dragumix I am deeply sorry for you and will pray that God can give you some measure of sense and peace while you still live.
@@Dragumix I think it is best to classify our dietary category by what it is that we eat, not by want physical structures we have. Keep in mind the Chinese Panda, which has a digestive system resembling that of a carnivore, but whose actual diet consists of one species of bamboo. Despite its digestive system, it is classified as an herbivore. It is classified by what it actually eats. Humans are known to eat everything imaginable that they can possibly eat. So I would classify us as omnivores. In addition, our digestive systems appear to be adapted to this kind of diet. So this provides more reason for me to classify us a omnivores. My understanding is that being an omnivore doesn't mean we _must_ eat a little bit of everything. Rather, I think it it means we are _able_ to subsist on most anything. We aren't limited to just one type of food, the way the Chinese Panda is.
@@AlbelNox imagine not being able to spell ‘moral’.
I watched a video on TH-cam, and the woman said her partner was going to make plant based tuna pasta bake ! I had to comment😮. i said last time i saw tuna it was a fish, not a plant, and it swims in th sea😊
She really let the cat out the bag when she said omnivore so she doesn't believe herself she should be vegan.
Right 😂
By definition, an omnivore is an animal that is capable of living on either plant or animal food, or both. Humans have lived by eating mostly animal flesh. Humans have lived by eating mostly plants. Humans have lived by eating both. That shows that we are omnivores. What we have been capable of living upon shows that we are omnivores. To determine if an animal is an omnivore herbivore or carnivore you look at what it eats in the wild rather than try to guess what it is by looking at its digestive system. The chinese panda for example has a digestive tract that looks like that of a carnivore, however in the wild (and in captivity too) it eats only a certain kind of bamboo - making it an herbivore. Zoo operators have found that chinese pandas get sick if you introduce animal foods into their diet!
@@soilmanted The actual definition...
an animal or person that eats food of both plant and animal origin.
@@SteversChed Yes, but in practice, ancient man ate a virtual all-meat diet in the north during winter, because not much grows in the frozen tundra.
You also get sick of you only eat vegetables it's why they have pills to give you the nutrients you need lmao
Farmer: 'You've never visited my place.'
Vegan: 'How do you know?'
Vegan seconds later: 'And what animals do you farm?' Showing he was right in calling her out.
"How do you know?", "Because you wouldn't be sitting here if you had.".
No slaughter house is humane, even the word is an oxymoron.
@@bbybeatboxx Those two words aren't incongruous.
@@RS54321How so?
@@bbybeatboxxBecause she tries to call out a farmer on how he treats his animals without seeing how he treats them
I agree with both sides of this debate so I always make sure to have a potato with my steak!
It's important to allow vegans to eat what they want...
However they ought to be studied so that future generations can understand what happens to the human body.
Their subsequent behaviours, and declines in their ability to control their moods and emotions, should also be monitored so that people can understand the source of their hysteria in order to be able take and manage appropriate precautions, remedies and/or ameliorations .
I'll just pity any kids of theirs, see Pottenger's cats for how the diet of the parent can affect offspring
Dave Mac no carb life is doing exactly that mate. There are outstanding stories on there.
Take a look at elephants monkeys fish insects they don't it meat and they been healthy for thousands of years remember the Holocaust the Germans thought it was ok to gas the Jews until the right people came and saved some of them
@@monkeybalconey They have different biology and some of them do in fact eat other animals.
Fish eat other fish all of the time.
Why do you make things up so often?
@SteversChed - …aaannnddd the vegan who was once oh so confident in what he said has deleted his post. 😂
As a non-hunter, I can testify that most of the people I know(a lot in Tennessee) who hunt regularly do seem to have a deeper level of knowledge and respect for the animals they are hunting. I love animals but have always gotten the sense when I talk to hunters that even though they hunt deer they love and admire them more than anyone.
@@MaximusLigmus so if someone loves and admires another human being and kills them, they could say this in court? You all sound totally nuts.
@@Audioremedy0785 You’re comparing the natural instinct to hunt to a crime against humanity. You are the crazy one.
@@MaximusLigmus I’m not. I’m actually just putting into perspective the absolute insanity of justifying killing something because you ‘love and admire it more than anyone’. If i shot a dog because i loved it more than anyone I would get locked up.
@@Audioremedy0785 Again, comparing hunting for food to killing for fun. You either genuinely do not get it which speaks to your actual character or are just trying to find something to argue about.
@@MaximusLigmus so if I was killing the dog because I wanted to eat it, that makes it ok in your eyes? To me it makes it worse. It’s exactly the same scenario, but I’m just doing it to a dog rather than a deer. The reality is that it doesn’t matter what it is, it’s wrong. And it also disproves your theory that humans have a natural desire to hunt as if we did, supermarkets would not sell meat and we would hunt it ourselves. But as we have no desire to hunt, people who eat meat get it from Costco….
The argument is laughably weak on every conceivable level.
I was stupid enough to be vegetarian for some 26 years, even some years only vegan. I am glad I learned to come back to the real food!
You mean the real evil food
@@monkeybalconey There is no healthy plants only diet for us.
We are all omnivores.
Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
@monkeybalconey - that was asinine. Sit down, kid. 🪑 You’re embarrassing yourself.
@@monkeybalconeyevil food? So stupid kid
you were never vegan to begin with.
What makes me laugh is, the doctors that started all this veganism business have either died off, or crawled away years ago. We haven't heard from them in years. They know they were talking crap.
Wait what doctors?
@@thatonewitch How old are you? Do you remember any of the doctors that used to preach veganism on-line twenty-five years ago? They're long gone. Not around anymore. You can occasionally find their lectures on YT but they're about a decade old.
Doctors are still pushing the vegetarian diet. My husband recently found out he’s diabetic and that’s pretty much what they’re pushing on him.
@@thatonewitchThe ones that invented veganism to make a quick buck off of gullible people by selling them books and tickets to seminars.
@@thatonewitchit all started for marketing purposes as i heard, for example plant based oils.
John Dutton (Kevin Costner) answered this argument better than anyone else. How cute do you want the animal to be before you kill it to provide your plant based diet.
One of my favorite bits from Yellowstone.
OMG that was soooo flawed it was embarrassing. I would have to write an essay on it! Do you just buy any crap you are told?
@@bbybeatboxxYeah. You can make an ethical essay on it. "Why are humans willing to save more aesthetically pleasing animals?".
I remember years ago having a barbeque & one friend brought her own veggie burgers. She said after eating them that they were really tasty, more than usual & must be because of the coals on the barbeque. My husband told me later that they were so dry he drizzled them in fat from the steaks to make them cook better lol.
On our farm, everything revolves around our animals. They run the show and they run us.
Exactly my grandparents are 80+ and still running around all day and night, i had to go help bring a calf last week in the middle of the night. Farmers care more about animals then any of these nutters could, for them it's a once a week thing or 9-5 but depending on animals to be your breadwinning is something totally different, would be counter productive to abuse them.
For them to say: “Just grow organic, it’s not that hard.” Just really shows that they don’t appreciate the farmers at all. That is a difficult task. And there are also such things as organic pesticides. So there are still pesticides anyway 😂
It's hilarious that the word "organic" even need to exist. Organic = non-toxic basically.
These people watched the movies “Babe” and “Charlotte’s Web” and thought they were true stories.
You probably think Santa Claus is real and animals get belly rubs and treats in the slaughter houses, cmon man! 🤣
@@bbybeatboxx What's the connection between Santa and veganism?
Animals do get scrubs and belly rubs before being brought to the slaughter house depending on the farmer.
@@bbybeatboxx What is the connection between Santa and veganism?
Also, some animals do get belly rubs and treats depending on the farmer.
My dad said his father was so mean that at the sound of his voice the cows would stop giving milk. But like this farmer said: treat them right and they will flock to you.
Ignorance like that is DANGEROUS.!
Let's educate the "Beef Deniers" now!
Let's educate the beef eaters most of us were brought up eating dairy products so it was the norm but we weren't educated or show where or how I food arrives on dinner plates in the last century only the elite and wealthy people cud afford to eat meat while the masses lived on fruit vegetables grains etc and were still here
@@monkeybalconey There is no healthy plants only diet for us.
Beef is just one of many animal products.
@@SteversChed😂😂it's you again!
In a dystopian world without ruminant animals, vegans become Soylent Green.
It's animals now humans will b next
That's a great idea! Turn vegans into food. True vegan food. 😂😂😂
@@monkeybalconey Fear mongering is all you have?
Oh that's good lol
@@SteversCheddo you even know the reference?????
Hold my glass of soy milk! Let me debate the farmer. 🤣lol
If all vegans eat is a plant based diet then please explain why they try to make their food look like meat...really kind of stupid
For the same reason lesbians like to use a strapon in bed.
ikr. half of their diet consists in unholy "meat replacement" amalgamates that are as healthy and tasty as eating cardboard cake.
And they even try to make it taste like meat! 😂
Any why do they need their clothes to look like leather?
They even name it like the thing it is suppose to look and taste like, it's fraud. i took the wrong thing once and ended up with fake chicken and it did not taste like chicken...
Just imagine if meat eaters acted like vegans
Normal people (i.e. carnivores) couldn't possibly act like the weed-munchers do. Meat-eaters have a fully developed brain and body. Vegetablists have an atrophied body and a weak and feeble mind leading to erratic thought processes. Vegans are the epitome of reverse-Darwinism.
They literally fund the torture of animals.
@@Audioremedy0785 So do you.
Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
@@SteversChed I don’t 👍🏻
@@Audioremedy0785 Many things are made with animal products.
Asphalt, some types of money, motor vehicles, electronics with processors, some housing materials, etc...
How did you needlessly reply on this totally avoidable entertainment platform without using several things with processors? Smoke signals?
Thanks for the easy win and your concession due to your evasion and deceit.
forgets that crops take WAY more space than a herd of cattle
What are they feeding the cattle with, sunshine and rainbows? You ae funny! 🌈🌞🤣
Furthermore, cows eat vegetation that is inedible to humans.
@@bbybeatboxx Even if there are no animal farms, if everyone goes full vegan, they will convert even more land areas into farmlands.
@@bbybeatboxx They are being fed with hay and industry waste for the most part.
Care to show a healthy plants only diet study?
We both know you won't.
Why do you use animal products needlessly (that means possible and practicable to avoid) while only pretending to be against it?
I think we could just leave it to nature and evolution. If eating poorly causes healths issues then healthy and stronger animals will eventually outcompete the weaklings. Vegans vs Carnivores, I know where my bets are ❤
lol 😂
Yeah, my money is on the diet that has no extensive, credible science backing it. AKA the carnivore diet 😼
Ok. Well, much as I like a good steak, lets throw a spanner in your works shall we?
We humans cannot absorb certain nutrients, mostly vitamins, from meat. We need plants for those. The most well known of these of course is Vitamin C.
In other words, if you eat ONLY meat, with nothing else, you WILL die of malnutrition, most probably scurvy, the common name for vitamin C deficiency.
Humans are Omnivores, not carnivores, and we ACTUALLY do best on a mix of meat and plant in our diet. All the so called 'carnivores' in this channel can blather at you otherwise, but I will absolutely guarantee you that they are not eating only meat, or if they are they are taking vitamin supplements...
Just like Vegans have to....
@@alganhar1, Even Bears are omnivores, except for the polar bear which is living in it shittist existence of eating seal fat because berries are absent.
@@alganhar1
Simple not true, do some research.
Meat does contain vitamin c, even more so in organ meats.
Plus the body requires less vitamin c due to the reduced oxidative stress by not consuming carbohydrates.
Young people without any life experience.
Yes, no life experience but plenty of iPhones to video to millions of people
@@CaptainEverythingHumorandMore what do you mean by this? How is life experience going to change her perspective? Do you think that if she is older she would be more tolerant of animals suffering?
@@Audioremedy0785No, if she would be older she would realize that this is life. Life in the jungles for the animals was a lot less humane. Thats why we call humans who act bad as animals
@@hamzaiqbal7178 I don’t think you understand the conversation. It’s not about the behaviour of ‘wild animals’ and animals in the wild. It’s talking about humans who have the intelligence and facility to make choice. She’s not wrong at all. She’s 100% right.
Old people with no critical thinking skills and subjective morals.
Pity her.
She is slowly going insane.
Animal fats are essential for maintaining a healthy brain.
Hence the genius vegan population 😂 that’s their 😭 for supplements reasons yeah Just Add Meat as they said in the ❤ 80s GOT BEEF ❤
Source?
@@shlamimk4664 😂😂😂
@@bbybeatboxx Source: Basic education about nutrition
@@gravel9270 Made up garbage to suit your narrative. I bet your TV is alot bigger than your book shelf! 🤣
Why do vegans want their fake meat to taste like meat? You'd think they'd find it repulsive. I knew a vegan who wouldn't even wear wool because she said that shearing sheep hurt the sheep. I knew a sheep shearer....watched him many times. I never saw one sheep get hurt.
What actually hurts sheep is when they're not shorn. They were bred to produce much more wool than wild ones do and not shed it. They get horribly overgrown and suffer. Same with llamas.
And the funny thing is vegetables taste great when you arent trying to force them to be something they're not
Umm not all vegans like eating seed oils. Its about ethics not health, despite a whole foods plant based being the only diet proven to safely reverse disease.
@@bbybeatboxx If it's proven, send here the source
LEE... THIS WAS FANTASTIC!!! You've really put out some outstanding content!
Thank you and I'm sooo glad to see you back and your ol self again! When you hurt...we all hurt that you were in such pain.
YOU'RE BACK NOW MY FRIEND! 🎉
Much love, Lynn, as always ❤
If you want a good debate watch earthling Ed this was shocking! 🤣
@@bbybeatboxx thx!
Fantastic comedic timing in TH-cam’s insertion of a Taco Bell ad. 😂
🤣
Something else ive realized from going carnivore for the past year is that my own personal experience overrides the so called "authorities" on nutrition in a very powerful way, especially when discussing nutrition with people. The amount of personal positive results with some knowledge is so much more persuasive and compelling than that one guy who was arguing from a point of view that appeals to authority.
For a vegan the young man looks pretty good, methinks. I’m curious to see how long his brand of handsome lasts. 🤔
I appeal to my own authority which is one that cannot tolerate wholesale completely unnecessary animal abuse.
@@bbybeatboxx which is one reason why i support local farmers who use regenerative cattle farming. The animals aren't factory farmed in those situations.
If your position is that you're against death in all forms for animals then you have a childish position. all humans have evolved as obligate carnivores. It's in your design as part of the human species to eat meat as the most nutrient dense option. You don't have to eat meat with today's modern conveniences, but you then rob yourself of your optimal health by ignoring this fact.
If she does more onlýfans than veganism, wouldn't it be more appropriate to say farmer destroys a sèx worker in a debate?
You mean, "ho", don't you? Let's use the correct terminology. 😄
😂😂 good point 🤣
Her antics are purely to promote her onlyfans I can’t believe more people haven’t caught on yet 😂
An appeal to character has no bearing on the debate.
Great video! Vegans want everyone else to eat what is good for the planet, animals or anything that is not YOU. Carnivores tell you about their fantastic experience and want you to have as much enjoyment from life as they are having. Carnivore is human centric. Veganism is selfless (in the true worst sense of the word) suffering for what is thought to be the animals, the planet etc. and turns out to be hurting the planet, animals, etc. The purest form of "Sanction of the Victim." Touché CCP
Veganism is NIHILISM. Total self-destruction without any achievable goals.
Veganism is great as long as our health systems can afford to treat diabetes, dementia, cancer, autoimmune disorders and so forth…😢
Veganism goes against human health, against our evolution as meat eaters, against our flourishing as a species. It is not the proper human diet. To be sure, abusive animal farming practices should be contested and eradicated/minimised, but we don't need to pretend that it's healthier for humans to eat no meat. We are not gorillas.
Exactly! And how can they even think that something human (who come from nature) centric would be harmful towards their own planet?
Is protecting the planet and supporting ethical ideologies not human centric, please explain how?
Love that farmer. Can we have him hold every single debate with these Vegans? It would be awesome!
I would love to debate him, easy pickings for a well read activist.
As an apple, I would ask you to stop eating me
How is WOOL abusive? Sheep have to be sheared or they get horribly matted, fly strike etc. No, mulesing isn’t okay (and many places don’t do it any more) but outside of that, wtf?
I’ve been processing fleece from local sheep farmers for years and not once have I seen any cruelty. Do they think sheep have to die to give their wool, or something?
I think the sheep they breed for wool can't survive without humans. Wild sheep don't produce wool so rapidly. I guess there's an argument that we "created" animals that we treat like plants: sheep that require sheering, cows that require milking, etc.
@@JustMeUpNorth the process of collecting wool is not abusive. However given the ‘factory’ setting in which the animals live, it’s deemed that their living standards and quality of life is very low.
"'laughing cow', huh? I BET IT WASN'T LAUGHING WHEN YOU KILLED IT HUH?!?"
"you don't kill a cow to make cheese"
@@Audioremedy0785 Good point. My aunt and uncle had a sheep ranch for most of my life. The pastures along the Coquille River where the sheep raise definitely had that "factory" setting for them to live in. (I never face sarcasm when dealing with stupid)
@@paulmartin2348 yeah but let’s be realistic - how much of sheep farming is actually like that. I’m sure in some counties it’s ok - but it’s an industry where profit is king.
If they really want to live on a strictly vegan diet, my grass needs to be mowed
Ha ha that's a new one! (sarcasm)
That guy eating that T bone HEROIC I say.
When it comes to Amino Acids Such as Meat Fish Dairy Eggs have Higher Amino Acid Density then Plant Protein, Thanks for the Update,
Also consider *digestible* protein. A leather shoe is full of protein but about as digestible as most plant products.
@@obiorah1 my thoughts exactly! Animal products have COMPLETE proteins and ALL the amino acids we need. IF this is possible with plants, you have to learn what combination you need to get adequate protein!! Keep it simple, eat meat and eggs!! ❤️❤️
Any discussion of nutrients should also include whether these nutrients are accessible. Some nutrients in plants are not accessible to humans eating the plants. Meat offers the most access to nutrients.
When it comes to dairy products it has more fats salt preservatives colourings e numbers etc etc
Eat more plants then. 🤷♂
We should remind vegans that they should be pro-life in abortion topics...
Bingo. They are hypocrites.
@@EnFuego79 how are they hypocrites?
@@DrydenOk it makes me laugh when people write stuff like this. It just comes from a complete lack of understanding of vegan principles. A vegan believes that we should make ethical choices where possible and reduce suffering as much as possible. So if an unborn baby is diagnosed with an injury that would result in low to zero quality of life, how does the concept of abortion compromise their principles?
@@Audioremedy0785 it makes me laugh when prochoicers take worst case scenarios as justification for using abortion as contraception. Prochoicers always ask about child being r-d or dieing mother etc. But they always want laws to let healthy mother kill healthy child.
@@Audioremedy0785Hmmmmm ....BS
If u don’t eat ur. Meat can’t have any pudding
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat? You! Behind the bike shed. Stand still laddie!
I love to challenge vegans to survive in the wilderness eating only what they can get.
Vegans don't go into the wilderness. They also don't care for livestock or know anything about them. They have a fantasy view of animals, based on Disney cartoons, not how real animals are. Veganism is an eating disorder and as much a mental health issue as anorexia.
@GhostRider-ce3eb Can you eat without killing plants? Can you walk without stepping on ants? Do you swat flies? Poison cockroaches? Catch mice?
@GhostRider-ce3eb No, legitimate questions. You won't answer because you KNOW that for you to live, some things must die. Your "ethics" are a sham😕
I would like them to live on a seasonal diet in the Northern hemisphere. Cut out all the exotics flown in from across the world. Eat the fruit available in England in December - stored apples. Eat the leafy vegetables available in January - cabbage mainly with a few brussel sprouts. The "rainbow plate" belongs in the same place as the unicorn.
@GhostRider-ce3eb 2nd attempt to post this on censor-tube.
These are legitimate questions you won't answer. Your ethics are a sham.
This conversation is ridiculous! , young whipper snipper who thinks she knows it all!
Knows more than the old dinosaur! 🤣
@@bbybeatboxx Love how your comments range from trying to be thought inducing into becoming straight up insults. You call out other commenters for being cherry-pickers and now you're insulting the old man for being old (ad hominem).
Thank God for this farmer setting it real and straight
This farmer is a legend,I love watching him
I don't care what these crazies do and eat.
Just DON'T tell me what I should and shouldn't do and eat!
Controlling others to make yourself feel better is a FOOLS ERRAND!
And controlling and killing others for taste, habit, tradition and convenience is an evil one.
I heard somewhere that the food industry is now serving processed crickets lol
I was vegan for choice but I never judge what other people eat. Is not my business, at the end of 4 years I start to loose so much collagen my neck was wrinkle and my joints painful. Now I am eating eggs and feeling better.
Eat what is right for you and support farmer.
You were never vegan.
The farmer is a great guy. He really is a good debator.
Her, "I'll need to see the source." Farmer, -gives her the source. lmao
@@leonidbashevkin7545 because he lies through his back teeth about his farming practices enough to convince the stupid?
No he is not, I would dismantle all of those argument's in seconds, its just she is a shit debater or you wouldn't be watching the video in the first place because you would be too triggered. 🤣
“They may not be the healthiest food” *slaps head in sync with the meme*
2:31 is all the reason that one should NOT be vegan...this guy is dripping with soy.
😅😅
More like feminine guy
At least soya doesn't feel pain
And he has a bad case of vaginitis.
Who are you to say soya doesn't feel pain? Plants bleed sap and retreat from injury. Just because they have no voice doesn't mean they don't feel any sensation. Very arrogant.
Farmer 1 - Vegan Booty 0 ( Flawless Victory )
His arguments were cherry picked shite.
@@bbybeatboxx *Experience
Imagine you clicked on the thumbnail and it turned out that SHE was the farmer and HE was the vegan 😂
vegans need to understand that plants are a living thing too, they communicate with other plants and they feel pain
their frequency puts off beautiful music too. I loved hearing how trees communicate.
@@ronniecahill-w9f vegans do understand this. However plants level of sentience and suffering is significantly lower than that of animals. Good try though!
Plants literally made multiple physical and chemical defense systems, just because human ignored plant defense systems, doesn't mean the plants want to be eaten.
@@varnix1006 no. But it doesn’t mean they have the sentience to understand.
@@Audioremedy0785so their suffering doesnt matter because they're different? How tolerant of you
GB News actually said something useful for once
For useful idiots. 😊
I had ferret owners complaining that their ferrets keep dying. Found out they were feeding them cheap kibbles & also vegan as well. Ferrets are CARNIVORE
Unlike dogs, and like cats, ferrets are obligate carnivores. They must eat meat to survive. It's cruel to give them a vegan diet.