@@neverenoughtech When used with the Arc and playing 7.1 audio, the Era 300's OUTSIDE side-firing drivers AND the Arc’s side-firing drivers will work together to create virtualized side surround channels. The 300's INSIDE side-firing drivers will play the rear surround channels along with the front and upward firing drivers. When used with the Beam (Gen 2) and playing 7.1 audio, only the Era 300's OUTSIDE side-firing drivers will create virtualized side surround channels. The 300's INSIDE side-firing drivers will play the rear surround channels along with the front and upward firing drivers.
Excellent video, no lie the best I’ve seen and I’ve watched maybe two dozen Era 100 & 300 TH-cam videos. Also read a few articles and none have have the amount of pertinent content this production contains. Bravo 🎉
I like era 300 , and going to replace my Sonos one ! Great job guys! I always said quality reques some money! Looking forward it ! Thanks for your product 👍👍👍👍
Great review...you answered my question before it was asked. I was interested in the 300s for music only and already subscribe to Amazon HD music...thanks for your ESP!!
Really looking forward to your take on Arc/Sub/ERA300 v Samsung 990b. For those of us with the Arc/Sub/Ones setup already, the cost of upgrading to 300s as rears will be about the same as jumping ship and getting the 990b, less potentially if you factor in selling the Sonos components.
You should ask that question out loud, register the audio, play it on a 990b, and when the audio starts cutting off, you will have found the answer yourself. GL!
Interesting timing, since I’m testing the 900 and Arc soundbars to decide what I want in terms of a new surround system. I am doubtful Bose will come out with more compelling surrounds than what they have now, anytime soon, so I’m anxious to see how the 300s rank with reviewers (I’m sure you are a preorder, so I can’t wait for your review). From just the soundbar perspective, the Sonos is a much bigger sounding bar with great separation, but the 900 sounds cleaner (if there is such a thing) and seems to have better dialog. Maybe Bose and Sonos should have a baby. Bosos?
I would love to get 2 300s but damn it's more than an arc. Including buying some stands for it. Gonna wait for black Friday. It's massive. That's what she said
Thanks, Daniel …. as usual, more factual than other vids out there. I have preordered a single 300 adding it to my Arc and Mini Sub as a rear surround. To date Apple’s Spacial audio did not impress me … maybe it will with the 300 addition. Matt
@@neverenoughtech Best Buy is giving me four months of Apple Music free with my initial purchase … I decided not to buy a pair even though I initially thought I would… To get another free four months if and when I purchase the second one. I already have two stands from my previous surroundsound set up so I am ready to go that route again.
Love the videos. Really enjoy your style and content. I, too, think Sonos missed the mark by not making the one form factor with up firing speakers. The 300s might be tough to squeeze into a corner. But I’m gonna try so they got my money anyway. 🤷🏻♂️ I look forward to your April breakdown. Thank you. 👊
Great deep dive into these products! I know you haven’t spent time with these products but for people who have a beam gen 2 and sub mini and want to add surrounds, which era would you recommend? 🤔
Great video! I’ve been so excited about the era 300 release I’ve watched every video on YT. I have an unconventional set up I would really like your opinion on. 2x Sonos 1 SL’s right and left channels, not as rear channels. Two Sonos moves as rears when watching tv and a Gen 2sub all connected to my Apple TV. I shuffle the moves all around the house through the day but I ordered the Era so that I can finally play vinyl through my system and I want to either test it as a center channel speaker or a rear. The only slightly annoying thing is having to group the moves depending on which room I’m in but honestly you get used to it. Ah I also use a beam Gen 1 in a small bedroom connected to the tv. I really just have a better soundstage with the two SLs compared to the beam Gen 1. It’s a big living room.
Not sure what the question is but I like the creativity. True you can group/not pair other speakers to play with soundstage. I put two old play bars on top of the cabinets to help fill out sound in my big living room kitchen combo … in addition to an arc system… don’t love it for video but nice for music
Thanks Daniel! Looking forward the five vs 300 in the surrounds and stereo pair matches reviews. Wondering if it’s worth retiring my fives as constant stereo pair from their surround duties in my arc sub g3 setup( so far absolutely nothing aside price and I have to ungroup to switch to stereo pair from surrounds to complain)
If you have a need for a dedicated stereo pair it makes sense … if not it may not be worth the cost to upgrade to 300s … but I’m curious what they do for the sound
Keep telling them this. Seems for now they want to only have soundbar a up front but it definitely seems like they should release a connect cinema product that could orchestrate something like five eras and two subs … I think they could sell a lot of components that way
Probably not … I think if you were looking for a “can’t miss” sound enhancement you would need to go 300 or fives. If you’re looking to break into the ecosystem the 100 is a really good one
I would wait your one are more than good enough. Use them until Sonos stop supporting them and by that time they probably will have up-firing speakers. You will notice a bigger difference in surround.
300s - the fives are halfway through their life and more expensive … better suited to dedicated listening - the 300 may be more lively - the direction I’d go.
My 3 car garage can get very dusty. I would lean toward 2-4 symfonisk bookshelf or 2-4 Sonos Ones to mount up high in the corners. Even the Sonos Move is a good choice if you need bluetooth and take your music on the go (around the yard, house, or in the park).
I'm not sure if anyone can answer, but with this having a line in, how if possible, would I be able to connect two of these to my computer? I assume if I want bass I'd have to purchase their sub mini or their bigger alternative. See I can't seem to get it right with powered bookshleves + a sub...I like the suddle bass notes in anything I'm listening to, and I just can't set it correctly on what I have, hence the reason I'd like to get something like this since I own their ARC and Sub gen3, and it gives me what I'm looking for as far as bass at low listening levels. My current setup is a pair of Klipsch the Fives and a RSL Speedwoofer v2, but I have to raise the volume for the sub to kick in, and when it does it's too loud, but if I lower it I just don't get the nice bass notes at all.
You can setup a 300 stereo pair and add a sub in the Sonos app. Then use computer line in and the audio will run through all the components. My only unknown is if the delay would be acceptable. May want to let other sound off with the product before spending too much.
If you plan on keeping for 5-10 years - Sonos otherwise dragon. I have tons of Sonos products ~40 components so read into that what you will. I think at the very least with the dragon let the reviewers and early buyers figure out if there is a fatal flaw
@@neverenoughtech Thanks!! I primarily use a blu ray player (movies and concerts). How would the Sonos sound for that (it’s a small rectangular flex room)
I think you have to have two to complete setup. But even so, take that first one and use for music until you get the second. It would weird out the sound
I had this discussion on Reddit a few days ago. In theory, it should be possible. If a single speaker can play spatial music, then it would need to be capable of handling four channels; left, right, spatial left and spatial right; which should be sufficient for surround. However, by the same argument, it ought to be possible to use an Arc as a rear speaker setup. Just because it’s technologically possible doesn’t mean Sonos supports it.
@@neverenoughtech Like its really disappointing considering the likes of Samsung and LG are able to do with their small surround speakers. Also If i where to upgrade to the 100 I would have to but new stands for them, they don't come cheap.
I don't trust the era 300 sonos stand it looks like the mount piece could easily break off over time, and I can see myself checking several times a day for stress cracks. Sanus' stand for era 300 puts my mind more at ease.
very disappointing that after so many years Sonos have not developed true play for the majority of the world's market but just for appleheads, many of whom aren't so concerned with acoustic quality and will by homepods because its apple. Not so keen on the Era 100 design which is a bit bland, though the 300 does look beautiful
According to Sonos, adding the 300 to the arc, sub combo, does, in fact, turn it into a 7.1.4. Very much looking forward to this upgrade.
You can make a video or constantly fact check. Big miss. I’ll correct in the description
Yeah, I was about to say that too, just saw it on the verge 7.1.4
@@neverenoughtech When used with the Arc and playing 7.1 audio, the Era 300's OUTSIDE side-firing drivers AND the Arc’s side-firing drivers will work together to create virtualized side surround channels. The 300's INSIDE side-firing drivers will play the rear surround channels along with the front and upward firing drivers.
When used with the Beam (Gen 2) and playing 7.1 audio, only the Era 300's OUTSIDE side-firing drivers will create virtualized side surround channels. The 300's INSIDE side-firing drivers will play the rear surround channels along with the front and upward firing drivers.
@@asmrpages6657 two Sonos customer service reps told me the beam system goes 7.1.4 as well - the .4 seems weird to me … im planning a followup video
Excellent video, no lie the best I’ve seen and I’ve watched maybe two dozen Era 100 & 300 TH-cam videos. Also read a few articles and none have have the amount of pertinent content this production contains. Bravo 🎉
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I like era 300 , and going to replace my Sonos one ! Great job guys! I always said quality reques some money! Looking forward it ! Thanks for your product 👍👍👍👍
Excellent video - love the occasional humor! Thanks very much….
I really enjoy your videos. Keep it up!
Thanks!
Great review...you answered my question before it was asked. I was interested in the 300s for music only and already subscribe to Amazon HD music...thanks for your ESP!!
Really looking forward to your take on Arc/Sub/ERA300 v Samsung 990b. For those of us with the Arc/Sub/Ones setup already, the cost of upgrading to 300s as rears will be about the same as jumping ship and getting the 990b, less potentially if you factor in selling the Sonos components.
You should ask that question out loud, register the audio, play it on a 990b, and when the audio starts cutting off, you will have found the answer yourself. GL!
@@popaconstantin2090 From what I've read those issues have been addressed. Also my Sonos system has had connectivity issues lately too.
Sonos should sponsor your video!
Interesting timing, since I’m testing the 900 and Arc soundbars to decide what I want in terms of a new surround system. I am doubtful Bose will come out with more compelling surrounds than what they have now, anytime soon, so I’m anxious to see how the 300s rank with reviewers (I’m sure you are a preorder, so I can’t wait for your review). From just the soundbar perspective, the Sonos is a much bigger sounding bar with great separation, but the 900 sounds cleaner (if there is such a thing) and seems to have better dialog. Maybe Bose and Sonos should have a baby. Bosos?
I would love to get 2 300s but damn it's more than an arc. Including buying some stands for it. Gonna wait for black Friday. It's massive. That's what she said
She did say that …
You have great videos!
Appreciate that!
Thanks, Daniel …. as usual, more factual than other vids out there. I have preordered a single 300 adding it to my Arc and Mini Sub as a rear surround. To date Apple’s Spacial audio did not impress me … maybe it will with the 300 addition. Matt
!!!It may be that you need two 300s to complete surround setup so be careful there.!!!🚨🚨🚨
@@neverenoughtech Best Buy is giving me four months of Apple Music free with my initial purchase … I decided not to buy a pair even though I initially thought I would… To get another free four months if and when I purchase the second one. I already have two stands from my previous surroundsound set up so I am ready to go that route again.
Love the videos. Really enjoy your style and content. I, too, think Sonos missed the mark by not making the one form factor with up firing speakers. The 300s might be tough to squeeze into a corner. But I’m gonna try so they got my money anyway. 🤷🏻♂️ I look forward to your April breakdown. Thank you. 👊
Great deep dive into these products! I know you haven’t spent time with these products but for people who have a beam gen 2 and sub mini and want to add surrounds, which era would you recommend? 🤔
100s - I sense that to be the balanced prudent choice
I wonder how long Sonos will support the One SLs and current Symfonisk speakers? I have both and I really hope they stay supported for +5 years.
They aim for a decade so the ones and symphonisks are probably about half through life span so I’d guess another five years - best guidance
Great video! I’ve been so excited about the era 300 release I’ve watched every video on YT. I have an unconventional set up I would really like your opinion on. 2x Sonos 1 SL’s right and left channels, not as rear channels. Two Sonos moves as rears when watching tv and a Gen 2sub all connected to my Apple TV. I shuffle the moves all around the house through the day but I ordered the Era so that I can finally play vinyl through my system and I want to either test it as a center channel speaker or a rear. The only slightly annoying thing is having to group the moves depending on which room I’m in but honestly you get used to it. Ah I also use a beam Gen 1 in a small bedroom connected to the tv. I really just have a better soundstage with the two SLs compared to the beam Gen 1. It’s a big living room.
Not sure what the question is but I like the creativity. True you can group/not pair other speakers to play with soundstage. I put two old play bars on top of the cabinets to help fill out sound in my big living room kitchen combo … in addition to an arc system… don’t love it for video but nice for music
@@neverenoughtech Haha. Thanks I guess it is creative. The question, which was definitely lost, Is do you think there could be a better arrangement?
Thanks Daniel! Looking forward the five vs 300 in the surrounds and stereo pair matches reviews. Wondering if it’s worth retiring my fives as constant stereo pair from their surround duties in my arc sub g3 setup( so far absolutely nothing aside price and I have to ungroup to switch to stereo pair from surrounds to complain)
If you have a need for a dedicated stereo pair it makes sense … if not it may not be worth the cost to upgrade to 300s … but I’m curious what they do for the sound
@@neverenoughtech I am too! That’s why I hope I do not make an emotional decision and use my head instead 😂
I have heard gossip that the Fives will be replaced by an Era version .. which could be interesting if they manage to marry both sides
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If sonos have support 4 sub and add extra 2 of era 300, i Will definitely buy it
Keep telling them this. Seems for now they want to only have soundbar a up front but it definitely seems like they should release a connect cinema product that could orchestrate something like five eras and two subs … I think they could sell a lot of components that way
My question Daniel, is the upgrade on the era 100 enough for me to upgrade my Sonos one speakers? I use them as surrounds.
Probably not … I think if you were looking for a “can’t miss” sound enhancement you would need to go 300 or fives. If you’re looking to break into the ecosystem the 100 is a really good one
I would wait your one are more than good enough. Use them until Sonos stop supporting them and by that time they probably will have up-firing speakers. You will notice a bigger difference in surround.
For a 3 car garage for music only- would you recommend the 5 series or the new 300’s?
300s - the fives are halfway through their life and more expensive … better suited to dedicated listening - the 300 may be more lively - the direction I’d go.
My 3 car garage can get very dusty. I would lean toward 2-4 symfonisk bookshelf or 2-4 Sonos Ones to mount up high in the corners. Even the Sonos Move is a good choice if you need bluetooth and take your music on the go (around the yard, house, or in the park).
I'm not sure if anyone can answer, but with this having a line in, how if possible, would I be able to connect two of these to my computer? I assume if I want bass I'd have to purchase their sub mini or their bigger alternative. See I can't seem to get it right with powered bookshleves + a sub...I like the suddle bass notes in anything I'm listening to, and I just can't set it correctly on what I have, hence the reason I'd like to get something like this since I own their ARC and Sub gen3, and it gives me what I'm looking for as far as bass at low listening levels. My current setup is a pair of Klipsch the Fives and a RSL Speedwoofer v2, but I have to raise the volume for the sub to kick in, and when it does it's too loud, but if I lower it I just don't get the nice bass notes at all.
You can setup a 300 stereo pair and add a sub in the Sonos app. Then use computer line in and the audio will run through all the components. My only unknown is if the delay would be acceptable. May want to let other sound off with the product before spending too much.
Ok I have an old JBL 3.1. I’m deciding to either go Nakamichi Dragon or Sonos package of Arc, two Sonos subs, 2 era 300. What would you go for?
If you plan on keeping for 5-10 years - Sonos otherwise dragon. I have tons of Sonos products ~40 components so read into that what you will. I think at the very least with the dragon let the reviewers and early buyers figure out if there is a fatal flaw
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Thanks!! I primarily use a blu ray player (movies and concerts). How would the Sonos sound for that (it’s a small rectangular flex room)
Is it possible to just use one era 300 for a rear speaker with a soundbar? Like could I slowly add one 300 at a time to my setup?
I think you have to have two to complete setup. But even so, take that first one and use for music until you get the second. It would weird out the sound
I had this discussion on Reddit a few days ago. In theory, it should be possible. If a single speaker can play spatial music, then it would need to be capable of handling four channels; left, right, spatial left and spatial right; which should be sufficient for surround. However, by the same argument, it ought to be possible to use an Arc as a rear speaker setup. Just because it’s technologically possible doesn’t mean Sonos supports it.
And the 300s have problems with front speaker dont work
When paired as surrounds
Hello the era 300 can also be use if only i have Dd+?
Yes, it will amplify the spatial nature of any content by dint of speaker placement
google tell me era100 compatible with my beam Gen 1 but your video say only gen 2, sonos website has no info on this that i can find, any answers?
From Sonos website - Pair two Era 100 speakers for an even wider soundstage, or use two as rear surrounds with the latest Sonos soundbars
@@neverenoughtech thats rather vague though, more like a marketing jargon rather than blank statement it will not work with any previous models
I got to say I would have thought that Sonos would have created upward firing speakers, but I was wrong.
The did with the 300 … not with the 100
@@neverenoughtech Like its really disappointing considering the likes of Samsung and LG are able to do with their small surround speakers. Also If i where to upgrade to the 100 I would have to but new stands for them, they don't come cheap.
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Man was really hoping Sonos would come out with a One replacement that had upward-firing speakers! The 300 looks nice but not ideal for rears at all!
Yeah quite big for sure
Does anybody know if you can use the 300 with a mini subwoofer by themselves?
You can pair a sub to a single sonos one or stereo pair - so I think the same applies with the 300.
I don't trust the era 300 sonos stand it looks like the mount piece could easily break off over time, and I can see myself checking several times a day for stress cracks. Sanus' stand for era 300 puts my mind more at ease.
That is an impressive level of concern for a Sonos speaker. I would hope a $100+ stand could manage a 10 lb speaker
$3200 jeez, that’s close to a nakamichi dragon!!
Yeah but Sonos has had a more expensive option for a while with the fives - just more people would probably now consider the 3k plus spend
Sonos is not the home theater audio speakers like Samsung q990c or jbl 1300x
very disappointing that after so many years Sonos have not developed true play for the majority of the world's market but just for appleheads, many of whom aren't so concerned with acoustic quality and will by homepods because its apple. Not so keen on the Era 100 design which is a bit bland, though the 300 does look beautiful
I have the ARC, Sub3 and 2 SL, era 100 same like SL but the era 300 is very expensive, that`s it, no more money for sonos
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