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- This is the long awaited review of the Era 100 and Era 300 newly released speaker from Sonos. Sorry that this video is so so long but it had to be... There are two new products from Sonos, released simultaneously. But hey, more for you to love!
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Peter, you are hands down the ONLY channel I will watch in relation to my sonos set up and any changes or updates. The depth and time you put into this is incredible and really much appreciated by the entire community I'm sure.
Thank you so much. :)
Some people are saying you are in Sonos’s pocket (a “shill”) because you never mentioned how bad these things sound when used as surrounds for non-Atmos content (and they do sound very bad). I must admit I had been a loyal subscriber but am also baffled as to how this could go unmentioned in any decent-and honest-“review.” The absence of the centre driver (and in most cases at least one side driver), is very obvious and very detrimental. One look on any AV discussion, Reddit, or the Sonos forums, and it is clear many people are very disappointed, even angry. A wave of returned speakers and a flopped launch is imminent. How indeed was their poor non-Atmos performance omitted from your review, aside from saying they aren’t equal to the Fives for stereo music?
I agree wholeheartedly that Peter Pee's channel for Sonos products is so in depth in that once you watch his videos, you can never go back watching those hundreds of other youtubers reviews that practically read off a spec sheet, give limited actual reviewing and leave you still asking questions. Many people do unboxing video that really is a waste of time, while Peter Pee gets straight to the points, he values his viewers time and by the end of his videos most of the time you know exactly what you want to know.
Thank you for the affirmation Forestea. This is important to me to know that I am doing things right!
i have a little room with 50inch tv i want the best dolby atmos experience for movies ? one era 300 or beam gen 2 ? thanks
The amount of hard work you put towards your videos is truly commendable, ho liao!
Wow, thank you. I try. Your support is truly appreciated!
Era 100 don't give Atmos on their own, but what about combined with an Arc? They should complement the Atmos, just not provide the heights, but Arc should be enough for that - no?
Thanks Peter for all the effort and energy you put into these videos. They are excellent and really helpful.
Glad you like them! Yes this video took a while to test for and to plan.
Good Stuff man!!
I'm considering getting the ERA 300s for my Beam gen 2 and will use my Ones as additional surrounds
Thanks! I’ve been looking forward to this video. I preordered the 300 and was a little nervous about it but now I’m super excited. My surround sound will be amazing.
For surrounds, yes, these will be monstrously good!
Please review the Era 300 as surrounds while placed upside down above your head.
Good stuff! Thanks for all the time and effort you put into this content Peter, we really appreciate it.
My pleasure! And I thank you too jon!
@Peter Pee thanks for you vids. very informative. i currently own a Bose surround sound system and have been intrigued and tempted to purchase my first sonos system. Open question to the group, If i want to buy the Era 300 as a home theatre system, would you recommend first buying the Arc soundbar? Also, i have the portable Xgimi projector, could i use x2 Era 300's and connect via Bluetooth?
@@asap_roque Bluetooth will have lag. So you will still need the arc. But the xgimi projector doesn't have HDMI arc if I recall correctly. You will need something along the lines of a HDMI arc extractor and splitter.
Good Stuff!!! 🥳🥳 awesome video! Will be placing an order for 2 x Era 300’s by this summer… just need to save up £898 🤯 will be worth it! 👍
Good stuff. Amazing video and don’t mind the longer format. I actually can’t wait to see how they sound as surrounds. Thanks again
Glad you like the review! And you will be impressed I am sure, by the surround and Atmos effects!
I really wish people would understand that the ERA300 is primarily designed to shine as a rear surround in your home theater setup, and the Sonos Five is still the premier product for music enjoyment. So many posts on Reddit asking if they need get rid of their Fives for ERA300, and the answer is NO! And the argument that more music is being released now that takes advantage of Atmos and Spatial channels, does not change this fact. All that means is that your theater setup will sound better when it's streaming music content than it currently does. For a stereo pair setup for music streaming only, the best option is going to be the ERA100 or the Sonos Fives.
If there is such as thing as agreeing more than 100%, I'd agree with you 200%. :D
The ERA 100 would be better than Era 300 for stereo pair?
@@realScottThomas if you're just streaming music as a stereo pair only, yes. If paired with an Arc or Beam(gen2) then the 300's would shine.
Sorry I disagree that spacial audio /Dolby atmos music is for home theatre setups only, it is mainly able to be decoded by home cinema. I think the era 300 as a stereo pair would be interesting to hear how much they can add to the music. Iv been quite impressed with atmos music via my 7.2.2 AVR.
It has also been aimed at headphone listening too however in this case I find vocals to diffused.
Whilst I agree Sonos Fives is better for music, I completely disagree that the Era 300 was “designed” specifically for rear surrounds. The marketing material does not support that claim. Sonos is marketing this at more than 50% as a music speaker, rear surrounds are less than half of the focus for this device.
I hope a bunch of folks DO flood the used market with Fives! 😂
Good stuff, really glad to hear the Era 300 doesn’t disappoint as Atmos Surrounds!
Thanks for the detailed review Peter!
Will you be doing a comparison of Sonos Arc + Sub + two One Vs Sonos Arc + Sub with Era 100 and Era 300? Eagerly looking forward to it.
Great job Peter! My era 300s are arriving on Wednesday. They will be replacing my S1s as surrounds with my arc and 2 gen 3 subs. So excited for this setup for movies!
You will be bloody blown away. I was.
“Still a shit ton of money 💰 “ my man keeping it real .
Thanks for the review . Big fan
Thanks Peter, I really appreciate all of the time you have spent for your Sonos reviews, you are by far the best Sonos TH-camr out there and I also like your style!
Glad you appreciate them. Thanks for the compliment and the unwavering support!
No reviewers seem to be mentioning the fact that the front facing driver does not fire when using era 300s as rear surrounds when listening to non dolby atmos music...why? Feels like you're missing out on a lot of the potential power for regular music. A lot of people use the home theater setup to listen to music as well. Could you maybe cover the fives vs era 300 as rear surrounds and touch on music when you are not playing dolby atmos? A lot of people are interested in this use case and want the best possible rear surrounds for both theater AND MUSIC.
Hi Peter.
I have found that with the ERA 300 I no longer have a lateral lack of sound in surround mode and that the sound now really goes around me, i.e. without the lateral sound gaps.
I am very enthusiastic about the ERA 300 and they harmonize perfectly with the ARC and the Sub gen 3.
The surround experience is phenomenal.
Anyone who can afford it financially should definitely buy the ERA 300.
The sound difference to the One and the vife is amazing.
As always, a very good video from you, and I'm looking forward to more from you about the ERA 300.👍👍
How much improvement from the ones as surrounds?
@@heibaimao
Hello
In my room (living room) the change to the one SL's is enormous
I had a lateral hole in the sound / sound before, which is no longer there.
It doesn't matter where I'm standing in the room, it's as if a loudspeaker is playing the sounds there.
Our children and friends noticed this immediately.
So far 3 people in our friendship have bought the Arc with the Sub gen 3 and now the Era 300 after watching movies and listening to music with us.
It always depends on the room, but with the measurement according to Peter's presented style paired with mine, the sound here is overwhelming for us.
I still stay a little away from the ARC when measuring and stand with my back to it when measuring.
I also set up small stools to get as close to the ceiling as possible, in the direction of the height speakers for Atmos. Actually, the mobile phone is then almost on the ceiling with the microphone pointing upwards.
All background noises such as PC are silenced, windows and doors are closed and neither a television nor the washing machine or anything else is running in the house that could affect the measurement.
The sound is outstanding for us and a 100% enrichment.
I Love your channel!! I’m a Big fan. I’ve got the. Arc, surrounds using ones and 2 Gen 3 subs. Do you recommend the 300’s as a pair? Do they make a noticeable difference in Atmos effects? I have a fairly big room and I think Atmos effects could be more pronounced with back speakers. Maybe this is the perfect speaker. I’m not worried about music as much as Atmos for movies. Thanks Peter
Yes, absolutely they are much better than the Ones for Atmos. You add the pair to your Arc + dual sub setup and you have the absolute best that Sonos has to offer right now.
Thanks for the contribution Philly!
Great stuff! I hope you will consider comparing 2 x Era 300 vs 2 x Era 100 with Sub mini for music listening. Thanks again for all your hard work, Peter!
Good stuff! Would be great if you covered the placement and stands for the 300s.
Thanks, my 300s arrived today, replaced my 1s. Now my setup is the Arc 2xsub gen 3 and 2x Era 300, and yes, Peter, you are spot on with the review. I actually preorded off your early preview video
Glad that I was able to help you decide early and you can now be one of the first to get to enjoy it! Thanks for your support!
Good Stuff. I have an Arc, Sub Gen 2 and 2 Play 1's for my home theatre and music listening. I want to purchase new surrounds but not sure Era 100 or 300.
I appreciate your work. I like that your style isn’t fanboy orientated - where everything is just unbeatable because it’s Sonos.
Keep up your hard work Peter.
Thanks for the observation David. That is important to me as I really try to maintain that editorial integrity!
Hi Peter,
Thank you for fruitful information given. I'm now on a 20 years old Bose AV20 & traditional analog speaker (Arcam - Vandersteen 2C - rest gone to graveyards already). Looking to do some upgrade with Sonos & questions are:
1. How can I integrate the Vandersteen speaker with Sonos ecosystem? Should I eye into Amp? Can do away with current Arcam integrate amp as it is about to reach end-of-life
2. Considering Beam 2 + Era 100/300 + Sub Mini as my ultimate end game set & "no more" but can be less (see 2.2)
2.1 Would 300 overwhelm Beam 2? From price point aspect, 300 is more match to Arc (and 100 to Beam 2) but my view is having 300 with upward firing would do well with Beam 2
2.2 Need sub "and" rear speaker. i.e. which combo doing a better job (a) duo-1 Beam+Sub or (b) duo-2 Beam+rear or (c) trio
Thanks in advance
Thank you so much as always Peter! I have been debating 300s vs. Fives for stereo music listening and have two 300s arriving this week. But after your review and some of the others I’ve seen planning to return and get two Fives. Appreciate all of your content 😊
Wait. WAIT WAIT WAIT.... I just downloaded the new update with Atmos streaming from Apple music... I might want to eat my words.... They are ACTUALLY GOOD.
@@PeterPee !!!
Yup- spatial is the real deal. Swapped out my Fives today and moved them to my office. Eras sound amazing with spatial.
Yeah boiiiiiiii…..picked up 2x 300s in a sale for £630😁
LETS GO!!!!!
These era 300 rears (as one sl replacements) make the arc/sub come to life! Surround sound is everywhere and let's the arc become the star of the show in the center. What a trio!
ARC is a piece of garbage.
Is this while the 300s connected as surrounds?
@@ericsantos8286did you read Amy’s comment😂 cmon bro!!!!
Ya but adding the sub-mini to the 1, 100 and 300, the frequency response will similar to the 5. Sonos's DSP all produce the same curve signature and hence their signature. If you could only get a pair of speakers and can afford the 5, then get the 5 but if you already have the 1/100/300 then you can get close to the curve of the 5 with the sub-mini.
For anyone interested here are my first impressions using a pair of Era300’s and Era100’s…
The Era300’s are an easy sell for me if you are going to use them in a Sonos Home Theatre configuration. My immediate reaction to replacing Play5 rear speakers with Era300’s was how much better integrated they sound with the ARC sound bar. I come from a high end HiFi and cinema background but love Sonos for their fun club like room solutions and convenience around the home without speaker wires.
Sound bars always sound like the sound is coming at me horizontally. Due to their design and often low down placement they never sound great to me for music. However with the Era300’s as rears it feels like the Sonos cinema sound stage is more cohesive front to back of the room. In this scenario the more horizontal 3D soundstage doesn’t bother me as it’s more like a well integrated 360 experience. Play Ed Sheeran’s ATMOS recordings and the sound stage is far better integrated than using Play5’s in a cinema configuration. It makes me feel like the Era300’s are what was missing from the Sonos home cinema package since the ARC was first released. Era300’s just compliment the ARC so much better than the Play5’s. To my ears they are the first truly well integrated rear speakers for Sonos home theatre.
If I listen to the Era300’s as a stereo pair by themselves, then I am again hearing a more horizontal 3D sound stage a bit like turning the Play5’s horizontally instead of a more HiFi like soundstage when you listen to the Play5’s positioned vertically. So this is why some people may not like listening to Era300’s for music only. It’s not stereo HiFi, it’s just different. You’ll either like to get used to it or you won’t. Personally I am not a fan of the Era300’s in a stereo pair. I (currently at least) prefer a traditional stereo soundstage from a quality HiFi setup. But I think they are very good paired with the ARC in cinema configuration.
IMO the Era100’s are NOT an upgrade from the One speaker. They are just different and depending on the environment you place them in, your preference to listen to Era100’s or One’s may differ. I had no wow factor comparing a stereo pair of Era100’s with a pair of One’s. It’s not like the sound stage was considerably deeper or more natural, which I was disappointed with for a slightly larger speaker/driver design. I expect a pair of “Move” speakers in stereo mode, will blow the Era100’s away. I can hear the Era100’s are a little richer than One’s because their sound profile is not as scooped. There is a richer midrange, but that may or may not be preferred by you, because the soundstage can be thicker to it’s detriment. For example when I tested in an open plan kitchen/diner, I thought ok I hear a difference but it’s not “better” as such, it’s just slightly different and not worth replacing One’s for in my opinion. Then I compared the Era100’s and One’s in my bedroom where the Era100’s thicker midrange was not as relaxing to listen to in that smaller space, despite my bedroom still being a decent size. It’s not a box room by any means. I used Advanced TruePlay during these listening tests and tried adjusting EQ, but I still preferred the sound signature of the One’s in my bedroom. So I think the more scooped sound profile in the One’s works better in smaller spaces where you want to reduce any bloated/flubby bass. The Era100’s are arguably preferable in a larger space due to the richer midrange. It’s not really HiFi rich to me, which means it can thicken in a marginal muddy manner. At no point did I feel a wow factor like I did swapping out Play5’s for Era300’s in a cinema configuration. I suspect in time there will be a group of customers who prefer the traditional One’s to the new Era100’s and there will remain a good market for the One’s because their sound profile turns out to be more desirable to some people in smaller environment use cases. Have fun testing for yourselves and finding your own preferences within your own homes. Cheers everyone.
Hey DJ, really big thanks for helping the community out by giving such a detailed experience writeup!
@@PeterPee Sure thing Peter. I'm looking forward to hearing your own opinions in the coming weeks. Thanks for all your great content. 👍
Missed the boat with no upfiring driver and Atmos capabilities on the 100. It could have sold like hotcakes as a rear surround speaker at its price range. Marking up the price out of entry level range for a bunch of folks in this configuration was a massive blunder. The play 1 ticked all the bang for buck boxes. The era 100 simply doesn’t! I also don’t understand Sonos’s recent fetish for cylinder shaped cabinets? They’re simply sacrificing base output for cosmetics. I thought they might have learned from the Arc bass output fiasco, but nope! Square shaped speaker cabinets have worked well at boosting base for forever and a day.
GOOD STUFF, Peter! Unfortunately no room voor 2 era 300's. So thinking of replacing my one's with era 100's in my beam 2 & sub mini set-up which I just bought in Dec 2023 now we have the upgrade program at the moment.
Amazing review, no surprise! Totally agree about the Era 300’s being best geared for music. When I first played a Spatial Audio track on one Era 300, I actually thought I mistakenly had another one of my sonos speakers synced and playing at the time. It was unlike anything I had ever heard!
Hi,can you please answer me this question regarding my sonos setup. I have just purchased a pair of Sonos 300 will I be able to receive Dolby Atmos with my pair of S-Ones that I have on the rear .thanks.
That’ll be cool to hang out with you Peter anytime you’ll be stopping by in Los Angeles? 🤔. GOOD STUFF HO LIAO!!!
Most of the time people talk about an upgrade from the Sonos One. How about an upgrade from the Play:1? To the Era 100?
Hi Peter
My setup, Sonos Arc, Sub and two play 1, Play 1 mounted on wall near ceiling. I do not have option surround speaker on stand. I am thinking of replacing surround speaker with ERA-300. (Must be mount on wall). Please help me with your opinion.
Late comment obviously but I don't understand what the hell SONOS is doing or thinking! I believe most folks were waiting for SONOS to come out with rear surrounds with up firing ATMOS drivers. So what do they come out with a lousy ERA 100 that is nothing special and a jump to a expensive ERA 300 that is way overkill for what most folks can afford. Maybe their going to come out with a ERA 200 that splits the gap and what should have been released in the first place instead of the 100's.. Guess they really don't listen to the what the community wants!
So I have a Beam Gen 2 and am using a pair of ERA 100s as surrounds with great performance. I am debating adding a sub mini because the base on the ERA 100s are already pretty good. Have not been able to test myself, so I am not sure if the upgrade is worth it.
I live in a one bedroom apartment. Aka my living room is not huge. 77” tv with an Arc (no sub). Would 2 era 300’s suffice from a bass perspective? Or is it recommended I get a sub mini over 2 era 300’s?
I recommend that you get the sub mini over the era 300. The era300 won't contribute to bass when they are used as surrounds.
@@PeterPee appreciate the response, Pete. Love your videos. You are my go to when it comes to anything Sonos. Recently moved to a new place & have watched all your videos for best in tech when it comes to Sonos & how to take advantage of their full capabilities in my new home. Thanks again!
DO NOT BUY- The app is trash and you can't get them to connect or work after a year. Customer support is not helpful and speakers should always work even if the app is not the best. After trying everything for years they just got worse and just trashed over $1k in speakers. Terrible purchase and never again.
Peter, I would very much like to hear your opinion on a pair of the Era 300s with the Subwoofer Mini for listening to music.
Would the era 300s be worth the upgrade in a small room? I currently have an arc, Gen 2 sub and 2 sonos 1's as the rear speakers.
Beam Gen 2, Sub Mini with two ones sounds great on my TV. Why not step up to the new ERA 100s? It will only get better.
Need to register an app with email address before using bluetooth? Sonos could make their products obsolete as they want. Don’t buy their products. Just like unreplaceable batteries, I am tired of the greed of audio companies.
Many greetings from Germany Peter!
I have the following home cinema setup:
Sonos Arc, two Sonos Five as surround speakers and two Sonos Subs. Basically this is a 5.2.2 Dolby Atmos system.
I read your report about the Era 300 with interest and wonder if it would be a good idea to replace the two Sonos Fives with two Era 300 as rear speakers?
What is your opinion? 🤔
Good stuff, guess my bank account will bleed 950€ now^^^
Omg what a channel. Just discovered your work a few days ago. So good. Good stuff!! Thank you. Keep it going!!
Not a single video demonstrating the proper sound quality test in different environments, all sales and marketing talk. I was hoping he would do it.
Good stuff!
I was about to buy 2 sonos era 100
But i think ill buy 2 sonos 300 and an arc
Ill sell my sobos beam gen1
As always, excellent detailed review Peter, HO LIAO!
Thanks for helping in making the correct purchasing decision.
Best wishes!
My pleasure! Always happy when I am able to help.
Which one for medium size bedroom (not a perfect rectangle) for regular music streamed from phone ?
I sell it all my sonos system. But now I’m back with this sonos era 300 as a Soundbar thanks to my Apple TV 4K and is 💯 porcent replace my beam 2. Now I have the era 300 in the front and 2 news HomePods in the back , I really don’t need no more bass.
Has anyone tried pairing Era 100’s for front stereo along with the Arc and 300 rears ?
Can I use Sonos Arc + 2 Fives + 2 Era 300s on my home setup?
I want to upgrade to eras 300 but why i cant add my sonos 1 as middle sound to my lineup as this sonos arc sub 3 eras 300 back and 2 sonos 1s middle. Cheers
Thank you love your videos. How big should my room be for the ERA 300? And second sub. my room is 13,51. 11,48 and 9.1 feed tall. is that possible?
My room is small, and VERY close to your dimensions. I am using the ERA 300 in that room. :) Thanks for the support!
Superb info as always and the best (only) place to see quality frequency response comparisons of Sonos gear.
Disappointed that the era 100 will not be a significant upgrade over Play:1s/Ones as surround speakers. I think the 300s are overkill, having bigger, bulkier drivers for our surrounds than our front stage looks goofy as heck. But 1s/Ones sound like a singular point. I just want a wider sound from my surrounds without needing to get big bulky ugly 300s. We need something inbetween, Era 200s?
The BMW initial models was 3,5,7. Then came the 1s... Followed by 2,4,6. So...maybe?
When do you think the arc 2 will be available
Great job like always, one question, how about having era 300's as a surround with sonos arc and a sub for movies, but then using them to listen to stereo music alone?
Very troublesome to unpair the surrounds when you want to use them for music.
Guess I have a question or two, IF you have time:
1) Did you test the surround aspects with just a single sub? I would imagine that a second sub would be the last thing on my shipping list, correct?
2) I had asked you earlier about my large slant sloped "ceiling" (actually just the underside of my roof) in my bedroom. Do you think the 300s would be able to fill that large volume with sound, or would I be better off with the directional 5s instead?
Awesome channel. If I were a couple thousand miles closer I'd see you at the event!
I tested with dual sub. But I will say one sub will get you like 85% there.
The era300 should work better than the fives as surrounds. The Atmos capabilities are amazing.
Good stuff Peter, I am looking to get speakers for strictly music via Spotify in my office. I want a rich, immersive, detail experience. Loud volume is not my priority as I listen to my music in a lower volume in the background while I work. A lot of people have suggested that stereo sound would be the best for this use case. However,which would be the best option for me? Pair of ERA 100 vs Single ERA 300 vs Single Five.
I recently read Spotify doesn’t have Atmos sound. Amazon and apple music has it
In your case, I strongly recommend the sonos fives.
@@PeterPee even a single mono five VS 2 stereo ErA 100?
The BEST videos hands on Down ✋🏽☝️👏
GOOD STUFF.....HO LIAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will be selling my 6 Sonos Gen 2 with alexa ONE for 2 ERA 300...
Cant wait for the Era 500
Hahaha... That's one way to look at it. Another way... 12 drivers for 12 drivers. Fair trade.
Thanks for watching all the way!
You are the Sonos genius..my intention indeed
Hor lIao.... from Malaysia
Thanks!
Has anyone used the 300s as rear speakers in a very large open floorplan where they are located behind couches? THey are so big if I use stands they will really stick out.
Sorry I'm late to the party, but Good Stuff!
A beam (Gen2),Sub Mini +,2x Era 300.. Id this a great combination? It will be mine tomorrow. And Is this a 5.1.2 system?
Not exactly, but this will be a 5.1.4 system according to my understanding. I am trying to clarify with Sonos the exact designation of the processing on the Beam Gen 2 with Era 300. The Beam by itself, rightfully has .2 at the end for 2 channels of atmos but they are not actual physical upward firing drivers.
@@PeterPee quality review Peter! Will you also be providing a detailed review of the beam 2 and sub mini paired with the 300’s?
Ho liao! Amazing video as usual Peter! Sorry that i will not able to join you this Friday evening.
Now that my Era 300s have arrived today, cant wait to catch some Atmos coded movies.
No worries. I am really appreciative of your continuous support all the time Popeye!
Thank you so much for that review. Really look forward to your comparison for era 300s vs in ceiling sonance speakers in a movie setup.
Hi. Can Bluetooth works with stereo pair? Possible for Bluetooth connection with stereo pair + submini?
Yes. Can.
Just poked around as many new reviews have just been released. Nothing comes close to yours. You get it, congratulations and thank you
Thanks Peter, thoroughly enjoy this video. Didnt feel is 30mins+ duration, am going a step further, sibeh ho liao ah!
Sibeh holiao! Thanks for your support!
Thanks! Great stuff. Keep going. I have asked several questions in past. Got prompt answers. Awesome channel!. Wishing you million subscribers.
Awesome, thank you mavcool! You're cool!
Era 300 much too expensive. Era 100 not so big difference if you already have Ones as surrounds.
Agreed on this point. But this level of Atmos performance is not cheap, as reflected in the price.
Ho lioa
Good stuff!
I really appreciate you time and patience in relating and bring us the best and possibly the most accurate information when it comes to Sonos. You really help make purchasing decisions easier.
Thank you again.
Great Stuff Peter i may have to invest!!!
Have a pair of Era 100s as surrounds on Beam gen 2. Don’t feel like I hear much from on movies and think it is even worse when playing music to the Beam & Surrounds. Is this normal ? Have tried boosting volume on Sonos settings (TV & Music) still feels hard to hear. How are the Sonos Ones as surrounds (Beam) compared to Era 100s. Seems like a lot of money to have the Era 100s as surrounds when I can’t distinguish them adding a fuller sound on TV/Movie watching or especially with music. Please let me know if I have set something up incorrectly or if this weak sound is what you get when you use Era 100s or Ones as surround speakers with Beam Gen 2. Thanks
I’m picking up my 100’s tomorrow, so I hope they will be good as surround. The 300’s are to bulky and expensive for me😢
I will advice you to save up and hold up!
Well I don’t like the looks of the 300. Looked at it today in a store. Also I had a great deal for the 100’s, a pair for € 458,-. I use my Sonos mostly for listening to music.
I would have loved the era 100s with upfiring drivers. Don’t get me wrong I would buy the 300s in a heartbeat. Except for that the space where my one surround is is behind a door(I close the door for movies so no issue) but there is no way I can fit an era 300 in the same space on that side. Gutted. Failing that I would have to put them too close together pretty much right behind me. Which I’m not sure about.
Move room!
@@PeterPee I think I will 🤪🤪
Thanks Peter! Can i use a beam gen 2 and one era 300 ? or it will be better to use 2 era 100 ? :))
Just the question I was going to ask, hope Pete gets the time to reply.
So are they ultimately worth the steep price to replace one’s as rears with the arc and sub? For gaming, movies and music.
I thought Dolby Atmos 5.1 can be achieved by adding any Sonos components (sounds bars L-C-R speakers) and 2 of any other Sonons speakers, along with a Sonos subwoofer? Doesn't this make up the 6 piece set for 5.1? Why will the ones not work for Dolby Atmos? Or the new ERA 100s for that matter?
Good stuff! As always some great content. Looking forward to getting some 300’s to alter my surround sound!
It will be some big alteration!
Ho Liao! Many thanks for your hard work my friend. Purchasing 2 300’s to upgrade my ones based on your recommendation.
good stuff!!! HO LIAO! I'm now going to pull the trigger on the Era 300 to replace my Play:1 surrounds. Thank you!!!
Good stuff as always! Keep up the great work. Can’t wait to get my pair of the era 300 7.2.4
I bet you can't wait! I can't wait for you to try it out!
Thank you Peter! You have a wonderful hobby and your work is really helpful! Keep it up, greetings from The Netherlands
Hey Mr Wolde! Thanks for the compliment! As of right now, the hobby has been renewed with the Era300!
Always like your videos, but this one was not the best - too poorly structured, each new product deserved a separate review.
I would have. But I was really trying to get it out in time for all. Now I learn that the focus is on the ERA 300. I will be releasing specialised videos over time.
Rest of the review is informative, but your frequency response curve comparing the two speakers is hilarious. You conclude that the 300 is louder across the board - uh, that’s not how you do frequency response. You don’t set them to the same volume number setting in the app, you’re supposed to adjust the volume setting per-speaker so that they produce the same overall volume in the room, ideally using a sound meter.
This would overlay the two response curves on each other properly, and make the differences more apparent (the 300 has a slight bump in the lower bass - hard to characterize with no numbers on the x-axis, and stays closer to flat through most of the curve but with a bump in the midrange and a pronounced bump in the upper treble). As it’s shown, with one curve entirely above the other, it just makes me laugh. People don’t care how it sounds “at volume 23” (or any other number”, they’ll simply raise or lower the volume number a bit to get the sound they prefer.
It has been shown many times, that when you compare speakers (say, auditioning speakers and trying to decide which pair of speakers from differing brands sound best to you), that if they’re not set to the exact same volume (actual volume in the room, not volume number in an app), people will invariably think the slightly louder speaker sounds better.
Can 1 ERA300 be used as rear channel in an Arc system. IT is easier to fit into my decor.
No it won't be able to. You will need a pair.
I received my era 300 and replaced my sonos 1s as rears paired with arc and sub.....I'm a bit disappointed; listening to amazon dolby atmos tracks and then MI6 fallout ....tbh both sounded better with the sonos 1s. Sigh. At this point I'm just going to mount upside down from ceiling as my last ditch to get it to sound "better"
I have a Sonos Arc, Gen 2 Sub, Gen 3 Sub and 2 old Play 1s as surrounds. Would it benefit me to replace the old Play 1s with Era 100s?
Great content.. the best. Question: 2 era 300 or 1 era 300 + sub mini. To start with. Music enthusiast. Thanks
Hey Peter, thanks to you, I have a complete Sonos cinema system!!!! Great work! Is it possible to mix rear speakers? I woulld like to buy one ERA300 and pair with sonos ONE, and buy a second later. Is that possible? Thanks