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- Game of Thrones Season 8 is over but the A song of ice and fire analysis has just began! One of the most mysterious characters in Game of Thrones and A Song of ice and Fire is Bloodraven or Brynden Rivers. In the History of Westeros and during the Targaryen Rule Bloodraven acted as Hand of the King to Targaryen Kings but more importantly Bloodraven was a Greenseer. Blood Raven seems to be the actual foreshadowing for Brandon Stark or King Bran Stark! In this video I will go thru all of the clues that George RR Martin laid that shows how Bloodraven influenced the story from the very first chapter and How Bloodraven is ultimately the foreshadowing for Bran and one of the most important characters of Game of Thrones and A Song of Ice and fire! We will go back to House Blackwood, The Blackfyre Rebellions and The Tales of Dunk and Egg!
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Thank you for your patience while I was sick and dealing with End of GOT depression! ❤️🌹 Love u🦋 Leave all of ur unanswered questions here!
I feel ya, GOT withdrawal is real. So glad you're okay now, Lady Gray.
GrayArea you do a great job with game of thrones and I’m so thankful for your help making it through the long night 💪🏾✊🏾
I understand the depression, I was depressed too. You should do a live chat with a friend and talk about the last season of GoT it would be like therapy for all of us.
Ugh I can’t get passed it, the end and the withdrawal.
Thank you Mah Lady.
Hope your feeling better.
The withdrawals are real.
The depression is real.
I find myself rewatching the series. Also I have no patience with the earliest episodes. I start around season 4 or 5 and then finish it time and time again...
Emilia Clarke, Best season ever. Poor Emilia she is terrible at lying
I like her more for it.
When I saw her saying that at the GOT premiere her eyebrows told me that she was disappointed.
I clicked so fast. The night is truly long now as we wait for the book.
I'm so glad you continue to do these videos. It seems like a few of the other folks have packed up since the show ended, but the universe is so much more than the show!!!
Karl Childers very true! So much more than the show!
The fire n blood book is amazing just reading the world of ice and fire brilliant. Gonnna read a Knight of the seven kingdoms next George R R Martin is a clever guy.
Yrs he is has such a great imagination an we all want more as much as we can get
I do not think, that Bran will be a good king, he was shown to be clearly unempathic and I do not refere to after he became the three eyed crow, but before. He had no remorse at all using Hodor like a tool, stealing his body without any need, thinking of using Hodors body to be with Meera, he ate human flesh while warging, a thing even his wild and dangerous assasinsister had shyed away from . . . . With the greenseers power he has the tools to be a great king, but he does not have the needed mindsetting of putting others peoples needs before your own. He has nothing of the idealism that Dany showed till she snappes, Tyrion still has after all he is been through, brought Ned to the grave and made Jon so well loved and a leading person under the wildlings.
But with Bran as he is, he is just one thing, dangerous! Even with beeing more nice he would not make a good king, he will be feered, not admired and feer is a dangerous motivation to follow someone. Also will sucsession be just as much of an topic as with Dany
Like intelligence agencies running government.
Woah. You just blew my mind. I didn't see the parallels between Aemon/ Jon and Bloodraven/Bran, but they're totally there!
I think King Bran in the books will actually be a villain...how can a person who can see the future and puts themselves on the throne not be? It means he knew basically every evil others are planning and let's them, maybe even pushes them
In the show Bran chooses not to warn Dany about Euron's ambush but does choose to let Jon know about his linage right then when it will complicate things for Jon and Dany (and Dany will be grieving soon already). What if Bran wanted King's Landing to burn and for Jon and Dany to both be knocked out of the running?
Dany has a lot of ideals in the show so maybe Bran wants her to loose them and flip out. That doesn't sound like a good person if Bran is planning to ruin peoples' lives and kill thousands.
Yes, I agree with that assumption. Bran could have spoken 2 Daenerys and warned her if U leave now Rhaegal and Missandei will die. Wait.
@@pplr1 Not its not like that. Bran didn't plan anything - KL buring, Dany's demise, Jon's action. Because we never saw anything that indicated Bran's involvement in those events. But yes i have to mention that the writers were very bad at storytelling. But still those were the major part of the entire story. I doubt that they will leave it for interpretation.
Secondly, Bran can't see the future, but only glimpses of the future and i don't think he can see the glimpses of the future whenever he wants.
Third, why he didn't warn about the ambuse??? see Dany and co were on their way to Dragonstone. It takes weeks or months to travel from Winterfell to Dragonstone. I doubt that he keep spyning on people day and night. He said he mostly lives in the past. i think he was unaware of their planning or even if he did it was too late. Again, the whole Eurons ambuse was poorly executed. So many things were happening and nothing well explained.
Fourth, Why did he ask Sam to tell the truth so soon?? because the great war was coming and he was not sure what will be the outcome. Didn't he ask Jaime- how do you know there will be afterwards?? (another proof Bran can't see the future) Since it was about Jon's parents and he deserves the truth Bran didn't waste any time to tell him the truth before the great war.
but thats my interpretation. But narrative wise they really sucked last season. Rushed everything, so many potholes and plot armor. They just told 15-20 episodes worth of story in just 6 episodes. I can say about same for season 7. But story wise it was great, not bad not great just good.
(Pardon my English)
@@Noobspirant It is ok that you have spelling problems (ambush is spelled "ambush"). I get that English isn't your 1st language and you are learning so-like I said-it is ok. To Bran, they never show just how much of the future Bran can see. However it is shown that at least some magic users in GoT can see the future and as a powerful magic user it is possible Bran can see more of the possible futures than others. D and D did a very bad job of telling the story-they managed to break with multiple characters when making season 8 (Dany and Varys are 2 of the most notable but other characters were harmed as well). So I think it is valid not to take season 8 seriously at all.
If people do take season 8 seriously then there is a problem because the detail in it matter. D and D may have intended to make Bran look like a nice person but his actions could very easily be interpreted to mean he has evil plans. Since Bran has these magic powers he doesn't need to talk with out people to plan things out.
But if you look at the impact of Bran's decisions or efforts they all seem to increase the likelihood that King's Landing burns. If he can see the future then that means he is knowingly trying to make the city burn.
Also in season 8 Bran can withhold the truth from people and possibly lie to them. He went looking through decades if not centuries to find a better chair design than what Tyrion gave him for free yet tells Tyrion he doesn't really "want" anymore. It seems like Bran may have simply been trying to trick Tyrion as someone who does that probably still wants things.
Sam is having 2nd thoughts about telling Jon about his linage. Bran is the one who encourages it and thus increases stress on Dany and Jon's relationship just when Dany is about to need a shoulder to lean on since she will be grieving for Jorah.
Bran knows Jon's linage but doesn't bring it up at the council when they are discussing who should be king. Bran really doesn't have a good excuse for that since he was pushing Jon's linage earlier. Unless the point of Jon's linage was to use it to harm Jon and Dany's relationship and only that-meaning once it had been used for that purpose Bran didn't want it brought up anymore (otherwise it may hinder him getting the crown).
Bran can also see both the past and present all over Westeros. So he should've seen Euron's ambush while it was in the early stages when Cersei and Euron were still talking about it and Euron's ships were being equipped with anti-dragon scorpions at King's Landing. So even if he cannot see the future that is something he should've been able to notice.
But odds are he can see the future in GoT. That is why he said "Why do you think I came all this way?" when Tyrion asked him if he would be king.
The writing is very flawed. It is possible this is all by mistake. But even if it is that these are mistakes, they are what D and D decided to include as part of season 8 which means they included the evidence Bran could be manipulating things in season 8.
I think that whatever returned from the North, it wasn't Bran.
Bloodraven warged into Bran and manipulated the events to set himself in the throne.
Moreover, when he is about to die, he will do the samething again, thus achieving immortality.
If Bran becomes King in the books it'll be set up better and more flushed out so I can't wait for the books but Bran being King in the show wasn't earned mainly because they rushed it. I felt like Bran should've been on the council as master of whisperers or as someone's hand only because the writers didn't build his story up to that point but who am I? I'm not a writer and the show has ended and I do accept what we got just me doing my rant as usual.
Sydni Taylor --Especially because it’s Bran who states several times that ‘I don’t ‘want’ anymore’ that to Tyrion, who admires Bran not wanting anything. Bran says he can’t be the master of Winterfell because of who he is now and yet BOOM, ‘I’ll be King’😳
The men who wrote it are not writers either so you are fine.
@@judywright4241 Yeah, I point out to people it is pretty clear Bran still has wants as he is sitting on the evidence. He wanted a better designed chair than what Tyrion gave him so he went shopping through decades to find one that he liked best. Pretty sure that is a display of him wanting still.
@@judywright4241 Is Bran incapable of lying?
Bloodraven loved Daemon but ended up killing him because Daemon refused to say "no homo".
Welcome back! My first question after the show ended was "Is Bran King or is BLOODRAVEN??" Love the video!
Yes I'd like to know that also
I keep wondering this myself. He is so alien now.
Yess time for book theories😍😍
Aegon IV was based on King John "Lackland" Plantagenet. I'm descended from one of his bastards. 😂 He was quite a colorful character.
Bloodraven is NOT the three-eyed crow! Bran asks him directly, and BR has no idea what Bran is on about.
In the books there is a theory that the three eyed Crow is really the Great Other.
Old Nan says "Don't listen to it, crows are all liars".
Nope… he is the crow. However,. He won’t know what form he takes in Bran’s dreams!
What if the Three-Eyed Crow is Euron Greyjoy disguised?!
Glad you've accepted Bran as king. Enjoyed this video very much 💜
My all time fav character. I think he was tricked into the cave just like Bran. He was the TER though and like Bran he wasn’t Brynden Rivers anymore.
John Latham I think he’s the most important character! Tons of foreshadowing was done thru BR
I have long wondered whether Coldhands might be a wighted corpse, skinchanged by Bloodraven. I think that will show the relationship of the Others and Wights, that they are animated through the same kind of magic that allows Bran to warg Summer.
Bloodraven needs to show Bran not just information he doesn't know to search for, but also the extent of his powers.
And I think Coldhands is an unwighted Ser Duncan the Tall...
I so appreciate any insight you can give us from the books, I read them so many years ago now that the show has clouded what I thought I knew? Lol, I just need to re-read them to get over my withdrawal from the show... I want to thank you for every candle you kept burning for us thru the long night. Be well Lady Gray 💕
History recalls how great the fall can be...that came to mind while you were talking.
Our best medicine are the books. Thanks for reminding us of this.
Hi, I’m sure this has been covered, but I’m interested in why and how the children had obsidian daggers. Are they connected to the Targaryens? Was the dragon glass there before the Targaryen?
Bloodraven in the books: red birthmark that looks like a raven. One eye. Horrifyingly fused with a tree.
Bloodraven in the show: max von Sydow. He’s kinda wrapped in roots I guess.
Thinking about it, if Bloodraven has a plan for the rule of Westeros it is most likely in the form that he himself ruled it: as the voice in the king's ear. I think it is most likely that his idea isn't for Bran to become king, but rather that Bran become the power behind the throne. This was how Bloodraven himself ran the kingdom and also why he never put himself forward as a candidate for the crown.
All that being said, this all assumes he has any say in the matter. If you'll remember a comment I made on one of your videos a year ago, I think Bloodraven is really just the pawn of a greater power. He may think it is his plan he is following. But I am sure something else, something far more powerful than him, is really pulling the strings. I ask Gemma on her patreon feed about whether there might be some overarching power manipulating the entire Targaryen family. I mean from Aegon onward. This power appears to be assuring that certain people sit on the throne, ensuring that others who might compete for it are removed. Bloodraven may just be another cog in this plan. Unfortunately, she never answered me.
You may be right. I think the powers that be wanted the Targaryens to die out and/or dilute their bloodline beyond repair. George has done so much on Valyrian and Targ history as opposed to any other house. Bloodraven choosing Egg is interesting because Egg’s wife is a Blackwood like him. Also, it’s interesting that you think Bloodraven is pawn. I think Mother Nature always wins. Dragons, white walkers and Valyrians are Anti- Nature And Destruction in its purest forms (ice and fire) and Bloodraven And Bran are the mechanisms to correct this corruption of nature.
@@GrayArea But there is more to it than that. If the Starks do have Children's blood in them than Jon has both the blood of the dragon and the blood of the forest. I can't help but think this is why he was specifically set up to be the king, that that unique combination is what is needed to restore whatever balance once existed.
I need to know where Drogon took Danny !!
Volantis
Sam said to bran "Drogon was heading east to Volan" and was cut off. Volantis and the red priestess is the answer.
Why wouldn't he take her to Valyria? He was seen there by Jorah and Tyrion.
@@jimmykimball7448 He might go there to look for a red priestess, like melisandre. Dany was the champion of the lord of light. Maybe drogon caught onto that in some way, since they claim he big brained, maybe he took her there to revive her
@@ricoambro Ah... very true. I just assumed he would return to Valeryia. You could be right though. Another point to make is since Kinvara never arrived to help in Winterfell, she should still be alive to help with the resurrection. Also she would probably be in Volantis so good on you!
I don't remember ever seeing this. Bloodraven sounds very sketchy 2 me! Where's Shiera Seastar? Bloodraven definitely sent the Starks the direwolves! #IstandwithDaenerys
Awwww girl I missed you! Glad you are feeling better!! ❤️❤️
I don't like the idea of Bran as king.
I guess I will have to wait and see how George write it in the books to see I am convinced.
But to be honest since I realized that this is ending it has taken a little bit of the Joy of the story. I just hope George can return it by giving a great twist to the ending.
If Bran won't be King of the Seven Kingdoms, at least make him the King in the North!
I can't wrap my head around bran being king.... Periodt
I don't think Bloodraven is the 3 Eyed Crow.
A Raven would be Raven, wouldn't he?
He seems confused at the question of hi being the Crow and the Children completely ignore it. We know the Children are not to be trusted.
I think Bloodraven always appeared as a tree and the Crow is The Other.
The touch did more than mark Bran. I think it gave The Other a way into his mind.
I think there's a great danger in accepting Bran into the midst of Winterfell.
George is very tricky. That's one of my favorite things about his writing.
In the show Bran chooses not to warn Dany about Euron's ambush but does choose to let Jon know about his linage right then when it will complicate things for Jon and Dany (and Dany will be grieving soon already). What if Bran wanted King's Landing to burn and for Jon and Dany to both be knocked out of the running?
I think Bran is a horrible choice for king if he can see the future and allowed or-worse-planned for thousands to die in King's Landing to get Jon and Dany out of the way. Bran picks when to tell Jon about his linage to put max stress on Jon and Dany's relationship at a time when Dany will be grieving. Then Bran refuses to warn Dany about Euron's ambush-putting Dany through more emotional pain and grieving. Bran may have seen what it would take for Dany to crack and did what he could to ensure it would happen which means Bran planned for thousands die in King's Landing as part of that. Lack of concern for people's lives or willingness to cause thus committing mass murder shows deep unfitness to be king either way.
Thank you for all your effort to explain the characters. I just think you could be making a mistake in assuming Bran (now no longer Bran) will use his powers for good when he may have already done the reverse.
I hated Bran in terms of what his character did to the story. The idea of an all knowing character coming back to town and blowing up everybody's secrets is so uninteresting. There were all these wonderful secrets, especially regarding Littlefinger. Peter got found out because Bran knows everything. That is so boring.
I love your videos but I have to correct you on this one in TV it was written badly Jon was not sent to walk to the wall by his own choice he was sent to the wall as a punishment to please Grey Worm as punishment for killing Daenerys Targaryen thank you for explaining it that the green eyed Raven 2 is he evil because that's what I would like to know because the way they've betrayed in the show as brand taking over brands body is evil because he knew all these things were going to happen and didn't do nothing and that's another thing that we were written better in the books to bran now be becoming the Rio 30 Draven would be better written by Georgia Martin because that also Wasn't written very well in the show in the show because of the way they wrote it which was stupid but I do agree with you however they George R R Martin will do it differently and much much better in the books it will be John's choice to go to the wall and not take the Thrown because yes he does not want the throne He doesn't want to be king it's what I hate about my favourite characters ending which is Jon Snow yes he would have ended up at the wall with the wild things and Tommo and ghost but it wasn't his choice he was sent there for punishment he was sent there for doing the right thing for killing Daenerys Targaryen who committing mass murder he shouldn't have been punished for that and the three-eyed raven as Bron he knew that was going to happen gets the throne that's not right how they wrote it was freaking stupid John wasn't responsible Daenerys Targaryen committing mass murder but bran as the three-eyed raven was responsible and he gets to be king can't wait for George R R Martin books because the way they've written this show really stinks
This is what I hate Brann of all people King he said to Tyrion at Winterfell I can't be lord of Winterfell I'm the 3 eyed raven but he's ok to be king an if Blood raven could do what he did he worged or skinchanged t got the man killed so I think well pretty certain as he knew what was going to happen an said nothing he could have I think told them or spoke to Daenarys about what her an Drogon were going to do I'm saying its all so wrong he could have changed it an Daenarys an Jon rule an why does he want to know where Drogon is
In the show Bran chooses not to warn Dany about Euron's ambush but does choose to let Jon know about his linage right then when it will complicate things for Jon and Dany (and Dany will be grieving soon already). What if Bran wanted King's Landing to burn and for Jon and Dany to both be knocked out of the running?
I miss GOT crazy I want a season9 but I guess I have to buy the dvds to get my fix
I politely disagree.
If this was really BloodRaven then Bran would have heard the puppy Ghost. I think it is safe to say the BloodRaven is NOT really in control just like Bran is no longer in control of his own body. It is the 3 Eyed Raven aka Bran the Builder that has been living multiple second lives first in the bodies of the green seer Children of the Forest then when his cave entrance was blocked by the Night King he lured the green seer Bloodraven to his cave just like he lured the green seeing Bran.
GRRM is making a HUGE distinction here that ONLY Jon could hear the pup. And an even bigger red flag that he contrast this with what Bran heard as we all know that the 3 Eyed Raven has an affinity for Bran and had been waiting for his birth for millennia. So alerting the reader that Jon could hear the pup but Bran couldn't is very telling.
I think that Catelyn was correct "The Old Gods sent five pups" for Rob, Sansa, Arya, Bran and Rickon... and someone else sent the 6th for Jon?
I am more likely to believe that the 3Eyed Raven sent 5 pups and the Night King sent one for Jon.
Aahhhh I’ve missed you!
i'm getting the impression that whatever Bran becomes, is something he had always been.
but that i mean: i'm thinking Blood Raven is Brans disciple.
the time traveling Bran likely taught BR everything BR knows; but not everything Bran knows, but just enough to convince BR so cause Brans creation (a time loop paradox, much like Hodor).
I believe Bran is almost every Bran throughout time; but not every Bran.
and one of those Bran's (lives), recruited Blood Raven, who Bran knew would be the one to create Bran as the "Three Eyed Raven" (w/e it'll be called).
by the end of the story, Bran will likely leave his body, and begin his very long existence through each Bran Stark, starting with Bran the Builder.
makes sense.
Nope, sorry, still think Bloodraven is evil. Who has the patience to wait hundreds of years, stuck in a tree, just to become king? And all the trickery that was involved? Only a complete crazy person could exude patience for his ultimate goal.
In the show Bran chooses not to warn Dany about Euron's ambush but does choose to let Jon know about his linage right then when it will complicate things for Jon and Dany (and Dany will be grieving soon already). What if Bran wanted King's Landing to burn and for Jon and Dany to both be knocked out of the running?
If Bran wanted Dany to loose it then he planned and pushed for ruining people's lives and killing thousands. How is that for evil?
Thank you for putting this altogether. I think you are spot on and maybe Bloodraven knew he could not be King because the issue of the Night King. Maybe he knew a dragon or three would be needed. I also think Bran's motives are now intertwined with Bloodraven's and are heavily influenced by the power of weirwood "gods" & CotF. Did you notice the delicate olive green leaf pattern at Sansa's neck on her coronation gown?
Thankyou for another great video Gray.
If season 8 was close to GRRMs outline, I must say I am glad he is a gardener-writer and not an architect. I hope he changes a lot of the ending as the story progress. About Bran as king, I think its a bit spooky to have a greenseer as king.....he does not need any system of intelligence or courts does he?....He becomes almost almighty....I dont like it really...
I was gob smacked when Tyrion said Brann an Branns answer was Why Do You Think I Came All This Way he knew everything an said nothing an send Jon north he realy doesn't care about anything except himself , get him out of , well there's no Throne anymore Drogon burnt it I saw that coming only cause Daenarys wanted to break the wheel an Aegon the Conqueror made the wheel with Balarion the black Dread made it so it made sense that Drogon would destroy it it broke my heart about Jon an Daenarys I luved them do much so whose hands are the Prequels an Sequels in thank god it's not Dan an Dave useless , I hope it's something who understands the books an the history of the books an show , I want more Game Of Thrones be it Prequels an Sequels I'm looking forward to seeing it all luv you Grey you are gold 🕍👑🐺❄🗡👑🐲🔥I luv the whole ASOIF WORLD this Show is so popular so many people luv it both books an show except for Season 8
In the show Bran chooses not to warn Dany about Euron's ambush but does choose to let Jon know about his linage right then when it will complicate things for Jon and Dany (and Dany will be grieving soon already). What if Bran wanted King's Landing to burn and for Jon and Dany to both be knocked out of the running?
I think you have presented the best explanation and argument as to why Brans character and Bloodravens backstory needed to be explored more and filled out. Without doubt it will be a more rewarding and intelligent payoff in the books. Love how you have explained the rhyming of Egg and Aemon, Bran and Jon and it makes so much more sense tidying up so many loose threads. Thankyou .
Very well researched. You have a beautiful voice. It reminds me of Ursula Rucker's in 4hero -The awakening.
I wish you could have written season 8
Yes Absolutely Dan an Dave or Dumb an Dumber ruined everything by taking over from George R R Martin I wonder how the Prequels an Sequels will go the World of Ice an Fire has so much more to make more shows I'm so interested in the history the Targaryans an Dragons , about the Blackfires which I thought Varys was
@@cherylbaxterstormborn477 I couldn't invest in another game of thrones after how this show ended. I wish I could. I just don't have the strength. Smh
No they had a monkey chained to a typewriter
I'm not sure if Bran is the best choice I'd definitely give him a high position on the council as master of whisperers or as someone's hand. When he let Sansa have the North as independent that would actually start a war because realistically Dorne and the Iron Islands would want to declare independence as well. But since the show ended it's not going to matter and also when Bran dies another war could start because whoever they pick for king could change the rules back to being that his son or daughter would inherit after him unless bran already has someone selected before he dies as a 3 eyed raven.
Luv is the death of duty yes it does echo loudly Maester Aemen said it Jon said it ,an I'd heard it a few times in the show an Jon said it to Tyrion when Daenarys put Tyrion in the cells , do you think Brann could have worged into Daenarys or Drogon at Kingslanding as he knew everything an said nothing an they made him king Jon should have been at that meeting Sansas as far as I'm concerned betrayed Jon to get what she wanted Qween of the north as the north not to be part of the 7 kingdoms
I always thought that Bran being told,but he will fly, meant that he would warg a dragon
In the show Bran chooses not to warn Dany about Euron's ambush but does choose to let Jon know about his linage right then when it will complicate things for Jon and Dany (and Dany will be grieving soon already). What if Bran wanted King's Landing to burn and for Jon and Dany to both be knocked out of the running?
Honestly think GRRM has just created things so people can talk about them with more interesting theories whilst he never planned anything for it but the people just have enough bait to talk for hours and days, years about this little thing or that.
Enjoyed this one. I tried to think of who else but Bran the group there in the Dragonpit might actually greed on and honestly I don't think that there was anyone.
While I think that bran would be a good king in theory I don’t think it would be that good in practice. Of course we would love to have a government that can foresee anything and potentially stop all wars, know every guilty criminal, every solution to every problem, but it all comes to the fact that humans are corruptible. With a government like that, HOW will it ever be challenged? How can you have any say in what happens to you if whatever the king chooses to say is instantly held to be absolute truth. You can’t lie, you can’t deceive, you can’t question, and the worst of all you will never be able to know when Bran lies or deceives, he will hold absolute power in a way. Daenerys was assassinated because they thought that if she was willing to burn an entire city full of innocents, even if it was for a greater cause and might’ve led to a better future for everyone, means that she is a crazy person and not fit to be queen, and that having a dragon is too overpowered. However, if Bran purposely manipulated everyone, let people die and go to war, just so he can be on the throne, wouldn’t he be just as bad as Daenerys? her ideals were known from the very start, she wanted to break the wheel, yet so far we don’t know what Bran’s motivations are. He might be able to see everything, but how do you judge what’s the best action for everyone? Periods of war often bring a period of rapid expansion and evolution right after, would he find it justified to start them because of an abstract reward which he personally places a value on? Unless there are clear forces that can contend with Bran like maybe other green seers or sorcerers, then I’d be a very wary peasant in Westeros right now.
I think that, in the end of the story, just like BloodRaven went beyond the wall, Bran will go to the Isle of Faces and watching everything there!
You weave a fascinating tale for Blood Raven. Something to think about. Carefully!
i think bloodraven was chosen to be the three eyed crow for his magical abilities as bran was chosen for his great magical abilities. I believe the three eyed crow is his own character and he transfers his consciousness into other magical being when his vessel weakens enough to have to have to move to another body similarly but more effectively to how varamyr six skins tried to do. So what if the three eyed crow is some person or more likely old and wise child of the forest who has traveled from green seer to green seer even as the children diminished and the only way to continue was to transfer into humans with the blood of the first men and being connected to the weirwood tress he can access the memories of all the children whose consciousness passed into the trees and through the weirwoods root sytems all the trees being connected he can see even further where the trees are. When bloodraven becomes the three eyed crow he gets absorbed and is not blood raven same with bran being lost in all the memories of the three eyed crow. I think the three eyed crow is more connected with the creation of the white walkers and maybe he is the great other or maybe not but definitely he has been around for a long time and he is powerful and the last of the children serve him and even sacrifice their lives for him. So yeah even if you dont agree i think you have to at least acknowledge the three eyed crow is its own character not bran and not bloodraven anymore.
About three eyed crow, i think it was him who made Theon took Winterfell, if he didnt do that Bran would never be able to leave the castle and go to the north. In A clash of kings Theon says, how did it started? How did I get here. I was meant to take my father ships to attack lannisport
I like your thinking there
I love hearing you read its very nice
6:36 hence why he belongs to Jon-another first men/Valyrian hybrid raised in first men culture as a bastard. A Valyrian father and a first men mother.
Jon and Brynden would've been besties in another life and I need to see them meeting during the process of Jon's resurrection in TWOW!
Did Bloodraven influence Aegon V ("Egg") in marrying Betha Blackwood?
That's true about blood Raven but is it true about the three-eyed Raven I think like Deadwood Game of Thrones will be back in 10 years as probably a long movie The bring back the surviving actors and actresses and I don't think the third major twist has been revealed yet. Daenerys was just a story Just Like Old Yeller LOL not a Twist if you read the books she had a burn them all side even more than the show. I think the third twist is is the three-eyed Raven isn't as good as we all think and he easily agreed with Grey Worm to send Jon away because he knows he's the one to end all magic we can still get the island of faces the burning of the weirwoods to end all magic like smoke screen predicted it could be done in a cool movie LOL oh and Tyrion did say 2 Jon maybe we'll see each other in 10 years.
If Bran turns out to be a bad guy who manipulated events to his advantage then I would be ok with him being King. If Martin finishes his books and he has Bran as King and then goes on to tell us Bran is not a good guy. Perhaps the CoTF are the ones ruling over humans via Bran. I still think it's possible Bran could have done something to Dany and Drogon. I just have a hard time believing Bran is just a really good guy ruling the 6 kingdoms. Bran said he couldn't be Lord of Winterfell because he is the three eyed raven then we are expected to believe he can be King of the 6 kingdoms. What changed? That seems to be a question we may never get the answer to. Martin seems to be doing other projects now so I don't see him finishing the books. Sometimes I feel he has no intention of writing the last two books because he doesn't show any interest in finishing the books.
Love your as always and first Like!❤
So glad you are still doing vids, when we all have withdrawal symptoms :)
Anne231154 I had a slight depression after GOT ended! But we are a step closer to winds of winter!!!
@@GrayArea We are all feeling down gray, you are not alone. Still haven't recovered since the finale
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the juice Gray.
You said what if blood raven had seen something in future and hated blackfyre for it ? Well I think this might be true what if the Ageon who's cliam was supported by Varys in the book is truly not a targeryan but a blackfyre what if he is trying to conquer iron throne by faking as a son of Rhaegar
I love your videos!
Luv this all your videos but I don't think Brann would be a good king an why does Tyrion get to be Hand again something strange about that what's Brann going to do as King
Thanks for the info ,like always you are the best.❤ cant wait more videos from G.o.T ep. Keep giong strong💪👏
Your videos are always brilliant!
Thank you SO much! I love it.
Girl i get what you saying but i think maester aemon is Jon in this story and bran is not supposed to be on the throne. Jon was asked and refused rhe throne like maester Aemon did and went to the wall! History repeating!
Needed this juice!! Thanks for giving me life
Loved this video. Super informative and in depth. Great analysis!!!
Although, I don’t think bran being king would be a good choice. Which is also why I believe blood raven stepped down from the power himself. It’s like that old spider man saying goes “With great power comes great responsibility”, or that other quote “Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses and while foresight is a great strength that gives a huge advantage, it’s more suited to someone who is a hand to a king. Bran is a greatly in tune with spirit and the magickal realm of GOT- but he isn’t really a Leader. He doesn’t stir the hearts of people the way Jon or Daenerys do. He isn’t a conqueror, or a Uniter of people. He isn’t like Dany, who freed slaves and convinced a mostly patriarchal society to not only accept her but to FOLLOW her in her quest, and he isn’t like Jon who United countless houses and convinced them to lay down their lives against a common enemy. Bran has a leg up, but If GOT has taught us anything being quick, clever, having magic abilities or guile or wit alone is not enough. You have to have that It ™ factor to really be able to rally nations together. What makes the most sense to me is if Bran continues along in his spiritual journey, alone, and finds a way to defeat “winter”. I think Bran’s destiny is a much greater purpose than just politics or the iron throne.
Wouldn't be surprised that D&D did not end the show at the books' planned ending, but a bit before, and that the books will cover some time with Bran as ruler. In the books, the Blackfyres are essentially retaking power through Aegon, so BR having more importance post-WW-plot makes sense considering his past. I suspect Bran will permanently warg into Aegon, a popular ruler, to rule.
"Hodor wasn't always Hodor"
-Bran
Yaay! You are back! 👍
Glad you're feeling better and so happy to see you back.. I absolutely love these back stories and since the series ended it seems so did most of the videos. Thank you!! Please keep them up!!
Yay!!! Great character pick💕😊 I know this isn't specifically Bloodraven, but I'm curious about his relationship with Shiera Seastar😎 Damn. I'm just into The Mystery Knight. Just got to wedding!! Girl, you spoiled it🤣 It's cool. I can't wait to finally finish💖📚
awesome video
Always look forward to your videos. There IS power in a great story, and you’re getting us through the real “long night “ that GRRM is putting us through.
You find the best art clips for your videos
wow that could be so good!
What I don’t get is Joffrey killed Ned but Joffrey wasn’t a Baratheon but a Lannister “a lion”. So was it simply King Robert commanding Ned to go to Kingslandind that was the warning that caused both their demise?
Gray Lady returns
GA!!!
Love your vids.. so insightful
Oh how I’ve missed your videos
I need WoW now... I don't feel anything about this series after that season lol Truly depressing
I find it hard to watch as I'm heartbroken about the whole of season 8 , like why with all the foreshadowing about Jon an Daenarys being pregnant I always thought they'd get married in the Godswood an maybe find a cluch of dragon eggs I was ok with season 7 only 8 disappointed me
@@cherylbaxterstormborn477 Similar. Thanks. This wasn't bittersweet so much as bitterdull, bitterdumb, or (maybe) bitterdark (if Bran is evil and planned killing thousands to knock Dany and Jon out of the way).
cemented did you mean? When talking about the wolves eyes-- it sounded like seamented ;)
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Love this
It White Dragon. PS in show version that is not Blood Raven it some one else. He said that he was in cave for 1000 years.
Your narration is superb!
bloodraven and/or bran can be a very good thing.
can even be the only viable option for life on westeros, even the world of westeros.
but only in the sense that, the God Emperror Leto 2nd. was a very good choice as the emperror of the known universe, even for all humanity, and even even the only option that resulted humanity not ending. (no aliens were ever contacted in dune, so it can be said leto was saving all life around the known universe).
but noone can say the subjects of godemperor enjoyed his reign. and i suspect the same about bran(s).
Good points and comparison. However Bran manipulated things to get the crown away from 2 people that had done more to help others after the threat to human life had already been dealt with. Meaning he grabbed power, but not to save humanity (he wanted it and still has wants).
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indeed. 👍
i was trying to be generous to the tree spirit/s.😔😁
hence the "can". me saying i suspect the same about him was meant to say i susect brans subjects wont enjoy bran s reign either.
Can someone help me out please? "127 Years after Aegon's Conquest is the year 175AC"..."AC" = "After' (Aegon's) 'Conquest"...what am I missing?!
Ok but that first pic of Bloodraven looked an awful lot like grown-up Aemond Targaryen from HotD!
Good to have my queen gray back
Does "have came" have a different meaning as "have come"? I am not a native English speaker. Thanks.
Hi Ricardo, "have come" is what is grammatically right. "Have came" is technically wrong but lots of native English speakers use colloquialisms that are technically wrong so... good luck!
What's the significance of Rickon's wolf having moss-green eyes? I mean, even Bran's wolf, Summer, only has *yellow* eyes (like the remaining three wolves).
Sweet Lady Gray I felt your pain, your're feeling betrayed by GOT. But you got me through the long night & through the ending with all the groundwork laid in you videos. Thank you. Since GRRM & I are of an age, I fear I will never get to read the final books. So I count on your juice to get me by.
Renee Barger , aww! Your comment makes me sad! Here’s to your health AND Martin’s so we can get those books!💕
No wargs I think is a person who can WARG into one Animal. Like the willing who attacked Jon as a bird and the other one who warned into an OWL to look at the wall b4 they attacked in series 4 ep 9. A WARG HAS A SPECIFIC ANIMAL THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM WHICH THEY CAN WARG INTO.
Welcome back, Gray! Love your content. I learn so much from your videos. Thank you for being an awesome maester. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😊
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You’re a super legit creator Grey. This video has made me a life long fan. Thanks for this sweet sweet content.
i dont believe bloodraven is the three eyed crow that bran sees in his dreams. raven vs crow, george wrote like this for a reason, they are not the same bird. the series got called it three eyed raven making them the same, but i doubt that is like that in the books. i believe that bloodraven is a sacrifice made by the children of the forest to the weirwood tree, because of his greenseer habilities and probably because he does have targaryen blood. when bran asked him if he is the 3 eyed crow he thinks it has to do with him being once a nights watch, also called crows, but he doesnt connect the question to that entity called 3 eyed crow, he doesnt even know what bran is talking about. this is on Bran 2 in ADWD. i do believe as you said that bloodraven probably is controlling ravens, but not crows.