Just when I thought I knew everything about this game, I see a video about a status affect that nobody in game mentions that you can only even have a chance of getting from an item that nobody would ever have any use for beyond filling out the recipe book. What a time to be alive.
Allergies, also known as allergic diseases, refer to a number of conditions caused by the hypersensitivity of the immune system to typically harmless substances in the environment. These diseases include hay fever, food allergies, atopic dermatitis, allergic asthma, and anaphylaxis. Symptoms may include red eyes, an itchy rash, sneezing, coughing, a runny nose, shortness of breath, or swelling. Note: food intolerances and food poisoning are separate conditions.
@@edfreak9001 I was really curious about this too and searched for it in Japanese. I found a page that talked about statuses and apparently it's simply called むこうか (invalid / made invalid). むこうか： 状態異常が回復し、全ての状態異常にならなくなる。 アイテム「うちゅうしょく」敵「カゲの女王」など。 "Restores abnormal status and all statuses become null. (Comes from) Item "Space food" and Enemy (Shadow Queen) " I guess "allergy" was a better option since it only comes from food/Shadow Queen...
I vaguely remember reading about this status in a wiki and not giving it much thought. Interesting to see you actually put it to use. This status is so rare that the blatant mistranslation for its effect was never caught. "Status hasn't changed!" really does not explain what it does, "Status can't change!" or something would work better. The actual testers and proofreaders must have never seen this in-game.
I've always felt that statuses like these are pretty underused in TTYD. I mean, many players hardly even know about allergic since it so rarely comes up. Heck, I don't think I knew much about it until fairly recently. Also, as you said, the fact that Space Food won't always inflict allergic sucks. If it did always do it, it would have at least a bit of strategic potential, as it is definitely a unique status effect. The fast and slow statuses are also a bit underused in my opinion, but at least not to quite the same extent as allergic.
It does seem fairly obscure. Despite the fact that I knew this status effect existed long before I started challenge running, it didn’t really stick in my head until after I started challenge running.
@@metamayto Yep. Fast allows the character inflicted with it to act twice per turn, while Slow makes it so they can only act every other turn. They are both used a little bit. Fast is used during Macho Grubba's fight, which is how he is able to both buff himself and attack in a single turn. Also, during the second Shadow Sirens fight in the Palace of Shadow, Beldam can inflict slowness on Mario or his partner, or inflict fastness on one of her allies. Like allergic, these aren't used very much, but I would say they are at least a bit less obscure. Fast in particular is probably a bit better known, as there is a whole boss fight that heavily utilizes it.
@@Miccat87 Ahhh, okay. I do remember Grubba doing that, but I didn't know it was just called "fast" lol. I was expecting something akin to the fast/slow flowers from SPM.
@@Miccat87 I never knew there was a Slow status effect, I knew about the fast status effect because you see it quite early in the game but never the slow one, is it a rare attack of Beldam ?
Poison doesn't do enough total damage to justify the cost of an item, just use a healing item. It is better against status effects which make you lose 3+ turns.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 well poison does make peril impossible to manage. You cannot maintain peril while being poisoned without being forced to break peril. In a slightly more casual playthrough it could definitely make it more viable in those kinds of fights
THAT'S why everytime I used Space Food in battle, however few they were, I'd get a little yellow star next to my character. I've been wondering about that for years. I was just NOT getting this status.
I think it'd be super neat if it froze the counters of already existing status effects, would further increase it's use, even if it's little. In particular, I think it'd be super cool if it allowed you to retain Charge effects. But this is what we got lmao
@@GarryDumblowski Not sure if it does or doesn’t. I never experienced this effect. I’m saying that if it DID freeze the timer, it would be too powerful.
@@imjustalittleqwerty That would be pretty busted, to be fair. I did consider a subtly weaker effect where statuses can't run out but they still tick down, and when the allergic status runs out you immediately lose all of the statuses that ran out during the duration of the status.
This is incredible. There really is a myriad of things to discover about this game. I wish this status effect could be inflicted by regular enemies to keep you from being overpowered and force you to rethink your strategy, especially in the Pit.
The Japanese text for this status says "じょうたいへんかの こうかが かからなくなったぞ！" which means something along the lines of "The effects of transformations/status changes can't be inflicted/obtained now!" Without context this line would be hard to translate.
Funny enough , the hero mode demo mod has an item that attacks and causes allergic, I had a boss that had the effect on them when they tried to buff and it didn't do anything, it was neat
Yes, I have literally never eaten Space Food. I used to make it, because that one quest gives you a dried bouquet and what else are you gonna do with it? Plus it fills your recipes, only in the remake, just getting one from the hotel gives you the recipe, so why bother?
If space food didn't come so late in the game when you more than likely have access to much better healing items, I feel like this probably would've gotten a lot of use and more people would've known about it.
@@megasoniczxx in Petalburg, just give a Bub-ulber a hot dog, and he’ll give u a Dried Bouquet as a trade It’s a side quest unlocked after you beat Chapter 3, and the hot dogs can only be bought at the hot dog stand at Glitzville for 10 coins
Honestly I really like that unlike Feeling Fine, the status could block freezes from stage effects and Ice Storms, or any unguarded attack from the sort
I was actually about to say "isn't this just a worse Feeling Fine?", but I didn't think about that aspect, that the badge doesn't protect against _elemental_ status effects like freezing.
I find it hilarious that the only sources of this status is an attack used by _an ancient queen of shadows whose power nearly wiped out the world in a wave of darkness_ and dehydrated astronaut food.
I do have vague memories of Mario having that "star pops off" animation after using an item once. I thought I had just imagined it, I didn't realize it was actually PART of Space Food (which I'm fairly sure I only used once all game). That's fascinating.
The fact that Space Food sucks and can also be obtained by sleeping at Fahr Outpost further makes it infuriating how useless Dried Bouquets are, given the annoyance you have to go through to get them.
It's unfortunate that the benefit of Allergic is essentially the same as Feeling Fine, but with 100% consistency as a 4BP. Granted, it additionally doesn't protect against Freeze, and Space Food is also available after Chapter 4, whereas Feeling Fine is in Chapter 7. Still, I don't want to show up to Bonetail with only a 50% chance for my strategy to work, as you noted, lol.
It's things like this that make TTYD my favorite game on the gamecube, and among my favorite mario games of all time. A game with a seemingly simple battle system is layered with so many hidden details and facets that even decades after it's release, even for hardcore fans, it still finds ways to surprise.
that sound effect is weird. yeeooh! everything about it is implemented strangely. the unique sound effect, the food it's attached to, the 50/50 on even activating, the dried bouquets used to make it, the message you get when it applies, and even the name, "allergic"
i love when RPGs throw in a bunch of obscure rare stuff. But i don't love when it's opaque like this, instead of giving you a useful onscreen explanation. How hard would it be to write "you were allergic to that one. Status can't change!"
I randomly read a comment on another older video about how Allergic's in-game message is mistranslated (it should say something like "Status can't change!"), and how you can't get any new statuses once it appears. The Space Food infliction I only recently learned since one of my friends got back into TTYD from a streamer he watches VODs of. The status was also mentioned in the Nintendo Power strategy guide but I don't recall it being expanded on too much so I'd have to dig that out. In experience, it only appeared when I'd replay the Shadow Queen fight years ago with a save file immediately before her that I'd reset without saving on to keep available, and I didn't think much of it at the time that it was nowhere else in the game. Neat to have a video though!
I was thinking that the message didn't make sense! I mean, I guess if you know it prevent statuses it would reassure you that your previous status is in effect, but it doesn't convey to the player what it does.
Hey, speaking of the Nintendo power guide, I remember one of the status effects that it mentions being "knocked out" or something of the sort. It basically describes it as taking you back to the title screen, but it never explicitly says it's from reaching 0 HP. It even shows it as having an icon. I've never even been able to make out what that icon looks like, and have always wondered if I was the only one ever mystified by it.
Only got halfway through the video before realising that wasn't a statement (as in, 'this time it failed') but a mistranslation... I couldn't find the Japanese text, but I assume there probably wasn't a tense included, so 'status hasn't changed'(past) and 'status won't change'(future) looked the same... And maybe nobody knew where to find the line to check. Japanese sites list the JP status name as "むこうか"(Nullify) instead, which seems much clearer...
@@poolpure272 KO is what happens when an enemy succumbs to showstopper. It’s programmed as a status effect presumably so the devs could easily adjust what enemies are more susceptible to it. Not sure why it would appear in NP, other than those writers just getting a list of every status effect in the game from the developers without realizing that no enemies in game can inflict KO on Mario, and Mario doesn’t actually see anything when he does it to someone. Also, I have no idea if Gale Force/Fright Mask are considered KO effects.
Allergic is a status I have always found super interesting conceptually. It's a shame it's so underused in the game, so I'm glad to see a guide on it! How cool would it have been for bosses to put this status on mario to avoid buffing strats? Or being able to inflict it on enemies to prevent them from charging? It really has a lot of potential.
I literally didn’t even know this status effect existed until the remake which was my 5th time playing the game. Ate a space food on the Moon to see if they updated it to work like in Super Paper Mario but instead got the Allergic effect and didn’t know what it did.
This is so interesting! I've 100%'d this game many times and still don't know everything.. The other day I watched a video with super rare stage events - meteor and bowser statue. Didn't know those one either. You could bring more videos with curious stuff like this one.
I don't think I've ever seen the Allergic Status encountered in game before, I've seen it once or twice in other videos but never have I seen it encountered naturally without some kind of hacks. Thank you for this little dive into it's potentially, albeit highly impracticable, applications!
It'd be nice if you could combine space food with some other item to get guaranteed "allergic" effect, so you wouldn't have to rely on RNG. Very interesting video, I really didn't know about this!
This status could have alot more interesting interactions if it weren't so limited by the 50% or a chance on the last boss. Hopefully more devs can add this to their tool belt for more games in the future.
I've gotten inflicted with this by the shadow queen once and never figured out what it did or found another source of it! Thanks for clearing up the confusion, I was so confused.
I've gotten this effect a couple times from Shadow Queen fights. I always assumed that it existed as kind of a softened blow to make the fight easier. Like, the breath attack is guaranteed to give you a status effect, but sometimes it'll give you a status effect that does nothing to help a player struggling with the fight. I never realized it prevented further effects, even positive ones, from taking place.
Yep, that’s what it does. I didn’t know what the status effect was called when I fought the Shadow Queen the first time, but now I do. The good thing is, allergic doesn’t take away any positive status effects, such as ones from Power Lift, before you were affected by it.
Feeling Fine blocks status effects like Poison, Dizziness and some others, but I don't think all of them. Allergic can be used to avoid getting immobilized by X Yuxes which have a 100% chance of working if you don't guard.
TTYD has so many odd little statuses and badges and little interactions that are just way too weak to make use of. And it's not even just because standard peril strats are so strong, even in a slower, more balanced game a lot of them likely wouldn't find much of a use since there's so few ways to actually induce the mechanic(s) in question. Imagine if there was a badge that induced this? Could be kind of neat, like a knock-off Feeling Fine for less BP or something.
I remember getting affected by this status condition when fighting against the Shadow Queen in the remake, but I actually didn’t know I had been affected by it because I, at the time, didn’t know what its symbol stood for. Now I know.
Wow, I always thought it nullified any status you already had for a few turns, rather than preventing you from gaining new ones. I guess the status message wasn't translated correctly.
I just thought about it, in situations where an item that restores AT LEAST 10hp and 5fp are needed for peril or danger loops, you could use Spicy Pasta (10hp 10fp +1attk). I love how many weird and niche use case recipes there are
Being allergic to status change. The accurate name for it is "equalized" but make sense consider it come from food. I love quirky stuff like this. What a particular sound effect.
"Balanced", "Resistant", "Immune"? Those might be better names that might better indicate what the status does. Not to mention that terrible "Status hasn't changed!" makes everything even more confusing, lol.
I feel like the textbox when you get inflicted with Allergic is also badly translated. Probably because who would actually find the status and correct it, right? "Status won't change!" or "Inmune to all status effects!" would be a better description, I believe.
Pretty much repeating what a few other comments have said, but the potentiality of Space Food/Allergy being an early, quasi-Feeling Fine item that act as a neutral state, as well as having the added benefit of nullifying elemental stage hazards, is super cool. It just sucks that not only do you get it a remote fashion via completing two different Trouble Center tasks after CH4, it has that 50% chance which pretty much kills any momentum it could've had. At that point, you really are just better off holding off a bit longer for FF, as well as use other items and abilities to mitigate the hazards.
Allergic with a 50/50 activation rate would be a good badge. Any incoming debuffs? Flip a coin and maybe ignore it. But remember that any buffs flip that same coin.
Bonetail has four different megabreaths, and each has a different status condition. The white one causes sleep, the blue one freezes, the green one causes confusion, and purple shrinks.
WHAT!? I… I never heard of this before! The fuck! Well now I see why, a food item I never use and a possible breath status by the FINAL BOSS OF THE GAME.
I disagree on your opinion of Space Food… Kind of. The idea of a status effect shield that protects you from things like poison and sleep at the cost of neutralizing buffs sounds awesome! The problems I have are that: A) Space Food is impossible to get until after you get Zess T. the cookbook and get Dried Bouquets from what’s his name in Petalburg. And B) The game goes into little detail about the allergic status even when it actually pops up. If people understood it more, and we got access to Space Food around Chapter 4, it would have some enemy encounters a lot easier. Namely Craziee Dayzees and all the ice enemies on the path to Fahr Outpost. Those stun locking bastards can eat a dick.
There's a lot of food in general that makes me feel like the Zess T cookbook should've been no later than mid chapter 3, post-Chapter 4 is way too late in the game for some of those combo items to first be possible
I agree that a shield against negative status effects is awesome, but Allergic also shields against positive status effects, like attack and defense boosts, which isn’t so awesome.
@@JZJ7777 I feel like that’s just a downside you’d have to work around. The allergic status doesn’t cleanse or remove anything you’ve already had applied, so if you use Power Lift or charge before eating the space food, you’ll be fine.
@@rodrickgoldberg2324 yeah, I think I realized this after I made this comment since I used Power Lift during my last battle against the Shadow Queen before she inflicted Allergic on me with her breath attack, and, yeah, the attack and defense boost stayed.
I think it would be better if this effect lasted more turns and had a 60% chance to do something like Pokemon's "flinch" effect, wherein you aren't damaged, but you kind of convulse, sticking you in place and making you skip your turn. If Rally Wink is up, this will only affect the turn it activates on.
I had this effect before and just, assumed it was paralysis but...huh To know what this actually is and why, I kinda like it. But if only it worked in cases I needed it to work
This further proves that the first two Paper Mario games are the best Paper Mario games of all time. All these years later and I'm still finding out strategies and things in the game that I've never even heard of or considered. I'm amazed that people are still putting out new technical videos and new glitch and speedrun strategy videos.
I wish this was maybe slightly more common but I really wish the "Slow" status effect came up a little more. It's got to be the rarest one. It has insane potential and 99% of players don't know it exists.
I know! I got this effect against her in the remake and had no idea what it was either. I didn’t read the status effect when I was inflicted with it, so I was confused. It’s a good thing I didn’t use something that would inflict a status condition on me, such as Power Lift, or otherwise I would’ve been even more confused.
Just when I thought I knew everything about this game, I see a video about a status affect that nobody in game mentions that you can only even have a chance of getting from an item that nobody would ever have any use for beyond filling out the recipe book. What a time to be alive.
Same. I knew it existed, but I had never heard the sound of it activating before.
how you spell effect wrong its in the title ffs
@@abyssalAnnihilation It's the your/you're effect, if I had to guess.
@@abyssalAnnihilation It's a commonly confused word pair like all of the to(s).
You can also get the effect from the shadow queen. the mist attack has 3 variations. one of them is this.
"Status hasn't changed" is the most undescriptive thing they could've wrote.
they’ve could’ve just said “You can’t receive any status effects!”
Thankfully, the remake changed it to "Can't be affected by status changes!" which is much better
It was a mistranslation
I guess it's supposed to read "status can't change!"
@@gengarguy8801 It has to be. This confused me so much as a kid.
Here I was thinking the “allergic” effect would function like poison, except it can only be cured by the ultra rare, hidden item “epinephrine pen.”
I'm more fan of dexamethasone
Allergies, also known as allergic diseases, refer to a number of conditions caused by the hypersensitivity of the immune system to typically harmless substances in the environment. These diseases include hay fever, food allergies, atopic dermatitis, allergic asthma, and anaphylaxis. Symptoms may include red eyes, an itchy rash, sneezing, coughing, a runny nose, shortness of breath, or swelling. Note: food intolerances and food poisoning are separate conditions.
For an extensive 800 coins in the American release :^D
If only my spring allergies would make me immune to status effects. I'd be an unstoppable sneezy juggernaut.
The fact that it’s called allergic is funny. Like that’s how how allergies work…
considering how obscure this mechanic is I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's horribly mistranslated.
@@edfreak9001 I was really curious about this too and searched for it in Japanese. I found a page that talked about statuses and apparently it's simply called むこうか (invalid / made invalid).
むこうか：
状態異常が回復し、全ての状態異常にならなくなる。
アイテム「うちゅうしょく」敵「カゲの女王」など。
"Restores abnormal status and all statuses become null. (Comes from) Item "Space food" and Enemy (Shadow Queen) "
I guess "allergy" was a better option since it only comes from food/Shadow Queen...
Nullify would've been a nice name too, but they tried and I appreciate those who try
Maybe “immutable" is a better word.
I think “Strange” is a simple status name that would have gotten the point across.
I vaguely remember reading about this status in a wiki and not giving it much thought. Interesting to see you actually put it to use.
This status is so rare that the blatant mistranslation for its effect was never caught. "Status hasn't changed!" really does not explain what it does, "Status can't change!" or something would work better. The actual testers and proofreaders must have never seen this in-game.
Yeah, I was thinking it should've been along the lines of "Status won't change!"
I've always felt that statuses like these are pretty underused in TTYD. I mean, many players hardly even know about allergic since it so rarely comes up. Heck, I don't think I knew much about it until fairly recently. Also, as you said, the fact that Space Food won't always inflict allergic sucks. If it did always do it, it would have at least a bit of strategic potential, as it is definitely a unique status effect. The fast and slow statuses are also a bit underused in my opinion, but at least not to quite the same extent as allergic.
It does seem fairly obscure. Despite the fact that I knew this status effect existed long before I started challenge running, it didn’t really stick in my head until after I started challenge running.
Wait there are fast and slow status effects?
@@metamayto Yep. Fast allows the character inflicted with it to act twice per turn, while Slow makes it so they can only act every other turn. They are both used a little bit. Fast is used during Macho Grubba's fight, which is how he is able to both buff himself and attack in a single turn. Also, during the second Shadow Sirens fight in the Palace of Shadow, Beldam can inflict slowness on Mario or his partner, or inflict fastness on one of her allies. Like allergic, these aren't used very much, but I would say they are at least a bit less obscure. Fast in particular is probably a bit better known, as there is a whole boss fight that heavily utilizes it.
@@Miccat87 Ahhh, okay. I do remember Grubba doing that, but I didn't know it was just called "fast" lol. I was expecting something akin to the fast/slow flowers from SPM.
@@Miccat87 I never knew there was a Slow status effect, I knew about the fast status effect because you see it quite early in the game but never the slow one, is it a rare attack of Beldam ?
Man, it's really too bad this effect is so rare. Not having to worry about DoTs makes for some really clean fights.
Poison doesn't do enough total damage to justify the cost of an item, just use a healing item.
It is better against status effects which make you lose 3+ turns.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 well poison does make peril impossible to manage. You cannot maintain peril while being poisoned without being forced to break peril. In a slightly more casual playthrough it could definitely make it more viable in those kinds of fights
"DoTs", please stop, it's Paper Mario for fuck sake
@@Bladieblah 🤡
@@Bladieblah And? I fail to see the problem. If this channel and others has shown me anything is that Paper Mario is surprisingly technical
THAT'S why everytime I used Space Food in battle, however few they were, I'd get a little yellow star next to my character. I've been wondering about that for years.
I was just NOT getting this status.
So... upon consuming the nourishment of those among the stars, Mario transcends above Earthly status effects?
50% of the time, yes.
This is implying that alien status effects would still affect Mario.
@@murphmariotwopointoh7714 i mean of course they do allergic actually stops working if you use it on the moon true fact
mario is alien too, you know. or at least I haven't seen any race in the mushroom world that looks like him and his friends (luigi, peach etc.)
@@Pao-vo8mf If you want to go down that route, have you considered the kings in smb3? What about the Super Crown?
I think it'd be super neat if it froze the counters of already existing status effects, would further increase it's use, even if it's little. In particular, I think it'd be super cool if it allowed you to retain Charge effects. But this is what we got lmao
That would be busted and break the game even more.
@@imjustalittleqwerty Wait, I thought it *did* freeze the counters of already existing statuses?
@@GarryDumblowski Not sure if it does or doesn’t. I never experienced this effect. I’m saying that if it DID freeze the timer, it would be too powerful.
@@imjustalittleqwerty That would be pretty busted, to be fair. I did consider a subtly weaker effect where statuses can't run out but they still tick down, and when the allergic status runs out you immediately lose all of the statuses that ran out during the duration of the status.
@yoshiwoollyworld charge is removed after using a damaging move.
This is incredible. There really is a myriad of things to discover about this game. I wish this status effect could be inflicted by regular enemies to keep you from being overpowered and force you to rethink your strategy, especially in the Pit.
(Suddenly imagines Dark Wizzards using this)
Nope. Nope. All the Nope.
Poor Mario being allergic to literally everything after ingesting some Space food D:
The Japanese text for this status says "じょうたいへんかの こうかが かからなくなったぞ！" which means something along the lines of "The effects of transformations/status changes can't be inflicted/obtained now!"
Without context this line would be hard to translate.
Imagine if this status ailment could be inflicted on the enemy. I bet Macho Grubba would be fun to fight with it on.
Presumably he'd try to apply Fast status in perpetuity if he didn't already have it active, lol.
Funny enough , the hero mode demo mod has an item that attacks and causes allergic, I had a boss that had the effect on them when they tried to buff and it didn't do anything, it was neat
@@jdaster64Now I need to see a video of the player just bullying him as he hopelessly tries to speed up.
I always assumed Space Food was a clone of Mushroom, never knew it gave you Allergic because I never used it.
Yes, I have literally never eaten Space Food. I used to make it, because that one quest gives you a dried bouquet and what else are you gonna do with it? Plus it fills your recipes, only in the remake, just getting one from the hotel gives you the recipe, so why bother?
If space food didn't come so late in the game when you more than likely have access to much better healing items, I feel like this probably would've gotten a lot of use and more people would've known about it.
You can cook it with dried bouquet+ pretty much any healing item
@@RyouShi98 You get dried bouquet's in Twilight Town right? It's been a while since i've played.
@@megasoniczxx yes
@@megasoniczxx in Petalburg, just give a Bub-ulber a hot dog, and he’ll give u a Dried Bouquet as a trade
It’s a side quest unlocked after you beat Chapter 3, and the hot dogs can only be bought at the hot dog stand at Glitzville for 10 coins
Wow I had no clue this status effect even existed. I assumed this video was about a mod at first (and quickly realized it was not). Amazing!
Same
Honestly I really like that unlike Feeling Fine, the status could block freezes from stage effects and Ice Storms, or any unguarded attack from the sort
I was actually about to say "isn't this just a worse Feeling Fine?", but I didn't think about that aspect, that the badge doesn't protect against _elemental_ status effects like freezing.
@@WackoMcGoosedoesn't Feeling Fine do this in the remake now
I find it hilarious that the only sources of this status is an attack used by _an ancient queen of shadows whose power nearly wiped out the world in a wave of darkness_
and dehydrated astronaut food.
I do have vague memories of Mario having that "star pops off" animation after using an item once. I thought I had just imagined it, I didn't realize it was actually PART of Space Food (which I'm fairly sure I only used once all game). That's fascinating.
The fact that Space Food sucks and can also be obtained by sleeping at Fahr Outpost further makes it infuriating how useless Dried Bouquets are, given the annoyance you have to go through to get them.
It's unfortunate that the benefit of Allergic is essentially the same as Feeling Fine, but with 100% consistency as a 4BP. Granted, it additionally doesn't protect against Freeze, and Space Food is also available after Chapter 4, whereas Feeling Fine is in Chapter 7.
Still, I don't want to show up to Bonetail with only a 50% chance for my strategy to work, as you noted, lol.
It's things like this that make TTYD my favorite game on the gamecube, and among my favorite mario games of all time. A game with a seemingly simple battle system is layered with so many hidden details and facets that even decades after it's release, even for hardcore fans, it still finds ways to surprise.
that sound effect is weird. yeeooh! everything about it is implemented strangely. the unique sound effect, the food it's attached to, the 50/50 on even activating, the dried bouquets used to make it, the message you get when it applies, and even the name, "allergic"
i love when RPGs throw in a bunch of obscure rare stuff. But i don't love when it's opaque like this, instead of giving you a useful onscreen explanation. How hard would it be to write "you were allergic to that one. Status can't change!"
The Shadow Queen can inflict you with allergic even if you have Feeling Fine equipped (or at least in the remake she can)
I randomly read a comment on another older video about how Allergic's in-game message is mistranslated (it should say something like "Status can't change!"), and how you can't get any new statuses once it appears.
The Space Food infliction I only recently learned since one of my friends got back into TTYD from a streamer he watches VODs of.
The status was also mentioned in the Nintendo Power strategy guide but I don't recall it being expanded on too much so I'd have to dig that out.
In experience, it only appeared when I'd replay the Shadow Queen fight years ago with a save file immediately before her that I'd reset without saving on to keep available, and I didn't think much of it at the time that it was nowhere else in the game.
Neat to have a video though!
I was thinking that the message didn't make sense! I mean, I guess if you know it prevent statuses it would reassure you that your previous status is in effect, but it doesn't convey to the player what it does.
Hey, speaking of the Nintendo power guide, I remember one of the status effects that it mentions being "knocked out" or something of the sort. It basically describes it as taking you back to the title screen, but it never explicitly says it's from reaching 0 HP. It even shows it as having an icon. I've never even been able to make out what that icon looks like, and have always wondered if I was the only one ever mystified by it.
Only got halfway through the video before realising that wasn't a statement (as in, 'this time it failed') but a mistranslation...
I couldn't find the Japanese text, but I assume there probably wasn't a tense included, so 'status hasn't changed'(past) and 'status won't change'(future) looked the same... And maybe nobody knew where to find the line to check.
Japanese sites list the JP status name as "むこうか"(Nullify) instead, which seems much clearer...
@@poolpure272 KO is what happens when an enemy succumbs to showstopper. It’s programmed as a status effect presumably so the devs could easily adjust what enemies are more susceptible to it.
Not sure why it would appear in NP, other than those writers just getting a list of every status effect in the game from the developers without realizing that no enemies in game can inflict KO on Mario, and Mario doesn’t actually see anything when he does it to someone.
Also, I have no idea if Gale Force/Fright Mask are considered KO effects.
@@JoeJoel Huh, I never actually thought to look for that. That answers a longstanding question I've had for quite a while then.
Allergic is a status I have always found super interesting conceptually. It's a shame it's so underused in the game, so I'm glad to see a guide on it!
How cool would it have been for bosses to put this status on mario to avoid buffing strats?
Or being able to inflict it on enemies to prevent them from charging?
It really has a lot of potential.
I literally didn’t even know this status effect existed until the remake which was my 5th time playing the game. Ate a space food on the Moon to see if they updated it to work like in Super Paper Mario but instead got the Allergic effect and didn’t know what it did.
This is so interesting! I've 100%'d this game many times and still don't know everything.. The other day I watched a video with super rare stage events - meteor and bowser statue. Didn't know those one either.
You could bring more videos with curious stuff like this one.
I had both happen to me in the Atomic Boo fight.
@@Wings_Of_Nightfall You are very lucky. I completed the game ~7 times and never saw those events.
Such niche stuff in this game, crazy how little I knew about this
This is such incredibly rare knowledge. Thank you for bestowing it upon us.
I don't think I've ever seen the Allergic Status encountered in game before, I've seen it once or twice in other videos but never have I seen it encountered naturally without some kind of hacks.
Thank you for this little dive into it's potentially, albeit highly impracticable, applications!
it actually popped when the Game Grumps fought the Shadow Queen. I didn't know what that status was until now!
I did not know about it.
Most un-severe "allergy" I've ever seen.
You'd think at least a sneeze would flutter through such a nose as Mario's.
It'd be nice if you could combine space food with some other item to get guaranteed "allergic" effect, so you wouldn't have to rely on RNG. Very interesting video, I really didn't know about this!
This status could have alot more interesting interactions if it weren't so limited by the 50% or a chance on the last boss. Hopefully more devs can add this to their tool belt for more games in the future.
I've gotten inflicted with this by the shadow queen once and never figured out what it did or found another source of it! Thanks for clearing up the confusion, I was so confused.
Koop out here teaching me new stuff about the game nearly 20 years later
This is such a misleading status effect. The fact that it just says “status hasn’t changed.” Hopefully this can clear it up.
I''d write it as "You can't change your status effect!" to clarify what it does.
Wish it would say "Status won't change"
It's probably a mistranslation. It happens.
I've gotten this effect a couple times from Shadow Queen fights. I always assumed that it existed as kind of a softened blow to make the fight easier. Like, the breath attack is guaranteed to give you a status effect, but sometimes it'll give you a status effect that does nothing to help a player struggling with the fight. I never realized it prevented further effects, even positive ones, from taking place.
I once used Power Lift after getting afflicted by it, and nothing happened for Mario.
SAME and I never understood it until NOW
Yep, that’s what it does. I didn’t know what the status effect was called when I fought the Shadow Queen the first time, but now I do. The good thing is, allergic doesn’t take away any positive status effects, such as ones from Power Lift, before you were affected by it.
Neat stuff like this still being found is why we need a proper Paper Mario 3.
Feeling Fine blocks status effects like Poison, Dizziness and some others, but I don't think all of them.
Allergic can be used to avoid getting immobilized by X Yuxes which have a 100% chance of working if you don't guard.
Koop should have put that example because beside the Shadow Queen it's the ONLY Game Over I got in this game (and Hooktail's cheating bite).
TTYD has so many odd little statuses and badges and little interactions that are just way too weak to make use of. And it's not even just because standard peril strats are so strong, even in a slower, more balanced game a lot of them likely wouldn't find much of a use since there's so few ways to actually induce the mechanic(s) in question. Imagine if there was a badge that induced this? Could be kind of neat, like a knock-off Feeling Fine for less BP or something.
Constructing strategies with this status effect is the equivalent of using a rogue deck in Yugioh
Christ alive why does TTYD have this much rare stuff? I played through it only a few months ago and never saw ANY OF THIS stuff now being upload to YT
Not only that, the ingame description of it is terribly Engrish. "Status hasn't changed!" Yeah, of course it hasn't. How about "Status can't change!"
I didn’t know about that item let alone that it causes the allergic effect.
For the longest time I thought this status prevented Mario and company from healing, so I never wanted to use Space Food for that reason xd
I didn’t even know this was rare, I got it from the shadow queen the first time I fought her.
i think some bosses can give you this kinda thing in the remake now, where it describes it as being unable to change status effects
I remember getting affected by this status condition when fighting against the Shadow Queen in the remake, but I actually didn’t know I had been affected by it because I, at the time, didn’t know what its symbol stood for. Now I know.
Koop uploading after all this time is like meeting an old friend
Makes me wonder if there's any other secret effects I'm unaware of
It makes me so happy to still be discovering new stuff about one of my favorite video games all these years later
The text "Status hasn't changed!" must be a translation error. Its probably supposed to say "Status won't change!"
Wow, I always thought it nullified any status you already had for a few turns, rather than preventing you from gaining new ones. I guess the status message wasn't translated correctly.
I just thought about it, in situations where an item that restores AT LEAST 10hp and 5fp are needed for peril or danger loops, you could use Spicy Pasta (10hp 10fp +1attk). I love how many weird and niche use case recipes there are
Being allergic to status change.
The accurate name for it is "equalized" but make sense consider it come from food.
I love quirky stuff like this. What a particular sound effect.
"Balanced", "Resistant", "Immune"? Those might be better names that might better indicate what the status does. Not to mention that terrible "Status hasn't changed!" makes everything even more confusing, lol.
@@Nyanx4 Mis-translation doesn't help anything! I think it is fixed in the remake.
I would suggest "Resilient" or "(Status) Locked".
Thank you for uploading this
Fascinating stuff, really
I feel like the textbox when you get inflicted with Allergic is also badly translated. Probably because who would actually find the status and correct it, right? "Status won't change!" or "Inmune to all status effects!" would be a better description, I believe.
Imagine getting to the bottom of the entire pit and then your space food doesn't give the status
I miss this style of gameplay of Paper Mario. Havent enjoyed any since ttyd
Not even the origami king? That game was pretty good imo.
Thank you for teaching me something new about one of my top 5 favorite games of all time!
Pretty much repeating what a few other comments have said, but the potentiality of Space Food/Allergy being an early, quasi-Feeling Fine item that act as a neutral state, as well as having the added benefit of nullifying elemental stage hazards, is super cool. It just sucks that not only do you get it a remote fashion via completing two different Trouble Center tasks after CH4, it has that 50% chance which pretty much kills any momentum it could've had. At that point, you really are just better off holding off a bit longer for FF, as well as use other items and abilities to mitigate the hazards.
Allergic with a 50/50 activation rate would be a good badge. Any incoming debuffs? Flip a coin and maybe ignore it. But remember that any buffs flip that same coin.
I played this game excessively as a kid, and never encountered this. This is a fascinating video.
i want to see every single breath that bone tail has and what statis is paried with each uniquely colored breath
Bonetail has four different megabreaths, and each has a different status condition. The white one causes sleep, the blue one freezes, the green one causes confusion, and purple shrinks.
@@JZJ7777 thanks
@@kennycarter5682you’re welcome.
If this were Earthbound, half of the enemies would cause this ailment.
I think allergic could be a really cool "buff" if there were more consistent ways to inflict it to yourself or even enemies
another banger video Koop. keep it up :)
WHAT!? I… I never heard of this before! The fuck! Well now I see why, a food item I never use and a possible breath status by the FINAL BOSS OF THE GAME.
It’s also a status that Beldam can inflict in both battles against her, if she uses her No Status attack.
I know nothing about TTYD so its cool to watch all this wacky shit unfold.
Great to see you back.
I feel this would be much more feasible to use IF they had explained that it had it.
"Recovers 5 HP, but may make you immune to buffs and debuffs"
I have actually seen this status during one of my many fights with the shadow queen. Didn't know it's actual effects until today.
I disagree on your opinion of Space Food… Kind of.
The idea of a status effect shield that protects you from things like poison and sleep at the cost of neutralizing buffs sounds awesome!
The problems I have are that: A) Space Food is impossible to get until after you get Zess T. the cookbook and get Dried Bouquets from what’s his name in Petalburg. And B) The game goes into little detail about the allergic status even when it actually pops up.
If people understood it more, and we got access to Space Food around Chapter 4, it would have some enemy encounters a lot easier. Namely Craziee Dayzees and all the ice enemies on the path to Fahr Outpost. Those stun locking bastards can eat a dick.
There's a lot of food in general that makes me feel like the Zess T cookbook should've been no later than mid chapter 3, post-Chapter 4 is way too late in the game for some of those combo items to first be possible
I agree that a shield against negative status effects is awesome, but Allergic also shields against positive status effects, like attack and defense boosts, which isn’t so awesome.
@@JZJ7777
I feel like that’s just a downside you’d have to work around. The allergic status doesn’t cleanse or remove anything you’ve already had applied, so if you use Power Lift or charge before eating the space food, you’ll be fine.
@@rodrickgoldberg2324 yeah, I think I realized this after I made this comment since I used Power Lift during my last battle against the Shadow Queen before she inflicted Allergic on me with her breath attack, and, yeah, the attack and defense boost stayed.
I had no idea this was a thing 💀
I think it would be better if this effect lasted more turns and had a 60% chance to do something like Pokemon's "flinch" effect, wherein you aren't damaged, but you kind of convulse, sticking you in place and making you skip your turn. If Rally Wink is up, this will only affect the turn it activates on.
Rather than status "hasn't changed", maybe they should've translated it that status "won't change".
I've played this game for years and never knew that was a thing lmao, sick video
Honestly? I'd much rather just use the Feeling Fine badges.
I see that you've been cooking while you were away
Holy crap, I remember that ineffective effect (what happens in the first round) after eating this, but not thinking anything of it!
love your vids, never stop
I've finished this game like 20 times and its the first time I hear about this. WTF
I had this effect before and just, assumed it was paralysis but...huh
To know what this actually is and why, I kinda like it. But if only it worked in cases I needed it to work
This further proves that the first two Paper Mario games are the best Paper Mario games of all time. All these years later and I'm still finding out strategies and things in the game that I've never even heard of or considered. I'm amazed that people are still putting out new technical videos and new glitch and speedrun strategy videos.
Can't wait until Mario gets the "Xenophobic" status effect that makes him unable to use his partner
I wish this was maybe slightly more common but I really wish the "Slow" status effect came up a little more. It's got to be the rarest one. It has insane potential and 99% of players don't know it exists.
Imagine if you could use space food _on the enemy_. Prevent Shadow Queen charging, and all that.
I always wondered what the 🚫 effect was. This is so cool
Space food deadass looks like butter
Amazing video!
Allergic Status??? I never knew about this...
When I saw this status while playing Hero Mode I totally thought it was something new added for the mod.
I remember getting this during the shadow queen fight I was confused
I know! I got this effect against her in the remake and had no idea what it was either. I didn’t read the status effect when I was inflicted with it, so I was confused. It’s a good thing I didn’t use something that would inflict a status condition on me, such as Power Lift, or otherwise I would’ve been even more confused.
ough. I finally found someone to fill the void left by stryder7x
Interesting, I never knew about this. Good vid