Linux Gaming Showdown: Debian vs. Arch
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video, we will pit Debian 12 vs. Arch in a set of gaming benchmarks. All tests were performed on the same hardware. I ran the Arch benchmarks first, followed by Debian. Watch to find out which distro came out on top!
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i recently bought an 8840hs asus and was really looking forward to something like this! thanks bud!
One aspect you might overlook and I've run into this twice now. With World of Tanks and Day of Defeat: Source. Newer packages and libraries in Arch can break games. The older packages in Debain can make certain games more stable, and by the time Debian upgrades to the problem package, the bug will most likely be worked out already.
thanks bud. i recently bought an 8840hs asus and was really looking forward to a recent video like this.
Awesome! I hope it helps.
I've use Linux for 15 years now and solely use Debian for the last five. My current machine is a 11th Gen Intel i7, Radeon RX 6700-XT with 16GB 3200Mhz RAM. Both the O/S and Steam gaming drives are Gen 4 Nvme M.2.
This runs Debian 12.5 on Xfce, Kernel: 6.7.12+bpo-amd64, Mesa 22.3.6 and latest Linux Steam version: 1718751621 dpkg package. Runs flawlessly and I get the same FPS in many games as my friends PC which is the same spec but on Windows 11.
That's awesome to hear! I actually just upgraded to that card (well, close enough, 6750xt)!
@@Community-Compute Good card. I found it's best to stick to Radeon for less hassle and only use hardware a generation or two behind with Debian.
Flatpak have improved these days but at one time, I use to find not all the packages where kept up to date like VLC or Gimp. Think that's changed now but I personally only use dpkg packages either from the Debian repositories or from source.
Fine video. but it hurts my eyes that you didn't fullscreen the presentation 😅
Also we couldn't see the debian results of tomb raider because it was behind your camera feed.
But other that that, great 👍
I'm on Manjaro, and my gaming performance is solid.
Whoops 🤣. I'll share the whole thing next time! Thanks!
@@Community-Compute 👍
I would be interested to see how this would have shaken out if you used the native install of Steam on Debian
Yeah, good question. I think it might have been slightly worse at this point (about a year after Debian 12's release), with the potential to get worse as more time passes. With older hardware though, I do wonder how much of a difference it would make. I plan to run the tests again on newer hardware. Maybe I'll use your suggestion and install Steam via apt!
My soul doesn't know where it's going right now. I use AVL MXe for music production and cachyOS for rendering. I'm completely crazy about them. Debian is unbreakable and Arch is versatile, so my soul found NitruxOS and started to catch fire. I have no peace!
I'll have to look into NitruxOS - this is the first time I've heard of it!
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Before watching: shouldn't they be neck to neck?
After watching: have you considered flatpak's resource consumption could be why debian always around 1 fps lower?
Yeah, that could be it, especially on the older hardware I used. Close enough for me!
You join the fact I spoke in your last video. You need more recent Mesa, and not only . Also you are CPU bottleneck so, your benchmark is not representative of the reality.
The only thing we can see is that the flatpak container drop some performances and it's a fact.
If you want to bench, you need to compare with debian package.
The reality is that between mesa 24 and Mesa 22 you have +/- 5% up Fps and also in the 1% low, which is the one that interest Us. If 1% are too low, you will jave stutter and a bad gaming experience even if you have 90fps average.
And also, you have an AMD gpu, and it's an other story with Nvidia that provides his own mesa vulkan and dri driver.
It also depends on how it is seted up by the distro (early loading etc..) but dame nvidia driver = same performances on STOCK kernel (arch and debian)
However, using TKG kernel, you jave less average FPS, but more 1% FPS, so your game is smoother.
I recommend you to watch the videos of A1RM4X.
Bye bye 👋
I appreciate you taking the time to comment. I did mention most of your points as considerations near the end of my video. And why not use Flatpak, if it's easy and available?
The point was not to prove or even insinuate that Debian is the best distro for gaming, merely that it's viable -- and I think it is. Given its many other advantages, I'm more than happy to game on Debian.
Thanks for watching!
The flatpak version of Steam includes the latest mesa drivers....so...the results we see in the video are pretty much the same.
@@delf0s5781 yep! That was the point I was trying to make. Very similar results, with all the stability of Debian!
Flatpak os slower itself @@delf0s5781