just found out there are 3 dots next to the comment and whne i click on them wHIle Holding "shift" it GIves you option to report this comment for misinformation
Wayland Vector graphics Cursor subsystem already near finished and in testing, maybe even fully working, but now people need to start making cursors in vector drawing programs like the wicked cool Inkscape, and I'm sure many will be available in the near future. You can do crap loads of stuff in and with Linux you would never even explore in Windows because it could cost you a small fortune, and you have full control over every aspect, so if a pixilated cursor is a deal breaker, then you don't deserve Linux anyhow!
@@Bob-of-Zoid The original comment was just appreciating the little detail of the bouncing application icon next to your cursor when you open an application (5:20). I don't think it was meant in a negative way. Anyways, currently Windows uses raster cursors, and so does Linux for the most part (the difference is that we know of work being done on the Linux side, as you said). But in the end, cursors just need to work.
@@Krissssz I know, the last sentence was more of a pun. I mean 1, I can't see it as enough to go back to Windows🤮, nor 2 is it noticeable unless sized up quite a bit which is only on when you "shake" the cursor to see it better.
This was one of the most enjoyable Linux videos I have seen in a minute. It really brought me back to the good ol days when all of these were new things for me. I even learned some things! Kudos on your detailed explanation style while keeping it entertaining.
I have an Arch/hyprland machine and a Fedora/KDE machine. I really got a kick out of watching you stumble around KDE and Arch at the same time. Not only was it fun to watch you discover things in more or less the same way I did, but I also learned a few things from your spastic speed run of KDE settings that I never even thought to look for. Your 'gas pedal to the floor' recording and editing mode is fantastic.
I like how you actually try to read and understand stuff and find out how to do things. Of course you counter some stumbling blocks but this was such a pleasant and humorous video :D
All jokes aside, this is one of the most informative videos regarding kde plasma I've seen so far, normally people just do the basics without the exploration and it sucks ! Even though I've been using kde for almost a year now, I actually learned something that'll change the way I use my desktop. After I've seen this, I feel like I hate myself for not exploring what plasma have to offer. You've just earned another sub ! Hope many more people see this vid, no matter whether they are Linux beginners or more advanced users, there's always more to learn !
Two big issues you've run into are 1) you didn't enable the multilib in the Pacman repository which is why you kept getting an error installing steam and other apps. 2) you installed the bare minimum Kde package which has a lot of things pre-installed such as spectical completely missing, the default Kde screen shot program. You're actually missing so many defaults because of this.
GREAT content man. Love your sense of humor and determination to troubleshoot issues. Had me DYING with the damn banana cursor and I look forward to future videos!
@@bogxd I think the reason you weren’t able to install Steam, the calculator, or Spotify through pacman was because you didn’t enable the multilib repository in your pacman.conf, which has most of pacman’s packages but is disabled by default
Some points I'd like to highlight: - Screenshot apps don't work correctly in KDE 6 because KDE 6 is still in Beta (or Alpha?). I had the same problem without any display scaling. - You couldn't uninstall "calculator" because the package name was "gnome-calculator", but the display name was "Calculator". You can think of it the Windows way, kinda: "Steam" is the display name you see in the start menu, but the actual program behind it is "steam.exe". Same thing, different way way of doing it. - Your mouse cursor changed between apps because not all Linux apps are built the same. You're currently on KDE, but there are a bunch more desktops, like Cinnamon (the one you used with Linux Mint). Cinnamon is based on the GNOME desktop, and uses a GNOME engine behind the scenes to draw stuff on the screen. That engine also has its own (or uses some) theming engine, which only works for GNOME-based apps. KDE's and GNOME's theming engine(s) are practically incompatible with each other, which is why some apps might seem out of place and behave differently than "native KDE apps". In the case of the Calculator, the app just forced the GNOME theming onto your KDE desktop, so to speak. Not all GNOME apps force their themes onto KDE and the same goes vice versa. The Calculator app probably did because it was a Flatpak application, which is probably worth another exploration video of its own. But the point is that Flatpak apps come with the theme the developer (or Flatpak maintainer) wants the application to have. So if the Flatpak app is a GNOME-based one, it will force a GNOME theme onto it (libadwaita), if it's a KDE app, it will force a KDE theme onto it. The whole theming thing is a discussion that has been going on for ages now. GNOME says "there's only one theme 'ecosystem' and that's libadwaita". KDE says "I don't care which app uses which theme, I'll just draw whatever the user set and whatever the application allows". Other desktops mainly go the KDE way, GNOME is kind of an outlier in this regard. What GNOME does makes sense if you take a step back and reiterate over your experience with the Calculator app, for example. The way the GNOME theme is forced means "all apps look and behave the same" (at least that's the goal). Compare that to Windows and its 10 different ways of theming. You have "legacy/classic" themes (Windows 95 through 2000), "Aero" themes (Windows Vista/7/8) and "UWP" themes (starting from Windows 10). The good thing is that Microsoft wants to innovate and use their new stuff. The bad thing is, they can't completely change the UI of Windows because that would basically drive all sysadmins of all companies in the industry insane. This is why Windows has like 100 themes built into it and every application looks different, but at the same time legacy applications like the Control Panel still have to remain to please the industry so to speak. Granted, the state Windows currently is in is worse than if they just never listened to anybody in the industry and forced UWP onto everything - but then again, nobody would update Windows (Servers) anymore and would eventually move away from it. GNOME does it much better in my opinion, in this regard. But GNOME doesn't do users any favors because Linux users want to customize their desktop, and GNOME limits this freedom a whole lot. With Arch and KDE you've basically opened the door to basically the most freedom you can get with Linux as an ecosystem. That's a very good thing, but it can really feel weird to new users who don't understand the different desktops, theming engines/ecosystems, Flatpaks, and whatever else have you.
KDE Plasma 6.0 official has been out and running on my computer for months, and I upgraded to 6.1 a few days ago, and I had no issues whatsoever with the screen shot app! Many of the scaling issues had to do with Wayland and NVIDIA drivers, none of which KDE makes, and all that is also fixed! Did you just wake up from a 6 month coma?
@@Bob-of-Zoid what?! I used Arch a couple weeks ago with KDE 6 (don't know if it was 6.0 or 6.1). And I had that issue with taking screenshots (at least with Wayland). Googled it up and lots of other people also had this issue. Not sure what you're talking about. I also specifically said that it's NOT a display scaling issue.
@@Bob-of-Zoid also also he's running KDE 6.0, not 6.1 in this video. So your point about not having any issues taking screenshots with 6.1 is misleading and adds nothing to the discussion.
@@Bob-of-Zoid also also also according to the official KDE release schedule, 6.0.80 was "Alpha", 6.0.90 was "Beta" and 6.1.x is "Release". Meaning 6.1 is out of Alpha/Beta status and should not have any of the issues described in this video and/or my comment whatsoever in the first place. Making your comment irrelevant again and again.
Honestly i think you should keep this series going, i love the raw view of a newcomer to linux I think it would be interesting to redo this exact video, but do it with someone that is experienced with linux right there to assist you as you're going through the same checklist
Generally you want to get KDE applications whenever possible, so Gwenview for image viewing, Okular for PDF, Spectacle for screenshot, … Arch allows you to do a minimal install. Other KDE distros include all of these by default.
ngl, it's kinda cute to see the next generation find all the compositing effects like wobbly windows that have been a thing for as long as I can remember and at least as long as I've been using linux professionally(which is.. a long time.. It's like almost 2 decades and now I feel old)
Funnily enough, I had a practical use for Wobbly Windows back in the Compiz days: I set the system bell to wobble the focused window instead of beeping. (But I am biased, as someone who turns off all system sounds and prefers visual indicators.)
This fella is somehow a breath of fresh air for me. I've watched all the videos in their whole Linux saga, and they're all like half-an-hour long videos and yet.. I didn't skip one bit.. that's new.. How do you do this?! Excited for more :3
Arch Linux with KDE Plasma is the ultimate Swiss army knife of computing! I have been using them exclusively on all of my computers for over a decade now, because so far just nothing compares or comes close. You showed me nothing new, and yet I loved every minute of it! Your narration style, especilly your sense of humor and the sound effects are well woth watching. Oh, and you could have used EndeavourOS to install Arch with one of many desktops but via a great installer. It comes with a selection of basic apps, and once installed which is wicked quick, you have all of the harder work behind you the easy way. One more thing: A lot of what you said was great about Linux is Plasma specific and in few if any other DE's, and why it's such a freaking great Desktop Environment. The only thing Gnome is good for is kicking out of the flower bed, down the driveway, onto the street, and watching cars run it over!
The reason why you kept getting "MANUAL INTERVENTION REQUIRED" notification is most likely because you never did a system wide update. I assume the problem specifically would be solved by package database refreshing that would happen durring such an update. In simple terms your PC had an old reference to the AUR databases, meaning outdated, meaning "yay" was very confused when trying to call out to the out of date AUR repositories. The command for arch based distros is "sudo pacman -Syu". -S flag stands for "sync", it is the flag that actually allows you to grab, download, a package from AUR or any other repository or source. Not to be confused with lowercase -s flag which stands for "search". It can be used or example in "sudo pacman -Ss " to search for a package that contains a specific term in, for exmple, it's description. -y flag is the one that ensures that you're up to date with actual repositories you are trying to download a package from" -u flag is simply a system-wide update of all pacakages installed through pacman NOTE: The exact same syntax applies for "yay" but do also note that "pacman" and "yay" are different tools that need to be updated separtly.
The AUR and the official arch repos are different things... Also yay is just a wrapper for pacman with added functionality of being able to install AUR packages seamlessly.
Nice video again! Notes and tips (I'll probably be less useful this time because I don't use KDE, display scaling, or play that game you do): 1. **KDE Settings:** KDE's settings does give you the options to configure lots of stuff, but it will only work on KDE apps (that integrate the libraries and stuff that link it in to the KDE settings and other KDE system features). This is why you cannot rebind Firefox keys in the KDE settings menu--it isn't developed by KDE (so it isn't built to integrate with it). Ultimately it depends on the program you are using how or if you can bind the shortcuts. Programs that support/are made for Linux are generally better in this regard because the community tends to care more about it. In general programs (if they can be set) will be setup through a program and/or a config file that you can edit to make it work how you want. 2. Yeah the middle click thing is because there are multiple clipboard selections. The normal clipboard one you access with copy and paste and one called primary selection. It can be nice sometimes and some programs can use it to automatically do things when you select text instead of needing to copy and paste stuff. Pretty niche though so not many people actually know about/use it. 3. The weird purple line under the task bar is probably a compositing artifact. I don't use it so don't know what exactly you might try to fix it but you can probably search or report it as a bug and someone can probably help you. 4. Steam was not there in pacman because it is in a different repository that is disabled by default called multilib (it mentions this on the Arch wiki page you were on). Instructions for enabling it can also be found there. As a side note the multlib repository is basically just for 32bit versions of software and some programs like Wine and Steam that have stuff requiring/running them. I think it is disabled by default because there might be 32 and 64 bit versions of some software so they want to make it harder to accidentally install the 32 bit version when you are on a 64 bit computer (just a guess). 5. **Uninstalling and how pacman works** I generally use -Rs to uninstall stuff. With VLC it was failing because VLC is used (is a dependency for) something else on the system. Fortunately for many users pacman will (unless you really force things) not run transactions (i.e. installs or uninstalls) that will leave something on your system broken because they are missing a (known) required dependency. ** In your case the message was saying it can't remove VLC because 'VLC' is listed as a required dependency of phonon-qt6-vlc (or something didn't read it lol). It won't remove VLC because phonon-qt6-vlc is still installed and needs VLC to work. To get VLC to uninstall, you should generally just list both the thing you are trying to uninstall and any of the things that it is saying it will break (the things that depend on it).** E.g. if you are trying to uninstall package a and it says you can't because a is a required dependency of package b, then just do `pacman -Rs a b` so they are removed in the same transaction. If you really know what you are doing there are ways to make it cascade uninstall all the things that depend on anything you tell it to uninstall, but this could easily mess things up badly if you try it on the wrong thing so it is generally safer to avoid it. 6. **Calculator not showing up--pacman continued**: the display name of a program--especially the generic one like Calculator, Web Browser, or File Manager (and sometimes even the name of an executable)--is not necessarily the same as the package name. In your case I think it is likely kcalc or kalc (remember that there are lots of calculators in the repository and they all need to have unique names so they can't all be 'calculator'). **How to figure out a package name using pacman** You could figure it out in lots of ways and some times it may be hard especially with really big wierd pacakages, but most of the time you can figure it out by searching the installed applications. Just use `pacman -Qs ` or in your specific case `pacman -Qs calc` or something and it searches for programs with calc (case insensitive) in both the name or description and you would be able to see what the name of the calculator you have installed is. Btw the mnemonic for that command is Q[uery installed packages)] s[earch]. While we are here -Qi (info) is another useful one that gives the detials of a specific package instead of searching. The i and s options work on the -S version too just searching in all the apps in the repositories instead of just the ones on your computer. You can always look up more options and stuff in the man page or on the Wiki. 7. **Making your life in the shell easy by using fish as your shell** the command line might be hard to learn and remember as you are getting started. I suggest you try installing fish and setting it as the shell run in your terminal (should be in the settings for the default one or can be set in a config file for alacritty. For basic stuff it is really great because you get nice tab completions by default for most common programs that normally come with little descriptions of what they mean/do. So you can for instance type `pacman -` and then press tab and it will show you all the options (both the long and short versions) and what they do. See their website (fishshell.com) for more info and a very good manual (which can also be accessed in the browser directly from the shell when you use the `help` command. Also, I bet you would like the fish_config command which opens a special (locally hosted don't worry lol) web interface that lets you customize the prompt and other stuff very easily with a GUI. It is really very nice and I highly recommend it. Most of the stuff that works in bash or zsh works in fish, but some things that have kinda odd syntax in those (because of compatibility). It is really just better in most ways for interactive use and scripts that you don't need to be able to run on any random computer. 8. tessdata is a thing for tesseract which is an OCR (optical character recognition) thing. Choosing a provider on that thing was just selecting what languages you want the OCR for. It is used by mupdf (and other things) to let you copy text from PDF's when they are just images (without the text data embedded as well). 9. When you look for applications to do basic tasks a nice source is the Arch Wiki (yes of course it is lol). wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications In your case with an image viewer, you would go to the multimedia category and into Image viewers, in the category of graphical ones (as opposed to terminal or frame buffer ones) and you would have a whole list of them with the package name, a short description, and links to the website if you wanna see what it looks like before installing it. **I would generally recommend only using the AUR when you don't have any good options in the normal repos** because it is more of a hassle and as you saw can have mixed results if you are just trying all sorts of random stuff. Use it when you already know you want a specific package and it is not available in other ways. Also you can use `-Ss` (in pacman or yay) to search for things like image viewers directly. 10. Btw you are missing many default KDE apps. A lot more things would have been possible out of the box if you installed the kde-applications group (pacman -S kde-applications). Note there are tons of apps for all sorts of stuff in here so if you don't want everything, you can just install specific ones or sub-groups like kde-utilities or kde-graphics. 11. Quick AUR tips: the -git versions are generally compiled on your machine directly from the current version on the repo. The bin ones are precompiled versions (normally what I would try first unless I have a reason to compile it) if it doesn't have -git or -bin it can be either. The diff option shows changes between the current version you have installed and the version you are installing. Again try the normal repos first. 12. AUR manual intervention: I don't have much time and can't really read the logs so I can't say super confidently, but the divinci resolve one has an error with the mv command not being able to access a file in the .cache dir maybe a permission problem or something. Also it could just be a broken package so you would definitely need to trouble shoot a bit to figure out what is going on. I don't think I have ever had that problem lol. 13. Also just preemptive tip, remember to update (pacman -Syu) often it will prevent lots of problems. (Note that AUR stuff needs to be updated seperately). I can't go into all the stuff about the AUR now but really try to only use it when necessary (at least until you are a bit more experienced) because it can make things more complicated easily. Hope these are helpful.
@@bogxd you can also see the dependency tree using the pactree command found in the pacman-contrib package like this: pactree -r vlc vlc └─phonon-qt6-vlc └─phonon-qt6 ├─dolphin │ └─dolphin-plugins ├─dragon ... For vlc in particular you will see that it's a dependency for plasma-workspace, the kde shell, so you can't remove it at all while using kde.
@@uis246i think gentoo is harder since it requires compiling and using things like useflags and knowing some info for the compiler but i am also a arch user for like 3 years thats only tried gentoo twice. So idk
btw, if you freshly install any linux, it's best practice to update it (same as on windows). on arch, this is sudo pacman -Syu while on mint it's sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade this is probably why you didn't "find the packages", because the information that these packages exist needs to be downloaded with that command
"I'm spending way too much time in these settings" Perfectly describes KDE Plasma (in a good way). Grid View _used_ to put the desktops in a dynamic grid in Plasma 5, but with Plasma 6 they merged it and overview and kinda left grid view out. Definitely one of the features I desperately want back in 6.
Seven minutes and 56 seconds into the video and my head is spinning... I use KDE since 1999 on and off, apart from the theme, font, disable effects and adjust pointer acceleration, do not change anything else. Some things here I didn't even know existed. Long term Mint user here currently testing Manjaro with Plasma 6. Great fun to watch!!
FYI for anyone looking to get into Arch with KDE Plasma like this, you can skip the rough install if that's not your thing by just installing EndeavourOS. If you use the BTRFS file system and install snapper, your system will be almost bulletproof.
I've been using EndeavorOS for 6 months now and it's 100% worth it, used to run Arch raw before but there's like no upside in that for me, I still get to tweak and configure to my hearts contempt but it's way simpler to install haha
If you forget to use sudo you can always use the command "sudo !!". The "!" invokes your bash history of which you could specify a number such as "!42" and it will use the command at line 42 in your history. The second ! will use your last command run. Very useful and I find myself using quite regularly.
The reason your sensitivity changes based on the resolution you set is because mouse sensitivity is measured in dots per inch (I call it pixels per inch) so if you are at 800 dpi every inch you move your mouse your mouse cursor will move 800 pixels. That means if you have a lower resolution, the cursor will move a larger percentage of the screen if you move your mouse the same distance both times.
I really enjoy your OS review content and have become addicted to it recently. trying to add the following techniques: 1. File transfer from PC to hard disk, hard disk to PC, and PC to mobile, 2. OS boot speed improvement, and 3. OS disk occupied space. Thank you!
In my opinion Gnome is better, but I definitely see why KDE rocks. I love KDE myself too but just prefer a priced Gnome for daily work! I love KDE's customizability but I feel Gnome is neater, more uniform, just as easilbly be customized. and easier to write GUIs for. I am open to anything the awesome folks developing KDE have to offer.
@@abinaash8453 I guess you could argue one is better than the other depending on the person/type of use? But an overall KDE is better imo. A lot of customization or no customization, both are usable. No custom, looks just like windows (kinda). Custom looks however you want it to look (kinda). Gnome does not have bars for certain programs, and has theming and stuff not baked in (as far as I know or my understanding, mind you). Amongst other things. The workflow for me is not good and it's confusing for some reason. But like I said, different strokes for different folks. (In my OC i was just messing)
@@LautaroQ2812 Gnome has extensions which allow you to customize your desktop. It does not have as much as kde, but it still has customization. There are extensions that allow you to install themes
21:15 you installed a calculator package that is meant for gnome package managers are agnostic when it comes to software it doesnt care what desktop enviroment you use so keep in mind you install stuff specific to KDE and not gnome or vice versa on gnome a way to know which application is for what a general hint would be: KDE is made on the Qte framework Gnome is made on the Gtk framework so pick Qte specific applications on kde, you can install GTK instead but as you saw you had dependancies issues installing mirage because you arent on gnome where most of those dependancies are on to top it off you get the kinds of visual inconsistencies like the calculator application
This is SO good information when developing a user experience. It is basically user testing on steroids. I assume that KDE doesn't have the resources to do this kind of testing (it doesn't feel like it, at least), so this is amazing material!
As a long term Gnome user who jumped to WMs without trying KDE, now I see what's the hype is about. Currently at 17 mins marks of a 34min video and bro is still exploring KDE Settings. Great job KDE team.
@@Raspredval1337 Oh I was reading this as a positive note, that Plasma has that amount of configuration options. But that's because I like it myself. GNOME however has a small advantage in simplicity. By having less features you have a quicker overview of everything. The issue that it has is that it still has to solve a couple of fundamental shortcomings in my opinion. This is mostly about things like the unfriendliness of the custom keybindings configuration and the huge limitation that it still does not have proper fractional scaling, which is a real problem on high DPI displays. Plasma does not have those issues.
You unironically did a better job at making Linux seem aproachable than every single Linux content creator i have ever watched (and i've seen them all, even the ones that are super friendly and patient...sadly they don't realize how much they know and how far above the casual noob it is).
About 8:10: The desktops are all in one line, because you can have multiple rows of virtual desktops in Plasma. In the settings for virtual desktops on the top right, you can set how many rows you want, so you can have one virtual desktop below/above another.
Great video, but please try and use official KDE applications, it hurts me. 😭 Also you can fix the Steam issue by enabling the Multilib repository. Many of the packages you installed can be found in normal repositories too.
I don't know English that well, but I understand you better than others. And your emotions. You're a top. I suggest you to try the tile window managers, more precisely hyprland. ))))
You should! Probably not something like arch, as it can be a little unstable at times if you don't know what you are doing. I recommend mint, but view a lot of the comments from the mint video for mistakes and solutions to those mistakes. You can look up guides online but make sure you know what you are pasting in does. I used to do it to look up package names, since they are sometimes confusing. From the day you start, I'd recommend looking up some NixOS guides (even if you dont end up using the system, you can use it in a virtual machine for a while, just like how Bog did for arch), since for me, that seems like the best thing. If something breaks, you can easily roll back. Everything is just a single config file, so you can move it between systems. You can choose between stable and unstable/fast packages. (like mint, slower but more stable, for nix this is 6 months, for mint i think it's every major release, or like arch, fast but more buggy sometimes.)
Might want to make a note or something that this is about the experience of _using_ the OS and rather than that of Installing it. I was completely convinced this was a reupload for view harvesting at first, especially given both videos have the same length and very similar intros.
This video is a good metaphor for the Linux experience of everyone I know who has tried to use Linux: there's hours of fun to be had messing around with settings, but ultimately, nothing of substance actually gets done.
Fun facts: Linux desktops had workspaces *long* before I ever saw them appear on Windows, including the silly workspace switching cube if you wanted it. I remember using and loving these since (2008?). Windows didn't get workspace/desktop switching as a default feature until Windows 10 if I'm not mistaken. Back in the late 00s there were a lot of features in basic Linux desktops that were genuinely impressive and innovative even besides the customizability.
I think your KDE Plasma installation is incomplete. But for a new user, you're doing really good (and good mistakes :D) and your videos and humor are great. KDE Plasma default screenshot utility : spectacle KDE Plasma default PDF viewer : okular KDE Plasma default image viewer : Gwenview Personal opinion : avoid AUR when you can, use it only if required. For Gaming you have something like CachyOS which is an Archlinux easier to install and gaming oriented. (I don't game on Linux, I'm a console gamer)
The changing cursor was probably due to a (bug) when opening GTK apps inside KDE Plasma. Calculator and Flameshot are both GTK apps, IIRC For the best experience, you'll want to use apps from the same UI toolkit, i.e. QT apps when using KDE and GTK apps while on gnome (and derivative desktop environments)
19:25 If you didnt know you can have multiple panels. If you really wanted to you could fill up your entire desktop with task bars or have a different panel for different things like a widget bar. Really neat all the things you can do with KDE. IMO KDE is the best desktop environment.
ummm so at 5:50 onwards u never showed ur IP address btw. Ur IP Address is nowhere to be seen at all so i dont know why u closed out of it so quickly. if its the hostname ur talking about about thats just ur main PC that your using for the Virtual Machine. Nowhere on any settings does it have an IP Address, if anything it would be the IP Address of the computer itself not ur actual location IP Address.
12:15 "im spending way to long in these settings" ..... wellcome to KDE & KWin we hope you enjoy your stay it's good to have you with us even if it's just for the day.
yes but I think he installed plasma-desktop meta-package, which came with almost no additional apps preinstalled.... anyway he should update all the pavkages with pacman -Syu, and try to install plasma apps like spectacle for screenshots o gwenview as image viewer
@@shagof He a avoided software center at all costs, which is bad. It shows how the community represents to outsiders, so they think using gui solution is bad, degrading, or inferior.
@@JacksonNick-j6i being the "well ackshually", not recomending the gui is more because... there are many guis, so you can't really give someone good advice on how to do something if for example they are on discover and you only use gnome software, or whatever cinnamon uses, so in general giving terminal commands is more universal
@@JacksonNick-j6i Why is it bad? Also their is a difference between flatpacks and what you get from pacman/aur. Even without that, the command line is useful as well, why would it be bad for him to use it?
For screenshots, you just had to press Print Screen. Plasma already has a screenshot app. The reason your cursor is different is because the app you were running was a Gnome app, which has minor compatibility issues with the cursor
Just found out that holding shift while pressing the like button gives you a cool animation
_cries in mobile_
liar !!!!!!?!?!?!?!!?![pf[pqoefoiavbs]qwvinw]vinaevio"
you lied to us
@@gusta9754 correct
just found out there are 3 dots next to the comment and whne i click on them wHIle Holding "shift" it GIves you option to report this comment for misinformation
"I'm spending way too much time in the seetings".
Welcome to KDE
Welcome to hyprland
As a KDE and Hyprland users,
it's so cool to be able to change everything though
Me in every OS lmao
wait until he find about windows managers.
Yes, the desktop environment that goes:
Me: What can I customize in the desktop?
KDE: Yes
"Pixelated icon bounces on cursor"
I am sold
something-something they should switch to hyprcursor, because xcursos is just outdated.
Wayland Vector graphics Cursor subsystem already near finished and in testing, maybe even fully working, but now people need to start making cursors in vector drawing programs like the wicked cool Inkscape, and I'm sure many will be available in the near future.
You can do crap loads of stuff in and with Linux you would never even explore in Windows because it could cost you a small fortune, and you have full control over every aspect, so if a pixilated cursor is a deal breaker, then you don't deserve Linux anyhow!
@@Bob-of-Zoid The original comment was just appreciating the little detail of the bouncing application icon next to your cursor when you open an application (5:20). I don't think it was meant in a negative way.
Anyways, currently Windows uses raster cursors, and so does Linux for the most part (the difference is that we know of work being done on the Linux side, as you said). But in the end, cursors just need to work.
@@Krissssz I know, the last sentence was more of a pun. I mean 1, I can't see it as enough to go back to Windows🤮, nor 2 is it noticeable unless sized up quite a bit which is only on when you "shake" the cursor to see it better.
PIXELATED ICON BOUNCED ON MY CURSOR (GOT UGLY 🤯)
The next step is to include "i use arch btw" in every sentence you say and you've become a true arch user
:_skull:
💀
never doing that if i become a arch user
@@king111official I am a arch user and I never say that I am a arch user
@@Mimi-py8mfno u aint then
This was one of the most enjoyable Linux videos I have seen in a minute. It really brought me back to the good ol days when all of these were new things for me. I even learned some things! Kudos on your detailed explanation style while keeping it entertaining.
Cheers!
drag windows from... tit? ok
XD
bro I am obsessed with your videos already watched all of them , you're a youtube genius dude keep going man , you deserve it bro
Correct title: The KDE experience
The KDE experience: Extreme bloat
@@markwilson3326tell me you use Arch without telling me you use Arch btw
@@markwilson3326 *The GNOME experience: Extreme bloat
@@markwilson3326 And even with all the "bloat" it still uses less RAM than GNOME.
kde seems really beautiful, im a beginner at linux so should i switch to KDE Plasma 3 arch?
I've never been so entertained from a simple distro review
its more of a kde review, he didnt tinker with arch almost at all
kinda misleading tbh
@@dxcvvxd🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@dxcvvxd tbh he doesn't know the difference, most people don't know the different. and tbh (2) most people don't care.
@@RazorMureithi i think people should care otherwise why would you use linux
you should at least have some general knowledge about what you're running
@@dxcvvxd it's endeavor OS it doesn't require tinkering
Kowalski is now an official mascot of arch for me.
Same
Linux, but mildly unhinged
Xenia is the best
Squid girl :(
@@LamaSlayer4622 gay trans furry is not a mascot, it's the people who use linux
I have an Arch/hyprland machine and a Fedora/KDE machine. I really got a kick out of watching you stumble around KDE and Arch at the same time. Not only was it fun to watch you discover things in more or less the same way I did, but I also learned a few things from your spastic speed run of KDE settings that I never even thought to look for. Your 'gas pedal to the floor' recording and editing mode is fantastic.
I like how you actually try to read and understand stuff and find out how to do things. Of course you counter some stumbling blocks but this was such a pleasant and humorous video :D
All jokes aside, this is one of the most informative videos regarding kde plasma I've seen so far, normally people just do the basics without the exploration and it sucks ! Even though I've been using kde for almost a year now, I actually learned something that'll change the way I use my desktop. After I've seen this, I feel like I hate myself for not exploring what plasma have to offer. You've just earned another sub ! Hope many more people see this vid, no matter whether they are Linux beginners or more advanced users, there's always more to learn !
You now legally need to tell everyone you know that you use Arch Linux.
Edit: Please stop commenting I use Arch btw.
i use arch btw
I use arch btw
i use arch btw
i use windows btw
I use Arch, btw.
Two big issues you've run into are 1) you didn't enable the multilib in the Pacman repository which is why you kept getting an error installing steam and other apps. 2) you installed the bare minimum Kde package which has a lot of things pre-installed such as spectical completely missing, the default Kde screen shot program. You're actually missing so many defaults because of this.
As gar as i remember, there isn't a non-minimal kde package, you have plasma and kde-apps, and he simply didn't install kde-apps
@@Adiee5Priv There is a meta package for all of the kde stuff. Same as with GNOME.
plasma-meta (big) and plasma-desktop (smol)
You have option Full Kde install or Basic Kde
@@dampintellect plasma-meta isn't as big as you think
GREAT content man. Love your sense of humor and determination to troubleshoot issues. Had me DYING with the damn banana cursor and I look forward to future videos!
1:05 close call, one wrong click and this video would've never been made
I have heard of people trapped in vim before, it's a fairy tale to get kids to learn to fear vim
What do you mean? I don't know enough about Linux/computers to understand, sorry 😭
@@mysteriousluckVIm is a meme in the linux community as often new users get stuck not knowing how Exit from it
Because you can't exit vim@@mysteriousluck
@@mysteriousluck can't exit vim joke
this guy changes his OS every week. that's a top-tier content there
It's called distrohopping. All of us have it at some point
@@unicorn_tamer and I cant quit hopping :(
Hoppetitus we call that.
0:43 ah yes.. my favorite package manager, sudo
lol, didn't even see that
@@bogxd I think the reason you weren’t able to install Steam, the calculator, or Spotify through pacman was because you didn’t enable the multilib repository in your pacman.conf, which has most of pacman’s packages but is disabled by default
That shit had me rolling
LOL
Lmao
Some points I'd like to highlight:
- Screenshot apps don't work correctly in KDE 6 because KDE 6 is still in Beta (or Alpha?). I had the same problem without any display scaling.
- You couldn't uninstall "calculator" because the package name was "gnome-calculator", but the display name was "Calculator". You can think of it the Windows way, kinda: "Steam" is the display name you see in the start menu, but the actual program behind it is "steam.exe". Same thing, different way way of doing it.
- Your mouse cursor changed between apps because not all Linux apps are built the same. You're currently on KDE, but there are a bunch more desktops, like Cinnamon (the one you used with Linux Mint). Cinnamon is based on the GNOME desktop, and uses a GNOME engine behind the scenes to draw stuff on the screen. That engine also has its own (or uses some) theming engine, which only works for GNOME-based apps. KDE's and GNOME's theming engine(s) are practically incompatible with each other, which is why some apps might seem out of place and behave differently than "native KDE apps". In the case of the Calculator, the app just forced the GNOME theming onto your KDE desktop, so to speak. Not all GNOME apps force their themes onto KDE and the same goes vice versa. The Calculator app probably did because it was a Flatpak application, which is probably worth another exploration video of its own. But the point is that Flatpak apps come with the theme the developer (or Flatpak maintainer) wants the application to have. So if the Flatpak app is a GNOME-based one, it will force a GNOME theme onto it (libadwaita), if it's a KDE app, it will force a KDE theme onto it.
The whole theming thing is a discussion that has been going on for ages now. GNOME says "there's only one theme 'ecosystem' and that's libadwaita". KDE says "I don't care which app uses which theme, I'll just draw whatever the user set and whatever the application allows". Other desktops mainly go the KDE way, GNOME is kind of an outlier in this regard. What GNOME does makes sense if you take a step back and reiterate over your experience with the Calculator app, for example. The way the GNOME theme is forced means "all apps look and behave the same" (at least that's the goal). Compare that to Windows and its 10 different ways of theming. You have "legacy/classic" themes (Windows 95 through 2000), "Aero" themes (Windows Vista/7/8) and "UWP" themes (starting from Windows 10). The good thing is that Microsoft wants to innovate and use their new stuff. The bad thing is, they can't completely change the UI of Windows because that would basically drive all sysadmins of all companies in the industry insane. This is why Windows has like 100 themes built into it and every application looks different, but at the same time legacy applications like the Control Panel still have to remain to please the industry so to speak. Granted, the state Windows currently is in is worse than if they just never listened to anybody in the industry and forced UWP onto everything - but then again, nobody would update Windows (Servers) anymore and would eventually move away from it. GNOME does it much better in my opinion, in this regard. But GNOME doesn't do users any favors because Linux users want to customize their desktop, and GNOME limits this freedom a whole lot.
With Arch and KDE you've basically opened the door to basically the most freedom you can get with Linux as an ecosystem. That's a very good thing, but it can really feel weird to new users who don't understand the different desktops, theming engines/ecosystems, Flatpaks, and whatever else have you.
KDE Plasma 6.0 official has been out and running on my computer for months, and I upgraded to 6.1 a few days ago, and I had no issues whatsoever with the screen shot app! Many of the scaling issues had to do with Wayland and NVIDIA drivers, none of which KDE makes, and all that is also fixed!
Did you just wake up from a 6 month coma?
@@Bob-of-Zoid what?! I used Arch a couple weeks ago with KDE 6 (don't know if it was 6.0 or 6.1). And I had that issue with taking screenshots (at least with Wayland). Googled it up and lots of other people also had this issue. Not sure what you're talking about.
I also specifically said that it's NOT a display scaling issue.
@@Bob-of-Zoid also you're the perfect example of a toxic Linux community member.
@@Bob-of-Zoid also also he's running KDE 6.0, not 6.1 in this video. So your point about not having any issues taking screenshots with 6.1 is misleading and adds nothing to the discussion.
@@Bob-of-Zoid also also also according to the official KDE release schedule, 6.0.80 was "Alpha", 6.0.90 was "Beta" and 6.1.x is "Release". Meaning 6.1 is out of Alpha/Beta status and should not have any of the issues described in this video and/or my comment whatsoever in the first place. Making your comment irrelevant again and again.
Honestly i think you should keep this series going, i love the raw view of a newcomer to linux
I think it would be interesting to redo this exact video, but do it with someone that is experienced with linux right there to assist you as you're going through the same checklist
Generally you want to get KDE applications whenever possible, so Gwenview for image viewing, Okular for PDF, Spectacle for screenshot, …
Arch allows you to do a minimal install. Other KDE distros include all of these by default.
ngl, it's kinda cute to see the next generation find all the compositing effects like wobbly windows that have been a thing for as long as I can remember and at least as long as I've been using linux professionally(which is.. a long time.. It's like almost 2 decades and now I feel old)
I love Wobbly Windows. They're so silly and pointless but I can't help but love them
@@AstralPhnxThey aren’t pointless if they bring a smile to your face 😤😤🗣️🗣️ (I also love my wobbly windows)
Funnily enough, I had a practical use for Wobbly Windows back in the Compiz days: I set the system bell to wobble the focused window instead of beeping. (But I am biased, as someone who turns off all system sounds and prefers visual indicators.)
@@FydaTECH Nope, same here. I hate system sounds so much, same on my phone. The only notification sound there is when someone calls ;)
Truthbomb
keep it up with the linux content, we truly love it. maybe you will build gentoo next.
LFS or he's just a script kiddie!
have some mercy
@@Kevin-jb2pvLuckily he isnt
This fella is somehow a breath of fresh air for me. I've watched all the videos in their whole Linux saga, and they're all like half-an-hour long videos and yet.. I didn't skip one bit.. that's new.. How do you do this?! Excited for more :3
The rotating cube desktop switcher was the coolest thing in middle school in the early 2000's when it was first introduced.
Arch Linux with KDE Plasma is the ultimate Swiss army knife of computing! I have been using them exclusively on all of my computers for over a decade now, because so far just nothing compares or comes close.
You showed me nothing new, and yet I loved every minute of it! Your narration style, especilly your sense of humor and the sound effects are well woth watching. Oh, and you could have used EndeavourOS to install Arch with one of many desktops but via a great installer. It comes with a selection of basic apps, and once installed which is wicked quick, you have all of the harder work behind you the easy way.
One more thing: A lot of what you said was great about Linux is Plasma specific and in few if any other DE's, and why it's such a freaking great Desktop Environment.
The only thing Gnome is good for is kicking out of the flower bed, down the driveway, onto the street, and watching cars run it over!
You can now officially say I use arch btw, but next is gentoo and LFS
oh god. please dont make him do this
Then LFS
(with a tiling WM, to step it up a notch)
after lfs he makes his own completely from scratch (kernel and all)
@@personi6241 a more gentle approach would be Void Linux with Tiling WM
When the task is to explore settings quickly but your desktop environment is KDE: Impossible!
As a kde user who spent 4 hours to rice my pc just to discard everything and start again i can confirm
The reason why you kept getting "MANUAL INTERVENTION REQUIRED" notification is most likely because you never did a system wide update. I assume the problem specifically would be solved by package database refreshing that would happen durring such an update.
In simple terms your PC had an old reference to the AUR databases, meaning outdated, meaning "yay" was very confused when trying to call out to the out of date AUR repositories.
The command for arch based distros is "sudo pacman -Syu".
-S flag stands for "sync", it is the flag that actually allows you to grab, download, a package from AUR or any other repository or source. Not to be confused with lowercase -s flag which stands for "search". It can be used or example in "sudo pacman -Ss " to search for a package that contains a specific term in, for exmple, it's description.
-y flag is the one that ensures that you're up to date with actual repositories you are trying to download a package from"
-u flag is simply a system-wide update of all pacakages installed through pacman
NOTE: The exact same syntax applies for "yay" but do also note that "pacman" and "yay" are different tools that need to be updated separtly.
i hate doing this so much, i wish distros were managed by not clinically insane people
The AUR and the official arch repos are different things... Also yay is just a wrapper for pacman with added functionality of being able to install AUR packages seamlessly.
yes!
And the "manual intervention required" stuff is probably due to uninstalled dependencies, which is the problem of the AUR package.
yay -Syu will update both pacman packages and also check for AUR updates. Effectively removing the need to interact with pacman most of the time.
Nice video again!
Notes and tips (I'll probably be less useful this time because I don't use KDE, display scaling, or play that game you do):
1. **KDE Settings:** KDE's settings does give you the options to configure lots of stuff, but it will only work on KDE apps (that integrate the libraries and stuff that link it in to the KDE settings and other KDE system features). This is why you cannot rebind Firefox keys in the KDE settings menu--it isn't developed by KDE (so it isn't built to integrate with it).
Ultimately it depends on the program you are using how or if you can bind the shortcuts. Programs that support/are made for Linux are generally better in this regard because the community tends to care more about it. In general programs (if they can be set) will be setup through a program and/or a config file that you can edit to make it work how you want.
2. Yeah the middle click thing is because there are multiple clipboard selections. The normal clipboard one you access with copy and paste and one called primary selection. It can be nice sometimes and some programs can use it to automatically do things when you select text instead of needing to copy and paste stuff. Pretty niche though so not many people actually know about/use it.
3. The weird purple line under the task bar is probably a compositing artifact. I don't use it so don't know what exactly you might try to fix it but you can probably search or report it as a bug and someone can probably help you.
4. Steam was not there in pacman because it is in a different repository that is disabled by default called multilib (it mentions this on the Arch wiki page you were on). Instructions for enabling it can also be found there.
As a side note the multlib repository is basically just for 32bit versions of software and some programs like Wine and Steam that have stuff requiring/running them. I think it is disabled by default because there might be 32 and 64 bit versions of some software so they want to make it harder to accidentally install the 32 bit version when you are on a 64 bit computer (just a guess).
5. **Uninstalling and how pacman works**
I generally use -Rs to uninstall stuff.
With VLC it was failing because VLC is used (is a dependency for) something else on the system. Fortunately for many users pacman will (unless you really force things) not run transactions (i.e. installs or uninstalls) that will leave something on your system broken because they are missing a (known) required dependency. ** In your case the message was saying it can't remove VLC because 'VLC' is listed as a required dependency of phonon-qt6-vlc (or something didn't read it lol). It won't remove VLC because phonon-qt6-vlc is still installed and needs VLC to work.
To get VLC to uninstall, you should generally just list both the thing you are trying to uninstall and any of the things that it is saying it will break (the things that depend on it).** E.g. if you are trying to uninstall package a and it says you can't because a is a required dependency of package b, then just do `pacman -Rs a b` so they are removed in the same transaction. If you really know what you are doing there are ways to make it cascade uninstall all the things that depend on anything you tell it to uninstall, but this could easily mess things up badly if you try it on the wrong thing so it is generally safer to avoid it.
6. **Calculator not showing up--pacman continued**: the display name of a program--especially the generic one like Calculator, Web Browser, or File Manager (and sometimes even the name of an executable)--is not necessarily the same as the package name.
In your case I think it is likely kcalc or kalc (remember that there are lots of calculators in the repository and they all need to have unique names so they can't all be 'calculator').
**How to figure out a package name using pacman** You could figure it out in lots of ways and some times it may be hard especially with really big wierd pacakages, but most of the time you can figure it out by searching the installed applications. Just use `pacman -Qs ` or in your specific case `pacman -Qs calc` or something and it searches for programs with calc (case insensitive) in both the name or description and you would be able to see what the name of the calculator you have installed is.
Btw the mnemonic for that command is Q[uery installed packages)] s[earch]. While we are here -Qi (info) is another useful one that gives the detials of a specific package instead of searching. The i and s options work on the -S version too just searching in all the apps in the repositories instead of just the ones on your computer. You can always look up more options and stuff in the man page or on the Wiki.
7. **Making your life in the shell easy by using fish as your shell** the command line might be hard to learn and remember as you are getting started. I suggest you try installing fish and setting it as the shell run in your terminal (should be in the settings for the default one or can be set in a config file for alacritty.
For basic stuff it is really great because you get nice tab completions by default for most common programs that normally come with little descriptions of what they mean/do. So you can for instance type `pacman -` and then press tab and it will show you all the options (both the long and short versions) and what they do.
See their website (fishshell.com) for more info and a very good manual (which can also be accessed in the browser directly from the shell when you use the `help` command.
Also, I bet you would like the fish_config command which opens a special (locally hosted don't worry lol) web interface that lets you customize the prompt and other stuff very easily with a GUI.
It is really very nice and I highly recommend it. Most of the stuff that works in bash or zsh works in fish, but some things that have kinda odd syntax in those (because of compatibility). It is really just better in most ways for interactive use and scripts that you don't need to be able to run on any random computer.
8. tessdata is a thing for tesseract which is an OCR (optical character recognition) thing. Choosing a provider on that thing was just selecting what languages you want the OCR for. It is used by mupdf (and other things) to let you copy text from PDF's when they are just images (without the text data embedded as well).
9. When you look for applications to do basic tasks a nice source is the Arch Wiki (yes of course it is lol). wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications In your case with an image viewer, you would go to the multimedia category and into Image viewers, in the category of graphical ones (as opposed to terminal or frame buffer ones) and you would have a whole list of them with the package name, a short description, and links to the website if you wanna see what it looks like before installing it.
**I would generally recommend only using the AUR when you don't have any good options in the normal repos** because it is more of a hassle and as you saw can have mixed results if you are just trying all sorts of random stuff. Use it when you already know you want a specific package and it is not available in other ways.
Also you can use `-Ss` (in pacman or yay) to search for things like image viewers directly.
10. Btw you are missing many default KDE apps. A lot more things would have been possible out of the box if you installed the kde-applications group (pacman -S kde-applications). Note there are tons of apps for all sorts of stuff in here so if you don't want everything, you can just install specific ones or sub-groups like kde-utilities or kde-graphics.
11. Quick AUR tips: the -git versions are generally compiled on your machine directly from the current version on the repo. The bin ones are precompiled versions (normally what I would try first unless I have a reason to compile it) if it doesn't have -git or -bin it can be either.
The diff option shows changes between the current version you have installed and the version you are installing.
Again try the normal repos first.
12. AUR manual intervention: I don't have much time and can't really read the logs so I can't say super confidently, but the divinci resolve one has an error with the mv command not being able to access a file in the .cache dir maybe a permission problem or something. Also it could just be a broken package so you would definitely need to trouble shoot a bit to figure out what is going on. I don't think I have ever had that problem lol.
13. Also just preemptive tip, remember to update (pacman -Syu) often it will prevent lots of problems. (Note that AUR stuff needs to be updated seperately). I can't go into all the stuff about the AUR now but really try to only use it when necessary (at least until you are a bit more experienced) because it can make things more complicated easily.
Hope these are helpful.
Uuu nice, thanks for all the tips!
@@bogxd you can also see the dependency tree using the pactree command found in the pacman-contrib package like this:
pactree -r vlc
vlc
└─phonon-qt6-vlc
└─phonon-qt6
├─dolphin
│ └─dolphin-plugins
├─dragon
...
For vlc in particular you will see that it's a dependency for plasma-workspace, the kde shell, so you can't remove it at all while using kde.
This is an exceptionally useful comment, thanks for leaving it!
You are amazing.
watching this video was the most fun i've had for months. thanks for taking us along on your linux journey. it only gets better.
Arch? The final boss?
Gentoo wants to throw hands and LFS is staring menacingly from the distance
Gentoo is easier to be fair
It is like a JRPG, you THINK Arch is the final boss, but it has three more forms.
Nix, Gentoo and LFS lmao
@@uis246i think gentoo is harder since it requires compiling and using things like useflags and knowing some info for the compiler but i am also a arch user for like 3 years thats only tried gentoo twice. So idk
@@linuxramblingproductions8554 I am a gentoo user and think arch users are crazy masochists
@@twenty-fifth420NixOS is a distro that forces you to keep on learning. you cannot master it. nixpkgs is a labyrinth of spaghetti code.
btw, if you freshly install any linux, it's best practice to update it (same as on windows). on arch, this is
sudo pacman -Syu
while on mint it's
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
this is probably why you didn't "find the packages", because the information that these packages exist needs to be downloaded with that command
He probably didn't have multilib enabled
@@seezon6962Yeah, that's why he couldn't install steam in the first place
Getting used to do a quick read of the relevant arch wiki page is very helpful
@@seezon6962 It was literally written on that wiki page he had open. Arch requires reading - otherwise you'll break it very easily.
For me it's
sudo pacman -Syu --noconfirm ; flatpak update -y
If you wanted more KDE Apps, installing kde-applications installs the full suite of apps
Including basic stuff like screenshots, etc
There's kde-system-meta, kde-utilities-meta, etc; for different sets of kde apps too, right?
your pfp made me read it in obi-wan's voice and it fit really well
"I'm spending way too much time in these settings"
Perfectly describes KDE Plasma (in a good way).
Grid View _used_ to put the desktops in a dynamic grid in Plasma 5, but with Plasma 6 they merged it and overview and kinda left grid view out. Definitely one of the features I desperately want back in 6.
Seven minutes and 56 seconds into the video and my head is spinning... I use KDE since 1999 on and off, apart from the theme, font, disable effects and adjust pointer acceleration, do not change anything else. Some things here I didn't even know existed. Long term Mint user here currently testing Manjaro with Plasma 6. Great fun to watch!!
FYI for anyone looking to get into Arch with KDE Plasma like this, you can skip the rough install if that's not your thing by just installing EndeavourOS. If you use the BTRFS file system and install snapper, your system will be almost bulletproof.
I would certainly recommend using archinstall over endeavor
I've been using EndeavorOS for 6 months now and it's 100% worth it, used to run Arch raw before but there's like no upside in that for me, I still get to tweak and configure to my hearts contempt but it's way simpler to install haha
If you forget to use sudo you can always use the command "sudo !!". The "!" invokes your bash history of which you could specify a number such as "!42" and it will use the command at line 42 in your history. The second ! will use your last command run. Very useful and I find myself using quite regularly.
you can also install 'fuck', which intelligently corrects mistyped commands
@@paultapping9510 I though you would say something like
alias fuck='sudo'
alias please='sudo'
The reason your sensitivity changes based on the resolution you set is because mouse sensitivity is measured in dots per inch (I call it pixels per inch) so if you are at 800 dpi every inch you move your mouse your mouse cursor will move 800 pixels. That means if you have a lower resolution, the cursor will move a larger percentage of the screen if you move your mouse the same distance both times.
I have used KDE for several years and I still learned so much new features of this video
I love your commentary
keep up the good work
Arch Experience ❌
KDE Experience ✅
its mostly both
KDE is WORSE ....I kind of understand using arch, BUT kde .............who on earth wants that bloated rubbish?
@@jimw7916 bruh?
kde is the best Desktop envirnoment
its also got the best software suite
you wouldnt call it bloated unless you daily drive a twm
@@jimw7916 shut up kde is great i use it
@@jimw7916 me, i want that bloated rubbish, leave my wobbly windows and sparkly cursor alone :c
Steam now has built in game recording as of today with the latest client beta. And it works beautifully on Linux, even Steam Deck.
Can't wait for the Gentoo video
Gnome video*
@@bsfgpmedia No I think they mean Gentoo lol
I really enjoy your OS review content and have become addicted to it recently. trying to add the following techniques: 1. File transfer from PC to hard disk, hard disk to PC, and PC to mobile, 2. OS boot speed improvement, and 3. OS disk occupied space. Thank you!
This was hands down the best AD for KDE and Arch
33:30 Hope now you appreciate the Apply functionality 😆
layer 8 problem
"Amazed at how many things you can customize in linux"
True but also you chose the correct DE
In my opinion Gnome is better, but I definitely see why KDE rocks. I love KDE myself too but just prefer a priced Gnome for daily work! I love KDE's customizability but I feel Gnome is neater, more uniform, just as easilbly be customized. and easier to write GUIs for. I am open to anything the awesome folks developing KDE have to offer.
@@abinaash8453 I guess you could argue one is better than the other depending on the person/type of use? But an overall KDE is better imo. A lot of customization or no customization, both are usable. No custom, looks just like windows (kinda). Custom looks however you want it to look (kinda).
Gnome does not have bars for certain programs, and has theming and stuff not baked in (as far as I know or my understanding, mind you). Amongst other things. The workflow for me is not good and it's confusing for some reason.
But like I said, different strokes for different folks. (In my OC i was just messing)
@@LautaroQ2812 Gnome has extensions which allow you to customize your desktop. It does not have as much as kde, but it still has customization. There are extensions that allow you to install themes
@@abinaash8453 i didn't like Ubuntu with GNOME. Now i am on Mint with XFCE
21:15 you installed a calculator package that is meant for gnome
package managers are agnostic when it comes to software it doesnt care what desktop enviroment you use
so keep in mind you install stuff specific to KDE and not gnome or vice versa on gnome
a way to know which application is for what a general hint would be:
KDE is made on the Qte framework
Gnome is made on the Gtk framework
so pick Qte specific applications on kde, you can install GTK instead but as you saw you had dependancies issues installing mirage because you arent on gnome where most of those dependancies are on to top it off you get the kinds of visual inconsistencies like the calculator application
Love your vids, laughed so much. These are best system reviews videos you can find. Subbed and liked!
It is so fun to watch someone discover KDE. It's how I fell in love with linux myself
This is SO good information when developing a user experience. It is basically user testing on steroids. I assume that KDE doesn't have the resources to do this kind of testing (it doesn't feel like it, at least), so this is amazing material!
your video inspired me to install arch linux, and i thank you for that
good luck :0
As a long term Gnome user who jumped to WMs without trying KDE, now I see what's the hype is about. Currently at 17 mins marks of a 34min video and bro is still exploring KDE Settings. Great job KDE team.
isn't that a good thing tho? Being able to change stuff and play around in the settings?🤔
@@Raspredval1337 certainly. One of the reasons I shifted towards WMs.
@@Raspredval1337 Unless it was sarcasm, I thing he was saying it's agood thing.
@@laurii0512 🤷🤷🤷
@@Raspredval1337 Oh I was reading this as a positive note, that Plasma has that amount of configuration options. But that's because I like it myself.
GNOME however has a small advantage in simplicity. By having less features you have a quicker overview of everything. The issue that it has is that it still has to solve a couple of fundamental shortcomings in my opinion.
This is mostly about things like the unfriendliness of the custom keybindings configuration and the huge limitation that it still does not have proper fractional scaling, which is a real problem on high DPI displays.
Plasma does not have those issues.
You unironically did a better job at making Linux seem aproachable than every single Linux content creator i have ever watched (and i've seen them all, even the ones that are super friendly and patient...sadly they don't realize how much they know and how far above the casual noob it is).
A: Can you customize...
B: Yes!
this guy managed to understand how cube works in seconds while it took hours for brodie
It's called editing 😁
1. Probably incorrect.
2. That's people. Inconsistent.
3. But if it would be correct, still pretty funny.
He already had an idea what it was, that's why.
Brodie is just a massive troll ... and just plain stupid.
I love how you're so amazed by the desktop effects like wobbly windows etc. which were available all the way back in 2006/2007 via Compiz xDD
cube too... compiz fusion... nice memories..
Setting up the NVIDIA drivers was a pain in the ass though haha.
You know, I had forgotten about how many cool features Plasma has. I've been using it almost exclusively for 5 years.
About 8:10: The desktops are all in one line, because you can have multiple rows of virtual desktops in Plasma. In the settings for virtual desktops on the top right, you can set how many rows you want, so you can have one virtual desktop below/above another.
Great video, but please try and use official KDE applications, it hurts me. 😭 Also you can fix the Steam issue by enabling the Multilib repository. Many of the packages you installed can be found in normal repositories too.
kind of funny to a new user though... that this repo doesn't have a LOT of stuff he was trying to do
Bog is my favourite time of the day.
Bog is like desktop KDE environment. 🤿💡🍺🍺⏱🤿🏛
Bog is not love linux arch💀💀🏨🔨🏨🔨🔨🔨.
Bog is love KDE environment desktop ☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️
I agree
I don't know English that well, but I understand you better than others.
And your emotions.
You're a top.
I suggest you to try the tile window managers, more precisely hyprland. ))))
5:57 tip: if you can't quit an app using the quit button, send a KILL signal to it, terminates the app even when it's frozen
This is the best and full of fun Linux presentation I ever seen. You convinced me to even switch back to KDE from Sway
This got me really excited about the desktop environment. Only to remind me why I still use windows.
lowkey wanna give linux a try after those three videos, congrats sir
also, this vid got posted as i was watching the other two lol
Just don't touch buggy kde, for your own sake. Try pure gnome or something. Fedora have everything backed as it should be, for example.
You should! Probably not something like arch, as it can be a little unstable at times if you don't know what you are doing.
I recommend mint, but view a lot of the comments from the mint video for mistakes and solutions to those mistakes.
You can look up guides online but make sure you know what you are pasting in does. I used to do it to look up package names, since they are sometimes confusing.
From the day you start, I'd recommend looking up some NixOS guides (even if you dont end up using the system, you can use it in a virtual machine for a while, just like how Bog did for arch), since for me, that seems like the best thing. If something breaks, you can easily roll back. Everything is just a single config file, so you can move it between systems. You can choose between stable and unstable/fast packages. (like mint, slower but more stable, for nix this is 6 months, for mint i think it's every major release, or like arch, fast but more buggy sometimes.)
don't listen to this guy you can experiment and remember there are plenty of options
Don't listen to delancre, KDE is nice, just choose the X11 session, it's more stable
KDE is great and should probably be your first choice if you're coming from windows
Might want to make a note or something that this is about the experience of _using_ the OS and rather than that of Installing it. I was completely convinced this was a reupload for view harvesting at first, especially given both videos have the same length and very similar intros.
Glad you enjoyed KDE Plasma its come a long way
This video is a good metaphor for the Linux experience of everyone I know who has tried to use Linux: there's hours of fun to be had messing around with settings, but ultimately, nothing of substance actually gets done.
He changed it to the thumbnail he made in affinity lmao
Arch Linux is that Miniboss before the main boss. The true main boss is Gentoo.
LFS would like a word
@@bluein_ nah lfs is like the impossible super secret dlc boss you have to read a 50 page guide to even get to
Maybe Slackware, Gentoo at least has emerge to get most of the software you need.
I use KDE on a daily basis for months now and there is so much practical things that I just discovered in this video 😂
Bog, your humor of sense is awesome, you earned a subscriber ❤
Fun facts: Linux desktops had workspaces *long* before I ever saw them appear on Windows, including the silly workspace switching cube if you wanted it. I remember using and loving these since (2008?). Windows didn't get workspace/desktop switching as a default feature until Windows 10 if I'm not mistaken. Back in the late 00s there were a lot of features in basic Linux desktops that were genuinely impressive and innovative even besides the customizability.
I think your KDE Plasma installation is incomplete. But for a new user, you're doing really good (and good mistakes :D) and your videos and humor are great.
KDE Plasma default screenshot utility : spectacle
KDE Plasma default PDF viewer : okular
KDE Plasma default image viewer : Gwenview
Personal opinion : avoid AUR when you can, use it only if required.
For Gaming you have something like CachyOS which is an Archlinux easier to install and gaming oriented.
(I don't game on Linux, I'm a console gamer)
I agree with your AUR opinion but I would also say check out flathub before AUR, if the package isn't on flathub then check AUR
spectacle is crap people usually replace it with flameshot
@@alvin9124 it has become pretty nice lately. I recently changed back from flameshot
@@alvin9124 Ahah no, they dont.
@@alvin9124 spectacle is a perfect screenshot tool
flameshot is only for the rare situations where you need annotations
I am sure that 99% of this video's viewers are Linux users
sudo touch grass
Make that 98%!
I’m just a Windows user who watches Linux videos for fun (and maybe will switch in the future)
I don’t care to switch that much it’d just be impractical for me but these videos are somewhat fun to watch
that's the point no?
For some reason him calling PhotoPea "photopia" made me laugh out loud.
The changing cursor was probably due to a (bug) when opening GTK apps inside KDE Plasma.
Calculator and Flameshot are both GTK apps, IIRC
For the best experience, you'll want to use apps from the same UI toolkit, i.e. QT apps when using KDE and GTK apps while on gnome (and derivative desktop environments)
Someone needs to award you for the best Linux video of the year
This is a delight to watch lol
0:19 eat the pawn just under your knight and you should be fine
lol I knew someone would say something like this
But how can both bishop be on dark square?
Its m3 Kxd3; Qd4+; Ke2; Qd2+; Kf1; Rf4#
@@Artem1zzzz if a pawn crossed the whole field and chose to be promoted as a Bishop
@@Rignchen right that’s an option too
Basically KDE review, not Arch.
it smells the same to the windows users that ... interact mostly through a gui in the first place.
@@D3nchanter That's not the point I'm making though. It's entirely different if he ran KDE on something other than Arch.
love it bro! thanks
Already excited for gentoo series
19:25 If you didnt know you can have multiple panels. If you really wanted to you could fill up your entire desktop with task bars or have a different panel for different things like a widget bar. Really neat all the things you can do with KDE. IMO KDE is the best desktop environment.
We need the HYPRLAND experience next
Ooh yes, that is much more fun than installing Gentoo or LFS
the one with the nazi dev?
@@tauon_ Yea no fuck these hyprland losers
yes yes yes!! like this so he can see!
this is a great tiling window manager, bog
arch uses me btw
The window manager experience next?
Super well done video man. Just wish you didnt cut the video out so soon was really curious about what your favorite was. haha
I really liked your narrative style, it's very cute and funny
ummm so at 5:50 onwards u never showed ur IP address btw. Ur IP Address is nowhere to be seen at all so i dont know why u closed out of it so quickly. if its the hostname ur talking about about thats just ur main PC that your using for the Virtual Machine. Nowhere on any settings does it have an IP Address, if anything it would be the IP Address of the computer itself not ur actual location IP Address.
Ok so you beat the Arch challenge... NixOS next?
Kde in one line : "lets not go into that rabbit hole" 😂
12:15 "im spending way to long in these settings" ..... wellcome to KDE & KWin we hope you enjoy your stay it's good to have you with us even if it's just for the day.
For 8:50, A little correction, Windows 11 allows you to set DPI scaling of any value from 100% to 500% in Custom Scaling in System > Display.
You didn't need to install a separate image viewer and screenshot tool, KDE Plasma already has those.
yes but I think he installed plasma-desktop meta-package, which came with almost no additional apps preinstalled.... anyway he should update all the pavkages with pacman -Syu, and try to install plasma apps like spectacle for screenshots o gwenview as image viewer
@@shagof He a avoided software center at all costs, which is bad. It shows how the community represents to outsiders, so they think using gui solution is bad, degrading, or inferior.
@@JacksonNick-j6i being the "well ackshually", not recomending the gui is more because... there are many guis, so you can't really give someone good advice on how to do something if for example they are on discover and you only use gnome software, or whatever cinnamon uses, so in general giving terminal commands is more universal
What??? Then which version of kde i should get cuz i am planning to install linux as well @@shagof
@@JacksonNick-j6i Why is it bad?
Also their is a difference between flatpacks and what you get from pacman/aur.
Even without that, the command line is useful as well, why would it be bad for him to use it?
For screenshots, you just had to press Print Screen. Plasma already has a screenshot app. The reason your cursor is different is because the app you were running was a Gnome app, which has minor compatibility issues with the cursor
i dont think he has all kde apps preinstalled.
sudo pacman -S gwenview
The KDE Plasma experience
super useful tip that saves lots of time, if you do "sudo !!" it runs the last command entered as sudo
As a linux veteran watching this video didn't make me cringe its so funny. Absolute meme material, especially the editing.